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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=f2xce8LfFVVH3omF3ZvBuxJ5ANlcvDRh6Qgcu1Yr8v5xvKE X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------F0F213C2B1C5CDC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------DCAB23237C32F3C" ------------DCAB23237C32F3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Noto: nun la texto havas korektiguri e la citita iluminuro, qua, desfortun= oze, ne aparis che mea unesma mesajo; sen la iluminuro, la texto ne esas ko= mprenebla. Me dankus omna korektiguri linguala da vi. Me deziras filozofior= per Ido, kun plu granda flueso linguala, e tre konkrete dialogor per Ido k= un altra filozofi. La monologi filozofiala per Ido (o per altra helpoplanli= ngui) esas nula idealo mea. Do, bona (pasable bona, adminime) Ido ex mea la= tero e dialogo pri idei filozofiala estus la bazi de tala agado. La kamarad= o Rosto, de la Jurnalo Posta Mundi, od altra irga interesato en la kulturo = per Ido, darfas riproduktar ica texto. ---------- La estetiko de la eti= ko. Kordiala saluti. Yen esayo filozofiala pri la estetiko de la etiko, = quan irgu darfas kopiar senkoste e mem ne citante sua autoro. Ica esayo ko= mencos, plu kam per abstrakta e metafizikala konsideraji, per un okulala, g= rafika konsiderajo. Videz, lektero, la iluminuro quan me ipsa kreis por ic= a esayo. Che la iluminuro, se tu, desfortunoze, sufras akromatopsio*, tu n= ur vidos tri griza rektanguli identa. La akromatopsio*, en medicino, esas l= a blindeso por la kolori. Homo kun akromatopsio* vidas la kolori blanka, ni= gra e griza, ma ne la kolori blua, flava e reda (do, anke ne la kolori verd= a, purpura, oranjea, kastanea, e cetere, nam oli esas kombinuri inter bluo,= flavo e redo). Ma se tu, lektero, ne sufras akromatopsio*, tu vidos un gr= iza rektangulo sinistra, un centrala pikturo bunta ed altra pikturo bunta d= extra. Un flecho integra indikas la autentika pikturo bunta, la pikturo ce= ntrala, ed un flecho ruptita indikas la falsa pikturo bunta, la pikturo dex= tra. La pikturo autentika e centra quan me kreis esas un mandalo*, tipo de= pikturo simbolala tre uzata che la tantrismo*, la budismo, la hinduismo, l= a taoismo* ed altra skoli orientala pri filozofio. La mandalo* (o sua varia= nto plu simpla e skemoza, la yantro*) prizentas grafike grava idei filozofi= ala. La mandali*, nature, anke uzesas che la kristismo, la psikanalizo*, la= komunismo, la ekologismo* ed altra sistemi de penso filozofiala, religiala= , ciencala o politikala. Mea mandalo*, grafike, esas tre simpla, do reale = inter un mandalo* ed un yantro*. Se tu, lektero, vidas korekte la kolori da= mea mandalo* en skreno komputorala od en papero imprimita, tu observos nur= tri kolori: bluo meza, koloro intermeza ex verdo e flavo (limonea) e redo = meza. La kolori, hike, aplikesas pure e plane segun sua diversa arei, sen n= uanci intermeza e sen efekti de stofo, texuro o stili komplexa por plenigar= kun koloro un areo. Do, hike la kolori aplikesas segun la simpla stilo tip= a de la afishi, la vinyeti o la vitralii (vitrari piktata): poka kolori, in= tensa, plana e klare kontrastanta reciproke. Ma, do, quo esas la griza rek= tangulo sinistra, e pro quo un homo kun akromatopsio* nur observos griza re= ktanguli, sen formi interna? La tri kolori, yen, blua, limonea* e reda, ha= vas la sama grado de lumeso, la sama briluro*. Do, me aplikis filtro komput= orala por ke la versiono sinistra aparez quale en la olda filmi blankenigra= , sen autentika kolori, nur per blanko, nigro e gradi ex grizo. Tale, la tr= i gradi ex grizo aparas komplete o quaze komplete homogena, do ne distingeb= la reciproke. Ma, por un komputoro, la tri gradi ex grizo restas diferanta,= do teorie la kolori originala esas rapide rekuperebla per altra filtri kom= putorala. Yes, ya... se ni konocas la tri kolori originala e sua aparajo en= irga zono specifika de la pikturo. La vero esas ke tipe on uzas nur 256 (d= uacent e kinadek e sis) kolori fixita por imprimar afishi e ke, nature, la = tri kolori ex mea mandalo* esas kolori por afisho... ma, por ica grado meza= de lumeso, existas plu kam 30 (triadek) farbi kun la sama o quaze la sama = lumeso. Mem per la tri kolori autentika, se ni ne konocas sua loki original= a de aplikuro, ni riskas konfuzigar la loki ube plenigar kun kolori ex la v= ersiono griza... yen to quo eventas che la pikturo bunta dextra, ube la zon= i de aplikuro por la verdo limonea* e por la redo meza inversigesas. La ma= ndalo* originala reprezentas un anjelo maskula qua sustenas un polpo en sua= manui. Il vestizas nur per tuniko, e sur sua du ali aparas du kopiuri de l= a tipa simbolo taoista*, la yingyango* (un yingyango* sur la alo sinistra, = ed anke un yingyango* sur la alo dextra, ma ica yingyango* kun sua kolori i= nversigata ex la yingyango* sinistra). La korpo de la anjelo ed ilua ali ha= vas koloro limonea*; anke la ovalo* od elipso qua kontenas la vizajo de la = polpo havas koloro limonea*. La korpo e la detali vizajala de la polpo hava= s koloro reda. Anke havas reda koloron la haro de la anjelo, ilua detali vi= zajala e la strio qua markigas ilua korpo, ilua ali ed ilua tuniko. Che la = yingyango* sinistra, sua parto infra e sua cirkleto interna dextra havas ko= loro reda; inverse, che la yingyango* dextra, sua parto supera e sua cirkle= to interna sinistra havas koloro reda. La fundo de la pikturo, la tuniko de= la anjelo e la cetera detali de la du yingyangi* havas koloro blua. La se= nco ipsa de ica mandalo* komencos indikar a ni la estetiko de la etiko. La= anjelo esas parte reda ma precipue limonea*; la farbo o koloro limonea* ve= rda ex la naturo plena; anke la verdo intensa es la koloro santa de la Isla= mo. La anjelo esas pura e santa nam il dominacas sua pasioni reda. La polpo= , do, esas reda, dominacata per la anjelo. La polpo, tipe, esas animalo de = la maro, alegorie do de la psikismo maxim obskura e profunda. Ol esas anima= lo reda, forta, inteligenta ed amoroza, sexuale tre potenca. Anke la anjelo= esas reda, ma la redo (la pasiono) ne dominacas il. La fundo de la pikturo= esas blua, nam la bluo esas la koloro de la cielo; la koloro de la perfekt= eso, de la pleneso spiritala. Logike, anke la tenua farbo de ilua tuniko es= as blua. Do la anjelo esas karnala (reda), equilibrata (verdalimonea* o fla= valimonea*) e spiritala* (blua). La tri farbi o potenci de sua anmo esas en= harmonio. Tale, la anjelo ne luktas kun la polpo, qua, kontree, ridetas. L= a vizajo de la anjelo, reale, indikas profunda meditado, inter la cielo e l= a tero. La yingyangi*, hike, esas blureda*, kontrastante la mondo de la pas= ioni e la mondo de la perfekta gayeso tranquila. Ma ni observez ke la simbo= lo taoista* klasika, la yingyango*, sempre interplektas la yingo* (pasiva, = obskura) kun la yango* (aktiva, brila). La yango* sempre havas interne un p= unto, un cirkleto, de yingo*, e nature la yango* havas sempre un cirkleto d= e yingo*. Mem en ica yantromandalo* la kolori de la unesma yingyango* esas = inversa a la kolori de la duesma yingyango... ma la unueso, la harmonio de = la du principi inversa, kontinuesas. La vivo etike ne lumizata es griza, s= en la kolori de la spirito. Hike, do, la voyo de la etiko esas voyo kun est= etiko. On devas rekuperor la kolori, afero qua, segun ni ja vidis, ne esas = automata nek facila. On ne povas vidar la nuanci subtila de la mondo fenome= nala (mayao*) e de la mondo perfekta ultre la fenomeni (nirvano*, moksho*) = sen rekuperar la vidado de ica kolori (varno*). Ma la potenco de la anmo, e= la tradiciono bone komprenata (ne blinde obediata) permisas rikolorigar la= vivo, permisas ridonar etiko a la vivo. Yen tasko por heroo, por artisto, = por ne nur piktero ma vera piktisto, de sua anmo ipsa! ------------DCAB23237C32F3C Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable La estetiko de la etiko (texto kun korektiguri).

&nbs= p;      Noto: nun la texto havas korektiguri e la citita ilu= minuro, qua, desfortunoze, ne aparis che mea unesma mesajo; sen la iluminur= o, la texto ne esas komprenebla. Me dankus omna korektiguri linguala da vi.= Me deziras filozofior per Ido, kun plu granda flueso linguala, e tre konkr= ete dialogor per Ido kun altra filozofi. La monologi filozofiala per Ido (o= per altra helpoplanlingui) esas nula idealo mea. Do, bona (pasable bona, a= dminime) Ido ex mea latero e dialogo pri idei filozofiala estus la bazi de = tala agado. La kamarado Rosto, de la Jurnalo Posta Mundi, od altra irga int= eresato en la kulturo per Ido, darfas riproduktar ica texto.


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       La estetiko de la etiko.


       Kordiala saluti.

       Yen esayo filozofi= ala pri la estetiko de la etiko, quan irgu darfas kopiar senkoste e mem ne = citante sua autoro.

 =      Ica esayo komencos, plu kam per abstrakta e metafizika= la konsideraji, per un okulala, grafika konsiderajo.

       Videz, lektero, la il= uminuro quan me ipsa kreis por ica esayo.

       Che la iluminuro, se tu, desfort= unoze, sufras akromatopsio*, tu nur vidos tri griza rektanguli identa. La a= kromatopsio*, en medicino, esas la blindeso por la kolori. Homo kun akromat= opsio* vidas la kolori blanka, nigra e griza, ma ne la kolori blua, flava e= reda (do, anke ne la kolori verda, purpura, oranjea, kastanea, e cetere, n= am oli esas kombinuri inter bluo, flavo e redo).

       Ma se tu, lektero, ne suf= ras akromatopsio*, tu vidos un griza rektangulo sinistra, un centrala piktu= ro bunta ed altra pikturo bunta dextra.

       Un flecho integra indikas la auten= tika pikturo bunta, la pikturo centrala, ed un flecho ruptita indikas la fa= lsa pikturo bunta, la pikturo dextra.

       La pikturo autentika e centra quan m= e kreis esas un mandalo*, tipo de pikturo simbolala tre uzata che la tantri= smo*, la budismo, la hinduismo, la taoismo* ed altra skoli orientala pri fi= lozofio. La mandalo* (o sua varianto plu simpla e skemoza, la yantro*) priz= entas grafike grava idei filozofiala. La mandali*, nature, anke uzesas che = la kristismo, la psikanalizo*, la komunismo, la ekologismo* ed altra sistem= i de penso filozofiala, religiala, ciencala o politikala.

       Mea mandalo*, gr= afike, esas tre simpla, do reale inter un mandalo* ed un yantro*. Se tu, le= ktero, vidas korekte la kolori da mea mandalo* en skreno komputorala od en = papero imprimita, tu observos nur tri kolori: bluo meza, koloro intermeza e= x verdo e flavo (limonea) e redo meza. La kolori, hike, aplikesas pure e pl= ane segun sua diversa arei, sen nuanci intermeza e sen efekti de stofo, tex= uro o stili komplexa por plenigar kun koloro un areo. Do, hike la kolori ap= likesas segun la simpla stilo tipa de la afishi, la vinyeti o la vitralii (= vitrari piktata): poka kolori, intensa, plana e klare kontrastanta reciprok= e.

      &n= bsp;Ma, do, quo esas la griza rektangulo sinistra, e pro quo un homo kun ak= romatopsio* nur observos griza rektanguli, sen formi interna?

       La tri kolor= i, yen, blua, limonea* e reda, havas la sama grado de lumeso, la sama brilu= ro*. Do, me aplikis filtro komputorala por ke la versiono sinistra aparez q= uale en la olda filmi blankenigra, sen autentika kolori, nur per blanko, ni= gro e gradi ex grizo. Tale, la tri gradi ex grizo aparas komplete o quaze k= omplete homogena, do ne distingebla reciproke. Ma, por un komputoro, la tri= gradi ex grizo restas diferanta, do teorie la kolori originala esas rapide= rekuperebla per altra filtri komputorala. Yes, ya... se ni konocas la tri = kolori originala e sua aparajo en irga zono specifika de la pikturo. La ver= o esas ke tipe on uzas nur 256 (duacent e kinadek e sis) kolori fixita por = imprimar afishi e ke, nature, la tri kolori ex mea mandalo* esas kolori por= afisho... ma, por ica grado meza de lumeso, existas plu kam 30 (triadek) f= arbi kun la sama o quaze la sama lumeso. Mem per la tri kolori autentika, s= e ni ne konocas sua loki originala de aplikuro, ni riskas konfuzigar la lok= i ube plenigar kun kolori ex la versiono griza... yen to quo eventas che la= pikturo bunta dextra, ube la zoni de aplikuro por la verdo limonea* e por = la redo meza inversigesas.

=        La mandalo* originala reprezentas un anjelo mas= kula qua sustenas un polpo en sua manui. Il vestizas nur per tuniko, e sur = sua du ali aparas du kopiuri de la tipa simbolo taoista*, la yingyango* (un= yingyango* sur la alo sinistra, ed anke un yingyango* sur la alo dextra, m= a ica yingyango* kun sua kolori inversigata ex la yingyango* sinistra). La = korpo de la anjelo ed ilua ali havas koloro limonea*; anke la ovalo* od eli= pso qua kontenas la vizajo de la polpo havas koloro limonea*. La korpo e la= detali vizajala de la polpo havas koloro reda. Anke havas reda koloron la = haro de la anjelo, ilua detali vizajala e la strio qua markigas ilua korpo,= ilua ali ed ilua tuniko. Che la yingyango* sinistra, sua parto infra e sua= cirkleto interna dextra havas koloro reda; inverse, che la yingyango* dext= ra, sua parto supera e sua cirkleto interna sinistra havas koloro reda. La = fundo de la pikturo, la tuniko de la anjelo e la cetera detali de la du yin= gyangi* havas koloro blua.

=        La senco ipsa de ica mandalo* komencos indikar = a ni la estetiko de la etiko.

       La anjelo esas parte reda ma precipue limone= a*; la farbo o koloro limonea* verda ex la naturo plena; anke la verdo inte= nsa es la koloro santa de la Islamo. La anjelo esas pura e santa nam il dom= inacas sua pasioni reda. La polpo, do, esas reda, dominacata per la anjelo.= La polpo, tipe, esas animalo de la maro, alegorie do de la psikismo maxim = obskura e profunda. Ol esas animalo reda, forta, inteligenta ed amoroza, se= xuale tre potenca. Anke la anjelo esas reda, ma la redo (la pasiono) ne dom= inacas il. La fundo de la pikturo esas blua, nam la bluo esas la koloro de = la cielo; la koloro de la perfekteso, de la pleneso spiritala. Logike, anke= la tenua farbo de ilua tuniko esas blua. Do la anjelo esas karnala (reda),= equilibrata (verdalimonea* o flavalimonea*) e spiritala* (blua). La tri fa= rbi o potenci de sua anmo esas en harmonio. Tale, la anjelo ne luktas kun l= a polpo, qua, kontree, ridetas. La vizajo de la anjelo, reale, indikas prof= unda meditado, inter la cielo e la tero. La yingyangi*, hike, esas blureda*= , kontrastante la mondo de la pasioni e la mondo de la perfekta gayeso tran= quila. Ma ni observez ke la simbolo taoista* klasika, la yingyango*, sempre= interplektas la yingo* (pasiva, obskura) kun la yango* (aktiva, brila). La= yango* sempre havas interne un punto, un cirkleto, de yingo*, e nature la = yango* havas sempre un cirkleto de yingo*. Mem en ica yantromandalo* la kol= ori de la unesma yingyango* esas inversa a la kolori de la duesma yingyango= ... ma la unueso, la harmonio de la du principi inversa, kontinuesas.

       La v= ivo etike ne lumizata es griza, sen la kolori de la spirito. Hike, do, la v= oyo de la etiko esas voyo kun estetiko. On devas rekuperor la kolori, afero= qua, segun ni ja vidis, ne esas automata nek facila. On ne povas vidar la = nuanci subtila de la mondo fenomenala (mayao*) e de la mondo perfekta ultre= la fenomeni (nirvano*, moksho*) sen rekuperar la vidado de ica kolori (var= no*). Ma la potenco de la anmo, e la tradiciono bone komprenata (ne blinde = obediata) permisas rikolorigar la vivo, permisas ridonar etiko a la vivo. Y= en tasko por heroo, por artisto, por ne nur piktero ma vera piktisto, de su= a anmo ipsa!


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VETERO / Bela e sunoza vetero preske = printempal, cajorne, en Francilia. =C2=A0 KONCIZE =C2=A0 AFGANIA / POLICAN= O SUSPEKTESAS PRI LA MORTIGO DI DU USANI Policano di la servi pri informo= dil ministrerio por Enlanda Aferi=C2=A0esas la precipua suspektato pri la= mortigo dil militistal konsilanti Usana ocidita dum saturdio pasinta en K= abul. Ita pafado di qua la responsiveso revendikesas dal talibani, relatas = al cindrigo, pasinta-semane, di exempleri dil Korano, olqui konfiskesis ad= kaptiti dil Usana bazo militistal di Bagram, ed olqua efektigis kin dii d= e kontre-Usana sedicii en ita lando, tale produktante "29 mortinti ed apro= xime 200 vunditi" segun la autoritatozi. La Afganiana prezidanto, Hamid Ka= rzay, emisis hiere advoko ye kalmeso che-televizione. =C2=A0 Hamid Karzay= =C2=A0 GREKIA / INCENDIIGANTA MASHINO DESAMORCESIS EN LA SUBTERA TRENO DI= ATHINA La policani Greka anuncis, hiere, desamorcir mashino incendiiganta= mestieristal e kun programizita explozo-tempo en vagono dil subtera treno= di Athina di qua la arivo-loko esis l'aeroportuo. Ol deskovresis saturdie= vespere sub sidilo dal treno-duktisto, tegita en donaco-pako. La dicita m= ashino kompozesis per mekanismo horlojal, per baterii e 4 litri de gazolin= o. La atenti per incendiiganta mashini mestieristal esas frequa en Grekia = depos plura yari, kontre edifici e vehili publika, banki ed ambasaderii, m= a nulatempe la transporti publika vizesabis til nun. =C2=A0 EGIPTIA / "NGO= "-I KORAM LA JUDICIISTI La proceso di quaradeko de membri di NGO-i, inter= li esas 19 Usani, komencis hiere en Al-Qaira (Kairo) koram nur parto de l= a akuzati, ante ajornesar ye la 26ma di aprilo dal prezidanto dil korto. I= ta NGO-i akuzesas recevir pekuniizo nelegala de stranjera landi e pri enmi= xo en la politikal aferi Egiptiana. Ica afero produktas intensa tensi kun = Usa. =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-::: ---332380854-624975209-1330383334=:304499 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Lundie, ye la 27= ma di februaro 2012.
 
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ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil Fishi guvern= ata dal planeto Neptuno.
VETERO / Bela e s= unoza vetero preske printempal, cajorne, en Francilia.
 
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KONCIZE
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AFGANIA / POL= ICANO SUSPEKTESAS PRI LA MORTIGO DI DU USANI
Policano di la servi pri informo= dil ministrerio por Enlanda Aferi esas la precipua suspektato pri la= mortigo dil militistal konsilanti Usana ocidita dum saturdio pasinta en K= abul. Ita pafado di qua la responsiveso revendikesas dal talibani, relatas = al cindrigo, pasinta-semane, di exempleri dil Korano, olqui konfiskesis ad= kaptiti dil Usana bazo militistal di Bagram, ed olqua efektigis kin dii d= e kontre-Usana sedicii en ita lando, tale produktante "29 mortinti ed apro= xime 200 vunditi" segun la autoritatozi. La Afganiana prezidanto, Hamid Ka= rzay, emisis hiere advoko ye kalmeso che-televizione.
 
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GREKIA / INCENDIIGANTA MASHINO DESAMORCESIS EN LA SUB= TERA TRENO DI ATHINA
La policani Greka anuncis, hiere, desamorcir mashino inc= endiiganta mestieristal e kun programizita explozo-tempo en vagono dil sub= tera treno di Athina di qua la arivo-loko esis l'aeroportuo. Ol deskovresi= s saturdie vespere sub sidilo dal treno-duktisto, tegita en donaco-pako. L= a dicita mashino kompozesis per mekanismo horlojal, per baterii e 4 litri = de gazolino. La atenti per incendiiganta mashini mestieristal esas frequa = en Grekia depos plura yari, kontre edifici e vehili publika, banki ed amba= saderii, ma nulatempe la transporti publika vizesabis til nun.<= /div>
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EGIPTIA / "N= GO"-I KORAM LA JUDICIISTI
La proceso di quaradeko de membri di NGO-i, inter l= i esas 19 Usani, komencis hiere en Al-Qaira (Kairo) koram nur parto de la = akuzati, ante ajornesar ye la 26ma di aprilo dal prezidanto dil korto. Ita= NGO-i akuzesas recevir pekuniizo nelegala de stranjera landi e pri enmixo= en la politikal aferi Egiptiana. Ica afero produktas intensa tensi kun Us= a.
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Subject: Lingu Kamino X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=287459349; y=fXw8chBvdyNNeecwmffMbLIjHcG_TafRvrONVNnJuMOOofaW8nEM7Fg X-Yahoo-Profile: lenadi_moucina --8-6169739418-1342523330=:6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ofte, me voyajas en Hispania e me renkontras la =B0"Camino de Santiago" /ka= mino de santiago/ ube marchas multa pelerini quale pluri yardeki ante nun. = Semblas a me ke la pelerini bezonus linguo komuna. Se la chefi Katolika vol= us, hike li povus rilansar la Latina linguo, o lua moderna formo quale la L= atino sine flexioni. Nur por ludar, e sen volar nek kredar krear nova unive= rsala linguo por salvar la Mondo, me donas sube texto qua, me esperas, povu= s facor vi smilar. Lingu Kamino =AB On facar kom on voler. =BB Li =AB lin= gu kamino =BB esir li lingu de la kamino de Santyago de Kompostel, dondu le= s pelerin ambulir de tot la Europa. La principal kamino esar en Espanya e t= ambienosi en Frans. La lingu esar mixo de Espanyol e Franse. Li pelerinu po= vir parlablar kun otre pelerinu o les personu ke lokatir les kamara por les= pelerinu, o les ke vendir li komer. Li lingu no es mucho rigor, la verbo h= avar sola(mente) un formo, li infinitiv ke finir normal per =AB ir =BB, tam= bienosi on povir finar per =AB ar =BB o =AB er =BB si on voler : povir, pov= ar, pover es mismem koso. Les nomo finir normal per =AB u =BB, tambienosi = =AB o =BB, =AB a =BB, =AB i =BB, =AB e =BB, o konson kom on volir. Les verb= u povir esir li nomo de les kosa, on solament ponir li artikol avan la parl= abramo . Exemplo : komir, li komir ; dormir, li dormir ; kaminir, li kamini= r (ambular sur li kamino). Les adyektivu no nesesir verbu (simil Indonesian= ) : =ABli orancha matur =BB =3D =AB li orancha esir matura =BB. Les adverbu= no haver formu espesial, ma on podir yuntar li sufix =AB mente =BB ke fran= su e espanyol konosir, se on volir. Les artiklu definit esar : =AB li, =BB= por un koso, e =AB les =BB por plus kosu. On poder tambienosi ponir =AB s = =BB detra la parlabramo, ma cho no esar normal sistemo. Le artiklu nodefini= t eser numero =AB un =BB, =AB dos =BB =AB tres =BB o =AB des =BB kuende on = ne savar kuanto presisemente on havir kosu plus ke un. Les pronomu esir : m= e, tu, yel (yelo, yela, se on voler markar la sexo de hom/mulier e simil pu= r bestio), nu, yu, yeles (yelos, yelas). Kises, if on voler esar polita on= pover tambienosi servir =AB vuste =BB kuende on parlabar avekun persono ke= on ne bien koneser . On havar la letru vokal : a, e, i, o, u ; e la letru= b, d, f, g, h, k, l, m, n, p, r,s,t, v, x, y. Se on voler eskrivar =AB z = =BB, on podir, ma on parolir =AB s =BB o =AB z =BB esar egual. On havir plu= s li =AB ch =BB egual franse o espanyol. Ma on no havir =AB j =BB. Les paro= l ke eskrivir kun =AB j =BB franse o espanyol eskribir kun =AB ch =BB o pe= r =AB y =BB en lingu kamino. Me ne savar kom yu dicir plus tarde un parolo = o otra. Ex : =AB (n)orancha =BB klaro ! Ma =AB obyekto =BB o =AB obchekto = =BB ? Les regul gramatikal no esar tro komplex. On facar kom on volir. Sola= mente la ordinu esar SOV : yel ke fasar (subyekto), la verbu e la obyektu. = Ma diferent se on komprenir, cho esar parfekto. Li parolu demostrativ eser = =AB cho =BB, (cho e chola) o =AB la =BB ke on podir ponir poster li parolu.= Ex : =AB li kato la, esar negro =BB =3D =AB cho kato esar negro =BB. Li p= osediv parolu esir =AB de =BB : =AB li kaminu de Santyago =BB. Egal on hava= r =AB de =BB por li loku ke on venir, e =AB a =BB por li loku ke on iralir.= La pronomu =AB ke =BB podir servir por tuto : personu, kosu o frasu kuesti= onal. Les parlabramo esar de franse o espanyol, ma me ne savir li kuel ! L= a pelerinu ke servir de yel, truvar la bon parlabramo. Solamente atension l= es parlabramo ke no dicir egal kosu en cho dos lingu ! Ex : franse =AB gate= au =BB [gato] e espanyol =AB gato =BB [gato] >> me kredulir ke =AB patisel = =BB e =AB katu =BB povar esir bien. Simil on seleksionar =AB pur =BB pur la= =AB para =BB espanyol e =AB pour =BB franse, e =AB per =BB pur la =AB par = =BB franse e =AB por=BB espanyol, por bien komprentiendar . On povar tambie= nosi mixar les parlablar espanyol e franse en la mismem parlabramo de =AB l= ingu kamino =BB. On ne havar tempi pur les verbu. If on voler vrere parlab= rar de la pasato, on poner =AB ya =BB avan la verbo, simil if parlabrar p= ur futuro, esar mucho importanto, on poner =AB va =BB avan la verbo (simil= LFN).** Me ne saver en cho momento kom on decir mucho koso en Lingu Kamino= , perke cho esir solament ludo por Posta-Mundi. Ma me esar serten ke sur la= kamino, les personu ya parlablar komun lingu, mixo de franse, espanyol, en= glich e doitch dondu =AB chambro, kamara, bedrum, zimer =BB havar la misme= m signifir ke totmond komprentiender. Leonida KAMINU --8-6169739418-1342523330=:6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ofte, me voyajas en = Hispania e me renkontras la =B0"Camino de Santiago" /kamino de santiago/ ub= e marchas multa pelerini quale pluri yardeki ante nun. Semblas a me ke la p= elerini bezonus linguo komuna. Se la chefi Katolika volus, hike li povus ri= lansar la Latina linguo, o lua moderna formo quale la Latino sine flexioni.=
Nur por ludar, e sen vola= r nek kredar krear nova universala linguo por salvar la Mondo, me donas sub= e texto qua, me esperas, povus facor vi smilar.

Lingu Kamino
=AB On facar= kom on voler. =BB

Li =AB lingu kamino =BB esir li li= ngu de la kamino de Santyago de Kompostel, dondu les pelerin ambulir de tot= la Europa. La principal kamino esar en Espanya e tambienosi en Frans. La l= ingu esar mixo de Espanyol e Franse.
Li pelerinu povir parlablar kun otr= e pelerinu o les personu ke lokatir les kamara por les pelerinu, o les ke v= endir li komer.
Li lingu no es mucho rigor, la verbo havar sola(mente) u= n formo, li infinitiv ke finir normal per =AB ir =BB, tambienosi = on povir finar per =AB ar =BB o =AB er =BB si on voler&= nbsp;: povir, povar, pover es mismem koso. Les nomo finir normal per =AB&nb= sp;u =BB, tambienosi =AB o =BB, =AB a =BB, =AB&nb= sp;i =BB, =AB e =BB, o konson kom on volir.
Les verbu pov= ir esir li nomo de les kosa, on solament ponir li artikol avan la parlabram= o . Exemplo : komir, li komir ; dormir, li dormir ; kam= inir, li kaminir (ambular sur li kamino).
Les adyektivu no nesesir verbu=  (simil Indonesian) : =ABli orancha matur =BB =3D =AB l= i orancha esir matura =BB.
Les adverbu no haver formu espesial, ma= on podir yuntar li sufix =AB mente =BB ke fransu e espanyol kono= sir, se on volir.

Les artiklu definit esar : =AB li, = =BB por un koso, e =AB les =BB por plus kosu. On poder tambienosi= ponir =AB s =BB detra la parlabramo, ma cho no esar normal siste= mo. Le artiklu nodefinit eser numero =AB un =BB, =AB dos&nbs= p;=BB =AB tres =BB o =AB des =BB kuende on ne savar kua= nto presisemente on havir kosu plus ke un.
Les pronomu esir : me, t= u, yel (yelo, yela, se on voler markar la sexo de hom/mulier e simil pur b= estio), nu, yu, yeles (yelos, yelas). Kises, if on voler esar polita on pov= er tambienosi servir =AB vuste =BB kuende on parlabar avekun pers= ono ke on ne bien koneser .

On havar la letru vokal : a, e, i, o, u = ; e la letru b, d, f, g, h, k, l, m, n, p, r,s,t, v, x, y. Se on voler eskr= ivar =AB z =BB, on podir, ma on parolir =AB s =BB o =AB z =BB esar egual.On havir plus li =AB ch =BB egual franse o espanyol. Ma on no havir =AB j= =BB. Les parol ke eskrivir kun =AB j =BB franse o espanyol eskribir kun = =AB ch =BB o per =AB y =BB en lingu kamino. Me ne savar kom yu dicir plus t= arde un parolo o otra. Ex : =AB (n)orancha =BB klaro ! Ma =AB obyekto =BB o= =AB obchekto =BB ?
Les regul gramatikal no esar tro komplex. On facar k= om on volir. Solamente la ordinu esar SOV : yel ke fasar (subyekto), la ver= bu e la obyektu. Ma diferent se on komprenir, cho esar parfekto.
Li paro= lu demostrativ eser =AB cho =BB, (cho e chola) o =AB la =BB ke on podir pon= ir poster li parolu. Ex : =AB li kato la, esar negro =BB =3D =AB cho kato e= sar negro =BB.

Li posediv parolu esir =AB de =BB : = =AB li kaminu de Santyago =BB.
Egal on havar =AB de = =BB por li loku ke on venir, e =AB a =BB por li loku ke on iralir= .
La pronomu =AB ke =BB podir servir por tuto : personu, = kosu o frasu kuestional.

Les parlabramo esar de franse o espanyol, m= a me ne savir li kuel ! La pelerinu ke servir de yel, truvar la bon parlabr= amo. Solamente atension les parlabramo ke no dicir egal kosu en cho dos lin= gu ! Ex : franse =AB gateau =BB [gato] e espanyol =AB gato =BB [gato] >&= gt; me kredulir ke =AB patisel =BB e =AB katu =BB povar esir bien. Simil on= seleksionar =AB pur =BB pur la =AB para =BB espanyol e =AB pour =BB franse= , e =AB per =BB pur la =AB par =BB franse e =AB por=BB espanyol, por bien k= omprentiendar . On povar tambienosi mixar les parlablar espanyol e franse e= n la mismem parlabramo de =AB lingu kamino =BB.

On ne havar tempi pu= r les verbu. If on voler vrere parlabrar de la pasato, on poner =AB ya =BB = avan la verbo, simil if   parlabrar pur futuro,  esar mucho impor= tanto, on poner =AB va =BB avan la verbo (simil LFN).
**
Me ne saver en cho momento kom on decir mucho koso en Lingu K= amino, perke cho esir solament ludo por Posta-Mundi. Ma me esar serten ke s= ur la kamino, les personu ya parlablar komun lingu, mixo de franse, espanyo= l, englich e doitch dondu =AB chambro, kamara, bedrum, zimer =BB havar la = mismem signifir ke totmond komprentiender.

Leonida KAMINU

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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 50436 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2012 17:50:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m16.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2012 17:50:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng8-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.58) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2012 17:50:59 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.120] by ng8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2012 17:50:57 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by tg1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2012 17:50:57 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2012 17:50:57 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:50:54 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Lingu Kamino X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=QMxtqbQclbIHym-gEQzBr7aRsGIsbz_CW0C27wSQb600VGcJBByt7Mg X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Kar amiko: Mem se tu skribis pri Lingu Kamino kom advere nura joko por pos= ta_Mundi, e mem se, aparante, simpligita mixuro del idiomi Franca e Hispana= havus skarsa intereso (kande ni vizas lingual interkomuniko ye kontinenta= l e mondial nivelo), semblas a me ke tua projeto ed ideo esas tre interesiv= a, nam tu trovis tre konkreta realajo, en olqua semblas advere konvenanta e= d oportuna 'parlar' sorto di facila komuna helpo-linguo, certe maxim simpli= gita. Irga ek nia anciena e prestijoza LIA-sistemi esus valoroza ibe, ma me= sincere pensas, ke Lingu Kamino, same kam Bazal Populido, bezonus no plus = kam mil vorti general, ultre admaxime, ni dicez, cent plusa vorti por konk= retaji relatanta La Voyo di Santiago. Danko pro tua mesajo, e gratuli pr= o tua ideo e kreiveso. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mu= ndi@yahoogroups.com, "lenadi_moucina" skribis: Ofte,= me voyajas en Hispania e me renkontras la =B0"Camino de Santiago" /kamino = de santiago/ ube marchas multa pelerini quale pluri yardeki ante nun. Sembl= as a me ke la pelerini bezonus linguo komuna. Se la chefi Katolika volus, h= ike li povus rilansar la Latina linguo, o lua moderna formo quale la Latino= sine flexioni. Nur por ludar, e sen volar nek kredar krear nova universala= linguo por salvar la Mondo, me donas sube texto qua, me esperas, povus fac= or vi smilar. Lingu Kamino =AB On facar kom on voler. =BB Li =AB lingu = kamino =BB esir li lingu de la kamino de Santyago de Kompostel, dondu les p= elerin ambulir de tot la Europa. La principal kamino esar en Espanya e tamb= ienosi en Frans. La lingu esar mixo de Espanyol e Franse. Li pelerinu povir= parlablar kun otre pelerinu o les personu ke lokatir les kamara por les pe= lerinu, o les ke vendir li komer. Li lingu no es mucho rigor, la verbo hava= r sola(mente) un formo, li infinitiv ke finir normal per =AB ir =BB, tambie= nosi on povir finar per =AB ar =BB o =AB er =BB si on voler : povir, povar,= pover es mismem koso. Les nomo finir normal per =AB u =BB, tambienosi =AB= o =BB, =AB a =BB, =AB i =BB, =AB e =BB, o konson kom on volir. Les verbu p= ovir esir li nomo de les kosa, on solament ponir li artikol avan la parlabr= amo . Exemplo : komir, li komir ; dormir, li dormir ; kaminir, li kaminir (= ambular sur li kamino). Les adyektivu no nesesir verbu (simil Indonesian) := =ABli orancha matur =BB =3D =AB li orancha esir matura =BB. Les adverbu no= haver formu espesial, ma on podir yuntar li sufix =AB mente =BB ke fransu = e espanyol konosir, se on volir. Les artiklu definit esar : =AB li, =BB p= or un koso, e =AB les =BB por plus kosu. On poder tambienosi ponir =AB s = =BB detra la parlabramo, ma cho no esar normal sistemo. Le artiklu nodefini= t eser numero =AB un =BB, =AB dos =BB =AB tres =BB o =AB des =BB kuende on = ne savar kuanto presisemente on havir kosu plus ke un. Les pronomu esir : m= e, tu, yel (yelo, yela, se on voler markar la sexo de hom/mulier e simil pu= r bestio), nu, yu, yeles (yelos, yelas). Kises, if on voler esar polita on= pover tambienosi servir =AB vuste =BB kuende on parlabar avekun persono ke= on ne bien koneser . On havar la letru vokal : a, e, i, o, u ; e la letr= u b, d, f, g, h, k, l, m, n, p, r,s,t, v, x, y. Se on voler eskrivar =AB z = =BB, on podir, ma on parolir =AB s =BB o =AB z =BB esar egual. On havir plu= s li =AB ch =BB egual franse o espanyol. Ma on no havir =AB j =BB. Les paro= l ke eskrivir kun =AB j =BB franse o espanyol eskribir kun =AB ch =BB o pe= r =AB y =BB en lingu kamino. Me ne savar kom yu dicir plus tarde un parolo = o otra. Ex : =AB (n)orancha =BB klaro ! Ma =AB obyekto =BB o =AB obchekto = =BB ? Les regul gramatikal no esar tro komplex. On facar kom on volir. Sola= mente la ordinu esar SOV : yel ke fasar (subyekto), la verbu e la obyektu. = Ma diferent se on komprenir, cho esar parfekto. Li parolu demostrativ eser = =AB cho =BB, (cho e chola) o =AB la =BB ke on podir ponir poster li parolu.= Ex : =AB li kato la, esar negro =BB =3D =AB cho kato esar negro =BB. Li = posediv parolu esir =AB de =BB : =AB li kaminu de Santyago =BB. Egal on hav= ar =AB de =BB por li loku ke on venir, e =AB a =BB por li loku ke on iralir= . La pronomu =AB ke =BB podir servir por tuto : personu, kosu o frasu kuest= ional. Les parlabramo esar de franse o espanyol, ma me ne savir li kuel ! = La pelerinu ke servir de yel, truvar la bon parlabramo. Solamente atension = les parlabramo ke no dicir egal kosu en cho dos lingu ! Ex : franse =AB gat= eau =BB [gato] e espanyol =AB gato =BB [gato] >> me kredulir ke =AB patisel= =BB e =AB katu =BB povar esir bien. Simil on seleksionar =AB pur =BB pur l= a =AB para =BB espanyol e =AB pour =BB franse, e =AB per =BB pur la =AB par= =BB franse e =AB por=BB espanyol, por bien komprentiendar . On povar tambi= enosi mixar les parlablar espanyol e franse en la mismem parlabramo de =AB = lingu kamino =BB. On ne havar tempi pur les verbu. If on voler vrere parl= abrar de la pasato, on poner =AB ya =BB avan la verbo, simil if parlabrar= pur futuro, esar mucho importanto, on poner =AB va =BB avan la verbo (sim= il LFN).** Me ne saver en cho momento kom on decir mucho koso en Lingu Kami= no, perke cho esir solament ludo por Posta-Mundi. Ma me esar serten ke sur = la kamino, les personu ya parlablar komun lingu, mixo de franse, espanyol, = englich e doitch dondu =AB chambro, kamara, bedrum, zimer =BB havar la mis= mem signifir ke totmond komprentiender. Leonida KAMINU From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10008 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=xxFeU_JRuTNpN_lPtc_xuhiqkYv9Xh-QARYX-XpDtsUS2ho X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------C019917137C47696 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------12617E1BAF0E79F" ------------12617E1BAF0E79F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Noto: nun la texto havas nova korektiguri e la sama citita iluminuro= , Me dankas a la kamaradi Partaka, Sonoriuxo, e cetere, sua korektiguri lin= guala. Nun mea texto nur havas tri asteriski. Posible la texto esas ja pasa= ble... pasable bone linguistike por publikigor ol che la Jurnalo Posta Mund= i, o che altra jurnalo qua permisus uzar Ido. Ma nature, vi darfas rikorekt= igar mea texto sen mea permeso. Amike, Aleshandre Shavier Kasanova Domingo= . ---------- La estetiko de la etiko. Kordiala saluti. Yen esa= yo filozofiala pri la estetiko de la etiko, quan irgu darfas kopiar senkost= e e mem ne citante sua autoro. Ica esayo komencos, plu kam per abstrakta e= metafizikala konsideraji, per un okulala, grafika konsiderajo. Videz, lek= tero, la iluminuro quan me ipsa kreis por ica esayo. Che la iluminuro, se = tu, desfortunoze, sufras akromatopsio*, tu nur vidos tri griza rektanguli i= denta. La akromatopsio, en medicino, esas la blindeso por la kolori. Homo k= un akromatopsio vidas la kolori blanka, nigra e griza, ma ne la kolori blua= , flava e reda (do, anke ne la kolori verda, purpura, oranjea, kastanea, e = cetere, nam oli esas kombinuri inter bluo, flavo e redo). Ma se tu, lekter= o, ne sufras akromatopsio, tu vidos un griza rektangulo sinistra, un centra= la pikturo bunta ed altra pikturo bunta dextra. Un flecho integra indikas = la autentika pikturo bunta, la pikturo centrala, ed un flecho ruptita indik= as la falsa pikturo bunta, la pikturo dextra. La pikturo autentika e centr= a quan me kreis esas un mandala, tipo de pikturo simbolala tre uzata che la= tantrismo, la budismo, la hinduismo, la taoismo ed altra skoli orientala p= ri filozofio. La mandala (o sua varianto plu simpla e skemoza, la yantra) p= rizentas grafike grava idei filozofiala. La mandala-i, nature, anke uzesas = che la kristismo, la psikanalizo, la komunismo, la ekologismo ed altra sist= emi de penso filozofiala, religiala, ciencala o politikala. Mea mandala, g= rafike, esas tre simpla, do reale inter un mandala ed un yantra. Se tu, lek= tero, vidas korekte la kolori da mea mandala en skreno komputorala od en pa= pero imprimita, tu observos nur tri kolori: bluo meza, koloro intermeza ex = verdo e flavo (limonea) e redo meza. La kolori, hike, aplikesas pure e plan= e segun sua diversa arei, sen nuanci intermeza e sen efekti de stofo, texur= o o stili komplexa por plenigar kun koloro un areo. Do, hike la kolori apli= kesas segun la simpla stilo tipa de la afishi, la vinyeti o la vitralii (vi= trari piktata): poka kolori, intensa, plana e klare kontrastanta reciproke.= Ma, do, quo esas la griza rektangulo sinistra, e pro quo un homo kun akro= matopsio nur observos griza rektanguli, sen formi interna? La tri kolori, = yen, blua, limonea e reda, havas la sama grado de lumeso, la sama briluro. = Do, me aplikis filtro komputorala por ke la versiono sinistra aparez quale = en la olda filmi blankenigra, sen autentika kolori, nur per blanko, nigro e= gradi ex grizo. Tale, la tri gradi ex grizo aparas komplete o quaze komple= te homogena, do ne distingebla reciproke. Ma, por un komputoro, la tri grad= i ex grizo restas diferanta, do teorie la kolori originala esas rapide reku= perebla per altra filtri komputorala. Yes, ya... se ni konocas la tri kolor= i originala e sua aparajo en irga zono specifika de la pikturo. La vero esa= s ke tipe on uzas nur 256 (duacent e kinadek e sis) kolori fixita por impri= mar afishi e ke, nature, la tri kolori ex mea mandalo esas kolori por afish= o... ma, por ica grado meza de lumeso, existas plu kam 30 (triadek) farbi k= un la sama o quaze la sama lumeso. Mem per la tri kolori autentika, se ni n= e konocas sua loki originala de aplikuro, ni riskas konfuzigar la loki ube = plenigar kun kolori ex la versiono griza... yen to quo eventas che la piktu= ro bunta dextra, ube la zoni de aplikuro por la verdo limonea e por la redo= meza inversigesas. La mandala originala reprezentas un anjelo maskula qua= sustenas un polpo en sua manui. Il vestizas nur per tuniko, e sur sua du a= li aparas du kopiuri de la tipa simbolo taoista, la yingyango* o ying-yang = (un ying-yang sur la alo sinistra, ed anke un ying-yang sur la alo dextra, = ma ica ying-yang kun sua kolori inversigata ex la ying-yang sinistra). La k= orpo de la anjelo ed ilua ali havas koloro limonea; anke la ovalo* od elips= o qua kontenas la vizajo de la polpo havas koloro limonea. La korpo e la de= tali vizajala de la polpo havas koloro reda. Anke havas reda koloron la har= o de la anjelo, ilua detali vizajala e la strio qua markigas ilua korpo, il= ua ali ed ilua tuniko. Che la ying-yang sinistra, sua parto infra e sua cir= kleto interna dextra havas koloro reda; inverse, che la ying-yang dextra, s= ua parto supera e sua cirkleto interna sinistra havas koloro reda. La fundo= de la pikturo, la tuniko de la anjelo e la cetera detali de la du ying-yan= g havas koloro blua. La senco ipsa de ica mandala komencos indikar a ni la= estetiko de la etiko. La anjelo esas parte reda ma precipue limonea; la f= arbo o koloro limonea verda esas tipa ex la naturo plena; anke la verdo int= ensa es la koloro santa de la Islamo. La anjelo esas pura e santa nam il do= minacas sua pasioni reda. La polpo, do, esas reda, dominacata per la anjelo= . La polpo, tipe, esas animalo de la maro, alegorie do de la psikismo maxim= obskura e profunda. Ol esas animalo reda, forta, inteligenta ed amoroza, s= exuale tre potenca. Anke la anjelo esas reda, ma la redo (la pasiono) ne do= minacas il. La fundo de la pikturo esas blua, nam la bluo esas la koloro de= la cielo; la koloro de la perfekteso, de la pleneso spiritala. Logike, ank= e la tenua farbo de ilua tuniko esas blua. Do la anjelo esas karnala (reda)= , equilibrata (verdalimonea o flavalimonea) e spiritala (blua). La tri farb= i o potenci de ilua anmo esas en harmonio. Tale, la anjelo ne luktas kun la= polpo, qua, kontree, ridetas. La vizajo de la anjelo, reale, indikas profu= nda meditado, inter la cielo e la tero. La du ying-yang, hike, esas blu-red= a, kontrastante la mondo de la pasioni e la mondo de la perfekta gayeso tra= nquila. Ma ni observez ke la simbolo taoista klasika, la ying-yang, sempre = interplektas la ying (pasiva, obskura) kun la yang (aktiva, brila). La yang= sempre havas interne un punto, un cirkleto, de ying, e nature la yang hava= s sempre un cirkleto de ying. Mem en ica yantra-mandala la kolori de la une= sma ying-yang esas inversa a la kolori de la duesma ying-yang... ma la unue= so, la harmonio de la du principi inversa, kontinuesas. La vivo etike ne l= umizata es griza, sen la kolori de la spirito. Hike, do, la voyo de la etik= o esas voyo kun estetiko. On devas rekuperor la kolori, afero qua, segun ni= ja vidis, ne esas automata nek facila. On ne povas vidar la nuanci subtila= de la mondo fenomenala (maya) e de la mondo perfekta ultre la fenomeni (ni= rvana, moksha) sen rekuperar la vidado de ica kolori (varna). Ma la potenco= de la anmo, e la tradiciono bone komprenata (ne blinde obediata) permisas = rikolorigar la vivo, permisas ridonar etiko a la vivo. Yen tasko por heroo,= por artisto, por ne nur piktero ma vera piktisto, de sua anmo ipsa! Amike= , Aleshandre Shavier Kasanova Domingo, posto elektronikala trigrupo@yahoo.e= s (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ------------12617E1BAF0E79F Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable La estetiko de la etiko (texto kun nova korektiguri). <= /head>

      =  Latinovik


       Hol= a, Rosto.

    &= nbsp;  Latinovik ne es mito. Latinovik ne esas Latinove, e Latinovik e= xistas, adminime ol existis.

       Latinovik kreesis da Shelly Bakken. Hodie, d= esfortunoze, elu ne parolas publike pri Latinovik, ed elua pagini interneta= la desaparis.

  &nbs= p;    Ma me konservas ica texto per Latinovik che mea disko kompu= torala.


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       Shell Shokked Ial=

      &nb= sp;s h e l l s h o k k e d @ y a h o o . c o m

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        Hok artikul no es i= n angles! Hok artikul es sur interlinguistik, sur la interlingu? Vu kompren= det hok fras, no? La interlingu, la lingu mundial, alor usabil eset la angl= es, sed in kontrast ad la totalitad de pagins in angles hok eset skriptet i= n "Latinovik" (un lingu inventet per me). Sik vu eset un Interlinguist vu k= omprendet hok skript sur Interlinguistik Histori.

       La reserk per un lingu = internazional komun poteser sequet de nov from inizi de la period modern. L= a nozion de obtener un tal lingu de la elements komun ad la lingus nazional= aparet vers la fin de la dekioktesim et presk dekinovesim sekul. De quest = inizi es veniet la development gradual de qual ram de la linguistik kompara= tiv que es donet la nomin de la Interlinguistik. La homins de mult nazional= ita havet partezipet ad la relativ realizment de su maturitad.

<= p class=3Drvps2>        La prim pe= r resolver un sistem komplet de auxiliari-lingu baset sur elements komun in= la lingus nazional eset un hispan, Pirro, de qui Universalglot eset publik= et in 1868. Signifikant que la lingus kom la franzes, angles, hispan, germa= n, Italian, etc. havet in komun un fund adsik extensive de ideas et kredenz= , de forms lingual teknologik et sientifik, que un pot apeler lo kom varian= z de la simil standard. De la idea ad la implementazion vari projects inter= linguistik havet diferent suxes.

       Volap=FCk, la labor de un prester german= mult-lingual, Johann Martin Schleyer, que aparet in 1880, havet uset la id= ea in un sens limitet, disegnant pesant sur la angles. La angles eset la li= ngu perfekt kom bas de reserk pro Schleyer: Angles es un lingu mixet de rad= ik germanik et romanik; la vokabulari internazional es un obvios part de la= lingu angles. Volap=FCk in un sens es kom un angles evoluzionet in fonetik= et gramatik forms. Mult adherents a Volap=FCk formet mult konferenz et reu= nions. Quest sistem linguistik havet un dekad de popularitad extraordinari = que havet justifiket la instituzion de un Kadem Volap=FCk (akademi de volap= uek).

     = ;  La esperanto, ank la kreazion de un homin mult-lingual, la Dr. Ludw= ig Lazarus Zamenhof de la Polonia, eset publiket in 1887 et havet realizet = un bon-nomin larg per self. In 1894, la Dr. Zamenhof havet proposet un espe= ranto reformet in respons ad la request pro un gramatik simplifiket et un v= okabulari plu kompletment internazional. Sed su propons no eset adoptet.

       = In 1907, tre franzes, Louis Leau, Louis Couturat et Louis de Beaufront, ese= t guidet de un delegazion que havet proponset ankor determinet reform in es= peranto. La resultet eset un skism in la moviment de la esperanto kon la pr= omulgazion de un altru sistem denominet Ido.

       La sistem original de la Dr.= Zamenhof eset remanet la fundamento de tot le publikazions et organizazion= s ofizial de la esperanto, de qui zi eset mult in la mund integer. Ido un a= ltru eset uset kon suxes in multe publikazions.

       La esperanto II, un siste= m proponset de Ren=E9 de Saussure de la Svizer, que havet miret ad remover = determinet karateristiks de esperanto mentru mantenet la relativ struktur f= undamental, no eset uset sed in qualkun mesur grande.

       In la mentru-temp= or un austriak, Julius Lott et un Chilen, Alberto Liptay, ulteriorment have= t expreset la idea que "la lingu internazional no devet eser inventet. Lo e= xist. Un dev soltant rekolier tot la relativ parols et regular lo in la ord= in." Quand Waldemar Rosenberger, un Russo, havet presuponset la direxion de= la akademi deklinant de Volap=FCk, havet maket de lo un grup energik de ex= periment kon la inizi de la Liptay. La resultet, in 1902, eset konozet kom = "Idiom Neutral". Un kontemporan de Rosenberger, basant la su labor per iniz= i, eset Dr. H. Molenaar de la Germania. havet kontinuet ad substener la su = sistem kon la pseudonomin de "Unial".

       In 1910, la "Akademi de Idiom Neutr= al" (previosment Volap=FCk), sub la direxion de un matematik professor ital= ian, Giuseppe Peano, eset transformet in la "Academia pro Interlingua", un = sozietad per reserk in interlinguistiko. La plu grand part de la relativ pu= blikazion eset sub form de la interlingua konozet kom la Latino sine Flexio= ne, sed la relativ members eset liber ad experimenter kon et maker, altru p= roponset lingus. Un member, Aldo Lavagnini, un italian in la Mexiko, havet = promovet la su propri sistem kon la pseudonomin de Mondi-Lingua. Le relativ= sedi eset ad Torino, Italia. De post la sekund guer mundial eset reorganiz= et in la Nederland.

 = ;      "Occidental", suxesivment ank denominet "Interlingue"= , eset publiket de un estonian, Edgar von Wahl, in 1925. Von Wahl (plu tard= chanjet ad "De Wahl") havet dediket mult atenzion ad la problem de kombina= zion de la naturalitad kon la regularitad in la models derivativ de su ling= u. Un potet trovet mult lingu-usetors durant la tot Europa avant la sekund = guer mundial. Lo havet vari periodiks publiket regularment in tal lingu. La= sedi de la Interlingue-Union eset in Svizer.

<= span class=3Drvts27>        In 1925, Joseph Weisbart, a= nk un german, havet kominiziet ad promover su "Medial". Otto Jespersen, la = linguist internazionalment konozet de la Danimark, havet produktet un siste= m proper denominet "Novial".

       Durant la quart paset de un experiment de se= kul in interlinguistiko eset in augment. La sistems de post publiket eset "= Interglossa" de Lancelot Hogben de la Grand Bretan, "Internasional" de Paul= Mitrovich de la Yugoslavia, "Mondial" da Helge Heimer de la Svedia, "Neola= tino" de Andr=E9 Schild de la Svizer, "International" de Campos Lima de la = Portugal et "Ling" de Anders Olsen de la Svedia. Mult altru produkts indivi= dual eset in la forma de la manuskripts.

       La Dr. Frederick Gardner Cottrel= l del Konsil de Reserk Internazional havet intereset ad la Sr. et la Fr. Da= ve Hennen Morris de Nov York ad la idea de generazion de un korp que kontin= uer la studi kominiziet de la vari project de lingu internazional. La Sr. e= t la Fr. Morris havet eset longment aktiv in la organizazions preokupet del= meliorment de la stat de la sozietad human ed havet videt imediatment la i= mportanz de un lingu internazional kom un del mediums per develop la Komuni= tad internazional qual havet seminet alor un speranz posibil. Fr. Alice Van= derbilt Morris, in 1924, iniziet et substenet la asoziazion auxliari intern= azional de lingu (I.A.L.A. in angles) usk su mort. La Fr. Morris havet eset= ank un member de la Academia pro Interlingua.

=        La labor de I.A.L.A. eset = isolazion et kodifikazion de la vokabulari international trovet kom element= s komun in la lingus europan modern. Al iniziet del sekund guer mundial la = labor de la Asoziazion movet de Liverpool, Grand Bretan, ad Nov York, U.S.A= . In 1951 la Asoziazion publiket la Dixionari Interlingua-Angles.

       La dema= nd diskutibil que apart la vokabulari et la gramatik havet kauset adsik gra= nd un varietad de sistems de auxiliari-lingu. Lor multiplizitad havet speze= tet la moviment per qual un lingu de mundo ad que develop in la punkt de ko= munikazion modern. La funzion positiv de la situazion dev eser solezitet, t= otvia. Subtot la partikulari eset diskutibil, la sistem plu-numeros havet m= ult in komun. Los poteser konsideret kom la variants de un lingu internazio= nal esenzial que eset latent in la lingus vivent. In tempor modern la lingu= angles servet kom un lingu internazional. La problem pratik plu urgent in = la kamp de la interlinguistik eset developer axion de bas de la material de= lingu que tot la interlinguists pot axept kom autentik. La dixionaris, vok= abularis, et ank altru lists-de-parols ofer tal material autentik pro inter= linguists in nor tempor. Sed la preferenz personal pro un projekt interling= uistik vers un altru obstruktet la progres. Et la lingu angles regnet supre= m.

      &= nbsp;In total, un pot dixer que la unitad de la nazions europan, et per ext= ension la nazions de la Amerikas, corespondet in grand mesur ad un unitad l= inguistik. Sed la realitad de que un Interlingu pot meliorer la situazion m= undial es dubitabil. Alor la unik soluzion usabil, usk un Interlingu eset e= stablet, eset aprender vari lingus nazional, aut solment la angles. La dema= nd pro un lingu internazional eset realitad, qual lingu servet la nesesitad= eset a vider.  

&nb= sp;      Hok artikul eset skriptet in "Latinovik" (un lingu = inventet per Shelly Bakken)


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      &nb= sp;Amike, Aleshandre Shavier Kasanova Domimgo, posto elektronikala trigrupo= @ yahoo.es (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).


      &= nbsp;----- Mesajo originala -----


  &nb= sp;    Yo nun okazionale renkontrav mesaje de posta_Mundi #922, d= a Alexandre:

   = ;    http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi= /message/922


=

       "Lista po= sta_Mundi


=

       Iste list= a es por usa tot lingua helpante o auxiliante preferat de cada membro, com = Adjuvilo, Esperanto, Fasile, Lingua Franca Nova, Ikuso, Interlingua, Volap= =FCk, Intal, Mondlango, Ido, Occidental-Interlingue, Neo Patwa, Medilingua,= Europanto, Latinovik, Usik, Ro, Novial, etcetera. Altre listas de auxiling= uistica solmen permesa l'uso de un auxilingua concret, por isto le lista po= sta_Mundi es un solution de conviventia e de dialogo inter le diverse auxil= inguas. Solmen le linguas territorial com English, Espa=F1ol, Fran=E7ais, D= eutsch, Afrikaans, Bahasa Indonesia, Quechua, Swahili, etcetera, resta excl= uat de nose lista. Iste mesage de presentation was escribat in un mixage ne= utral, facilmen comprenable, de diverse linguas helpante o auxiliante plani= ficat. Bonveno, nov membro!".


    &n= bsp;  Ya, isto es tre simila a alko kuale Komunikando o Sibelingua, es= ke no?

    &nbs= p;  Anke Alexandre pova, kande vole.

       Yo metev it anke ad hike:

       http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi:Pri


       Rosto


------------2C142D1B75D47C-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10181 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 8904 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2012 04:34:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Mar 2012 04:34:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng9-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.180) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Mar 2012 04:34:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.177] by ng9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2012 04:34:41 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by tg2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2012 04:34:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.155] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2012 04:34:41 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 04:34:39 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1164580683.20120320235611@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Latinovik (olim: Komunikando e Sibelingua). X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=sxxFXrOuYijPM4XFj9xddL4DGAvXJUtpqhyyZQtd0kx4VgWRmLhlsfj87R2e X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Danko, kara Alexandre. Anke yo no trovav nun alkel tracies de Latinove in i= nternet. Tamen li texte klare demonstra, ke tal projekte existev. Yo pensa,= ke isto es un anciena projekte, aproximante samtempa a INTAL. Yen importa= nta paroles de Shelly Bakken: "...la sistem plu-numeros havet mult in komu= n. Los poteser konsideret kom la variants de un lingu internazional esenzia= l que eset latent in la lingus vivent... La dixionaris, vokabularis, et ank= altru lists-de-parols ofer tal material autentik pro interlinguists in nor= tempor. Sed la preferenz personal pro un projekt interlinguistik vers un a= ltru obstruktet la progres." Yen ke pos ista paroles un freneza idea veniv= a me: Forsan esud interesanta esteblisar un plus forum, kel esud in alkual= sense anti-posta_Mundi, ma de altra latere komplimentara a posta_Mundi. L= i regules es tala: che anti-posta_Mundi on anke darfa komunikar NUR per art= ificiala auxilara linguas. Ma no es permisata e es tote exkluzata irga rekl= amo e mem menciono de irga artificiala auxilara linguas. On no deve mencion= ar Esperanto nek Ido nek Ikuso nek Sibelingua nek Latinovik nek irgo de tal= specie. Anke ligiles interneti darfa eser ad irgube, a irga nacionala ret-= situes, exceptante nur tala, ibe on instrukta o reklama pri irga konkreta a= rtificiala linguas. Semble tal projekte ankor no existev? Rosto. --- In= posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo scriv: > > Latinovik > > Hola, Rosto. > Latinovik ne es mito. Latin= ovik ne esas Latinove, e Latinovik existas, adminime ol existis. > Latinov= ik kreesis da Shelly Bakken. Hodie, desfortunoze, elu ne parolas publike pr= i Latinovik, ed elua pagini internetala desaparis. > Ma me konservas ica t= exto per Latinovik che mea disko komputorala. > > ---------- > > Shell = Shokked Ial > s h e l l s h o k k e d @ y a h o o . c o m > > Hok= artikul no es in angles! Hok artikul es sur interlinguistik, sur la interl= ingu? Vu komprendet hok fras, no? La interlingu, la lingu mundial, alor usa= bil eset la angles, sed in kontrast ad la totalitad de pagins in angles hok= eset skriptet in "Latinovik" (un lingu inventet per me). Sik vu eset un In= terlinguist vu komprendet hok skript sur Interlinguistik Histori. > La res= erk per un lingu internazional komun poteser sequet de nov from inizi de la= period modern. La nozion de obtener un tal lingu de la elements komun ad l= a lingus nazional aparet vers la fin de la dekioktesim et presk dekinovesim= sekul. De quest inizi es veniet la development gradual de qual ram de la l= inguistik komparativ que es donet la nomin de la Interlinguistik. La homins= de mult nazionalita havet partezipet ad la relativ realizment de su maturi= tad. > La prim per resolver un sistem komplet de auxiliari-lingu baset sur= elements komun in la lingus nazional eset un hispan, Pirro, de qui Univers= alglot eset publiket in 1868. Signifikant que la lingus kom la franzes, ang= les, hispan, german, Italian, etc. havet in komun un fund adsik extensive d= e ideas et kredenz, de forms lingual teknologik et sientifik, que un pot ap= eler lo kom varianz de la simil standard. De la idea ad la implementazion v= ari projects interlinguistik havet diferent suxes. > Volap=FCk, la labor d= e un prester german mult-lingual, Johann Martin Schleyer, que aparet in 188= 0, havet uset la idea in un sens limitet, disegnant pesant sur la angles. L= a angles eset la lingu perfekt kom bas de reserk pro Schleyer: Angles es un= lingu mixet de radik germanik et romanik; la vokabulari internazional es u= n obvios part de la lingu angles. Volap=FCk in un sens es kom un angles evo= luzionet in fonetik et gramatik forms. Mult adherents a Volap=FCk formet mu= lt konferenz et reunions. Quest sistem linguistik havet un dekad de popular= itad extraordinari que havet justifiket la instituzion de un Kadem Volap=FC= k (akademi de volapuek). > La esperanto, ank la kreazion de un homin mult-= lingual, la Dr. Ludwig Lazarus Zamenhof de la Polonia, eset publiket in 188= 7 et havet realizet un bon-nomin larg per self. In 1894, la Dr. Zamenhof ha= vet proposet un esperanto reformet in respons ad la request pro un gramatik= simplifiket et un vokabulari plu kompletment internazional. Sed su propons= no eset adoptet. > In 1907, tre franzes, Louis Leau, Louis Couturat et Lo= uis de Beaufront, eset guidet de un delegazion que havet proponset ankor de= terminet reform in esperanto. La resultet eset un skism in la moviment de l= a esperanto kon la promulgazion de un altru sistem denominet Ido. > La sis= tem original de la Dr. Zamenhof eset remanet la fundamento de tot le publik= azions et organizazions ofizial de la esperanto, de qui zi eset mult in la = mund integer. Ido un altru eset uset kon suxes in multe publikazions. > La= esperanto II, un sistem proponset de Ren=E9 de Saussure de la Svizer, que = havet miret ad remover determinet karateristiks de esperanto mentru mantene= t la relativ struktur fundamental, no eset uset sed in qualkun mesur grande= . > In la mentru-tempor un austriak, Julius Lott et un Chilen, Alberto Lip= tay, ulteriorment havet expreset la idea que "la lingu internazional no dev= et eser inventet. Lo exist. Un dev soltant rekolier tot la relativ parols e= t regular lo in la ordin." Quand Waldemar Rosenberger, un Russo, havet pres= uponset la direxion de la akademi deklinant de Volap=FCk, havet maket de lo= un grup energik de experiment kon la inizi de la Liptay. La resultet, in 1= 902, eset konozet kom "Idiom Neutral". Un kontemporan de Rosenberger, basan= t la su labor per inizi, eset Dr. H. Molenaar de la Germania. havet kontinu= et ad substener la su sistem kon la pseudonomin de "Unial". > In 1910, la = "Akademi de Idiom Neutral" (previosment Volap=FCk), sub la direxion de un m= atematik professor italian, Giuseppe Peano, eset transformet in la "Academi= a pro Interlingua", un sozietad per reserk in interlinguistiko. La plu gran= d part de la relativ publikazion eset sub form de la interlingua konozet ko= m la Latino sine Flexione, sed la relativ members eset liber ad experimente= r kon et maker, altru proponset lingus. Un member, Aldo Lavagnini, un itali= an in la Mexiko, havet promovet la su propri sistem kon la pseudonomin de M= ondi-Lingua. Le relativ sedi eset ad Torino, Italia. De post la sekund guer= mundial eset reorganizet in la Nederland. > "Occidental", suxesivment ank= denominet "Interlingue", eset publiket de un estonian, Edgar von Wahl, in = 1925. Von Wahl (plu tard chanjet ad "De Wahl") havet dediket mult atenzion = ad la problem de kombinazion de la naturalitad kon la regularitad in la mod= els derivativ de su lingu. Un potet trovet mult lingu-usetors durant la tot= Europa avant la sekund guer mundial. Lo havet vari periodiks publiket regu= larment in tal lingu. La sedi de la Interlingue-Union eset in Svizer. > In= 1925, Joseph Weisbart, ank un german, havet kominiziet ad promover su "Med= ial". Otto Jespersen, la linguist internazionalment konozet de la Danimark,= havet produktet un sistem proper denominet "Novial". > Durant la quart pa= set de un experiment de sekul in interlinguistiko eset in augment. La siste= ms de post publiket eset "Interglossa" de Lancelot Hogben de la Grand Breta= n, "Internasional" de Paul Mitrovich de la Yugoslavia, "Mondial" da Helge H= eimer de la Svedia, "Neolatino" de Andr=E9 Schild de la Svizer, "Internatio= nal" de Campos Lima de la Portugal et "Ling" de Anders Olsen de la Svedia. = Mult altru produkts individual eset in la forma de la manuskripts. > La Dr= . Frederick Gardner Cottrell del Konsil de Reserk Internazional havet inter= eset ad la Sr. et la Fr. Dave Hennen Morris de Nov York ad la idea de gener= azion de un korp que kontinuer la studi kominiziet de la vari project de li= ngu internazional. La Sr. et la Fr. Morris havet eset longment aktiv in la = organizazions preokupet del meliorment de la stat de la sozietad human ed h= avet videt imediatment la importanz de un lingu internazional kom un del me= diums per develop la Komunitad internazional qual havet seminet alor un spe= ranz posibil. Fr. Alice Vanderbilt Morris, in 1924, iniziet et substenet la= asoziazion auxliari internazional de lingu (I.A.L.A. in angles) usk su mor= t. La Fr. Morris havet eset ank un member de la Academia pro Interlingua. >= La labor de I.A.L.A. eset isolazion et kodifikazion de la vokabulari inte= rnational trovet kom elements komun in la lingus europan modern. Al iniziet= del sekund guer mundial la labor de la Asoziazion movet de Liverpool, Gran= d Bretan, ad Nov York, U.S.A. In 1951 la Asoziazion publiket la Dixionari I= nterlingua-Angles. > La demand diskutibil que apart la vokabulari et la gr= amatik havet kauset adsik grand un varietad de sistems de auxiliari-lingu. = Lor multiplizitad havet spezetet la moviment per qual un lingu de mundo ad = que develop in la punkt de komunikazion modern. La funzion positiv de la si= tuazion dev eser solezitet, totvia. Subtot la partikulari eset diskutibil, = la sistem plu-numeros havet mult in komun. Los poteser konsideret kom la va= riants de un lingu internazional esenzial que eset latent in la lingus vive= nt. In tempor modern la lingu angles servet kom un lingu internazional. La = problem pratik plu urgent in la kamp de la interlinguistik eset developer a= xion de bas de la material de lingu que tot la interlinguists pot axept kom= autentik. La dixionaris, vokabularis, et ank altru lists-de-parols ofer ta= l material autentik pro interlinguists in nor tempor. Sed la preferenz pers= onal pro un projekt interlinguistik vers un altru obstruktet la progres. Et= la lingu angles regnet suprem. > In total, un pot dixer que la unitad de = la nazions europan, et per extension la nazions de la Amerikas, corespondet= in grand mesur ad un unitad linguistik. Sed la realitad de que un Interlin= gu pot meliorer la situazion mundial es dubitabil. Alor la unik soluzion us= abil, usk un Interlingu eset establet, eset aprender vari lingus nazional, = aut solment la angles. La demand pro un lingu internazional eset realitad, = qual lingu servet la nesesitad eset a vider. > Hok artikul eset skriptet= in "Latinovik" (un lingu inventet per Shelly Bakken) > > ---------- > = > Amike, Aleshandre Shavier Kasanova Domimgo, posto elektronikala trigrupo= @ yahoo.es (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10182 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=Wnx4C77QT3QUlVwRv-3_mQEbHdDXmUA5WWUJT9CgRPdQ6E4U9R0nTyrrysHU X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 ...Eske yo skriv "Latinove" vice "Latinovik"? Yo pet pardon, ya li tema es = pri "Latinovik". --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" scriv: > > Danko, kara Alexandre. > Anke yo no trovav nun alke= l tracies de Latinove in internet... From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10183 Return-Path: X-Sender: svoboda.gabriel@... 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Viro ignoto repete suo desiderio, sed= in modo vano. Idiom Neutral: Noun respond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue p= reg, ma vane. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10184 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Esperanto: Neniu respondo. La nekonatulo ripetas sian p= eton, sed vane. Ido: Nula respondo. La siorulo ne-konocata repetas sua dem= ando, ma vane. Interlingua: Nulle responde. Le senior incognite repete su = demanda, sed in van. Occidental/Interlingue: Null response. Li senior =EDn= conosset repetit su demande, ma in van. Latino sine Flexione: Nullo respon= so. Viro ignoto repete suo desiderio, sed in modo vano. Idiom Neutral: No= un respond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue preg, ma vane. Adjuvilo: Nula res= pondo. La siro nekonocata ripetin sua demando, ma vane. Mondial: Nul respo= nse. Le senior inconosate repeta su demande, ma in van. LFN: No responde. = La senior nonconoseda repete se esije, ma futil. ARIEL: Nul response. Le s= enior incognosate repete su demande, ma in van. Euralinga: Nula r=E9sponde= . La sen=E9ro n=EDconos=E1ta r=E9pete sua peten, seda por nula. Sambahsa: = Neid antwehrd. Is negnohn poti repeteiht sien eiskwen, bet in vain. Sibeli= ngua: Nula respondo. Li senioro ne-konosata repeta su demando, ma vane. Ld= P: Jawaba yok. Garibe sinior repeti suy demanda, bat vanem. Rapidlingue: N= ul responde. Le deskognoskat senyoro ripeta ilsu demande, pero vanim. Popu= lido: Nul responde. Le sioro no-konosat repete sui pete, ma vanei. Se vi = povas e deziras lo, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #39 aden plusa LIA-sistemi = qual Novial, Volap=FCk, Neo, Glosa, Mondlango/Ulango od irg altra neutra h= elpo-lingui, quin vi konocas. (Me pregas vi memorar, ke en nia frazo #39 n= e aparas la koncepto "repetar questiono", ma "repetar demando" [Eo: "ripeti= peton"]) Danko pro via jentila kunlaboro. * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a= * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10185 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Yo sendev mei gratules pri Nauruz a B= ablo ja kin (5) dies ante nun, ma li premoderata mesaje ankor no aparav, ev= idente moderatore (o moderatores) dormi. In tote, ankor nul aktivese che Ba= blo desde 11 mart. Posible ili ibe omna ja moriv. Ho ve, chagreneto... Ros= to. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" = escribi=F3: > > Yo jus abonav me por Bablo, vole spektar, ko isto es. > Yo= respondev ibe al mesaje da Kjell, del fine de 2010, > > Kjell skriv che B= ablo: > >Ego desira a omni lektores de Bablo un felice novi annu! > > >Mi = deziras al ĉiuj legantoj de Bablo Feliĉan novan jaron 2010! > > = >Kjell R > > Yo respondev: "Balde es feste aziani Nauruz, kel es cirka 2= 1 de mart, e anke es un feste de Nova Yare. Felisitate ad omnes! :)" > > N= u, ibe es skrita, ke mesajes de nova membres es premoderata. Mei mesaje do = ankor no aparav. Nu, yo expekta :) > > Rosto. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10186 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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"Desiderio" signifika = plu deziro kam demando. Plus, preferinda es selektar paroles kel resta in m= oderna uzo. "Nullo responso. Viro ignoto repete suo postulato, sed in vano= ." Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel Svoboda" escribi=F3: > > Latino sine Flexione: > Nullo responso. Viro i= gnoto repete suo desiderio, sed in modo vano. > > Idiom Neutral: > Noun re= spond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue preg, ma vane. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10187 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 65335 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2012 18:44:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Mar 2012 18:44:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng8-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.58) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Mar 2012 18:44:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1332355477; bh=kN65DWDgSngjYxAm7WEGtEcpHkWvTFLu0NJBVlxz9SQ=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=qn4aXfyY49tid1emZ6k5WSJSPi7AJJfyFnG71fStaAPwP12kY7jtoWt7i7ZCMyHPtE9UkJum2YfL6WPBMWvwTlRBV/98krztDD3NspVfgqRnbONVupPTCauwG1UFxDIP Received: from [98.139.164.121] by ng8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2012 18:44:37 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.148] by tg2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2012 18:44:37 -0000 Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2012 18:44:36 -0000 X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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VETERO / Blua cielo sunoza e print= empal, cajorne, en Francilia. =C2=A0 KONCIZE =C2=A0 USA / L'ADOLECANTI SEN= DAS 60 TEXTI DIALE Segun studiuro dil inquesto-centro Pew en Washington, = olqua publikigesis pasinta-lundie, l'adolecanti de 12 til 17 yari sendis m= eznombre 60 SMS diale en 2011, t.e. dek plu multa kam du yari ante nun. La= yunini esas le maxim asidua, havanta meza nombro de 100 texti diale, opoz= e a 50 por lia kolegi maskula. =C2=A0 BURMA / INVITO DI OBSERVERI LOR LA = ELEKTO EVENTONTA YE LA 1ma DI APRILO L'Asociuro dil nacioni di sudest-Azia= (Asean) indikis hiere ke la rejimo Burmana invitis la membri dil bloko re= gional sendar observeri por asistar la partala elekto deputital havanta lo= ko ye la venonta 1ma di aprilo. Aung San Kuu Kyi partoprenos ita elekto. Su= me, 23 observeri esus sendota adibe. =C2=A0 Aung San Kuu Kyi =C2=A0 TUNIZ= IA / LA IBEA PREZIDANTO EXHORTAS LA TUNIZIANI VIVAR "KUN E MALGRE LIA DIFE= RI" Aludante la "modernisti" ed "islamisti" qui opozesas, prezidanto Monce= f Marzouki invitis hiere la Tuniziani "ripensar pri lia relati" okazione d= i la celebro dil 56ma aniversario di la sendependeso di ca lando. "Ica fes= to esez okaziono por ni omna vivar kun nia diferi e malgre nia diferi", lu= deklaris. =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-::: --1707989683-497194545-1332367117=:393300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Jean Martign= on, che plura Ido-forumi)
 
Merkurdie, ye la 21= ma di marto 2012.
 
Dio di santa Klementia.
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / T= a qua timas sufrar, sufras pro timo.
 
ZODIAKO= / En la zodiako-signo dil Arieto guvernata dal planeto Marso.<= /div>
VETERO / Blua cielo sunoza e printempal, cajorne, en F= rancilia.
KONCIZE
 
USA / L'ADOLECANTI SENDAS 60 TEXTI DIALE
Segun studiuro dil inques= to-centro Pew en Washington, olqua publikigesis pasinta-lundie, l'adolecan= ti de 12 til 17 yari sendis meznombre 60 SMS diale en 2011, t.e. dek plu m= ulta kam du yari ante nun. La yunini esas le maxim asidua, havanta meza no= mbro de 100 texti diale, opoze a 50 por lia kolegi maskula.
 
BURMA / INVITO DI= OBSERVERI LOR LA ELEKTO EVENTONTA YE LA 1ma DI APRILO
L'Asociuro dil nacioni d= i sudest-Azia (Asean) indikis hiere ke la rejimo Burmana invitis la membri= dil bloko regional sendar observeri por asistar la partala elekto deputit= al havanta loko ye la venonta 1ma di aprilo. Aung San Kuu Kyi partoprenos = ita elekto. Sume, 23 observeri esus sendota adibe.
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TU= NIZIA / LA IBEA PREZIDANTO EXHORTAS LA TUNIZIANI VIVAR "KUN E MALGRE LIA D= IFERI"
<= b>Aludante la "modernisti" ed "islamisti" qui opozesas, prezidanto Moncef = Marzouki invitis hiere la Tuniziani "ripensar pri lia relati" okazione di = la celebro dil 56ma aniversario di la sendependeso di ca lando. "Ica festo= esez okaziono por ni omna vivar kun nia diferi e malgre nia diferi", lu d= eklaris.
 
Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::
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<= /html> --1707989683-497194545-1332367117=:393300-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10189 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 7282 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2012 00:00:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m14.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Mar 2012 00:00:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng20-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.178) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2012 00:00:33 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.125] by ng20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 00:00:32 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by tg6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 00:00:32 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 00:00:32 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:30 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Frazo #39 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=hg5M3BZrjxJPvk_FcAi2E9_aqYdxRqEKqvvaUfghAABPcKdwVhHPnSY X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Me ne savas Latino sine Flexione, ma la verbo tradukenda por nia frazo #39= , quale skribite, esas (prefere) "demandar", do nek "postular" nek "pregar"= : ("Me demandas de vu ekirar de hike"). Me anke ne savas Idiom Neutral, ma= me surprizesas trovar la verbo "pregar", nam, quale dicite, nia "siorulo" = ne "postulas", nam il ne darfas postular, ma anke ne pregas, nam, segun sem= blo, il demandas despolite. Kad existas verbo "demandar" en Idiom Neutral = e Latino sine Flexione? Se yes, ol esus forsan la maxim oportuna por nia fr= azo #39. Irga-kaze, la responsanto di ta du tradukuri es l'amiko Gabriel, = do se il deziras korektigar o chanjar ulo en oli, il certe informos ni pri= e. Kurajo ed adavane! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * -= -- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skrib= is: Yo vud selekta "postulato" vice "desiderio" por LsF. "Desiderio" signi= fika plu deziro kam demando. Plus, preferinda es selektar paroles kel resta= in moderna uzo. "Nullo responso. Viro ignoto repete suo postulato, sed i= n vano." Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel Svoboda" = escribi=F3: Latino sine Flexione: Nullo responso. Viro = ignoto repete suo desiderio, sed in modo vano. Idiom Neutral: Noun respon= d. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue preg, ma vane. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10190 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55923 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2012 02:16:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Mar 2012 02:16:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng4-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.18) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2012 02:16:02 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.126] by ng4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 02:16:02 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by tg7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 02:16:02 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 02:16:02 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 02:16:00 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Yo abonav me por Bablo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=IOC5e_2eRdE3p18qSoZlBPlTBlKKs3sfk3ln5_HnHzSYe_ZJbFoTIw4 X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas He, Rosto! Se tu aceptesay kom membre de Bablo, to signifike, ke ul respon= sante del foro aprobay tui pete e lektay tui mesaje, ka no? Ko evente, do? = Ka tui ling, mesaje o person es "non grata" la? Skribeu novi mesaje, ma n= o kom responde ad ansien tem, ma kom plen novi mesaje, e se posibli, skrib= eu ol per klasik Esperanto! Dum ke tu varte en le vartey del "destiste" ;= -) profiteu por lekte le revue's, kel tu troveray la! Tok-tok! Ding-dong! = Adavanei! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogrou= ps.com, "Rosto" skribay: Hodie es ja 21 mart, f= esto de Nauruz. Yo sendev mei gratules pri Nauruz a Bablo ja kin (5) dies a= nte nun, ma li premoderata mesaje ankor no aparav, evidente moderatore (o m= oderatores) dormi. In tote, ankor nul aktivese che Bablo desde 11 mart. Pos= ible ili ibe omna ja moriv. Ho ve, chagreneto... Rosto. --- En posta_= Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3: Yo jus = abonav me por Bablo, vole spektar, ko isto es. Yo respondev ibe al mesaje d= a Kjell, del fine de 2010, Kjell skriv che Bablo: >Ego desira a omni lekt= ores de Bablo un felice novi annu! >Mi deziras al ĉiuj legantoj de B= ablo Feliĉan novan jaron 2010! >Kjell R Yo respondev: "Balde es = feste aziani Nauruz, kel es cirka 21 de mart, e anke es un feste de Nova Ya= re. Felisitate ad omnes! :)" Nu, ibe es skrita, ke mesajes de nova membre= s es premoderata. Mei mesaje do ankor no aparav. Nu, yo expekta :) Rosto.= From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10191 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 49842 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2012 03:51:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m14.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Mar 2012 03:51:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng17-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.213) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2012 03:51:20 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.89] by ng17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 03:51:17 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by tg9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 03:51:17 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 03:51:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 03:51:15 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Frazo #39 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=UcAv3Gs-DY92aUzfpZe2fYcsbiBoQ9qTe95yfzwJqGa2gfHmXDz83A-riFmK X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Yo nun spektav in li vortare de Idiom Neutral, vere, li parol "demand, dema= ndar" es trovebla ibe. Ya, li labor del anciena Akademia pro Internacionala= Lingua es diligenta. "Noun respond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue demand, = ma vane." De altra later, yo subite komprenev, ke es desfacila por me kapt= ar li certa signifiko del koncepto "demandar" kuale tu, Partaka, deskriba i= t. Nu, forsan, "demandar" es alko meza inter "pregar" e "postular", ma... s= emble in lingua Rusi tala meza parol no existe. "Demandar" e "postular" es = un parol che nos. Forsan anke in altra Slavik linguas isto pova eser tala, = nam ya Zamenhof ipsa, e anke Gabriel have problemas in ista kaze. Anke in = Latina klasik li semantika es altra. Li latinik verbe "postulare" darfa sig= nifikar omno: prego, demando, postulo. Li verbe "demandare" have tote altra= signifiko. It es parenta al parol "mandate", e "demandare" ya signifika to= , donar un tasko (tache), misiono-komisiono. Lingua Latina es rika e have m= ulta nuances, ma semble moderna "demando" de Okcidento es un tarda inventur= e. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > > Me ne savas Latino sine Flexione, > ma la verbo trad= ukenda por nia frazo #39, > quale skribite, esas (prefere) "demandar", > do= nek "postular" nek "pregar": > ("Me demandas de vu ekirar de hike"). > > = Me anke ne savas Idiom Neutral, > ma me surprizesas trovar la verbo "pregar= ", > nam, quale dicite, nia "siorulo" ne "postulas", > nam il ne darfas pos= tular, ma anke ne pregas, > nam, segun semblo, il demandas despolite. > > = Kad existas verbo "demandar" en Idiom Neutral > e Latino sine Flexione? Se = yes, ol esus forsan > la maxim oportuna por nia frazo #39. > > Irga-kaze, = la responsanto di ta du tradukuri > es l'amiko Gabriel, do se il deziras ko= rektigar > o chanjar ulo en oli, il certe informos ni prie. > > Kurajo ed= adavane! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "Rosto" skrib= is: > > Yo vud selekta "postulato" vice "desiderio" por LsF. "Desiderio" s= ignifika plu deziro kam demando. Plus, preferinda es selektar paroles kel r= esta in moderna uzo. > > "Nullo responso. Viro ignoto repete suo postulat= o, sed in vano." > > Rosto. > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > = "Gabriel Svoboda" escribi=F3: > > Latino sine Flexione:= > Nullo responso. Viro ignoto repete suo desiderio, sed in modo vano. > = > Idiom Neutral: > Noun respond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue preg, ma vane= . > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10192 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 35588 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2012 05:17:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Mar 2012 05:17:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng11-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.198) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2012 05:17:57 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.180] by ng11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 05:17:57 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by tg5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 05:17:57 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 05:17:56 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 05:17:54 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Yo abonav me por Bablo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=GpNxa5BuEh2Sg92Nrv9MvvifEXm97Nfbo6sIQNUZ3axKaGYModQhrzok3O0F X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Kara Partaka, forsan che Bablo li regules de abono esev tala kuala tu dire,= ma nun yo abonav automatim, nun irga persone pova abonar tote libere ibe, = same kuale che posta_Mundi. Li problema apara kande on vole postir un mesaj= e. Ya, yo nun experienta tal problema :) Yo krede, ke forsan vere li modera= tore simple dormi ankor. Ya, anke nula altra aktivitate es videbla che Babl= o in lasta tempe. Yo forsan alkande skrira ibe in Esperanto o probara abona= r per altra nome, ma yo no hasta, e nun yo no vole disipar tempe por tala e= xperimentes. Ki ama spionado, pova probar ipsa :) Ya, isto es nur ludo, nul= a mala. Noi che posta_Mundi recente vokdonav por krear che Facebook un gru= pe dedikat a posta_Mundi. Tamen li afere no mova. Yo pensa, forsan isto es = pro ke noi ankor no fav alko importanta. Forsan dekomense noi deve esteblis= ar relates kun Bablo, kel de fakto es li institucione maxim proxima a posta= _Mundi. Desde kreo de posta_Mundi, in yares 2006, 2007 Partaka e altra foru= manes div, ke posta_Mundi deve esteblisar relates kun Bablo. Forsan tande l= i tempe ankor no veniv, posta_Mundi bezonav dekomense maturar e evolucionar= internu se ipsa. Nun, yo tima, ka forsan ja es tro tarda, forsan Bablo ja = tote moriv, ma forsan noi pova probar reanimir it. Forsan isto es important= a. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > He, Rosto! > > Se tu aceptesay kom membre de B= ablo, > to signifike, ke ul responsante del foro > aprobay tui pete e lekta= y tui mesaje, ka no? > Ko evente, do? > Ka tui ling, mesaje o person es "n= on grata" la? > > Skribeu novi mesaje, ma no kom responde > ad ansien tem= , ma kom plen novi mesaje, > e se posibli, skribeu ol per klasik Esperanto!= > > Dum ke tu varte en le vartey del "destiste" ;-) > profiteu por lekte= le revue's, kel tu troveray la! > > Tok-tok! Ding-dong! Adavanei! > = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10193 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=BuZ1ZqIHrgOozuOSL7td0N1d3oXp7ZEqDHfKbi4bBf4xMOKvrkK2VjieBjOb X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lingwadeplaneta" escribi=F3: > > > > Apropoo vesna, walaa un poema-ki ke me yus he post= i in Lidepla Feisbuk-grupa: > > VESNA. > > Surya brili in blu skay, > fau= la-gana suoni. > Vesna lai ya, vesna lai, > mah-alegre oni. > > Al balbata= de ruchey > kordia jagifi. > Inen flori yarke mey, > atma ol novifi. > > = Gro-priat es surya-ray, > it garmisi wanga. > Feng do vesna fuki-flai, > es= zuy hao kanga. > > Pi ba aira: vino es! > Wek, oo hima lao! > Vesna lai, = e pa novves > jiva es gro-hao. > > Ista poeme in LdP es simpatia. Noi (= Partaka e yo) vole inkluder it in li jurnal POSTA MUNDI #14. Yo nun anke fa= v un non-preciza traduko a Sibelingua, yo no intenta inkluder anke mei trad= ukure, tamen yen it hike: Sune brile in blu ciel, kansone de fogle sona, j= a printempe veni, on gaudia pro to. Riverete babila - kordie avigila. May = brila e florifa - anima denove yuna. Joy-plena sun-radie kaloriga vange. P= rintempi vente sufla, lude per harare. Drinku aere kuaze vino, exiliante v= intre. Yen printempe, nova tempe, e tre bona vita! Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10194 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Vol= untez sendar via kontributaji a nia chefa redaktero, Rosto, en la sequanta = e-adreso (nia redakteyo): enioni@... Adavane POSTA MUNDI #14! * *= * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroup= s.com, "postamundi" skribis: Kara kunredakteri di POSTA = MUNDI: Sen tro multa repozo, ni ja komencas aranjar la numero 14 di nia j= urnalo, qua publikigesos fine dil prezenta monato marto. Se vi deziras ku= nlaborar en POSTA MUNDI #14 per via texti ed artikli, voluntez sendar oli, = quale kustumale, a nia redakteyo en la sequanta e-adreso: enioni@yandex.r= u Predanko por via valoroza kontributaji, amiki. Adavane POSTA MUNDI #1= 4! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10197 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 81931 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2012 17:30:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m13.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Mar 2012 17:30:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng3-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.94) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2012 17:30:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.176] by ng3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 17:30:40 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by tg1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 17:30:40 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2012 17:30:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:30:39 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1164580683.20120320235611@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Latinovik (olim: Komunikando e Sibelingua). X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=lIBCPr3aOoXtZl4ud6LD-6A4rBmgzyPz4tUY1Oyw5RjR8fu0tXqCv-Y X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Salut, Aleshandre! Danke pro tui valoroz artikle skribat en Latinovik. Ka= tu saveskay kuan tal texte skribesay? Altri-vortei: ka tu save, plu-min, e= n kel yar publikigesay tal artikle, e kuan naskay le ling Latinovik? Me k= onjekte ke l' texte original abe le sekuant eror: en ol on aserte ke Pirro = (autoro de Universalglot) esay hispani, ma semble tre klar, ke il esay adve= re fransi, ka no? Predanke, Shandru! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * -= -- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo skribay: Latinovik Hola, Rosto. Latinovik ne es mito. Latinov= ik ne esas Latinove, e Latinovik existas, adminime ol existis. Latinovik k= reesis da Shelly Bakken. Hodie, desfortunoze, elu ne parolas publike pri La= tinovik, ed elua pagini internetala desaparis. Ma me konservas ica texto p= er Latinovik che mea disko komputorala. ---------- Shell Shokked Ial s = h e l l s h o k k e d @ y a h o o . c o m Hok artikul no es in angl= es! Hok artikul es sur interlinguistik, sur la interlingu? Vu komprendet ho= k fras, no? La interlingu, la lingu mundial, alor usabil eset la angles, se= d in kontrast ad la totalitad de pagins in angles hok eset skriptet in "Lat= inovik" (un lingu inventet per me). Sik vu eset un Interlinguist vu kompren= det hok skript sur Interlinguistik Histori. La reserk per un lingu interna= zional komun poteser sequet de nov from inizi de la period modern. La nozio= n de obtener un tal lingu de la elements komun ad la lingus nazional aparet= vers la fin de la dekioktesim et presk dekinovesim sekul. De quest inizi e= s veniet la development gradual de qual ram de la linguistik komparativ que= es donet la nomin de la Interlinguistik. La homins de mult nazionalita hav= et partezipet ad la relativ realizment de su maturitad. La prim per resolv= er un sistem komplet de auxiliari-lingu baset sur elements komun in la ling= us nazional eset un hispan, Pirro, de qui Universalglot eset publiket in 18= 68. [...] From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10198 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=337052799 --Apple-Mail-1--197323464 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Car amici! Le lingue de Shelly Bakken, le Latinovik es tres similar a nostr= e Latinove et ARIEL, ma use plus de leteri del alfabet pro expreser le mesm= e mesaje. Io trove le Latinovik legibile e elegantemente construite, e io l= o benvenite a in nostre familie de lingui auxiliar. Io vole ben saper le na= zionalitate de Shelly Bakken. Esce ila es un americana con radizi norvegian= ? Osmund Aukland Den 20. mars 2012 kl. 23:56 skrev Alexandre Xavier Casan= ova Domingo : > Latinovik > > > > Hola= , Rosto. > > Latinovik ne es mito. Latinovik ne esas Latinove, e La= tinovik existas, adminime ol existis. > > Latinovik kreesis da Shel= ly Bakken. Hodie, desfortunoze, elu ne parolas publike pri Latinovik, ed el= ua pagini internetala desaparis. > > Ma me konservas ica texto per = Latinovik che mea disko komputorala. > > > > ---------- > > > = > Shell Shokked Ial > > s h e l l s h o k k e d @ y a h o o = . c o m > > > > Hok artikul no es in angles! Hok artikul e= s sur interlinguistik, sur la interlingu? Vu komprendet hok fras, no? La in= terlingu, la lingu mundial, alor usabil eset la angles, sed in kontrast ad = la totalitad de pagins in angles hok eset skriptet in "Latinovik" (un lingu= inventet per me). Sik vu eset un Interlinguist vu komprendet hok skript su= r Interlinguistik Histori. > > La reserk per un lingu internazional= komun poteser sequet de nov from inizi de la period modern. La nozion de o= btener un tal lingu de la elements komun ad la lingus nazional aparet vers = la fin de la dekioktesim et presk dekinovesim sekul. De quest inizi es veni= et la development gradual de qual ram de la linguistik komparativ que es do= net la nomin de la Interlinguistik. La homins de mult nazionalita havet par= tezipet ad la relativ realizment de su maturitad. > > La prim per r= esolver un sistem komplet de auxiliari-lingu baset sur elements komun in la= lingus nazional eset un hispan, Pirro, de qui Universalglot eset publiket = in 1868. Signifikant que la lingus kom la franzes, angles, hispan, german, = Italian, etc. havet in komun un fund adsik extensive de ideas et kredenz, d= e forms lingual teknologik et sientifik, que un pot apeler lo kom varianz d= e la simil standard. De la idea ad la implementazion vari projects interlin= guistik havet diferent suxes. > > Volap=C3=BCk, la labor de un pres= ter german mult-lingual, Johann Martin Schleyer, que aparet in 1880, havet = uset la idea in un sens limitet, disegnant pesant sur la angles. La angles = eset la lingu perfekt kom bas de reserk pro Schleyer: Angles es un lingu mi= xet de radik germanik et romanik; la vokabulari internazional es un obvios = part de la lingu angles. Volap=C3=BCk in un sens es kom un angles evoluzion= et in fonetik et gramatik forms. Mult adherents a Volap=C3=BCk formet mult = konferenz et reunions. Quest sistem linguistik havet un dekad de popularita= d extraordinari que havet justifiket la instituzion de un Kadem Volap=C3=BC= k (akademi de volapuek). > > La esperanto, ank la kreazion de un ho= min mult-lingual, la Dr. Ludwig Lazarus Zamenhof de la Polonia, eset publik= et in 1887 et havet realizet un bon-nomin larg per self. In 1894, la Dr. Za= menhof havet proposet un esperanto reformet in respons ad la request pro un= gramatik simplifiket et un vokabulari plu kompletment internazional. Sed s= u propons no eset adoptet. > > In 1907, tre franzes, Louis Leau, Lo= uis Couturat et Louis de Beaufront, eset guidet de un delegazion que havet = proponset ankor determinet reform in esperanto. La resultet eset un skism i= n la moviment de la esperanto kon la promulgazion de un altru sistem denomi= net Ido. > > La sistem original de la Dr. Zamenhof eset remanet la = fundamento de tot le publikazions et organizazions ofizial de la esperanto,= de qui zi eset mult in la mund integer. Ido un altru eset uset kon suxes i= n multe publikazions. > > La esperanto II, un sistem proponset de R= en=C3=A9 de Saussure de la Svizer, que havet miret ad remover determinet ka= rateristiks de esperanto mentru mantenet la relativ struktur fundamental, n= o eset uset sed in qualkun mesur grande. > > In la mentru-tempor un= austriak, Julius Lott et un Chilen, Alberto Liptay, ulteriorment havet exp= reset la idea que "la lingu internazional no devet eser inventet. Lo exist.= Un dev soltant rekolier tot la relativ parols et regular lo in la ordin." = Quand Waldemar Rosenberger, un Russo, havet presuponset la direxion de la a= kademi deklinant de Volap=C3=BCk, havet maket de lo un grup energik de expe= riment kon la inizi de la Liptay. La resultet, in 1902, eset konozet kom "I= diom Neutral". Un kontemporan de Rosenberger, basant la su labor per inizi,= eset Dr. H. Molenaar de la Germania. havet kontinuet ad substener la su si= stem kon la pseudonomin de "Unial". > > In 1910, la "Akademi de Idi= om Neutral" (previosment Volap=C3=BCk), sub la direxion de un matematik pro= fessor italian, Giuseppe Peano, eset transformet in la "Academia pro Interl= ingua", un sozietad per reserk in interlinguistiko. La plu grand part de la= relativ publikazion eset sub form de la interlingua konozet kom la Latino = sine Flexione, sed la relativ members eset liber ad experimenter kon et mak= er, altru proponset lingus. Un member, Aldo Lavagnini, un italian in la Mex= iko, havet promovet la su propri sistem kon la pseudonomin de Mondi-Lingua.= Le relativ sedi eset ad Torino, Italia. De post la sekund guer mundial ese= t reorganizet in la Nederland. > > "Occidental", suxesivment ank de= nominet "Interlingue", eset publiket de un estonian, Edgar von Wahl, in 192= 5. Von Wahl (plu tard chanjet ad "De Wahl") havet dediket mult atenzion ad = la problem de kombinazion de la naturalitad kon la regularitad in la models= derivativ de su lingu. Un potet trovet mult lingu-usetors durant la tot Eu= ropa avant la sekund guer mundial. Lo havet vari periodiks publiket regular= ment in tal lingu. La sedi de la Interlingue-Union eset in Svizer. > > = In 1925, Joseph Weisbart, ank un german, havet kominiziet ad promover s= u "Medial". Otto Jespersen, la linguist internazionalment konozet de la Dan= imark, havet produktet un sistem proper denominet "Novial". > > Dur= ant la quart paset de un experiment de sekul in interlinguistiko eset in au= gment. La sistems de post publiket eset "Interglossa" de Lancelot Hogben de= la Grand Bretan, "Internasional" de Paul Mitrovich de la Yugoslavia, "Mond= ial" da Helge Heimer de la Svedia, "Neolatino" de Andr=C3=A9 Schild de la S= vizer, "International" de Campos Lima de la Portugal et "Ling" de Anders Ol= sen de la Svedia. Mult altru produkts individual eset in la forma de la man= uskripts. > > La Dr. Frederick Gardner Cottrell del Konsil de Reser= k Internazional havet intereset ad la Sr. et la Fr. Dave Hennen Morris de N= ov York ad la idea de generazion de un korp que kontinuer la studi kominizi= et de la vari project de lingu internazional. La Sr. et la Fr. Morris havet= eset longment aktiv in la organizazions preokupet del meliorment de la sta= t de la sozietad human ed havet videt imediatment la importanz de un lingu = internazional kom un del mediums per develop la Komunitad internazional qua= l havet seminet alor un speranz posibil. Fr. Alice Vanderbilt Morris, in 19= 24, iniziet et substenet la asoziazion auxliari internazional de lingu (I.A= .L.A. in angles) usk su mort. La Fr. Morris havet eset ank un member de la = Academia pro Interlingua. > > La labor de I.A.L.A. eset isolazion e= t kodifikazion de la vokabulari international trovet kom elements komun in = la lingus europan modern. Al iniziet del sekund guer mundial la labor de la= Asoziazion movet de Liverpool, Grand Bretan, ad Nov York, U.S.A. In 1951 l= a Asoziazion publiket la Dixionari Interlingua-Angles. > > La deman= d diskutibil que apart la vokabulari et la gramatik havet kauset adsik gran= d un varietad de sistems de auxiliari-lingu. Lor multiplizitad havet spezet= et la moviment per qual un lingu de mundo ad que develop in la punkt de kom= unikazion modern. La funzion positiv de la situazion dev eser solezitet, to= tvia. Subtot la partikulari eset diskutibil, la sistem plu-numeros havet mu= lt in komun. Los poteser konsideret kom la variants de un lingu internazion= al esenzial que eset latent in la lingus vivent. In tempor modern la lingu = angles servet kom un lingu internazional. La problem pratik plu urgent in l= a kamp de la interlinguistik eset developer axion de bas de la material de = lingu que tot la interlinguists pot axept kom autentik. La dixionaris, voka= bularis, et ank altru lists-de-parols ofer tal material autentik pro interl= inguists in nor tempor. Sed la preferenz personal pro un projekt interlingu= istik vers un altru obstruktet la progres. Et la lingu angles regnet suprem= . > > In total, un pot dixer que la unitad de la nazions europan, e= t per extension la nazions de la Amerikas, corespondet in grand mesur ad un= unitad linguistik. Sed la realitad de que un Interlingu pot meliorer la si= tuazion mundial es dubitabil. Alor la unik soluzion usabil, usk un Interlin= gu eset establet, eset aprender vari lingus nazional, aut solment la angles= . La demand pro un lingu internazional eset realitad, qual lingu servet la = nesesitad eset a vider. > > Hok artikul eset skriptet in "Latinov= ik" (un lingu inventet per Shelly Bakken) > > > > ---------- > >= > > Amike, Aleshandre Shavier Kasanova Domimgo, posto elektronik= ala trigrupo @ yahoo.es (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). > > > > > > = ----- Mesajo originala ----- > > > > Yo nun okazionale renk= ontrav mesaje de posta_Mundi #922, da Alexandre: > > http://es.grou= ps.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/message/922 > > > > "Lista posta_M= undi > > > > Iste lista es por usa tot lingua helpante o auxilian= te preferat de cada membro, com Adjuvilo, Esperanto, Fasile, Lingua Franca = Nova, Ikuso, Interlingua, Volap=C3=BCk, Intal, Mondlango, Ido, Occidental-I= nterlingue, Neo Patwa, Medilingua, Europanto, Latinovik, Usik, Ro, Novial, = etcetera. Altre listas de auxilinguistica solmen permesa l'uso de un auxili= ngua concret, por isto le lista posta_Mundi es un solution de conviventia e= de dialogo inter le diverse auxilinguas. Solmen le linguas territorial com= English, Espa=C3=B1ol, Fran=C3=A7ais, Deutsch, Afrikaans, Bahasa Indonesia= , Quechua, Swahili, etcetera, resta excluat de nose lista. Iste mesage de p= resentation was escribat in un mixage neutral, facilmen comprenable, de div= erse linguas helpante o auxiliante planificat. Bonveno, nov membro!". > > = > > Ya, isto es tre simila a alko kuale Komunikando o Sibelingua, = eske no? > > Anke Alexandre pova, kande vole. > > Yo metev = it anke ad hike: > > http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi:P= ri > > > > Rosto > > > > --Apple-Mail-1--197323464 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Car amici!
Le lingue de Shel= ly Bakken, le Latinovik es tres similar a nostre Latinove et ARIEL, ma use = plus de leteri del alfabet pro expreser le mesme mesaje. Io trove le Latino= vik legibile e elegantemente construite, e io lo benvenite a in nostre fami= lie de lingui auxiliar. Io vole ben saper le nazionalitate de Shelly Bakken= . Esce ila es un americana con radizi norvegian?

Osmund Aukland

Den 20. mars 2012 kl. 23:56 skrev Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domin= go <trigrupo@...>:
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<= p>

      &= nbsp;Latinovik


      &n= bsp;Hola, Rosto.

&nbs= p;      Latinovik ne es mito. Latinovik ne esas Latinove, e = Latinovik existas, adminime ol existis.

       Latinovik kreesis da Shelly B= akken. Hodie, desfortunoze, elu ne parolas publike pri Latinovik, ed elua p= agini internetala desaparis.

       Ma me konservas ica texto per Latinovik = che mea disko komputorala.


  &nbs= p;    ----------


  &nbs= p;    Shell Shokked Ial

       s h e l l s h o k k e d @ y a h o o= . c o m

   =   

  =       Hok artikul no es in angles! Hok artikul es sur i= nterlinguistik, sur la interlingu? Vu komprendet hok fras, no? La interling= u, la lingu mundial, alor usabil eset la angles, sed in kontrast ad la tota= litad de pagins in angles hok eset skriptet in "Latinovik" (un lingu invent= et per me). Sik vu eset un Interlinguist vu komprendet hok skript sur Inter= linguistik Histori.

&= nbsp;      La reserk per un lingu internazional komun potese= r sequet de nov from inizi de la period modern. La nozion de obtener un tal= lingu de la elements komun ad la lingus nazional aparet vers la fin de la = dekioktesim et presk dekinovesim sekul. De quest inizi es veniet la develop= ment gradual de qual ram de la linguistik komparativ que es donet la nomin = de la Interlinguistik. La homins de mult nazionalita havet partezipet ad la= relativ realizment de su maturitad.

       La prim per resolver un sistem k= omplet de auxiliari-lingu baset sur elements komun in la lingus nazional es= et un hispan, Pirro, de qui Universalglot eset publiket in 1868. Signifikan= t que la lingus kom la franzes, angles, hispan, german, Italian, etc. havet= in komun un fund adsik extensive de ideas et kredenz, de forms lingual tek= nologik et sientifik, que un pot apeler lo kom varianz de la simil standard= . De la idea ad la implementazion vari projects interlinguistik havet difer= ent suxes.

  &nb= sp;    Volap=C3=BCk, la labor de un prester german mult-lingual, = Johann Martin Schleyer, que aparet in 1880, havet uset la idea in un sens l= imitet, disegnant pesant sur la angles. La angles eset la lingu perfekt kom= bas de reserk pro Schleyer: Angles es un lingu mixet de radik germanik et = romanik; la vokabulari internazional es un obvios part de la lingu angles. = Volap=C3=BCk in un sens es kom un angles evoluzionet in fonetik et gramatik= forms. Mult adherents a Volap=C3=BCk formet mult konferenz et reunions. Qu= est sistem linguistik havet un dekad de popularitad extraordinari que havet= justifiket la instituzion de un Kadem Volap=C3=BCk (akademi de volapuek).<= /span>

      =  La esperanto, ank la kreazion de un homin mult-lingual, la Dr. Ludwig= Lazarus Zamenhof de la Polonia, eset publiket in 1887 et havet realizet un= bon-nomin larg per self. In 1894, la Dr. Zamenhof havet proposet un espera= nto reformet in respons ad la request pro un gramatik simplifiket et un vok= abulari plu kompletment internazional. Sed su propons no eset adoptet.

      &nbs= p;In 1907, tre franzes, Louis Leau, Louis Couturat et Louis de Beaufront, e= set guidet de un delegazion que havet proponset ankor determinet reform in = esperanto. La resultet eset un skism in la moviment de la esperanto kon la = promulgazion de un altru sistem denominet Ido.

       La sistem original de = la Dr. Zamenhof eset remanet la fundamento de tot le publikazions et organi= zazions ofizial de la esperanto, de qui zi eset mult in la mund integer. Id= o un altru eset uset kon suxes in multe publikazions.

       La esperanto = II, un sistem proponset de Ren=C3=A9 de Saussure de la Svizer, que havet mi= ret ad remover determinet karateristiks de esperanto mentru mantenet la rel= ativ struktur fundamental, no eset uset sed in qualkun mesur grande.=

       = In la mentru-tempor un austriak, Julius Lott et un Chilen, Alberto Liptay, = ulteriorment havet expreset la idea que "la lingu internazional no devet es= er inventet. Lo exist. Un dev soltant rekolier tot la relativ parols et reg= ular lo in la ordin." Quand Waldemar Rosenberger, un Russo, havet presupons= et la direxion de la akademi deklinant de Volap=C3=BCk, havet maket de lo u= n grup energik de experiment kon la inizi de la Liptay. La resultet, in 190= 2, eset konozet kom "Idiom Neutral". Un kontemporan de Rosenberger, basant = la su labor per inizi, eset Dr. H. Molenaar de la Germania. havet kontinuet= ad substener la su sistem kon la pseudonomin de "Unial".

       In 1910, la= "Akademi de Idiom Neutral" (previosment Volap=C3=BCk), sub la direxion de = un matematik professor italian, Giuseppe Peano, eset transformet in la "Aca= demia pro Interlingua", un sozietad per reserk in interlinguistiko. La plu = grand part de la relativ publikazion eset sub form de la interlingua konoze= t kom la Latino sine Flexione, sed la relativ members eset liber ad experim= enter kon et maker, altru proponset lingus. Un member, Aldo Lavagnini, un i= talian in la Mexiko, havet promovet la su propri sistem kon la pseudonomin = de Mondi-Lingua. Le relativ sedi eset ad Torino, Italia. De post la sekund = guer mundial eset reorganizet in la Nederland.

       "Occidental", suxesivm= ent ank denominet "Interlingue", eset publiket de un estonian, Edgar von Wa= hl, in 1925. Von Wahl (plu tard chanjet ad "De Wahl") havet dediket mult at= enzion ad la problem de kombinazion de la naturalitad kon la regularitad in= la models derivativ de su lingu. Un potet trovet mult lingu-usetors durant= la tot Europa avant la sekund guer mundial. Lo havet vari periodiks publik= et regularment in tal lingu. La sedi de la Interlingue-Union eset in Svizer= .

     = ;  In 1925, Joseph Weisbart, ank un german, havet kominiziet ad promov= er su "Medial". Otto Jespersen, la linguist internazionalment konozet de la= Danimark, havet produktet un sistem proper denominet "Novial".

=

       Duran= t la quart paset de un experiment de sekul in interlinguistiko eset in augm= ent. La sistems de post publiket eset "Interglossa" de Lancelot Hogben de l= a Grand Bretan, "Internasional" de Paul Mitrovich de la Yugoslavia, "Mondia= l" da Helge Heimer de la Svedia, "Neolatino" de Andr=C3=A9 Schild de la Svi= zer, "International" de Campos Lima de la Portugal et "Ling" de Anders Olse= n de la Svedia. Mult altru produkts individual eset in la forma de la manus= kripts.

   =    La Dr. Frederick Gardner Cottrell del Konsil de Reserk Intern= azional havet intereset ad la Sr. et la Fr. Dave Hennen Morris de Nov York = ad la idea de generazion de un korp que kontinuer la studi kominiziet de la= vari project de lingu internazional. La Sr. et la Fr. Morris havet eset lo= ngment aktiv in la organizazions preokupet del meliorment de la stat de la = sozietad human ed havet videt imediatment la importanz de un lingu internaz= ional kom un del mediums per develop la Komunitad internazional qual havet = seminet alor un speranz posibil. Fr. Alice Vanderbilt Morris, in 1924, iniz= iet et substenet la asoziazion auxliari internazional de lingu (I.A.L.A. in= angles) usk su mort. La Fr. Morris havet eset ank un member de la Academia= pro Interlingua.

&nb= sp;      La labor de I.A.L.A. eset isolazion et kodifikazion= de la vokabulari international trovet kom elements komun in la lingus euro= pan modern. Al iniziet del sekund guer mundial la labor de la Asoziazion mo= vet de Liverpool, Grand Bretan, ad Nov York, U.S.A. In 1951 la Asoziazion p= ubliket la Dixionari Interlingua-Angles.

       La demand diskutibil que apa= rt la vokabulari et la gramatik havet kauset adsik grand un varietad de sis= tems de auxiliari-lingu. Lor multiplizitad havet spezetet la moviment per q= ual un lingu de mundo ad que develop in la punkt de komunikazion modern. La= funzion positiv de la situazion dev eser solezitet, totvia. Subtot la part= ikulari eset diskutibil, la sistem plu-numeros havet mult in komun. Los pot= eser konsideret kom la variants de un lingu internazional esenzial que eset= latent in la lingus vivent. In tempor modern la lingu angles servet kom un= lingu internazional. La problem pratik plu urgent in la kamp de la interli= nguistik eset developer axion de bas de la material de lingu que tot la int= erlinguists pot axept kom autentik. La dixionaris, vokabularis, et ank altr= u lists-de-parols ofer tal material autentik pro interlinguists in nor temp= or. Sed la preferenz personal pro un projekt interlinguistik vers un altru = obstruktet la progres. Et la lingu angles regnet suprem.

       In total, un= pot dixer que la unitad de la nazions europan, et per extension la nazions= de la Amerikas, corespondet in grand mesur ad un unitad linguistik. Sed la= realitad de que un Interlingu pot meliorer la situazion mundial es dubitab= il. Alor la unik soluzion usabil, usk un Interlingu eset establet, eset apr= ender vari lingus nazional, aut solment la angles. La demand pro un lingu i= nternazional eset realitad, qual lingu servet la nesesitad eset a vider. &n= bsp;

    &n= bsp;  Hok artikul eset skriptet in "Latinovik" (un lingu inventet per = Shelly Bakken)


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      =  Amike, Aleshandre Shavier Kasanova Domimgo, posto elektronikala trigr= upo @ yahoo.es (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto = es).


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       ----- Mesajo originala = -----


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       Yo nu= n okazionale renkontrav mesaje de posta_Mundi #922, da Alexandre:

       http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/message/922


       "Lista posta_Mundi<= /span>


       Iste lista = es por usa tot lingua helpante o auxiliante preferat de cada membro, com Ad= juvilo, Esperanto, Fasile, Lingua Franca Nova, Ikuso, Interlingua, Volap=C3= =BCk, Intal, Mondlango, Ido, Occidental-Interlingue, Neo Patwa, Medilingua,= Europanto, Latinovik, Usik, Ro, Novial, etcetera. Altre listas de auxiling= uistica solmen permesa l'uso de un auxilingua concret, por isto le lista po= sta_Mundi es un solution de conviventia e de dialogo inter le diverse auxil= inguas. Solmen le linguas territorial com English, Espa=C3=B1ol, Fran=C3=A7= ais, Deutsch, Afrikaans, Bahasa Indonesia, Quechua, Swahili, etcetera, rest= a excluat de nose lista. Iste mesage de presentation was escribat in un mix= age neutral, facilmen comprenable, de diverse linguas helpante o auxiliante= planificat. Bonveno, nov membro!".


&n= bsp;      Ya, isto es tre simila a alko kuale Komunikando o = Sibelingua, eske no?

=        Anke Alexandre pova, kande vole.

       Yo metev = it anke ad hike:

&nbs= p;      http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi:Pri=


       Rosto

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Ik sar lo frazo#39 en lo linguo = "Neo" da Alfandari. Neo Nil rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea ezigo. Kordy= ale Doro --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: > > Voluntez ankor-fo= ye atencar nia specal frazo #39, > qua ja tradukesis aden la 16 sequanta LI= A-sistemi: > Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, > Latino = sine Flexione, Idiom Neutral, Adjuvilo, Mondial, LFN, > ARIEL, Euralinga, = Sambahsa, Sibelingua, LdP, Rapidlingue, Populido. > > > Esperanto: > Neni= u respondo. La nekonatulo ripetas sian peton, sed vane. > > Ido: > Nula re= spondo. La siorulo ne-konocata repetas sua demando, ma vane. > > Interling= ua: > Nulle responde. Le senior incognite repete su demanda, sed in van. > = > Occidental/Interlingue: > Null response. Li senior =EDnconosset repetit = su demande, ma in van. > > Latino sine Flexione: > Nullo responso. Viro ig= noto repete suo desiderio, sed in modo vano. > > Idiom Neutral: > Noun re= spond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue preg, ma vane. > > Adjuvilo: > Nula re= spondo. La siro nekonocata ripetin sua demando, ma vane. > > Mondial: > Nu= l response. Le senior inconosate repeta su demande, ma in van. > > LFN: > = No responde. La senior nonconoseda repete se esije, ma futil. > > ARIEL: >= Nul response. Le senior incognosate repete su demande, ma in van. > > Eur= alinga: > Nula r=E9sponde. La sen=E9ro n=EDconos=E1ta r=E9pete sua peten, s= eda por nula. > > Sambahsa: > Neid antwehrd. Is negnohn poti repeteiht sie= n eiskwen, bet in vain. > > Sibelingua: > Nula respondo. Li senioro ne-kon= osata repeta su demando, ma vane. > > LdP: > Jawaba yok. Garibe sinior rep= eti suy demanda, bat vanem. > > Rapidlingue: > Nul responde. Le deskognosk= at senyoro ripeta ilsu demande, pero vanim. > > Populido: > Nul responde. = Le sioro no-konosat repete sui pete, ma vanei. > > > Se vi povas e dezira= s lo, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #39 > aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Novial,= Volap=FCk, Neo, Glosa, > Mondlango/Ulango od irg altra neutra helpo-lingu= i, quin vi konocas. > > (Me pregas vi memorar, ke en nia frazo #39 ne apar= as la koncepto > "repetar questiono", ma "repetar demando" [Eo: "ripeti pet= on"]) > > Danko pro via jentila kunlaboro. > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r= t a k a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10202 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 40769 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2012 11:36:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Mar 2012 11:36:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng3-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.8) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2012 11:36:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1332502597; bh=ZaOzYrRJ8dqHa9EpvgUewnCUnWMdDhg5cUzkfCa7Zs4=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=pMbCGri36R5UKhKDvwFSNG4aXLIwzCyvSK7Vylc9rpxrh1NRDwkIjHP+ISE21njvVbytovfOE5qo1Wsi0cvn+4Bk2lFUT03NkdDb6Pvxae3EOOZMSdHBs3Sm4Y04x7qk Received: from [98.139.164.126] by ng3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2012 11:36:37 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.150] by tg7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2012 11:36:37 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2012 11:36:37 -0000 X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=XtiP1wlDTa2BpuR-8_HAufl5u7s_-_lAQFTS-k7WGwkGKnEf9BZQb8FE X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta X-eGroups-Approved-By: qualevistandas via web; 23 Mar 2012 11:36:36 -0000 --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" es= cribi=F3: > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lingwadeplaneta" <= lingwadeplaneta@> escribi=F3: > > > > > > > > Apropoo vesna, walaa un poe= ma-ki ke me yus he posti in Lidepla Feisbuk-grupa: > > > > VESNA. > > > >= Surya brili in blu skay, > > faula-gana suoni. > > Vesna lai ya, vesna lai= , > > mah-alegre oni. > > > > Al balbata de ruchey > > kordia jagifi. > > = Inen flori yarke mey, > > atma ol novifi. > > > > Gro-priat es surya-ray, = > > it garmisi wanga. > > Feng do vesna fuki-flai, > > es zuy hao kanga. > = > > > Pi ba aira: vino es! > > Wek, oo hima lao! > > Vesna lai, e pa novve= s > > jiva es gro-hao. > > > > > > > Ista poeme in LdP es simpatia. Noi= (Partaka e yo) vole inkluder it in li jurnal POSTA MUNDI #14. > Yo nun ank= e fav un non-preciza traduko a Sibelingua, yo no intenta inkluder anke mei = tradukure, tamen yen it hike: > > Sune brile in blu ciel, > kansone de fog= le sona, > ja printempe veni, > on gaudia pro to. > > Riverete babila - > = kordie avigila. > May brila e florifa - > anima denove yuna. > > Joy-plena= sun-radie > kaloriga vange. > Printempi vente sufla, > lude per harare. > = > Drinku aere kuaze vino, > exiliante vintre. > Yen printempe, nova tempe,= > e tre bona vita! > > Rosto. > Shukran, Rosto. Al vidi Sibelingua-ney = "vita", me'd yao jan un kosa: kwel es korespondi-she zwo-worda? (LdP) jivi= - jiva (Sibelingua) ??? - vita From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10203 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Me multe dankas tu pro tua tradukuro de nia frazo #39 ade= n Neo; tamen, segun semblo, tu tradukabas ol ne-komplete, nam ol indijas la= kaudo, to es, "ma vane" (en Ido). Forsan tu ipsa, o nia kompani, Jaime ed = Igor, o mem altra interesati pri Neo voluntos kompletigar la frazo ante ke = me adjuntos ol a nia listo. Me ne savas Neo, ma se me mustus tradukar tal = kaudo, forsan me dicus: "mo sen riusi" o "mo neutile". Se posibla, volunte= z donar a ni la Neo-versiono definitiva! Predanko a Doro ed altra Neo-amik= i. * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@ya= hoogroups.com, "Dorothea" skribis: Mas lib amikos del = internasyonas linguos! Ik sar lo frazo#39 en lo linguo "Neo" da Alfandari= . Neo Nil rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea ezigo. Kordyale Doro From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10204 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Pardon, mi vere oblir un part del frazo#39. Lo kompleta f= razo sar: Neo Nil rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea ezigo, mo vane. Kordi= ale Doro ________________________________ Von: postamundi An: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: 15:18 Freitag, 23.M= =C3=A4rz 2012 Betreff: [posta_Mundi] RE: Frazo #39 (tradukuri) =C2=A0 B= on jorno, Doro! Me multe dankas tu pro tua tradukuro de nia frazo #39 aden= Neo; tamen, segun semblo, tu tradukabas ol ne-komplete, nam ol indijas la = kaudo, to es, "ma vane" (en Ido). Forsan tu ipsa, o nia kompani, Jaime ed I= gor, o mem altra interesati pri Neo voluntos kompletigar la frazo ante ke m= e adjuntos ol a nia listo. Me ne savas Neo, ma se me mustus tradukar tal k= audo, forsan me dicus: "mo sen riusi" o "mo neutile". Se posibla, voluntez= donar a ni la Neo-versiono definitiva! Predanko a Doro ed altra Neo-amiki= . * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yaho= ogroups.com, "Dorothea" skribis: Mas lib amikos del in= ternasyonas linguos! Ik sar lo frazo#39 en lo linguo "Neo" da Alfandari. = Neo Nil rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea ezigo. Kordyale Doro --1339092814-119877709-1332519811=:616677 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Liba Partaka!

Pardon, mi vere oblir un part del frazo#39.

Lo kompleta frazo sar:

N= eo
Nil rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea ezigo, mo vane.

<= /div>
Kordiale
Doro

= Von: postamundi
An:<= /b> posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com
= Gesendet: 15:18 Freitag, 23.M=C3=A4rz 2012
Betreff: [posta_Mundi] RE: Frazo #39 (tradu= kuri)

=  
Bon jorno, Doro!

Me multe dan= kas tu pro tua tradukuro
de nia frazo #39 aden Neo; tamen, segun semblo= ,
tu tradukabas ol ne-komplete, nam ol indijas la kaudo,
to es, "ma= vane" (en Ido). Forsan tu ipsa, o nia kompani,
Jaime ed Igor, o mem al= tra interesati pri Neo voluntos
kompletigar la frazo ante ke me adjunto= s ol a nia listo.

Me ne savas Neo, ma se me mustus tradukar tal ka= udo,
forsan me dicus: "mo sen riusi" o "mo neutile".

Se posibl= a, voluntez donar a ni la Neo-versiono definitiva!

Predanko a Doro= ed altra Neo-amiki.

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * = * * * * *

--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
"Dorothea" skribis:

Mas lib amikos del internasyonas linguos!
<= br> Ik sar lo frazo#39 en lo linguo "Neo" da Alfandari.

Neo
N= il rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea ezigo.

Kordyale
Doro
=


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La Germana guvernerio ne profitigabus de lua avantajoza= rejimo fiskal entraprezeyi tamen=C2=A0mustanta pagar imposti en ica lando= . =C2=A0 EUROPA / LA IRO AL SOMERALA TEMPO EVENTOS DUM LA NOKTO DI SATURDI= O TIL SUNDIO La iro ad somerala tempo eventos=C2=A0dum sundio 25ma di mart= o 2012 ye 2 kloki matine. Lo esos lore 3 kloki. La chanjo dil kloki establ= isesis en Europa kom konsequo dil krizo dil petrolo di 1973-1974. Depos 19= 88, la dati harmoniigesis interne di Europana Uniono. Ita aranjuro tamen k= ontestesas da plura organizuri. =C2=A0 Iro a la somerala tempo =C2=A0 Kor= diala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-::: --394961386-317942935-1332536722=:9283 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Jean Martign= on, che plura Ido-forumi)
 
Venerdie, ye la 23m= a di marto 2012.
 
Dio di santa Viktorianus.
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / Sajo ne dicas quon lu savas, e st= ulto ne savas quon lu dicas.
 
ZODIAKO / En la z= odiako-signo dil Arieto guvernata dal planeto Marso.
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VETERO / Bela blua cielo sunoza e varmeta temperaturo,= cajorne, en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
 
SRI LANKA / UN/ONU DEMANDAS PLURAPIDIGAR LA RIK= ONCILIO NACIONAL
La rezolvo adoptita hiere dal Konsilantaro pri la yuri homal d= i UN/ONU exhortas Sri Lanka judiciar la facanti di grava violaci dil yuri = homal lor la konflikto kontre la Tigri di liberigo dil Eelam Tamul, d= e 1972 til 2009.
 
GERMANIA / BRUXELLES PERSEQUAS BERLIN PRO LUA FISKALA ARANJU= RI POR LA ENTRAPREZEYI
La Komisiono Europana intencas persequar Germania kora= m la judicio-Korto Europana pro produktir detrimento fiskal ad entraprezey= i. La Germana guvernerio ne profitigabus de lua avantajoza rejimo fiskal e= ntraprezeyi tamen mustanta pagar imposti en ica lando.
 
EUROPA / LA IRO A= L SOMERALA TEMPO EVENTOS DUM LA NOKTO DI SATURDIO TIL SUNDIO
La iro ad somerala= tempo eventos dum sundio 25ma di marto 2012 ye 2 kloki matine. Lo es= os lore 3 kloki. La chanjo dil kloki establisesis en Europa kom konsequo d= il krizo dil petrolo di 1973-1974. Depos 1988, la dati harmoniigesis inter= ne di Europana Uniono. Ita aranjuro tamen kontestesas da plura organizuri= .
 
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Iro a la somerala tempo
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Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::


--394961386-317942935-1332536722=:9283--- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10209 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Voluntez itere admirar nia specal frazo #39, qua= ja tradukesis aden la 17 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua= , Occidental/Interlingue, Neo, Latino sine Flexione, Idiom Neutral, Adjuvil= o, Mondial, LFN, ARIEL, Euralinga, Sambahsa, Sibelingua, LdP, Rapidlingue, = Populido. Esperanto: Neniu respondo. La nekonatulo ripetas sian peton, se= d vane. Ido: Nula respondo. La siorulo ne-konocata repetas sua demando, ma= vane. Interlingua: Nulle responde. Le senior incognite repete su demanda,= sed in van. Occidental/Interlingue: Null response. Li senior =EDnconosset= repetit su demande, ma in van. Neo: Nil rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea = ezigo, mo vane. Latino sine Flexione: Nullo responso. Viro ignoto repete s= uo desiderio, sed in modo vano. Idiom Neutral: Noun respond. Sinioro no-ko= nosed repet sue preg, ma vane. Adjuvilo: Nula respondo. La siro nekonocata= ripetin sua demando, ma vane. Mondial: Nul response. Le senior inconosate= repeta su demande, ma in van. LFN: No responde. La senior nonconoseda rep= ete se esije, ma futil. ARIEL: Nul response. Le senior incognosate repete = su demande, ma in van. Euralinga: Nula r=E9sponde. La sen=E9ro n=EDconos= =E1ta r=E9pete sua peten, seda por nula. Sambahsa: Neid antwehrd. Is negno= hn poti repeteiht sien eiskwen, bet in vain. Sibelingua: Nula respondo. Li= senioro ne-konosata repeta su demando, ma vane. LdP: Jawaba yok. Garibe s= inior repeti suy demanda, bat vanem. Rapidlingue: Nul responde. Le deskogn= oskat senyoro ripeta ilsu demande, pero vanim. Populido: Nul responde. Le = sioro no-konosat repete sui pete, ma vanei. Se vi povas e deziras lo, vol= untez tradukar nia frazo #39 aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Novial, Volap=FCk,= Mondlango/Ulango, Glosa od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas.= (Me pregas vi memorar, ke en nia frazo #39 ne aparas la koncepto "repetar= questiono", ma "repetar demando" [Eo: "ripeti peton"]) Adavane, estimati!= * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10210 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Nu, yo nun pozav li ligile ibe. Li liste de ligiles che = posta_Mundi es mikra. Li grupe de Yahoo "folkspraak" have cirka 40 ligiles = plus kelka ligiles in du subdirektories, in tote semble cirka 60. Li grupe = pri Folkspraak tamen es duople plu olda kam posta_Mundi :) Yen li pajina d= e statistika koncernu vizitanta pajinas del wiki de posta_Mundi: http://pos= tamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Special:PopularPages Yo recente videskav it e admir= av. Yo no expektav tala rezultates. Kelka vizites de kada pajina pova eser = mei propra, omna foyes es kontat, kande on entra un pajina. Negligante to l= i statistika plu-min spegula li realitate, yo krede. Yo admirav dekomense,= ko es ta frzo #31, ke it es tante vizitata? Yo tote obliviav, ha-ha! isto = es li gastronomik fraze kun ilustracies, ki pova pensar? "Medilingua" da fe= lisim retrovenanta James Chandler rega! Yo anke no expektav to. Rosto. --= - En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualeevistandas" esc= ribi=F3: > > Hola, Rosto! > > Nun, kande ni ja posedas nia propra "wikkii"= > dil grupo posta_Mundi, forsan esus oportuna krear > ligilo duktant ad ol= ta, che nia fako "Marcadores" (Ligili), > vice nia tilnuna ligilo ibe, qua = duktas aden "ial.wikia", ka ne? > > http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Chef= _Pajin > > La "wikkii" di posta_Mundi certe plukreskas e plubeleskas. > >= Danko e gratuli pro tua iniciemeso e laboremeso, amiko. > > > P A R T A = K A > * * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10211 Return-Path: X-Sender: svoboda.gabriel@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74354 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2012 10:06:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Mar 2012 10:06:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng18-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.226) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2012 10:06:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.83] by ng18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2012 10:06:03 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by tg3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2012 10:06:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2012 10:06:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:06:01 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "Gabriel Svoboda" Subject: RE: Frazo #39 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=256814494; y=b9EYXCpaQZIicar93ikYtheWRAOAFhHoxKp6NmiFl_R8OKTrEIyPxP-G X-Yahoo-Profile: gabriel_svoboda Nia amiko Partaka forsan uzas l' Ido-definuri di demandar, pregar e postula= r: demandar =3D (tr.) (ulo, ad ulu) savigar ke onu volas havor (ulo) prega= r =3D urjar (ulu) pri ke lu grantez postular =3D postular ulo esas demandar= ulo, a qua on havas yuro; tala demando esas do insistanta, obliganta e kel= ke imperema Do me ne vidas ula difero inter "demandar" e "pregar", ecepte = ke "pregar" povas havar (ma ne sempre havas) anke signifiko religial. In I= diom Neutral existe "pregar" e "demandar", ma ne "postular". Probabilmen "d= emandar" es plu bon, dunc yo consenti con: Idiom Neutral: Noun respond. Si= nioro no-konosed repet sue demand, ma vane. Pri Latino sine Flexione, yo n= e es cert. Un dictionarum latin-anglesi di, que "desiderium" (--> LsF desid= erio) es un parol frequent, durant que altri paroles (postulatum --> LsF po= stulato, postulatio --> LsF postulatione, rogatio --> LsF rogatione, petiti= o --> LsF petitione) es poc usat. Ma ne tam poc quam demandatio (--> LsF de= mandatione), quel es tre rar e ne classic. Summarium: Rosto di, que "desid= erio" es tro moll e proposi "postulato", ma Partaka di, que "postulato" es = tro dur e proposi "demandatione", ma yo di, que "demandatione" es tre rar. = Certmen ne es interdictet usar paroles rar, tamen esque vos, con vor savent= ie de nuancies del vocabularium occidental, posse selecter inter li remanen= t paroles "rogatione" e "petitione"? Linguisticmen Gabriel Svoboda From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10212 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Morto, en la palaco di Richmond,=C2=A0di Elizabeth I, rejino=C2= =A0di Anglia depos 1559. El esis filiino di Henry VIII ed ilua duesma spozi= no Anne Boleyn. Dum elua regno=C2=A0el havis kurtezanti ma el ne esis maria= jata.=C2=A0El savigis, dum la lasta yari,=C2=A0 ke sua kuzulo James VI di= =C2=A0Skotia esez sua sucedanto.=C2=A0James, rejulo di Skotia depos 1567, d= ivenis la unesma rejo di tota Britania. =C2=A0 1721. Johann Sebastian Bach = skribis la dedikado sur la manuskripto=C2=A0di sua Brandenburg-koncerto-pec= i, a Christian Ludwig, Margravo di Brandenburg-Schwedt. Bach pleyabis koram= la Margravo du yari antee, dum exkurso a Berlin por komprar klavikordo, ed= il pose invitabis Bach sendar kelka kompozuri a lu. La sis koncerto-peci, = single=C2=A0kompozita por diferanta ensemblo, sendesis=C2=A0kun la espero k= e la Margravo havos la moyeni utiligar li; tamen, la Margravo ne dankis Bac= h, e ne=C2=A0sendis pago. La manuskripto restis ne-utiligita lor la morto d= i la Margravo. Ol deskovresis en la arkivi di Brandenburg en 1849, e la muz= iko erste pleyesis en la sequanta yaro. =C2=A0 1965. La Usana spaco-probilo= Ranger 9 (lansita ye 21 marto) kolizionis kun la luno. Ol esis la lasta di= 9 probili lansita por fotografar la luno, di qui la unesma 6 faliis funcio= nar, pro lanso-falio o mala funciono di instrumenti. Dum la lasta 19 minuti= di la flugo, Ranger 9 transmisis 5814 imaji di bona qualeso di la proximes= kanta luno,=C2=A0la unesma prenita ye 2363 km=C2=A0de la surfaco, la lasta = ye min kam 1 m.=C2=A0La probilo=C2=A0frapis la kratero Alphonsus, proxim la= centro di la vizajo di la luno. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Kordiale DGW =C2=A0 --1186507116-1831530448-1332589730=:563119 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Ye ca dio= , 24 marto...
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160= 3. Morto, en la palaco di Richmond, di Elizabeth I, rejino di Ang= lia depos 1559. El esis filiino di Henry VIII ed ilua duesma spozino Anne Boleyn. Dum elua regno el h= avis kurtezanti ma el ne esis mariajata. El savigis, dum la lasta yari= ,  ke sua kuzulo James VI di Skotia esez sua sucedanto. Jame= s, rejulo di Skotia depos 1567, divenis la unesma rejo di tota Britania.
 
1721. Johann Sebastian Bach= skribis la dedikado sur la manuskripto di sua Brandenburg-koncerto-pe= ci, a Christian Ludwig, Margravo di Brandenburg-Schwedt. Bach pleyabis kora= m la Margravo du yari antee, dum exkurso a Berlin por komprar klavikordo, e= d il pose invitabis Bach sendar kelka kompozuri a lu. La sis koncerto-peci,= single kompozita por diferanta ensemblo, sendesis kun la espero = ke la Margravo havos la moyeni = utiligar li; tamen, la Margravo ne dankis Bach, e ne sendis pago. La m= anuskripto restis ne-utiligita lor la morto di la Margravo. Ol deskovresis = en la arkivi di Brandenburg en 1849, e la muziko erste pleyesis en la sequa= nta yaro.
 
1965. La Usana spaco-probilo Ranger 9 (lansit= a ye 21 marto) kolizionis kun l= a luno. Ol esis la lasta di 9 probili lansita por fotografar la luno, di qu= i la unesma 6 faliis funcionar, pro lanso-falio o mala funciono di instrume= nti. Dum la lasta 19 minuti di la flugo, Ranger 9 transmisis 5814 imaji di = bona qualeso di la proximeskanta luno, la unesma prenita ye 2363 km&nb= sp;de la surfaco, la lasta ye min kam 1 m. La probilo frapis la k= ratero Alphonsus, proxim la centro di la vizajo di la luno.
 
 Kordiale DGW
 
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--1186507116-1831530448-1332589730=:563119-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10213 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 62374 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2012 12:01:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m13.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Mar 2012 12:01:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng2-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.214.252) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2012 12:01:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.181] by ng2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2012 12:01:36 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by tg6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2012 12:01:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2012 12:01:36 -0000 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:01:33 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Frazo #39 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=hmr748Q44bSeqILjmRbyu-dQI9oAeQpapyEydqtrCu1YT_ojHUUH89kpEnvB X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Mei tre granda, dika, detaloza e autoritatoza olda Latin-Rus vokabulario di= re, ke "demandatio" es rekomendacione, ergo have li sense es tote altra. E= koncernu rara-frekua, yo tale pensa, ke if noi uza Latinik vokabulario por= Latino Sine Flexione, ya LsF es supozat por komunikar kun moderna popule, = e no es importanta, ka un vorte es frekua o rara in klasik uzo de Latina, m= a lo importanta es, eske ista parol es bone konosata internacionale in mode= rna uzo. Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel Svoboda" <= svoboda.gabriel@...> scriv: > > Nia amiko Partaka forsan uzas l' Ido-definu= ri di demandar, pregar e postular: > > demandar =3D (tr.) (ulo, ad ulu) sa= vigar ke onu volas havor (ulo) > pregar =3D urjar (ulu) pri ke lu grantez >= postular =3D postular ulo esas demandar ulo, a qua on havas yuro; tala dem= ando esas do insistanta, obliganta e kelke imperema > > Do me ne vidas ula= difero inter "demandar" e "pregar", ecepte ke "pregar" povas havar (ma ne = sempre havas) anke signifiko religial. > > In Idiom Neutral existe "pregar= " e "demandar", ma ne "postular". Probabilmen "demandar" es plu bon, dunc y= o consenti con: > > Idiom Neutral: > Noun respond. Sinioro no-konosed repe= t sue demand, ma vane. > > Pri Latino sine Flexione, yo ne es cert. Un dic= tionarum latin-anglesi di, que "desiderium" (--> LsF desiderio) es un parol= frequent, durant que altri paroles (postulatum --> LsF postulato, postulat= io --> LsF postulatione, rogatio --> LsF rogatione, petitio --> LsF petitio= ne) es poc usat. Ma ne tam poc quam demandatio (--> LsF demandatione), quel= es tre rar e ne classic. > > Summarium: Rosto di, que "desiderio" es tro = moll e proposi "postulato", ma Partaka di, que "postulato" es tro dur e pro= posi "demandatione", ma yo di, que "demandatione" es tre rar. Certmen ne es= interdictet usar paroles rar, tamen esque vos, con vor saventie de nuancie= s del vocabularium occidental, posse selecter inter li remanent paroles "ro= gatione" e "petitione"? > > Linguisticmen > Gabriel Svoboda > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10214 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4544 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2012 13:14:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Mar 2012 13:14:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng2-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.164.141) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2012 13:14:29 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.125] by ng2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2012 13:14:29 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by tg6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2012 13:14:29 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2012 13:14:29 -0000 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 13:14:28 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: Bazal (mil radik) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=d4636Gd1Tb4RqPlxrNCtjsVlZ49uYJDTf0tEHBenxC1-GwH0NTZpHxY X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Salut, kompans! Klar es, ke helpe-ling kual Bazal (od irg altri), kel aber= ay no plus kam mil radik, no pove abe omni tici verbe: pete, demande, solic= ite, prege, kestione; do: ka vus selektere du verbe o nur un por omni to? S= e du o se nur un: kels o kel verbe vus preferere? Pro ko? (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10215 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Segun me, on pregas (Deo od = irg altru) polite, afable, ma ne despolite e desafable, quale nia ne-konoca= ta siorulo, ilqua, pluse, ne darfas postular, nam, ca-kaze, il ne yurizesas= . Se tu havas nula objeciono, me skribos "demand" en Idiom Neutral, e "pet= itione" en Latino sine Flexione", quoniam preske omna tradukuri uzas la ver= bi "demandar" e "peti". Felica seman-fino, amiko! * * * * * * * * p a r= t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel Sv= oboda" skribis: Nia amiko Partaka forsan uzas l' Ido= -definuri di demandar, pregar e postularr: demandar =3D (tr.) (ulo, ad ulu= ) savigar ke onu volas havor (ulo) pregar =3D urjar (ulu) pri ke lu grantez= postular =3D postular ulo esas demandar ulo, a qua on havas yuro; tala dem= ando esas do insistanta, obliganta e kelke imperema Do me ne vidas ula di= fero inter "demandar" e "pregar", ecepte ke "pregar" povas havar (ma ne sem= pre havas) anke signifiko religial. In Idiom Neutral existe "pregar" e "d= emandar", ma ne "postular". Probabilmen "demandar" es plu bon, dunc yo cons= enti con: Idiom Neutral: Noun respond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue deman= d, ma vane. Pri Latino sine Flexione, yo ne es cert. Un dictionarum latin= -anglesi di, que "desiderium" (--> LsF ddesiderio) es un parol frequent, dur= ant que altri paroles (postulatum --> LsF postulato, postulatio --> LsF pos= tulatione, rogatio --> LsF rogatione, petitio --> LsF petitione) es poc usa= t. Ma ne tam poc quam demandatio (--> LsF demandatione), quel es tre rar e = ne classic. Summarium: Rosto di, que "desiderio" es tro moll e proposi "p= ostulato", ma Partaka di, que "postulato" es tro dur e proposi "demandation= e", ma yo di, que "demandatione" es tre rar. Certmen ne es interdictet usar= paroles rar, tamen esque vos, con vor saventie de nuancies del vocabulariu= m occidental, posse selecter inter li remanent paroles "rogatione" e "petit= ione"? Linguisticmen Gabriel Svoboda From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10216 Return-Path: X-Sender: svoboda.gabriel@... 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Kuankam, semble alki e= x idistes uzav verbe *preyar, o forsan yo erora. Reverenda Rosto. --- = In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" scriv: > > = > Segun me, on pregas (Deo od irg altru) polite, afable, From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10218 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 47704 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2012 01:50:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2012 01:50:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng11-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.135) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2012 01:50:57 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.84] by ng11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2012 01:50:52 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by tg4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2012 01:50:52 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.119] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2012 01:50:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 01:50:52 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: [p_M] La "wikkii" di posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=QDpKwQ-Mu56VlP89RVd-sPk7CMDw3p5AHMnc2KMoaDEqwyZaiQ0XUQM X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Kara Rosto: Kad esus posibla tradukar aden Sibelingua (Neutra) omno aparan= ta en la pagino "Recenta chanji" di nia "wikkii", tal qual to prizentesas, = exemple, en la Ido-wikivortaro? Esus ya grava tradukar e neutrigar tal pagi= no, quale anke la tota tituli e kontenaji dil fako "Spesial pajinas", ka ne= ? http://io.wiktionary.org/wiki/Specala:RecentaChanji Juez maxim bona sun= dio! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@...= m, "Rosto" skribis: Yo erorim supozav, ke ista = ligile ja es ibe, in altra kaze yo vud ja longe anteim adjunta it. Nu, yo n= un pozav li ligile ibe. Li liste de ligiles che posta_Mundi es mikra. Li g= rupe de Yahoo "folkspraak" have cirka 40 ligiles plus kelka ligiles in du s= ubdirektories, in tote semble cirka 60. Li grupe pri Folkspraak tamen es du= ople plu olda kam posta_Mundi :) Yen li pajina de statistika koncernu viz= itanta pajinas del wiki de posta_Mundi: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/S= pecial:PopularPages Yo recente videskav it e admirav. Yo no expektav tala = rezultates. Kelka vizites de kada pajina pova eser mei propra, omna foyes e= s kontat, kande on entra un pajina. Negligante to li statistika plu-min spe= gula li realitate, yo krede. Yo admirav dekomense, ko es ta frzo #31, ke = it es tante vizitata? Yo tote obliviav, ha-ha! isto es li gastronomik fraze= kun ilustracies, ki pova pensar? "Medilingua" da felisim retrovenanta Jame= s Chandler rega! Yo anke no expektav to. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yaho= ogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: Hola, Rosto! = Nun, kande ni ja posedas nia propra "wikkii" dil grupo posta_Mundi, forsa= n esus oportuna krear ligilo duktant ad olta, che nia fako "Marcadores" (Li= gili), vice nia tilnuna ligilo ibe, qua duktas aden "ial.wikia", ka ne? h= ttp://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Chef_Pajin La "wikkii" di posta_Mundi ce= rte plukreskas e plubeleskas. Danko e gratuli pro tua iniciemeso e labore= meso, amiko. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10220 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Teknikale isto es posibla, tradukar omna o preske om= na servanta skribaciones. Tradukar nur ta skribaciones uzata in "recenta ch= anji" es facila, ma tradukar omno - forsan if vi antropes no tushav li tema= , vi no imagina, kuanta labore isto es. Semblanta es exemplim ke un arbore = have ne tre multa branches, e kada branche have ne tre multa folies, ma in = tote li arbore have multega folies. Wiki es admirinda teknologia kel have m= ultega detalies, ma anke multega posiblitates. Yo forsan alkande partraduka= ra li omno, ma no promisa, ke isto esera rapida e balda. E anke yo pensa, = ke isto no es maxim bona decido, tradukar li omna to a Sibelingua, ka neutr= a, nek a Lingua de Fantomas, nek a "Mundi" nek "version intermedie", nek "u= n mixage neutral". Yo pensav uzar chini ideogrames, ma semble to anke no es= apta. Piktures no es subtenat da wiki-sistema por ista skope. Yen un ofre:= far ube to es posibla skritures in Rosa-stile, exemplim: Lektar: 0_0 Edite= r (chanjar, kambiar, far mutacione...): +/- o alko simila. Li teknologia = wiki es kreat speciale por kunlaboro komuna, por ke diversa opiniones pova = kunexister e komplimentar un altra, e yen kuale interlinguistes uza it. Ili= fare multopla labore, ili traduka omna servanta (multega) skribaciones yen= a Esperanto, yen a Ido, yen a Occidental, etc., farante multopla labore, d= isipante tempe e resurses antropi. Pose ili skribe sama kozes in diversa IA= Les multfoye repetante, asertante samtempe, ke li idea de komuna neutrala l= ingua es por ekonomiar tempe e laboro. Ya, eterna paradoxe e ironia de inte= rlinguistika! Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistanda= s" escribi=F3: > > Kara Rosto: > > Kad esus posibla t= radukar aden Sibelingua (Neutra) > omno aparanta en la pagino "Recenta chan= ji" di nia "wikkii", > tal qual to prizentesas, exemple, en la Ido-wikivort= aro? > Esus ya grava tradukar e neutrigar tal pagino, quale anke > la tota = tituli e kontenaji dil fako "Spesial pajinas", ka ne? > > http://xxxxxxxxx= xxxxx > > Juez maxim bona sundio! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * = * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10221 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71698 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2012 11:00:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2012 11:00:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng10-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.122) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2012 11:00:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.87] by ng10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2012 11:00:40 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by tg7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2012 11:00:40 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.155] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2012 11:00:40 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:00:38 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #39 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=XlmJjhe1gJN28heNH8vGmbjZxXoeMPju6TEH4DN6yGpNxVucFXz5ih4 X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: Voluntez ankor-foye atencar nia specal fr= azo #39, qua ja tradukesis aden la 17 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido,= Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Neo, Latino sine Flexione, Idiom Neut= ral, Adjuvilo, Mondial, LFN, ARIEL, Euralinga, Sambahsa, Sibelingua, LdP, R= apidlingue, Populido. Esperanto: Neniu respondo. La nekonatulo ripetas si= an peton, sed vane. Ido: Nula respondo. La siorulo ne-konocata repetas sua= demando, ma vane. Interlingua: Nulle responde. Le senior incognite repete= su demanda, sed in van. Occidental/Interlingue: Null response. Li senior = =EDnconosset repetit su demande, ma in van. Neo: Nil rispo. Lo nokonat sir= o ripar lea ezigo, mo vane. Latino sine Flexione: Nullo responso. Viro ign= oto repete suo petitione, sed in modo vano. Idiom Neutral: Noun respond. S= inioro no-konosed repet sue demand, ma vane. Adjuvilo: Nula respondo. La s= iro nekonocata ripetin sua demando, ma vane. Mondial: Nul response. Le sen= ior inconosate repeta su demande, ma in van. LFN: No responde. La senior n= onconoseda repete se esije, ma futil. ARIEL: Nul response. Le senior incog= nosate repete su demande, ma in van. Euralinga: Nula r=E9sponde. La sen=E9= ro n=EDconos=E1ta r=E9pete sua peten, seda por nula. Sambahsa: Neid antweh= rd. Is negnohn poti repeteiht sien eiskwen, bet in vain. Sibelingua: Nula = respondo. Li senioro ne-konosata repeta su demando, ma vane. LdP: Jawaba y= ok. Garibe sinior repeti suy demanda, bat vanem. Rapidlingue: Nul responde= . Le deskognoskat senyoro ripeta ilsu demande, pero vanim. Populido: Nul r= esponde. Le sioro no-konosat repete sui pete, ma vanei. Se vi povas e dez= iras lo, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #39 aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Novial= , Volap=FCk, Mondlango/Ulango, Glosa od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, quin= vi konocas. (Me pregas vi memorar, ke en nia frazo #39 ne aparas la konce= pto "repetar questiono", ma "repetar demando" [Eo: "ripeti peton"]) Danko = pro via kunlaboro. * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10222 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 82580 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2012 12:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2012 12:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng8-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.96) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2012 12:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.81] by ng8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2012 12:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by tg10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2012 12:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2012 12:10:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:10:33 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: [p_M] La "wikkii" di posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=GF-gs7ZRwRd6XVbXzial--M0jElgZVyeoBUdBnB-7EW0hIB8JAMrZfE X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Saluto, Rosto! Me ya konkordas kun tu, ke uzar simboli Rosa-stile che nia = "wikkii" povas esar amuzanta e mem efikiva; tamen, to esus posibla, admaxim= e, por kelka tituli, ma ne por omna texti. Me demandis de tu tradukar omno = aden Sibelingua, pro ke me konjektas, ke ol es la neutra helpo-linguo, qua= n tu uzis til nun ibe, e me ja dicis plura-foye, ke Sibelingua havas la gra= nd avantajo bazesar sur la tota ENIONI-lingui (Esperanto, Neutral, Ido, Oc= cidental, Novial, Interlingua), do ol es la maxim bona selektajo, sempre ke= ol restos, plu o min, tal qual ol es nun: sen personaligo exter ENIONI. Al= tra-latere, tu esas la kurajoza e laborema inicianto (ed unika laboranto ti= lnuna) dil "wikkii" di posta_Mundi, e semblas a me yusta, ke tu agez tam ko= mfortoze kam posibla. Kurajo ed adavane, kamarado! P A R T A K A * * * = * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribis: Hola, Partaka e omnes! Teknikale isto es posibla, tra= dukar omna o preske omna servanta skribaciones. Tradukar nur ta skribacione= s uzata in "recenta chanji" es facila, ma tradukar omno - forsan if vi antr= opes no tushav li tema, vi no imagina, kuanta labore isto es. Semblanta es = exemplim ke un arbore have ne tre multa branches, e kada branche have ne tr= e multa folies, ma in tote li arbore have multega folies. Wiki es admirinda= teknologia kel have multega detalies, ma anke multega posiblitates. Yo for= san alkande partradukara li omno, ma no promisa, ke isto esera rapida e bal= da. E anke yo pensa, ke isto no es maxim bona decido, tradukar li omna to= a Sibelingua, ka neutra, nek a Lingua de Fantomas, nek a "Mundi" nek "vers= ion intermedie", nek "un mixage neutral". Yo pensav uzar chini ideogrames, = ma semble to anke no es apta. Piktures no es subtenat da wiki-sistema por i= sta skope. Yen un ofre: far ube to es posibla skritures in Rosa-stile, exem= plim: Lektar: 0_0 Editer (chanjar, kambiar, far mutacione...): +/- o alko s= imila. Li teknologia wiki es kreat speciale por kunlaboro komuna, por ke= diversa opiniones pova kunexister e komplimentar un altra, e yen kuale int= erlinguistes uza it. Ili fare multopla labore, ili traduka omna servanta (m= ultega) skribaciones yen a Esperanto, yen a Ido, yen a Occidental, etc., fa= rante multopla labore, disipante tempe e resurses antropi. Pose ili skribe = sama kozes in diversa IALes multfoye repetante, asertante samtempe, ke li i= dea de komuna neutrala lingua es por ekonomiar tempe e laboro. Ya, eterna p= aradoxe e ironia de interlinguistika! Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10223 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Me proberay bezone nur un verbe por "pete= , demande, solicite, prege, suplike" e mem "kestione". Se me bezoneray du v= erbe, tal plusi verbe eseray "kestione". Se nur un verbe, me dubte ka "dema= nde" o ka "pete", ma, provizorei, me komenseray uze l' verbe "pete", nam ol= es kurt e konosat. (Partaka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qua= levistandas" skribay: Salut, kompans! Klar es, ke h= elpe-ling kual Bazal (od irg altri), kel aberay no plus kam mil radik, no p= ove abe omni tici verbe: pete, demande, solicite, prege, kestione; do: ka v= us selektere du verbe o nur un por omni to? Se du o se nur un: kels o kel v= erbe vus preferere? Pro ko? (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10226 Return-Path: X-Sender: svoboda.gabriel@... 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LINGU Idiom Neutral S= ON http://www.box.com/s/df5506dc8c80ea85b712 AKSENTUASION turk SUB-MUSIK Ar= aya Araya per Hammamizade =C4=B0smail Dede Efendi (Turkia) ADRES http://nun= tios.blogspot.com/2012/03/2012-03-23.html From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10227 Return-Path: X-Sender: valodnieks@... 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Li Yahoo gruppe de Interlingue-Occid= ental esset tre passiv durante li recent mensus. Yo ha creat un nov gruppe= de Occidental-Interlingue che li popular social retage Facebook por nor li= ngue sub li n=F3mine Interlingue-Occidental. Li old gruppe de Occidental n= e esset plus activ e me ne havet jures administrativ in ti gruppe. Yo espe= ra que li nov gruppe de Occidental che Facebook va devenir un nov centre de= activit=E1 por Occidental-Interlingue. Yo invita chascun membre de ti Yah= oo-gruppe partiprender in li nov gruppe che Facebook. Ci es li adresse del= gruppe che Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/groups/403123056383240/ Amic= almen Thomas From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10228 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Me ipsa korektigis mikrajo en "P M Eta Literatura 200= 6", ma to esis advere nula fatiganta laboro, ma kontree :-) Altra-latere, = me montris a tu la pagino "Recenta chanji" dil Ido-wikivortaro ne nur pri o= lua texto fixigita, olqua certe tradukesis aden Ido, ma anke pri olua texto= automata (por exemplo: "Pagino kreesis kun..."), olqua aparas singla-foye,= kande adjuntesas novajo... Se posibla, oportus tradukar aden Neutra tal a= utomata texto/texti. Danko, predanko e til nexta komuniko! P A R T A K A= * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribis: Segun ver, yo no es unika laboranto de postamundi= .wikkii Inskribata kunlaborantes es du, vide: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/= wiki/Special:ListUsers E anke inkognito persones korektiv pajines pri Omnia= l e "P M Eta Literatura 2006" Rosto. > --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups= .com, "qualevistandas" scriv: > > Saluto, Rosto! > tu = esas ... > (ed unika laboranto tilnuna) dil "wikkii" di posta_Mundi, > e se= mblas a me yusta, ke tu agez tam komfortoze kam posibla. > > Kurajo ed ad= avane, kamarado! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10229 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Ta mesajes che "recenta chanji" de Ido-wikivortaro, kel no es a= utomatik, trakta vortes in diversa nacional linguas kun traduko de ta vorte= s a Ido :( Wiki have in tote plu kam 3000 (3 mil) diversa automatik mesaje= s! Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > Ho, yes, kara Rosto! > > Me ipsa korektigis mi= krajo en "P M Eta Literatura 2006", > ma to esis advere nula fatiganta labo= ro, ma kontree :-) > > Altra-latere, me montris a tu la pagino "Recenta ch= anji" > dil Ido-wikivortaro ne nur pri olua texto fixigita, olqua > certe t= radukesis aden Ido, ma anke pri olua texto automata > (por exemplo: "Pagino= kreesis kun..."), olqua aparas singla-foye, > kande adjuntesas novajo... = > Se posibla, oportus tradukar aden Neutra tal automata texto/texti. > > D= anko, predanko e til nexta komuniko! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * = * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "Rosto" skribis: > > Segun ver, yo no es unika laboranto de postamundi.wikkii = > Inskribata kunlaborantes es du, vide: > http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki= /Special:ListUsers > E anke inkognito persones korektiv pajines pri Omnial = e "P M Eta Literatura 2006" > > Rosto. > > > > --- In posta_Mundi@yah= oogroups.com, > "qualevistandas" scriv: > > > > Saluto,= Rosto! > > > tu esas ... > > (ed unika laboranto tilnuna) dil "wikkii" di= posta_Mundi, > > e semblas a me yusta, ke tu agez tam komfortoze kam posib= la. > > > > Kurajo ed adavane, kamarado! > > > > > > P A R T A K A > > = * * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10231 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Yo askolta fabeles e krede... til ipsa kontrola. Yo nun spektav= li pajina "Speciala Pagini" che Idala wiki-vortaro, yen ke 26 (dudek sis) = titoles es in li lingua Angli. E ya, interne anke multo no es tradukat. Yo = tande spektav li pajina "Omna sistemo-mesji". Wah-wah! nur mikrega parte es= tradukata a Ido. Es desfacila kontar, ma yo have tala sento, ke yo traduka= v plu multa sistemi mesajes che postamundi.wikkii, kam es tradukata che ida= la wiki-vortaro. Ya, tu, Partaka, talentoza agente reklami, pova demonstrar= kozes de plu bon-aspektanta latere. Segun ver, nur por pajina "Recenta mes= aji", nu, forsan por kelka plus pajinas, sistemi mesajes es komplete traduk= at ibe, che idala wiki-vortaro. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10232 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 50513 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2012 18:01:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Mar 2012 18:01:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng7-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.83) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2012 18:01:07 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.85] by ng7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Mar 2012 18:00:42 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by tg5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Mar 2012 18:00:42 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Mar 2012 18:00:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:00:41 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: [p_M] La "wikkii" di posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=oP07vI7HT1hudkbiZUS4OOhfY5AagcqOKNdsRzSpwgALa_ymC9fPB9I X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Bona vespero, Rosto! Voluntez atencar, e tu quik parkomprenos mea intenco!= 1. Me prizentis a tu la pagino "Recenta chanji" dil Ido-wikivortaro ne k= om plena e perfekta modelo pri tradukado Angla-Ido, ma nur por montrar a tu= plura kozi, quin on ja tradukabis aden Ido ibe, ma qui ne ja tradukesabis = en la "wikkii" di posta_Mundi, do por saveskar ka anke ni povus tradukar ol= i. 2. Kande me skribis "texto fixigita", me probis referar a to omna, quo = aparas Angla-lingue dekomence, kontre ke per "texto" automata", me referas = ad omna texto aparanta (anke Angla-lingue), ma nur pos publikigar irga nova= ji, e me mencionis kom exemplo: "Kreesis pagino kun...". Irga-kaze, me vol= unte povis konstatar, ke tu tre bone komprenis, nam tu ja agis maxim dilige= nte ta-relate: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges Da= nko e gratuli pro tua diligenteso, amiko. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * *= --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" = skribis: Ya, yo komprenev, ke li tema es pri automatik mesajes, eske altr= a variantes pova eser? Ta mesajes che "recenta chanji" de Ido-wikivortaro, = kel no es automatik, trakta vortes in diversa nacional linguas kun traduko = de ta vortes a Ido :( Wiki have in tote plu kam 3000 (3 mil) diversa auto= matik mesajes! Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevist= andas" escribi=F3: Ho, yes, kara Rosto! Me ipsa korekti= gis mikrajo en "P M Eta Literatura 2006", ma to esis advere nula fatiganta = laboro, ma kontree :-) Altra-latere, me montris a tu la pagino "Recenta c= hanji" dil Ido-wikivortaro ne nur pri olua texto fixigita, olqua certe trad= ukesis aden Ido, ma anke pri olua texto automata (por exemplo: "Pagino kree= sis kun..."), olqua aparas singla-foye, kande adjuntesas novajo... Se posi= bla, oportus tradukar aden Neutra tal automata texto/texti. Danko, predan= ko e til nexta komuniko! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10233 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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La inquesto entraprezita carelate revelis ke la Pakistanana trupi= komencis pafar kontre olti di NATO/OTAN kom le unesma. La trupi di NATO/O= TAN konseque esis en stando di yurizita defenso. =C2=A0 VENEZUELA / CHAVEZ= KOMENCIS SUBISAR LUA RADIOTERAPIO La prezidanto Venezuelana, Hugo Chavez= , evanta 57 yari, anuncis dum la sundio pasinta, ke il komencabis subisar = medikala kunsidi por radioterapio kontre kancero en Kuba. Il povus renkont= rar ibe papo Benediktus XVI, ilqua vartesis lundie sur ita insulo. =C2=A0 = USA / SANTORUM VINKAS LOR LA PRE-ELEKTO DI LOUISIANA La konservemega Rick = Santorum vinkis, dum saturdio pasinta, koncerne la pre-elekto republikana = di Louisiana, tale acelerante lua kampanio opoze a Mitt Romney, qua tamen = restas preferata kandidato por afrontar Barack Obama dum novembro. =C2=A0= Rick Santorum =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-::: =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 --1332934599-1547836248-1332790700=:190339 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Lundie, ye la 26ma = di marto 2012.
 
Dio di santa Larissa.
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / Perucho esas verda irgaloke.
 
ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil Arieto guvernat= a dal planeto Marso.
 
VETERO / Va= rma e sunoza vetero printempal, cajorne, en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
 
PAKISTAN  / NULA PUNISO PRO= LA  MORTO DI 24 SOLDATI PAKISTANANA
La Usana autoritatozi punisos nulu de= lia soldati pro la morto di 24 militisti Pakistanana dum novembro 2011. L= a inquesto entraprezita carelate revelis ke la Pakistanana trupi komencis = pafar kontre olti di NATO/OTAN kom le unesma. La trupi di NATO/OTAN konseq= ue esis en stando di yurizita defenso.
 
VENEZUELA / CHAVEZ KOMENCIS SUBISAR L= UA RADIOTERAPIO
La prezidanto Venezuelana, Hugo Chavez, evanta 57 yari, anuncis= dum la sundio pasinta, ke il komencabis subisar medikala kunsidi por radi= oterapio kontre kancero en Kuba.
Il povus renkontrar ibe papo Benediktus XVI,= ilqua vartesis lundie sur ita insulo.
 
USA / SANTORUM VINKAS LOR LA PRE-ELEK= TO DI LOUISIANA
La konservemega Rick Santorum vinkis, dum saturdio pasinta, kon= cerne la pre-elekto republikana di Louisiana, tale acelerante lua kampanio= opoze a Mitt Romney, qua tamen restas preferata kandidato por afrontar Ba= rack Obama dum novembro.
 
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Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni= . JM :::-:::
 
 
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=mkMNv3I-GtNSJ5oMRmtFfXDl4UfbEz-Gv3-GzTPBHu52q1s X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------12814815C1174AF96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Omna korektiguri linguala bonvenesas!) Ni manjez realiste en pladi ex o= ro. Kordiala saluti. Aparante, la titulo de ica esajo esas demagogio qua= le altra frazi, ya demagogiala, ex la pseudo-revoluciono Franca lor la jaro= 1968. Me aludas a frazi quale "Ni esez realista, ni demandez la neposiblaj= o." o "Sub la stradi trovesas la plajo.". Ma ico ne esas la kazo. La frazo= kom titulo esas serioza. Ica frazo celas korektigar la tipa manko de reali= smo en la etiko tradicionala, precipue pri ekonomio. La ekonomio da la etik= o tradicionala esis neposibla, do absurda. Ma mem se me ne radotas, probab= le on demandos a me: quale ni povas manjar fizike en pladi ex oro? La resp= ondo realista esas ke en nia planeto existas bilioni da kilogrami ex oro, e= xemple che la mari. La cienco ne povas ankore extraktar komplete ica oro, m= a la progreso extraktiva kontinuesas, do multa homi ja povas manjar en un p= lado ex oro, e la altra homi ja povas manjar en un plado o plura pladi ex a= rjento, platino, perlomatro, rubino, diamanto, ambro e cetere; yen, per mat= erii nobla, precoza, ne toxika e bela. Ni omna ja povas manjar en pladi lux= ala kun longa durado e alta qualeso. Ito, do, esas posibla cience e teknik= e... ma ne praktike. Unesme, nam la ekonomio hodie, sive kapitalista sive = komunista, ne aceptas produkti tre bona e tre durebla. Mem produkto tre che= ra, ma tre bona e tre durebla, esas generale chipa por la kompranto. Ma, se= la vendanto nur povos vendar un produkto tala a sua kliento dum la vivo de= sua kliento... generale, yen la ruino por la vendanto o kapitalisto. E se = la produkto mem esas uzebla pos la morto de la kliento... me ne bezonas des= kriptar la katastrofo ekonomiala. Tala katastrofo esas la sama por la kapit= alisti Usana e por la komunisti Chinana; oli ne povus vendar kontinue sua p= rodukti. Che la ekonomio de hodie, la quanteso esas la suprega valoro, e ta= la quanteso destruktas la qualeso. Ed ico ne esas la unika problemo. La ti= pa idealo sociala, sive komunista sive kapitalista, esas la idealo da la tr= iumfanti. Ne nur che la futbalo, ma anke, e precipue, che la ekonomio e la = politiko. Nulu volas, por su ipsa o por sua filii, esar garsono, chambristo= , policisto, ministo o fontenisto. Ya, retorike, kelka policisti o ministi = dicas ke yen triumfo se olua filii esas anke policisti o ministi; ma yen nu= r retoriko. La filii de homi tre rika nultempe esas policisti o ministi. Ne= existas triumfo sociala en tala profesioni, do oli evitesas sempre kande o= n povas evitar oli. La konsumo esas altra aspekto de la triumfo. Se en un n= aciono ja omna homi povas manjar terpomi e han-yuno, yen bona afero por omn= i (poka nacioni, aktuale, eliminis la hungro kronika) ma rapide la triumfan= ti volos luxo sur la manjo-tablo: frukti exotika, perdriki, fleto ex bov-yu= nino, ostri, kaviaro, e cetere. Por kolektar (e por kolektar quik) tala ali= menti luxoza, la produktanti e vendanti freque eliminas la produkturo ex al= imenti plu chipa quale la terpomo, o kontaminas la mari ed extingas la truf= li, la sturgi ed altra precoza animali o planta manjebla. Ma la fleto ex bo= v-yunino (ne bezonata por bona alimentado) donas plu triumfo sociala e plu = pekunio a la vendanti o produktanti kam la terpomo o la kuniklo. Ico, ne ci= tonte la abuzi che la nutrado de la bov-yunini por produktar plu rapide e p= lu chipe, abuzi qua ja efektigis morti inter la konsumanti de bov-yunino, k= om che la famoza krizo pri la "bov-yunini fola" de Anglia. La problemo esa= s, nemediate, ekonomiala e politikala. Ma ica problemo, mediate e plu profu= nde, esas problemo antropologiala, etikala e filozofiala. Nia mondo ne pov= as funcionar sen garsoni, chambristi, policisti, ministi e fontenisti. Ma n= ulu (o quaze nulu) volas laborar en tala profesioni, do nur la homi povra l= aboros tale... ed oli esos desprizata da la arkitekti, futbalisti o bicikli= sti profesiona, judikisti, granda aktori o granda kantisti, bankisti, pilot= isti de aeronavi, mediki, katedro-profesori ed altra profesioni prestijoza = e tipe pekunioza. Nia mondo ne povas vivar (yen, manjar) substitucante la = kultivado de frumento e terpomo per la kultivo de kakao, nek la brutar-prod= uktado de hani per la brutar-produktado de struchi. Nia mondo ne povas dur= ar kun la skemo de produkti masiva, chipa ma efemera, balde substitucata da= nova produkti simila. Ito, kun la necese sempre plu kreskanta quanteso da = konsumanti e klienti, do da habitanti, destruktas la biosfero*. E sen la bi= osfero nulu vivos. Me, do, komencis per sarkasmo... cience realigebla: ke = ni manjez en pladi ex oro. Ica sarkasmo, evidente, signifikas ke ni povas (= e devas, e mustas) preparar un sistemo ekonomiala e politikala durebla. Ni = devas direktar la tempo, vice direktesar da la tempo. La homo reale rika n= e esas rika pro havar oro. La homo reale rika esas rika pro havar tempo. Se= la homi havas tempo, yen, se oli ne plu esos sklavi de omna singla instant= o, oli manjos sive en pladi ex oro sive en pladi ex argilo bakita, ma oli o= mna manjos sen hungro kronika. Do oli esos rika ed oli esos racionoza, nam = oli esos la kontrolanti de sua tempo, ne la kontrolati da sua tempo. Yen, = do, mea konkluzuro: ke la etiko autentika, kun ekonomio (e politiko) realis= ta, komencas per la kontrolo progresiva da omnu a sua tempo de vivo. La bon= a etiko komencas kande la homo kontrolas progresive la tempo de sua vivo. K= ande lu klare separas la aferi serioza ex la aferi banala. Ma multa homi a= nkore deziras manjar en pladi ex oro, ka ne? Amike, Aleshandre Shavier Kas= anova Domingo, posto elektronikala trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo = punto es). ------------12814815C1174AF96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ni manjez realiste che pladuri ex oro.

       (Omna korektiguri linguala bonvenesas!)


       Ni manjez realiste en pl= adi ex oro.


=

       Kordiala = saluti.

    &nbs= p;  Aparante, la titulo de ica esajo esas demagogio quale altra frazi,= ya demagogiala, ex la pseudo-revoluciono Franca lor la jaro 1968. Me aluda= s a frazi quale "Ni esez realista, ni demandez la neposiblajo." o "Sub la s= tradi trovesas la plajo.".

=        Ma ico ne esas la kazo. La frazo kom titulo esa= s serioza. Ica frazo celas korektigar la tipa manko de realismo en la etiko= tradicionala, precipue pri ekonomio. La ekonomio da la etiko tradicionala = esis neposibla, do absurda.

       Ma mem se me ne radotas, probable on demandos = a me: quale ni povas manjar fizike en pladi ex oro?

       La respondo realista e= sas ke en nia planeto existas bilioni da kilogrami ex oro, exemple che la m= ari. La cienco ne povas ankore extraktar komplete ica oro, ma la progreso e= xtraktiva kontinuesas, do multa homi ja povas manjar en un plado ex oro, e = la altra homi ja povas manjar en un plado o plura pladi ex arjento, platino= , perlomatro, rubino, diamanto, ambro e cetere; yen, per materii nobla, pre= coza, ne toxika e bela. Ni omna ja povas manjar en pladi luxala kun longa d= urado e alta qualeso.

&nbs= p;      Ito, do, esas posibla cience e teknike... ma ne prak= tike.

     =  Unesme, nam la ekonomio hodie, sive kapitalista sive komunista, ne a= ceptas produkti tre bona e tre durebla. Mem produkto tre chera, ma tre bona= e tre durebla, esas generale chipa por la kompranto. Ma, se la vendanto nu= r povos vendar un produkto tala a sua kliento dum la vivo de sua kliento...= generale, yen la ruino por la vendanto o kapitalisto. E se la produkto mem= esas uzebla pos la morto de la kliento... me ne bezonas deskriptar la kata= strofo ekonomiala. Tala katastrofo esas la sama por la kapitalisti Usana e = por la komunisti Chinana; oli ne povus vendar kontinue sua produkti. Che la= ekonomio de hodie, la quanteso esas la suprega valoro, e tala quanteso des= truktas la qualeso.

 =      Ed ico ne esas la unika problemo. La tipa idealo socia= la, sive komunista sive kapitalista, esas la idealo da la triumfanti. Ne nu= r che la futbalo, ma anke, e precipue, che la ekonomio e la politiko. Nulu = volas, por su ipsa o por sua filii, esar garsono, chambristo, policisto, mi= nisto o fontenisto. Ya, retorike, kelka policisti o ministi dicas ke yen tr= iumfo se olua filii esas anke policisti o ministi; ma yen nur retoriko. La = filii de homi tre rika nultempe esas policisti o ministi. Ne existas triumf= o sociala en tala profesioni, do oli evitesas sempre kande on povas evitar = oli. La konsumo esas altra aspekto de la triumfo. Se en un naciono ja omna = homi povas manjar terpomi e han-yuno, yen bona afero por omni (poka nacioni= , aktuale, eliminis la hungro kronika) ma rapide la triumfanti volos luxo s= ur la manjo-tablo: frukti exotika, perdriki, fleto ex bov-yunino, ostri, ka= viaro, e cetere. Por kolektar (e por kolektar quik) tala alimenti luxoza, l= a produktanti e vendanti freque eliminas la produkturo ex alimenti plu chip= a quale la terpomo, o kontaminas la mari ed extingas la trufli, la sturgi e= d altra precoza animali o planta manjebla. Ma la fleto ex bov-yunino (ne be= zonata por bona alimentado) donas plu triumfo sociala e plu pekunio a la ve= ndanti o produktanti kam la terpomo o la kuniklo. Ico, ne citonte la abuzi = che la nutrado de la bov-yunini por produktar plu rapide e plu chipe, abuzi= qua ja efektigis morti inter la konsumanti de bov-yunino, kom che la famoz= a krizo pri la "bov-yunini fola" de Anglia.

       La problemo esas, nemediate, e= konomiala e politikala. Ma ica problemo, mediate e plu profunde, esas probl= emo antropologiala, etikala e filozofiala.

       Nia mondo ne povas funcionar se= n garsoni, chambristi, policisti, ministi e fontenisti. Ma nulu (o quaze nu= lu) volas laborar en tala profesioni, do nur la homi povra laboros tale... = ed oli esos desprizata da la arkitekti, futbalisti o biciklisti profesiona,= judikisti, granda aktori o granda kantisti, bankisti, pilotisti de aeronav= i, mediki, katedro-profesori ed altra profesioni prestijoza e tipe pekunioz= a.

      &n= bsp;Nia mondo ne povas vivar (yen, manjar) substitucante la kultivado de fr= umento e terpomo per la kultivo de kakao, nek la brutar-produktado de hani = per la brutar-produktado de struchi.

       Nia mondo ne povas durar kun la skemo= de produkti masiva, chipa ma efemera, balde substitucata da nova produkti = simila. Ito, kun la necese sempre plu kreskanta quanteso da konsumanti e kl= ienti, do da habitanti, destruktas la biosfero*. E sen la biosfero nulu viv= os.

      &= nbsp;Me, do, komencis per sarkasmo... cience realigebla: ke ni manjez en pl= adi ex oro. Ica sarkasmo, evidente, signifikas ke ni povas (e devas, e must= as) preparar un sistemo ekonomiala e politikala durebla. Ni devas direktar = la tempo, vice direktesar da la tempo.

       La homo reale rika ne esas rika pro= havar oro. La homo reale rika esas rika pro havar tempo. Se la homi havas = tempo, yen, se oli ne plu esos sklavi de omna singla instanto, oli manjos s= ive en pladi ex oro sive en pladi ex argilo bakita, ma oli omna manjos sen = hungro kronika. Do oli esos rika ed oli esos racionoza, nam oli esos la kon= trolanti de sua tempo, ne la kontrolati da sua tempo.

       Yen, do, mea konkl= uzuro: ke la etiko autentika, kun ekonomio (e politiko) realista, komencas = per la kontrolo progresiva da omnu a sua tempo de vivo. La bona etiko komen= cas kande la homo kontrolas progresive la tempo de sua vivo. Kande lu klare= separas la aferi serioza ex la aferi banala.

<= span class=3Drvts6>        Ma multa homi ankore deziras= manjar en pladi ex oro, ka ne?

       Amike, Aleshandre Shavier Kasanova Domingo= , posto elektronikala trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).



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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=256814494; y=yqwShUD_wVxYHkaBO6XLT4LkCpVikHWZwPgHUaUNLQfqmgB2Re_8UMzL X-Yahoo-Profile: gabriel_svoboda Interesiva e tre vera artiklo, kara Aleshandre. Korektigeti: jaro --> yar= o, celas --> intencas (vizas), rika --> richa. Amikale Gabriel Svoboda From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10240 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=jARHURyzdb2vh7DaSmfzfEjsp8hoo1ZYtQoV8Tam8CaJYLJ-gNcMrg0gZ9Nn X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Alexandre e Gabriel amba es tre habila interlinguistes, ili save multa IALe= s. Per mei propra experiencie yo save ke por multeIAListes tre desfacila es= memorar ko es de kel lingua. Akceptu mei kondolencies, Alexandre e Gabrie= l. Tamen no suciu, Partaka korektira li texte e noi metera it aden POSTA = MUNDI 14. Li artikle ipsa es yusta, yo konsenti. Li kozes es fata in ista m= unde no tale por ke ili esud plu bona por antropes, ma por ke ili vud plu b= ona por vender, ma mem ekonomika pri kel on tante zorga, malgre to sufra pr= o krizo, ve. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel Svoboda= " escribi=F3: > > > > Interesiva e tre vera artiklo= , kara Aleshandre. 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Ho, per tui sistem ("Konvens-IAL"), tu kuik obtenay mem plu vor= te's kam por Sekay Til, ka no? Yen ke tal "konvens", konstantei repetat, ig= e me pense al parle-manier de le Smurfe's, ma to no vol dice, ke tal sistem= no pove ese bon e valoroz (kun "konvens" o kun irg altri vorte). (Partaka= ) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" = skribay: Hola, Partaka! Pro ke li distingo "le di un/di un" no sembla kla= ra a me, yo inventev un post-artikle "konvens", ko deve signifikar alko kua= le "konvencional", e supoza distingar kozes naturala de kozes analogia akce= ptat dal socie. (Isto es if explikar simple, reale li principe forsan es pl= u komplika). Tal post-artikle pova sparar multa vortes. Yen, aproximante ku= ale isto: Di un konvens - lundi; di du konvens - mardi; ... di sep konven= s - sundi; sep di konvens - seman; lun konvens - monat; pago konvens - peku= nie, mon; penso konvens - ideologia; kredo konvens - religia; hom konvens -= persona; fantazia konvens - arte; stile konvens - moda; parlo konvens - li= ngua; signe konvens - simbol; savo konvens - sciento; bono konvens - moralo= ; malo konvens - peko... Rosto. --- in posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, = "qualevistandas" scriv: Ho, ya, kar kompan! Tu ya tre bo= n tradukay a Sibelingua mei danjerozi fraz en Bazal, fraz kel en plen Popul= ido esere tal: "Me sejornay la dum tri/plur di. Le unti di, kel esay mardi,= me kompray tri bir por mardi, merkurdi e jovdi". E yen le fraz en Ido: "M= e sejornis ibe dum tri dii. L'unesma dio, qua esis mardio, me kompris tri b= iri por mardio, merkurdio e jovdio". Le difer "le di un/di un" sembl a me, = ke pove sufice, kual ankei me vide adver nul problem pri "pi/pisi" en LdP; = ci-kazei, me no pove konkorde kun tu, ma kun Dimitri. Bon, me deve repete, = ke me no ja deciday pri "di un, di du", ec., ma, irgi-kazei, tal sistem ese= re por spare no nur kin vorte, nam ad ols on adjuntere, adminimei, le 12 mo= nat e le 4 sezon. Plus, yen ke vorte's kual "sun" e "lun" ese ya no-evitebl= i, ma to no signifike, ke on no pove refere ad ols altrei, exemplei per uze= duopli radik, vicei spense un plus, eceptei se tre valorozi. (En indonesik= e, "matahari" (di-okle) signifike "sun" :-) Bon, mei pense por Bazal es plu= facilige, no pludesfacilige. (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10242 Return-Path: X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=j97GxFQK4yJMB5XWymmlMHs7K7ssoKG34L-dEeP4RP_fpds X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------37EB521B42AF71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ni manjez realiste en pladi ex oro. Kordiala saluti. Semble, la titulo = de ica esajo esas demagogio quale altra frazi, ya demagogiala, ex la pseudo= -revoluciono Franca lor la yaro 1968. Mee aludas a frazi quale "Ni esez real= ista, ni demandez la neposiblajo." o "Sub la stradi trovesas la plajo.". M= a ico ne esas la kazo. La frazo kom titulo esas serioza. Ica frazo celas ko= rektigar la tipa manko de realismo en la etiko tradicionala, precipue pri e= konomio. La ekonomio da la etiko tradicionala esis neposibla, do absurda. = Ma mem se me ne radotas, probable on demandos a me: quale ni povas manjar f= izike en pladi ex oro? La respondo realista esas ke en nia planeto existas= multa tuni ex oro, exemple che la mari. La cienco ne povas ankore extrakta= r komplete ica oro, ma la progreso extraktiva kontinuesas, do multa homi ja= povas manjar en un plado ex oro, e la altra homi ja povas manjar en un pla= do o plura pladi ex arjento, platino, perlomatro, rubino, diamanto, ambro e= cetere; yen, per materii nobla, precoza, ne toxika e bela. Ni omna ja pova= s manjar en pladi luxala kun longa durado e alta qualeso. Ito, do, esas po= sibla cience e teknike... ma ne praktike. Unesme, nam la ekonomio hodie, s= ive kapitalista sive komunista, ne aceptas produkti tre bona e tre durebla.= Mem produkto tre chera, ma tre bona e tre durebla, esas generale chipa por= la kompranto. Ma, se la vendanto nur povos vendar un produkto tala a sua k= liento dum la vivo de sua kliento... generale, yen la ruino por la vendanto= o kapitalisto. E se la produkto mem esas uzebla pos la morto de la kliento= ... me ne bezonas deskriptar la katastrofo ekonomiala. Tala katastrofo esas= la sama por la kapitalisti Usana e por la komunisti Chinana; oli ne povus = vendar kontinue sua produkti. Che la ekonomio de hodie, la quanteso esas la= suprega valoro, e tala quanteso destruktas la qualeso. Ed ico ne esas la = unika problemo. La tipa idealo sociala, sive komunista sive kapitalista, es= as la idealo da la triumfanti. Ne nur che la futbalo, ma anke, e precipue, = che la ekonomio e la politiko. Nulu volas, por su ipsa o por sua filii, esa= r garsono, chambristo, policisto, ministo o fontenisto. Ya, retorike, kelka= policisti o ministi dicas ke yen triumfo se olua filii esas anke policisti= o ministi; ma yen nur retoriko. La filii de homi tre richa nultempe esas p= olicisti o ministi. Ne existas triumfo sociala en tala profesioni, do oli e= vitesas sempre kande on povas evitar oli. La konsumo esas altra aspekto de = la triumfo. Se en un naciono ja omna homi povas manjar terpomi e han-yuno, = yen bona afero por omni (poka nacioni, aktuale, eliminis la hungro kronika)= ma rapide la triumfanti volos luxo sur la manjo-tablo: frukti exotika, per= driki, fleto ex bov-yunino, ostri, kaviaro, e cetere. Por kolektar (e por k= olektar quik) tala alimenti luxoza, la produktanti e vendanti freque elimin= as la produkturo ex alimenti plu chipa kom la terpomo, o kontaminas la mari= ed extingas la trufli, la sturgi ed altra precoza animali o planta manjebl= a. Ma la fleto ex bov-yunino (ne bezonata por bona alimentado) donas plu tr= iumfo sociala e plu pekunio a la vendanti o produktanti kam la terpomo o la= kuniklo. Ico, ne citonte la abuzi che la nutrado de la bov-yunini por prod= uktar plu rapide e plu chipe, abuzi qua ja efektigis morti inter la konsuma= nti de bov-yunino, kom che la famoza krizo pri la "bov-yunini fola" de Angl= ia. La problemo esas, nemediate, ekonomiala e politikala. Ma ica problemo,= mediate e plu profunde, esas problemo antropologiala, etikala e filozofial= a. Nia mondo ne povas funcionar sen garsoni, chambristi, policisti, minist= i e fontenisti. Ma nulu (o quaze nulu) volas laborar en tala profesioni, do= nur la homi povra laboros tale... ed oli esos desprizata da la arkitekti, = futbalisti o biciklisti profesiona, judikisti, granda aktori o granda kanti= sti, bankisti, pilotisti de aeronavi, mediki, katedro-profesori ed altra pr= ofesioni prestijoza e tipe pekunioza. Nia mondo ne povas vivar (yen, manja= r) substitucante la kultivado de frumento e terpomo per la kultivo de kakao= , nek la brutar-produktado de hani per la brutar-produktado de struchi. Ni= a mondo ne povas durar kun la skemo de produkti masiva, chipa ma efemera, b= alde substitucata da nova produkti simila. Ito, kun la necese sempre plu kr= eskanta quanteso da konsumanti e klienti, do da habitanti, destruktas la bi= osfero*. E sen la biosfero nulu vivos. Me, do, komencis per sarkasmo... ci= ence realigebla: ke ni manjez en pladi ex oro. Ica sarkasmo, evidente, sign= ifikas ke ni povas (e devas, e mustas) preparar un sistemo ekonomiala e pol= itikala durebla. Ni devas direktar la tempo, vice direktesar da la tempo. = La homo reale richa ne esas richa pro havar oro. La homo reale richa esas r= icha pro havar tempo. Se la homi havas tempo, yen, se oli ne plu esos sklav= i de omna singla instanto, oli manjos sive en pladi ex oro sive en pladi ex= argilo bakita, ma oli omna manjos sen hungro kronika. Do oli esos richa ed= oli esos racionoza, nam oli esos la kontrolanti de sua tempo, ne la kontro= lati da sua tempo. Yen, do, mea konkluzuro: ke la etiko autentika, kun eko= nomio (e politiko) realista, komencas per la kontrolo progresiva da omnu a = sua tempo de vivo. La bona etiko komencas kande la homo kontrolas progresiv= e la tempo de sua vivo. Kande lu klare separas la aferi serioza ex la aferi= banala. Ma multa homi ankore deziras manjar en pladi ex oro, ka ne? Amik= e, Aleshandre Shavier Kasanova Domingo, posto elektronikala trigrupo@yahoo.= es (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ------------37EB521B42AF71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ni manjez realiste en pladi ex oro (texto korektigita ma ankore kor= ektiginda). <= body>

       Ni = manjez realiste en pladi ex oro.


    &= nbsp;  Kordiala saluti.

       Semble, la titulo de ica esajo esas demagogio= quale altra frazi, ya demagogiala, ex la pseudo-revoluciono Franca lor la = yaro 1968. Me aludas a frazi quale "Ni esez realista, ni demandez la neposi= blajo." o "Sub la stradi trovesas la plajo.".

<= span class=3Drvts6>        Ma ico ne esas la kazo. La f= razo kom titulo esas serioza. Ica frazo celas korektigar la tipa manko de r= ealismo en la etiko tradicionala, precipue pri ekonomio. La ekonomio da la = etiko tradicionala esis neposibla, do absurda.

=        Ma mem se me ne radotas, pr= obable on demandos a me: quale ni povas manjar fizike en pladi ex oro?

       La = respondo realista esas ke en nia planeto existas multa tuni ex oro, exemple= che la mari. La cienco ne povas ankore extraktar komplete ica oro, ma la p= rogreso extraktiva kontinuesas, do multa homi ja povas manjar en un plado e= x oro, e la altra homi ja povas manjar en un plado o plura pladi ex arjento= , platino, perlomatro, rubino, diamanto, ambro e cetere; yen, per materii n= obla, precoza, ne toxika e bela. Ni omna ja povas manjar en pladi luxala ku= n longa durado e alta qualeso.

       Ito, do, esas posibla cience e teknike... m= a ne praktike.

  &nbs= p;    Unesme, nam la ekonomio hodie, sive kapitalista sive komuni= sta, ne aceptas produkti tre bona e tre durebla. Mem produkto tre chera, ma= tre bona e tre durebla, esas generale chipa por la kompranto. Ma, se la ve= ndanto nur povos vendar un produkto tala a sua kliento dum la vivo de sua k= liento... generale, yen la ruino por la vendanto o kapitalisto. E se la pro= dukto mem esas uzebla pos la morto de la kliento... me ne bezonas deskripta= r la katastrofo ekonomiala. Tala katastrofo esas la sama por la kapitalisti= Usana e por la komunisti Chinana; oli ne povus vendar kontinue sua produkt= i. Che la ekonomio de hodie, la quanteso esas la suprega valoro, e tala qua= nteso destruktas la qualeso.

       Ed ico ne esas la unika problemo. La tipa ide= alo sociala, sive komunista sive kapitalista, esas la idealo da la triumfan= ti. Ne nur che la futbalo, ma anke, e precipue, che la ekonomio e la politi= ko. Nulu volas, por su ipsa o por sua filii, esar garsono, chambristo, poli= cisto, ministo o fontenisto. Ya, retorike, kelka policisti o ministi dicas = ke yen triumfo se olua filii esas anke policisti o ministi; ma yen nur reto= riko. La filii de homi tre richa nultempe esas policisti o ministi. Ne exis= tas triumfo sociala en tala profesioni, do oli evitesas sempre kande on pov= as evitar oli. La konsumo esas altra aspekto de la triumfo. Se en un nacion= o ja omna homi povas manjar terpomi e han-yuno, yen bona afero por omni (po= ka nacioni, aktuale, eliminis la hungro kronika) ma rapide la triumfanti vo= los luxo sur la manjo-tablo: frukti exotika, perdriki, fleto ex bov-yunino,= ostri, kaviaro, e cetere. Por kolektar (e por kolektar quik) tala alimenti= luxoza, la produktanti e vendanti freque eliminas la produkturo ex aliment= i plu chipa kom la terpomo, o kontaminas la mari ed extingas la trufli, la = sturgi ed altra precoza animali o planta manjebla. Ma la fleto ex bov-yunin= o (ne bezonata por bona alimentado) donas plu triumfo sociala e plu pekunio= a la vendanti o produktanti kam la terpomo o la kuniklo. Ico, ne citonte l= a abuzi che la nutrado de la bov-yunini por produktar plu rapide e plu chip= e, abuzi qua ja efektigis morti inter la konsumanti de bov-yunino, kom che = la famoza krizo pri la "bov-yunini fola" de Anglia.

       La problemo esas, neme= diate, ekonomiala e politikala. Ma ica problemo, mediate e plu profunde, es= as problemo antropologiala, etikala e filozofiala.

       Nia mondo ne povas func= ionar sen garsoni, chambristi, policisti, ministi e fontenisti. Ma nulu (o = quaze nulu) volas laborar en tala profesioni, do nur la homi povra laboros = tale... ed oli esos desprizata da la arkitekti, futbalisti o biciklisti pro= fesiona, judikisti, granda aktori o granda kantisti, bankisti, pilotisti de= aeronavi, mediki, katedro-profesori ed altra profesioni prestijoza e tipe = pekunioza.

    &= nbsp;  Nia mondo ne povas vivar (yen, manjar) substitucante la kultiva= do de frumento e terpomo per la kultivo de kakao, nek la brutar-produktado = de hani per la brutar-produktado de struchi.

       Nia mondo ne povas durar kun = la skemo de produkti masiva, chipa ma efemera, balde substitucata da nova p= rodukti simila. Ito, kun la necese sempre plu kreskanta quanteso da konsuma= nti e klienti, do da habitanti, destruktas la biosfero*. E sen la biosfero = nulu vivos.

    =    Me, do, komencis per sarkasmo... cience realigebla: ke ni manj= ez en pladi ex oro. Ica sarkasmo, evidente, signifikas ke ni povas (e devas= , e mustas) preparar un sistemo ekonomiala e politikala durebla. Ni devas d= irektar la tempo, vice direktesar da la tempo.

=        La homo reale richa ne esas= richa pro havar oro. La homo reale richa esas richa pro havar tempo. Se la= homi havas tempo, yen, se oli ne plu esos sklavi de omna singla instanto, = oli manjos sive en pladi ex oro sive en pladi ex argilo bakita, ma oli omna= manjos sen hungro kronika. Do oli esos richa ed oli esos racionoza, nam ol= i esos la kontrolanti de sua tempo, ne la kontrolati da sua tempo.

       Yen, do= , mea konkluzuro: ke la etiko autentika, kun ekonomio (e politiko) realista= , komencas per la kontrolo progresiva da omnu a sua tempo de vivo. La bona = etiko komencas kande la homo kontrolas progresive la tempo de sua vivo. Kan= de lu klare separas la aferi serioza ex la aferi banala.

       Ma multa homi ank= ore deziras manjar en pladi ex oro, ka ne?

       Amike, Aleshandre Shavier Kasan= ova Domingo, posto elektronikala trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo pu= nto es).



------------37EB521B42AF71-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10243 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25481 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2012 03:37:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2012 03:37:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng16-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.200) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2012 03:37:19 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.80] by ng16.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2012 03:37:18 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2012 03:37:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 03:37:16 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=PPmibh8ycB9RN9vt6RMyujoSf-_c_azrWCkuAOjNoGOtamdoKMK5Aaqme6TU X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Adver, isto no es "Konvens-IAL" pro ke "konvens" no es supozata eser li sol= a tala vortete. Multa altra tala vortetes pova eser inventat. In ista konkr= eta kaze yo pripensav, kuala es diferencia inter tei "le di un" e simple "d= i un". Yen ke in un kaze noi have konto ligata a naturala fluo de tempe, e = in altra kaze it es ligata a konvenciala koncepte de semane. Apliko de "kon= vens" a ideologia e religia esev kuaze un parodia o humoro, ma reale yo no = save, forsan it es serioza. Duesme, if vere frekuente uzata, tala parole k= om "konvens" pova eser abreviata a "ens", o "kon", o "onve", o "kens", o al= kel plus. If tala paroletes es multa, ili deve suficiante distingar un de a= ltra. Li ideala bilanse inter kurtese e distingo pova eser trovat nur in pr= ocese de reala uzo. Tala artikle kom "konvens" es analogia a pejorative "-= acho". Noi no admira if in parlacion de alkel persona li sufixe "-acho" fre= kuente sona. Noi tande rapide komprene, ke li persona expresa su negativa o= pinione pri alko. Altra tala artikles anke pova funkcionar analigie. Rosto= . --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > Hau, Rosto! Ho, per tui sistem ("Konvens-IAL"), > tu ku= ik obtenay mem plu vorte's kam por Sekay Til, ka no? > Yen ke tal "konvens"= , konstantei repetat, ige me pense al > parle-manier de le Smurfe's, ma to = no vol dice, ke tal sistem > no pove ese bon e valoroz (kun "konvens" o kun= irg altri vorte). > (Partaka) > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10244 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Nur, yo no save, kuale it pova eser util= a: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi:Esperanto_kamuflado,_parol= u_sekrete_kaj_diru_ke_vi_parolas_toki_pona-n Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@ya= hoogroups.com, "ila_mesajero" escribi=F3: > > & & & & & = & & & & & & & > > > > Esperanto - > > "Esperanto kamuflado" (2' 18'')= **** > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6HLsA7qApNg > > > > & & & & = & & & & & & & & > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10245 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Ne tro suciez prie! Nula problemo! Se posibla, voluntez pokop= e tradukar aden Neutra omno tradukebla en nia "wikkii", ma kande ulo esas = advere ne-posibla, adminime provizore, to restez tal qual. Standez bone, e= til nexta komuniko! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * ---= En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribis= : > > In tradukado de sistemi mesajes de postamundi.wikkii yo renkontrav un= problema, kel yo no pova solvar: > Por krear konto (abonar) ibe on deve re= sponder a un kuestione, pro ke isto es li sistema de protekto kontre spamer= es, kontre automatik abono. > Li kuestiones es simpla, exemple, "Kuala es t= riesma litere del alfabete Angli?" o "Skribe in cifres nombre du mil kin ce= nt kuar dek ok." > Ma li kuestiones es in lingua Angli. Yo teknikale no pov= a chanjar isto, nam ista sistema es in plu profunda nivele kam yo es permis= at. > Li posedantes de Wikkii deklarav, ke ili donara plu vasta posiblitate= s por wikis suficiante aktiva, ube multa popule altive participa. > > Nun= a sistema de protekto kontre spameres es komuna por omna wikis che Wikkii, = exemple che ldp.wikkii it es li sama. > Che li wiki-vortaro funkciona altra= sistema, ibe on deve inskriptar literes de un pikture. Isto es linguale ne= utrala decido. Kuankam, yo lektav che li instrukcione por li sistema WikiMe= dia, ke li sistema kun literes o cifres in pikture no es tante bona kuante = li sistema de kuestiones. Ibe es asertat, ke balde robotes esera kapabla le= ktar literes e cifres ex piktures plu bone kam homes. Kuankam, yo pensa, ke= responder a tala simpla kuestiones un suficiante sofistikata programa anke= pova. Yen, li efekte del milite kontre mashines kel komensav kelka yares a= nte nun kom protekto kontre spam, e poke pos poke ista milite evolucionara,= e ki pova predikar ko esera de to? > > Irgakaze, yen ke yo no pova far ke= ta kontrolanta kuestiones esu no in lingua angli. > > Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10246 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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La dicita kontrato supozesas evitor nova krizo= produktita per la debaji. Omna lando qua ne ratifikas la nova kontrato - = olqua valoreskos quik kande 12 Stati ratifikabos olu - ne plus povas yuriz= esar obtenar prestaji de EU/UE. Segun opinion-inquesto, publikigita dal SU= NDAY BUSINESS POST, 49% de la Irlandani supozesas votor favore a la kontrat= o, 33% esas kontrea, e 18% esas nedecidita. =C2=A0 KOSOVO / STUDIO POR EU= ROPANA INTEGRACO* Dum vizitar, hiere, la autoritatozi di Pristina, la komi= sario Europana por la pluvastigo, Stefan Fule, startigis l'elaborado di st= udiuro por facebleso koncernante Kosovo en la perspektivo di asocio-kontra= to kun Europana Uniono. Ico esos la maxim unesma etapo vizanta adhero 'lon= tana'. La studio utiligesas por definar detaloze la questioni quin Kosovo = mustas debatar kun Europa taskope. Hodie, 22 de la 27 membri di Europana U= niono agnoskas diplomacale Kosovo. =C2=A0 Kosovo =C2=A0 GERMANIA / POLICO-K= ONTROLO SEGUN "ASPEKTO VIZAJAL" La tribunalo administrerial di Koblenz ju= diciis hiere ke la federala policani Germania-lande povas, pro sucio di ef= ikiveso e segun la nombro de policani implikita, efektigar kontroli vizant= a aparta voyajanti "segun lia aspekto vizajal e "mem sen suspekti" sur fer= voyala linei ube iras stranjeri por enirar la teritorio Germana. Ica judici= o sequas plendo da voyajanto qua plendis kontrolesir pro la koloro di lua = pelo. =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::=C2=A0 --1185983942-322894017-1332955814=:534688 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Jean Martign= on, che plura Ido-forumi)
 
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Merkurdie, ye la= 28ma di marto.
 
Dio di santa Gontranus (nomo- e festo-dio di nia samideano=   Guenter Anton).
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / Kande pordo klozeskas, altra pordo aperteskas.<= /b>
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<= font color=3D"#ff0000">ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil Arieto guve= rnata dal planeto Marso.
 
VETERO / Printempala vetero sunoza, cajorne, en Francilia.
 
=
KONCIZE
 = ;
IRLANDO / LA = PLEBICITO EUROPANA HAVOS LOKO DUM LA 31ma DI MAYO
Irlando organizos dum la ve= nonta 31ma di mayo lua plebicito pri la nova kontrato budjetal Europana, r= edaktita ed aprobita dal 25 landi di EU/UE. La dicita kontrato supozesas ev= itor nova krizo produktita per la debaji. Omna lando qua ne ratifikas la n= ova kontrato - olqua valoreskos quik kande 12 Stati ratifikabos olu - ne p= lus povas yurizesar obtenar prestaji de EU/UE. Segun opinion-inquesto, pub= likigita dal SUNDAY BUSINESS POST, 49% de la Irlandani supozesas votor fav= ore a la kontrato, 33% esas kontrea, e 18% esas nedecidita.
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KOSOVO / STUDIO= POR EUROPANA INTEGRACO*
Dum vizitar, hiere, la autoritatozi di Pristina, la = komisario Europana por la pluvastigo, Stefan Fule, startigis l'elaborado d= i studiuro por facebleso koncernante Kosovo en la perspektivo di asocio-ko= ntrato kun Europana Uniono. Ico esos la maxim unesma etapo vizanta adhero = 'lontana'. La studio utiligesas por definar detaloze la questioni quin Kos= ovo mustas debatar kun Europa taskope. Hodie, 22 de la 27 membri di Europa= na Uniono agnoskas diplomacale Kosovo.
 
Kosovo
 
GERMANIA / POLICO-KONTROLO = SEGUN "ASPEKTO VIZAJAL"
La tribunalo administrerial di Koblenz judiciis hiere= ke la federala policani Germania-lande povas, pro sucio di efikiveso e se= gun la nombro de policani implikita, efektigar kontroli vizanta aparta voy= ajanti "segun lia aspekto vizajal e "mem sen suspekti" sur fervoyala linei= ube iras stranjeri por enirar la teritorio Germana. Ica judicio sequas pl= endo da voyajanto qua plendis kontrolesir pro la koloro di lua pelo.
 
Kordia= la interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-::: 


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Esas advere tre utila, se on povas ne nur lektar, ma ank= e askoltar nia neutra helpo-lingui, do, meajudike, ni ya povus krear en nia= "wikkii" un o plura faki, ube esus posibla askoltar 'parlar' e mem askolta= r kantar per diferanta LIA-sistemi. Se pri kantar en Ido, yen maxim bona e= xemplo, qua, pluse, koncernas membro dil grupo posta_Mundi: video-filmeto d= il kansono titulizita "Me amoras tu" (versiono original o karaokea) da MAES= TRI DIL SONO. Tamen, ca-kaze, oportus ya selektar admaxime, ed inkluzar nu= r to omna, quo esas parlata/kantata (e se posibla skribata) NUR en nia neut= ra helpo-lingui. Adavane, amiko! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * *= * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribis: Yo hodie saveskav, ke on pova meter video de Youtube ad su= r pajinas de wiki (e anke plura videos if on vole). Nur, yo no save, kuale = it pova eser utila: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi:Esperant= o_kamuflado,_parolu_sekrete_kaj_diru_ke_vi_parolas_toki_pona-n Rosto. -= -- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "ila_mesajero" escribi= =F3: & & & & & & & & & & & & Esperanto - "Esperanto kamuflado" (= 2' 18'') **** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6HLsA7qApNg & & & & = & & & & & & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10250 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 93157 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2012 02:26:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2012 02:26:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng13-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.216) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2012 02:26:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.178] by ng13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2012 02:26:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2012 02:26:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 02:26:33 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: Re: Youtube-video che wiki ( esev "Esperanto kamuflado") X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=JYz879pEFo3s8CV3vmR-Nu7KCRQnSemp1CizM84DSc8Fk9L0UrT0wjXlnRDG X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 On pova same vider e askoltar to omna che Youtube ipsa. Uzantes de diversa = bloges e forumes frekuente ama pozar video de Youtube in su pajinas, ube to= es posibla, ma isto es plu dekorativa funkcione kam praktikale utila. On y= a pova simple meter un ligilo, kuale to eveni hike che posta_Mundi. If alk= i vole, ya ol darfa meter video de Youtube in pajinas de postamundi.wiki. Y= o ipsa no intenta okupar me pri to. Tala funkcione anke es posibla che ial.= wikia, ma semble ibe anke isto no es uzata. Parenteze, potamundi.wikkii ha= ve nun plu multa pajinas (551) kam ial.wikia (543). Mwa-ha-ha! Rosto. --= - En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postaamundi" escribi=F3:= > > Bon jorno, Rosto! > > Esas advere tre utila, se on povas ne nur lekta= r, > ma anke askoltar nia neutra helpo-lingui, > do, meajudike, ni ya povus= krear en nia "wikkii" > un o plura faki, ube esus posibla askoltar 'parlar= ' > e mem askoltar kantar per diferanta LIA-sistemi. > > Se pri kantar en = Ido, yen maxim bona exemplo, > qua, pluse, koncernas membro dil grupo posta= _Mundi: > video-filmeto dil kansono titulizita "Me amoras tu" > (versiono o= riginal o karaokea) da MAESTRI DIL SONO. > > Tamen, ca-kaze, oportus ya se= lektar admaxime, > ed inkluzar nur to omna, quo esas parlata/kantata > (e s= e posibla skribata) NUR en nia neutra helpo-lingui. > > Adavane, amiko! >= > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10251 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 29179 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2012 03:15:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m13.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2012 03:15:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng7-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.83) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2012 03:15:09 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.81] by ng7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2012 03:15:07 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2012 03:15:07 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 03:15:07 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=coqmlezq7zblQAUeT1fJXUQ_p5fe3iCeJ9zoo6ahbnvtVFhVFtgyzz4_BxWX X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Yo pova dir pri ista tema, ke Bazal Rusi uza li maxim minimala vokabularie.= Es suficianta haver du substantives kel refera a fundamentala "ying" e "ya= ng", e de kel anke pova eser derivata verbes, adjektives e adverbes. Plus, = fundamentala verbe, signifikanta interago de "ying" e "yang", de kel anke p= ova eser derivata substantives, adjektives e adverbes. Omno isto pova eser = uzat in diversa deklinaciones. Es uzata diversa pronomines, prepoziciones, = prefixes, sufixes, dezinencies, konjunkciones. Plus, no plu kam dek bazala = verbes: dar, prender, portar, manjar, drinkar, dormir. Yen, isto es komplet= e suficianta por bazala interkomunikado, ko es pruvata praktikale da milion= es antropes durantu sekules. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "= qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > Kar amiks del planet k= olor siel: > mem se, til nun, nur mei pede's > eniray Bazal-akua, yen ke me= abe > le forti prepense, ke Bazal eseray > helpe-ling multi plu povozi kam= > irg altri ling, kel me lernay e parlay > kun no plus kam mil vorte, nam = Bazal > no eseray Populido mikrigat a nur mil vorte. > Irgi-kazei, me dur p= ense, ke Bazal eseray bon > nur por bazal interkomunike, ma no por literatu= r. > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10252 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 38181 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2012 10:16:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2012 10:16:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng5-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.144) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2012 10:16:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1333016186; bh=W4C2cWwIrV/8q7E0wnYC7g0JT0Q/MKIKWuQVMAQxFkU=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=SBFERL2tjhhxFm4rRAJUxfMdGMcylNFo0xVrSmC2E3TTPoLkUqipBuDXmOlFumoPsWihgzHULIFsRivTamcVbLOYJvExH1CSk0gOjvlh63PvJEbltQ/FPU2oWkkY4oL5 Received: from [98.138.217.177] by ng5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2012 10:16:26 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2012 10:16:26 -0000 X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=RxI5RwFdqhxwpj_p4YnT6NotjdMivynytHiJuQyAHF8qGm6WVz41mZpr X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta X-eGroups-Approved-By: qualevistandas via web; 29 Mar 2012 10:16:26 -0000 Jonny M. he komposi gana pa Lidepla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjnY4= w_tUIYM From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10253 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=GW9UxMxbANlqZ4kclzy6ojlHSSlZcAkEQBiFEl21Y3Kve5Fk4qKcqLoAcqTJ X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Ha-ha! Lidepla tote rastamani lingua es. Nun omnes klare pova audir to. --= - En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lingwwadeplaneta" e= scribi=F3: > > Jonny M. he komposi gana pa Lidepla: > > http://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DjnY4w_tUIYM > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10254 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13973 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2012 18:08:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2012 18:08:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng13-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.216) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2012 18:08:38 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.181] by ng13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2012 18:08:37 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by tg6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2012 18:08:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:08:35 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=JwrwbNytS9jZrk41tczeQIIYopDRWl6ySclOel13Ki7-vRIxXnDCj4E X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas He, Rosto! Me no kompren ko exaktei tu vol dice per tui mesaje, e me no sav= e kuanti vorte's abe tal "Bazal Rusi", pri kel tu skribe ci. Klar es, ke ku= an me parle pri bazal interkomunike, me refere a nur relativei bazal interk= omunike, no a neandertalike. Mil radik no es multi radik, ma ankei no es tr= o poki por ke no poveu existe suficanti bon interkomunike. (Partaka) --- = En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribay:= Yo pova dir pri ista tema, ke Bazal Rusi uza li maxim minimala vokabulari= e. Es suficianta haver du substantives kel refera a fundamentala "ying" e "= yang", e de kel anke pova eser derivata verbes, adjektives e adverbes. Plus= , fundamentala verbe, signifikanta interago de "ying" e "yang", de kel anke= pova eser derivata substantives, adjektives e adverbes. Omno isto pova ese= r uzat in diversa deklinaciones. Es uzata diversa pronomines, prepoziciones= , prefixes, sufixes, dezinencies, konjunkciones. Plus, no plu kam dek bazal= a verbes: dar, prender, portar, manjar, drinkar, dormir. Yen, isto es kompl= ete suficianta por bazala interkomunikado, ko es pruvata praktikale da mili= ones antropes durantu sekules. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@...= m, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: Kar amiks del planet ko= lor siel: mem se, til nun, nur mei pede's eniray Bazal-akua, yen ke me abe = le forti prepense, ke Bazal eseray helpe-ling multi plu povozi kam irg altr= i ling, kel me lernay e parlay kun no plus kam mil vorte, nam Bazal no eser= ay Populido mikrigat a nur mil vorte. Irgi-kazei, me dur pense, ke Bazal es= eray bon nur por bazal interkomunike, ma no por literatur. (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10256 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Ka vi ja spektabas "Gerda Malaperis", la famoza filmo en = Esperanto? Me recente deskovrabas ol en "YouTube", ma me ne ja trovabas la = tempo spektar ol. Se vi esas interesata, yen la ligilo qua duktas a "Gerda= Malaperis", ma me devas avertar, ke l' filmo duras preske un horo e tri qu= arimi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9GGdi_nFQA0 (Parenteze: me se sav= as pro quo, ma, nun-instante, me pensas aparte a nia kompano Carlos en Kost= arika, forsan pro ke il referis a Gerda, hike, adminime du- o tri-foye :-) = Vi omna standez bone! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10257 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 62116 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2012 02:38:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2012 02:38:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng10-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.78) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Mar 2012 02:38:02 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.120] by ng10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2012 02:38:01 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by tg1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2012 02:38:01 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 02:38:00 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=u7eWoGX3SvPZmMSMGruNZtGZ42NpmadtaP4QW9_z3gXKifodLLrVkr_y1Dbf X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Bazal Rusi es un parolacho nominata "Mat". Yen ke, koncernu hispan-linguane= s yo have tala imprese, forsan yo erora, ke in su "parolacho" ili inklina a= plikar diversa neutrala lexika a sexual aferes e aferaches. Ruses in su Mat= aga tote kontroverse. Kelka radikes, kel, on pova pensar, es supozata eser= sexual parolacho, es aplikat por expresar diversa tote neutrala kozes. E i= n tote, kustumale Mat es uzat por simpla neutrala kadadiala vivo. Kompreneb= le, tala parolacho oficiale es regardata kom tabuata e no tolerebla in kult= uroza socie. Tamen, malgre to, majoritate de Ruses uza Mat in plu o min gra= do. Tala individes es renkontrebla, kel komunika tote per Mat e tamen es ko= mprenata. Per se ipsa isto forsan es tala anke inter popules de Okcidento. = Tamen Rusi Mat es tote neordinara per su expresiv potencie. Isto no es simp= la "neandertalik" komunikado. (Kuankam noi no save lingua de neandertales) = Certena individes leva it til nivele de alta arte. Praktikale, in pura Mat = es uzat NUR ideomatik expresiones tote sin signifikanta lexika. E nun, pro= ko yo skriv pri to? Yen ke, in naturala linguas if on uza minimal vokabula= rie, on tande tre aktive uza idiomatik expresiones. Anke Esperanto abunda p= er idiomatik expresiones. Kritikantes kritika Esperanto pro to, li adeptes = fiera ke yen ke Esperanto nun es kuale naturala lingua. Anke on probav este= blisar "Basic English". Nu, ube sukceses? "Basic Inglish" ya existe e es ak= tive uzat durantu sekules, yo tale komprende, nur kuanto de ideomatik expre= siones es tanta, ke tala lingua nulkande pova eser komprenebla por profanes= . Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > He, Rosto! Me no kompren ko exaktei tu vol dice= > per tui mesaje, e me no save kuanti vorte's abe > tal "Bazal Rusi", pri = kel tu skribe ci. Klar es, ke kuan > me parle pri bazal interkomunike, me r= efere a nur > relativei bazal interkomunike, no a neandertalike. > Mil radi= k no es multi radik, ma ankei no es tro poki > por ke no poveu existe sufic= anti bon interkomunike. > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10258 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 69872 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2012 11:00:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2012 11:00:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng5-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.28) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Mar 2012 11:00:22 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.126] by ng5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2012 11:00:22 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2012 11:00:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:00:21 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: [NOVAJI] Kargesis nova dokumento che posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=NKfMehjhrf0udKdGarNMFEMnHlDtdRx5KOu30qTKZCztUg4-BFJ2FYo X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Bon jorno, p_M-ani! Yen ke jus kargesis nova dokumento che l' fako "Archiv= os" (Arkivi) dil grupo posta_Mundi. Dokumento: /posta_mundi_14.pdf Respon= santo: r0st0 Deskripturo: jurnal POSTA MUN= DI #14, mart 2012 Por lektar e juar tal dokumento, voluntez kliktar sur l= a suba ligilo! http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/files/posta_mu= ndi_14.pdf Danko pro via atenco. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10259 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42424 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2012 15:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m11.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2012 15:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng1-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.5) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Mar 2012 15:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.81] by ng1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2012 15:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by tg10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2012 15:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2012 15:50:20 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:50:20 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: [MUSIKA] Lidepla: Dai a me kisa (Jonny M.) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=8prAsjj_i3y1c97mY2MD1ga1CqeD0QXPorkN8gPovmzsHksm_saG4D0 X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Ho, yes, Carlos-Andres! ;-) Ni gratulez l'amiko Jonny M. pro ilua kansono = en LdP, ed omna LdP-ani pro un plusa video-filmeto en ta helpo-linguo. Dan= ko, gratuli, ed adavane Lingwa de Planeta! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a= * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribis: Ha-ha! Lidepla tote rastamani lingua es. Nun omne= s klare pova audir to. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lingwadeplan= eta" escribi=F3: Jonny M. he komposi gana pa Lidepla: = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjnY4w_tUIYM From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10260 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 88742 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2012 17:41:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2012 17:41:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng14-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.225) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Mar 2012 17:41:02 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.179] by ng14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2012 17:40:51 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.119] by tg4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2012 17:40:51 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:40:51 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=jyxGslFKH4JPiB6cajPPlqFb_ddHYafCwXyKSqwN1o4zsQ5v1V7WXhw X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Me no save ka tal sorte de ling, bazal ed spesial, pri kel tu skribe, exist= e omni-lokei, ma, irgi-kazei, me supoze ke tal interkomunike ed interkompre= n es produktat da homs, kel parle, plus, un sam ling, ol eseu rusike, angli= ke, hispanike od irg altri, ka no? Ma yen ke nosi-kazei, Bazal, kom neutri = helpe-ling internasion, esere util a homs, kel abe tre diferanti lings mat= ral, ma simil vortar e bagaj helpe-lingual. Se nos pense a posta_Mundi, por= exemple, nos omni ya povere uze (od adminimei kompren) Bazal. Klar es, ke = Bazal abere sui propri partikularaje's, ma ols esere "nosi" partikularaje's= , e do nos omni abere nul problem por interkompren ed interkomunike, se nos= dezire lo. Ankei klar es, ke on no kompreneray Bazal sen lern ol. (Partak= a) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" = skribay: Bazal Rusi es un parolacho nominata "Mat". Yen ke, koncernu hispa= n-linguanes yo have tala imprese, forsan yo erora, ke in su "parolacho" ili= inklina aplikar diversa neutrala lexika a sexual aferes e aferaches. Ruses= in su Mat aga tote kontroverse. Kelka radikes, kel, on pova pensar, es sup= ozata eser sexual parolacho, es aplikat por expresar diversa tote neutrala = kozes. E in tote, kustumale Mat es uzat por simpla neutrala kadadiala vivo.= Kompreneble, tala parolacho oficiale es regardata kom tabuata e no tolereb= la in kulturoza socie. Tamen, malgre to, majoritate de Ruses uza Mat in plu= o min grado. Tala individes es renkontrebla, kel komunika tote per Mat e t= amen es komprenata. Per se ipsa isto forsan es tala anke inter popules de O= kcidento. Tamen Rusi Mat es tote neordinara per su expresiv potencie. Isto = no es simpla "neandertalik" komunikado. (Kuankam noi no save lingua de nean= dertales) Certena individes leva it til nivele de alta arte. Praktikale, in= pura Mat es uzat NUR ideomatik expresiones tote sin signifikanta lexika. = E nun, pro ko yo skriv pri to? Yen ke, in naturala linguas if on uza minim= al vokabularie, on tande tre aktive uza idiomatik expresiones. Anke Esperan= to abunda per idiomatik expresiones. Kritikantes kritika Esperanto pro to, = li adeptes fiera ke yen ke Esperanto nun es kuale naturala lingua. Anke on= probav esteblisar "Basic English". Nu, ube sukceses? "Basic Inglish" ya ex= iste e es aktive uzat durantu sekules, yo tale komprende, nur kuanto de ide= omatik expresiones es tanta, ke tala lingua nulkande pova eser komprenebla = por profanes. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevis= tandas" escribi=F3: He, Rosto! Me no kompren ko exaktei = tu vol dice per tui mesaje, e me no save kuanti vorte's abe tal "Bazal Rusi= ", pri kel tu skribe ci. Klar es, ke kuan me parle pri bazal interkomunike,= me refere a nur relativei bazal interkomunike, no a neandertalike. Mil rad= ik no es multi radik, ma ankei no es tro poki por ke no poveu existe sufica= nti bon interkomunike. (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10261 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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E nun, por ti omna, qui ne ja esas membri dil grupo = posta_Mundi, ma qui vizitas ni e su interesas pri nia kara jurnalo inter-IA= L, yen un plusa ligilo por ke anke li povez juar POSTA MUNDI #14, qua esas = ibe, ad-infre, apud la cetera numeri di nia monatal verketo: http://enioni= .narod.ru/jurnal/ Adavane posta_Mundi e POSTA MUNDI! * * * * * * * * p = a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevi= standas" skribis: Bon jorno, p_M-ani! Yen ke jus ka= rgesis nova dokumento che l' fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) dil grupo posta_Mundi= . Dokumento: /posta_mundi_14.pdf Responsanto: r0st0 Deskripturo: jurnal POSTA MUNDI #14, mart 2012 Por lektar e juar = tal dokumento, voluntez kliktar sur la suba ligilo! http://es.groups.yaho= o.com/group/posta_Mundi/files/posta_mundi_14.pdf Danko pro via atenco. = P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10263 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14713 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2012 10:06:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m14.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Mar 2012 10:06:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng12-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.148) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2012 10:06:06 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.82] by ng12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2012 10:06:05 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by tg2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2012 10:06:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:06:04 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=77mVmFPMLaDJWopLA8InFIEFSE6KiCHfOkvR2LqMpjhdAfj5qyvH2YONZlNT X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Esteblisar alkel linguala standartes almene por interna uzo de posta_Mundi = es tre atraktiva id=E9a, ma tre desfacila. Noi pova komensar serchante gram= atikal trates e vortes pri kel omnes es konsenti. Kompilar liste de tal koz= es komuna. Pos to probar serchar konvencional decides pri plu dubitabla tem= as. Yo nun pova nur dir, ke uzo de literes: A, B, D, E, F, I, L, M, N, O, = P, R, T, U - es komuna. Kuankam, mem F no sempre, it anke pova eser PH. Ank= e U no sempre es U, nur kom sola vokale, in diftonges it pova eser W, UX o = V. Anke I pova eser Y. Semble, nur 10 literes es certa. Eske noi pova kom= pilar liste de radikes pri kel omnes konsenti? Yen exemplim, "bon" sembla e= ser tote universala. Tamen rapide tala postamundianes pova eser trovebla, k= el dira, ke "bon" no es "bon", ma "hao". E anke es Interlingua, ube adjekti= ve es "bon" ma adverbe es "ben". Eske noi tamen darfa inkluder li radike "b= on" kom lingual standarte de posta_Mundi? Yen ke, Coca-Cola produkta "Bon= Aqua", ma no produkta "HaoHidra", kuale vi pensa, pro ko? Rosto. 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Eventis la unesma pleyado di Simfonio no. 1 ("Printempo" Simfonio) da R= obert Schumann. Pos sugesti da lua muzikala spozino Clara ke il skribez por= orkestro, il skisis la simfonio dum quar dii en januaro, e kompletigis la = instrumentizado=C2=A0ante la fino di=C2=A0februaro. La unesma pleyado, qua = esis sucesoza,=C2=A0eventis ye la Gewandhaus en Leipzig. =C2=A0 1949. Nov-L= ando (Newfoundland) divenis provinco di Kanada. La anciena kolonio di Brita= nia guvernesabis da=C2=A0komisitaro depos 1934, lor periodo di grava ekonom= iala depreseso. La komercala agadi esis precipue peskado e foresto-kultivad= o. En 1948 eventis du plebiciti por selektar la formo di guvernado: respons= iva guvernado, duro di la komisitaro o federo kun Kanada. =C2=A0 1959. La D= alai Lama Tenzin Gyatso, spiritala duktanto di Tibet,=C2=A0arivis en India,= irinte trans la frontiero=C2=A0ye la Khenzimana Paseyo. Por eskapar de tum= ulto en sua lando,=C2=A0il livabis Lhasa per pedo ye 17 marto kun=C2=A0duad= ek altri qui inkluzis kabinet-ministri; dum la voyajo ilua loko esis ne=C2= =A0savata. To sequis=C2=A0revolto en Tibet frue en marto,=C2=A0e kombatado = inter Tibetani e soldati de Chinia. Plu tarde, la Dalai Lama ofresis politi= kala azilo da la guvernado di India, ed=C2=A0il rezidis en Dharamsala. =C2= =A0 Kordiale DGW =C2=A0 ---312333347-420490852-1333191752=:861011 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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1841. Eventis la= unesma pleyado di Simfonio no. 1 ("Printempo" Simfonio) da Robert Schumann. Pos sugesti da lua muzikala spozino Clara ke il skribez po= r orkestro, il skisis la simfonio dum quar dii en januaro, e kompletigis la= instrumentizado ante la fino di februaro. La unesma pleyado, qua= esis sucesoza, eventis ye la Gewandhaus en Leipzig.
 
1949. Nov-Lando (Newfoundland) di= venis provinco di Kanada. La anciena kolonio di Britania guvernesabis da komisitaro depos 1934, lor = periodo di grava ekonomiala depreseso. La komercala agadi esis precipue pes= kado e foresto-kultivado. En 1948 eventis du plebiciti por selektar la form= o di guvernado: responsiva guvernado, duro di la komisitaro o federo kun Ka= nada.
 
1959. La Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso, spir= itala duktanto di Tibet, arivis en India, irinte trans la frontiero&nb= sp;ye la Khenzimana Paseyo. Po= r eskapar de tumulto en sua lando, il livabis Lhasa per pedo ye 17 mar= to kun duadek altri qui inkluzis kabinet-ministri; dum la voyajo ilua loko esis ne savata. To s= equis revolto en Tibet frue en marto, e kombatado inter Tibetani = e soldati de Chinia. Plu tarde, la Dalai Lama ofresis politikala azilo da l= a guvernado di India, ed il rezidis en Dharamsala.
 
Kordiale DGW
 
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(Partaka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribay: Esteblisar alkel linguala standartes almene por i= nterna uzo de posta_Mundi es tre atraktiva id=E9a, ma tre desfacila. Noi p= ova komensar serchante gramatikal trates e vortes pri kel omnes es konsenti= . Kompilar liste de tal kozes komuna. Pos to probar serchar konvencional de= cides pri plu dubitabla temas. Yo nun pova nur dir, ke uzo de literes: A,= B, D, E, F, I, L, M, N, O, P, R, T, U - es komuna. Kuankam, mem F no sempr= e, it anke pova eser PH. Anke U no sempre es U, nur kom sola vokale, in dif= tonges it pova eser W, UX o V. Anke I pova eser Y. Semble, nur 10 literes e= s certa. Eske noi pova kompilar liste de radikes pri kel omnes konsenti?= Yen exemplim, "bon" sembla eser tote universala. Tamen rapide tala postamu= ndianes pova eser trovebla, kel dira, ke "bon" no es "bon", ma "hao". E ank= e es Interlingua, ube adjektive es "bon" ma adverbe es "ben". Eske noi tame= n darfa inkluder li radike "bon" kom lingual standarte de posta_Mundi? Y= en ke, Coca-Cola produkta "BonAqua", ma no produkta "HaoHidra", kuale vi pe= nsa, pro ko? Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10266 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Ma koncernu bezono speciale= kompilar alkel bazal vortare... Kande tu, Partaka, simple skribe tei propr= a penses o rakonta pri alko, in Ido o Populido, tu no uza tro multa vortes.= E if dir pri me, yo simple no save multa vortes. Yo kuale pensa, tale skri= be. E mei lexika per se ipsa es bazal. Eske vi, antropes, save de ube omna = superflua lexika apara in interlinguistika? It apara, kande on pena vorte-i= n-vorte precize tradukar diversa textes in nacional linguas: literatura, no= vicias etc. Kande un antrop simple pensa in un neutral lingua e kuale pensa= , tale expresa se, tande omno es normal. E mem if tradukar: ki bezona vosi = preciza traduko? If on lekta alko interesanta e expresa to lektata kuale on= komprene to, in neutrala lingua, per su propra simpla paroles, tande to es= utila e komprenebla. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qual= evistandas" escribi=F3: > > Ci-kazei, me supoze ke ese= re plu facil e mem plu rapid, > se singli interesat konstruktere sui propr= i bazal helpe-ling, > kam ke nos omni konkordere pri to ko plu bon por tal = bazal, > ma me dur pense, ke nos interinflue konstante, mem sen konsie pri,= > e to ya es bon por nosi komun projet interkomunike bazalei. > (Partaka)= > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "Rosto" skribay: > > Esteblisar alkel linguala standartes almene por interna = uzo de posta_Mundi es tre atraktiva id=E9a, ma tre desfacila. > > Noi pova= komensar serchante gramatikal trates e vortes pri kel omnes es konsenti. K= ompilar liste de tal kozes komuna. Pos to probar serchar konvencional decid= es pri plu dubitabla temas. > > Yo nun pova nur dir, ke uzo de literes: >= A, B, D, E, F, I, L, M, N, O, P, R, T, U - es komuna. Kuankam, mem F no se= mpre, it anke pova eser PH. Anke U no sempre es U, nur kom sola vokale, in = diftonges it pova eser W, UX o V. Anke I pova eser Y. Semble, nur 10 litere= s es certa. > > Eske noi pova kompilar liste de radikes pri kel omnes ko= nsenti? > Yen exemplim, "bon" sembla eser tote universala. Tamen rapide tal= a postamundianes pova eser trovebla, kel dira, ke "bon" no es "bon", ma "ha= o". E anke es Interlingua, ube adjektive es "bon" ma adverbe es "ben". Eske= noi tamen darfa inkluder li radike "bon" kom lingual standarte de posta_Mu= ndi? > > Yen ke, Coca-Cola produkta "BonAqua", ma no produkta "HaoHidra"= , kuale vi pensa, pro ko? > > Rosto. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10267 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 96061 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2012 21:48:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Mar 2012 21:48:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng15-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.128) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2012 21:48:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1333230506; bh=ImhH4xm6dXqZx1HzAxOrV8hqBex+1L1mMjla7QO9KbU=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=fiHEXHcrdS3Xxcu/ukBdHLRyBqOkEIVjHCZkhl7rL9uR22eWnVR4a5V/nGqgqvFus4Wpm+KwkfRVvcvUJVtq2yy2OewLpMkEIHliOvDfFN8xthy+O9VdGqjxrltPP/IR Received: from [98.139.164.123] by ng15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2012 21:48:26 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2012 21:48:26 -0000 X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=8C_3iCpXcSv_yuYVaLChEotGKle6hTpUPuqAfQQwFB4UAiqCS-7fKIla X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta X-eGroups-Approved-By: qualevistandas via web; 31 Mar 2012 21:48:26 -0000 --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" esc= ribi=F3: > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lingwadeplaneta" escribi=F3: > > > > > > > > Apropoo vesna, walaa un poem= a-ki ke me yus he posti in Lidepla Feisbuk-grupa: > > > > VESNA. > > > > = Surya brili in blu skay, > > faula-gana suoni. > > Vesna lai ya, vesna lai,= > > mah-alegre oni. > > > > Al balbata de ruchey > > kordia jagifi. > > I= nen flori yarke mey, > > atma ol novifi. > > > > Gro-priat es surya-ray, >= > it garmisi wanga. > > Feng do vesna fuki-flai, > > es zuy hao kanga. > >= > > Pi ba aira: vino es! > > Wek, oo hima lao! > > Vesna lai, e pa novves= > > jiva es gro-hao. > > > > > > > Ista poeme in LdP es simpatia. Noi = (Partaka e yo) vole inkluder it in li jurnal POSTA MUNDI #14. > Yo nun anke= fav un non-preciza traduko a Sibelingua, yo no intenta inkluder anke mei t= radukure, tamen yen it hike: > > Sune brile in blu ciel, > kansone de fogl= e sona, > ja printempe veni, > on gaudia pro to. > > Riverete babila - > k= ordie avigila. > May brila e florifa - > anima denove yuna. > > Joy-plena = sun-radie > kaloriga vange. > Printempi vente sufla, > lude per harare. > = > Drinku aere kuaze vino, > exiliante vintre. > Yen printempe, nova tempe, = > e tre bona vita! > > Rosto. > Me he adapti sey vesna-ney poema-ki a mus= ika de may amiga Nikolai Agafonnikov: http://youtu.be/VBmeMeiVVOk Hao audi= ng! From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10268 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25239 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2012 00:41:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Apr 2012 00:41:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng11-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.135) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2012 00:41:08 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.83] by ng11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2012 00:41:01 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2012 00:41:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 00:40:58 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=AWoq8bqzbcvlKiayEvQRcMALJEYueMfxgvZjF5cfNA2nQ32kIaLPxYM X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Salut, kompan! Se tu vol dice, ke nos (tu e me ed altri homs ci) uze (se n= o mil vorte), no plu multi kam dumil/kuarmil vorte, olkel sufice por ke nos= interkomunike ed interkompren, me ya pove konkorde kun tu, nam me ya sper,= ke le no plus kam mil radik, kel Bazal aberay, eseray util por konstruke, = adminimei, tal dumil/kuarmil vorte, kel nos uze ci por interkomunike bazale= i, ko no eseray adver tam bazal kam nur mil vorte. (Partaka) --- En po= sta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribay: Pri= interinfluo yo konsenti, isto dona espero. Ma koncernu bezono speciale k= ompilar alkel bazal vortare... Kande tu, Partaka, simple skribe tei propra = penses o rakonta pri alko, in Ido o Populido, tu no uza tro multa vortes. E= if dir pri me, yo simple no save multa vortes. Yo kuale pensa, tale skribe= . E mei lexika per se ipsa es bazal. Eske vi, antropes, save de ube omna s= uperflua lexika apara in interlinguistika? It apara, kande on pena vorte-in= -vorte precize tradukar diversa textes iin nacional linguas: literatura, nov= icias etc. Kande un antrop simple pensa in un neutral lingua e kuale pensa,= tale expresa se, tande omno es normal. E mem if tradukar: ki bezona vosi p= reciza traduko? If on lekta alko interesanta e expresa to lektata kuale on = komprene to, in neutrala lingua, per su propra simpla paroles, tande to es = utila e komprenebla. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qu= alevistandas" escribi=F3: Ci-kazei, me supoze ke esere p= lu facil e mem plu rapid, se singli interesat konstruktere sui propri baza= l helpe-ling, kam ke nos omni konkordere pri to ko plu bon por tal bazal, m= a me dur pense, ke nos interinflue konstante, mem sen konsie pri, e to ya e= s bon por nosi komun projet interkomunike bazalei. (Partaka) --- En p= osta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribay: Este= blisar alkel linguala standartes almene por interna uzo de posta_Mundi es t= re atraktiva id=E9a, ma tre desfacila. Noi pova komensar serchante gramat= ikal trates e vortes pri kel omnes es konsenti. Kompilar liste de tal kozes= komuna. Pos to probar serchar konvencional decides pri plu dubitabla temas= . Yo nun pova nur dir, ke uzo de literes: A, B, D, E, F, I, L, M, N, O, = P, R, T, U - es komuna. Kuankam, mem F no sempre, it anke pova eser PH. Ank= e U no sempre es U, nur kom sola vokale, in diftonges it pova eser W, UX o = V. Anke I pova eser Y. Semble, nur 10 literes es certa. Eske noi pova k= ompilar liste de radikes pri kel omnes konsenti? Yen exemplim, "bon" sembla= eser tote universala. Tamen rapide tala postamundianes pova eser trovebla,= kel dira, ke "bon" no es "bon", ma "hao". E anke es Interlingua, ube adjek= tive es "bon" ma adverbe es "ben". Eske noi tamen darfa inkluder li radike = "bon" kom lingual standarte de posta_Mundi? Yen ke, Coca-Cola produkta = "BonAqua", ma no produkta "HaoHidra", kuale vi pensa, pro ko? Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10269 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13119 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2012 08:35:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Apr 2012 08:35:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng20-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.120) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2012 08:35:55 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.178] by ng20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2012 08:35:55 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by tg3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2012 08:35:55 -0000 Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:35:53 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=9eEA4MPznTu4ydv7TPAYMnUdu7ZevFfdbfThSrPWrwQMHsyMTyeMbFULSk0q X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Yo nun poke okupav me pri Glosa, adjuntante it a postamundi.wikkii. Un ex c= hefa ideas de Glosa anke esev bazal radikarium ex 1000 vortes-radikes. (Ya,= Glosa es supozat kom komplete analitik lingua, vortes samtempe es radikes)= . Hike es bazal radikarium de Glosa: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Glos= a_1000 Nu, ibe ankor normale funkciona nur "aero" e "acide". "Aero" es bona= kazo, kande Glosa konsenta kun ENIONI. On pova anke vider "acide", kuale i= t pova funkcionar in postamundi.wikkii, kande "acide" in Glosa have tote al= tra signifiko de "acide" de ENIONI. Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroup= s.com, "qualevistandas" scriv: > > Salut, kompan! Se t= u vol dice, ke nos > (tu e me ed altri homs ci) uze (se no mil vorte), > n= o plu multi kam dumil/kuarmil vorte, olkel > sufice por ke nos interkomunik= e ed interkompren, > me ya pove konkorde kun tu, nam me ya sper, ke > le no= plus kam mil radik, kel Bazal aberay, eseray > util por konstruke, adminim= ei, tal dumil/kuarmil > vorte, kel nos uze ci por interkomunike bazalei, > = ko no eseray adver tam bazal kam nur mil vorte. > (Partaka) > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10270 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 63108 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2012 09:07:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Apr 2012 09:07:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng6-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.153) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2012 09:07:47 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.180] by ng6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2012 09:07:47 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2012 09:07:47 -0000 Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:07:44 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Bonvenez, Printempo Boreal! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=DeBZ2eK-STd0AIEzPVQIt7c-edycyME5yK7Parrof2AuCc3c3673sR-GKB6O X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Sona bele, normala, ma li reggae da Jonny M. sonav plu pozitive. Rosto. -= -- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "linggwadeplaneta" = scriv: > > > Me he adapti sey vesna-ney poema-ki a musika de may amiga Nik= olai Agafonnikov: > http://youtu.be/VBmeMeiVVOk > > Hao auding! > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10271 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=XhIYyARW7LX7yU-E8XGUrQIN60fkgfQIBHQq2CUX4guAOltZtXhTUzw X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi E tamen, on ya povas intuicar, ke, che "Vesna", on povus durar kantar dum l= a parto final dil kansono, ube trovesas nur la muziko, ma nula voco... Sufi= cus adjuntar en la justa loko dil video-filmeto: "E nau, yu oli gani pa ka= raoke!" :-) E kompreneble, repetar la konkreta texto, qua oportas kantar a= pud la sonanta muziko. Se ne... Nyanyaka nyaka nyaka nyaaaaaaaaa, nyanyaka= nyaka nyaka nya-ka-nya... ;-) Gratuli, Dimu, pro ta nova video-filmeto en= LdP! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi= @yahoogroups.com, "lingwadeplaneta" skribis: Me kon= senti ke 'Dai a me kisa, jamile gela' es absolutem geniale kreatura kel mah= oni fai positive emosion. Dimitri --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, = "Rosto" escribi=F3: Sona bele, normala, ma li regga= e da Jonny M. sonav plu pozitive. Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups= .com, "lingwadeplaneta" scriv: Me he adapti sey vesna-= ney poema-ki a musika de may amiga Nikolai Agafonnikov: http://youtu.be/VBm= eMeiVVOk Hao auding! From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10276 Return-Path: X-Sender: svoboda.gabriel@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61421 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2012 15:05:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Apr 2012 15:05:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng1-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.55) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2012 15:05:19 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.182] by ng1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2012 15:05:19 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by tg7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2012 15:05:19 -0000 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:05:18 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: [MUZIKO] Esperanto - La Suda Vento **** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=aYmfnsNw_DQ9O8f5qA1daHLkbY-WOM5QXkdEk7cK5Iv9KBct09tRXk9X0QNy X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Pro ko, Partaka, tu no skriv, ke Megurine Luka kanta ista "La Suda Vento"? = Ya, es tre desfacila igar vokaloides kantar in irga lingua exceptu Japani.= Li lingua Japani have fonetikal struktura maxim apta por vokaloides. Forsa= n pro to li teknologia de vokaloides aparav in Japania e evolucionav ibe. M= ajoritate de probes igar les kantar in altra linguas sona terure. Yo renkon= trav nur sola experemente in lingua Rusi, kel sona bele, segun mei opinione= . To esev li kansone "Li nubes": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAG8hvddRr= Kw kantata da Hatsune Miku. Omno altra in Rusi sona tote terure. Megurine = Luka es supozata, ke el pova kantar no nur in Japani, ma anke in Angli. Kua= nkam, verdirim, lai pronuncie Angli es distanta de modelatra. In ista Esper= anti kansone "La suda vento" esev uzan Angli pronuncie de Luka. Li rezultat= e es simpatia, tale por me sembla. Yo adora vokaloides e paraskoltav multaf= oye centes de kansones vokaloidi. Yo kelkafoye askoltav nun anke ista "La s= uda vento". Nu, yes, duimo de konsonantes es parmanjata. Ma malgre to it so= na simpatie. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "ila_mesajero" = escribi=F3: > > & & & & & & & & & & & & > > > > Espe= ranto - > > La Suda Vento (2' 33'') **** > > http://www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3Dd6gpFW5Fz9Q > > > > & & & & & & & & & & & & > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10279 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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(Seneca) =C2=A0 ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo di= l Arieto guvernata dal planeto Marso. =C2=A0 VETERO / Sunoza vetero, cajor= ne, en Francilia. =C2=A0 KONCIZE =C2=A0 KOLUMBIA / HELIKOPTERI BRAZILANA = IRAS POR REKUPERAR LA GAJO-HOMI DI LE FARC Du helikopteri sendita dal arme= ani Brazilana arivis dum la sundio pasinta en Kolumbia por irar rekuperar = gajo-homi, quin la "guerilla"-ani Farc promisis liberigar quik de lundio. P= er paco-ago, la rebeli promisis liberigar lia lasta "milit-kaptiti", t.e. = sis policani e quar militisti, mantenita en kaptiteso depos dek-e-du til d= ek-e-quar yari. =C2=A0 CHINIA / BRUTALA PLUSEVERIGO KONTRE LA INTERRETO E= N CHINIA Chinia anuncis importanta restrikti por la utiligado dil mikra bl= ogi. Rezolvesis la klozo di plura ret-situi qui esis l'origino pri rumoro = di stroko di stato en Beijing (Pekino) e l'aresto di centi de personi akuz= ita pri lego-violaci surlinea. =C2=A0 KUBA / ICAYARE LA SANTA VENERDIO ES= OS FESTO-DIO EN KUBA La Kubana autoritatozi dekretis ke la santa venerdio,= cayare, esos festo-dio, konseque di demando da papo Benediktus XVI, qua j= us efektigis vizito sur ica insulo. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Benediktus XVI e Fidel = Castro =C2=A0 IRAK / PRI LA MARO-STRETAJO DI ORMUZ, ICA LANDO SERCHAS PAC= IGO L'Irakana vice-Chefa ministro, Hussein Chahristani, deklaris, dum sund= io pasinta, ke lu "laboras tre harde" kun Usa por probar pacigar la tensi = ligita a la minaco Irakana klozar la maro-stretajo di Ormuz, de qua depend= as 90% de lua recevaji budjetal. =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad om= ni. JM :::-::: --394961386-393140513-1333395932=:58881 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Jean Martign= on, che plura Ido-forumi)
 
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Lundie, ye la 2ma= di aprilo 2012.
 
Dio di santa Sandrina.
 
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DIO-CITAJO / "Tarde volar, lo esas ne volar." = (Seneca)
 
ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil Arie= to guvernata dal planeto Marso.
 
VETERO<= /font> / Sunoza vetero, cajorne, en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
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KOLUMBIA / HELIKOPTERI B= RAZILANA IRAS POR REKUPERAR LA GAJO-HOMI DI LE FARC
<= font color=3D"#800000" face=3D"DejaVu Sans">Du helikopteri sendita dal = armeani Brazilana arivis dum la sundio pasinta en Kolumbia por irar rekuper= ar gajo-homi, quin la "guerilla"-ani Farc promisis liberigar quik de lundi= o. Per paco-ago, la rebeli promisis liberigar lia lasta "milit-kaptiti", t= .e. sis policani e quar militisti, mantenita en kaptiteso depos dek-e-du t= il dek-e-quar yari.
 
CHINIA / BRUTALA PLUSEVERIGO KONTRE LA INTERRETO EN CH= INIA
= Chinia anuncis importanta restrikti por la utiligado dil mikra blogi. Rezo= lvesis la klozo di plura ret-situi qui esis l'origino pri rumoro di stroko= di stato en Beijing (Pekino) e l'aresto di centi de personi akuzita pri l= ego-violaci surlinea.
 
KUBA / ICAYARE LA SANTA VENERDIO ESOS FESTO-DIO EN K= UBA
L= a Kubana autoritatozi dekretis ke la santa venerdio, cayare, esos festo-di= o, konseque di demando da papo Benediktus XVI, qua jus efektigis vizito su= r ica insulo.
 
 
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IRAK / PRI LA MARO-ST= RETAJO DI ORMUZ, ICA LANDO SERCHAS PACIGO
L'Irakana vice-Chefa ministro, Husse= in Chahristani, deklaris, dum sundio pasinta, ke lu "laboras tre harde" ku= n Usa por probar pacigar la tensi ligita a la minaco Irakana klozar la mar= o-stretajo di Ormuz, de qua dependas 90% de lua recevaji budjetal.
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Kordiala i= nterretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::
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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14323 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2012 04:29:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2012 04:29:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng13-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.216) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2012 04:29:45 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.178] by ng13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 04:29:45 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 04:29:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 04:29:43 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: [MM] Fantomas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=vuWe5AzOQSZkH0J_n52tfQZ7loW_wR_gnsyuqHc2BzNJYMNk-_lpdYeFizze X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Yo nun trovav video-anuncie pri filme "Fantomas" in li lingua Franci, che Y= otube, ye 3 minutes de longore. Li nome "Fantomas" es pronunciata ibe multa= foy. Yo askolta "s" in li fine, certe ili pronuncia "FantomAs", kun "s" fi= nala. Semble Louis de Fun=E8s maxim klare pronuncia "s" in li fine. Rosto.= --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > Hodi, yen ke me viday nosi kar amik, Fantomas, > kel apar= ay en TV-film emisat per TV3 Katalunia. > Esay por me surprize, ke lu nomes= ay "FantomA" > (kual en fransike), nam me konose lu kom "FantOmas". > Irgi-= kazei, me viday le tre impresant imaje de nosi > Fantomas, ed askoltay lui = no min impresanti voce, > mem se me no povay spekte le plen filme. > (Part= aka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10283 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 91038 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2012 04:51:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2012 04:51:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng20-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.120) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2012 04:51:37 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.176] by ng20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 04:51:37 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 04:51:37 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 04:51:37 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: "Fantomas v Praze" (sin vortes) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=zLqoQdNOgrmHcnlXhv_88AvabBMWF0gYbYqP369UnKZQR8y7YtQBVjNFyKQQ X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 & & & & & & & & & & & & "Fantomas v Praze" (2' 21'') http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DFwILbOnAMIk & & & & & & & & & & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10284 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22612 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2012 10:57:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2012 10:57:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng12-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.207) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2012 10:57:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1333450633; bh=4KEYbNRYDsGZkjLnMAMaxWu8g9XQIjA0JrXmj6qesBY=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=tPqTEkBv4wDiFjUA8cUVBP84k5+pIK0YHi6ZLiKjlHjKJLTLPH4vQwuWwOSnKgOCo955NIVt4j/c0kmZL0kJoxukUkwgMYb4Z9wcIBE9fUWkZVzfQK4u2WKUslc9oqKo Received: from [98.138.217.177] by ng12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 10:57:13 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.73] by tg2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 10:57:13 -0000 X-Sender: cafaristeir@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75039 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2012 06:56:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m14.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2012 06:56:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng5-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.57) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2012 06:56:28 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.88] by ng5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 06:56:28 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.119] by tg8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 06:56:28 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 06:56:26 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "cafaristeir" Subject: RE: [MM] Fantomas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=311484367; y=UmLDb1wPd1M1k_u3GK9EftlIibzvbdF-qzHlPmy9xzfJg9h-2dg X-Yahoo-Profile: cafaristeir X-eGroups-Approved-By: qualevistandas via web; 03 Apr 2012 10:57:10 -0000 Yes, Rosto, in francese on pronuncia li "s" de "Fantomas". Olivier --- E= n posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3= : > > Yo nun trovav video-anuncie pri filme "Fantomas" in li lingua Franci,= che Yotube, ye 3 minutes de longore. Li nome "Fantomas" es pronunciata ibe= multa foy. Yo askolta "s" in li fine, certe ili pronuncia "FantomAs", kun = "s" finala. Semble Louis de Fun=E8s maxim klare pronuncia "s" in li fine. >= > Rosto. > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > > > Hodi, yen ke me viday nosi kar amik, Fan= tomas, > > kel aparay en TV-film emisat per TV3 Katalunia. > > Esay por me = surprize, ke lu nomesay "FantomA" > > (kual en fransike), nam me konose lu = kom "FantOmas". > > Irgi-kazei, me viday le tre impresant imaje de nosi > >= Fantomas, ed askoltay lui no min impresanti voce, > > mem se me no povay s= pekte le plen filme. > > (Partaka) > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10285 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 21324 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2012 12:40:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m9.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2012 12:40:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng1-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.164.139) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2012 12:40:27 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.120] by ng1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 12:40:14 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by tg1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 12:40:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:40:13 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: [MM] Fantomas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=BZDo7Lr1gtIPavOIOXhRW_o9l_q_9tlD47q1-K0TfPjxhXhgOW1Acg6jPuCH X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Danko, Oliver! --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "cafaristeir" scriv: > > Yes, Rosto, in francese on pronuncia li "s" de "Fantom= as". > > Olivier > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3: > > > > Yo nun trovav video-anuncie pri filme "= Fantomas" in li lingua Franci, che Yotube, ye 3 minutes de longore. Li nome= "Fantomas" es pronunciata ibe multa foy. Yo askolta "s" in li fine, certe = ili pronuncia "FantomAs", kun "s" finala. Semble Louis de Fun=E8s maxim kla= re pronuncia "s" in li fine. > > > > Rosto. > > > > > > --- En posta_Mun= di@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > > > = > > Hodi, yen ke me viday nosi kar amik, Fantomas, > > > kel aparay en TV-f= ilm emisat per TV3 Katalunia. > > > Esay por me surprize, ke lu nomesay "Fa= ntomA" > > > (kual en fransike), nam me konose lu kom "FantOmas". > > > Irg= i-kazei, me viday le tre impresant imaje de nosi > > > Fantomas, ed askolta= y lui no min impresanti voce, > > > mem se me no povay spekte le plen filme= . > > > (Partaka) > > > > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10286 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 51205 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2012 17:58:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2012 17:58:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng10-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.189) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2012 17:58:49 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.180] by ng10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 17:58:49 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by tg5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 17:58:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:58:48 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: [MM] Fantomas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=32LNHoOEulkR8TGrp8617dDqa1EXWdB9JZDInRAlgZYY8HCLW8rifWs X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Ho, kompans! Yen afer kel semble fantomasatri: hodi, le sam TV-kanal (TV3-T= elevizion de Katalunia) emisay un plusi filme pri nosi kar amik, Fantomas..= . Dum ke yer, lu nomesay FantomA, tal kual me skribay, yen ke, hodi, lu nom= esay FantOmas, kual kustumal che me. Ambi filme prizentesay en katalunike. = Yer, me simplei konjektay, ke FantomA (kual "repas" [repA]) es pronunsiat f= ransikei, ma, segun semble, le nom de nosi hom es adver FantomAs en fransik= e. (Partaka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "cafaristeir" skribay: Yes, Rosto, in francese on pronuncia li "s" de "Fantom= as". Olivier --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3: Yo nun trovav video-anuncie pri filme "Fantomas" in= li lingua Franci, che Yotube, ye 3 minutes de longore. Li nome "Fantomas" = es pronunciata ibe multa foy. Yo askolta "s" in li fine, certe ili pronunci= a "FantomAs", kun "s" finala. Semble Louis de Fun=E8s maxim klare pronuncia= "s" in li fine. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevi= standas" escribi=F3: Hodi, yen ke me viday nosi kar amik= , Fantomas, kel aparay en TV-film emisat per TV3 Katalunia. Esay por me sur= prize, ke lu nomesay "FantomA" (kual en fransike), nam me konose lu kom "Fa= ntOmas". Irgi-kazei, me viday le tre impresant imaje de nosi Fantomas, ed a= skoltay lui no min impresanti voce, mem se me no povay spekte le plen filme= . (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10287 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 90712 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2012 21:53:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m13.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2012 21:53:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng10-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.189) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2012 21:53:22 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.181] by ng10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 21:53:21 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 21:53:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:53:21 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: [MUZIKO] Esperanto - La Suda Vento **** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=44DU6-fZ8iVF6eM7dP0dfbLdIxwMf-9oW6u0EsoS4avDbVtVJ0Jw8EY X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kara Rosto: Ka tu konocas plusa "vokaloidi", qui utiligas irga neutra help= o-lingui? Me forsan povos felicigar tu, se me informos tu pri adminime par= o de "vokaloidi" en Esperanto, qui riproduktesis olim en posta_Mundi. Se t= u ne ja spektis tal video-filmeti, voluntez dicar lo a me, e me plezuroze m= ontros a tu la korespondanta ligili. Ni durigez la kantado! * * * * * * = * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, = "Rosto" skribis: Pro ko, Partaka, tu no skriv, k= e Megurine Luka kanta ista "La Suda Vento"? Ya, es tre desfacila igar voka= loides kantar in irga lingua exceptu Japani. Li lingua Japani have fonetika= l struktura maxim apta por vokaloides. Forsan pro to li teknologia de vokal= oides aparav in Japania e evolucionav ibe. Majoritate de probes igar les ka= ntar in altra linguas sona terure. Yo renkontrav nur sola experemente in li= ngua Rusi, kel sona bele, segun mei opinione. To esev li kansone "Li nubes"= : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAG8hvddRrKw kantata da Hatsune Miku. Omn= o altra in Rusi sona tote terure. Megurine Luka es supozata, ke el pova ka= ntar no nur in Japani, ma anke in Angli. Kuankam, verdirim, lai pronuncie A= ngli es distanta de modelatra. In ista Esperanti kansone "La suda vento" es= ev uzan Angli pronuncie de Luka. Li rezultate es simpatia, tale por me semb= la. Yo adora vokaloides e paraskoltav multafoye centes de kansones vokaloid= i. Yo kelkafoye askoltav nun anke ista "La suda vento". Nu, yes, duimo de k= onsonantes es parmanjata. Ma malgre to it sona simpatie. Rosto. --- = En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "ila_mesajero" escribi=F3:= & & & & & & & & & & & & Esperanto - La Suda Vento (2' 33'') ***= * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dd6gpFW5Fz9Q & & & & & & & & & & = & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10288 Return-Path: X-Sender: csolisr@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12749 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2012 22:00:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m13.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2012 22:00:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.riseup.net) (204.13.164.18) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2012 22:00:39 -0000 X-Received: from fulvetta.riseup.net (fulvetta-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 961C6540D3 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:00:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: csolisr@...) with ESMTPSA id 3187B215 X-Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user csolisr) by fulvetta.riseup.net with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:00:39 -0600 Message-ID: <43f8863f08b549a83ad422d7c1f01fb5.squirrel@...> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:00:39 -0600 To: "posta_Mundi" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: =?utf-8?B?IkNhcmxvcyBTb2zDrXMi?= Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] RE: [MUZIKO] Esperanto - La Suda Vento **** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=518591879; y=9Ng5djUICR0LMSkvtbARVVsLqYCJftllO5BoAsmb-v2-hC7XgU4 X-Yahoo-Profile: csolisr_azk > Kara Rosto: > > Ka tu konocas plusa "vokaloidi", qui utiligas irga neutra helpo-lingui? Me savas ke, ek la "Vocaloid"'i, nur Luka Megurine povas kantar en l'Angla (omna l'altri povas kantar nur en la Japoniana linguo), e do, kun ula ajusti, povas kantar aden helpolingui kam en ica kansono. Ma anke existas la "UTAU"'i, e uli povas kantar en multa lingui; sama kozo aplikas por li. - Carlos Solís From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10289 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 82512 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2012 23:15:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m15.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2012 23:15:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng11-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.135) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2012 23:15:38 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.84] by ng11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 23:15:38 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.155] by tg4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 23:15:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:15:36 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "ila_mesajero" Subject: [BLOG] Sibelingua - Numero 14 del jurnal POSTA MUNDI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=ZTNp8b9iQoKjIDPuozBcQfJCVi5ti-3qRDTUkMKU2n8WX8jWx36A X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero & & & & & & & & & & & & Sibelingua - Numero 14 del jurnal POSTA MUNDI= http://www.ipernity.com/blog/79634/384136 & & & & & & & & & & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10290 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 39046 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2012 03:02:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2012 03:02:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng11-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.135) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2012 03:02:57 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.85] by ng11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 03:02:56 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by tg5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 03:02:56 -0000 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 03:02:53 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: [MUZIKO] Esperanto - La Suda Vento **** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=x9_3EutFtdvH2Cjvguzcc999m53KBkFbaHnONvhznLkGvi_54I095LyODG46 X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Komprenende, yo nun rapide trovav kelko, kande sercheskav. Yo no serchav vo= kaloides in Esperanto anteim, pro ke komplete no kredev, ke alko bona pova = eser ex to. Vere, yo imaginav alko chagreninda kuale isto: "Knabino el Ipa= nema", kanta Megurine Luka, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbdKvMxxx72w T= amen yen altra kansono kun Megurine Luka es normal: "Cxe Marbordo" http://= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Do0f8sYE62X8 E mem vere astonanta autentika kanso= ne, kuankam in Esperanto, un ex maxim bela kual yo askoltav (li titolo es i= n Japani, ma if tradukar per guglo): "Fro li foreste", kanta Hatsune Miku:= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DroOM5L7fzJ8 Nu, anke esev mei propra st= ranji experimentes: http://www.ipernity.com/blog/79634/339875 http://www.ip= ernity.com/blog/79634/339361 A Carlos: Yes, praktikale preske nur Megurine= Luka kanta in lingua Angli, kuankam kelka altra vokaloides anke teorie pov= a kantar in Angli, ma ili no es populara. Li programa UTAU es sen-pagi libe= ra analoge de Vocaloid, e regretinde no pova eser komparebla kun Vocaloid, = kuankam in UTAU on pova krear propra UTAUloid mem ex propra voke, e in irga= lingua. Ma li teknologia de vokaloides no es tante simpla. Li teorial baze= de vokaloides, ko es interesanta, esev elaborat in li universitate Pompeu = Fabra, in Barcelona, in li komenso del yardeko 2000, kun pekunial subteno d= a Yamaha, e posim realizat da Yamaha in Vokaloid 1. E yen, nur in li versio= ne Vocaloid 3 esev realizat li pronuncio Hispani, li editione es de 21 de o= ktobre, 2011, li feminin voko Clara e maskulin Bruno. Yo ipsa no ankor asko= ltav les, nur nun yo trovav ista informacione. Yo savev, ke li Hispani voke= esev promisat in Vokaloid 3, anke esev promisat li voke Korei. In li autum= ne de antei yare yo serchav, eske vere li Hispani vokaloides aparav, ma tro= vav nur li Korei vokaloid SeeU, nu, el kanta bele. E pos to yo no serchav p= lus. Nun yo serchara Clara e Bruno por askoltar les. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10291 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Un ex mei maxim favorata kansones nun in Hispani, kantata da hispan-lin= guala vokaloid: "Monstruo de Circo", kanta Bruno http://www.youtube.com/wa= tch?v=3DKpL2LosZ_14 Yo vide, Clara e Bruno komensav aparar circa 2 monates= ante nun. Yo ankor no askoltav multe. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10292 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 223 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2012 11:30:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2012 11:30:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng13-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.161) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2012 11:30:46 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.86] by ng13.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 11:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by tg6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 11:30:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 11:30:43 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: [MUZIKO] Esperanto - La Suda Vento **** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=5wq1jB3okSkjz8SubBShEjskVxtxwKnTyLzXMI_qpTqhQK3o9eSWCaE X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Ho, yes, kara Rosto! Juste! Me pensabis konocigar da tu "Cxe Marbordo" ko= m bon exemplo, e "Knabino el Ipanema" kom mala exemplo. Yen ke amba vokalo= idi prizentesis hike, che posta_Mundi, ye plura yari ante nun. Chao! Til b= alde! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi= @yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribis: > > Komprenen= de, yo nun rapide trovav kelko, kande sercheskav. > Yo no serchav vokaloide= s in Esperanto anteim, pro ke komplete no kredev, ke alko bona pova eser ex= to. Vere, yo imaginav alko chagreninda kuale isto: > > "Knabino el Ipanem= a", kanta Megurine Luka, > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbdKvMxxx72w > = > Tamen yen altra kansono kun Megurine Luka es normal: > > "Cxe Marbordo" = > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Do0f8sYE62X8 > > E mem vere astonanta au= tentika kansone, kuankam in Esperanto, un ex maxim bela kual yo askoltav (l= i titolo es in Japani, ma if tradukar per guglo): > > "Fro li foreste", ka= nta Hatsune Miku: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DroOM5L7fzJ8 > > Nu, = anke esev mei propra stranji experimentes: > http://www.ipernity.com/blog/7= 9634/339875 > http://www.ipernity.com/blog/79634/339361 > > A Carlos: Yes,= praktikale preske nur Megurine Luka kanta in lingua Angli, kuankam kelka a= ltra vokaloides anke teorie pova kantar in Angli, ma ili no es populara. > = Li programa UTAU es sen-pagi libera analoge de Vocaloid, e regretinde no po= va eser komparebla kun Vocaloid, kuankam in UTAU on pova krear propra UTAUl= oid mem ex propra voke, e in irga lingua. Ma li teknologia de vokaloides no= es tante simpla. > Li teorial baze de vokaloides, ko es interesanta, esev = elaborat in li universitate Pompeu Fabra, in Barcelona, in li komenso del y= ardeko 2000, kun pekunial subteno da Yamaha, e posim realizat da Yamaha in = Vokaloid 1. E yen, nur in li versione Vocaloid 3 esev realizat li pronuncio= Hispani, li editione es de 21 de oktobre, 2011, li feminin voko Clara e ma= skulin Bruno. Yo ipsa no ankor askoltav les, nur nun yo trovav ista informa= cione. Yo savev, ke li Hispani voke esev promisat in Vokaloid 3, anke esev = promisat li voke Korei. In li autumne de antei yare yo serchav, eske vere l= i Hispani vokaloides aparav, ma trovav nur li Korei vokaloid SeeU, nu, el k= anta bele. E pos to yo no serchav plus. Nun yo serchara Clara e Bruno por a= skoltar les. > > Rosto. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10294 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 69464 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2012 15:21:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2012 15:21:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng2-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.18) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2012 15:21:28 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.88] by ng2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 15:21:27 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by tg8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 15:21:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:21:26 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: apogo a vizuala informacione X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=kjz4MTiqlOXBcsx1pwkn9zoNmfPRjVzoTllhXszuM47SFsoFeEudT9wv8jbr X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Che omna altra grupes, antropes komunika per bone konocata linguas, natural= a o artificiala. Che posta_Mundi noi komunika per stranja materia kuale int= erlinguistika o ko isto es. Nu, por li grupe posta_Mundi isto es normal, se= gun li idea ipsa. Por postamundi.wikkii yo pensa ke esus bona if plu apogar= a piktures, a diversa vizuala informacione. Yen un exemple kuale to pova a= spektar: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Korp Isto es un pajina in Idio= m Neutral, ma if fata por un lingua, to es kopiebla anke por li altres. If = klikar a "1. kap" dekstre del imajo, on ire al pajina kun altra imaje, prob= u isto. Per tala imajes, if ili esera bone organizata, on pova trovar multa= vortes in diversa IALes no apogante a irga lingua. Isto anke pova eser un = individual trate de postamundi.wikkii, kel kapabla atraktar atencione. Ro= sto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10295 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44937 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2012 15:50:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2012 15:50:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng9-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.180) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2012 15:50:13 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.179] by ng9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 15:50:05 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.119] by tg4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 15:50:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:50:03 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Gerda Malaperis - La Filmo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=CulEVPUNGDMKCNjFJpNOSJQt6_kluLNSjvXjphQKHA6S5wgQbtcxIBh7oQ3M X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Yo finfinale parspektav li "Gerda malaperis". Forsan isto es un heroik ago,= parspektar it til fine, ma normala por un vere ardoroza fanato de interlin= guistika. Un yare ante nun yo ja probav spektar it de Youtube, ma yo tande = havev tro lenta internet e pro to sucesav vider nur komense, e nun, danko, = Partaka, ke tu rememorigav me pri ta filme, e yo ja obliviav pri ista filme= , ke it existe. "Gerda malaperis" de un latere es enua, tedanta, ma de alt= ra latere it es epik, yo no save, kuale explikar isto. Respekto ad antropes= , kel fabrikav li filme! Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "po= stamundi" escribi=F3: > > Tik-tak, amiki! > > Ka vi ja sp= ektabas "Gerda Malaperis", > la famoza filmo en Esperanto? > Me recente de= skovrabas ol en "YouTube", > ma me ne ja trovabas la tempo spektar ol. > >= Se vi esas interesata, yen la ligilo qua duktas > a "Gerda Malaperis", ma = me devas avertar, > ke l' filmo duras preske un horo e tri quarimi: > > ht= tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9GGdi_nFQA0 > > (Parenteze: me se savas pro= quo, ma, nun-instante, > me pensas aparte a nia kompano Carlos en Kostarik= a, > forsan pro ke il referis a Gerda, hike, adminime du- o tri-foye :-) > = > Vi omna standez bone! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * *= * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10296 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61696 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2012 16:49:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m14.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2012 16:49:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng8-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.96) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2012 16:49:33 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.83] by ng8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 16:49:33 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by tg3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2012 16:49:33 -0000 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 16:49:32 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: jurnal POSTA MUNDI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=0kSpYlrlmMy6B_xugmtMcD7PkLqtuz3iXCWunbh-_zUhtYKUZwkiEJHUsqIk X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Vere, yo reva cesar eser li chef-redaktor del jurnal POSTA MUNDI. Pro ke yo= have plu granda interese a wiki. Wiki anke pova eser utila por posta_Mundi= ! Ya, yo save, ke che posta_Mundi tala antropes es, kel es kapabla editer u= n pdf-jurnal. Certe exemplim lideplaistes pova. Eske esera mal if lideplais= tes editera almene un numero? Yen, anke Thomas denov vole editer su IE MUND= E. Pro ko no POSTA MUNDI? isto ya es preske lo sama! Yo have multa diversa= ideas koncernu postamundi.wikkii. Isto pova eser bona atrakcione! E jurnal= ... If alki plus okupara se pri it, to certe esera utila por li jurnale: no= va vidpunkte, nova maniere - isto esud utila e interesanta por lektantes. N= o necese un antrop konstante deve okupar se pri li jurnale, un numero darfa= eser fabrikat de un redaktore, sekuenta numero - da altra. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10297 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Nul problem! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=5jmwHNZEcknXoF1l-yZADXxdBadQgUh7rXWlGCQEc1a24wIpDc9mia0 X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Yer, me no save kualei, yen ke rat eniray le vestibul de mei eskaler. Nul m= ikri mus, ma ver adulti rat! Du fema, kel abay multi pavor, petay den me se= rche le rat e mortige lu, ma ankei me abay pavor, e plus, me no vol mortige= nosi frate rat, ma nur forige lu. Me pregay ke on aperteu le strade-porde,= ed on inviteu le rat ekire, dum ke me restay mezei de stret koridor por k= e le rat no acense tra l'eskaler. Un del fema, mem avertabay le polis, kel = senday auto kun du polisiste... Jus pos ke le du polisiste arivay, on apert= ay le porde, e le rat aparay, ma lu no kureskay a le strade, nam lu fugay e= venay a me, kel esay mezei del stret koridor... Lorei, me talei furieskay,= ke me komensay krie kual bestie por ke lu no veneu a me, ma por ke lu ireu= a le strade... 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La dicita refujinti esabis s= okursita ye la predio sude dil insulo Italiana Lampedusa. Segun lia atesto= , acidento eventis poka tempo pos lia departo. Pos la vintro e la retroven= o di meteorologio plu oportuna, la autoritatozi Italiana timas nova amasal= arivo da nelegala ekmigranti. =C2=A0 USA / PRE-ELEKTO EN MARYLAND, WISCO= NSIN ED EN WASHINGTON La moderata konservemulo Mitt Romney konsideresis ko= m preferato por la tri pre-elekti republikana necesa por la investo prezid= antal. Ica pre-elekti esis eventonta hiere en la chefurbo, Washington DC, = en la vicina Stato Maryland ed en Wisconsin, nord-Usa. La multopla milioni= ero mormona esas en unesma rango koncerne la nombro de delegiti nominita= =C2=A0 lor la pre-elekti organizita Statope depos la komenco di ca yaro. = =C2=A0 Mitt Romney =C2=A0 LIBANO / DEMANDO POR INQUESTO POS LA MORTO DI S= ERVISTINO Gulnara Shahinian, raportisto specala di Unionita Nacioni pri la= moderna formi di sklaveso, demandis hiere a la guvernerio di Libano entra= prezar inquesto pri la morto di Alem Dechasa, servistino Etiopiana evanta = 34 yari, qua suocidis pos frapesir enstrade. La dicita raportisto di UN/ON= U ja demandabis dum 2011 en Beyrouth legifar por la protektado dil 200.000= servisti laboranta en Libano. =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni= . JM :::-::: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---2112415559-1790164338-1333569657=:919906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Merkurdie, ye la = 4ma di aprilo 2012.
 
Dio di santa Isidorus di Sevilla.
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / Ye harda pano, akuta = dento.
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ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil Arieto= guvernata dal planeto Marso.
 
 
V= ETERO / Alternante grizeta e sunoza cielo kun temperaturo koldeta, = cajorne, en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
 
ITALIA / MORTO DI DEK MIGRANTI SUDE DI LAMPEDUS= A
Sis= Somaliani e quar Eritreani perisis surmare dum trairado de Libia vers la = litoro Italiana, asertis hiere refujinti di grupo de 48 personi, kontenant= a dek-e-du mulieri - inter eli tri esis gravida. La dicita refujinti esabi= s sokursita ye la predio sude dil insulo Italiana Lampedusa. Segun lia ate= sto, acidento eventis poka tempo pos lia departo. Pos la vintro e la retro= veno di meteorologio plu oportuna, la autoritatozi Italiana timas nova ama= sal arivo da nelegala ekmigranti.
 
USA / PRE-ELEKTO EN MARYLAND, WISCONSIN ED= EN WASHINGTON
La moderata konservemulo Mitt Romney konsideresis kom preferato = por la tri pre-elekti republikana necesa por la investo prezidantal. Ica p= re-elekti esis eventonta hiere en la chefurbo, Washington DC, en la vicina= Stato Maryland ed en Wisconsin, nord-Usa. La multopla milioniero mormona = esas en unesma rango koncerne la nombro de delegiti nominita  lor la = pre-elekti organizita Statope depos la komenco di ca yaro.
 
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= Mitt Romney
 
LIBANO / DEMANDO = POR INQUESTO POS LA MORTO DI SERVISTINO
Gulnara Shahinian, raportisto specala= di Unionita Nacioni pri la moderna formi di sklaveso, demandis hiere a la= guvernerio di Libano entraprezar inquesto pri la morto di Alem Dechasa, s= ervistino Etiopiana evanta 34 yari, qua suocidis pos frapesir enstrade. La= dicita raportisto di UN/ONU ja demandabis dum 2011 en Beyrouth legifar po= r la protektado dil 200.000 servisti laboranta en Libano.
=
 
Kordiala interretal= a saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::
 
 
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Mem plu facile, se tu > aceptas ibe plusa helpo-lingui, ultre Mondl= ango. > Ho, ve! Bonvole pardonez mia fruegeco en respondi yim! Iel ayn mi = niam vidin jum til nun! Fakte "Monda" ay "Mondlango" saman. Mi tipe usan l= a wordo "Monda" insted "Mondlango" nur car Mondlango esan dislongigo de "Mo= nda Lango". Pardonez mia neklareco tiaaje! En vero, tamen, mi simple dezir= uz havi cateyo pro parolantos de *ayna* helplango. Mondlango mi selektin mo= r/les canse, or eble car Mondlango esan 1 el mia favoratos el helplangaro. = La cateyo de Mondlango ne yam havan alia parolanta krom mi, do eble mi prop= onon tia ideo (multhelplanga cateyo) ci tie future. Nuntempe mi joyon pri s= imple skribi. :-) Tamen if la parolanti en ci tiu forumo enjoyuz la canso = de havi tia cateyon, mi felicege esiguz jim. > Irga-kaze, tu anke povas e = darfas skribar per Monda > (od irg altra neutra LIA-sistemi, quin ni povas = komprenar), > hike, che l' forumo posta_Mundi, ube, itere maxim probable, >= plura homi kapablesas uzar ta linguo, ed omnu komprenar ol. > > Maxim bon= a fortuno, ed adavane, Mark! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * *= * * * * * * > Dankegos pro la bonveno, Partaka. Mi legintan la mesaj= os ci tie dum longa tempo, ay mi felicegan pro ke mi yam sentan tre bonveno= por joyni en interskribado. Mi yam abonin al la mesajos per webposto, do n= un mi ne disvidon respondos, ay mi certe skribon mor en la futuro nira. Am= ike, Mark > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > Mar=C4=89jo skribis: > > Saluto, kuma posta_Mundi-anos! > > > Mi startin= nova cateyo Mondlanga ce jabber.org. Oni povan ensaluti kum iu ayn XMPP-a = konto en onia softwaro per joyni grupcateyo ce ci tiu Jabber-adreso: > > = mondlango conference.jabber.org > > usante @-signo pro . Ne tayp= ez la interspasos, nature. > > Se oni ne havan or ne volan usi XMPP-a kon= to pro ensaluti, oni anke povas joyni enwebe per ci tiu ligilo: > > http:= //www.speeqe.com/room/mondlango conference.jabber.org/ > > Refoye, <= ce> =3D @, ay ne taypez interspasos. > > La ligilo ensalutizon yim kum ca= nsa usantnomo, do mi demandan ke oni canjez jim pos ensaluti. Mi povan help= i kum tio. > > Ciu langos esan bonvenata, sed mi amike demandan ke oni p= rovan usi Monda kiam eblan. > > Mi felice esperan ke mi vidon yum tie! Mi= ensalutin az "marcyo"! > > > Amike, > > Mark/Marcyo > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10300 Return-Path: X-Sender: codename_gimmick@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 49562 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2012 00:58:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2012 00:58:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng16-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.200) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2012 00:58:26 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.82] by ng16.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2012 00:58:26 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by tg2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2012 00:58:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:58:23 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?TWFyxIlqbw==?= Subject: RE: [Mondlango] Nova Cateyo por Mondlangistos ce Jabber.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=503365050; y=sNIUgEeQsugDglI6_tXPBbrk1MUMhSAZSS1TV0O1qWjKkxuQDpsIb6lQ5g X-Yahoo-Profile: codename_gimmick --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" e= scribi=F3: > > Che posta_Mundi, ya, mem propra chat esev klozat recente (pr= o ke nulkande funkcionav). Hike habita antropes tro lenta por chatar :) > = Ha, jes, ofte pasan tiel kun la cateyos ay retos de helplangos. Mi nuntempe= ensalutan ce 2 cateyos pro Esperantistos, ay rare oni respondan rapide. Sa= me kun alia grupos tiatipa. Danko aynakaze pro respondi, Rosto, ay esan pl= ezuro ekkoni yim! From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10301 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Hike, che posta_Mundi, cert= e noi no have alkual urja aferes, nulo postulanta rapida decido. Antropes p= ova desaperar hike por monates, mem por yares, e mem por sempre. Malgre to,= li komuniko hike kontinua, forsan isto no es maxim aktiva komuniko, ma tam= en it kontinua. Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Marcxjo scriv: > > Ha, jes, ofte pasan tiel kun la cateyos ay= retos de helplangos. Mi nuntempe ensalutan ce 2 cateyos pro Esperantistos,= ay rare oni respondan rapide. Same kun alia grupos tiatipa. > > Danko ayn= akaze pro respondi, Rosto, ay esan plezuro ekkoni yim! > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10302 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Hir es le fraze #39 in Intal: Intal Nul responde. Le non-kon= osat sinioro repeta su demande, ma vanim. Me dezira vos omni felisi paske!= Kordialim Doro --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: > > Voluntez ank= or-foye atencar nia specal frazo #39, > qua ja tradukesis aden la 17 sequan= ta LIA-sistemi: > Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Neo,= > Latino sine Flexione, Idiom Neutral, Adjuvilo, Mondial, LFN, > ARIEL, Eu= ralinga, Sambahsa, Sibelingua, LdP, Rapidlingue, Populido. > > > Esperant= o: > Neniu respondo. La nekonatulo ripetas sian peton, sed vane. > > Ido: = > Nula respondo. La siorulo ne-konocata repetas sua demando, ma vane. > > = Interlingua: > Nulle responde. Le senior incognite repete su demanda, sed i= n van. > > Occidental/Interlingue: > Null response. Li senior =EDnconosset= repetit su demande, ma in van. > > Neo: > Nil rispo. 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Chag Sameach Chaverim! Osmund Den 6. apr. 2012 k= l. 01:41 skrev "Dorothea" : > Kar Partaka! > > Hir= es le fraze #39 in Intal: > > Intal > Nul responde. Le non-konosat sinior= o repeta su demande, ma vanim. > > Me dezira vos omni felisi paske! > > K= ordialim > Doro > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=C3=B3: > > > > Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: > > > = > Voluntez ankor-foye atencar nia specal frazo #39, > > qua ja tradukesis a= den la 17 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > > Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Occidental= /Interlingue, Neo, > > Latino sine Flexione, Idiom Neutral, Adjuvilo, Mondi= al, LFN, > > ARIEL, Euralinga, Sambahsa, Sibelingua, LdP, Rapidlingue, Popu= lido. > > > > > > Esperanto: > > Neniu respondo. La nekonatulo ripetas si= an peton, sed vane. > > > > Ido: > > Nula respondo. La siorulo ne-konocata= repetas sua demando, ma vane. > > > > Interlingua: > > Nulle responde. Le= senior incognite repete su demanda, sed in van. > > > > Occidental/Interl= ingue: > > Null response. Li senior =C3=ADnconosset repetit su demande, ma = in van. > > > > Neo: > > Nil rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea ezigo, mo va= ne. > > > > Latino sine Flexione: > > Nullo responso. Viro ignoto repete s= uo petitione, sed in modo vano. > > > > Idiom Neutral: > > Noun respond. S= inioro no-konosed repet sue demand, ma vane. > > > > Adjuvilo: > > Nula re= spondo. La siro nekonocata ripetin sua demando, ma vane. > > > > Mondial: = > > Nul response. Le senior inconosate repeta su demande, ma in van. > > >= > LFN: > > No responde. La senior nonconoseda repete se esije, ma futil. >= > > > ARIEL: > > Nul response. Le senior incognosate repete su demande, m= a in van. > > > > Euralinga: > > Nula r=C3=A9sponde. La sen=C3=A9ro n=C3= =ADconos=C3=A1ta r=C3=A9pete sua peten, seda por nula. > > > > Sambahsa: >= > Neid antwehrd. Is negnohn poti repeteiht sien eiskwen, bet in vain. > > = > > Sibelingua: > > Nula respondo. Li senioro ne-konosata repeta su demand= o, ma vane. > > > > LdP: > > Jawaba yok. Garibe sinior repeti suy demanda,= bat vanem. > > > > Rapidlingue: > > Nul responde. Le deskognoskat senyoro= ripeta ilsu demande, pero vanim. > > > > Populido: > > Nul responde. Le s= ioro no-konosat repete sui pete, ma vanei. > > > > > > Se vi povas e dezi= ras lo, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #39 > > aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Nov= ial, Volap=C3=BCk, Mondlango/Ulango, > > Glosa od irg altra neutra helpo-li= ngui, quin vi konocas. > > > > (Me pregas vi memorar, ke en nia frazo #39 = ne aparas la koncepto > > "repetar questiono", ma "repetar demando" [Eo: "r= ipeti peton"]) > > > > Danko pro via kunlaboro. > > > > > > * * * * * * = * * > > p a r t a k a > > * * * * * * * * > > > > --Apple-Mail-16-1055376757 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Felize Pasce a vos omni!
Cha= g Sameach Chaverim!

Osmund

Den 6. apr. 2012 kl. 01:41 = skrev "Dorothea" <andoromeda83@= yahoo.de>:

=  
=

Kar Partaka!

Hir es le fraze #39 in Intal:=

Intal
Nul responde. Le non-konosat sinioro repeta su demande,= ma vanim.

Me dezira vos omni felisi paske!

Kordialim
= Doro

--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com<= /a>, "postamundi" escribi=C3=B3:
>
> K= ar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi:
>
> Voluntez ankor-foye aten= car nia specal frazo #39,
> qua ja tradukesis aden la 17 sequanta LI= A-sistemi:
> Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Ne= o,
> Latino sine Flexione, Idiom Neutral, Adjuvilo, Mondial, LFN, > ARIEL, Euralinga, Sambahsa, Sibelingua, LdP, Rapidlingue, Populido.<= br> >
>
> Esperanto:
> Neniu respondo. La nekonat= ulo ripetas sian peton, sed vane.
>
> Ido:
> Nula res= pondo. La siorulo ne-konocata repetas sua demando, ma vane.
>
&= gt; Interlingua:
> Nulle responde. Le senior incognite repete su dem= anda, sed in van.
>
> Occidental/Interlingue:
> Null = response. Li senior =C3=ADnconosset repetit su demande, ma in van.
>=
> Neo:
> Nil rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea ezigo, mo van= e.
>
> Latino sine Flexione:
> Nullo responso. Viro i= gnoto repete suo petitione, sed in modo vano.
>
> Idiom Neut= ral:
> Noun respond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue demand, ma vane. >
> Adjuvilo:
> Nula respondo. La siro nekonocata ripe= tin sua demando, ma vane.
>
> Mondial:
> Nul response= . Le senior inconosate repeta su demande, ma in van.
>
> LFN= :
> No responde. La senior nonconoseda repete se esije, ma futil. >
> ARIEL:
> Nul response. Le senior incognosate repete= su demande, ma in van.
>
> Euralinga:
> Nula r=C3=A9= sponde. La sen=C3=A9ro n=C3=ADconos=C3=A1ta r=C3=A9pete sua peten, seda por= nula.
>
> Sambahsa:
> Neid antwehrd. Is negnohn poti= repeteiht sien eiskwen, bet in vain.
>
> Sibelingua:
&g= t; Nula respondo. Li senioro ne-konosata repeta su demando, ma vane.
&g= t;
> LdP:
> Jawaba yok. Garibe sinior repeti suy demanda, ba= t vanem.
>
> Rapidlingue:
> Nul responde. Le deskogno= skat senyoro ripeta ilsu demande, pero vanim.
>
> Populido:<= br> > Nul responde. Le sioro no-konosat repete sui pete, ma vanei.
&= gt;
>
> Se vi povas e deziras lo, voluntez tradukar nia fra= zo #39
> aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Novial, Volap=C3=BCk, Mondlango= /Ulango,
> Glosa od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas.<= br> >
> (Me pregas vi memorar, ke en nia frazo #39 ne aparas la = koncepto
> "repetar questiono", ma "repetar demando" [Eo: "ripeti pe= ton"])
>
> Danko pro via kunlaboro.
>
>
= > * * * * * * * *
> p a r t a k a
> * * * * * * * *
&g= t;

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Yen un experimente por jurnal POSTA MUNDI= numero 15, in april: it esera tote aperta projekte. Yen li pagina del proj= ekte: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi:15 (Un rakonto in LdP ib= e ja prizenta, nam Dmitri in antei monate sendev it a me.) On pova nemediat= e, autonome meter e redaktar su materiale in li wiki-pagina o kuale kustuma= le sender a enioni@.... Omno relatanta li numero pova eser diskutata = hike che forum, o in li speciala pagina de diskusione, kuala es adjuntata a= kada wiki-artikulo: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi_talk:15 I= n li fine de april li numero esera konservata, forsan konvertata a pdf, if = to esera bezonata, e kuala esera li #16 in may, noi tande decidera. Rosto.= --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" scriv:= > > Amiko Rosto: > > Tua laboro kom chefa redaktero dil jurnalo POSTA MUN= DI > esas sempre plu bona, mem ecelanta. E me ne pensas, ke > me ne esas la= sola homo, qua pensas tale, hike, che nia grupo; > tamen, to ne signifikas= , ke tua laboro en nia "wikkii" ne povas > esar anke bona e mem ecelanta. T= u ipsa selektis la periodeso > di nia jurnalo, do tu anke povus chanjar olt= a, se tu preferas lo > nun, por tale agar plu tranquile e konsakrar plusa t= empo a nia "wikkii". > Se tu duras havar iluziono por publikigar POSTA MUND= I, olca povus > aparar, exemple, ye singla duesma monato, vice monatale, qu= ale til nun. > > Kurajo ed adavane (kun nia kunlaborado), Rostu! > > > *= * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@= yahoogroups.com, > "Rosto" skribis: > > Vere, yo r= eva cesar eser li chef-redaktor del jurnal POSTA MUNDI. Pro ke yo have plu = granda interese a wiki. Wiki anke pova eser utila por posta_Mundi! Ya, yo s= ave, ke che posta_Mundi tala antropes es, kel es kapabla editer un pdf-jurn= al. Certe exemplim lideplaistes pova. Eske esera mal if lideplaistes editer= a almene un numero? Yen, anke Thomas denov vole editer su IE MUNDE. Pro ko = no POSTA MUNDI? isto ya es preske lo sama! > > Yo have multa diversa idea= s koncernu postamundi.wikkii. Isto pova eser bona atrakcione! E jurnal... I= f alki plus okupara se pri it, to certe esera utila por li jurnale: nova vi= dpunkte, nova maniere - isto esud utila e interesanta por lektantes. No nec= ese un antrop konstante deve okupar se pri li jurnale, un numero darfa eser= fabrikat de un redaktore, sekuenta numero - da altra. > > Rosto. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10308 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 39280 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2012 18:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m13.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Apr 2012 18:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng11-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.135) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2012 18:38:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1333737514; bh=RqWY6VylvFLfTUhQpa3+tP8no8z7JeR+fJAJLAG2KHA=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=LpRg25tVzBG0jvKGkOYRYMP5d3xwHwSpewT5CehKJ8TuKwrnYYSq152BdndTa/VN8dm9gZQlzRLV1plPaHeDwj1AdLKcM8STB3i5TMf2BGigQYaaQkLuaBemwTCWMJw8 Received: from [98.137.0.83] by ng11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 18:38:34 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2012 18:38:34 -0000 X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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K= omo yu suksesi zwo se? Me'd yao zwo same kosa in Lidepla wiki, bat me bu ja= n komo. Dmitri --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3: > > Saluto, Partaka e omna forumanes! > Yen un e= xperimente por jurnal POSTA MUNDI numero 15, in april: > it esera tote aper= ta projekte. Yen li pagina del projekte: > http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wik= i/postaMundi:15 > (Un rakonto in LdP ibe ja prizenta, nam Dmitri in antei m= onate sendev it a me.) > On pova nemediate, autonome meter e redaktar su ma= teriale in li wiki-pagina o kuale kustumale sender a enioni@... Omno relata= nta li numero pova eser diskutata hike che forum, o in li speciala pagina d= e diskusione, kuala es adjuntata a kada wiki-artikulo: > http://postamundi.= wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi_talk:15 > In li fine de april li numero esera ko= nservata, forsan konvertata a pdf, if to esera bezonata, e kuala esera li #= 16 in may, noi tande decidera. > > Rosto. > > > --- In posta_Mundi@yahoo= groups.com, "postamundi" scriv: > > > > Amiko Rosto: > > > >= Tua laboro kom chefa redaktero dil jurnalo POSTA MUNDI > > esas sempre plu= bona, mem ecelanta. E me ne pensas, ke > > me ne esas la sola homo, qua pe= nsas tale, hike, che nia grupo; > > tamen, to ne signifikas, ke tua laboro = en nia "wikkii" ne povas > > esar anke bona e mem ecelanta. Tu ipsa selekti= s la periodeso > > di nia jurnalo, do tu anke povus chanjar olta, se tu pre= feras lo > > nun, por tale agar plu tranquile e konsakrar plusa tempo a nia= "wikkii". > > Se tu duras havar iluziono por publikigar POSTA MUNDI, olca = povus > > aparar, exemple, ye singla duesma monato, vice monatale, quale ti= l nun. > > > > Kurajo ed adavane (kun nia kunlaborado), Rostu! > > > > >= > * * * * * * * * > > p a r t a k a > > * * * * * * * * > > > > --- En = posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > > "Rosto" skribis: >= > > > Vere, yo reva cesar eser li chef-redaktor del jurnal POSTA MUNDI. P= ro ke yo have plu granda interese a wiki. Wiki anke pova eser utila por pos= ta_Mundi! Ya, yo save, ke che posta_Mundi tala antropes es, kel es kapabla = editer un pdf-jurnal. Certe exemplim lideplaistes pova. Eske esera mal if l= ideplaistes editera almene un numero? Yen, anke Thomas denov vole editer su= IE MUNDE. Pro ko no POSTA MUNDI? isto ya es preske lo sama! > > > > Yo h= ave multa diversa ideas koncernu postamundi.wikkii. Isto pova eser bona atr= akcione! E jurnal... If alki plus okupara se pri it, to certe esera utila p= or li jurnale: nova vidpunkte, nova maniere - isto esud utila e interesanta= por lektantes. No necese un antrop konstante deve okupar se pri li jurnale= , un numero darfa eser fabrikat de un redaktore, sekuenta numero - da altra= . > > > > Rosto. > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10309 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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SJEhAvw6P3s0XxTMs6vl0iTpAoDTPfeI- X-Received: from [2.136.17.140] by web28211.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:18:21 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <8DF31140D64047B6A4289AB9BA0C2EE6@e9aeba323fc848a> Message-ID: <1333743501.11447.YahooMailNeo@...> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 21:18:21 +0100 (BST) To: "posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com" In-Reply-To: <8DF31140D64047B6A4289AB9BA0C2EE6@e9aeba323fc848a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1332934599-1345548149-1333743501=:11447" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ila Mesajero Reply-To: Ila Mesajero Subject: KELKA NOVAJETI [VI.IV.MMXII] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=trs66y9lvYCrQb2o0SyH8wdr-D9Soz2Ils6QJZbCS6qgpBERvO_V X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero --1332934599-1345548149-1333743501=:114447 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Da Jean Martignon, che plura Ido-forumi) =C2=A0 Venerdie, ye la 6ma di a= prilo 2012. =C2=A0 Dio di santa Marcelinus. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 DIO-PROVERBO / A= dube la kordio inklinas, la pedo moveskas. =C2=A0 ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-= signo dil Arieto guvernata dal planeto Marso. =C2=A0 VETERO / Sat sunoza c= ielo, cajorne, en Francilia. =C2=A0 KONCIZE =C2=A0 JAPONIA / LIKADO DI AQU= O RADIOAKTIVA EN LA=C2=A0FABRIKERIO DI FUKUSHIMA Aproxime 12 tuni de aquo = radioaktiva likis de la nukleala fabrikerio acidentita di Fukushima en Jap= onia, e parto de ta liquido probable forfluis a la maro. La kompanio Tokyo= Electric Power (Tepco) explikis ke ica forfluo deskovresis hiere matine e= ke ol quik reparesis. Cirkum 120 tuni de aquo radioaktiva ja eskapis de c= a fabrikerio dum la pasinta monato; =C2=A0 SIRIA / AMASALA DEPARTI A TURK= IA Plu kam 1.000 refujinti Siriana eniris Turkia de merkurdio til hiere, t= o quo irigas til 20.900 la nombro de Siriani gastigata en Turkia. Pro ke 8= 0 personi mortigesis lor violentaji dum la sama dio, la chefo dil Franca d= iplomacistaro, Alain Juppe, deklaris ke il "ne esas optimista" koncerne l'= apliko dal rejimo Siriana dil programo di la specala sendato di UN/ONU e d= i la Federuro Araba, Kofi Annan. La Reda-Kruco deklaris tamen hiere ke ol = balde povos vizitar la karceri. =C2=A0 Alain Juppe =C2=A0 ISRAEL / FRAPO D= A SUPROPULSANTA PROJEKTILO PAFITA DE EGIPTIA Unesmafoye depos la destroni= zo di Hosni Mubarak, supropulsanta projektilo pafita del Egiptiana parto d= e Sinai explozis hiere en la balnala staciono di Eilat, sud-Israel, sen pr= oduktar viktimi. La dicita explozo 'okuris' dum ke tre grandanombra Israela= ni e turisti esas en Eilat, okazione di la celebro di Pessah, la Hebrea Pa= sko, quik de morge vespere. =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. J= M :::-::: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --1332934599-1345548149-1333743501=:114447 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Jean Martign= on, che plura Ido-forumi)
 
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Venerdie, ye la 6= ma di aprilo 2012.
 
Dio di santa Marcelinus.
 
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= DIO-PROVERBO / Adube la kordio inklinas, la = pedo moveskas.
 
ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo d= il Arieto guvernata dal planeto Marso.
 
VETERO / Sat sunoza cielo, cajorne, en Francilia.<= /div>
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KONCIZE
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JAPONIA /= LIKADO DI AQUO RADIOAKTIVA EN LA FABRIKERIO DI FUKUSHIMA<= /div>
Aproxime 12 tuni= de aquo radioaktiva likis de la nukleala fabrikerio acidentita di Fukushi= ma en Japonia, e parto de ta liquido probable forfluis a la maro. La kompa= nio Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) explikis ke ica forfluo deskovresis hiere= matine e ke ol quik reparesis. Cirkum 120 tuni de aquo radioaktiva ja esk= apis de ca fabrikerio dum la pasinta monato;
 
SIRIA / AMASALA DEPARTI A TURKI= A
Plu= kam 1.000 refujinti Siriana eniris Turkia de merkurdio til hiere, to quo = irigas til 20.900 la nombro de Siriani gastigata en Turkia. Pro ke 80 pers= oni mortigesis lor violentaji dum la sama dio, la chefo dil Franca diploma= cistaro, Alain Juppe, deklaris ke il "ne esas optimista" koncerne l'apliko= dal rejimo Siriana dil programo di la specala sendato di UN/ONU e di la F= ederuro Araba, Kofi Annan. La Reda-Kruco deklaris tamen hiere ke ol balde = povos vizitar la karceri.
 
3D"Alain
Alain Juppe
 
ISRAEL / FRAPO DA SUPROPULSANTA PROJE= KTILO PAFITA DE EGIPTIA
Unesmafoye depos la destronizo di Hosni Mubarak, supro= pulsanta projektilo pafita del Egiptiana parto de Sinai explozis hiere en = la balnala staciono di Eilat, sud-Israel, sen produktar viktimi. La dicita= explozo 'okuris' dum ke tre grandanombra Israelani e turisti esas en Eila= t, okazione di la celebro di Pessah, la Hebrea Pasko, quik de morge vesper= e.
 
= Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::
 
 
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--1332934599-1345548149-1333743501=:114447-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10310 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 85792 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2012 00:10:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2012 00:10:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng7-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.48) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2012 00:10:24 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.120] by ng7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2012 00:10:23 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by tg1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2012 00:10:23 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:10:23 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #39 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=KTy_nR2BpuVxzVAfKTafHzRXke6dy8QQxE5swqI36aqEXymY0n8tmfA X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: Voluntez mem ankor-foye admirar nia specal frazo= #39, qua ja tradukesis aden la 18 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, In= terlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Intal, Neo, Latino sine Flexione, Idiom = Neutral, Adjuvilo, Mondial, LFN, ARIEL, Euralinga, Sambahsa, Sibelingua, Ld= P, Rapidlingue, Populido. Esperanto: Neniu respondo. La nekonatulo ripeta= s sian peton, sed vane. Ido: Nula respondo. La siorulo ne-konocata repetas= sua demando, ma vane. Interlingua: Nulle responde. Le senior incognite re= pete su demanda, sed in van. Occidental/Interlingue: Null response. Li sen= ior =EDnconosset repetit su demande, ma in van. Intal: Nul responde. Le no= n-konosat sinioro repeta su demande, ma vanim. Neo: Nil rispo. Lo nokonat = siro ripar lea ezigo, mo vane. Latino sine Flexione: Nullo responso. Viro = ignoto repete suo petitione, sed in modo vano. Idiom Neutral: Noun respond= . Sinioro no-konosed repet sue demand, ma vane. Adjuvilo: Nula respondo. L= a siro nekonocata ripetin sua demando, ma vane. Mondial: Nul response. Le = senior inconosate repeta su demande, ma in van. LFN: No responde. La senio= r nonconoseda repete se esije, ma futil. ARIEL: Nul response. Le senior in= cognosate repete su demande, ma in van. Euralinga: Nula r=E9sponde. La sen= =E9ro n=EDconos=E1ta r=E9pete sua peten, seda por nula. Sambahsa: Neid ant= wehrd. Is negnohn poti repeteiht sien eiskwen, bet in vain. Sibelingua: Nu= la respondo. Li senioro ne-konosata repeta su demando, ma vane. LdP: Jawab= a yok. Garibe sinior repeti suy demanda, bat vanem. Rapidlingue: Nul respo= nde. Le deskognoskat senyoro ripeta ilsu demande, pero vanim. Populido: Nu= l responde. Le sioro no-konosat repete sui pete, ma vanei. Se vi povas e = deziras lo, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #39 aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Nov= ial, Volap=FCk, Mondlango/Ulango, Glosa od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, q= uin vi konocas. (Me pregas vi memorar, ke en nia frazo #39 ne aparas la ko= ncepto "repetar questiono", ma "repetar demando" [Eo: "ripeti peton"]) Vi = omna standez bone! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10311 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Kuale chanjar sistemi mesajes es skrita hike: http://postamu= ndi.wikkii.com/wiki/Help:Kuale_on_pova_tradukar_o_editer_mesajes_de_wiki Yo= nun adjuntav ibe plus detalies pri li tema. If tamen alko no es klara, yo = dara plus explikaciones. Anke yo pova anunciar, ke nun (de ante-hiere) no = omna sistemi mesajes tradukata es in Sibelingua, nam semble yo trovav nun l= i voye far isto plu neutrala. Almene li bazal mesajes, kel on vide nemedia= te sinistre e supre, nun es in 5 euroklones, in kel wikipedia existe nun. D= e wikipedia ipsa yo kopiav ta skribajes. Durantu un hore ili chanja un altr= u: Minutes de kada hore: 0-11 - Esperanto; 12-23 - Ido; 24-35 - Occidental;= 36-47 - Novial; 48-59 - Interlingua. Tale, li lingua aparanta depende de t= empe kande vi entra un pagina de postamundi.wikkii (Por te, Dmitri, evident= e, tala truko no es bezonata) Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,= "lingwadeplaneta" escribi=F3: > > Me vidi ke tote wi= ki es yo Sibelinguisi-ney, oli skriba es pa Sibelingua. Komo yu suksesi zwo= se? Me'd yao zwo same kosa in Lidepla wiki, bat me bu jan komo. > > Dmit= ri > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10312 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10333 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2012 10:29:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2012 10:29:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng19-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.239) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2012 10:29:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1333794560; bh=wb6UgAePgHz/IyMKZZvbN/XvRmPCMVZHg+2vadjyWqg=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=V/0a8lCDf1Fj/kPJo0CFHKEPI5gQpgKrvw0ZPDLYEK2IKSFLYPse1zAXj5Jm1BrLzkouNfSXJIf1elsNuUrKCzrMebI6GnTlSzQPhVfjrhv20wPFiGDGv1vn7hcs4hmw Received: from [98.137.0.82] by ng19.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2012 10:29:20 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2012 10:29:20 -0000 X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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Me pai zwo se! --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto= " escribi=F3: > > Salam, Dmitri! > Kuale chanjar = sistemi mesajes es skrita hike: > http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Help:Ku= ale_on_pova_tradukar_o_editer_mesajes_de_wiki > Yo nun adjuntav ibe plus de= talies pri li tema. If tamen alko no es klara, yo dara plus explikaciones. = > > Anke yo pova anunciar, ke nun (de ante-hiere) no omna sistemi mesajes = tradukata es in Sibelingua, nam semble yo trovav nun li voye far isto plu n= eutrala. Almene li bazal mesajes, kel on vide nemediate sinistre e supre, = nun es in 5 euroklones, in kel wikipedia existe nun. De wikipedia ipsa yo k= opiav ta skribajes. Durantu un hore ili chanja un altru: > Minutes de kada = hore: > 0-11 - Esperanto; > 12-23 - Ido; > 24-35 - Occidental; > 36-47 - No= vial; > 48-59 - Interlingua. > Tale, li lingua aparanta depende de tempe ka= nde vi entra un pagina de postamundi.wikkii > (Por te, Dmitri, evidente, ta= la truko no es bezonata) > > Rosto. > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups= .com, "lingwadeplaneta" escribi=F3: > > > > Me vidi ke t= ote wiki es yo Sibelinguisi-ney, oli skriba es pa Sibelingua. Komo yu sukse= si zwo se? Me'd yao zwo same kosa in Lidepla wiki, bat me bu jan komo. > >= > > Dmitri > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10313 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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La muri di la urbo krulis, domi esis=C2=A0brulata e multa civitan= i mortis.=C2=A0Dum la sequanta semani=C2=A0Attila=C2=A0procedis vers Orl=C3= =A9ans. Il esis repulsata da armei di la Visigoti e Romani, e=C2=A0ye la ba= talio di Chalons-sur-Marne, proxim Reims, la armeo di Attila esis vinkata, = quankam Theodorik, rejulo di la Visigoti, ocidesis.=C2=A0Attila retroiris a= sua hemo, por pluse kampaniar en 452. =C2=A0 1652. Jan van Riebeeck ed alt= ri de la Nederlandana Est-India- Kompanio ("Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compag= nie")=C2=A0komencis establisar kolonieto=C2=A0an la rivo di sudala Afrika, = por provizar voyajanti ad Azia per fresha aquo e nutraji. La kolonieto plu = tarde divenis la urbo Cape Town. =C2=A0 1803. Toussaint L'Ouverture mortis = en karcero en Francia. Il esis sklavo de nasko; il partoprenis revolto en S= an Domingo, nuntempa Haiti, kontre Franca koloniisti, komencante en 1791. E= n mayo 1801 il divenis guvernanto di San Domingo. Napolean, dezitante ri-im= pozar sklaveso, sendis soldati a la insulo; Toussaint rebelesis ed eventual= e esis kaptata. =C2=A0 Kordiale DGW =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --1707989683-1329918038-1333796418=:53500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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451.&nb= sp;Attila e lua armeo, avancinte de lia hemo en estala Europa alonge la flu= vii Danubio e Rheno, e pasinte = la urbo Trier, an la fluvio Mos= elle, sen atakar ol, sucesoze atakis ye ca dio la urbo Metz (en n= untempa Francia). La muri di la urbo krulis, domi esis brulata e multa= civitani mortis. Dum la sequanta semani Attila procedis vers Orl=C3=A9ans. Il esis repulsa= ta da armei di la Visigoti e Romani, e ye la batalio di Chalons-sur-Ma= rne, proxim Reims, la armeo di Attila esis vinkata, quankam Theodorik, reju= lo di la Visigoti, ocidesis. Attila retroiris a sua hemo, por pluse kampaniar en 452.
 
1652. Jan van Riebeeck ed altri de l= a Nederlandana Est-India- Kompa= nio ("Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie") komencis establisar kolonie= to an la rivo di sudala Afrika, por provizar voyajanti ad Azia per fre= sha aquo e nutraji. La kolonieto plu tarde divenis la urbo Cape Town.
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1803. Toussaint L'Ouverture mortis en karcero en Francia. Il= esis sklavo de nasko; il partoprenis revolto en San Domingo, nuntempa Hait= i, kontre Franca koloniisti, komencante en 1791. En mayo 1801 il divenis guvernanto di San Domingo. Napole= an, dezitante ri-impozar sklaveso, sendis soldati a la insulo; Toussaint re= belesis ed eventuale esis kaptata.
 
Kordiale DGW
 
 
 
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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Partaka Reply-To: Partaka Subject: Wikivortaro-LIA (statistiki) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=1ug4yhh683Mh7jY9xgLyv_eFxhpJL8Xa5JbPL7kFZhtdRywkkYrdqqo X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Estimata samskopani: Yen ankor-foye maxim recenta statistiki=A0pri omna LI= A-sistemi, qui havas ofical wikivortaro, che Wikipedia. Tala statistiki mon= tras la prezenta poziciono di singla wikivortaro, e la nombro de pagini pub= likigita, til hodie, per singla helpo-linguo. 14. Ido: 193.467 43. Espera= nto: 24.663 44. Volapuk: 23.539 93. Interlingua: 1.686 127. Interlingue: 1= 84 144. Lojban: 85 Saluti e til balde! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * *= =A0 [p_M] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi=A0 From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10316 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 8826 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2012 18:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m16.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2012 18:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng13-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.161) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2012 18:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.83] by ng13.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2012 18:50:19 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by tg3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2012 18:50:19 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:50:17 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Frazo #39 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=9mZSDHIkqq8zEHMCQkfAWvL_xCMbx3140cDydqvH4UzrG6eUQ-s-Xqk X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Tik-tak, p_M-ani! Semblas a me, ke kun la helpo da nia nova amiko, Mark, o= da irgu altra, qua konocas Mondlango/Ulango sat bone, me ipsa povas audac= ar tradukar nia frazo #39 aden ta LIA; tale, se omno en ordino, me povos in= kluzar du plusa tradukuri en mea nexta listo, nome olta en Novial (qua hodi= e sendesis dal amiko James, quan me risalutas maxim kordiale) ed olta en M= ondlango/Ulango. Lore, ni havos nia frazo en 20 LIA-sistemi. Mondlango/Ula= ngo: Nula respondo. La mistulo nekonata ripetas hia demando, sed vane. Me= pregas vi avertar me, kaze ke esas ula eroro en mea tradukuro, por ke tale= me povez emendar olta ed adjuntar Monda en la listo. Predanko e til bald= e, estimati! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En post= a_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler skribis: Novial: Nu= l respondo. Li sinioro nonkonosat repeti sen prego, ma vanim. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10317 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=341519187; y=cwepxsZtMenEYKYWHh_uOgL7VUgY7KPe04xCwFstCLLLpok4GQ X-Yahoo-Profile: valodnieks Car amices del lingues international! Yo vole informar vos que yo ha funda= t un nov Yahoo gruppe por Interlingue-Occidental. Yo invita vos partiprende= r in ti gruppe si vu es interessat in li lingue de Edgar de Wahl http://de= .groups.yahoo.com/group/interlingue-occidental/ Yo devet fundar un nov gru= ppe de Interlingue-Occidental pos yo esset bannit in li old gruppe pro fund= ar un Facebook gruppe de Interlingue-Occidental. Li proprietario del old gr= uppe Francois C considerat to quam un atacca a su gruppe malgre yo esset tr= e activ in ti gruppe. Amicalmen e felici pasca! Thomas From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10319 Return-Path: X-Sender: valodnieks@... 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Esas granda honoro por me ke tu pensas ke me povas redaktar la= jurnalo Posta Mundi. Me dankas tu pro to. Regretinde me ne havas suficanta= tempo por tala laboro. Me certe ne esus kapabla publigikar Posta Mundi en = simila qualiteso e frequenteso quale tu. Me ne intencas publikigar IE Mund= e omna monato. Do ne esos tro multa laboro. Me volas questionar tu pri tu= a Wiki. Qualan linguin on darfas uzar en la WikiA di Posta Mundi? Me volunt= e povus skriar anke artikli en la WikiA. Amikale Thomas --- En posta_M= undi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3: > > Ver= e, yo reva cesar eser li chef-redaktor del jurnal POSTA MUNDI. Pro ke yo ha= ve plu granda interese a wiki. Wiki anke pova eser utila por posta_Mundi! Y= a, yo save, ke che posta_Mundi tala antropes es, kel es kapabla editer un p= df-jurnal. Certe exemplim lideplaistes pova. Eske esera mal if lideplaistes= editera almene un numero? Yen, anke Thomas denov vole editer su IE MUNDE. = Pro ko no POSTA MUNDI? isto ya es preske lo sama! > > Yo have multa divers= a ideas koncernu postamundi.wikkii. Isto pova eser bona atrakcione! E jurna= l... If alki plus okupara se pri it, to certe esera utila por li jurnale: n= ova vidpunkte, nova maniere - isto esud utila e interesanta por lektantes. = No necese un antrop konstante deve okupar se pri li jurnale, un numero darf= a eser fabrikat de un redaktore, sekuenta numero - da altra. > > Rosto. > = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10320 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 51175 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2012 10:47:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Apr 2012 10:47:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng11-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.198) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2012 10:47:15 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.176] by ng11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2012 10:47:14 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2012 10:47:14 -0000 Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:47:13 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: jurnal POSTA MUNDI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=Ma-lKWI90qRbPrkTheJhpCVBFR14yDbm1fh6QqLpbhc_a3xQkDYFPr8PqaWg X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Oke, Thomas. Li jurnal POSTA MUNDI nun es integrata al wiki, e tala sistema= es ankor experimentala. Pri li wiki de posta_Mundi: postamundi.wikkii.com= no have alkel speciala regules, separata del forum e del grupe posta_Mundi= . Isto es un parte de posta_Mundi, kuala it es che Yahoo, e it esev kreata = nur por realizar kozes teknikale no posibla o no oportuna che Yahoo. Wiki d= e posta_Mundi es nur un teknikala instrumente del grupe e nule es un autono= ma projekte. If dir pri linguala politika, yen ke segun li lasta inkueste c= he posta_Mundi, li votes de 13 participantes del inkueste es tala: 8 parti= cipantes opiniona ke che posta_Mundi irga internacionala artificiala ling= uas darfa eser uzata. 4 votes es, ke nur diversa euroklones (per altra term= inologia, inter-komprenebla kun ENIONI) linguas es apta. 1 antrop opiniona,= ke noi deve eser limitata per kelka konkreta linguas kuale: Esperanto, Idi= om Neutral, Ido, Occidental, Interlingua. Nulki selektav li variante, ke no= i deve nur uzar Esperanto, Ido e Interlingua hike. Vok populi es vok dei := ) , e ista rezultates del inkueste es tote same valida por li postamundi.wi= kkii.com kuale por posta_Mundi che Yahoo. Koncernu artikles in li wiki de = posta_Mundi, yo forsan deve dir, ke if exemple un artikle es skrita in Occi= dental, forsan posim texte in altra artificiala linguas pova eser adjuntata= , e esto esera normala (almene yo tale opiniona, ma ta regules darfa eser c= hanjata dal grupe). De un latere, omna linguas uzata che posta_Mundi darfa = eser regardata kom un lingua in diversa dialektes, de altra latere, autonom= ia de linguas-dialektes uzata, segun tradicione anke es respektata. E if d= ir koncernu Occidental, yen "Radicarium de Occidental": http://postamundi.w= ikkii.com/wiki/Radicarium_de_Occidental In ideala kaze, omna ta vortes pova= haver su artikles :) Wiki de posta_Mundi no es supozata eser un enciklope= dia, kuankam it darfa anke servar kom enciklopedia, pro ko no? Segun su ese= ncie, wiki es nur un teknikal instrumente de posta_Mundi, e kuale uzar ista= instrumente nur li grupe e membres del grupe darfa decider. Kompreneble, n= oi deve pensar anke, eske noi pova far postamundi.wikkii.com interesanta e = utila por omna interesates in li munde, no nur por membres de nosi grupe. = Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" escr= ibi=F3: > > Kara Rosto! > > Esas granda honoro por me ke tu pensas ke me p= ovas redaktar la jurnalo Posta Mundi. Me dankas tu pro to. Regretinde me ne= havas suficanta tempo por tala laboro. Me certe ne esus kapabla publigikar= Posta Mundi en simila qualiteso e frequenteso quale tu. > > Me ne intenca= s publikigar IE Munde omna monato. Do ne esos tro multa laboro. > > Me vo= las questionar tu pri tua Wiki. Qualan linguin on darfas uzar en la WikiA d= i Posta Mundi? Me volunte povus skriar anke artikli en la WikiA. > > Amika= le > Thomas > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3: > > > > Vere, yo reva cesar eser li chef-redakt= or del jurnal POSTA MUNDI. Pro ke yo have plu granda interese a wiki. Wiki = anke pova eser utila por posta_Mundi! Ya, yo save, ke che posta_Mundi tala = antropes es, kel es kapabla editer un pdf-jurnal. Certe exemplim lideplaist= es pova. Eske esera mal if lideplaistes editera almene un numero? Yen, anke= Thomas denov vole editer su IE MUNDE. Pro ko no POSTA MUNDI? isto ya es pr= eske lo sama! > > > > Yo have multa diversa ideas koncernu postamundi.wikk= ii. Isto pova eser bona atrakcione! E jurnal... If alki plus okupara se pri= it, to certe esera utila por li jurnale: nova vidpunkte, nova maniere - is= to esud utila e interesanta por lektantes. No necese un antrop konstante de= ve okupar se pri li jurnale, un numero darfa eser fabrikat de un redaktore,= sekuenta numero - da altra. > > > > Rosto. > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10321 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Rosto. = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10322 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 10473 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2012 08:22:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m13.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2012 08:22:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng1-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.5) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2012 08:22:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.88] by ng1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2012 08:21:59 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2012 08:21:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:21:58 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: Logotipes de IALes X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=SbVsDbMmqI0dnNr-YQZEn_tc45zhRR0ayaujYmCbxcZA5faR9itcFdmHcytE X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Las nos kolekcionar logotipes de artificiala linguas. Li kolekcione es sur = li frontispicie del wiki de posta_Mundi http://postamundi.wikkii.com If vi = save pri plusa existenta logotipes, bonvole informa pri to. Li kolekcione h= ave un utila funkciono, it dona vizuala id=E9a pri ko es posta_Mundi. Anke = li logotipes serva kom ligiles. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10323 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Esperanto: N= eniu respondo. La nekonatulo ripetas sian peton, sed vane. Ido: Nula respo= ndo. La siorulo ne-konocata repetas sua demando, ma vane. Interlingua: Nul= le responde. Le senior incognite repete su demanda, sed in van. Occidental= /Interlingue: Null response. Li senior =EDnconosset repetit su demande, ma = in van. Novial: Nul respondo. Li sinioro nonkonosat repeti sen prego, ma = vanim. Intal: Nul responde. Le non-konosat sinioro repeta su demande, ma v= anim. Neo: Nil rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea ezigo, mo vane. Latino si= ne Flexione: Nullo responso. Viro ignoto repete suo petitione, sed in modo = vano. Idiom Neutral: Noun respond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue demand, ma= vane. Adjuvilo: Nula respondo. La siro nekonocata ripetin sua demando, ma= vane. Mondial: Nul response. Le senior inconosate repeta su demande, ma i= n van. LFN: No responde. La senior nonconoseda repete se esije, ma futil. = Mondlango/Ulango: Nula respondo. La mistulo nekonata ripetas hia demando, = sed vane. ARIEL: Nul response. Le senior incognosate repete su demande, ma= in van. Euralinga: Nula r=E9sponde. La sen=E9ro n=EDconos=E1ta r=E9pete s= ua peten, seda por nula. Sambahsa: Neid antwehrd. Is negnohn poti repeteih= t sien eiskwen, bet in vain. Sibelingua: Nula respondo. Li senioro ne-kono= sata repeta su demando, ma vane. LdP: Jawaba yok. Garibe sinior repeti suy= demanda, bat vanem. Rapidlingue: Nul responde. Le deskognoskat senyoro ri= peta ilsu demande, pero vanim. Populido: Nul responde. Le sioro no-konosat= repete sui pete, ma vanei. Se vi povas e deziras lo, voluntez tradukar n= ia frazo #39 aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Volap=FCk, Glosa od irg altra neu= tra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas. (Voluntez memorar, ke en nia frazo #39= ne aparas la koncepto "repetar questiono", ma "repetar demando" [Eo: "ripe= ti peton"]) Danko pro via jentila kunlaboro. * * * * * * * * p a r t a k= a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10324 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Sylvia Pankhurst (12) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=tV3_F2ZlMIaVhS1WYMnHF-0iAi-ngmPr65V0vnfXLu4KVLMVYis6Q-53ArZX X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 DELPHOS. FUTURO DI INTERNACIONALA LINGUO da E. SYLVIA PANKHURST supozante = de yaro 1926 tradukuro de la Angla a Ido IDO La Expozo en Paris en la yar= o 1900 esis oportuna kazo di renkontro por homi di avancanta idei e interna= cionala simpatii de omna landi. Franciana profesoro di matematiko, dil nomo= Leau, uzis la bonchanco dil horo kolektante grupo ek cientisti por organiz= ar "Delegaciono por la Adopto di Auxiliara Linguo", qua agez por ke la jus = kreita Internacionala Asociuro di Akademii certe selektez internacionala li= nguo. Triacent e triadek e un delegiti di erudita societi e 1200 individual= a akademiani esis en la listo; ma en 1907 la Asociuro di Akademii deklaris = su ne-kompetenta pri la temo. La Delegaciono do decidis esteblisar su ipsa = kom la judikanta institucuro e rekomendis Esperanto, modifikita en certena = direciono. Siori Couturat e Leau, la trezoristo e la sekretario de la Deleg= aciono, profesoro Jespersen de Copenhagen, Ostwald de Leipzig, Baudoin de C= ourtenay de St Peterburg, la Marquis de Beaufront, e altri esev komisita in= teragar kun la Esperantistala Linguistikala Komitato; ma la Esperantistala = Komitato refuzis mem diskutar pri la temo. La Delegaciono tande adoptis mod= ifikuro de Esperanto, nomizita Ido (1). Per tala nomo ol simple konfesas su= kom modifikita Esperanto. La du versioni es proxime ligita. Amba havas sua= adeptaro, ma la Esperantisti es multe plu granda grupo. Es asertata, ke Id= o havas centri en 21 landi. En 1894 doktoro Zamenhof ipsa propozabis modif= ikuri por Esperanto. Co esis ofrata al lektanti de mikra jurnalo Esperanto;= ma nam nur poka votes esis recevita, il decidis konservar la linguo kuala = ol esis publikita originale. De ta tempo la Esperantisti rezistas chanji. = Varianti de Esperanto inkluzas Antido, Lingvo Kosmopolita, Esperantido, e N= ov-Esperanto da doktoro Ren=E9 de Saussure de Switzerlando, qua dum multa y= ari esis membro de la Esperantala Akademio e qua laboris en harmonio kun ta= institucuro. Doktoro Max Talmey, en USA, produktis varianto di Ido nomizit= a Ilo, quo es la abreviuro di "Internacionala Linguo", plus "o", la neevite= bla Ido-Esperantala dezinencio di substantivi. Tala informajo es, ke "Ilo" = esev la nomo di Ido en du unesma yari de la existo de ol. (1) - Originale = bazita sur projekto prizentita da Marquis de Beaufront. [...] From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10325 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Yo ha pozat le nov logotipe de Rapidlingue in ti kolektione et = yo ha skribat un detaliat artikle in le WikiA de Posta Mundi re Rapidlingue= . http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Rapidlingue Le flage de Rapidlingue in= ti kolektione funktiona tamben quam internet-linke al artikle re le lingue= . Le Wikia de Posta Mundi es verim un muy bun ide! Kordialim Doro ___= _____________________________ Von: Rosto A= n: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: 10:21 Montag, 9.April 2012 Betref= f: [posta_Mundi] Logotipes de IALes =C2=A0 Las nos kolekcionar logotipe= s de artificiala linguas. Li kolekcione es sur li frontispicie del wiki de = posta_Mundi http://postamundi.wikkii.com If vi save pri plusa existenta log= otipes, bonvole informa pri to. Li kolekcione have un utila funkciono, it d= ona vizuala id=C3=A9a pri ko es posta_Mundi. Anke li logotipes serva kom li= giles. 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Kar Rosto!=

Yo ha pozat le nov logo= tipe de Rapidlingue in ti kolektione et yo ha skribat un detaliat artikle i= n le WikiA de Posta Mundi re Rapidlingue.
http://postamund= i.wikkii.com/wiki/Rapidlingue

Le flage de Rapidlin= gue in ti kolektione funktiona tamben quam internet-linke al artikle re le = lingue.

Le Wikia de Posta M= undi es verim un muy bun ide!

= Kordialim
Doro

Von: Rosto =
An: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com
Gesendet: 10::21 Montag, 9.April 2012
Betreff: [posta_Mundi] Logotipes = de IALes

 
Las nos kolekcionar logotipes de arti= ficiala linguas. Li kolekcione es sur li frontispicie del wiki de posta_Mun= di http://postamundi.wikkii.com
If vi save pri plusa existenta log= otipes, bonvole informa pri to.
Li kolekcione have un utila funkciono, = it dona vizuala id=C3=A9a pri ko es posta_Mundi. Anke li logotipes serva ko= m ligiles.

Rosto.

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Li artikle pri Rapidlingue nun, semble, es li maxi= m detaloza artikle pri artificiala lingua che postamundi.wikkii. Rosto. = --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Doroothea Winkelhofer = scriv: > > Kar Rosto! > > Yo ha pozat le nov logotipe de Rapidlingue in t= i kolektione et yo ha skribat un detaliat artikle in le WikiA de Posta Mund= i re Rapidlingue. > http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Rapidlingue > > Le f= lage de Rapidlingue in ti kolektione funktiona tamben quam internet-linke a= l artikle re le lingue. > > > Le Wikia de Posta Mundi es verim un muy bun= ide! > > Kordialim > Doro > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10329 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 96187 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2012 08:50:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2012 08:50:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng7-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.83) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2012 08:50:08 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.88] by ng7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2012 08:50:06 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2012 08:50:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:50:04 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "elendito" Subject: RE: Frazo #39 (tradukuri) --> 0mnial X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286874271; y=E-FXavRhTcDe3NvokAOHF8qs7fEr4oyaAx9y0x5sO2cYe2U X-Yahoo-Profile: elendito Iste es le 0mnialike transduktade: "Nul respondade, le incognosed segnio= re repeta sial petade, sed afruktim." Amikim JB --- En posta_Mundi@yaho= ogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Kar amiki dil gr= upo posta_Mundi: > > Me pregas vi ankor-foye atencar nia specal frazo #39,= > qua ja tradukesis aden la 20 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > Esperanto, Ido, Int= erlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, > Intal, Neo, Latino sine Flexio= ne, Idiom Neutral, Adjuvilo, > Mondial, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, ARIEL, Eural= inga, > Sambahsa, Sibelingua, LdP, Rapidlingue, Populido. > > > Esperant= o: > Neniu respondo. La nekonatulo ripetas sian peton, sed vane. > > Ido: = > Nula respondo. La siorulo ne-konocata repetas sua demando, ma vane. > > = Interlingua: > Nulle responde. Le senior incognite repete su demanda, sed i= n van. > > Occidental/Interlingue: > Null response. Li senior =EDnconosset= repetit su demande, ma in van. > > Novial: > Nul respondo. Li sinioro no= nkonosat repeti sen prego, ma vanim. > > Intal: > Nul responde. Le non-kon= osat sinioro repeta su demande, ma vanim. > > Neo: > Nil rispo. Lo nokonat= siro ripar lea ezigo, mo vane. > > Latino sine Flexione: > Nullo responso= . Viro ignoto repete suo petitione, sed in modo vano. > > Idiom Neutral: >= Noun respond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue demand, ma vane. > > Adjuvilo:= > Nula respondo. La siro nekonocata ripetin sua demando, ma vane. > > Mon= dial: > Nul response. Le senior inconosate repeta su demande, ma in van. > = > LFN: > No responde. La senior nonconoseda repete se esije, ma futil. > = > Mondlango/Ulango: > Nula respondo. La mistulo nekonata ripetas hia demand= o, sed vane. > > ARIEL: > Nul response. Le senior incognosate repete su de= mande, ma in van. > > Euralinga: > Nula r=E9sponde. La sen=E9ro n=EDconos= =E1ta r=E9pete sua peten, seda por nula. > > Sambahsa: > Neid antwehrd. Is= negnohn poti repeteiht sien eiskwen, bet in vain. > > Sibelingua: > Nula = respondo. Li senioro ne-konosata repeta su demando, ma vane. > > LdP: > Ja= waba yok. Garibe sinior repeti suy demanda, bat vanem. > > Rapidlingue: > = Nul responde. Le deskognoskat senyoro ripeta ilsu demande, pero vanim. > >= Populido: > Nul responde. Le sioro no-konosat repete sui pete, ma vanei. >= > > Se vi povas e deziras lo, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #39 > aden plu= sa LIA-sistemi qual Volap=FCk, Glosa od irg altra neutra > helpo-lingui, = quin vi konocas. > > (Voluntez memorar, ke en nia frazo #39 ne aparas la k= oncepto > "repetar questiono", ma "repetar demando" [Eo: "ripeti peton"]) >= > Danko pro via jentila kunlaboro. > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k = a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10331 Return-Path: X-Sender: elendito@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65899 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2012 09:05:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m16.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2012 09:05:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng8-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.96) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2012 09:05:20 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.87] by ng8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2012 09:05:20 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2012 09:05:20 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:05:19 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "elendito" Subject: RE: Frazo #38 (tradukuri) anke en Omnial X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286874271; y=ifhy2LHcLnNyD2_GEI977sU2nbbUop6pdHBV63MMqHDTUyw X-Yahoo-Profile: elendito Yenci iste preterital labore: "Juvene antropul intrit en antike eklesie = con sial plus vetule filiul, ilulal juvene filiin et ilinal parve puere." = Fratim. JB --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Maxim kordial saluto! > > Voluntez ankor-foye ate= ncar nia frazo #38, > qua ja tradukesis aden la 12 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > = Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, > Idiom Neutral, Lati= no sine Flexione, LFN, Euralinga, > ARIEL, Sambahsa, Sibelingua, Populido.= > > > Esperanto: > Maljuna viro eniris malnovan preghejon kun sia pli ma= ljuna filo, > ties pli juna filino kaj chi ties beleta bebo. > > Ido: > Ol= da viro eniris anciena kirko kun sua seniora filiulo, > ilua juniora filiin= o ed elua miniona bebeo. > > Interlingua: > Un vetule viro entrava in un e= cclesia ancian con su filio le plus vetule, > le filia le plus juvene de il= le e le parve baby de illa. > > Occidental/Interlingue: > Un old mann intr= at un ecclesia ancian con su filio plu old, > li filia plu yun de le e li = infante am=E1bil de la. > > Idiom Neutral: > Vir ansian intrav ekles ansi= an ko sue filio plu ansian, > filia plu yun de il e infant minion de ila. = > > Latino sine Flexione: > Vetere viro e introi in ecclesia antiquo cum s= uo filio magis vetere, > filia magis juvene de illo et infante suave de il= la. > > LFN: > Un om vea ia entra en eglesa antica con se fio major, > se= fia minor e la bebe peti de el. > > Euralinga: > Vetula viru intr=EDa old= a cristadom=F3 con sua pla vetula fil=E9ru, > ila pla juna fil=EDnu i jena = linda bebu. > > ARIEL: > Un vetule viro entrava un eclesie anzian con su f= ilio le primogenito, > su filia le plus juvene e sa parve baby. > > Sambah= sa: > Un geront entrit un awo kyrko con sien veuter son, > iam yuner dugter= tos son ed el jamile baby tas dugter. > > Sibelingua: > Vetula viro entra= v anciena kirke kun su senior filio, > lei yunior filiina e lai beleta bebe= . > > Populido: > Oldi vir eniray ansien kirke kun sui senior filio, > ilu= i junior filia ed elui minion bebet. > > > Se vi povas e deziras lo, volu= ntez tradukar nia frazo #38 > aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Novial, Volap=FCk= , Neo, Glosa, > od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas. > > Ada= vane, estimati! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * >= From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10332 Return-Path: X-Sender: elendito@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 97818 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2012 09:21:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2012 09:21:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng3-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.8) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2012 09:21:47 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.123] by ng3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2012 09:21:47 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by tg4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2012 09:21:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:21:47 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "elendito" Subject: RE: Frazo #37 (tradukuri), anke omnialim. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286874271; y=NkW8MjB718mJKNZSP1s-xqZbozUOfmt08ZQ-n-hwGtOsZbU X-Yahoo-Profile: elendito Iste es, tesemanim, mial ultime transduktade: "Le monde es un grande = vilage et omni antrope es ital habitante." Mial plus bone dezires for om= ni. JB --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: > > Yen itere nia frazo #37, = qua ja tradukesis > aden la 18 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > Esperanto, Ido, Inte= rlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, > Novial, Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flex= ione, Volap=FCk, > Nov-Esperanto, Paraglot, Mondlango/Ulango, Euralinga, >= Sibelingua, Sambahsa, Rapidlingue, ARIEL, LdP, Populido. > > > Esperanto= : > La Tero estas granda vilagho, kaj chiu homo estas ghia vilaghano. > > = Ido: > La Tero esas granda vilajo, e singla homo esas lua vilajano. > > In= terlingua: > Le Terra es un grande village, e cata esser human es un habita= nte de illo. > > Occidental/Interlingue: > Li Terra es un grand village, e= chascun hom es un villageane de it. > > Novial: > Li Tere es grandi vilaj= e, e singli home es lun vilajane. > > Idiom Neutral: > Ter es vilaj grand,= e omni hom es sie vilajan. > > Latino sine Flexione: > Terra es magno vi= co, et omne homine es vicano de illo. > > Volap=FCk: > Taled binon vilag g= retik, e men alik binon vilagan ona. > > Nov-Esperanto: > La Tero estas gr= anda vilajo, ey cha homo estas jia vilajano. > > Paraglot: > El Ter stem g= randa pag, ac omna humano stem loa pagian. > > Mondlango/Ulango: > La tero= esan un biga vilajo, ay ciu humo esan jia vilajano. > > Euralinga: > La t= eru e mega dorfu, i omn=E1lu e hua dorf=E1nu. > > Sibelingua: > Tera es un= granda vilaje, e kada home es ituya vilajane. > > Sambahsa: > Id Ardh est= uno mier village, ed cada mensc est oin idsen villagers. > > Rapidlingue = > Le tere es un gran vilaje, e le singel home es su vilajane. > > ARIEL: >= Le mundo es un grande vilajo, et omne humano es su vilajano. > > LdP: > A= rda es gran vilaja, e kada jen es suy vilajer. > > Populido: > Le Ter es g= randi vilaje, e singli hom es lui vilajan. > > > Me maxim volunte dankas = vi omna pri via tradukuri. > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * *= * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10333 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 86372 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2012 15:37:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2012 15:37:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng15-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.128) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2012 15:37:33 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.124] by ng15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2012 15:37:32 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.119] by tg5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2012 15:37:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:37:31 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Frazo #38 (tradukuri) anke en Omnial X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=4PCZTuWokU4XC11KQrNuvF_IL6at5FN7VSAmj4Ut3rVcH4IwoWidKOw X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Bona vespero, JB! Me pregas tu revizar tua tradukuro de nia frazo #38 aden= Omnial, pro ke semblas a me, ke tu kelke mistradukis ol. - "Juvene" antro= pul -> Vetule antropul (ka ne?) - Se "plus vetule filiul", anke "plus juven= e filiin" (ka ne?) Voluntez sendar a ni la tradukuro definitiva di nia fra= zo #38, ante ke me inkluzos Omnial en nia nexta listo! Yen, segun me: Omni= al: Vetule antropul intrit en antike eklesie con sial plus vetule filiul, i= lulal plus juvene filiin et ilinal parve puere. Danko e predanko pri tua= tradukuri de nia frazi aden Omnial, amiko! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k = a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "elendito" skribis: > > > > Yenci iste preterital labore: > > "Juvene ant= ropul intrit en antike eklesie > con sial plus vetule filiul, > ilulal juv= ene filiin > et ilinal parve puere." > > > Fratim. > > > JB > > > > = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "posstamundi" escribi=F3: = > > > > Maxim kordial saluto! > > > > Voluntez ankor-foye atencar nia fraz= o #38, > > qua ja tradukesis aden la 12 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > > Esperanto= , Ido, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, > > Idiom Neutral, Latino sine= Flexione, LFN, Euralinga, > > ARIEL, Sambahsa, Sibelingua, Populido. > > = > > > > Esperanto: > > Maljuna viro eniris malnovan preghejon kun sia pli= maljuna filo, > > ties pli juna filino kaj chi ties beleta bebo. > > > > = Ido: > > Olda viro eniris anciena kirko kun sua seniora filiulo, > > ilua j= uniora filiino ed elua miniona bebeo. > > > > Interlingua: > > Un vetule v= iro entrava in un ecclesia ancian con su filio le plus vetule, > > le filia= le plus juvene de ille e le parve baby de illa. > > > > Occidental/Interl= ingue: > > Un old mann intrat un ecclesia ancian con su filio plu old, > >= li filia plu yun de le e li infante am=E1bil de la. > > > > Idiom Neutra= l: > > Vir ansian intrav ekles ansian ko sue filio plu ansian, > > filia p= lu yun de il e infant minion de ila. > > > > Latino sine Flexione: > > Vet= ere viro e introi in ecclesia antiquo cum suo filio magis vetere, > > fili= a magis juvene de illo et infante suave de illa. > > > > LFN: > > Un om v= ea ia entra en eglesa antica con se fio major, > > se fia minor e la bebe p= eti de el. > > > > Euralinga: > > Vetula viru intr=EDa olda cristadom=F3 c= on sua pla vetula fil=E9ru, > > ila pla juna fil=EDnu i jena linda bebu. > = > > > ARIEL: > > Un vetule viro entrava un eclesie anzian con su filio le = primogenito, > > su filia le plus juvene e sa parve baby. > > > > Sambahsa= : > > Un geront entrit un awo kyrko con sien veuter son, > > iam yuner dugt= er tos son ed el jamile baby tas dugter. > > > > Sibelingua: > > Vetula vi= ro entrav anciena kirke kun su senior filio, > > lei yunior filiina e lai b= eleta bebe. > > > > Populido: > > Oldi vir eniray ansien kirke kun sui sen= ior filio, > > ilui junior filia ed elui minion bebet. > > > > > > Se vi = povas e deziras lo, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #38 > > aden plusa LIA-sist= emi qual Novial, Volap=FCk, Neo, Glosa, > > od irg altra neutra helpo-lingu= i, quin vi konocas. > > > > Adavane, estimati! > > > > > > * * * * * * *= * > > p a r t a k a > > * * * * * * * * > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10334 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Preiri= nta voto esabis senvalidigita dum novembro pasinta pos la vinko dal opozan= tino, Alla Djioeva, opoze a kandidato sustenata dal Kremlin. =C2=A0 Leonid= Tibilov =C2=A0 SERBIA / AFRONTI KONTRE-CIGANA EN BEOGRAD Kombatacho=C2= =A0havis loko=C2=A0en preurbo di Beograd inter policani ed habitanti dil c= hefurbo Serba, qui protestis kontre la futura instalo di duadeko de famili= i Cigana. L'afronto produktis 14 vunditi de qui 12 esas policani. Ilti rec= evis lansita stoni e boteli. La komonestro di Beograd qualifikis ita incid= ento kom "etnale* motivizita". =C2=A0 YEMEN / VIOLENTOZA KOMBATI INTER L'= ARMEO ED AL-QAIDA Kombatanti di ca=C2=A0extremista reto islamista atakis h= iere kazerno dil armeo Yemenana en Loder, granda urbo en la sudo di ta lan= do. La dicita afronti efektigis plura deki de mortinti. Al-Qaida rinforcis= sua prezenteso en la sudo e l'esto di Yemen, dum profitar la plufebligo d= il povo central konseque di la popul-sedicio qua abutis a la departo da pr= ezidanto Saleh. =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-::: ---387049401-1131838455-1334074218=:149555 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Jean Martign= on, che plura Ido-forumi)
 
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Mardie, ye la 10m= a di aprilo 2012.
 
Dio di santa Fulbertus.
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / Esar aprentiso pri omno e maestr= o pri nulo.
 
ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil Arieto guvernata d= al planeto Marso.
 
VETERO / Griza= cielo pluvoza, cajorne, en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
 
KAUKAZIA / ANCIENA CHEFO DIL INFORMO-SERVI DIVENA= S PREZIDANTO DI SUD-OSETIA
Per plu kam 54% de la voti, Leonid Tibilov vinkis lo= r la duesma parto dil elekto prezidantal organizita en Sud-Osetia, separis= ta inkluzajo en Gruziana teritorio. Preirinta voto esabis senvalidigita du= m novembro pasinta pos la vinko dal opozantino, Alla Djioeva, opoze a kand= idato sustenata dal Kremlin.
 
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Leonid Tibilov
 
SERBIA / AFRONTI KONTRE-CIGANA EN BEOGRAD
Kombatacho havi= s loko en preurbo di Beograd inter policani ed habitanti dil chefurbo= Serba, qui protestis kontre la futura instalo di duadeko de familii Cigan= a. L'afronto produktis 14 vunditi de qui 12 esas policani. Ilti recevis la= nsita stoni e boteli. La komonestro di Beograd qualifikis ita incidento ko= m "etnale* motivizita".
 
YEMEN / VIOLENTOZA KOMBATI INTER L'ARMEO ED AL-QAIDA=
Komb= atanti di ca extremista reto islamista atakis hiere kazerno dil armeo= Yemenana en Loder, granda urbo en la sudo di ta lando. La dicita afronti = efektigis plura deki de mortinti. Al-Qaida rinforcis sua prezenteso en la = sudo e l'esto di Yemen, dum profitar la plufebligo dil povo central konseq= ue di la popul-sedicio qua abutis a la departo da prezidanto Saleh.
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Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::


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---387049401-1131838455-1334074218=:149555-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10335 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 6748 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2012 17:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2012 17:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng17-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.213) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2012 17:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.86] by ng17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2012 17:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by tg6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2012 17:10:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:10:33 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #39 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=AjQP_6-2nk1JarUlGrx7H6FfCYxOPKjruHFGdWZZwoIUw6Pv7iHiXEw X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: Voluntez mem ankor-foye admirar nia specal frazo= #39, qua ja tradukesis aden la 21 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, In= terlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Intal, Neo, Latino sine Flexione= , Idiom Neutral, Adjuvilo, Mondial, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, ARIEL, Euralinga= , Sambahsa, Sibelingua, LdP, Rapidlingue, Omnial, Populido. Esperanto: N= eniu respondo. La nekonatulo ripetas sian peton, sed vane. Ido: Nula respo= ndo. La siorulo ne-konocata repetas sua demando, ma vane. Interlingua: Nul= le responde. Le senior incognite repete su demanda, sed in van. Occidental= /Interlingue: Null response. Li senior =EDnconosset repetit su demande, ma = in van. Novial: Nul respondo. Li sinioro nonkonosat repeti sen prego, ma v= anim. Intal: Nul responde. Le non-konosat sinioro repeta su demande, ma va= nim. Neo: Nil rispo. Lo nokonat siro ripar lea ezigo, mo vane. Latino sin= e Flexione: Nullo responso. Viro ignoto repete suo petitione, sed in modo v= ano. Idiom Neutral: Noun respond. Sinioro no-konosed repet sue demand, ma = vane. Adjuvilo: Nula respondo. La siro nekonocata ripetin sua demando, ma = vane. Mondial: Nul response. Le senior inconosate repeta su demande, ma in= van. LFN: No responde. La senior nonconoseda repete se esije, ma futil. = Mondlango/Ulango: Nula respondo. La mistulo nekonata ripetas hia demando, s= ed vane. ARIEL: Nul response. Le senior incognosate repete su demande, ma = in van. Euralinga: Nula r=E9sponde. La sen=E9ro n=EDconos=E1ta r=E9pete su= a peten, seda por nula. Sambahsa: Neid antwehrd. Is negnohn poti repeteiht= sien eiskwen, bet in vain. Sibelingua: Nula respondo. Li senioro ne-konos= ata repeta su demando, ma vane. LdP: Jawaba yok. Garibe sinior repeti suy = demanda, bat vanem. Rapidlingue: Nul responde. Le deskognoskat senyoro rip= eta ilsu demande, pero vanim. Omnial: Nul respondade, le incognosed segnio= re repeta sial petade, sed afruktim. Populido: Nul responde. Le sioro no-k= onosat repete sui pete, ma vanei. Se vi povas e deziras lo, voluntez trad= ukar nia frazo #39 aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Volap=FCk, Glosa od irg altr= a neutra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas. (Voluntez memorar, ke en nia frazo= #39 ne aparas la koncepto "repetar questiono", ma "repetar demando" [Eo: "= ripeti peton"]) Maxim kordial saluto, kolegaro! * * * * * * * * p a r t = a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10336 Return-Path: X-Sender: andoromeda83@... 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P= redanko, ed adavane ta experimenta POSTA MUNDI #15! P A R T A K A * * * *= * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribis: Saluto, Partaka e omna forumanes! Yen un experimente po= r jurnal POSTA MUNDI numero 15, in april: it esera tote aperta projekte. Ye= n li pagina del projekte: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi:15 (= Un rakonto in LdP ibe ja prizenta, nam Dmitri in antei monate sendev it a m= e.) On pova nemediate, autonome meter e redaktar su materiale in li wiki-p= agina o kuale kustumale sender a enioni@... Omno relatanta li numero pova e= ser diskutata hike che forum, o in li speciala pagina de diskusione, kuala = es adjuntata a kada wiki-artikulo: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaM= undi_talk:15 In li fine de april li numero esera konservata, forsan konvert= ata a pdf, if to esera bezonata, e kuala esera li #16 in may, noi tande dec= idera. Rosto. 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55110 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2012 00:10:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m16.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Apr 2012 00:10:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng7-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.48) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2012 00:10:21 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.125] by ng7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2012 00:10:21 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2012 00:10:21 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:10:21 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #37 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=KQri5FcLi38QqkgKO0ldgupOFT2yayvNDiDH0L8yLqfwo3wUaRilB84 X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: Me pregas vi itere atencar nia specal fra= zo #37, qua ja tradukesis aden la 19 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido,= Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Fl= exione, Volap=FCk, Nov-Esperanto, Paraglot, Mondlango/Ulango, Euralinga, S= ibelingua, Sambahsa, Rapidlingue, ARIEL, LdP, Omnial, Populido. Esperant= o: La Tero estas granda vilagho, kaj chiu homo estas ghia vilaghano. Ido: = La Tero esas granda vilajo, e singla homo esas lua vilajano. Interlingua: = Le Terra es un grande village, e cata esser human es un habitante de illo. = Occidental/Interlingue: Li Terra es un grand village, e chascun hom es un = villageane de it. Novial: Li Tere es grandi vilaje, e singli home es lun v= ilajane. Idiom Neutral: Ter es vilaj grand, e omni hom es sie vilajan. La= tino sine Flexione: Terra es magno vico, et omne homine es vicano de illo. = Volap=FCk: Taled binon vilag gretik, e men alik binon vilagan ona. Nov-Es= peranto: La Tero estas granda vilajo, ey cha homo estas jia vilajano. Para= glot: El Ter stem granda pag, ac omna humano stem loa pagian. Mondlango/Ul= ango: La tero esan un biga vilajo, ay ciu humo esan jia vilajano. Euraling= a: La teru e mega dorfu, i omn=E1lu e hua dorf=E1nu. Sibelingua: Tera es u= n granda vilaje, e kada home es ituya vilajane. Sambahsa: Id Ardh est uno = mier village, ed cada mensc est oin idsen villagers. Rapidlingue Le tere e= s un gran vilaje, e le singel home es su vilajane. ARIEL: Le mundo es un g= rande vilajo, et omne humano es su vilajano. LdP: Arda es gran vilaja, e k= ada jen es suy vilajer. Omnial: Le monde es un grande vilage et omni antro= pe es ital habitante. Populido: Le Ter es grandi vilaje, e singli hom es l= ui vilajan. Danko pro via kunlaboro, estimati. * * * * * * * * p a r t = a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10339 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14412 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2012 05:04:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m16.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Apr 2012 05:04:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng17-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.213) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2012 05:04:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.87] by ng17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2012 05:04:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2012 05:04:41 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 05:04:39 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RE:_[ret-sit=FAe]_Slovianski_e_altra_simila_-_IZVESTIJA?= X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=mwRwhToX_TZY5CjTOBAsgjIR57QYZbm437RJcaAs0N9IijeuTzMvIt1BsH-J X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Doro, li aferes pri kual tu skribe vere existe. Yo ipsa inkontrav ta pan-sl= avik extremisme. In decembre de 2010 you recevav un letre kun ligiles a kan= ales "Slovianski" e "Interslavic" che Youtube, kun skribaje in li letre: "D= e: tu-save-ki" (in li Angli, tamen). Segun ver, yo no save, ki sendev to, e= ne vole saver. Ye ta tempe yo simple recevav un mal imprese e penav simple= oblidar pri to. Durante 2011 yo no havev tempe por inter-slavik linguistik= a, o forsan manko de tempo esev nur exkuzo, ma segun ver li mal imprese rec= evata tale influav a me. Nun, pos ke yo lektav, ko tu, Doro, skribe, yo kom= ensav pensar pri to, trovav ta olda letre e un foy plus spektav ko es che t= a kanales che Youtube, e videskav kuale un imprese pova eser diferenta de v= era piktura. Unesme, li kanal "Slovianski" no kontene informacione pri ling= ua Slovianski, ma nur pri lingua Slovio, e "Slovianski" no es li nome del l= ingua, ma nur li adjektivo signifikanta "slavik". Duesme, amba kanales es p= ropaganda de Slovio in li lingua Angli!, kun in-mixo de extremisme. Tale, n= o es kulpe de interlinguistika ke certena persones trouza it. Yen ke, vera = interlinguistes komunika per internacionala auxiliara linguas, ili kustumal= e no parla pri extremistik ideas, kovrante se per parlada pri IALes in naci= onala linguas. Vera interlinguistes rare es extremistes. Yen, por exemplo, = ista situe "IZVESTIJA". Omno ibe es skrita per interslavik auxiliara lingua= s, precipue per Novoslovienski. Yo hiere lektav multe ibe e yo pova asertar= , ke yo no trovav alkual extremizme ibe. Noi no darfa akuzar li omna afere = nur pro ke certena persones es idiotes... Las nos spekta un amata da nos om= na jurnalo "Adavane!", omna numeros es hike: http://sites.google.com/site/e= diteriokrayono/adavane In li numero 9, pagina 17, li artikle "Ka la WICCA d= ominacas la mondo ?" Plez lekta dekomense li artikle, e pos to dire, eske i= sto es li pan-slavistes, ki permesa se maxim severa extremistik parlada kon= tre altra popules, o forsan exemplim idistes no es plu bona? Rosto. ---= En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Dorothea" escribi=F3: = > > Kar Rosto! > > Le ide de un pan-slavik planlingue es certim interesant= , ma le probleme in le movementes de Slovianski et simil lingues es le poli= tikal extremisme. Mani adherentes de Slovianski propaga un muy agresiv poli= tikal panslavisme kontra omni alter popules et homes. Tokaus yo ha kompletm= en abandonat mi aktivsme pro tal planlingues. > > Un alter probleme es ke = exista mani diferent formes del panslavik planlingues. Demor Slovanianki es= presque tant dificil quam le natural national slavik lingues. > > Kordial= im > Doro > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3: > > > > & & & & & & & & & & & & > > > > Sloviansk= i e simila linguas - > > > > "IZVESTIJA, vseslovienski noviny" > > > > ht= tp://izviestija.info/ > > > > & & & & & & & & & & & & > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10340 Return-Path: X-Sender: cafaristeir@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30501 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2012 06:47:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m9.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Apr 2012 06:47:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng11-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.135) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2012 06:47:09 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.88] by ng11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2012 06:47:08 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.119] by tg8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2012 06:47:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:47:06 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "cafaristeir" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RE:_[ret-sit=FAe]_Slovianski_e_altra_simila_-_IZVESTIJA?= X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=311484367; y=4u_QV0uQq-Ml8897fvp6nRR8rtcB06QsVxf9FvuTVicmQhbGcT0 X-Yahoo-Profile: cafaristeir Salut amicos ! Ne fa vu un confusion =ECnter Slovio e Slovianski ? Li unes= im es dit esser effectivmen nationalist e que on vell dever evitar it. Li d= uesim esset inventeti de Jan van Steenburgen, qui es nederlandesi, do ne ve= rmen slav ! Olivier --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3: > > Doro, li aferes pri kual tu skribe vere ex= iste. Yo ipsa inkontrav ta pan-slavik extremisme. In decembre de 2010 you r= ecevav un letre kun ligiles a kanales "Slovianski" e "Interslavic" che Yout= ube, kun skribaje in li letre: "De: tu-save-ki" (in li Angli, tamen). Segun= ver, yo no save, ki sendev to, e ne vole saver. Ye ta tempe yo simple rece= vav un mal imprese e penav simple oblidar pri to. Durante 2011 yo no havev = tempe por inter-slavik linguistika, o forsan manko de tempo esev nur exkuzo= , ma segun ver li mal imprese recevata tale influav a me. > Nun, pos ke yo = lektav, ko tu, Doro, skribe, yo komensav pensar pri to, trovav ta olda letr= e e un foy plus spektav ko es che ta kanales che Youtube, e videskav kuale = un imprese pova eser diferenta de vera piktura. Unesme, li kanal "Sloviansk= i" no kontene informacione pri lingua Slovianski, ma nur pri lingua Slovio,= e "Slovianski" no es li nome del lingua, ma nur li adjektivo signifikanta = "slavik". Duesme, amba kanales es propaganda de Slovio in li lingua Angli!,= kun in-mixo de extremisme. Tale, no es kulpe de interlinguistika ke certen= a persones trouza it. Yen ke, vera interlinguistes komunika per internacion= ala auxiliara linguas, ili kustumale no parla pri extremistik ideas, kovran= te se per parlada pri IALes in nacionala linguas. Vera interlinguistes rare= es extremistes. Yen, por exemplo, ista situe "IZVESTIJA". Omno ibe es skri= ta per interslavik auxiliara linguas, precipue per Novoslovienski. Yo hiere= lektav multe ibe e yo pova asertar, ke yo no trovav alkual extremizme ibe.= Noi no darfa akuzar li omna afere nur pro ke certena persones es idiotes..= . > Las nos spekta un amata da nos omna jurnalo "Adavane!", omna numeros es= hike: http://sites.google.com/site/editeriokrayono/adavane In li numero 9,= pagina 17, li artikle "Ka la WICCA dominacas la mondo ?" Plez lekta dekome= nse li artikle, e pos to dire, eske isto es li pan-slavistes, ki permesa se= maxim severa extremistik parlada kontre altra popules, o forsan exemplim i= distes no es plu bona? > > Rosto. > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroup= s.com, "Dorothea" escribi=F3: > > > > Kar Rosto! > > > > L= e ide de un pan-slavik planlingue es certim interesant, ma le probleme in l= e movementes de Slovianski et simil lingues es le politikal extremisme. Man= i adherentes de Slovianski propaga un muy agresiv politikal panslavisme kon= tra omni alter popules et homes. Tokaus yo ha kompletmen abandonat mi aktiv= sme pro tal planlingues. > > > > Un alter probleme es ke exista mani difer= ent formes del panslavik planlingues. Demor Slovanianki es presque tant dif= icil quam le natural national slavik lingues. > > > > Kordialim > > Doro >= > > > > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3: > > > > > > & & & & & & & & & & & & > > > > > > Slov= ianski e simila linguas - > > > > > > "IZVESTIJA, vseslovienski noviny" > = > > > > > http://izviestija.info/ > > > > > > & & & & & & & & & & & & > >= > > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10341 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... 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Esce tu nos invita a coriger nostre #37 texti si nos ha fazite= cambiamenti in nostre lingui? In tal case io vole ben coriger mi ARIEL asi= : "Le Tere es un grande vilaje, et cata homine es su vilajane." Osmund Auk= land Den 11. apr. 2012 kl. 02:10 skrev "postamundi" : > Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: > > Me pregas vi itere atencar nia= specal frazo #37, > qua ja tradukesis aden la 19 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > = Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, > Idiom Neutra= l, Latino sine Flexione, Volap=C3=BCk, Nov-Esperanto, > Paraglot, Mondlang= o/Ulango, Euralinga, Sibelingua, Sambahsa, > Rapidlingue, ARIEL, LdP, Omni= al, Populido. > > Esperanto: > La Tero estas granda vilagho, kaj chiu homo= estas ghia vilaghano. > > Ido: > La Tero esas granda vilajo, e singla hom= o esas lua vilajano. > > Interlingua: > Le Terra es un grande village, e c= ata esser human es un habitante de illo. > > Occidental/Interlingue: > Li = Terra es un grand village, e chascun hom es un villageane de it. > > Novia= l: > Li Tere es grandi vilaje, e singli home es lun vilajane. > > Idiom Ne= utral: > Ter es vilaj grand, e omni hom es sie vilajan. > > Latino sine Fl= exione: > Terra es magno vico, et omne homine es vicano de illo. > > Volap= =C3=BCk: > Taled binon vilag gretik, e men alik binon vilagan ona. > > Nov= -Esperanto: > La Tero estas granda vilajo, ey cha homo estas jia vilajano. = > > Paraglot: > El Ter stem granda pag, ac omna humano stem loa pagian. > = > Mondlango/Ulango: > La tero esan un biga vilajo, ay ciu humo esan jia vi= lajano. > > Euralinga: > La teru e mega dorfu, i omn=C3=A1lu e hua dorf=C3= =A1nu. > > Sibelingua: > Tera es un granda vilaje, e kada home es ituya vi= lajane. > > Sambahsa: > Id Ardh est uno mier village, ed cada mensc est oi= n idsen villagers. > > Rapidlingue > Le tere es un gran vilaje, e le singe= l home es su vilajane. > > ARIEL: > Le mundo es un grande vilajo, et omne = humano es su vilajano. > > LdP: > Arda es gran vilaja, e kada jen es suy v= ilajer. > > Omnial: > Le monde es un grande vilage et omni antrope es ital= habitante. > > Populido: > Le Ter es grandi vilaje, e singli hom es lui v= ilajan. > > Danko pro via kunlaboro, estimati. > > * * * * * * * * > p a = r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --Apple-Mail-1--656260567 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Car Partaka!
Esce tu nos inv= ita a coriger nostre #37 texti si nos ha fazite cambiamenti in nostre lingu= i?
In tal case io vole ben coriger mi ARIEL asi:
"Le Te= re es un grande vilaje, et cata homine es su vilajane."

Osmund Aukla= nd

Den 11. apr. 2012 kl. 02:10 skrev "postamundi" <chepartaka@...>:

<= /div>
 

Ka= r amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi:

Me pregas vi itere atencar nia spec= al frazo #37,
qua ja tradukesis aden la 19 sequanta LIA-sistemi:
E= speranto, Ido, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial,
Idiom Neutr= al, Latino sine Flexione, Volap=C3=BCk, Nov-Esperanto,
Paraglot, Mondl= ango/Ulango, Euralinga, Sibelingua, Sambahsa,
Rapidlingue, ARIEL, LdP,= Omnial, Populido.

Esperanto:
La Tero estas granda vilagho, ka= j chiu homo estas ghia vilaghano.

Ido:
La Tero esas granda vil= ajo, e singla homo esas lua vilajano.

Interlingua:
Le Terra es= un grande village, e cata esser human es un habitante de illo.

Oc= cidental/Interlingue:
Li Terra es un grand village, e chascun hom es un= villageane de it.

Novial:
Li Tere es grandi vilaje, e singli = home es lun vilajane.

Idiom Neutral:
Ter es vilaj grand, e omn= i hom es sie vilajan.

Latino sine Flexione:
Terra es magno vic= o, et omne homine es vicano de illo.

Volap=C3=BCk:
Taled binon= vilag gretik, e men alik binon vilagan ona.

Nov-Esperanto:
La= Tero estas granda vilajo, ey cha homo estas jia vilajano.

Paraglo= t:
El Ter stem granda pag, ac omna humano stem loa pagian.

Mon= dlango/Ulango:
La tero esan un biga vilajo, ay ciu humo esan jia vilaja= no.

Euralinga:
La teru e mega dorfu, i omn=C3=A1lu e hua dorf= =C3=A1nu.

Sibelingua:
Tera es un granda vilaje, e kada home es= ituya vilajane.

Sambahsa:
Id Ardh est uno mier village, ed ca= da mensc est oin idsen villagers.

Rapidlingue
Le tere es un gr= an vilaje, e le singel home es su vilajane.

ARIEL:
Le mundo es= un grande vilajo, et omne humano es su vilajano.

LdP:
Arda es= gran vilaja, e kada jen es suy vilajer.

Omnial:
Le monde es u= n grande vilage et omni antrope es ital habitante.

Populido:
L= e Ter es grandi vilaje, e singli hom es lui vilajan.

Danko pro via= kunlaboro, estimati.

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
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Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "po= stamundi" scriv: > > Honorinda kolegaro: > > Me maxim vol= unte prizentas a vi omna (en Ido) > nia specal frazo #40, por ke, se omno e= n ordino, > ni povez tradukar ol aden irg altra helpo-lingui neutra. > > I= do: > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero, > pueron abato ed abat= on Deo. > > > 1. Omna bestio, persono e Deo, qui aparas en la frazo, > re= prezentesas per neutra vorti, nam ni ne savas lia sexuo. > > 2. Esus bona,= se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'akuzativo, > probus construktar la f= razo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es, > per pozar singla vorto akuzativa = avan singla subjekto, quankam > on ya darfas agar anke altra-maniere. > > = 3. Helpo-lingui, qui agas nur segun la vort-ordino, > probez tradukar la fr= azo sua-maniere! > "(Un) kato chasis (un) muso, (un) hundo...", edc. > > K= ad omno klara ed en ordino? > Se yes, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden = nia diferanta LIA-sistemi! > > Predanko ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani! > > = > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10362 Return-Path: X-Sender: csolisr@... 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[IO] *Abasa esas inventita vorto por "abado", bazita en la Latina vorto "abbas". Me devus informar Dimitry. -Carlos Solís El vie 13 abr 2012 21:29:11 CST, Rosto ha escrito: > Sibelingua: > Muse esev chasata da kate, kate da hunde, hunde da puere, puere da > abate, e abate da Deo. > > Rosto. > > --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > , "postamundi" > scriv: > > > > Honorinda kolegaro: > > > > Me maxim volunte prizentas a vi omna (en Ido) > > nia specal frazo #40, por ke, se omno en ordino, > > ni povez tradukar ol aden irg altra helpo-lingui neutra. > > > > Ido: > > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero, > > pueron abato ed abaton Deo. > > > > > > 1. Omna bestio, persono e Deo, qui aparas en la frazo, > > reprezentesas per neutra vorti, nam ni ne savas lia sexuo. > > > > 2. Esus bona, se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'akuzativo, > > probus construktar la frazo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es, > > per pozar singla vorto akuzativa avan singla subjekto, quankam > > on ya darfas agar anke altra-maniere. > > > > 3. Helpo-lingui, qui agas nur segun la vort-ordino, > > probez tradukar la frazo sua-maniere! > > "(Un) kato chasis (un) muso, (un) hundo...", edc. > > > > Kad omno klara ed en ordino? > > Se yes, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden nia diferanta LIA-sistemi! > > > > Predanko ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani! > > > > > > * * * * * * * * > > p a r t a k a > > * * * * * * * * > > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10363 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 41200 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2012 11:05:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2012 11:05:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng2-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.164.141) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2012 11:05:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1334401535; bh=TvmtflRCGkICz6jASQcP+TAMY35FxXa2EysjGatLNaI=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=l4cpSX0j5zjkH9x7VYba4nQUCKkST0VqgXcMP0eYPJb5/+LjwY5UFsewzy/WEfV9DHtGgLTk2qJDLwlzmr7qPQw0DowLzr4QNdEmUgtHU0UiaPMFyapGSq8dlEpeGV2Q Received: from [98.139.164.125] by ng2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2012 11:05:35 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.72] by tg6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2012 11:05:35 -0000 X-Sender: cafaristeir@... 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En in Sambahsa : "Un musem chassit un catis, un catem = un kwaunis, un kwaunem un magvis, un magvem abbatis ed abbatem Divis." (= Her, Sambahsa kwehc' kam Latin !) Olivier --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroup= s.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Honorinda kolegaro: > = > Me maxim volunte prizentas a vi omna (en Ido) > nia specal frazo #40, po= r ke, se omno en ordino, > ni povez tradukar ol aden irg altra helpo-lingui= neutra. > > Ido: > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero, > puero= n abato ed abaton Deo. > > > 1. Omna bestio, persono e Deo, qui aparas en= la frazo, > reprezentesas per neutra vorti, nam ni ne savas lia sexuo. > = > 2. Esus bona, se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'akuzativo, > probus c= onstruktar la frazo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es, > per pozar singla v= orto akuzativa avan singla subjekto, quankam > on ya darfas agar anke altra= -maniere. > > 3. Helpo-lingui, qui agas nur segun la vort-ordino, > probez= tradukar la frazo sua-maniere! > "(Un) kato chasis (un) muso, (un) hundo..= .", edc. > > Kad omno klara ed en ordino? > Se yes, voluntez tradukar nia = frazo #40 aden nia diferanta LIA-sistemi! > > Predanko ed adavane, posta_M= undi-ani! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10364 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95916 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2012 11:22:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2012 11:22:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng5-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.57) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2012 11:22:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1334402574; bh=iRr0T+jpZyyfyPXbMoE9dr003mA+hRoX791C+FcC/bY=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=aNOc+dtfpaXLn0b2XtSHJ5RxUzvL9D4Qw3klKRSYra+qPbfV6QOM1BO5pTf9jofn5rWT+Levvvn/me1PjBtrYYc8o1RS06miIDEAg/InNOtKFrVjMribz0frDfvzsVcO Received: from [98.137.0.84] by ng5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2012 11:22:54 -0000 Received: from [98.137.35.12] by tg4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2012 11:22:54 -0000 X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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Muy hao! Apropoo "abado", Robert Winter proposi-te "abat= " al tradukti char-ney chapta de "Parma-ney monastir" bay Stendal. Si oni k= an Wiktionary (me bu dai linka, dabe salvi sey mesaja fon furia de Partaka = :-) , oni vidi ke ye aika shao "s" kom dwa-ney konsonanta, maistem ye "t" o= "d". Also me'd preferi "abat". Un nuansa. Si oni yao emfasi shikaring kom= PROSES (mogbi shikaring bin longtaim-ney), oni mog yusi "gei": Maus gei-t= e shikari bay kota, kota bay doga, doga bay kinda, kinda bat abat, e abat b= ay Boh. Me dumi ke, similem, pa Novial oni'd yusi "bli": Li muse ha bli ch= asa da kate, kate da hunde, hunde da filie, filie da abate, e abate da Dee.= Hao sitdi! Dimitri --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Carlos Sol=ED= s escribi=F3: > > LdP: > Maus bin shikari-ney bay kota, kota = bay doga, doba bay kinda, kinda bay > *abasa, e *abasa bay Boh. > [IO] *Ab= asa esas inventita vorto por "abado", bazita en la Latina vorto > "abbas".= Me devus informar Dimitry. > -Carlos Sol=EDs > > El vie 13 abr 2012 21:29= :11 CST, Rosto ha escrito: > > Sibelingua: > > Muse esev chasata da kate, k= ate da hunde, hunde da puere, puere da > > abate, e abate da Deo. > > > > R= osto. > > > > --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > > , "postamundi" > > scriv: > > > > > > Honorin= da kolegaro: > > > > > > Me maxim volunte prizentas a vi omna (en Ido) > > = > nia specal frazo #40, por ke, se omno en ordino, > > > ni povez tradukar = ol aden irg altra helpo-lingui neutra. > > > > > > Ido: > > > Muson chasis = kato, katon hundo, hundon puero, > > > pueron abato ed abaton Deo. > > > > = > > > > > 1. Omna bestio, persono e Deo, qui aparas en la frazo, > > > repr= ezentesas per neutra vorti, nam ni ne savas lia sexuo. > > > > > > 2. Esus = bona, se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'akuzativo, > > > probus constru= ktar la frazo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es, > > > per pozar singla vor= to akuzativa avan singla subjekto, quankam > > > on ya darfas agar anke alt= ra-maniere. > > > > > > 3. Helpo-lingui, qui agas nur segun la vort-ordino,= > > > probez tradukar la frazo sua-maniere! > > > "(Un) kato chasis (un) m= uso, (un) hundo...", edc. > > > > > > Kad omno klara ed en ordino? > > > Se= yes, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden nia diferanta LIA-sistemi! > > >= > > > Predanko ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani! > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * = * * > > > p a r t a k a > > > * * * * * * * * > > > > > > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10365 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Heinrich, filiulo di Friedrich I=C2=A0"Barbaro= ssa" esis rejulo di la Germana imperio di le Hohenstaufen depos 1190. Il am= bicionis divenar rejulo di Sicilia, quon il realigis en 1194. Il deziris ke= la krono di la Santa Romana Imperio esez heredala, ma la Dieto di Erfurt, = di 1196, ne grantis co. =C2=A0 =C2=A01471. Edward IV rejulo di Anglia vinki= s Richard Neville komto di Warwick, ye la batalio di Barnet, en Hertfordshi= re, Anglia. Ol esis un de=C2=A0plura=C2=A0batalii=C2=A0di la Milito di la R= ozi (1455-85), inter du branchi (decendanti di Edward III) di la rejala fam= ilio. La=C2=A0influiva komto di Warwick,=C2=A0qua olim esabis suportanto di= Edward IV kontre rivala rejulo Henry VI, transferabis sua suporto a Henry = VI. La komto mortis en ca batalio. La febligita armeo di Henry esis itere v= inkata ye la batalio di Tewkesbury en mayo di ca yaro; multa de la aristokr= atala partisani=C2=A0di Henry exekutesis, e Henry ocidesis balde pose. =C2= =A0 1935. En centrala areo di la USA eventis grava polvo-sturmo ye ca dio, = pose nomizita "Nigra Sundio". Ol esis la maxim granda de plura polvo-sturmi= en agro-kultivala arei=C2=A0dum ca yardeko. En Texas, Oklahoma e Kansas en= ca periodo=C2=A0multi perdis sua domi, o mortis pro mala nutrado o polvo-p= ulmonito. Esis granda migrado vers la westo=C2=A0por sercho di=C2=A0laboro.= =C2=A0 Cent yari ante nun: =C2=A0 1912. La navo RMS Titanic, lore la maxim= granda navo e=C2=A0sur olua unesma voyajo, esis frapata da glacio-monto en= la Atlantiko sude di Nov-Lando, e transmisis ditresala signali. Ol havis m= oderna sekureso-equipaji ma, pro antiqua sekureso-reguli, ne suficanta salv= o-bateli por omna embarkinti. Ye la sequanta dio, la navo sinkis; de 2221 v= oyajanti e nav-trupo, 711 posvivis. =C2=A0 Kordiale DGW =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 --882403689-836264132-1334405132=:65324 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Ye ca dio, 14 aprilo...
 
1191. Heinrich VI (1= 165-97) esis kronizata kom Santa Romana Imperiestro da la papo Coelestinus = III. Heinrich, filiulo di Friedrich I "Barbarossa" esis rejulo di la G= ermana imperio di le Hohenstaufen depos 1190. Il ambicionis divenar rejulo = di Sicilia, quon il realigis en 1194. Il deziris ke la krono di la Santa Ro= mana Imperio esez heredala, ma la Dieto di Erfurt, di 1196, ne grantis co.
 
 1471. Edward IV rejulo di Anglia vinkis Richa= rd Neville komto di Warwick, ye la batalio di Barnet, en Hertfordshire, Ang= lia. Ol esis un de plura batalii di la Milito di la Rozi (14= 55-85), inter du branchi (decendanti di Edward III) di la rejala familio. La influiva komto di Warwick, qua olim esabis suportanto di Edward IV kontre riva= la rejulo Henry VI, transferabis sua suporto a Henry VI. La komto mortis en= ca batalio. La febligita armeo di Henry esis itere vinkata ye la batalio d= i Tewkesbury en mayo di ca yaro; multa de la aristokratala partisani di Henry exekutesis, e Henry oc= idesis balde pose.
 
= 1935. En centrala areo di la U= SA eventis grava polvo-sturmo ye ca dio, pose nomizita "Nigra Sundio". Ol e= sis la maxim granda de plura p= olvo-sturmi en agro-kultivala arei dum ca yardeko. En Texas, Oklahoma = e Kansas en ca periodo multi perdis sua domi, o mortis pro mala nutrad= o o polvo-pulmonito. Esis granda migrado vers la westo por sercho di&n= bsp;laboro.
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1912. La na= vo RMS Titanic, lore la maxim granda navo e sur olua unesma voy= ajo, esis frapata da glacio-monto en la Atlantiko sude di Nov-Lando, e tran= smisis ditresala signali. Ol havis moderna sekureso-equipaji ma, pro antiqu= a sekureso-reguli, ne suficanta salvo-bateli por omna embarkinti. Ye la seq= uanta dio, la navo sinkis; de 2221 voyajanti e nav-trupo, 711 posvivis.
 
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Quoniam Espo ed Ido esas advere quaza dialekti de= sama linguo, nule devas surprizar ni lia simil aspekto, ma kontree. Ido e= sas anke Esperanto, ma Esperanto reformita, ne Esperanto klasika. Me konje= ktis ke, por kelke diferigar amba tradukuri, forsan, tu prizentos la yena E= speranta versiono: "Kato chasis muson, hundo katon, infano hundon, abato = infanon kaj Dio abaton" Danko pro tua tradukuro de nia frazo #40 aden kla= sika Esperanto. * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En = posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Philippe Cousson skrib= is: Esperanto Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon infano, infanon aba= to kaj abaton Dio. Tie Esperanto kaj Ido aspektas kiel variajhoj de la sa= ma lingvo. Kore Philippe > Le 13/04/2012 21:55, postamundi a =E9crit : = Honorinda kolegaro: Me maxim volunte prizentas a vi omna (en Ido) nia spe= cal frazo #40, por ke, se omno en ordino, ni povez tradukar ol aden irg alt= ra helpo-lingui neutra. Ido: Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero,= pueron abato ed abaton Deo. 1. Omna bestio, persono e Deo, qui aparas en = la frazo, reprezentesas per neutra vorti, nam ni ne savas lia sexuo. 2. Es= us bona, se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'akuzativo, probus construkta= r la frazo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es, per pozar singla vorto akuzat= iva avan singla subjekto, quankam on ya darfas agar anke altra-maniere. 3.= Helpo-lingui, qui agas nur segun la vort-ordino, probez tradukar la frazo = sua-maniere! "(Un) kato chasis (un) muso, (un) hundo...", edc. Kad omno kl= ara ed en ordino? Se yes, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden nia diferant= a LIA-sistemi! Predanko ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani! * * * * * * * * p a = r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10369 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Se vi ne demandas de me ulo altra, me enlistizos la posa versiono da Di= mitri, ma pos ke me chanjos "bat abat" (konjektebla eroreto) a "bay abat". = Pri la tradukuro de nia frazo #40 aden Novial, me prizus anke recevar la m= esajo e tradukuro de un ek nia Novial-specalisti, nome nia kara James. Ada= vane nia frazo #40! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- = En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lingwadeplaneta" sk= ribis: Salam, Carlos! Muy hao! Apropoo "abado", Robert Winter proposi-= te "abat" al tradukti char-ney chapta de "Parma-ney monastir" bay Stendal. = Si oni kan Wiktionary (me bu dai linka, dabe salvi sey mesaja fon furia de = Partaka :-) , oni vidi ke ye aika shao "s" kom dwa-ney konsonanta, maistem = ye "t" o "d". Also me'd preferi "abat". Un nuansa. Si oni yao emfasi shik= aring kom PROSES (mogbi shikaring bin longtaim-ney), oni mog yusi "gei": = Maus gei-te shikari bay kota, kota bay doga, doga bay kinda, kinda bat aba= t, e abat bay Boh. Me dumi ke, similem, pa Novial oni'd yusi "bli": Li mu= se ha bli chasa da kate, kate da hunde, hunde da filie, filie da abate, e = abate da Dee. Hao sitdi! Dimitri --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com= , Carlos Sol=EDs escribi=F3: LdP: Maus bin shikari-ney bay kot= a, kota bay doga, doba bay kinda, kinda bay *abasa, e *abasa bay Boh. [IO]= *Abasa esas inventita vorto por "abado", bazita en la Latina vorto "abbas= ". Me devus informar Dimitry. -Carlos Sol=EDs > El vie 13 abr 2012 21:29:= 11 CST, Rosto ha escrito: Sibelingua: Muse esev chasata da kate, kate da h= unde, hunde da puere, puere da abate, e abate da Deo. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10370 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... 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Osmund Aukland Den 14. apr. 2012 kl. 05:52 skr= ev Carlos Sol=C3=ADs : > LdP: > Maus bin shikari-ney b= ay kota, kota bay doga, doba bay kinda, kinda bay > *abasa, e *abasa bay B= oh. > [IO] *Abasa esas inventita vorto por "abado", bazita en la Latina vor= to > "abbas". Me devus informar Dimitry. > -Carlos Sol=C3=ADs > > El vie = 13 abr 2012 21:29:11 CST, Rosto ha escrito: > > Sibelingua: > > Muse esev c= hasata da kate, kate da hunde, hunde da puere, puere da > > abate, e abate = da Deo. > > > > Rosto. > > > > --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > > , "postamundi" > > scriv:= > > > > > > Honorinda kolegaro: > > > > > > Me maxim volunte prizentas a v= i omna (en Ido) > > > nia specal frazo #40, por ke, se omno en ordino, > > = > ni povez tradukar ol aden irg altra helpo-lingui neutra. > > > > > > Ido:= > > > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero, > > > pueron abato ed = abaton Deo. > > > > > > > > > 1. Omna bestio, persono e Deo, qui aparas en = la frazo, > > > reprezentesas per neutra vorti, nam ni ne savas lia sexuo. = > > > > > > 2. Esus bona, se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'akuzativo, = > > > probus construktar la frazo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es, > > > = per pozar singla vorto akuzativa avan singla subjekto, quankam > > > on ya = darfas agar anke altra-maniere. > > > > > > 3. Helpo-lingui, qui agas nur s= egun la vort-ordino, > > > probez tradukar la frazo sua-maniere! > > > "(Un= ) kato chasis (un) muso, (un) hundo...", edc. > > > > > > Kad omno klara ed= en ordino? > > > Se yes, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden nia diferant= a LIA-sistemi! > > > > > > Predanko ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani! > > > > > = > > > > * * * * * * * * > > > p a r t a k a > > > * * * * * * * * > > > > >= > > > > --Apple-Mail-1--368095574 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Io prove:
ARIEL
Le= cat chase le mus, le can le cat, le puere le can, Deo abate le puere e viz= e versa.

Osmund Aukland

Den 14. apr. 2012 kl. 05:52 sk= rev Carlos Sol=C3=ADs <csolisr@ris= eup.net>:

=  
=

LdP:
Maus bin shikari-ney bay kota, kota bay dog= a, doba bay kinda, kinda bay
*abasa, e *abasa bay Boh.
[IO] *Abasa= esas inventita vorto por "abado", bazita en la Latina vorto
"abbas". = Me devus informar Dimitry.
-Carlos Sol=C3=ADs

El vie 13 abr 20= 12 21:29:11 CST, Rosto ha escrito:
> Sibelingua:
> Muse esev = chasata da kate, kate da hunde, hunde da puere, puere da
> abate, e = abate da Deo.
>
> Rosto.
>
> --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com
> , "postamundi"
> scri= v:
> >
> > Honorinda kolegaro:
> >
> &= gt; Me maxim volunte prizentas a vi omna (en Ido)
> > nia specal = frazo #40, por ke, se omno en ordino,
> > ni povez tradukar ol ad= en irg altra helpo-lingui neutra.
> >
> > Ido:
>= > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero,
> > pueron ab= ato ed abaton Deo.
> >
> >
> > 1. Omna bestio= , persono e Deo, qui aparas en la frazo,
> > reprezentesas per ne= utra vorti, nam ni ne savas lia sexuo.
> >
> > 2. Esus = bona, se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'akuzativo,
> > probus= construktar la frazo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es,
> > per = pozar singla vorto akuzativa avan singla subjekto, quankam
> > on= ya darfas agar anke altra-maniere.
> >
> > 3. Helpo-li= ngui, qui agas nur segun la vort-ordino,
> > probez tradukar la f= razo sua-maniere!
> > "(Un) kato chasis (un) muso, (un) hundo..."= , edc.
> >
> > Kad omno klara ed en ordino?
> &g= t; Se yes, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden nia diferanta LIA-sistemi!<= br> > >
> > Predanko ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani!
> = >
> >
> > * * * * * * * *
> > p a r t a k = a
> > * * * * * * * *
> >
>
>

<= /p>

--Apple-Mail-1--368095574-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10371 Return-Path: X-Sender: philippe.cousson@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 2490 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2012 16:42:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m9.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2012 16:42:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp22.services.sfr.fr) (93.17.128.10) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2012 16:42:24 -0000 X-Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2202.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2A9DA7000048 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:42:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Received: from [192.168.0.246] (234.52.15.109.rev.sfr.net [109.15.52.234]) by msfrf2202.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BBFA770000B2 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:42:21 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20120414164221770.BBFA770000B2@... Message-ID: <4F89A8E7.80209@...> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:42:15 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090905010201090705010200" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Philippe Cousson Reply-To: philippe.cousson@... Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] RE: Frazo #40 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=386199761; y=lglv4Gvf52ZFpFxRFwhR2cBiD7etIfFa7gf0U7VSXuo4LQU5JXDxEpM3 X-Yahoo-Profile: philippecousson --------------090905010201090705010200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit La du tradukoj al Esperanto ne havas la saman signifon. En unu traduko, oni parolas pri la muso, kiun chasas kato kaj en la dua oni parolas pri kato kiu chasas muson. Mi komprenis ke oni parolis pri muso. Tion mi supozis pro la ido-teksto. Sed estas tiel, tiam mi preferas mian tekston. Kore Philippe Le 14/04/2012 17:40, postamundi a �crit : > > Ho, yes, amiko Philippe! > > Quoniam Espo ed Ido esas advere quaza dialekti de sama linguo, > nule devas surprizar ni lia simil aspekto, ma kontree. Ido esas > anke Esperanto, ma Esperanto reformita, ne Esperanto klasika. > > Me konjektis ke, por kelke diferigar amba tradukuri, > forsan, tu prizentos la yena Esperanta versiono: > > "Kato chasis muson, hundo katon, infano hundon, > abato infanon kaj Dio abaton" > > Danko pro tua tradukuro de nia frazo #40 aden klasika Esperanto. > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > , > Philippe Cousson skribis: > > Esperanto > > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon infano, infanon abato kaj > abaton Dio. > > Tie Esperanto kaj Ido aspektas kiel variajhoj de la sama lingvo. > > Kore > Philippe > > > Le 13/04/2012 21:55, postamundi a �crit : > > Honorinda kolegaro: > > Me maxim volunte prizentas a vi omna (en Ido) > nia specal frazo #40, por ke, se omno en ordino, > ni povez tradukar ol aden irg altra helpo-lingui neutra. > > Ido: > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero, > pueron abato ed abaton Deo. > > 1. Omna bestio, persono e Deo, qui aparas en la frazo, > reprezentesas per neutra vorti, nam ni ne savas lia sexuo. > > 2. Esus bona, se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'akuzativo, > probus construktar la frazo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es, > per pozar singla vorto akuzativa avan singla subjekto, quankam > on ya darfas agar anke altra-maniere. > > 3. Helpo-lingui, qui agas nur segun la vort-ordino, > probez tradukar la frazo sua-maniere! > "(Un) kato chasis (un) muso, (un) hundo...", edc. > > Kad omno klara ed en ordino? > Se yes, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden nia diferanta LIA-sistemi! > > Predanko ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani! > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --------------090905010201090705010200 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit La du tradukoj al Esperanto ne havas la saman signifon.
En unu traduko, oni parolas pri la muso, kiun chasas kato kaj en la dua oni parolas pri kato kiu chasas muson.
Mi komprenis ke oni parolis pri muso. Tion mi supozis pro la ido-teksto.
Sed estas tiel, tiam mi preferas mian tekston.

Kore
Philippe

Le 14/04/2012 17:40, postamundi a écrit :
 

Ho, yes, amiko Philippe!

Quoniam Espo ed Ido esas advere quaza dialekti de sama linguo,
nule devas surprizar ni lia simil aspekto, ma kontree. Ido esas
anke Esperanto, ma Esperanto reformita, ne Esperanto klasika.

Me konjektis ke, por kelke diferigar amba tradukuri,
forsan, tu prizentos la yena Esperanta versiono:

"Kato chasis muson, hundo katon, infano hundon,
abato infanon kaj Dio abaton"

Danko pro tua tradukuro de nia frazo #40 aden klasika Esperanto.

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
Philippe Cousson skribis:

Esperanto

Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon infano, infanon abato kaj abaton Dio.

Tie Esperanto kaj Ido aspektas kiel variajhoj de la sama lingvo.

Kore
Philippe

> Le 13/04/2012 21:55, postamundi a écrit :

Honorinda kolegaro:

Me maxim volunte prizentas a vi omna (en Ido)
nia specal frazo #40, por ke, se omno en ordino,
ni povez tradukar ol aden irg altra helpo-lingui neutra.

Ido:
Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero,
pueron abato ed abaton Deo.

1. Omna bestio, persono e Deo, qui aparas en la frazo,
reprezentesas per neutra vorti, nam ni ne savas lia sexuo.

2. Esus bona, se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'akuzativo,
probus construktar la frazo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es,
per pozar singla vorto akuzativa avan singla subjekto, quankam
on ya darfas agar anke altra-maniere.

3. Helpo-lingui, qui agas nur segun la vort-ordino,
probez tradukar la frazo sua-maniere!
"(Un) kato chasis (un) muso, (un) hundo...", edc.

Kad omno klara ed en ordino?
Se yes, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden nia diferanta LIA-sistemi!

Predanko ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani!

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

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Deo ne abatas la puero (nek la puero abatas Deo)... := -) Deo abatas/chasas "abato". Yen ke "abato" es la chefo religial en abadey= o. E yen ke "abato chasas puero, e Deo chasas abato". Do, en ARIEL, me k= onjektas ke l' justa tradukuro esus: "Un cat chasave un mus, un can un cat= , un puer un can, un abat un puer, e Deo un abat". Tamen, voluntez confirm= ar a me tua tradukuro definitiva en ARIEL! Standez bone, amiko! * * * * = * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com= , Osmund Aukland skribis: Io prove: ARIEL Le cat chase le m= us, le can le cat, le puere le can, Deo abate le puere e vize versa. Osm= und Aukland From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10373 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4447 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2012 17:53:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2012 17:53:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng13-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.216) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2012 17:53:37 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.180] by ng13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2012 17:53:37 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2012 17:53:36 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 17:53:35 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Frazo #40 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=hkS08XXoglTyGlOfvX21UveiJpYp9omeMWxMjZirx6_UbT5ko89BeJw X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Ho, no, posta_Mundi-ani! Pos ke me spontane skribis la vorto "abadeyo", me= deskovrabas, ke anke me erorabas, nam, en mea Ido-versiono di nia specal f= razo #40, me uzis la formo "abato" vice la korekta, "abado", do me korektid= as mea tradukuro tale: Ido: Muson chasis kato, katon hundon, hundon puero,= pueron abado, ed abadon Deo. Me povas imaginar pro quo Ido prenis "abad-= " vice "abat-": existas en Ido la verbo "abatar", e do, "abateyo" esus loko= en olqua on "abatas" [o_O] Do: "abado" ed "abadeyo". Pardonez a me! * = * * * p t k * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" skribis: > > Ho, no, kar Osmund! > > Deo ne abatas la puer= o (nek la puero abatas Deo)... :-) > Deo abatas/chasas "abato". Yen ke "aba= to" es la chefo religial en abadeyo. > E yen ke "abato chasas puero, e Deo= chasas abato". > > Do, en ARIEL, me konjektas ke l' justa tradukuro esus= : > > "Un cat chasave un mus, un can un cat, un puer un can, > un abat un = puer, e Deo un abat". > > Tamen, voluntez confirmar a me tua tradukuro def= initiva en ARIEL! > > Standez bone, amiko! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a = r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > Os= mund Aukland skribis: > > Io prove: > ARIEL > Le cat chase le m= us, le can le cat, le puere le can, > Deo abate le puere e vize versa. > = > Osmund Aukland > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10374 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... 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Tu ARIEL es perfect. :D Osmund Aukland Den 14. apr.= 2012 kl. 19:53 skrev "postamundi" : > Ho, no, pos= ta_Mundi-ani! > > Pos ke me spontane skribis la vorto "abadeyo", > me desk= ovrabas, ke anke me erorabas, nam, > en mea Ido-versiono di nia specal fraz= o #40, > me uzis la formo "abato" vice la korekta, "abado", > do me korekti= das mea tradukuro tale: > > Ido: > Muson chasis kato, katon hundon, hundon= puero, > pueron abado, ed abadon Deo. > > Me povas imaginar pro quo Ido p= renis "abad-" vice "abat-": > existas en Ido la verbo "abatar", e do, "abat= eyo" esus loko > en olqua on "abatas" [o_O] > Do: "abado" ed "abadeyo". > = > Pardonez a me! > > * * * * > p t k > * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@= yahoogroups.com, > "postamundi" skribis: > > > > Ho, no, = kar Osmund! > > > > Deo ne abatas la puero (nek la puero abatas Deo)... := -) > > Deo abatas/chasas "abato". Yen ke "abato" es la chefo religial en ab= adeyo. > > E yen ke "abato chasas puero, e Deo chasas abato". > > > > Do= , en ARIEL, me konjektas ke l' justa tradukuro esus: > > > > "Un cat chasa= ve un mus, un can un cat, un puer un can, > > un abat un puer, e Deo un aba= t". > > > > Tamen, voluntez confirmar a me tua tradukuro definitiva en ARI= EL! > > > > Standez bone, amiko! > > > > > > * * * * * * * * > > p a r = t a k a > > * * * * * * * * > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, = > > Osmund Aukland skribis: > > > > Io prove: > > ARIEL > > Le = cat chase le mus, le can le cat, le puere le can, > > Deo abate le puere e= vize versa. > > > > Osmund Aukland > > > > --Apple-Mail-2--362222083 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Multe grazii Partaka. Tu ARIEL es perf= ect. :D

Osmund Aukland

Den 14. apr. 2012 kl. 19:53 skr= ev "postamundi" <chepartaka@ho= tmail.com>:

=  

Ho, no, posta_Mundi-ani!

Pos ke me sponta= ne skribis la vorto "abadeyo",
me deskovrabas, ke anke me erorabas, nam= ,
en mea Ido-versiono di nia specal frazo #40,
me uzis la formo "ab= ato" vice la korekta, "abado",
do me korektidas mea tradukuro tale:
=
Ido:
Muson chasis kato, katon hundon, hundon puero,
pueron ab= ado, ed abadon Deo.

Me povas imaginar pro quo Ido prenis "abad-" v= ice "abat-":
existas en Ido la verbo "abatar", e do, "abateyo" esus lok= o
en olqua on "abatas" [o_O]
Do: "abado" ed "abadeyo".

Pa= rdonez a me!

* * * *
p t k
* * * *

--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
"postamundi" <= chepartaka@...> skribis:
>
> Ho, no, kar Osmund!
>=
> Deo ne abatas la puero (nek la puero abatas Deo)... :-)
>= Deo abatas/chasas "abato". Yen ke "abato" es la chefo religial en abadeyo.=
> E yen ke "abato chasas puero, e Deo chasas abato".
> > Do, en ARIEL, me konjektas ke l' justa tradukuro esus:
>
= > "Un cat chasave un mus, un can un cat, un puer un can,
> un ab= at un puer, e Deo un abat".
>
> Tamen, voluntez confirmar a = me tua tradukuro definitiva en ARIEL!
>
> Standez bone, amik= o!
>
>
> * * * * * * * *
> p a r t a k a
= > * * * * * * * *
>
> --- En posta= _Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
> Osmund Aukland s= kribis:
>
> Io prove:
> ARIEL
> Le cat chase l= e mus, le can le cat, le puere le can,
> Deo abate le puere e vize = versa.
>
> Osmund Aukland
>

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"Estro" sona nekustumale serioze. Rosto. --- En post= a_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "ila_mesajero" escribi=F3: > > = & & & & & & & & & & & & > > > > Esperanto - > > Estro - "Taglibro de = brutulo" (4' 06'') **** > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqgfiaXErBdc >= > > > & & & & & & & & & & & & > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10381 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=3_4zLfIicN8TBYdt49eOwe-jF-DVKq1BGnk-mF8eZaDq_xPeyD26ra4 X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Esas en la mondo plu multa mulieri kam viri, tamen, sempre komentesis, ke e= sas tre poka mulieri, qui agas en nia helpo-lingual mondumo. Pro quo? Ka ne= utra helpo-linguo internaciona ne esas same grava ed interesiva por ni omna= ? Yen exemple ke, che posta_Mundi, ni disponas nur du mulieri inter nia pub= lika membri: Doro e Rosa. Do, me maxim volunte invitas omna mulieri divenar= aktiva en nia forumo, mem se, ul-kaze, li ne tote dominacas la helpo-ling= uo per olqua li preferas skribar (ne-dicinde, to anke validesas por viri. K= omprenende). Pro quo tante poka mulieri? Adavane ni omna ensemble! (Partak= a) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10382 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Zlango:

3D"Nlk.png" 3D"Pnt.png" 3D"Ngt.png" 3D"Nfm.png" 3D"Pls.png" 3D"Prg.png" 3D"Cmm.png" 3D"Nlk.png" 3D"Kps.png"


If tamen no es videbla, isto anke es hike: http://postamundi.wikkii.co= m/wiki/P_M_Frazo_39 

Rosto

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Danko e gratuli pro tradukir "La Feino" aden Esperant= a Sibelingua, e pro enrejistrir ol per tua propra voco por ke ni povez parj= uar ol. Ica rakonto divenas sempre plu popular inter ni, e forsan ol merit= as posedar mem propra wiki-spaco (che nia "wikkii"), ube publikigesus omna = versioni existanta: se me juste memoras, ni havas versioni dil rakonto, adm= inime, en Esperanto, Ido, Mondial, Paraglot, Populido, Piktogrami, Slovians= ka Sibelingua, Esperanta Sibelingua, Bazal, edc. Dume, adavane tua Esperan= ta Sibelingua versiono (apud tua Slovianska Sibelingua versiono) che PM#15= ! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yah= oogroups.com, "Rosto" skribis: Kun son-dosiere,= lektata da me ipsa: http://www.ipernity.com/blog/79634/386249 Yo vole = inkluzar anke ista texte ad in li #15 de nosi jurnal, paralele al slovians= katra variante. Yen li texte, un remix del texte skrita da Zamenhof: [..= .] Rosto. 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Tale deliberinte, lu vidis ke ico = esis maxim bona, ed il hastis a la foresto olqua stacis sur la altajo, prox= im la litoro. Ed il videskis du arbusti interplektita, un de li esis olivi= ero sovaja e la altra oliviero esis ordinara. Ed ibe, nek la violentajo hu= mida dil venti, nek Helios cintilifanta per radii, nek la pluvo eniris, ta= lgrade la interplektita branchi esis densa. Ed Odissevs kushis su ibe, pos= amasigar larja lito ek folii, ed oli esis tante abundanta , ke du o tri h= omuli povabus blotisar ibe dum la maxim ruda vetero vintral. Lore la pacie= nta e deala Odissevs, joyoza vidar ica lito, kushis su meze di ol, dum teg= ar su per la abundo dil folii. Same kam pastoro, ye l'extremajo di tero ub= e il havas nula vicino, parkovras lua brandi per cindro nigra e tale mante= nas la jermo dil fairo, por ne querar ol atraloke ; same Odissevs celesis = sub la folii, ed Athene varsis la dormo sur lua okuli e klozis lua palpebr= i, por ke il repozez quik de ilua ruda labori.
 
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puere abato chasad, e abato De= e chasad.
 
 
--_f2296ae0-bc6a-4f0e-8601-42f923b6e909__-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10386 Return-Path: X-Sender: svoboda.gabriel@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 99409 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2012 04:40:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2012 04:40:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng6-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.70) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2012 04:40:19 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.85] by ng6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2012 04:40:18 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2012 04:40:18 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 04:40:18 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "Gabriel Svoboda" Subject: Alicun novas de le prime tertie de april 2012 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=256814494; y=Ma2CIszH517Pw2xgAcGDaq9mSmOAsbtOVGOw7BDiIRYTsfxdXQP6ijUx X-Yahoo-Profile: gabriel_svoboda (UTF-8) DE AMERICA LATIN E OCEANIA 2012-04-01: Un stato de urgentia ha ess= ite declarate in Fiji. Quasi 7000 homines ha essite displaciate e duo homin= es ha essite occise durante inundationes. Le situation esseva expectate pej= orar se, con tempestas forte post le depression tropic 17F. DE EUROPA DEL = SUD E AFRICA 2012-04-04: Un terrorista-suicida ha facte un bomba exploder i= n le theatre national de Somalia in Mogadiscio durante un ceremonia, occide= nte al minus dece homines, includente le presidentes del Committee Olympic = de Somalia e le Federation de Somalia de Football. DE EUROPA DEL NORD-EST = E ASIA CENTRAL 2012-04-02: Al 30me anniversario de le Guerra de Falkland in= ter le Regno Unite e Argentina, Argentina menaciava per un action contra ba= ncas del Statos Unite e del Regno Unite. Le prime ministro del Regno Unite = David Cameron ha appellate le invasion per Argentina in le anno 1982 un tor= to profunde. 2012-04-09: Accusationes ha essite retracte contra Larisa Litv= inova in le causa del viro de lege Serguei Magnitski, le morte controverse = de qui in un prision in Russia habeva ducte a assertiones de tortura e negl= igentia. Le medica Larisa Litvinova habeva essite responsabile de un tracta= mento de Serguei Magnitski in le hora de su morte. DE STATOS UNITE DE AMER= ICA 2012-04-03: Votantes in le statos Maryland (SUA del sud) e Wisconsin (S= UA del nord) e in le capital Washington ha participate un election primari = republican. Mitt Romney ha ganiate in omne tres concursos. Le presidente de= l Statos Unite Barack Obama ha officialmente obtente le nomination per le P= artito Democratic, ganiante in le election primari democratic in Maryland, = Wisconsin e le capital Washington. 2012-04-08: Le policia ha arrestate duo = blancos suspecte de exequer un attacco per tirar contra nigres in Tulsa, Ok= lahoma, SUA del sud, que habeva evente ante un die, lassante tres homines m= orte e duo lese. Le tiros son investigate como un crimine de odio. Inter ha= bitantes de Tulsa, circa quatro sextes son blanc e un sexte es nigre. DE C= HINA 2012-04-05: Un compania chinese assecurante naves ha annunciate, que i= llo cessara indemnisar naves-cisternas portante petroleo de Iran. Isto repr= esenta un serramento continue de sanctiones del mundo contra Iran. 2012-04-= 10: Le Partito Communista de China ha excluse su ex-functionario senior Bo = Xilai ex le Bureau Politic, durante que su uxor Gu Kailai ha essite nominat= e como un suspecta del homicidio de un viro de affaires del Regno Unite. D= E ASIA DEL SUD-WEST 2012-04-08: Al minus 40 homines ha essite occise in le = tote Syria ante le data ultime pro fortias armate de Syria a retraher se ex= citates, como un parte de un plano de pace mediate per le emissario specia= l de le Nationes Unite e le Liga Arabe Kofi Annan. In su message paschal an= nual del Vaticano, le papa Benedicto XVI ha appellate particularmente pro u= n fin de le effusion de sanguine in Syria. 2012-04-08: Salvatores recercava= superviventes possibile de le avalanche, que habeva affecte un base de le = armea de Pakistan, interrante circa 135 homines, apud le glaciero de Siache= n disputate inter India e Pakistan. DE EUROPA DEL WEST E CANADA 2012-04-09= : Le ministro de le sanitate de Germania Daniel Bahr ha dicte al jornal Die= Welt, que le declaration per le governamento israelita de G=FCnter Grass c= omo un persona non grata es exaggerate. Illo esseva un reaction a su poema = "Que Debe Esser Dicte", condemnante le programma nucleari de Israel, un ann= ihilation possibile del iranianos per Israel e un livration de submarinos d= e Germania a Israel; le poema ha ergo essite classificate como un libello a= ntisemitic odiose. Su autor G=FCnter Grass es un recipiente del Premio Nobe= l de Litteratura del anno 1999. Interim, un sculptura celebrante le liberta= te de expression in Gottinga, Basse Saxonia, Germania del nord, ha essite r= evestite per un graffiti rubie dicente a G=FCnter Grass, que ille claude su= ore. DE ASIA DEL EST 2012-04-10: Functionarios spatial de Corea del Nord = ha avisate, que omne preparationes pro le lancha ha essite complete. Plure = lineas aeree in Asia ha provisorimente alterate routes de su volos pro evit= ar le rocchetta de Corea del Nord plus tarde in iste septimana. LINGUA Int= erlingua SONO http://www.box.com/s/eb9cb4a107b7a26c6bcb ACCENTO francese, p= ortuguese, italian, anglese, espaniol (2x), italian, espaniol, italian, esp= aniol, francese, espaniol MUSICA DE FUNDO Suite No. 1 in D minor, op. 15 de= Arthur Foote (SUA) LIGAMINE http://nuntios.blogspot.com/2012/04/2012-04-13= .html From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10387 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 86407 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2012 10:11:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2012 10:11:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng12-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.207) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2012 10:11:59 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.182] by ng12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2012 10:11:59 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.155] by tg7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2012 10:11:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:11:59 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Alicun novas de le prime tertie de april 2012 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=qZS3-JQK9e1JI6_kbFuuB0CudRr-49PoO3fK3C3pM8TvouYKz-TMoSzJA0te X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 E pro ko omna ista novas es tante chagreninda? Omnube katastrofes, ocides, = bombes, konfliktes, milites, menacies... Eske nula konstruktiva eveni? Ve, = yo ipsa no pova rememorar alkel bona novas in recenta tempe. Rosto. --- = In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel Svoboda" scr= iv: > > (UTF-8) > > DE AMERICA LATIN E OCEANIA > 2012-04-01: Un stato de u= rgentia ha essite declarate in Fiji. Quasi 7000 homines ha essite displacia= te e duo homines ha essite occise durante inundationes. Le situation esseva= expectate pejorar se, con tempestas forte post le depression tropic 17F. >= > DE EUROPA DEL SUD E AFRICA > 2012-04-04: Un terrorista-suicida ha facte= un bomba exploder in le theatre national de Somalia in Mogadiscio durante = un ceremonia, occidente al minus dece homines, includente le presidentes de= l Committee Olympic de Somalia e le Federation de Somalia de Football. > >= DE EUROPA DEL NORD-EST E ASIA CENTRAL > 2012-04-02: Al 30me anniversario d= e le Guerra de Falkland inter le Regno Unite e Argentina, Argentina menacia= va per un action contra bancas del Statos Unite e del Regno Unite. Le prime= ministro del Regno Unite David Cameron ha appellate le invasion per Argent= ina in le anno 1982 un torto profunde. > 2012-04-09: Accusationes ha essite= retracte contra Larisa Litvinova in le causa del viro de lege Serguei Magn= itski, le morte controverse de qui in un prision in Russia habeva ducte a a= ssertiones de tortura e negligentia. Le medica Larisa Litvinova habeva essi= te responsabile de un tractamento de Serguei Magnitski in le hora de su mor= te. > > DE STATOS UNITE DE AMERICA > 2012-04-03: Votantes in le statos Mar= yland (SUA del sud) e Wisconsin (SUA del nord) e in le capital Washington h= a participate un election primari republican. Mitt Romney ha ganiate in omn= e tres concursos. Le presidente del Statos Unite Barack Obama ha officialme= nte obtente le nomination per le Partito Democratic, ganiante in le electio= n primari democratic in Maryland, Wisconsin e le capital Washington. > 2012= -04-08: Le policia ha arrestate duo blanncos suspecte de exequer un attacco = per tirar contra nigres in Tulsa, Oklahoma, SUA del sud, que habeva evente = ante un die, lassante tres homines morte e duo lese. Le tiros son investiga= te como un crimine de odio. Inter habitantes de Tulsa, circa quatro sextes = son blanc e un sexte es nigre. > > DE CHINA > 2012-04-05: Un compania chin= ese assecurante naves ha annunciate, que illo cessara indemnisar naves-cist= ernas portante petroleo de Iran. Isto representa un serramento continue de = sanctiones del mundo contra Iran. > 2012-04-10: Le Partito Communista de Ch= ina ha excluse su ex-functionario senior Bo Xilai ex le Bureau Politic, dur= ante que su uxor Gu Kailai ha essite nominate como un suspecta del homicidi= o de un viro de affaires del Regno Unite. > > DE ASIA DEL SUD-WEST > 2012-= 04-08: Al minus 40 homines ha essite occise in le tote Syria ante le data u= ltime pro fortias armate de Syria a retraher se ex citates, como un parte d= e un plano de pace mediate per le emissario special de le Nationes Unite e = le Liga Arabe Kofi Annan. In su message paschal annual del Vaticano, le pap= a Benedicto XVI ha appellate particularmente pro un fin de le effusion de s= anguine in Syria. > 2012-04-08: Salvatores recercava superviventes possibil= e de le avalanche, que habeva affecte un base de le armea de Pakistan, inte= rrante circa 135 homines, apud le glaciero de Siachen disputate inter India= e Pakistan. > > DE EUROPA DEL WEST E CANADA > 2012-04-09: Le ministro de = le sanitate de Germania Daniel Bahr ha dicte al jornal Die Welt, que le dec= laration per le governamento israelita de G=FCnter Grass como un persona no= n grata es exaggerate. Illo esseva un reaction a su poema "Que Debe Esser D= icte", condemnante le programma nucleari de Israel, un annihilation possibi= le del iranianos per Israel e un livration de submarinos de Germania a Isra= el; le poema ha ergo essite classificate como un libello antisemitic odiose= . Su autor G=FCnter Grass es un recipiente del Premio Nobel de Litteratura = del anno 1999. Interim, un sculptura celebrante le libertate de expression = in Gottinga, Basse Saxonia, Germania del nord, ha essite revestite per un g= raffiti rubie dicente a G=FCnter Grass, que ille claude su ore. > > DE ASI= A DEL EST > 2012-04-10: Functionarios spatial de Corea del Nord ha avisate,= que omne preparationes pro le lancha ha essite complete. Plure lineas aere= e in Asia ha provisorimente alterate routes de su volos pro evitar le rocch= etta de Corea del Nord plus tarde in iste septimana. > > LINGUA > Interlin= gua > SONO > http://www.box.com/s/eb9cb4a107b7a26c6bcb > ACCENTO > francese= , portuguese, italian, anglese, espaniol (2x), italian, espaniol, italian, = espaniol, francese, espaniol > MUSICA DE FUNDO > Suite No. 1 in D minor, op= . 15 de Arthur Foote (SUA) > LIGAMINE > http://nuntios.blogspot.com/2012/04= /2012-04-13.html > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10388 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40902 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2012 11:54:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2012 11:54:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng10-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.78) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2012 11:54:30 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.122] by ng10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2012 11:54:30 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by tg3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2012 11:54:29 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:54:29 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Frazo #40 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=pRnMRqarfloldNjpcDtfOARENKtOC1jo7TyjLbrX336rgDGZV2Wz-1g X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kara James: Danko pro tua tradukuro de nia frazo #40 aden Novial. Me preg= as tu priklarigar lo yena: - Pro quo "Mause" e ne "Muse", qua aparas en la= vortaro? - Pro quo "abato" e ne "abate", se ni ne mencionas lua sexuo? Ka= "Muse" ed "abate" ne esas la justa vorti en Novial? Predanko por pluklari= gar tua tradukuro. * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- = En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler skribis: Novi= al: Mause kate chasad, kate hunde chasad, hunde puere chasad, puere abat= o chasad, e abato Dee chasad. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10389 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 36179 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2012 15:56:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2012 15:56:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng3-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.31) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2012 15:56:13 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.83] by ng3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2012 15:56:13 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by tg3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2012 15:56:13 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:56:13 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Un plus "la feino" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=v0K-hYEIhqDZH4kJBpt_KNiNzKwEETx8XFNrYDYpn0qnngX0WVRcJtlxsoMe X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Es bona kolektar in nosi wiki kuante posible maxim multa diversa textes in = diversa artificiala linguas. Anke "La Feino" sur un pagina in diversa ling= uas, yes. Almene literatura, yo pensa, es plu interesanta kam artikles pri = diversa montes, riveres, urbes, landes etc. Kande antropes komensa kompilar= nova wiki in su preferata lingua, yo pensa, ili frekuente fare un erore, p= rendente Wikipedia kom modele. Plu bona modele es exemplim http://neciklope= dio.wikia.com/ Kada nova wiki deve haver su individuala trates, atraktar pe= r alko, isto deve eser tre kreativa. Simple urbes, montes, scientistes e al= tra tala temas no es interesanta. Yo nun komensav kolektar sur li frontisp= icie (infre) de nosi http://postamundi.wikkii.com li liste de diversa wiki= s kel es skrita segun standarte de posta_Mundi: nun per IALes. Exemplim, wi= ki-vortares no es inkluzata, anke exemplim interlingua.wikia.com no es inkl= uzata ibe pro ke kuankam it es bona, ma kontene diversa vortares de naciona= la linguas. Forsan tamen li nuna kolekcione no es kompleta. Rosto. --- I= n posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" scriv: > > Ho,= yes, kara Rosto! > > Danko e gratuli pro tradukir "La Feino" aden Esperan= ta Sibelingua, > e pro enrejistrir ol per tua propra voco por ke ni povez p= arjuar ol. > > Ica rakonto divenas sempre plu popular inter ni, > e forsan= ol meritas posedar mem propra wiki-spaco > (che nia "wikkii"), ube publiki= gesus omna versioni existanta: > se me juste memoras, ni havas versioni dil= rakonto, adminime, > en Esperanto, Ido, Mondial, Paraglot, Populido, Pikto= grami, > Slovianska Sibelingua, Esperanta Sibelingua, Bazal, edc. > > Dume= , adavane tua Esperanta Sibelingua versiono > (apud tua Slovianska Sibelin= gua versiono) che PM#15! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * *= * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10390 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Li esis flugeskonta de Paris, London, Basel e Geneve por irar a Tel Av= iv,=C2=A0skope partoprenar la kampanio "Esez bonvenanta en Palestina" olqu= a vizas denuncar la fakto ke la vizitanti iranta a Cisjordania koaktesez t= rairar la teritorio Israelana. =C2=A0 PAKISTAN / ISLAMISTI ATAKAS KARCERO = Preske 400 enkarcerigiti, inter li esas islamista revoltanti, eskapis hier= e de karcero en nordwest-Pakistan,=C2=A0lando qua=C2=A0esas bastiono de gr= upi rebela,=C2=A0lor atako di qua Pakistanana talibani revendikas la respo= nsiveso. Ica informo difuzesis dal autoritatozi e dal asaltanti. Plu kam 1= 50 viri pezoze armizita kaptis asalte=C2=A0la centrala karcero di Bannu, p= roxima a la arei tribuala di Khyber e di Orakzai, per grenadi e lansili po= r supropulsanta projektili. =C2=A0 Emblemo di Pakistan =C2=A0 CHINIA / AC= IDENTI EN DU KARBON-MINEYI Adminime 15 ministi renkontris la morto dum la= pasinta semanofino en du mineyi inundita en Chinia, e sep plusa viri kons= ideresas kom desaparinti, segun la informili oficala. Un de la du mineyi n= e esis legala e funcionis sen permiso, nome lua exploto-permiso ne plus es= is valida. Lua proprietanti, lua direktisto e 19 plusa personi arestesis. = En 2011, 1.973 ministi mortis en Chinia lor acidenti. =C2=A0 Kordiala inter= retala saluti ad omni. JM :::-::: --1034822099-649928122-1334594547=:727977 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Jean Martign= on, che plura Ido-forumi)
 
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Lundie, ye la 16m= a di aprilo 2012.
 
Dio di santa Benediktus-Josef.
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / Kordio qua dezir= egas repozon ne havas.
 
ZODIAKO / En la zodiak= o-signo dil Arieto guvernata dal planeto Marso.
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VETERO / Alternante sunoza e nuboza cielo ma koldeta tempe= raturo, cajorne, en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
 
ISRAEL / PORPALESTINANA MILITANTI IMPEDES= AS EMBARKAR POR IROR A TEL AVIV
Plura kompanii avional refuzis transportar, seg= un demando dal autoritatozi Israelana, pasajeri, qui esis ironta a teritor= io Palestinana. Li esis flugeskonta de Paris, London, Basel e Geneve por i= rar a Tel Aviv, skope partoprenar la kampanio "Esez bonvenanta en Pal= estina" olqua vizas denuncar la fakto ke la vizitanti iranta a Cisjordania= koaktesez trairar la teritorio Israelana.
 
PAKISTAN / ISLAMISTI ATAKAS KARCER= O
Pre= ske 400 enkarcerigiti, inter li esas islamista revoltanti, eskapis hiere d= e karcero en nordwest-Pakistan, lando qua esas bastiono de grupi= rebela, lor atako di qua Pakistanana talibani revendikas la responsi= veso. Ica informo difuzesis dal autoritatozi e dal asaltanti. Plu kam 150 = viri pezoze armizita kaptis asalte la centrala karcero di Bannu, prox= ima a la arei tribuala di Khyber e di Orakzai, per grenadi e lansili por s= upropulsanta projektili.
 
Emblemo di P= akistan
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Adminime 15 ministi renkontris la m= orto dum la pasinta semanofino en du mineyi inundita en Chinia, e sep plus= a viri konsideresas kom desaparinti, segun la informili oficala. Un de la = du mineyi ne esis legala e funcionis sen permiso, nome lua exploto-permiso = ne plus esis valida. Lua proprietanti, lua direktisto e 19 plusa personi a= restesis. En 2011, 1.973 ministi mortis en Chinia lor acidenti.=
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Kordiala inte= rretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::
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--1034822099-649928122-1334594547=:727977-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10391 Return-Path: X-Sender: rosa_pinyol@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=186557725; y=4xje0VVGiaPw8CSMxSfNNSMnpmwV4CqcI8slKko5z7qtWK0mRoU X-Yahoo-Profile: okapidey !!!! AF=95D=95BOAB XVI=95IV=95MMXII 16=954=952012 Doro e Rosa... + Pi= lar. PILAR! :) !!!! Rosa --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qual= evistandas" escribi=F3: > > Esas en la mondo plu multa= mulieri kam viri, > tamen, sempre komentesis, ke esas tre poka > mulieri, = qui agas en nia helpo-lingual mondumo. > Pro quo? Ka neutra helpo-linguo in= ternaciona > ne esas same grava ed interesiva por ni omna? > Yen exemple ke= , che posta_Mundi, ni disponas > nur du mulieri inter nia publika membri: D= oro e Rosa. > Do, me maxim volunte invitas omna mulieri divenar > aktiva en= nia forumo, mem se, ul-kaze, li ne tote > dominacas la helpo-linguo per o= lqua li preferas skribar > (ne-dicinde, to anke validesas por viri. Kompren= ende). > Pro quo tante poka mulieri? Adavane ni omna ensemble! > (Partaka)= > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10392 Return-Path: X-Sender: andoromeda83@... 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Hir es le fraze #40 in Rapidlingue: Rapidlingue: Un kate cha= sa un muse, un hunde un kate et un garsono un hunde, un abate un garsono et= Teo un abate. * garsono es maskulinal, le alternative vud esar "infante".= Quam in mani natural lingues Rapidlingue not hava un komun forme pro garso= nos/juvinas. ** Teo es maskulinal. Le teos de monoteistik religiones es ma= skulinal in Rapidlingue. *** Kate, muse, hunde et abate es neutral re le se= xe. Abate pot esar neutral, bekaus it es un parole pro un funktione/profesi= one. **** Pro farar le fraze mor klar it es posibil ripetar le verbe: "Un = kate chaasa un muse, un hunde chasa un kate et un garsono chasa un hunde, u= n abate chasa un garsono et Teo chasa un abate. Kordialim Doro --- En po= sta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Ho= norinda kolegaro: > > Me maxim volunte prizentas a vi omna (en Ido) > nia = specal frazo #40, por ke, se omno en ordino, > ni povez tradukar ol aden ir= g altra helpo-lingui neutra. > > Ido: > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hu= ndon puero, > pueron abato ed abaton Deo. > > > 1. Omna bestio, persono = e Deo, qui aparas en la frazo, > reprezentesas per neutra vorti, nam ni ne = savas lia sexuo. > > 2. Esus bona, se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'a= kuzativo, > probus construktar la frazo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es, = > per pozar singla vorto akuzativa avan singla subjekto, quankam > on ya da= rfas agar anke altra-maniere. > > 3. Helpo-lingui, qui agas nur segun la v= ort-ordino, > probez tradukar la frazo sua-maniere! > "(Un) kato chasis (un= ) muso, (un) hundo...", edc. > > Kad omno klara ed en ordino? > Se yes, vo= luntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden nia diferanta LIA-sistemi! > > Predanko= ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * = * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10393 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Yen ke tui mesaje, vorte's e plende memorigay da me pri = certen jurnal, kel on editay kun nur bon notisie's. Omno bona! Nur bon noti= sie's! Nul mal notisie's! E yen ke tal jurnal no sucesay, ed ol baldei d= esaparay :-( Plen interesanti, ka no? Nu, ankei mei notisie esay un mal n= otisie! ;-) Vus omni standeu bon! Ma no diceu lo! (^_^) P A R T A K A * = * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribay: E pro ko omna ista novas es tante chagreninda? Omnu= be katastrofes, ocides, bombes, konfliktes, milites, menacies... Eske nula = konstruktiva eveni? Ve, yo ipsa no pova rememorar alkel bona novas in recen= ta tempe. Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel Svoboda= " scriv: (UTF-8) DE AMERICA LATIN E OCEANIA 2012-04-0= 1: Un stato de urgentia ha essite declarate in Fiji. Quasi 7000 homines ha = essite displaciate e duo homines ha essite occise durante inundationes. Le = situation esseva expectate pejorar se, con tempestas forte post le depressi= on tropic 17F. DE EUROPA DEL SUD E AFRICA 2012-04-04: Un terrorista-suici= da ha facte un bomba exploder in le theatre national de Somalia in Mogadisc= io durante un ceremonia, occidente al minus dece homines, includente le pre= sidentes del Committee Olympic de Somalia e le Federation de Somalia de Foo= tball. DE EUROPA DEL NORD-EST E ASIA CENTRAL 2012-04-02: Al 30me annivers= ario de le Guerra de Falkland inter le Regno Unite e Argentina, Argentina m= enaciava per un action contra bancas del Statos Unite e del Regno Unite. Le= prime ministro del Regno Unite David Cameron ha appellate le invasion per = Argentina in le anno 1982 un torto profunde. 2012-04-09: Accusationes ha es= site retracte contra Larisa Litvinova in le causa del viro de lege Serguei = Magnitski, le morte controverse de qui in un prision in Russia habeva ducte= a assertiones de tortura e negligentia. Le medica Larisa Litvinova habeva = essite responsabile de un tractamento de Serguei Magnitski in le hora de su= morte. DE STATOS UNITE DE AMERICA 2012-04-03: Votantes in le statos Mary= land (SUA del sud) e Wisconsin (SUA del nord) e in le capital Washington ha= participate un election primari republican. Mitt Romney ha ganiate in omne= tres concursos. Le presidente del Statos Unite Barack Obama ha officialmen= te obtente le nomination per le Partito Democratic, ganiante in le election= primari democratic in Maryland, Wisconsin e le capital Washington. 2012-04= -08: Le policia ha arrestate duo blancoss suspecte de exequer un attacco per= tirar contra nigres in Tulsa, Oklahoma, SUA del sud, que habeva evente ant= e un die, lassante tres homines morte e duo lese. Le tiros son investigate = como un crimine de odio. Inter habitantes de Tulsa, circa quatro sextes son= blanc e un sexte es nigre. DE CHINA 2012-04-05: Un compania chinese asse= curante naves ha annunciate, que illo cessara indemnisar naves-cisternas po= rtante petroleo de Iran. Isto representa un serramento continue de sanction= es del mundo contra Iran. 2012-04-10: Le Partito Communista de China ha exc= luse su ex-functionario senior Bo Xilai ex le Bureau Politic, durante que s= u uxor Gu Kailai ha essite nominate como un suspecta del homicidio de un vi= ro de affaires del Regno Unite. DE ASIA DEL SUD-WEST 2012-04-08: Al minus= 40 homines ha essite occise in le tote Syria ante le data ultime pro forti= as armate de Syria a retraher se ex citates, como un parte de un plano de p= ace mediate per le emissario special de le Nationes Unite e le Liga Arabe K= ofi Annan. 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Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" scriv: > > Ho, yes, kara Rosto! > > Danko e gratuli pro tradukir "La F= eino" aden Esperanta Sibelingua, > e pro enrejistrir ol per tua propra voco= por ke ni povez parjuar ol. > > Ica rakonto divenas sempre plu popular in= ter ni, > e forsan ol meritas posedar mem propra wiki-spaco > (che nia "wik= kii"), ube publikigesus omna versioni existanta: > se me juste memoras, ni = havas versioni dil rakonto, adminime, > en Esperanto, Ido, Mondial, Paraglo= t, Populido, Piktogrami, > Slovianska Sibelingua, Esperanta Sibelingua, Baz= al, edc. > > Dume, adavane tua Esperanta Sibelingua versiono > (apud tua = Slovianska Sibelingua versiono) che PM#15! > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10395 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_20206534-0be2-4062-823a-c6b0b7be4f9d_" To: posta_mundi Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:24:54 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2012 08:24:54.0696 (UTC) FILETIME=[913A8280:01CD1C73] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [posta_Mundi] RE: Frazo #40 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=8gjKQeypyLaNGsg6Kp_Tvavgim8QOPtDF0v_YardJE4 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc --_20206534-0be2-4062-823a-c6b0b7be4f9d__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Partaka Pri la defino di abado la Ido-vortari esas ambigua. Videz = exemple: http://io.wiktionary.org/wiki/abado Semantiko: Superioro di mo= nakeyo (katolika) de viri, di olqua la revenui esis benefico por ilta qua h= avis l'ofico. Simile en Dyer. Pri mause v. muse voluntez vidar Plubonis= at Novial: http://interlanguages.net/PN.html Kordiale > To: posta_M= undi@yahoogroups.com > From: chepartaka@... > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 201= 2 11:54:29 +0000 > Subject: [posta_Mundi] RE: Frazo #40 > > Kara James: > = > Danko pro tua tradukuro de nia frazo #40 aden Novial. > > Me pregas tu = priklarigar lo yena: > > - Pro quo "Mause" e ne "Muse", qua aparas en la v= ortaro? > - Pro quo "abato" e ne "abate", se ni ne mencionas lua sexuo? > = > Ka "Muse" ed "abate" ne esas la justa vorti en Novial? > > Predanko por = pluklarigar tua tradukuro. > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * *= * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > James Chandler skribis: > > > Novial: > > Mause kate chasad, kate hunde chasad,= hunde puere chasad, > puere abato chasad, e abato Dee chasad. > > > > = > ------------------------------------ > > Enlaces a Yahoo! 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Kara Partaka
 
Pri la defin= o di abado la Ido-vortari esas ambigua.  Videz exemple:
 
= http://io.wiktionary.org/w= iki/abado
 
Semantiko: Superioro di monakeyo (katolika= ) de viri, di olqua la revenui esis benefico por ilta qua havis l'ofico.  
Simile en Dyer.
 
Pri mause v. muse voluntez = ;vidar Plubonisat Novial:
 
http://interlanguages.net/PN.html
 
Kordiale
 
> To: posta_= Mundi@yahoogroups.com
> From: chepartaka@...
> Date: Mo= n, 16 Apr 2012 11:54:29 +0000
> Subject: [posta_Mundi] RE: Frazo #40<= BR>>
> Kara James:
>
> Danko pro tua tradukuro de ni= a frazo #40 aden Novial.
>
> Me pregas tu priklarigar lo yena:=
>
> - Pro quo "Mause" e ne "Muse", qua aparas en la vortaro?<= BR>> - Pro quo "abato" e ne "abate", se ni ne mencionas lua sexuo?
&g= t;
> Ka "Muse" ed "abate" ne esas la justa vorti en Novial?
> =
> Predanko por pluklarigar tua tradukuro.
>
>
> = * * * * * * * *
> p a r t a k a
> * * * * * * * *
> > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
> James Chandler skribis:
>
>
> Novial:
>
> Mause = kate chasad, kate hunde chasad, hunde puere chasad,
> puere abato cha= sad, e abato Dee chasad.
>
>
>
>
> ------= ------------------------------
>
>> Enlaces a Yahoo! Grupos
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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79455 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2012 16:02:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Apr 2012 16:02:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng13-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.216) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2012 16:02:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.177] by ng13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2012 16:02:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by tg2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2012 16:02:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:02:35 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Dorothea" Subject: RE: [MM] Pro quo tante poka mulieri? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=297638457; y=UrPzW2GwRPOQcIkoApX_Kwwheph_M0LjyLO-Ji9DQ4nteNMLNxfR X-Yahoo-Profile: andoromeda83 Kar Partaka! Not es mani feminas aktiv in le monde del planlingues. To es = un fakte. Pero le questione es pro quo? Not es facil generalisar isti teme,= pero yo prova it biskim (pokim) ora. Generalim feminas hava min liber te= mpe quam viros. Feminas must frequentim laborar mor in heme pro le menaje q= uam viros. Kustomalim tamben feminas must preokupar se multim mor pro le in= fantes quam le viros. Simplim not resta tant mult tempore pro exotik hobies= in heme. Tokaus not es inter feminas frequentim havar un tempintensiv hobi= e quam planlingues. Frequentim elas prefera uzar le liber tempore pro perso= nal kontaktes, inkontrar amikes, telefonar, lektar od relaxar. In le normal= skeme de liber-tempe konduktione de feminas un planlingue not fita bunim. = Pero feminas hava un gran talente pro lingues. In le skoles frequentim le = juvinas es mor sucesos in le lingues quam le garsonos. Un juvina komensa ku= stomalim mor frutemp parolar quam un garsono. Kustomalim feminas et juvinas= es plu komunikativ quam viros et garsonos. Pero pro komunikatione on bezo= na partneres et okasiones. Le komunikativ valore de planlingues not es gran= . Simplim not es mani persones, kon queles on pot parlar. Pro quo aprendar = un lingue if on not hava le chance uzar it? Demor not exista un konkret lan= de od regione in quel on pot parlar planlingues. Feminas hava le tendencie = uzar lor liber tempe mor rationalim quam viros. Tokaus aprendar un planling= ue sembla a feminas mor quam un perde de lor ja limitisat tempe. Pro femi= nas tamben important es le estetikal aspekte de lingues. Segun le feminal e= stetike mani planlingues qualim Esperanto et Volap=FCk simplim es led et ko= ld. Un alter important aspekte pro feminas okupar se re temes es afektione.= On kognoska un persone ex un alter lande, havar bel memories a un lande ka= us un vakantie od on ama on libre, autore, musike in un cert lingue et toka= us on vol aprendar it. Tamben pro isti aspektes planlingues oferta nur bisk= im a feminas. Hodie le most important loke pro planlingues es le internete= . Komunikar kon persones nur per le internete et not personalim od adminim = per telefone not es atraktiv pro feminas. Faktim nur Esperanto oferta le ch= ance parolar le lingue in le real monde per frequent personal inkontres. Le= tendencie pasar su limitat libertempe davan le komputere inter feminas not= es tant gran quam inter viros. Segun statistikes ja inter eleves et studen= tes le garsonos pasa mult mor tempe davan le komputere quam juvinas. In le= internetal diskusiones re planlingues on trova frequentim quereles et agre= siv diskusiones inter le membres de internet-listes et forumes. Generalim f= eminas not ama un tal agresiv konduktione et havar angste devenar self un t= argete de eni ofendes. In isti regarde feminas es mor sensitiv quam viros e= t timar tal negativ publik kritike. Mi prim verim not bun lingual projekte = esav kritikat muy strongim in un "conlang"-forume. Yo sentiav muy ofendat e= t not volav me okupar mor re proper planlingual projektes asta yo deskovrav= le grupe Posta Mundi. Pro isti angste feminas frequentim not skriba multi= m in le internet-listes, pero lekta taciturnantim. Demor sinfin teoretik di= skusiones re eni gramatikal detalies kolida kon le feminal preference del p= ratical uze de un lingue. Demor un aspekte es que le hobie de planlingues = not hava un bun imaje hodie. It es konsiderat frequentim quam un hobie de o= ld viros et fanatikeres. Kaus le faktal dominantie del anglum feminas not v= ol sakrifisar tempe pro un tal ja perdat afere quam planlingues. Mi argume= ntes baza sur mi proper experientie pero tamben sur komunikationes kon alte= r feminas re le tema planlingues. Naturalmen it es un personal viste de opi= nione. Certim mani arguementes kontre planlingues in isti artikle tamben es= valid pro viros. On certim not pot generalisa everi femina od everi viro. = Yo ha nur provar deskribat som tendencies. Kordialim Doro --- En posta_= Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > = > Esas en la mondo plu multa mulieri kam viri, > tamen, sempre komentesis, = ke esas tre poka > mulieri, qui agas en nia helpo-lingual mondumo. > Pro qu= o? Ka neutra helpo-linguo internaciona > ne esas same grava ed interesiva p= or ni omna? > Yen exemple ke, che posta_Mundi, ni disponas > nur du mulieri= inter nia publika membri: Doro e Rosa. > Do, me maxim volunte invitas omna= mulieri divenar > aktiva en nia forumo, mem se, ul-kaze, li ne tote > dom= inacas la helpo-linguo per olqua li preferas skribar > (ne-dicinde, to anke= validesas por viri. Komprenende). > Pro quo tante poka mulieri? Adavane ni= omna ensemble! > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10398 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 85673 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2012 16:15:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Apr 2012 16:15:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng12-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.148) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2012 16:15:47 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.81] by ng12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2012 16:15:46 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by tg10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2012 16:15:46 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:15:43 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: [MM] Pro quo tante poka mulieri? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=Hq7vKaCw0edTAdZVGYUxm9NnXoq_g4eyUgr8HXJpQWhuyLrpRG152Dg X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Ho, yes, estimata Rosa! Me ne obliviabas nia kara kompano, Pilar, muliero = qua kunlaboris, advere bone ed efikive, dum l'unesma yari dil forumo posta= _Mundi; tamen, Pilar ne plus esas membro di nia grupo (de plura yari ante n= un), yen pro quo me ne skribis elua nomo lor mencionar nia nur du mulieri, = qui esas aktiva, inter la nuna publika membri di posta_Mundi. Irga-kaze, m= e multe dankas e gratulas omna tri (Rosa, Doro e Pilar) pro via olima e nun= a kunlaboro. Kurajo ed adavane, mulieri, che nia LIA-movemento! P A R T = A K A * * * * * * * * * -- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "okapidey" skribis: !!!! AF=95D=95BOAB XVI=95IV=95MMXII 16= =954=952012 Doro e Rosa... + Pilar. PILAR! :) !!!! Rosa = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" es= cribi=F3: Esas en la mondo plu multa mulieri kam viri, tamen, sempre komen= tesis, ke esas tre poka mulieri, qui agas en nia helpo-lingual mondumo. Pro= quo? Ka neutra helpo-linguo internaciona ne esas same grava ed interesiva = por ni omna? Yen exemple ke, che posta_Mundi, ni disponas nur du mulieri in= ter nia publika membri: Doro e Rosa. Do, me maxim volunte invitas omna muli= eri divenar aktiva en nia forumo, mem se, ul-kaze, li ne tote dominacas la= helpo-linguo per olqua li preferas skribar (ne-dicinde, to anke validesas = por viri. Komprenende). Pro quo tante poka mulieri? Adavane ni omna ensembl= e! (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10399 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Danko pro tua respondo-mesajo. Relate la formo "abado" (en I= do), la definuro en la Radikaro da Pesch, segun semblo, ne esas ambigua, ma= direte eroroza e korektigenda, nam existas "abadulo" ed "abadino", do "aba= do" mustas esar neutra. E relate Novial, quankam la formo "muse" esas anke= korekta, ni aceptez "mause" en tua tradukuro, quoniam Jespersen ipsa prefe= ris olca kam olta. Tamen, se tu ne kontredicas lo, ni uzez "abate" (vice "a= bato") kom neutra formo, quan anke Dimitri sugestis. Novial: Mause kate ch= asad, kate hunde chasad, hunde puere chasad, puere abate chasad, e abate De= e chasad. Adavane nia frazo #40! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * *= * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler = skribis: Kara Partaka Pri la defino di abado la Ido-vortari esas ambi= gua. Videz exemple: http://io.wiktionary.org/wiki/abado Semantiko: S= uperioro di monakeyo (katolika) de viri, di olqua la revenui esis benefico = por ilta qua havis l'ofico. Simile en Dyer. Pri mause v. muse volunte= z vidar Plubonisat Novial: http://interlanguages.net/PN.html Kordiale= > To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > From: chepartaka@... > Date: Mo= n, 16 Apr 2012 11:54:29 +0000 > Subject: [posta_Mundi] RE: Frazo #40 Kara= James: Danko pro tua tradukuro de nia frazo #40 aden Novial. Me pregas= tu priklarigar lo yena: - Pro quo "Mause" e ne "Muse", qua aparas en la = vortaro? - Pro quo "abato" e ne "abate", se ni ne mencionas lua sexuo? Ka= "Muse" ed "abate" ne esas la justa vorti en Novial? Predanko por pluklar= igar tua tradukuro. * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * -= -- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler skribis: No= vial: Mause kate chasad, kate hunde chasad, hunde puere chasad, puere aba= to chasad, e abato Dee chasad. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10400 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=337052799 --Apple-Mail-4--102603765 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Car Dorothea! Le femini son exelente in crear e designar lingui auxiliari. = Et io non crede ce il ha ule discriminicazioni in iste campe. Tu es inovati= ve, e tu rapidlingue es clar et distincte. Io vole te congratuler co tu obr= i. Con saluti cordiali! Osmund Den 17. apr. 2012 kl. 18:02 skrev "Dorothe= a" : > Kar Partaka! > > Not es mani feminas aktiv = in le monde del planlingues. To es un fakte. Pero le questione es pro quo? = Not es facil generalisar isti teme, pero yo prova it biskim (pokim) ora. >= > Generalim feminas hava min liber tempe quam viros. Feminas must frequen= tim laborar mor in heme pro le menaje quam viros. Kustomalim tamben feminas= must preokupar se multim mor pro le infantes quam le viros. Simplim not re= sta tant mult tempore pro exotik hobies in heme. Tokaus not es inter femina= s frequentim havar un tempintensiv hobie quam planlingues. Frequentim elas = prefera uzar le liber tempore pro personal kontaktes, inkontrar amikes, tel= efonar, lektar od relaxar. In le normal skeme de liber-tempe konduktione de= feminas un planlingue not fita bunim. > > Pero feminas hava un gran talen= te pro lingues. In le skoles frequentim le juvinas es mor sucesos in le lin= gues quam le garsonos. Un juvina komensa kustomalim mor frutemp parolar qua= m un garsono. Kustomalim feminas et juvinas es plu komunikativ quam viros e= t garsonos. > > Pero pro komunikatione on bezona partneres et okasiones. L= e komunikativ valore de planlingues not es gran. Simplim not es mani person= es, kon queles on pot parlar. Pro quo aprendar un lingue if on not hava le = chance uzar it? Demor not exista un konkret lande od regione in quel on pot= parlar planlingues. Feminas hava le tendencie uzar lor liber tempe mor rat= ionalim quam viros. Tokaus aprendar un planlingue sembla a feminas mor quam= un perde de lor ja limitisat tempe. > > Pro feminas tamben important es = le estetikal aspekte de lingues. Segun le feminal estetike mani planlingues= qualim Esperanto et Volap=C3=BCk simplim es led et kold. Un alter importan= t aspekte pro feminas okupar se re temes es afektione. On kognoska un perso= ne ex un alter lande, havar bel memories a un lande kaus un vakantie od on = ama on libre, autore, musike in un cert lingue et tokaus on vol aprendar it= . Tamben pro isti aspektes planlingues oferta nur biskim a feminas. > > Ho= die le most important loke pro planlingues es le internete. Komunikar kon p= ersones nur per le internete et not personalim od adminim per telefone not = es atraktiv pro feminas. Faktim nur Esperanto oferta le chance parolar le l= ingue in le real monde per frequent personal inkontres. Le tendencie pasar = su limitat libertempe davan le komputere inter feminas not es tant gran qua= m inter viros. Segun statistikes ja inter eleves et studentes le garsonos p= asa mult mor tempe davan le komputere quam juvinas. > > In le internetal d= iskusiones re planlingues on trova frequentim quereles et agresiv diskusion= es inter le membres de internet-listes et forumes. Generalim feminas not am= a un tal agresiv konduktione et havar angste devenar self un targete de eni= ofendes. In isti regarde feminas es mor sensitiv quam viros et timar tal n= egativ publik kritike. Mi prim verim not bun lingual projekte esav kritikat= muy strongim in un "conlang"-forume. Yo sentiav muy ofendat et not volav m= e okupar mor re proper planlingual projektes asta yo deskovrav le grupe Pos= ta Mundi. Pro isti angste feminas frequentim not skriba multim in le intern= et-listes, pero lekta taciturnantim. Demor sinfin teoretik diskusiones re e= ni gramatikal detalies kolida kon le feminal preference del pratical uze de= un lingue. > > Demor un aspekte es que le hobie de planlingues not hava u= n bun imaje hodie. It es konsiderat frequentim quam un hobie de old viros e= t fanatikeres. Kaus le faktal dominantie del anglum feminas not vol sakrifi= sar tempe pro un tal ja perdat afere quam planlingues. > > Mi argumentes b= aza sur mi proper experientie pero tamben sur komunikationes kon alter femi= nas re le tema planlingues. Naturalmen it es un personal viste de opinione.= Certim mani arguementes kontre planlingues in isti artikle tamben es valid= pro viros. On certim not pot generalisa everi femina od everi viro. Yo ha = nur provar deskribat som tendencies. > > Kordialim > Doro > > --- En pos= ta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=C3= =B3: > > > > Esas en la mondo plu multa mulieri kam viri, > > tamen, sempre= komentesis, ke esas tre poka > > mulieri, qui agas en nia helpo-lingual mo= ndumo. > > Pro quo? Ka neutra helpo-linguo internaciona > > ne esas same gr= ava ed interesiva por ni omna? > > Yen exemple ke, che posta_Mundi, ni disp= onas > > nur du mulieri inter nia publika membri: Doro e Rosa. > > Do, me m= axim volunte invitas omna mulieri divenar > > aktiva en nia forumo, mem se,= ul-kaze, li ne tote > > dominacas la helpo-linguo per olqua li preferas s= kribar > > (ne-dicinde, to anke validesas por viri. Komprenende). > > Pro q= uo tante poka mulieri? Adavane ni omna ensemble! > > (Partaka) > > > > --Apple-Mail-4--102603765 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Car Dorothea!
Le femini son = exelente in crear e designar lingui auxiliari. Et io non crede ce il ha ule= discriminicazioni in iste campe. Tu es inovative, e tu rapidlingue es clar= et distincte. Io vole te congratuler co tu obri.
Con saluti cord= iali!

Osmund

Den 17. apr. 2012 kl. 18:02 skrev "Doroth= ea" <andoromeda83@...&= gt;:

 
=

Kar Partaka!

Not es mani feminas aktiv in le monde del = planlingues. To es un fakte. Pero le questione es pro quo? Not es facil gen= eralisar isti teme, pero yo prova it biskim (pokim) ora.

Generali= m feminas hava min liber tempe quam viros. Feminas must frequentim laborar = mor in heme pro le menaje quam viros. Kustomalim tamben feminas must preoku= par se multim mor pro le infantes quam le viros. Simplim not resta tant mul= t tempore pro exotik hobies in heme. Tokaus not es inter feminas frequentim= havar un tempintensiv hobie quam planlingues. Frequentim elas prefera uzar= le liber tempore pro personal kontaktes, inkontrar amikes, telefonar, lekt= ar od relaxar. In le normal skeme de liber-tempe konduktione de feminas un = planlingue not fita bunim.

Pero feminas hava un gran talente pro l= ingues. In le skoles frequentim le juvinas es mor sucesos in le lingues qua= m le garsonos. Un juvina komensa kustomalim mor frutemp parolar quam un gar= sono. Kustomalim feminas et juvinas es plu komunikativ quam viros et garson= os.

Pero pro komunikatione on bezona partneres et okasiones. Le ko= munikativ valore de planlingues not es gran. Simplim not es mani persones, = kon queles on pot parlar. Pro quo aprendar un lingue if on not hava le chan= ce uzar it? Demor not exista un konkret lande od regione in quel on pot par= lar planlingues. Feminas hava le tendencie uzar lor liber tempe mor rationa= lim quam viros. Tokaus aprendar un planlingue sembla a feminas mor quam un = perde de lor ja limitisat tempe.

Pro feminas tamben important es = le estetikal aspekte de lingues. Segun le feminal estetike mani planlingues= qualim Esperanto et Volap=C3=BCk simplim es led et kold. Un alter importan= t aspekte pro feminas okupar se re temes es afektione. On kognoska un perso= ne ex un alter lande, havar bel memories a un lande kaus un vakantie od on = ama on libre, autore, musike in un cert lingue et tokaus on vol aprendar it= . Tamben pro isti aspektes planlingues oferta nur biskim a feminas.
Hodie le most important loke pro planlingues es le internete. Komunikar k= on persones nur per le internete et not personalim od adminim per telefone = not es atraktiv pro feminas. Faktim nur Esperanto oferta le chance parolar = le lingue in le real monde per frequent personal inkontres. Le tendencie pa= sar su limitat libertempe davan le komputere inter feminas not es tant gran= quam inter viros. Segun statistikes ja inter eleves et studentes le garson= os pasa mult mor tempe davan le komputere quam juvinas.

In le inte= rnetal diskusiones re planlingues on trova frequentim quereles et agresiv d= iskusiones inter le membres de internet-listes et forumes. Generalim femina= s not ama un tal agresiv konduktione et havar angste devenar self un target= e de eni ofendes. In isti regarde feminas es mor sensitiv quam viros et tim= ar tal negativ publik kritike. Mi prim verim not bun lingual projekte esav = kritikat muy strongim in un "conlang"-forume. Yo sentiav muy ofendat et not= volav me okupar mor re proper planlingual projektes asta yo deskovrav le g= rupe Posta Mundi. Pro isti angste feminas frequentim not skriba multim in = le internet-listes, pero lekta taciturnantim. Demor sinfin teoretik diskusi= ones re eni gramatikal detalies kolida kon le feminal preference del pratic= al uze de un lingue.

Demor un aspekte es que le hobie de planlingu= es not hava un bun imaje hodie. It es konsiderat frequentim quam un hobie d= e old viros et fanatikeres. Kaus le faktal dominantie del anglum feminas no= t vol sakrifisar tempe pro un tal ja perdat afere quam planlingues.
Mi argumentes baza sur mi proper experientie pero tamben sur komunikation= es kon alter feminas re le tema planlingues. Naturalmen it es un personal v= iste de opinione. Certim mani arguementes kontre planlingues in isti artikl= e tamben es valid pro viros. On certim not pot generalisa everi femina od e= veri viro. Yo ha nur provar deskribat som tendencies.

Kordialim Doro

--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=C3=B3:
><= br> > Esas en la mondo plu multa mulieri kam viri,
> tamen, sempr= e komentesis, ke esas tre poka
> mulieri, qui agas en nia helpo-ling= ual mondumo.
> Pro quo? Ka neutra helpo-linguo internaciona
>= ne esas same grava ed interesiva por ni omna?
> Yen exemple ke, che= posta_Mundi, ni disponas
> nur du mulieri inter nia publika membri:= Doro e Rosa.
> Do, me maxim volunte invitas omna mulieri divenar > aktiva en nia forumo, mem se, ul-kaze, li ne tote
> dominaca= s la helpo-linguo per olqua li preferas skribar
> (ne-dicinde, to an= ke validesas por viri. Komprenende).
> Pro quo tante poka mulieri? A= davane ni omna ensemble!
> (Partaka)
>

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=An_O1NFV1eHKUW8LSG_yQMpsvzfS9iuGQugdXyHX37CpCcSz46eW62I X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Maxim kordial saluto, Doro! Danko e gratuli pro tua longa, detaloza ed ins= pirita mesajo, olquan, forsan, tu povus mem publikigar en POSTA MUNDI #15, = kaze ke l'amiko Rosto konkordas prie, ka ne? Se yes, yen ke ni havus ulo pl= usa en Rapidlingue ne nur por nia jurnalo, ma anke por nia "wikkii". Plusa= danki e gratuli pro tua LIA-laboro, ed adavane Rapidlingue, kara Doro! = P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Dor= othea" skribis: > > Kar Partaka! > > Not es mani femina= s aktiv in le monde del planlingues. To es un fakte. Pero le questione es p= ro quo? Not es facil generalisar isti teme, pero yo prova it biskim (pokim)= ora. > > Generalim feminas hava min liber tempe quam viros. Feminas must= frequentim laborar mor in heme pro le menaje quam viros. Kustomalim tamben= feminas must preokupar se multim mor pro le infantes quam le viros. Simpli= m not resta tant mult tempore pro exotik hobies in heme. Tokaus not es inte= r feminas frequentim havar un tempintensiv hobie quam planlingues. Frequent= im elas prefera uzar le liber tempore pro personal kontaktes, inkontrar ami= kes, telefonar, lektar od relaxar. In le normal skeme de liber-tempe konduk= tione de feminas un planlingue not fita bunim. > > Pero feminas hava un gr= an talente pro lingues. In le skoles frequentim le juvinas es mor sucesos i= n le lingues quam le garsonos. Un juvina komensa kustomalim mor frutemp par= olar quam un garsono. Kustomalim feminas et juvinas es plu komunikativ quam= viros et garsonos. > > Pero pro komunikatione on bezona partneres et okas= iones. Le komunikativ valore de planlingues not es gran. Simplim not es man= i persones, kon queles on pot parlar. Pro quo aprendar un lingue if on not = hava le chance uzar it? Demor not exista un konkret lande od regione in que= l on pot parlar planlingues. Feminas hava le tendencie uzar lor liber tempe= mor rationalim quam viros. Tokaus aprendar un planlingue sembla a feminas = mor quam un perde de lor ja limitisat tempe. > > Pro feminas tamben impor= tant es le estetikal aspekte de lingues. Segun le feminal estetike mani pla= nlingues qualim Esperanto et Volap=FCk simplim es led et kold. Un alter imp= ortant aspekte pro feminas okupar se re temes es afektione. On kognoska un = persone ex un alter lande, havar bel memories a un lande kaus un vakantie o= d on ama on libre, autore, musike in un cert lingue et tokaus on vol aprend= ar it. Tamben pro isti aspektes planlingues oferta nur biskim a feminas. > = > Hodie le most important loke pro planlingues es le internete. Komunikar = kon persones nur per le internete et not personalim od adminim per telefone= not es atraktiv pro feminas. Faktim nur Esperanto oferta le chance parolar= le lingue in le real monde per frequent personal inkontres. Le tendencie p= asar su limitat libertempe davan le komputere inter feminas not es tant gra= n quam inter viros. Segun statistikes ja inter eleves et studentes le garso= nos pasa mult mor tempe davan le komputere quam juvinas. > > In le interne= tal diskusiones re planlingues on trova frequentim quereles et agresiv disk= usiones inter le membres de internet-listes et forumes. Generalim feminas n= ot ama un tal agresiv konduktione et havar angste devenar self un targete d= e eni ofendes. In isti regarde feminas es mor sensitiv quam viros et timar = tal negativ publik kritike. Mi prim verim not bun lingual projekte esav kri= tikat muy strongim in un "conlang"-forume. Yo sentiav muy ofendat et not vo= lav me okupar mor re proper planlingual projektes asta yo deskovrav le grup= e Posta Mundi. Pro isti angste feminas frequentim not skriba multim in le = internet-listes, pero lekta taciturnantim. Demor sinfin teoretik diskusione= s re eni gramatikal detalies kolida kon le feminal preference del pratical = uze de un lingue. > > Demor un aspekte es que le hobie de planlingues not = hava un bun imaje hodie. It es konsiderat frequentim quam un hobie de old v= iros et fanatikeres. Kaus le faktal dominantie del anglum feminas not vol s= akrifisar tempe pro un tal ja perdat afere quam planlingues. > > Mi argume= ntes baza sur mi proper experientie pero tamben sur komunikationes kon alte= r feminas re le tema planlingues. Naturalmen it es un personal viste de opi= nione. Certim mani arguementes kontre planlingues in isti artikle tamben es= valid pro viros. On certim not pot generalisa everi femina od everi viro. = Yo ha nur provar deskribat som tendencies. > > Kordialim > Doro > > > -= -- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "quallevistandas" escri= bi=F3: > > > > Esas en la mondo plu multa mulieri kam viri, > > tamen, semp= re komentesis, ke esas tre poka > > mulieri, qui agas en nia helpo-lingual = mondumo. > > Pro quo? Ka neutra helpo-linguo internaciona > > ne esas same = grava ed interesiva por ni omna? > > Yen exemple ke, che posta_Mundi, ni di= sponas > > nur du mulieri inter nia publika membri: Doro e Rosa. > > Do, me= maxim volunte invitas omna mulieri divenar > > aktiva en nia forumo, mem s= e, ul-kaze, li ne tote > > dominacas la helpo-linguo per olqua li preferas= skribar > > (ne-dicinde, to anke validesas por viri. Komprenende). > > Pro= quo tante poka mulieri? Adavane ni omna ensemble! > > (Partaka) > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10402 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95991 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2012 01:33:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Apr 2012 01:33:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng20-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.120) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2012 01:33:37 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.180] by ng20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 01:33:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 01:33:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:33:35 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Frazo #40 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=lybZC16W8zyQsmfv0yf2ei2v5jIDTZg6y4T4uz0aY7qyY4lAU2eZNuk X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Bon jorno, amiko! Tamen, voluntez atencar lo sequanta: 1. La tempo verbal= di nia frazo es preterita (Kad "Un kate chasav un muse"?) 2. Se posibla, = oportus evitar la vorto "garsono", nam ol ne esas neutra, e ne tradukas la = formo "puero" (en Ido): "puero" povas referar a "puerulo" o "puerino" evant= a inter 7 e 15 yari. Ed "infanto", ad "infantulo" od "infantino" evanta min= kam 7 yari. Do, se Rapidlingue havas "infante, infanto, infanta", yen ke = "infante", forsan, esus plu bona por nia frazo, ma nur se (en Rapidlingue) = on konsiderus "infante" esar "infanto" od "infanta" evanta til 15 yari (plu= -min). 3. Se ne: ka ne esas od esos posibla en Rapidlingue disponar ula ne= utra formo equivalanta "puero" Idal? Me komprenas, ke tu ne volas prenar la= radiko "puer", ma... - kinde, kindo, kinda (?) - juvine, juvino, juvina (?= ) - juvinite, juvinito, juvinita (?) - adolescente, adolescanto, adolescent= a (?) Voluntez sendar a me tua tradukuro definitiva di nia frazo #40, e = me certe inkluzos ol, tal qual, en mea nexta listo, oke? Maxim kordial sal= uto, Doru! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_= Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Dorothea" skribis: Kar Partaka= ! Hir es le fraze #40 in Rapidlingue: Rapidlingue: Un kate chasa un mus= e, un hunde un kate et un garsono un hunde, un abate un garsono et Teo un a= bate. * garsono es maskulinal, le alternative vud esar "infante". Quam in= mani natural lingues Rapidlingue not hava un komun forme pro garsonos/juvi= nas. ** Teo es maskulinal. Le teos de monoteistik religiones es maskulinal= in Rapidlingue. *** Kate, muse, hunde et abate es neutral re le sexe. Abat= e pot esar neutral, bekaus it es un parole pro un funktione/profesione. **= ** Pro farar le fraze mor klar it es posibil ripetar le verbe: "Un kate cha= asa un muse, un hunde chasa un kate et un garsono chasa un hunde, un abate = chasa un garsono et Teo chasa un abate. Kordialim Doro --- En posta_Mu= ndi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: Honorinda kol= egaro: Me maxim volunte prizentas a vi omna (en Ido) nia specal frazo #40= , por ke, se omno en ordino, ni povez tradukar ol aden irg altra helpo-ling= ui neutra. Ido: Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero, pueron aba= to ed abaton Deo. 1. Omna bestio, persono e Deo, qui aparas en la frazo= , reprezentesas per neutra vorti, nam ni ne savas lia sexuo. 2. Esus bona= , se helpo-lingui, qui povas markizar l'akuzativo, probus construktar la fr= azo tal qual Ido facas lo hike, to es, per pozar singla vorto akuzativa ava= n singla subjekto, quankam on ya darfas agar anke altra-maniere. 3. Helpo= -lingui, qui agas nur segun la vort-ordiino, probez tradukar la frazo sua-ma= niere! "(Un) kato chasis (un) muso, (un) hundo...", edc. Kad omno klara e= d en ordino? Se yes, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden nia diferanta LIA= -sistemi! Predanko ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani! * * * * * * * * p a = r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10403 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 97685 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2012 12:08:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m14.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Apr 2012 12:08:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng8-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.96) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2012 12:08:00 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.84] by ng8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 12:08:00 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 12:08:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:08:00 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: [MM] Pro quo tante poka mulieri? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=h5XuQyPWVK5jptoTSN1xO-f3NoQSXxSGJREJEJSDW-xT1oOd0_c-MFF8pRie X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Saluto, Doro e altres. Yo no vud konsenti pri li argumente pri manko de li= bera tempe che feminas. Kuankam noi pova konsenti, ke feminas have min libe= ra tempe kam vires, ili tamen have it suficianta por multa altra hobies. Fe= minas exemplim es plu aktiva in religia kam vires e dedika plu multa tempe = por religial vita kam vires. If noi vud kuestiona, pro ko femines es plu re= ligioza e plu frekuente vizita kirke, noi ja no pova apelar, ke isto es pro= ke ili have plu multa libera tempe. Pro ko do ista argumente deve eser val= ida koncernu artificiala linguas? Li konsidero ke min granda aktivitate de= feminas in artificiala linguas es ligata a zorgo pri infantes aspekta kom = plu versimila. Kustumale un infante save su prima vortes de su matre. Femin= in modele de konduto supoza, ke matre deve eser li maxim importanta fonte d= e savo pri lingua por su filies. Pro to lingua de feminas kustumale es plu = pura e regulara, e vires plu inklina uzar jargon e sordida lexika. Feminas = es plu responsiva portantes de su nacionala lingua, pro ke ili es li precip= ua antropes, kel transdona li lingua a sekuenta generacione. Pro to ili es = plu talenta in linguas e plu estima naturala linguas. Artificiala linguas= es plu muskulina okupo kam feminina, noi simple deve prender isto kom real= itate. Kompreneble, isto es yusta nur if dir pri statistika, ma kada konkre= ta antrope have su individuala talentes. Li penses skrita da Doro vere as= pekta kom un artikle. Pro ko kuestionar me pri isto? If, Doro, tu konsenti = pri to, las noi inkluza isto ad in li jurnal, kuale Partaka ofra. De tempe = a tempe antropes kuestiona pri ista tema, pro ko feminas es nemulta in inte= rlinguistika, e noi deve pensar, ke por lektantes de nosi jurnal tala tema = pova eser interesanta. Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Dorot= hea" scriv: > > Kar Partaka! > > Not es mani feminas ak= tiv in le monde del planlingues. To es un fakte. Pero le questione es pro q= uo? Not es facil generalisar isti teme, pero yo prova it biskim (pokim) ora= . > > Generalim feminas hava min liber tempe quam viros. Feminas must fre= quentim laborar mor in heme pro le menaje quam viros. Kustomalim tamben fem= inas must preokupar se multim mor pro le infantes quam le viros. Simplim no= t resta tant mult tempore pro exotik hobies in heme. Tokaus not es inter fe= minas frequentim havar un tempintensiv hobie quam planlingues. Frequentim e= las prefera uzar le liber tempore pro personal kontaktes, inkontrar amikes,= telefonar, lektar od relaxar. In le normal skeme de liber-tempe konduktion= e de feminas un planlingue not fita bunim. > > Pero feminas hava un gran t= alente pro lingues. In le skoles frequentim le juvinas es mor sucesos in le= lingues quam le garsonos. Un juvina komensa kustomalim mor frutemp parolar= quam un garsono. Kustomalim feminas et juvinas es plu komunikativ quam vir= os et garsonos. > > Pero pro komunikatione on bezona partneres et okasione= s. Le komunikativ valore de planlingues not es gran. Simplim not es mani pe= rsones, kon queles on pot parlar. Pro quo aprendar un lingue if on not hava= le chance uzar it? Demor not exista un konkret lande od regione in quel on= pot parlar planlingues. Feminas hava le tendencie uzar lor liber tempe mor= rationalim quam viros. Tokaus aprendar un planlingue sembla a feminas mor = quam un perde de lor ja limitisat tempe. > > Pro feminas tamben important= es le estetikal aspekte de lingues. Segun le feminal estetike mani planlin= gues qualim Esperanto et Volap=FCk simplim es led et kold. Un alter importa= nt aspekte pro feminas okupar se re temes es afektione. On kognoska un pers= one ex un alter lande, havar bel memories a un lande kaus un vakantie od on= ama on libre, autore, musike in un cert lingue et tokaus on vol aprendar i= t. Tamben pro isti aspektes planlingues oferta nur biskim a feminas. > > H= odie le most important loke pro planlingues es le internete. Komunikar kon = persones nur per le internete et not personalim od adminim per telefone not= es atraktiv pro feminas. Faktim nur Esperanto oferta le chance parolar le = lingue in le real monde per frequent personal inkontres. Le tendencie pasar= su limitat libertempe davan le komputere inter feminas not es tant gran qu= am inter viros. Segun statistikes ja inter eleves et studentes le garsonos = pasa mult mor tempe davan le komputere quam juvinas. > > In le internetal = diskusiones re planlingues on trova frequentim quereles et agresiv diskusio= nes inter le membres de internet-listes et forumes. Generalim feminas not a= ma un tal agresiv konduktione et havar angste devenar self un targete de en= i ofendes. In isti regarde feminas es mor sensitiv quam viros et timar tal = negativ publik kritike. Mi prim verim not bun lingual projekte esav kritika= t muy strongim in un "conlang"-forume. Yo sentiav muy ofendat et not volav = me okupar mor re proper planlingual projektes asta yo deskovrav le grupe Po= sta Mundi. Pro isti angste feminas frequentim not skriba multim in le inte= rnet-listes, pero lekta taciturnantim. Demor sinfin teoretik diskusiones re= eni gramatikal detalies kolida kon le feminal preference del pratical uze = de un lingue. > > Demor un aspekte es que le hobie de planlingues not hava= un bun imaje hodie. It es konsiderat frequentim quam un hobie de old viros= et fanatikeres. Kaus le faktal dominantie del anglum feminas not vol sakri= fisar tempe pro un tal ja perdat afere quam planlingues. > > Mi argumentes= baza sur mi proper experientie pero tamben sur komunikationes kon alter fe= minas re le tema planlingues. Naturalmen it es un personal viste de opinion= e. Certim mani arguementes kontre planlingues in isti artikle tamben es val= id pro viros. On certim not pot generalisa everi femina od everi viro. Yo h= a nur provar deskribat som tendencies. > > Kordialim > Doro > > > --- E= n posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi= =F3: > > > > Esas en la mondo plu multa mulieri kam viri, > > tamen, sempre= komentesis, ke esas tre poka > > mulieri, qui agas en nia helpo-lingual mo= ndumo. > > Pro quo? Ka neutra helpo-linguo internaciona > > ne esas same gr= ava ed interesiva por ni omna? > > Yen exemple ke, che posta_Mundi, ni disp= onas > > nur du mulieri inter nia publika membri: Doro e Rosa. > > Do, me m= axim volunte invitas omna mulieri divenar > > aktiva en nia forumo, mem se,= ul-kaze, li ne tote > > dominacas la helpo-linguo per olqua li preferas s= kribar > > (ne-dicinde, to anke validesas por viri. Komprenende). > > Pro q= uo tante poka mulieri? Adavane ni omna ensemble! > > (Partaka) > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10404 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 41428 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2012 13:05:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m15.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Apr 2012 13:05:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng8-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.96) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2012 13:05:16 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.84] by ng8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 13:05:16 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by tg4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 13:05:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:05:15 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik), bazal semane X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=FW6meF4x0sYqruZwgsQbX066bKDGiytrJHsfbCmfXhQZkuyCDhePKadtnL-2 X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 In Japania semane es: Lun di, Fayre di, Akua di, Ligne di, Metal di, Sule = de, Sun di. Li astrologiala korespondo inter elementes e planetes evidente= esev prendet ex Chini astrologia (Mars-fayre, Merkuri-akua, Yupiter-ligne,= Venus-metal, Saturn-sule), in Cinia, tamen, nun li semane es alko kuale: = semanik un, semanik du, semanik tri, semanik kuar, semanik kin, semanik sis= , semanik sep. Li prima es lundi. Pri Japani semane yo hodie lektav in li= libre "Lekta Japani hodie" da Len Walsh, originale skrita in li lingua Ang= li in 1966 o mem plu frue. Li libre eventuale veniv a me sur papere in trad= uko Rusi. Isto es astonanta libre! Mem if vi no es interesata pri ideograme= s e lingua Japani, it tamen deve eser interesanta por interlinguistes. It b= one demonstra kuale per tre nemulta bazal konceptes diversa komplika ideas = pova eser expresat, kuale ideogrames aga. Li libre demonstra, ke ideogrames= es tre simpla. Yo trovav in internet li Rusi traduko in pdf (pro ke li pa= pera libre no es mei), e anke semble yo videv, ke it es inkargebla in Angli= , in altra linguas yo no videv, kuankam yo no serchav diligente. Rosto. = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10405 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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L'areo frontiera= l inter Tunizia e Libia esas importanta loko por la kontrabandisti ed omna= speca komercachi, depos la kolapso dil rejimo di Kadhafi dum agosto 2011. = =C2=A0 NORVEGIA / BREIVIK DEMANDAS LUA ABSOLVO Komencinta dum lundio pasi= nta, la proceso di Anders Behring Breivik, qua agnoskis esar la facero dil = ataki produktinta 77 mortinti dum la 22ma di julio pasinta en Oslo, pludur= is hiere per ilua atesto. Pos explikir ke il agis ye la nomo dil "defenso = di lua populo", il demandis ilua absolvo. Antee, l'akuzo, la defensanti, e= la advokati dil viktimi-familii obtenabis la forsendo di judiciisto agnos= kinta dezirir che la interreto la morto-puniso por la akuzato. =C2=A0 BELA= RUSIA / LA PRECIPUA OPOZANTO A PREZIDANTO LUKASHENKO RAPORTAS PRI LUA INFE= RNO EN KARCERO Indulgita e liberigita pasinta-saturdie, Andrei Sannikov, = precipua adverso dil Statestro, Alexandros Lukashenko, lor la maxim recent= a elekto prezidantal, raportis pri l'inferno travivita dum lua enkarcerigo= -tempo, lor konfero informilal, hiere, een Minsk. Mariajita e patro di fili= ulo, evanta 58 yari, il arestesabis, quale la plu multa kandidati opozanta= por la elekto prezidantal, dum manifesto en la chefurbo di Belarusia dum = la vespero dil elekto havinta loko=C2=A0lor la 19ma di decembro 2010. =C2= =A0 Andrei Sannikov =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-::= : --882403689-1666222398-1334771113=:372922 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Merkurdie, ye la = 18ma di aprilo 2012.
 
Dio di santa Perfektus.
 
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= DIO-PROVERBO / Plu bona esas kelko kam nulo= .
 
<= font color=3D"#ff0000">ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil Arieto guve= rnata dal planeto Marso.
 
VETERO = / Griza e pluvoza cielo, cajorne, en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
 
TUNIZIA / CENT PERSONI RAPTESIS DA LIBIAN= I
Cen= t Tuniziani raptesis dum la pasinta lundio vespere da grupo de Libiani arm= izita en Zawia en la frontierala areo Tuniziana-Libiana sur la choseo junt= anta la posteno de Ras Idir til Tripoli . L'areo frontieral inter Tunizia = e Libia esas importanta loko por la kontrabandisti ed omnaspeca komercachi= , depos la kolapso dil rejimo di Kadhafi dum agosto 2011.
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NORVEGIA / BREIVIK = DEMANDAS LUA ABSOLVO
Komencinta dum lundio pasinta, la proceso di Anders Behri= ng Breivik, qua agnoskis esar la facero dil ataki produktinta 77 mortinti = dum la 22ma di julio pasinta en Oslo, pluduris hiere per ilua atesto. Pos = explikir ke il agis ye la nomo dil "defenso di lua populo", il demandis il= ua absolvo. Antee, l'akuzo, la defensanti, e la advokati dil viktimi-famil= ii obtenabis la forsendo di judiciisto agnoskinta dezirir che la interreto= la morto-puniso por la akuzato.
 
BELARUSIA / LA PRECIPUA OPOZANTO A PREZIDANT= O LUKASHENKO RAPORTAS PRI LUA INFERNO EN KARCERO
Indulgita e liberigita pasint= a-saturdie, Andrei Sannikov, precipua adverso dil Statestro, Alexandros Lu= kashenko, lor la maxim recenta elekto prezidantal, raportis pri l'inferno = travivita dum lua enkarcerigo-tempo, lor konfero informilal, hiere, en Mins= k. Mariajita e patro di filiulo, evanta 58 yari, il arestesabis, quale la = plu multa kandidati opozanta por la elekto prezidantal, dum manifesto en l= a chefurbo di Belarusia dum la vespero dil elekto havinta loko lor la= 19ma di decembro 2010.
 
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Andrei Sannikov
 
Kordiala interretala saluti ad= omni. JM :::-:::
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Ka Di= mitri? Kad Attilio? Kad ulu altra? Yen ke ne nur bone tradukesis la paroli= dil kansono, ma, semblas a me, ke omno mem aranjesis por kantar ol en LdP,= se on deziras lo, ka ne? Nun, nur mankas a ni un plusa versiono de "Quand= o", ma, ca-kaze, direte kantata da Dimitri ipsa per Lingwa de Planeta. Dum= e, gratuli ed adavane, kamaradi! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- E= n posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "ila_mesajero" skribis: = & & & & & & & & & & & & LdP - "Quando" (3' 09'') **** http://w= ww.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dcr_Sx21PXrM & & & & & & & & & & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10407 Return-Path: X-Sender: andoromeda83@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=297638457; y=fBIJQTsFgOX3eEPSLlR8-Uy3oiyP12kUBosIH4O3Qcyy0Vr3z8RS X-Yahoo-Profile: andoromeda83 Kar Asmund, Rosto et Partaka! Gracie pro voster amabil komentes! Yo ha joy= at me kaus les! Yes, naturalim mi lit eseye pot devenar un parte del nov n= umere de Posta Mundi. Yo tamben vud joya me. @Rosto In lor proper percepti= one everi femina pensa que ela labora mor in le menaje quam un viro. To tam= ben not es un relatione kon infantes. Le aktivitate in religione dependa = del lande et tamben del oldese. Yo not pensa que generali, feminas es mor a= ktiv in religiones quam viros. Yo skribat nur re le self-perceptione de ma= ni feminas. Kordialim Doro --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" escribi=F3: > > Saluto, Doro e altres. > > Yo no v= ud konsenti pri li argumente pri manko de libera tempe che feminas. Kuankam= noi pova konsenti, ke feminas have min libera tempe kam vires, ili tamen h= ave it suficianta por multa altra hobies. Feminas exemplim es plu aktiva in= religia kam vires e dedika plu multa tempe por religial vita kam vires. If= noi vud kuestiona, pro ko femines es plu religioza e plu frekuente vizita = kirke, noi ja no pova apelar, ke isto es pro ke ili have plu multa libera t= empe. Pro ko do ista argumente deve eser valida koncernu artificiala lingua= s? > > Li konsidero ke min granda aktivitate de feminas in artificiala lin= guas es ligata a zorgo pri infantes aspekta kom plu versimila. Kustumale un= infante save su prima vortes de su matre. Feminin modele de konduto supoza= , ke matre deve eser li maxim importanta fonte de savo pri lingua por su fi= lies. Pro to lingua de feminas kustumale es plu pura e regulara, e vires pl= u inklina uzar jargon e sordida lexika. Feminas es plu responsiva portantes= de su nacionala lingua, pro ke ili es li precipua antropes, kel transdona = li lingua a sekuenta generacione. Pro to ili es plu talenta in linguas e pl= u estima naturala linguas. > > Artificiala linguas es plu muskulina okupo= kam feminina, noi simple deve prender isto kom realitate. Kompreneble, ist= o es yusta nur if dir pri statistika, ma kada konkreta antrope have su indi= viduala talentes. > > Li penses skrita da Doro vere aspekta kom un artikl= e. Pro ko kuestionar me pri isto? If, Doro, tu konsenti pri to, las noi ink= luza isto ad in li jurnal, kuale Partaka ofra. De tempe a tempe antropes ku= estiona pri ista tema, pro ko feminas es nemulta in interlinguistika, e noi= deve pensar, ke por lektantes de nosi jurnal tala tema pova eser interesan= ta. > > Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10408 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Yen itere nia frazo specal #40, qua tradukesis provizore= aden la 9 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, Novial, Sibelingua, Sambah= sa, ARIEL, LdP, Rapidlingue, Populido. Esperanto: Muson chasis kato, kato= n hundo, hundon infano, infanon abato kaj abaton Dio. Ido: Muson chasis ka= to, katon hundo, hundon puero, pueron abado ed abadon Deo. Novial: Mause k= ate chasad, kate hunde chasad, hunde puere chasad, puere abate chasad, e ab= ate Dee chasad. Sibelingua: Muse esev chasata da kate, kate da hunde, hun= de da puere, puere da abate, e abate da Deo. Sambahsa: Un musem chassit un= catis, un catem un kwaunis, un kwaunem un magvis, un magvem abbatis ed abb= atem Divis. ARIEL: Un cat chasave un mus, un can un cat, un puer un can, u= n abat un puer, e Deo un abat. LdP: Maus gei-te shikari bay kota, kota bay= doga, doga bay kinda, kinda bay abat, e abat bay Boh. Rapidlingue: Un kat= e chasav un muse, un hunde un kate et un garsono un hunde, un abate un gar= sono et Teo un abate. Populido: Kat chasay mus, kan kat, puer kan, abad pu= er, e Deu abad. Se vi povas e deziras lo, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40= aden Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Idiom Neutral, Volap=FCk, Neo, = Glosa, LFN, Mondlango ed irg altra helpo-lingui neutra! (Memorez ke "muso,= kato, hundo, puero, abado e Deo", qui aparas en l'original Ido-frazo, esas= neutra vorti, do nek maskulal nek feminal) Adavane nia frazo #40! * * *= * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10409 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Danke pro tui mesaje, kel pov ese adver util. En Bazal, esere= posibli to ko tu skribe (vicei "di un, di du, di tri di kuar, di kin"), ec= ., per simplei uze, kun "di", plur ek le mil radik, kel le ling abe, do, ap= u "lundi" e "sundi", yen: "mardi" (mar), "terdi" (ter), "homdi" (hom). Tale= i: lundi, mardi, terdi, homdi, ec. Chau, amik! P A R T A K A * * * * * = * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribay: In Japania semane es: Lun di, Fayre di, Akua di, Ligne = di, Metal di, Sule de, Sun di. Li astrologiala korespondo inter elementes= e planetes evidente esev prendet ex Chini astrologia (Mars-fayre, Merkuri-= akua, Yupiter-ligne, Venus-metal, Saturn-sule), in Cinia, tamen, nun li sem= ane es alko kuale: semanik un, semanik du, semanik tri, semanik kuar, sem= anik kin, semanik sis, semanik sep. Li prima es lundi. Pri Japani seman= e yo hodie lektav in li libre "Lekta Japani hodie" da Len Walsh, originale = skrita in li lingua Angli in 1966 o mem plu frue. Li libre eventuale veniv= a me sur papere in traduko Rusi. Isto es astonanta libre! Mem if vi no es = interesata pri ideogrames e lingua Japani, it tamen deve eser interesanta p= or interlinguistes. It bone demonstra kuale per tre nemulta bazal konceptes= diversa komplika ideas pova eser expresat, kuale ideogrames aga. Li libre = demonstra, ke ideogrames es tre simpla. Yo trovav in internet li Rusi tra= duko in pdf (pro ke li papera libre no es mei), e anke semble yo videv, ke = it es inkargebla in Angli, in altra linguas yo no videv, kuankam yo no serc= hav diligente. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10411 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=rxdYSE1nUoSpQ07ve4lF2w5hNQR85d3q26EyEDKC_H0n2xjtfgndh5dILN1r X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Yo have un idea kuale uzar li funkcione inkluzar video de Youtube a paginas= de wiki. Che posta_Mundi kansones in nacionala lingua es permisata, e kust= umale li nome de un kansone es donata in li nacionala lingua, kuala it es, = semble es tale. Exemplim, por me no es apta li variante, if meter un tradu= ko in Sibelingua ad in video, interne fixata, pro ke Sibelingua no have tre= certa, afirmata por sempre, gramatika o lexika, it es plantata e kultivata= lingua, diversa variantes e chanjes es posibla. Por me es plu apta alko ku= ale isto: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD= %D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%86 Tale es posibla ad= juntar a un kansone variantes in diversa linguas o diversa versiones in un = lingua. Eske isto koresponda regules de posta_Mundi? Rosto. 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Yen: sundi - di-mo;= lundi - di-bi; mardi - di-tri; merkurdi - di-tetra; jovdi - di-penta; vene= rdi - di-sixa; saturdi (shabat) - di-seti! Yo tale suspekta, ke tei "mardi= ", "terdi", "homdi" es un moko, ma yo pensa, ke noi deve respektar antikua = simboles, nam per diversa "novo-ling" nulkande on pova konvencionar. Rost= o. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" scriv: > > Hau, Rosto! > > Danke pro tui mesaje, kel pov ese adver ut= il. > > En Bazal, esere posibli to ko tu skribe > (vicei "di un, di du, di= tri di kuar, di kin"), ec., > per simplei uze, kun "di", plur ek le mil ra= dik, > kel le ling abe, do, apu "lundi" e "sundi", yen: > "mardi" (mar), "t= erdi" (ter), "homdi" (hom). > Talei: lundi, mardi, terdi, homdi, ec. > > C= hau, amik! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10414 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=iEVN4OWVx5YPcJxqDU2WEs4IZMyZY2pBg3kAmCPUkGDGMjAudAwtiQA X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Meajudike, to esas ya bona e tote posibla ideo; tamen, adminime a me, nule = jenus la texto dil kansono skribita sur la video-filmeto ipsa, se per neutr= a helpo-linguo, mem se, plu tarde, kelka paroli esus chanjita. To permisus = spektar texto e filmeto sam-tempe, e mem kantar dume. Ma, me certe konkord= as kun tu, ke tradukuro del texto esez anke adjuntita (quale facis tu ipsa)= por plusa fidindeso, e por ke olca povez tradukesar aden plusa LIA-sistem= i, se on deziros lo. Ni probez, ka ne? Adavane! P A R T A K A * * * * * = * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribis: Yo have un idea kuale uzar li funkcione inkluzar video de Y= outube a paginas de wiki. Che posta_Mundi kansones in nacionala lingua es p= ermisata, e kustumale li nome de un kansone es donata in li nacionala lingu= a, kuala it es, semble es tale. Exemplim, por me no es apta li variante, = if meter un traduko in Sibelingua ad in video, interne fixata, pro ke Sibel= ingua no have tre certa, afirmata por sempre, gramatika o lexika, it es pla= ntata e kultivata lingua, diversa variantes e chanjes es posibla. Por me es= plu apta alko kuale isto: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0= %D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%86 = Tale es posibla adjuntar a un kansone variantes in diversa linguas o diver= sa versiones in un lingua. Eske isto koresponda regules de posta_Mundi? = Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10415 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... 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I.e. Die del Sol, die del Luna, die de Ty, die de Odin, di= e de Thor, die de Freya, die del Legeferie (Lawgiver). Asi du diei pro corp= ori zelestial e cuin diei pro varie deitati pagan. In anglese isti son Sund= ay,Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Asi le mesme tem= a, ma le "Legeferie" es latinifazite a in Saturn. Osmund Aukland Den 18. = apr. 2012 kl. 15:05 skrev "Rosto" : > In Ja= pania semane es: > > Lun di, Fayre di, Akua di, Ligne di, Metal di, Sule d= e, Sun di. > > Li astrologiala korespondo inter elementes e planetes evide= nte esev prendet ex Chini astrologia (Mars-fayre, Merkuri-akua, Yupiter-lig= ne, Venus-metal, Saturn-sule), in Cinia, tamen, nun li semane es alko kuale= : > > semanik un, semanik du, semanik tri, semanik kuar, semanik kin, sema= nik sis, semanik sep. > > Li prima es lundi. > > Pri Japani semane yo hod= ie lektav in li libre "Lekta Japani hodie" da Len Walsh, originale skrita i= n li lingua Angli in 1966 o mem plu frue. > Li libre eventuale veniv a me s= ur papere in traduko Rusi. Isto es astonanta libre! Mem if vi no es interes= ata pri ideogrames e lingua Japani, it tamen deve eser interesanta por inte= rlinguistes. It bone demonstra kuale per tre nemulta bazal konceptes divers= a komplika ideas pova eser expresat, kuale ideogrames aga. Li libre demonst= ra, ke ideogrames es tre simpla. > Yo trovav in internet li Rusi traduko i= n pdf (pro ke li papera libre no es mei), e anke semble yo videv, ke it es = inkargebla in Angli, in altra linguas yo no videv, kuankam yo no serchav di= ligente. > > Rosto. > > --Apple-Mail-9-69337155 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
In Norvegia le diei son S=C3=B8ndag, m= andag, tirsdag, onsdag, torsdag, fredag, l=C3=B8rdag. I.e. Die del Sol, die= del Luna, die de Ty, die de Odin, die de Thor, die de Freya, die del Legef= erie (Lawgiver). Asi du diei pro corpori zelestial e cuin diei pro varie de= itati pagan. In anglese isti son Sunday,Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursda= y, Friday, Saturday. Asi le mesme tema, ma le "Legeferie" es latinifazite a= in Saturn.

Osmund Aukland

Den 18. apr. 2012 kl. 15:05= skrev "Rosto" <rostisl= av-levchenko@...>:

 

In Japania semane es:

Lun d= i, Fayre di, Akua di, Ligne di, Metal di, Sule de, Sun di.

Li astr= ologiala korespondo inter elementes e planetes evidente esev prendet ex Chi= ni astrologia (Mars-fayre, Merkuri-akua, Yupiter-ligne, Venus-metal, Saturn= -sule), in Cinia, tamen, nun li semane ees alko kuale:

semanik un, = semanik du, semanik tri, semanik kuar, semanik kin, semanik sis, semanik se= p.

Li prima es lundi.

Pri Japani semane yo hodie lektav i= n li libre "Lekta Japani hodie" da Len Walsh, originale skrita in li lingua= Angli in 1966 o mem plu frue.
Li libre eventuale veniv a me sur papere= in traduko Rusi. Isto es astonanta libre! Mem if vi no es interesata pri i= deogrames e lingua Japani, it tamen deve eser interesanta por interlinguist= es. It bone demonstra kuale per tre nemulta bazal konceptes diversa komplik= a ideas pova eser expresat, kuale ideogrames aga. Li libre demonstra, ke id= eogrames es tre simpla.
Yo trovav in internet li Rusi traduko in pdf (= pro ke li papera libre no es mei), e anke semble yo videv, ke it es inkarge= bla in Angli, in altra linguas yo no videv, kuankam yo no serchav diligente= .

Rosto.

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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 92561 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2012 07:49:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m13.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2012 07:49:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng10-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.122) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2012 07:49:14 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.88] by ng10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 07:49:14 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by tg8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 07:49:14 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:49:13 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <84ED7A0D-735E-491E-A366-357BF1CB8A99@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik), bazal semane X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=ax_09J2AZqp615pK791mfHIx7k5ugHI59v0FOaS7xdv1CdlNZZb-XkEl_EiA X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Kara Osmund, es bona, ke tu rememorav ta dees de Norvegia, kel es komun Ger= manik e Skandinavik. Isto demonstra, ke arkaik simboles frekuente es plu in= ternacionala kam fonetik sono de vortes. Regretinde, noi tro poke studia ar= kaik simboles, kuankam ili deve eser tre importanta por interlinguistika. E= s jenerale agnoskat, ke Germanik-Skandinavik dees, per keles dies de semane= es nominata, plu-min koresponda li Romanik dees. Ty, o Tiv es deo de mili= te, kombatanto kuale Mars; Odin o Vodan es regardata kom analoge de Merkuri= , pri ko on kelke dubita, nam Odin es li chef-deo, ma forsan isto signifika= , ke popules Germani es guvernata per Merkuri, dum ke Romanes per Yupiter (= isto es nur mei supozo, yo verim no save astrologia) Thor o Tunor es regard= at kom analoge de Yupiter: Thor anke es deo de tondre e fulmine. Freya es V= enus If lektar wikipedias, on saveska multa interesanta. Yo exemplim no sa= vev, kuale dies de semane es nominat in Portugali: Sundie, die de Domino, = - Domingo Lundie - "Segunda-feira" Mardie - "Ter=E7a-feira" Merkurdie - "Qu= arta-feira" Jovdie - "Quinta-feira" Venerdie - "Sexta-feira" Saturdi, sabat= - "S=E1bado" Kuale tu, Partaka, intente agar kun tei Bazal "di un"=3Dlund= i, "di du"=3Dmardi etc. in Portagalia o Brazilia? In arkaik Portugali isto= anke esev dees-planetes, ma alkande semble in XV sekul li reforme eveniv. = Anke ibe, in Portugali wikipedia, pri semane, yo videv anke li chini eleme= ntes por dies de semane: lune, fayre, akua, ligne, metal, tera (sule), sune= . Ya, isto es konosata, e nula "mar" o "hom" ibe. In Chinia li historia es= kuale in Portugalia. Nun dies de semane es simple numerata, li unesma es l= undie, tamen. Ma li reforma esev pos estebliso de Chini Respublika in 1911.= In plu anciena tempes isto anke esev planetes, ya li sama planetes. Anke = in Hindi e parenta linguas dies de semane es nominat per li sama planetes, = nur nominata in Hindi. In omna Slavik linguas dies de semane es numerata. = Li nomes por dies de semane es preske identa in omna Slavik linguas e no es= ev chanjat desde arkaik tempes. li prima es lundie, kuankam it no es nomin= at kom prima, ma kom "ponedilok" o "ponedelnik", ko signifika "die pos ne-l= aboro". Vere numerata es nur mardie, jovdie e venerdie. Nomo por merkurdie = es un enigmate por omnes, nam it es nominata kom "sreda", ko signifika "mez= a". Pro ko triesma die es "meza", no kuaresma? Ya, un enigmate. Sabat es "s= ubota" o "sobota". Tale, li numeracia Partaki esera normala por Slaves e Ch= inianes, ma no apta por Portugal-linguanes. Planetes rega! Rosto. --- I= n posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Osmund Aukland scriv: > > In N= orvegia le diei son S=F8ndag, mandag, tirsdag, onsdag, torsdag, fredag, l= =F8rdag. I.e. Die del Sol, die del Luna, die de Ty, die de Odin, die de Tho= r, die de Freya, die del Legeferie (Lawgiver). Asi du diei pro corpori zele= stial e cuin diei pro varie deitati pagan. In anglese isti son Sunday,Monda= y, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Asi le mesme tema, ma le= "Legeferie" es latinifazite a in Saturn. > > Osmund Aukland > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10418 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... 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Multe grazii pro tu interesante response. Si, il ha un paralelit= ate intra le nomini nordic/germanic/ saxon e le nomini roman/grec del diei = e deitati del septimane. Tu menzione le similitate e le diferenzie Odin ver= so Mercur. Odin non ha ule coneczion mercantil.Thor era originalmente le pr= ime del =C3=86sir (deitati) e su die "Thors-dag" era le die plus sancte. Il= es posible ce le =C3=86sir son arivate hic al Nord ex Kaukasus et era hebr= ei in lingue e cultur previemente. In tal case Odin pote eser le titule Adi= n (senior). Le alfabet proto hebraic habeva su litere Ayin como nostre O, i= .e. un zircule. E Thor pote eser le Torah-deitate. In iste maniere lor reli= gion pote eser un mixtur del grec/romanic e del hebree. Ance lor calender e= ra un del 364 diei, 13 mensi con 4 septimani in cate mense. Io crede ce lor= prime septimane del ano era le un ce containava le ecuinox vernal, o forsa= n le solstizie hibernal. Le scripturi de Snorre Sturlason, "Heimskiringla" = et "Edda" describe como iste deitati era originalmente humani normali, ma r= egini e reginai intra du populi diferenti, viz le =C3=86sir e le Vanir. For= san es iste historie ultra le thema discutate hic, et in tal case pardona m= e per favor. E finalmente: Multe grazii pro admiter me in vostre discusion= interesante. Osmund Den 20. apr. 2012 kl. 09:49 skrev "Rosto" : > Kara Osmund, es bona, ke tu rememorav ta dees de = Norvegia, kel es komun Germanik e Skandinavik. Isto demonstra, ke arkaik si= mboles frekuente es plu internacionala kam fonetik sono de vortes. Regretin= de, noi tro poke studia arkaik simboles, kuankam ili deve eser tre importan= ta por interlinguistika. Es jenerale agnoskat, ke Germanik-Skandinavik dees= , per keles dies de semane es nominata, plu-min koresponda li Romanik dees.= > > Ty, o Tiv es deo de milite, kombatanto kuale Mars; > Odin o Vodan es = regardata kom analoge de Merkuri, pri ko on kelke dubita, nam Odin es li ch= ef-deo, ma forsan isto signifika, ke popules Germani es guvernata per Merku= ri, dum ke Romanes per Yupiter (isto es nur mei supozo, yo verim no save as= trologia) > Thor o Tunor es regardat kom analoge de Yupiter: Thor anke es d= eo de tondre e fulmine. > Freya es Venus > > If lektar wikipedias, on save= ska multa interesanta. Yo exemplim no savev, kuale dies de semane es nomina= t in Portugali: > > Sundie, die de Domino, - Domingo > Lundie - "Segunda-f= eira" > Mardie - "Ter=C3=A7a-feira" > Merkurdie - "Quarta-feira" > Jovdie -= "Quinta-feira" > Venerdie - "Sexta-feira" > Saturdi, sabat - "S=C3=A1bado"= > > Kuale tu, Partaka, intente agar kun tei Bazal "di un"=3Dlundi, "di du= "=3Dmardi etc. in Portagalia o Brazilia? > > In arkaik Portugali isto anke= esev dees-planetes, ma alkande semble in XV sekul li reforme eveniv. > > = Anke ibe, in Portugali wikipedia, pri semane, yo videv anke li chini elemen= tes por dies de semane: lune, fayre, akua, ligne, metal, tera (sule), sune.= Ya, isto es konosata, e nula "mar" o "hom" ibe. > > In Chinia li historia= es kuale in Portugalia. Nun dies de semane es simple numerata, li unesma e= s lundie, tamen. Ma li reforma esev pos estebliso de Chini Respublika in 19= 11. In plu anciena tempes isto anke esev planetes, ya li sama planetes. > = > Anke in Hindi e parenta linguas dies de semane es nominat per li sama pla= netes, nur nominata in Hindi. > > In omna Slavik linguas dies de semane es= numerata. Li nomes por dies de semane es preske identa in omna Slavik ling= uas e no esev chanjat desde arkaik tempes. li prima es lundie, kuankam it n= o es nominat kom prima, ma kom "ponedilok" o "ponedelnik", ko signifika "di= e pos ne-laboro". Vere numerata es nur mardie, jovdie e venerdie. Nomo por = merkurdie es un enigmate por omnes, nam it es nominata kom "sreda", ko sign= ifika "meza". Pro ko triesma die es "meza", no kuaresma? Ya, un enigmate. S= abat es "subota" o "sobota". > Tale, li numeracia Partaki esera normala por= Slaves e Chinianes, ma no apta por Portugal-linguanes. > Planetes rega! > = > Rosto. > > --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Osmund Aukland scriv: > > > > In Norvegia le diei son S=C3=B8ndag, mandag, tirsdag, o= nsdag, torsdag, fredag, l=C3=B8rdag. I.e. Die del Sol, die del Luna, die de= Ty, die de Odin, die de Thor, die de Freya, die del Legeferie (Lawgiver). = Asi du diei pro corpori zelestial e cuin diei pro varie deitati pagan. In a= nglese isti son Sunday,Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturd= ay. Asi le mesme tema, ma le "Legeferie" es latinifazite a in Saturn. > > = > > Osmund Aukland > > > > --Apple-Mail-13-125547830 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Car Rosto!
Multe grazii pro = tu interesante response. Si, il ha un paralelitate intra le nomini nordic/g= ermanic/ saxon e le nomini roman/grec del diei e deitati del septimane. Tu = menzione le similitate e le diferenzie Odin verso Mercur. Odin non ha ule c= oneczion mercantil.Thor era originalmente le prime del =C3=86sir (deitati) = e su die "Thors-dag" era le die plus sancte. Il es posible ce le =C3=86sir = son arivate hic al Nord ex Kaukasus et era hebrei in lingue e cultur previe= mente. In tal case Odin pote eser le titule Adin (senior). Le alfabet proto= hebraic habeva su litere Ayin como nostre O, i.e. un zircule. E Thor pote = eser le Torah-deitate. In iste maniere lor religion pote eser un mixtur del= grec/romanic e del hebree.
Ance lor calender era un del 364 diei= , 13 mensi con 4 septimani in cate mense. Io crede ce lor prime septimane d= el ano era le un ce containava le ecuinox vernal, o forsan le solstizie hib= ernal. Le scripturi de Snorre Sturlason, "Heimskiringla" et "Edda" describe= como iste deitati era originalmente humani normali, ma regini e reginai in= tra du populi diferenti, viz le =C3=86sir e le Vanir.
Forsan es i= ste historie ultra le thema discutate hic, et in tal case pardona me per fa= vor. 
E finalmente: Multe grazii pro admiter me in vostre di= scusion interesante.

Osmund

Den 20. apr. 2012 kl. 09:4= 9 skrev "Rosto" <rostis= lav-levchenko@...>:

 

Kara Osmund, es bona, ke tu rememo= rav ta dees de Norvegia, kel es komun Germanik e Skandinavik. Isto demonstr= a, ke arkaik simboles frekuente es plu internacionala kam fonetik sono de v= ortes. Regretinde, noi tro poke studia arkaik simboles, kuankam ili deve es= er tre importanta por interlinguistika. Es jenerale agnoskat, ke Germanik-S= kandinavik dees, per keles dies de semane es nominata, plu-min koresponda l= i Romanik dees.

Ty, o Tiv es deo de milite, kombatanto kuale Mars;=
Odin o Vodan es regardata kom analoge de Merkuri, pri ko on kelke dubi= ta, nam Odin es li chef-deo, ma forsan isto signifika, ke popules Germani e= s guvernata per Merkuri, dum ke Romanes per Yupiter (isto es nur mei supozo= , yo verim no save astrologia)
Thor o Tunor es regardat kom analoge de = Yupiter: Thor anke es deo de tondre e fulmine.
Freya es Venus

= If lektar wikipedias, on saveska multa interesanta. Yo exemplim no savev, k= uale dies de semane es nominat in Portugali:

Sundie, die de Domino= , - Domingo
Lundie - "Segunda-feira"
Mardie - "Ter=C3=A7a-feira" Merkurdie - "Quarta-feira"
Jovdie - "Quinta-feira"
Venerdie - "Se= xta-feira"
Saturdi, sabat - "S=C3=A1bado"

Kuale tu, Partaka, i= ntente agar kun tei Bazal "di un"=3Dlundi, "di du"=3Dmardi etc. in Portagal= ia o Brazilia?

In arkaik Portugali isto anke esev dees-planetes, m= a alkande semble in XV sekul li reforme eveniv.

Anke ibe, in Portu= gali wikipedia, pri semane, yo videv anke li chini elementes por dies de se= mane: lune, fayre, akua, ligne, metal, tera (sule), sune. Ya, isto es konos= ata, e nula "mar" o "hom" ibe.

In Chinia li historia es kuale in P= ortugalia. Nun dies de semane es simple numerata, li unesma es lundie, tame= n. Ma li reforma esev pos estebliso de Chini Respublika in 1911. In plu anc= iena tempes isto anke esev planetes, ya li sama planetes.

Anke in = Hindi e parenta linguas dies de semane es nominat per li sama planetes, nur= nominata in Hindi.

In omna Slavik linguas dies de semane es numer= ata. Li nomes por dies de semane es preske identa in omna Slavik linguas e = no esev chanjat desde arkaik tempes. li prima es lundie, kuankam it no es = nominat kom prima, ma kom "ponedilok" o "ponedelnik", ko signifika "die pos= ne-laboro". Vere numerata es nur mardie, jovdie e venerdie. Nomo por merku= rdie es un enigmate por omnes, nam it es nominata kom "sreda", ko signifika= "meza". Pro ko triesma die es "meza", no kuaresma? Ya, un enigmate. Sabat = es "subota" o "sobota".
Tale, li numeracia Partaki esera normala por Sl= aves e Chinianes, ma no apta por Portugal-linguanes.
Planetes rega!
=
Rosto.

--- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.c= om, Osmund Aukland scriv:
>
> In = Norvegia le diei son S=C3=B8ndag, mandag, tirsdag, onsdag, torsdag, fredag,= l=C3=B8rdag. I.e. Die del Sol, die del Luna, die de Ty, die de Odin, die d= e Thor, die de Freya, die del Legeferie (Lawgiver). Asi du diei pro corpori= zelestial e cuin diei pro varie deitati pagan. In anglese isti son Sunday,= Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Asi le mesme tema, = ma le "Legeferie" es latinifazite a in Saturn.
>
> Osmund Au= kland
>

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Kad ulu altra? > > Yen ke ne nur bone tradukesis la paro= li dil kansono, > ma, semblas a me, ke omno mem aranjesis por kantar ol > e= n LdP, se on deziras lo, ka ne? > > Nun, nur mankas a ni un plusa versiono= de "Quando", > ma, ca-kaze, direte kantata da Dimitri ipsa per Lingwa de P= laneta. > > Dume, gratuli ed adavane, kamaradi! > > > P A R T A K A > * = * * * * * * * * > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "ila_mesaje= ro" skribis: > > & & & & & & & & & & & & > > > > Ld= P - > > "Quando" (3' 09'') **** > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc= r_Sx21PXrM > > > > & & & & & & & & & & & & > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10420 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19929 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2012 12:21:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m14.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2012 12:21:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng4-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.135) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2012 12:21:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1334924486; bh=tmXGCvOyeVpkNxZatqNt2eEV+ogAmCzeDutlvlmFKAY=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=lh+tbd8jGnsbwe0+pz2eCPQtPc0LGcYd1H/060a4VwHFUeonN7vVohQoLkL4PEe7PRNH8ayZ36zdxiIi4geBWpWcmwquhA3dZ1bOMWB7AU0YlPEEtN+/RiDpAtbPkkrd Received: from [98.138.217.179] by ng4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 12:21:26 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.73] by tg4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 12:21:26 -0000 X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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Me probi tradukt= i bat bu mog. "Li kantu!" bu es hao tradukta. "Estu li kiu kantu!" es stran= ish. Dimitri --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lingwadeplaneta" escribi=F3: > > Janni Morandi es zuy hao ganer, hay ta hi= gani :) > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > > > Kara LdP-ani: > > > > Qua de vi tradukis = ica kansono de l'Italiana aden LdP? > > Ka Dimitri? Kad Attilio? 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On povas dicar ke lo esas "efektigita misiono= " , nam per pafar, hiere, lua unesma misilo havanta longadista atingo-povo= e=C2=A0kapableso nukleal, India=C2=A0jus rajuntis la mikrega klubo di la = landi posedanta ita teknologio,=C2=A0a qua apartenas Francia, Usa, Britani= a, Rusia e Chinia. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 La rocketo* (fuzeo) Agni pafesis hiere = =C2=A0 TUNIZIA / LA JUDICIISTI DEBATAS PRI LA FILMO PERSEPOLIS La libereso= expresar su esas la temo dil proceso pri blasfemo qua vizas la difuzanto = di ca verko premiizita en Cannes. Ita proceso eventas pro ke la direktisto= dil televizional kanalo Nessma TV akuzesas atakir "la valori etikal di lo= sakra per difuzar la filmo PERSEPOLIS, ube Deo reprezentesas kom oldulo h= avanta blanka barbo". Ita proceso pluakrigas la lukto por dominaco inter l= a islamisti e la defenseri por la libereso expresar su. =C2=A0 Policani e = manifestanti en la proximajo dil judicieyo di Tunis =C2=A0 GERMANIA / ICA = LANDO MOBILIZESAS KONTRE LA ISLAMISTI FUNDAMENTALISTA La amasala e gratuit= a disdono de Korani da extremisti Salafista impresas e shokas Germania. La= kombato kontre l'extremismo religial impozesis kom temo precipua dil Konf= ero Germana pri Islamo (DIK) pos l'eciteso produktita recente per la disdo= ni amasal e gratuita en la Germana urbegi, segun inicio da Salafista organ= izuro. La ministro Germana por Interna Aferi, HANS-PETER FRIEDRICH, substr= ekizis ke : "La religio ne darfas deviacesar por skopi ideologial o por fo= rteso-demonstro vizante impozar vidpunto politikal". =C2=A0 Disdono de Kor= ani en Berlin =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-::: =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---361423941-846815575-1334926244=:383044 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Jean Martign= on, che plura Ido-forumi) 
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Venerdie, ye = la 20ma di aprilo 2012.
 
Dio di santa Odeta.
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / Singla moneto-peco havas du flank= i.
 
= ZODIAKO / Iro en la zodiako-signo = dil Tauro guvernata dal planeto Venero.
 
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VETERO / Alternante pluvoza e sunoza vetero, c= ajorne, en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
 
INDIA / ICA LANDO PAFAS MISILO* BALISTIKAL HAVA= NTA LONGADISTA ATINGO-POVO
La rocketo* (o fuzeo) Agni V, havanta atingo-povo ye= disto de 5.000 kilometri, esas apta atingor grand urbi Chiniana tala Shan= gai o Beijing (Pekino). On povas dicar ke lo esas "efektigita misiono" , n= am per pafar, hiere, lua unesma misilo havanta longadista atingo-povo e&nb= sp;kapableso nukleal, India jus rajuntis la mikrega klubo di la landi= posedanta ita teknologio, a qua apartenas Francia, Usa, Britania, Ru= sia e Chinia.
 
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La rocketo* (fuzeo) Agni pafesis= hiere
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TUNIZIA / LA JUDICIISTI DEBATAS PRI LA FILMO PERSEPOLIS
La libereso expresa= r su esas la temo dil proceso pri blasfemo qua vizas la difuzanto di ca ve= rko premiizita en Cannes. Ita proceso eventas pro ke la direktisto dil tel= evizional kanalo Nessma TV akuzesas atakir "la valori etikal di lo sakra p= er difuzar la filmo PERSEPOLIS, ube Deo reprezentesas kom oldulo havanta b= lanka barbo". Ita proceso pluakrigas la lukto por dominaco inter la islami= sti e la defenseri por la libereso expresar su.
 
3D"Poli=
Policani e manife= stanti en la proximajo dil judicieyo di Tunis
 
GERMANIA / ICA LANDO MOBILIZES= AS KONTRE LA ISLAMISTI FUNDAMENTALISTA
La amasala e gratuita disdono de Korani = da extremisti Salafista impresas e shokas Germania. La kombato kontre l'ex= tremismo religial impozesis kom temo precipua dil Konfero Germana pri Isla= mo (DIK) pos l'eciteso produktita recente per la disdoni amasal e gratuita = en la Germana urbegi, segun inicio da Salafista organizuro. La ministro Ge= rmana por Interna Aferi, HANS-PETER FRIEDRICH, substrekizis ke : "La relig= io ne darfas deviacesar por skopi ideologial o por forteso-demonstro vizan= te impozar vidpunto politikal".
 
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Disdono de Korani en Berlin<= /b>
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Kor= diala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::
 
 
 
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---361423941-846815575-1334926244=:383044-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10422 Return-Path: X-Sender: attilio.liotto@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94051 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2012 12:59:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2012 12:59:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-yw0-f45.google.com) (209.85.213.45) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2012 12:59:37 -0000 X-Received: by yhoo21 with SMTP id o21so6394935yho.18 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 05:59:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.182.133 with SMTP id ee5mr5928809igc.63.1334926777344; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 05:59:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.231.16.71 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 05:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:59:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340adb5d60c604be1bdc81 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Attilio Liotto Subject: RE: [MUZIKO] LdP - "Quando" **** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=298912666; y=K5lvx_GJ4sFI9FCX0CwuxnutR7PXKWl8jFwI7U_sh9MpUGNNPD3sSMI X-Yahoo-Profile: attilio.liotto --14dae9340adb5d60c604be1bdc81 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable . =E2=80=9CQuando=E2=80=9D en lidepla estas traduko de Dimitri. =C4=9Ci e= stas estas tre bona traduko ne nur la=C5=ADsignife sed anka=C5=AD kaj preci= pe la=C5=ADmetrike, =C4=9Di estas tute ta=C5=ADga por esti kantata. Fakte = Dimitri tradukis itala kanzono al lidepla kanzono. . =E2=80=9CQuando=E2= =80=9D pa lidepla es tradukta bay Dimitri. Is es gro hao tradukta bu sol s= egun signifa bat toshi e un-nem segun metrika, it es ga godi-she fo gei gan= i. Faktem Dimitri tradukti italian-ney gana unu lidepla-ney gana. --14dae9340adb5d60c604be1bdc81 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=E2=80=9CQuando=E2=80=9D en lidepla estas traduko de Dimitri.

= =C4=9Ci estas estas tre bona traduko ne nur la=C5=ADsignife sed anka=C5=AD = kaj precipe la=C5=ADmetrike, =C4=9Di estas tute ta=C5=ADga por esti kantata= .

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=E2=80=9CQuando=E2=80=9D pa lidepla es tradukta bay Dimitri.

Is es gro hao tradukta bu sol segun signifa bat toshi e un-nem segu= n metrika, it es ga godi-she fo gei gani.

Faktem Dimitri tradukti italian-ney gana unu li= depla-ney gana. --14dae9340adb5d60c604be1bdc81-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10423 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Me ya lernabay, ke existe no nur helpe-lings, ma ankei natu= ral lings, kel age kualei Glosa, Frater (nosi kar Igor, recentei, skribay p= ri olci), e le ling de Portugal, ultrei olti's en olkel "sundi" esay konsid= erat kom le di un, e "lundi" kom le di du, mem se ols abe nom, e no numer. = Nos ja savay pri. Ma ank existe altri helpe-lings e natural lings, kel age = per altri manier: "sundi" es le di sep ed ultim, dum ke "lundi" es le di un= per olkel komense seman. Do, oporte respekte le konkret manier de singli l= ing, olti eseu den Glosa, Frater, Bazal, Portugal od irg altri. Me deve an= kor foy repete, ke Populido es plen helpe-ling, dum ke Bazal eseray tre baz= al helpe-ling, kel aberay nur mil radik, e per olkel eseray no-posibli dice= irgi koz, nam olui skop es posiblige nur bazal interkomunike. E me deve a= nkei repete, ke Bazal eseray ul koz plus kam plen Populido kurtigat til no= plu kam mil radik. E yen mem un plus repete: Bazal no ja deciday le noms = del seman-die's, olkels povere divene "di un, di du", ec., o "di A, di B", = ec., o "di do, di re, di mi, di fa, di sol, di la, di si", mem se, faktei,= to no solvere le problem, nam on konsiderere "di un", "di A" e "di do" kom= "sundi" o kom "lundi". Nos ja dicay, ke tal bazal helpe-ling pove abe le = noms "sundi" e "lundi" (pro "sun" e "lun"), ma no pove konten omni planet-n= oms (eceptei "ter"), do Bazal povere uze noms, kel es adver important por n= os omni, e kel aparten a le ling: sun, lun, mar (akua, vive), ter (le sul e= nosi planet), hom (nos omni, homs), ec. On devere nur lerne ko es ko, sam = kam on deve lerne novi koze's, kuan on konose novi ling. Irgi-kazei, me ja = skribay, ke nul koz es ankor decidat pri ci tem. E no: klar es ke me no mo= kay e mem ankei no jokay, kuan me probay por Bazal "lundi, mardi, terdi, ho= mdi", ec. Me time ke bazal helpe-ling pove abe nur plur propri noms. Nul p= roblem, Rostu! Nul ver problem! Chau, amik! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * *= * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" = skribay: Eske tu, kara Paktaka, save, kuala es semane in Glosa? Yen: su= ndi - di-mo; lundi - di-bi; mardi - di-tri; merkurdi - di-tetra; jovdi - di= -penta; venerdi - di-sixa; saturdi (shabat) - di-seti! Yo tale suspekta, = ke tei "mardi", "terdi", "homdi" es un moko, ma yo pensa, ke noi deve respe= ktar antikua simboles, nam per diversa "novo-ling" nulkande on pova konvenc= ionar. Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas= " scriv: Hau, Rosto! Danke pro tui mesaje, kel pov ese= adver util. En Bazal, esere posibli to ko tu skribe vicei "di un, di du,= di tri di kuar, di kin"), ec., per simplei uze, kun "di", plur ek le mil r= adik, kel le ling abe, do, apu "lundi" e "sundi", yen: "mardi" (mar), "terd= i" (ter), "homdi" (hom). Talei: lundi, mardi, terdi, homdi, ec. Chau, ami= k! 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(Gianni Morandi [e ne me] esez ta qua kantez!) En Esperanto= klasika, forsan, la frazo esus yene: "Li estu tiu, kiu kantu!" Omna-kaze= , anke tu esas bona kantero e kompozero. Gratuli pro tua tradukuro de "Qua= ndo" aden LdP, Dimu! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * ---= En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lingwadeplaneta" s= kribis: Apropoo, komo shwo pa Ido o Esperanto "Hay ta hi gani!" -? Me prob= i tradukti bat bu mog. "Li kantu!" bu es hao tradukta. "Estu li kiu kantu!"= es stranish. Dimitri --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lingwad= eplaneta" escribi=F3: Janni Morandi es zuy hao ganer, h= ay ta hi gani :) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" = escribi=F3: Kara LdP-ani: Qua de vi tradukis ica kanso= no de l'Italiana aden LdP? Ka Dimitri? Kad Attilio? Kad ulu altra? Yen ke= ne nur bone tradukesis la paroli dil kansono, ma, semblas a me, ke omno me= m aranjesis por kantar ol en LdP, se on deziras lo, ka ne? Nun, nur manka= s a ni un plusa versiono de "Quando", ma, ca-kaze, direte kantata da Dimitr= i ipsa per Lingwa de Planeta. Dume, gratuli ed adavane, kamaradi! P A= R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "ila= _mesajero" skribis: & & & & & & & & & & & & LdP= - "Quando" (3' 09'') **** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dcr_Sx21P= XrM & & & & & & & & & & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10425 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Segun legendo, Roma fondesis da jemeli Romulus e Remus. Li esis fil= iuli di Rhea Silvia; el=C2=A0esis filiino di Numitor,=C2=A0rejulo di Alba L= onga, olqua esis civito 19 km sud-este de Roma. (La fondero di Alba Longa y= e 1179 A.K., Ascianus, esis filiulo di Aeneas, la Troyana heroo qua eskapis= de la siejo di=C2=A0Troy.) Rhea Silvia esabis violacata da la deo Marso,= =C2=A0e tale=C2=A0Romulus e Remus=C2=A0esis mi-deala. Numitor, timante ke l= i prenus la trono di Alba Longa,=C2=A0imperis ke li esez dronata; li salves= is da volfino, qua flegis li. Kande la=C2=A0muri di la projetata urbo esis = konstruktita, Remus kritikis olia mikreso; pro to,=C2=A0Romulus ocidis Remu= s. Il nomizis la urbo Roma pro sua nomo, ed il esis olua unesma rejo. =C2= =A0 1836. La batalio di San Jacinto, en Texas, eventis;=C2=A0Texas,=C2=A0an= tee parto di Mexikia,=C2=A0pose divenis su-guvernanta. En la batalio=C2=A0l= a Texiana armeo di Generalo Sam Houston, qua inkluzis multa voluntanti de U= SA, vinkis la Mexikiana armeo di Generalo Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna. La b= atalio duris dek-e-ok minuti; 630 Mexikiana soldati mortis, e=C2=A0non mort= is=C2=A0de la Texiani. La nedependeso di la nova republiko ne esis agnoskat= a da Mexikia. La precipua politikala afero en la republiko Texas esis kad= =C2=A0ol devas esar parto di la USA o ne;=C2=A0en 1845 ol divenis stato di = la USA. =C2=A0 1926. Elizabeth II, rejino di la Unionita Rejio depos 1952, = naskis en London. Elua patro esis la duko di York, qua divenis rejulo Georg= e VI en 1937 pos la abdiko di sua fratulo Edward VIII. Elua matro la dukino= di York esis Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, di qua la ancestri inkluzis John Lyon, = sekretario di David II rejulo di Skotia (regnis inter 1329 e 1371)=C2=A0ed = Owain Glyn Dwr, la Walsa princulo (regnis 1400-16). =C2=A0 Kordiale DGW =C2= =A0 ---361423941-904720667-1335007102=:650122 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Ye ca dio, 21 aprilo...
 
753 A.K. Segun legendo, Roma fondesis da jemeli= Romulus e Remus. Li esis filiuli di Rhea Silvia; el esis filiino di N= umitor, rejulo di Alba Longa, olqua esis civito 19 km sud-este de Roma= . (La fondero di Alba Longa ye 1179 A.K., Ascianus, esis filiulo di Aeneas,= la Troyana heroo qua eskapis de la siejo di Troy.) Rhea Silvia esabis= violacata da la deo Marso, e tale Romulus e Remus esis mi-d= eala. Numitor, timante ke li prenus la trono di Alba Longa, imperis ke li esez dronata; li salvesis = da volfino, qua flegis li. Kande la muri di la projetata urbo esis kon= struktita, Remus kritikis olia mikreso; pro to, Romulus ocidis Remus. = Il nomizis la urbo Roma pro sua nomo, ed il esis olua unesma rejo.
 
1836. La batalio di San Jac= into, en Texas, eventis; Texas, antee parto di Mexikia, pose= divenis su-guvernanta. En la batalio la Texiana armeo di Generalo Sam= Houston, qua inkluzis multa voluntanti de USA, vinkis la Mexikiana armeo d= i Generalo Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna. La batalio duris dek-e-ok minuti; 6= 30 Mexikiana soldati mortis, e non mortis de la Texiani. La nedep= endeso di la nova republiko ne esis agnoskata da Mexikia. La precipua polit= ikala afero en la republiko Texas esis kad ol devas esar parto di la U= SA o ne; en 1845 ol divenis stato di la USA.
 
19= 26. Elizabeth II, rejino di la Unionita Rejio depos 1952, naskis en London.= Elua patro esis la duko di York, qua divenis rejulo George VI en 1937 pos la abdiko di sua fratulo Edw= ard VIII. Elua matro la dukino di York esis Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, di qua la= ancestri inkluzis John Lyon, = sekretario di David II rejulo di Skotia (regnis inter 1329 e 1371) ed = Owain Glyn Dwr, la Walsa princulo (regnis 1400-16).
 
Kordiale DGW
 
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Danko pro tua suba respondo-mesajo por klarigar, ke l'= amiko Dimitri esis ta, qua tradukis la kansono "Quando" de l'Italiana aden= Lingwa de Planeta. Ho, yes! Yen ke nia kara Dimitri esas ya bon artisto! = Me anke dankas tu pro tua mesajo en Espo e LdP, quo semblas a me lo maxim = efikiva favore di LdP, adminime che nia komuna helpo-lingual mondumo. Stan= dez bone, ed adavane, Tiliu! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En pos= ta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Attilio Liotto skribis: .= =E2=80=9CQuando=E2=80=9D en lidepla estas traduko de Dimitri. =C4=9Ci = estas estas tre bona traduko ne nur la=C5=ADsignife sed anka=C5=AD kaj prec= ipe la=C5=ADmetrike, =C4=9Di estas tute ta=C5=ADga por esti kantata. Fakt= e Dimitri tradukis itala kanzono al lidepla kanzono. . =E2=80=9CQuando= =E2=80=9D pa lidepla es tradukta bay Dimitri. Is es gro hao tradukta bu s= ol segun signifa bat toshi e un-nem segun metrika, it es ga godi-she fo gei= gani. Faktem Dimitri tradukti italian-ney gana unu lidepla-ney gana. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10427 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Yen ke kun via helpo, se advere bezonata, me ipsa a= udacas tradukar nia frazo #40, ca-kaze, aden Mondlango/Ulango. Voluntez ind= ikar a me kad esas ula eroro! Mondlango/Ulango: Kato casin muso, dogo kato= , kido dogo, aboto kido, ay Godo aboto. Kad omno en ordino? Se yes, me in= kluzos tal tradukuro en mea nexta listo. Dume, me esperas ke nia frazo #40 = esos anke tradukita aden Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Idiom Neutral= , Latino sine Flexione, Neo, Glosa, LFN, ed altra LIA-sistemi. Predanko, e= maxim kordial saluto a vi omna! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * *= * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" = skribis: > > Tik-tak, amiketi! > > Yen itere nia frazo specal #40, qua tr= adukesis > provizore aden la 9 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > Esperanto, Ido, Novi= al, Sibelingua, Sambahsa, ARIEL, > LdP, Rapidlingue, Populido. > > Espera= nto: > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon infano, > infanon abato kaj a= baton Dio. > > Ido: > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero, > puer= on abado ed abadon Deo. > > Novial: > Mause kate chasad, kate hunde chasad= , hunde puere chasad, > puere abate chasad, e abate Dee chasad. > > Sibel= ingua: > Muse esev chasata da kate, kate da hunde, hunde da puere, > puere = da abate, e abate da Deo. > > Sambahsa: > Un musem chassit un catis, un ca= tem un kwaunis, un kwaunem un magvis, > un magvem abbatis ed abbatem Divis.= > > ARIEL: > Un cat chasave un mus, un can un cat, un puer un can, > un a= bat un puer, e Deo un abat. > > LdP: > Maus gei-te shikari bay kota, kota = bay doga, doga bay kinda, > kinda bay abat, e abat bay Boh. > > Rapidlingu= e: > Un kate chasav un muse, un hunde un kate et un garsono un hunde, > un= abate un garsono et Teo un abate. > > Populido: > Kat chasay mus, kan kat= , puer kan, > abad puer, e Deu abad. > > > Se vi povas e deziras lo, volu= ntez tradukar nia frazo #40 > aden Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Idi= om Neutral, Volap=FCk, > Neo, Glosa, LFN, Mondlango ed irg altra helpo-lin= gui neutra! > > (Memorez ke "muso, kato, hundo, puero, abado e Deo", qui a= paras > en l'original Ido-frazo, esas neutra vorti, do nek maskulal nek fem= inal) > > Adavane nia frazo #40! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a >= * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10428 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60115 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2012 14:00:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Apr 2012 14:00:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng7-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.83) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2012 14:00:31 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.86] by ng7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2012 14:00:30 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2012 14:00:30 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 14:00:28 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <90C7C1FF-BE18-4F4A-B466-EA72CDCA4697@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Bazal (mil radik), bazal semane X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=DV6sI10Myi3KaJtwbiAbYXGeK2ZU09yNr9Ip4NDMDyW5uaaXV98xOx03Pyvk X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Saluto, Osmund! Yo tre dubita, ke hebrei Torah rave relate al deo Thor. Fon= etika no es fidela indikator in tala kazes. Yo tamen inkontrav informacione= , ke germanik runes forsan devena de un semitik alfabete. To es plu simila = a un veritate. Kuankam, runes es un koze enigmata, e diversa versiones de l= esi deveno existe. Runes es un koze interesanta por interlinguistika, pro k= e kada rune have su signifiko. Anke mantik praktika kun runes es populara, = kel uza simbolik signifiko de runes. Yo nun tradukav li versione de magik s= ignifiko de runes konosata in Rusia, yo metev isto hike: http://postamundi.= wikkii.com/wiki/Magik_uzo_de_germanik_runes Anke yo nun videv in internet s= imila koze in Italiani lingua. Semble, signifiko es kelke diferenta, ma jen= erale plu-min simila. Es interesanta, kara Osmund, ko tu pensa pri isto, es= ke tala kozes have alkual sense? Sembla a me, ke tu have interese pri tala = kozes. Anke multa runes have su dees-patrones, yo save, ke in li materiale = kel yo nun tradukav li informacione es nekompleta e forsan anke ne justa, m= a yo espera kontinuar studio del simbolika runik ex altra fontes. Rosto. = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Osmund Aukland escribi= =F3: > > Car Rosto! > Multe grazii pro tu interesante response. Si, il ha u= n paralelitate intra le nomini nordic/germanic/ saxon e le nomini roman/gre= c del diei e deitati del septimane. Tu menzione le similitate e le diferenz= ie Odin verso Mercur. Odin non ha ule coneczion mercantil.Thor era original= mente le prime del =C6sir (deitati) e su die "Thors-dag" era le die plus sa= ncte. Il es posible ce le =C6sir son arivate hic al Nord ex Kaukasus et era= hebrei in lingue e cultur previemente. In tal case Odin pote eser le titul= e Adin (senior). Le alfabet proto hebraic habeva su litere Ayin como nostre= O, i.e. un zircule. E Thor pote eser le Torah-deitate. In iste maniere lor= religion pote eser un mixtur del grec/romanic e del hebree. > Ance lor cal= ender era un del 364 diei, 13 mensi con 4 septimani in cate mense. Io crede= ce lor prime septimane del ano era le un ce containava le ecuinox vernal, = o forsan le solstizie hibernal. Le scripturi de Snorre Sturlason, "Heimskir= ingla" et "Edda" describe como iste deitati era originalmente humani normal= i, ma regini e reginai intra du populi diferenti, viz le =C6sir e le Vanir.= > Forsan es iste historie ultra le thema discutate hic, et in tal case par= dona me per favor. > E finalmente: Multe grazii pro admiter me in vostre d= iscusion interesante. > > Osmund > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10429 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Ci es li frase #40 in Occidental/Interlingue: Occidental/Int= erlingue: Un cat chassat un mus, un cane un cat, un infante un cane, un aba= te un infante e Deo un abate. Amikalmen Thomas > > --- En posta_Mundi@y= ahoogroups.com, > "postamundi" skribis: > > > > Tik-tak, ami= keti! > > > > Yen itere nia frazo specal #40, qua tradukesis > > provizore= aden la 9 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > > Esperanto, Ido, Novial, Sibelingua, Sa= mbahsa, ARIEL, > > LdP, Rapidlingue, Populido. > > > > Esperanto: > > Mus= on chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon infano, > > infanon abato kaj abaton Di= o. > > > > Ido: > > Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon puero, > > puer= on abado ed abadon Deo. > > > > Novial: > > Mause kate chasad, kate hunde = chasad, hunde puere chasad, > > puere abate chasad, e abate Dee chasad. > = > > > Sibelingua: > > Muse esev chasata da kate, kate da hunde, hunde da p= uere, > > puere da abate, e abate da Deo. > > > > Sambahsa: > > Un musem c= hassit un catis, un catem un kwaunis, un kwaunem un magvis, > > un magvem a= bbatis ed abbatem Divis. > > > > ARIEL: > > Un cat chasave un mus, un can = un cat, un puer un can, > > un abat un puer, e Deo un abat. > > > > LdP: >= > Maus gei-te shikari bay kota, kota bay doga, doga bay kinda, > > kinda b= ay abat, e abat bay Boh. > > > > Rapidlingue: > > Un kate chasav un muse, = un hunde un kate et un garsono un hunde, > > un abate un garsono et Teo un= abate. > > > > Populido: > > Kat chasay mus, kan kat, puer kan, > > abad = puer, e Deu abad. > > > > > > Se vi povas e deziras lo, voluntez tradukar= nia frazo #40 > > aden Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Idiom Neutral,= Volap=FCk, > > Neo, Glosa, LFN, Mondlango ed irg altra helpo-lingui neutr= a! > > > > (Memorez ke "muso, kato, hundo, puero, abado e Deo", qui aparas= > > en l'original Ido-frazo, esas neutra vorti, do nek maskulal nek femina= l) > > > > Adavane nia frazo #40! > > > > > > * * * * * * * * > > p a r = t a k a > > * * * * * * * * > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10432 Return-Path: X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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El cia suba mesagxo ekaperas tradicia lingva eraro de Es= peranto: la konfuzo inter "esperantisto" (esperantosubtenanto, movadano de = la esperantismo) kaj "esperantoparolanto" (esperantouzanto, parolanto a=C5= =AD skribanto de la lingvo Esperanto). Ci, =C5=9Dajne, parolas sube kiel e= sperantoparolanto =C4=89e cia kritiko al Noamo =C4=A4omskio (mi uzas la ori= ginalan prononcon, ne la anglitan). Mi, =C4=89i tie, ne parolos rekte pri = cia kritiko al la politikaj vidpunktoj el =C4=A4omskio, sed nur pri cia kri= tiko al liaj vidpunktoj pri Esperanto. Li kaj mi opinias ke Esperanto ne e= stas vere lingvo. Ci opinias ke jes. =C4=A4omskio ne estas esperantisto nek= esperantoparolanto. Ci estas esperantoparolanto kaj esperantisto. Mi estas= esperantoparolanto, sed ne esperantisto. Science, lingvistike, ekster la = movado esperantismo, la bazoj pro ne konsideri plene lingvon al Esperanto n= ek al la aliaj helpoplanlingvoj estas objektivaj, eksperimentaj, pruvitaj k= aj komune akceptitaj =C4=89e la lingvoscienco (lingvistiko). Kial? =C4=88a= r lingvo, dialekto, kaj tiel plu, estas empirie difinitaj kiel oralaj homaj= komunikiloj (kies skribado estas duaranga kaj ne =C4=89iam ekzistanta) kon= stante submetitaj al evoluo la=C5=AD la le=C4=9Do de la plej malgranda peno= . Tial e=C4=89 la moderna hebrea lingvo, malgra=C5=AD sia malofta uzo =C4= =9Dis la nuntempa refondi=C4=9Do de Izraelo (Israelo) kiel teritoria nacio = estas lingvo... sed ne la tiel nomata "moderna latina lingvo". La moderna l= atina lingvo ne ekzistas. =C4=9Ci ne spertas fonetikajn =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dojn l= a=C5=AD la plej malgranda peno, kiel malanka=C5=AD sia sintakso, siaj kazoj= , kaj tiel plu. La latinidaj lingvoj a=C5=AD dialektoj ja estas rekta temo = de la lingvistiko, sed ne la fosilo formale uzata foje kiel komunikilo sub = la nomo "moderna Latino". Alidirite: la modernaj hebrea kaj greka ne estas= fosiloj, sed lingvoj kun la samaj bazaj propra=C4=B5oj de la aliaj lingvoj= a=C5=AD dialektoj kiel la franca, la g=C5=ADarania, la japana, la arabaj, = kaj tiel plu. Kontraste, mi kategorie deklaras ke Volapuko, Esperanto, Ido,= Novialo, Ikuso, Ulango, Interling=C5=ADo, Usiko kaj la ceteraj helpoplanli= ngvoj ne estas vere lingvoj. Se, kiel eksplicite =C4=89e la ekstertipa okaz= o el Ikuso, oni akceptas la rektan evoluon de tia "lingvo" la=C5=AD la le= =C4=9Do de la plej malgranda peno, =C4=9Di a=C5=ADtomate havos fonetikajn, = morfologiajn, sintaksajn, kaj tiel plu, konstantajn =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dojn. La = "moderna latina lingvo", la "moderna klasika greka lingvo", Esperanto, Novi= alo a=C5=AD Intalo ne povas (ne rajtas) spontane =C5=9Dan=C4=9Di fonetike, = sintakse nek morfologie la=C5=AD la prefera=C4=B5oj de siaj pse=C5=ADdoparo= lantoj (reale, skribantoj kaj legantoj kiuj aplikas formalajn regulojn de p= rononco al skribaj strukturoj sendependaj de reala la=C5=ADtado). Mi estas= lingvisto, kaj la implicoj de miaj nunaj asertoj estas sufi=C4=89e komplek= saj por esti taksitaj ta=C5=ADge per kurta interneta mesa=C4=9Do. Sed mi op= inias ke, almena=C5=AD, tio kion mi volas diri restos protektita kontra=C5= =AD gravaj misinterpretadoj per la separita tuj aperonta frazo. La moderna= klasika greka lingvo ne estas vere lingvo. La moderna greka lingvo estas v= ere lingvo. Kiam mi parolas, a=C5=ADskultas a=C5=AD (multe pli ofte) skrib= as kaj legas Esperanton, mi bone scias ke mi uzas pse=C5=ADdolingvon, kaj k= e kun Ido, Ad=C4=B5uvilo, Idiomo Ne=C5=ADtrala kaj aliaj helpoplanlingvoj k= iujn mi reale uzas, la afero estas la sama, kontraste kun la okazoj kiam mi= parolas la galegan, la hebrean, la g=C5=ADaranian, la maltan a=C5=AD la hi= ndian lingvojn; =C4=89ifoje, mi parolas verajn lingvojn a=C5=AD dialektojn.= Ci kaj mi ne estas "samideanoj"... nur samlingvanoj per la (pse=C5=ADdo)l= ingvo Esperanto, plene efika komunikive =C4=89e formalaj situacioj kiel =C4= =89i tiu mesa=C4=9Do mem. La tiel nomataj "denaskaj esperantoparolantoj" n= e ekzistas reale, =C4=89ar (almena=C5=AD =C4=9Dis nun) ekzistas neniu homa = grupo kiu parolus Esperanton sub la nepra evoluo de =C4=89iu vera lingvo la= =C5=AD la le=C4=9Do el la plej malgranda pleno. Ja ili povos ekzisti reale,= future, kaj tiam nepre la lingvo (ne plu nur pse=C5=ADdolingvo a=C5=AD kva= za=C5=ADlingvo) Esperanto evoluos sendepende de akademiaj reguloj. Neniu re= ala lingvo a=C5=AD dialekto petas permeson al akademioj a=C5=AD eruditoj po= r ekzisti. La ekzisto de reala lingvo aperas unue, kaj ties akademianoj a= =C5=AD eruditoj =C4=89iam poste (kaj duarange). Ni ne rajtas uzi la saman = parolon, "lingvo", por du reala=C4=B5oj ja similaj sed radikale distingitaj= . Amike, el Aleksandro Ksavero Kasanovo Domingo, elektronika po=C5=9Dto tr= igrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punkto es). ----- Originala mesa=C4= =9Do ----- Aliquando bonus dormitat Homerus Posted by Anton Obernd= orfer to Esperanta Retradio Tiun =C4=89i sonartikolon verkis kaj produktis = Gian Piero Savio el Israelo Aliquando_.mp3Listen on Posterous E=C4=89 la = bona Homero dormetas de temp' al tempo =C4=88i tiu konata dira=C4=B5o el la= verkoj de la fama latina poeto Horacio, kies signifo estas "e=C4=89 granda= homo, ie =C4=89i tie plene eraras", tre trafe apliki=C4=9Das, miaopinie, a= l la fama nuntempa usona lingvisto, filozofo, pridiskutata politika aktivul= o, a=C5=ADtoro kaj prelegisto Noam Chomsky. Kiel duonjarcenta informadikist= o kaj amatora lingvisto, mi tre taksas liajn sciencajn atingojn kaj konsent= as kun li pri kelkaj el liaj politikaj vidpunktoj sed firmege malkonsentas = pri aliaj. Avram Noam Chomsky [=C4=A4omski, sed angle prononcita T=C4=89oms= ki] naski=C4=9Dis en 1928 al judaj gepatroj en Filadelfio (Pensilvanio). Li= a patro, venis de urbeto en Ukrajno kaj estis klerulo pri la hebrea lingvo.= La patrino venis el kio nun estas Belorusujo, sed malkiel sia edzo, =C5=9D= i plenkreskis en Usono kaj parolis la =E2=80=9Ckutiman novjorkan anglan". I= lia unua lingvo estis la jida, sed la=C5=AD Chomsky, estis tabuo paroli =C4= =9Din. Li priskribas sian familion, kiel vivantan en ia =E2=80=9Cjuda geto,= =E2=80=9D disi=C4=9Dinta en =E2=80=9Cjidan flankon=E2=80=9D kaj =E2=80=9Che= brean flankon=E2=80=9D, kun sia familio ali=C4=9Dinta al la hebrea kaj vart= anta lin per hebrea kulturo kaj literaturo. Dum mallonga tempo de sia junul= eco, Chomsky lo=C4=9Dis en Israelo en la kibuco Hazorea. Li doktori=C4=9Dis= pri lingvoscienco =C4=89e la Universitato de Pensilvanio en 1955. Li faris= parton de sia doktori=C4=9Da esplorado dum kvar jaroj =C4=89e la universit= ato Harward. En sia doktori=C4=9Da tezo, li ekevoluigis iujn el siaj lingvo= sciencaj ideoj, ellaborante ilin en sia libro de 1957, Sintaksaj Strukturoj= , lia plej bone konata verko pri lingvoscienco. =C4=9Custe dum tiuj jaroj C= homsky ekevoluigis sian teorion pri generpova gramatiko, kiu profunde influ= is la lingvosciencon. Li establis la Hierar=C4=A5ion Chomsky, enklasigsiste= mon de formalaj lingvoj la=C5=AD ilia generpova potenco. Chomsky ekde=C4=B5= oris =C4=89e la Masa=C4=89useca Instituto de Teknologio (MIT) en 1955 kaj e= n 1976 li estis nomita Instituta Profesoro. Ekde tiam li instruadis sen=C4= =89ese =C4=89e MIT dum 53 jaroj. Li lo=C4=9Das apud Bostono en Masa=C4=89us= eco kaj ofte voja=C4=9Das por prelegi pri politiko. Liaj vastatingaj kritik= oj de usona fremda politiko kaj la legitimeco de usona potenco faris lin po= lemika kaj tre pridiskutata persono. Li tre ofte atakis kaj da=C5=ADre atak= as la politikon de Israelo kaj la usonan apogon al =C4=9Di. Post tiu =C4=89= i enkonduko iom longa sed necesa por klarigi la fonan kuntekston, mi povas = nun prezenti miajn du =C4=89efajn kritikojn kontra=C5=AD Chomsky: la unua k= iel Israelano kaj la dua kiel Esperantisto. Mi persone klopodas respekti la= opiniojn de aliuloj sed ne kiam ili fontas el malagnosko de faktoj. Dum la= somero de 2006, kiam sur la nordan Israelon kaj aparte sur la urbon Hajfo = falis misiloj lan=C4=89itaj el Lebanono, Chomsky en sia vastatinga interret= a forumo asertadis, ke neniu misilo falas sur Israelon kaj temas pri nura p= ropagando! Alia tre surpriza deklaro de Chomsky rilatas rekte al Esperanto.= Dum prelego (ver=C5=9Dajne en la jaro 2003) al demando, =C4=89u generpova = gramatiko apliki=C4=9Das al Esperanto, li respondis "Esperanto ne estas lin= gvo, sed vortaro kaj sugesto pri gramatiko. Homoj komprenas =C4=9Din, =C4= =89ar ili uzas siajn proprajn intuiciajn sciojn. Do, al la demando ne eblas= respondi". Tiu =C4=89i diro fare de unu el la pli eminentaj nunaj lingvist= oj estas des pli =C5=9Doka, =C4=89ar inter lingvistoj simpatiantaj de Esper= anto, =C5=9Dufi=C4=89e multe opinias, ke =C4=9Duste Esperanto estas sufi=C4= =89e ta=C5=ADga pruvo de gramatika generpovo, kvankam oni neglate povus =C4= =9Din enkadrigi en Hierar=C4=A5io Chomsky. Oni povus subteni, ke anka=C5=AD= nia neakedemia lingvisto, Ludoviko Zamenhof, fu=C5=9Dis kiam diris, ke nen= iamaniere la biblia hebrea lingvo povu revigli=C4=9Di kiel moderna lingvo. = Sed indas konsideri la fakton, ke Zamenhof eraris pri estonta afero kaj Cho= msky fu=C5=9Dis pri Esperanto, la jam de longe sin pruvinta kiel realan efi= kan lingvon. _____ Aprenda ESPERANTO com um amigo! Programa MIA AMIKO... P= articipe! http://esperanto.brazilo.org -- Saludos, Alexandre = mailto:trigrupo@... ------------401F1152E0D235D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Aliquando bonus dormitat Homerus

&nb= sp;      Saluton, Adonis.

       El cia suba mesagxo ekaperas tra= dicia lingva eraro de Esperanto: la konfuzo inter "esperantisto" (esperanto= subtenanto, movadano de la esperantismo) kaj "esperantoparolanto" (esperant= ouzanto, parolanto a=C5=AD skribanto de la lingvo Esperanto).

       Ci, =C5=9Da= jne, parolas sube kiel esperantoparolanto =C4=89e cia kritiko al Noamo =C4= =A4omskio (mi uzas la originalan prononcon, ne la anglitan).

       Mi, =C4=89i = tie, ne parolos rekte pri cia kritiko al la politikaj vidpunktoj el =C4=A4o= mskio, sed nur pri cia kritiko al liaj vidpunktoj pri Esperanto.

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       Li kaj m= i opinias ke Esperanto ne estas vere lingvo. Ci opinias ke jes. =C4=A4omski= o ne estas esperantisto nek esperantoparolanto. Ci estas esperantoparolanto= kaj esperantisto. Mi estas esperantoparolanto, sed ne esperantisto.=

       Scie= nce, lingvistike, ekster la movado esperantismo, la bazoj pro ne konsideri = plene lingvon al Esperanto nek al la aliaj helpoplanlingvoj estas objektiva= j, eksperimentaj, pruvitaj kaj komune akceptitaj =C4=89e la lingvoscienco (= lingvistiko).

  &nbs= p;    Kial? =C4=88ar lingvo, dialekto, kaj tiel plu, estas empiri= e difinitaj kiel oralaj homaj komunikiloj (kies skribado estas duaranga kaj= ne =C4=89iam ekzistanta) konstante submetitaj al evoluo la=C5=AD la le=C4= =9Do de la plej malgranda peno.

       Tial e=C4=89 la moderna hebrea lingvo, ma= lgra=C5=AD sia malofta uzo =C4=9Dis la nuntempa refondi=C4=9Do de Izraelo (= Israelo) kiel teritoria nacio estas lingvo... sed ne la tiel nomata "modern= a latina lingvo". La moderna latina lingvo ne ekzistas. =C4=9Ci ne spertas = fonetikajn =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dojn la=C5=AD la plej malgranda peno, kiel malanka= =C5=AD sia sintakso, siaj kazoj, kaj tiel plu. La latinidaj lingvoj a=C5=AD= dialektoj ja estas rekta temo de la lingvistiko, sed ne la fosilo formale = uzata foje kiel komunikilo sub la nomo "moderna Latino".

       Alidirite: la mo= dernaj hebrea kaj greka ne estas fosiloj, sed lingvoj kun la samaj bazaj pr= opra=C4=B5oj de la aliaj lingvoj a=C5=AD dialektoj kiel la franca, la g=C5= =ADarania, la japana, la arabaj, kaj tiel plu. Kontraste, mi kategorie dekl= aras ke Volapuko, Esperanto, Ido, Novialo, Ikuso, Ulango, Interling=C5=ADo,= Usiko kaj la ceteraj helpoplanlingvoj ne estas vere lingvoj. Se, kiel eksp= licite =C4=89e la ekstertipa okazo el Ikuso, oni akceptas la rektan evoluon= de tia "lingvo" la=C5=AD la le=C4=9Do de la plej malgranda peno, =C4=9Di a= =C5=ADtomate havos fonetikajn, morfologiajn, sintaksajn, kaj tiel plu, kons= tantajn =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dojn.

       La "moderna latina lingvo", la "moderna klasik= a greka lingvo", Esperanto, Novialo a=C5=AD Intalo ne povas (ne rajtas) spo= ntane =C5=9Dan=C4=9Di fonetike, sintakse nek morfologie la=C5=AD la prefera= =C4=B5oj de siaj pse=C5=ADdoparolantoj (reale, skribantoj kaj legantoj kiuj= aplikas formalajn regulojn de prononco al skribaj strukturoj sendependaj d= e reala la=C5=ADtado).

&n= bsp;      Mi estas lingvisto, kaj la implicoj de miaj nunaj = asertoj estas sufi=C4=89e kompleksaj por esti taksitaj ta=C5=ADge per kurta= interneta mesa=C4=9Do. Sed mi opinias ke, almena=C5=AD, tio kion mi volas = diri restos protektita kontra=C5=AD gravaj misinterpretadoj per la separita= tuj aperonta frazo.

&nbs= p;      La moderna klasika greka lingvo ne estas vere lingvo= . La moderna greka lingvo estas vere lingvo.

       Kiam mi parolas, a=C5=ADskul= tas a=C5=AD (multe pli ofte) skribas kaj legas Esperanton, mi bone scias ke= mi uzas pse=C5=ADdolingvon, kaj ke kun Ido, Ad=C4=B5uvilo, Idiomo Ne=C5=AD= trala kaj aliaj helpoplanlingvoj kiujn mi reale uzas, la afero estas la sam= a, kontraste kun la okazoj kiam mi parolas la galegan, la hebrean, la g=C5= =ADaranian, la maltan a=C5=AD la hindian lingvojn; =C4=89ifoje, mi parolas = verajn lingvojn a=C5=AD dialektojn.

       Ci kaj mi ne estas "samideanoj"... nu= r samlingvanoj per la (pse=C5=ADdo)lingvo Esperanto, plene efika komunikive= =C4=89e formalaj situacioj kiel =C4=89i tiu mesa=C4=9Do mem.

       La tiel nom= ataj "denaskaj esperantoparolantoj" ne ekzistas reale, =C4=89ar (almena=C5= =AD =C4=9Dis nun) ekzistas neniu homa grupo kiu parolus Esperanton sub la n= epra evoluo de =C4=89iu vera lingvo la=C5=AD la le=C4=9Do el la plej malgra= nda pleno. Ja ili povos ekzisti reale, future, kaj tiam nepre la lingvo (ne= plu nur pse=C5=ADdolingvo a=C5=AD kvaza=C5=ADlingvo) Esperanto evoluos sen= depende de akademiaj reguloj. Neniu reala lingvo a=C5=AD dialekto petas per= meson al akademioj a=C5=AD eruditoj por ekzisti. La ekzisto de reala lingvo= aperas unue, kaj ties akademianoj a=C5=AD eruditoj =C4=89iam poste (kaj du= arange).

    &n= bsp;  Ni ne rajtas uzi la saman parolon, "lingvo", por du reala=C4=B5o= j ja similaj sed radikale distingitaj.

       Amike, el Aleksandro Ksavero Kasan= ovo Domingo, elektronika po=C5=9Dto trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo= punkto es).

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Tiun =C4=89i s= onartikolon verkis kaj produktis Gian Piero Savio el Israelo

Aliquando_.mp3Listen o= n Posterous

E=C4=89 la bona Homero dormetas de temp' al tempo

=C4=88i tiu konata dira=C4=B5o el la v= erkoj de la fama latina poeto Horacio, kies signifo estas "e=C4=89 granda h= omo, ie =C4=89i tie plene eraras", tre trafe apliki=C4=9Das, miaopinie, al = la fama nuntempa usona lingvisto, filozofo, pridiskutata politika aktivulo,= a=C5=ADtoro kaj prelegisto Noam Chomsky. Kiel duonjarcenta informadikisto = kaj amatora lingvisto, mi tre taksas liajn sciencajn atingojn kaj konsentas= kun li pri kelkaj el liaj politikaj vidpunktoj sed firmege malkonsentas pr= i aliaj.

Avram Noam Choms= ky [=C4=A4omski, sed angle prononcita T=C4=89omski] naski=C4=9Dis en 1928 a= l judaj gepatroj en Filadelfio (Pensilvanio). Lia patro, venis de urbeto en= Ukrajno kaj estis klerulo pri la hebrea lingvo. La patrino venis el kio nu= n estas Belorusujo, sed malkiel sia edzo, =C5=9Di plenkreskis en Usono kaj = parolis la =E2=80=9Ckutiman novjorkan anglan". Ilia unua lingvo estis la ji= da, sed la=C5=AD Chomsky, estis tabuo paroli =C4=9Din. Li priskribas sian f= amilion, kiel vivantan en ia =E2=80=9Cjuda geto,=E2=80=9D disi=C4=9Dinta en= =E2=80=9Cjidan flankon=E2=80=9D kaj =E2=80=9Chebrean flankon=E2=80=9D, kun= sia familio ali=C4=9Dinta al la hebrea kaj vartanta lin per hebrea kulturo= kaj literaturo.

Dum mall= onga tempo de sia junuleco, Chomsky lo=C4=9Dis en Israelo en la kibuco Hazo= rea. Li doktori=C4=9Dis pri lingvoscienco =C4=89e la Universitato de Pensil= vanio en 1955. Li faris parton de sia doktori=C4=9Da esplorado dum kvar jar= oj =C4=89e la universitato Harward.

En sia doktori=C4=9Da tezo, li ekevoluigis iujn el siaj lingvosc= iencaj ideoj, ellaborante ilin en sia libro de 1957, Sintaksaj Strukturoj, = lia plej bone konata verko pri lingvoscienco. =C4=9Custe dum tiuj jaroj Cho= msky ekevoluigis sian teorion pri generpova gramatiko, kiu profunde influis= la lingvosciencon. Li establis la Hierar=C4=A5ion Chomsky, enklasigsistemo= n de formalaj lingvoj la=C5=AD ilia generpova potenco.

Chomsky ekde=C4=B5oris =C4=89e la Masa=C4=89= useca Instituto de Teknologio (MIT) en 1955 kaj en 1976 li estis nomita Ins= tituta Profesoro. Ekde tiam li instruadis sen=C4=89ese =C4=89e MIT dum 53 j= aroj. Li lo=C4=9Das apud Bostono en Masa=C4=89useco kaj ofte voja=C4=9Das p= or prelegi pri politiko.

= Liaj vastatingaj kritikoj de usona fremda politiko kaj la legitimeco de uso= na potenco faris lin polemika kaj tre pridiskutata persono. Li tre ofte ata= kis kaj da=C5=ADre atakas la politikon de Israelo kaj la usonan apogon al = =C4=9Di.

Post tiu =C4=89i= enkonduko iom longa sed necesa por klarigi la fonan kuntekston, mi povas n= un prezenti miajn du =C4=89efajn kritikojn kontra=C5=AD Chomsky: la unua ki= el Israelano kaj la dua kiel Esperantisto.

Mi persone klopodas respekti la opiniojn de aliuloj sed n= e kiam ili fontas el malagnosko de faktoj. Dum la somero de 2006, kiam sur = la nordan Israelon kaj aparte sur la urbon Hajfo falis misiloj lan=C4=89ita= j el Lebanono, Chomsky en sia vastatinga interreta forumo asertadis, ke nen= iu misilo falas sur Israelon kaj temas pri nura propagando!

Alia tre surpriza deklaro de Chomsky ril= atas rekte al Esperanto. Dum prelego (ver=C5=9Dajne en la jaro 2003) al dem= ando, =C4=89u generpova gramatiko apliki=C4=9Das al Esperanto, li respondis= "Esperanto ne estas lingvo, sed vortaro kaj sugesto pri gramatiko. Homoj k= omprenas =C4=9Din, =C4=89ar ili uzas siajn proprajn intuiciajn sciojn. Do, = al la demando ne eblas respondi". Tiu =C4=89i diro fare de unu el la pli em= inentaj nunaj lingvistoj estas des pli =C5=9Doka, =C4=89ar inter lingvistoj= simpatiantaj de Esperanto, =C5=9Dufi=C4=89e multe opinias, ke =C4=9Duste E= speranto estas sufi=C4=89e ta=C5=ADga pruvo de gramatika generpovo, kvankam= oni neglate povus =C4=9Din enkadrigi en Hierar=C4=A5io Chomsky.

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Oni povus subteni, ke anka=C5=AD ni= a neakedemia lingvisto, Ludoviko Zamenhof, fu=C5=9Dis kiam diris, ke neniam= aniere la biblia hebrea lingvo povu revigli=C4=9Di kiel moderna lingvo. Sed= indas konsideri la fakton, ke Zamenhof eraris pri estonta afero kaj Chomsk= y fu=C5=9Dis pri Esperanto, la jam de longe sin pruvinta kiel realan efikan= lingvon.

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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 50233 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2012 03:50:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2012 03:50:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng13-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.216) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2012 03:50:49 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.181] by ng13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 03:50:48 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 03:50:48 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 03:50:46 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <81130973.20120422012812@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Aliquando bonus dormitat Homerus X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=npXNxGCZw972zIX6NJ0z5YV-Xuam86P1abeCWwibqlHCGP8ymYAH-B8nDL9k X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Kande Noam Homsky asertav, ke Esperanto no es lingua, il respondev al kuest= ione, eske lei teoria nominata "generativa gramatika" pova eser aplikata a = Esperanto. Ja multa yares Esperantistes no pova trankuilizar se koncernu is= ta tema. Kara amikes, eske alki pova explikar me per simpla paroles, ko es = ista generativa gramatika, pri kel li tema es, e por kuala skopes it es uti= la? Alkande yo penav komprener, ko es generativa gramatika da Noam Chomsky,= ma sinsukcesim. Eske vere isto es un koze tro komplika por simpla mortebla= s kuale yo? Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier = Casanova Domingo scriv: > > Saluton, Adonis. > El cia suba= mesagxo ekaperas tradicia lingva eraro de Esperanto: la konfuzo inter "esp= erantisto" (esperantosubtenanto, movadano de la esperantismo) kaj "esperant= oparolanto" (esperantouzanto, parolanto a=C5=AD skribanto de la lingvo Espe= ranto). > Ci, =C5=9Dajne, parolas sube kiel esperantoparolanto =C4=89e cia= kritiko al Noamo =C4=A4omskio (mi uzas la originalan prononcon, ne la angl= itan). > Mi, =C4=89i tie, ne parolos rekte pri cia kritiko al la politikaj= vidpunktoj el =C4=A4omskio, sed nur pri cia kritiko al liaj vidpunktoj pri= Esperanto. > Li kaj mi opinias ke Esperanto ne estas vere lingvo. Ci opin= ias ke jes. =C4=A4omskio ne estas esperantisto nek esperantoparolanto. Ci e= stas esperantoparolanto kaj esperantisto. Mi estas esperantoparolanto, sed = ne esperantisto. > Science, lingvistike, ekster la movado esperantismo, la= bazoj pro ne konsideri plene lingvon al Esperanto nek al la aliaj helpopla= nlingvoj estas objektivaj, eksperimentaj, pruvitaj kaj komune akceptitaj = =C4=89e la lingvoscienco (lingvistiko). > Kial? =C4=88ar lingvo, dialekto,= kaj tiel plu, estas empirie difinitaj kiel oralaj homaj komunikiloj (kies = skribado estas duaranga kaj ne =C4=89iam ekzistanta) konstante submetitaj a= l evoluo la=C5=AD la le=C4=9Do de la plej malgranda peno. > Tial e=C4=89 l= a moderna hebrea lingvo, malgra=C5=AD sia malofta uzo =C4=9Dis la nuntempa = refondi=C4=9Do de Izraelo (Israelo) kiel teritoria nacio estas lingvo... se= d ne la tiel nomata "moderna latina lingvo". La moderna latina lingvo ne ek= zistas. =C4=9Ci ne spertas fonetikajn =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dojn la=C5=AD la plej ma= lgranda peno, kiel malanka=C5=AD sia sintakso, siaj kazoj, kaj tiel plu. La= latinidaj lingvoj a=C5=AD dialektoj ja estas rekta temo de la lingvistiko,= sed ne la fosilo formale uzata foje kiel komunikilo sub la nomo "moderna L= atino". > Alidirite: la modernaj hebrea kaj greka ne estas fosiloj, sed li= ngvoj kun la samaj bazaj propra=C4=B5oj de la aliaj lingvoj a=C5=AD dialekt= oj kiel la franca, la g=C5=ADarania, la japana, la arabaj, kaj tiel plu. Ko= ntraste, mi kategorie deklaras ke Volapuko, Esperanto, Ido, Novialo, Ikuso,= Ulango, Interling=C5=ADo, Usiko kaj la ceteraj helpoplanlingvoj ne estas v= ere lingvoj. Se, kiel eksplicite =C4=89e la ekstertipa okazo el Ikuso, oni = akceptas la rektan evoluon de tia "lingvo" la=C5=AD la le=C4=9Do de la plej= malgranda peno, =C4=9Di a=C5=ADtomate havos fonetikajn, morfologiajn, sint= aksajn, kaj tiel plu, konstantajn =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dojn. > La "moderna latina = lingvo", la "moderna klasika greka lingvo", Esperanto, Novialo a=C5=AD Inta= lo ne povas (ne rajtas) spontane =C5=9Dan=C4=9Di fonetike, sintakse nek mor= fologie la=C5=AD la prefera=C4=B5oj de siaj pse=C5=ADdoparolantoj (reale, s= kribantoj kaj legantoj kiuj aplikas formalajn regulojn de prononco al skrib= aj strukturoj sendependaj de reala la=C5=ADtado). > Mi estas lingvisto, ka= j la implicoj de miaj nunaj asertoj estas sufi=C4=89e kompleksaj por esti t= aksitaj ta=C5=ADge per kurta interneta mesa=C4=9Do. Sed mi opinias ke, alme= na=C5=AD, tio kion mi volas diri restos protektita kontra=C5=AD gravaj misi= nterpretadoj per la separita tuj aperonta frazo. > La moderna klasika grek= a lingvo ne estas vere lingvo. La moderna greka lingvo estas vere lingvo. >= Kiam mi parolas, a=C5=ADskultas a=C5=AD (multe pli ofte) skribas kaj lega= s Esperanton, mi bone scias ke mi uzas pse=C5=ADdolingvon, kaj ke kun Ido, = Ad=C4=B5uvilo, Idiomo Ne=C5=ADtrala kaj aliaj helpoplanlingvoj kiujn mi rea= le uzas, la afero estas la sama, kontraste kun la okazoj kiam mi parolas la= galegan, la hebrean, la g=C5=ADaranian, la maltan a=C5=AD la hindian lingv= ojn; =C4=89ifoje, mi parolas verajn lingvojn a=C5=AD dialektojn. > Ci kaj = mi ne estas "samideanoj"... nur samlingvanoj per la (pse=C5=ADdo)lingvo Esp= eranto, plene efika komunikive =C4=89e formalaj situacioj kiel =C4=89i tiu = mesa=C4=9Do mem. > La tiel nomataj "denaskaj esperantoparolantoj" ne ekzis= tas reale, =C4=89ar (almena=C5=AD =C4=9Dis nun) ekzistas neniu homa grupo k= iu parolus Esperanton sub la nepra evoluo de =C4=89iu vera lingvo la=C5=AD = la le=C4=9Do el la plej malgranda pleno. Ja ili povos ekzisti reale, future= , kaj tiam nepre la lingvo (ne plu nur pse=C5=ADdolingvo a=C5=AD kvaza=C5= =ADlingvo) Esperanto evoluos sendepende de akademiaj reguloj. Neniu reala l= ingvo a=C5=AD dialekto petas permeson al akademioj a=C5=AD eruditoj por ekz= isti. La ekzisto de reala lingvo aperas unue, kaj ties akademianoj a=C5=AD = eruditoj =C4=89iam poste (kaj duarange). > Ni ne rajtas uzi la saman parol= on, "lingvo", por du reala=C4=B5oj ja similaj sed radikale distingitaj. > = Amike, el Aleksandro Ksavero Kasanovo Domingo, elektronika po=C5=9Dto trigr= upo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punkto es). > > ----- Originala mesa=C4=9Do= ----- > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10434 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_aeeb1b8a-ecb7-42fb-8161-655ade028e4f_" To: posta_mundi Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:20:59 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <81130973.20120422012812@...>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2012 10:20:59.0863 (UTC) FILETIME=[9CDB6670:01CD2071] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [posta_Mundi] RE: Aliquando bonus dormitat Homerus X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=3Irou8pWkcwzJjD99Ju3SfVGc8zWaDYmbES-cyteGq0 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc --_aeeb1b8a-ecb7-42fb-8161-655ade028e4f__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Rosto La teorio TG-gramatiko da Chomsky esas importanta ed omna i= nterlinguisti devas probar komprenar ol. Simple, ol asertas ke omna frazo = havas profunda strukturo e surfacala strukturo. La surfacala strukturon on= parolas o skribas. La profunda strukturo kontenas la senco dil frazo. K= onsiderez la frazo: La pomo esis manjata da me. Segun TG-gramatiko, ico= esas nur la surfacala strukturo. La profunda strukturo esas: Me manjis = la pomo. Por derivar la surfacala strukturo del profunda, on bezonas REGU= LI. Hike on bezonas plura reguli, por chanjar la ordino dil frazo, por kon= struktar la frazeto "esis manjata" ek la simpla "manjis", e fine por insert= ar la prepoziciono "da". Chomsky propozis omna co en sua libro "Syntactic= Structures". Ica libro esis la sola libro pri linguistiko en la matematik= o-biblioteko di mea universitato, nam olua pagino aspektas quale matematiko= , ne linguistiko. Tale ol interesis me, e plurafoye me probis lektar ol, m= a erste pos plura yari me fine komprenis ol. Chomsky pluse propozas ke in= fanti ja havas ica teorio en sua cerebri, nam sen ol li ne povus lernar irg= a linguo sucesoze. Il anke (kun Morris Halle) developis teorio di TG-fonol= ogio, ma co esas tante forta ke ol tote eliminas morfologio! Segun me esu= s posibla konstruktar TG-gramatiki di Espo, Ido, Novial ec., ma nulu ja agi= s lo. Pluse, denaska Espisti forsan despruvas la aserto da Chomsky, ke Esp= o ne esas reala linguo. Kordiale > To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > = From: rostislav-levchenko@... > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 03:50:46 +0000= > Subject: [posta_Mundi] RE: Aliquando bonus dormitat Homerus > > Kande N= oam Homsky asertav, ke Esperanto no es lingua, il respondev al kuestione, e= ske lei teoria nominata "generativa gramatika" pova eser aplikata a Esperan= to. Ja multa yares Esperantistes no pova trankuilizar se koncernu ista tema= . > Kara amikes, eske alki pova explikar me per simpla paroles, ko es ista = generativa gramatika, pri kel li tema es, e por kuala skopes it es utila? A= lkande yo penav komprener, ko es generativa gramatika da Noam Chomsky, ma s= insukcesim. Eske vere isto es un koze tro komplika por simpla morteblas kua= le yo? > > Rosto. --_aeeb1b8a-ecb7-42fb-8161-655ade028e4f__ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kara Rosto
 
 
La = teorio TG-gramatiko da Chomsky esas importanta ed omna interlinguisti = devas probar komprenar ol.  Simple, ol asertas ke omna frazo havas pro= funda strukturo e surfacala strukturo.  La surfacala strukturon on par= olas o skribas.  La profunda strukturo kontenas la senco dil frazo.  
Konsiderez la frazo:   La pomo esis manjata da me.  
Segun TG-gramatiko, ico esas nur la surfacala strukturo. = ; La profunda strukturo esas:   Me manjis la pomo.
 = ;
Por derivar la surfacala strukturo del profunda, on bezonas REGU= LI.  Hike on bezonas plura reguli, por chanjar la ordino dil frazo, po= r konstruktar la frazeto "esis manjata" ek la simpla "manjis", e fine = por insertar la prepoziciono "da".
 
Chomsky propozis omna co = en sua libro "Syntactic Structures".  Ica libro esis la sola libr= o pri linguistiko en la matematiko-biblioteko di mea universitato, nam = ;olua pagino aspektas quale matematiko, ne linguistiko.  Tale ol inter= esis me, e plurafoye me probis lektar ol, ma erste pos plura yari= me fine komprenis ol.
 
Chomsky pluse propozas ke infanti ja = havas ica teorio en sua cerebri, nam sen ol li ne povus lernar irga li= nguo sucesoze.  Il anke (kun Morris Halle) developis teorio di TG= -fonologio, ma co esas tante forta ke ol tote eliminas morfologio!
=  
Segun me esus posibla konstruktar TG-gramatiki di Espo, Id= o, Novial ec., ma nulu ja agis lo.  Pluse, denaska Espisti forsan= despruvas la aserto da Chomsky, ke Espo ne esas reala linguo.  
Kordiale

 
> To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com
> From: rostislav-levche= nko@...
> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 03:50:46 +0000
> Subject= : [posta_Mundi] RE: Aliquando bonus dormitat Homerus
>
> Kande= Noam Homsky asertav, ke Esperanto no es lingua, il respondev al kuestione,= eske lei teoria nominata "generativa gramatika" pova eser aplikata a Esper= anto. Ja multa yares Esperantistes no pova trankuilizar se koncernu ista te= ma.
> Kara amikes, eske alki pova explikar me per simpla paroles, ko = es ista generativa gramatika, pri kel li tema es, e por kuala skopes it es = utila? Alkande yo penav komprener, ko es generativa gramatika da Noam Choms= ky, ma sinsukcesim. Eske vere isto es un koze tro komplika por simpla morte= blas kuale yo?
>
> Rosto.
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Rapidlingue: Un kate chasav un muse, un hunde un kate et un ga= rsono un hunde, un abate un garsono et Teo un abate. Populido: Kat chasay = mus, kan kat, puer kan, abad puer, e Deu abad. Se vi povas e deziras lo, = voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden Interlingua, Idiom Neutral, Volap=FCk,= Neo, Glosa, LFN, ed irg altra helpo-lingui neutra! (Memorez ke "muso, ka= to, hundo, puero, abado e Deo", qui aparas en l'original Ido-frazo, esas ne= utra vorti, do nek maskulal nek feminal) Danko e predanko pri via kunlabor= o, amiki! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10437 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Yo komprenev, ke ista TG-gramatika, o generativa, o ko isto e= s, it merita eser studiata, e ke versimile no es posibla explikar ista teor= ia per nemulta simpla paroles. Vere, por komprener alko, maxim bona metode = es studiar li originala fonte. Yo trovav li libre da Chomsky in internet e = ja komensa lektar it. Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James C= handler scriv: > > > Kara Rosto > > > La teorio TG-gramati= ko da Chomsky esas importanta ed omna interlinguisti devas probar komprenar= ol. Simple, ol asertas ke omna frazo havas profunda strukturo e surfacala= strukturo. La surfacala strukturon on parolas o skribas. La profunda str= ukturo kontenas la senco dil frazo. > > Konsiderez la frazo: La pomo es= is manjata da me. > > Segun TG-gramatiko, ico esas nur la surfacala struk= turo. La profunda strukturo esas: Me manjis la pomo. > > Por derivar l= a surfacala strukturo del profunda, on bezonas REGULI. Hike on bezonas plu= ra reguli, por chanjar la ordino dil frazo, por konstruktar la frazeto "esi= s manjata" ek la simpla "manjis", e fine por insertar la prepoziciono "da".= > > Chomsky propozis omna co en sua libro "Syntactic Structures". Ica l= ibro esis la sola libro pri linguistiko en la matematiko-biblioteko di mea = universitato, nam olua pagino aspektas quale matematiko, ne linguistiko. T= ale ol interesis me, e plurafoye me probis lektar ol, ma erste pos plura ya= ri me fine komprenis ol. > > Chomsky pluse propozas ke infanti ja havas i= ca teorio en sua cerebri, nam sen ol li ne povus lernar irga linguo sucesoz= e. Il anke (kun Morris Halle) developis teorio di TG-fonologio, ma co esas= tante forta ke ol tote eliminas morfologio! > > Segun me esus posibla ko= nstruktar TG-gramatiki di Espo, Ido, Novial ec., ma nulu ja agis lo. Pluse= , denaska Espisti forsan despruvas la aserto da Chomsky, ke Espo ne esas re= ala linguo. > > Kordiale > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10438 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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EKS AMERIK LATIN E OSEANIA 2012-04-1= 7: Ministro de forenaj espanian Jos=E9 Garc=EDa-Margallo y Marfil av kritik= ed Argentina kausu sie desidasion nasionalifikar YPF, sosietet naftik argen= tinan, aksioner mayoritetik de kel es sosietet espanian Repsol. Desidasion = de nasionalifikasion es popular in Argentina. 2012-04-18: Kuba laudav "rebe= lasion" per Amerik Latin e Karib kontr dominasion de Stati Uniavant de Amer= ik durantu Sekst Kongres Amerikan in Kolombia. Durantu ist kongres, preside= nto de Stati Uniavant Barack Obama debav usar sue "veto imperatorik", kuale= Kuba nom it, pro ke kongres no eksprima sue volu, ke sanksioni de Stati Un= iavant kontr Kuba finia. Obstinu pres intensiv per landi sinistrismik, Stat= i Uniavant no ses blokar Kuba de partisipar kongresi amerikan. 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Polisi lansonav g= renadi temporare siekifikant kontr manifestatori proksimu eksposasion kultu= rik in Manama, keloke on vokav pro librifikasion de aktivisto pro yuri homi= k Abdulhadi al-Khawaja, kel strik per famel in prison e es preserved vivik = per gutasion ad ven. 2012-04-18: Ofisiri de SUA av kondamned fotografadi mo= nstrant soldati de SUA ko kadavri mutiled de atakatori suisidiik afganian s= uspekted. Diurnal Los Angeles Times av publiked ist fotografadi obstinu kri= tik. LINGU Idiom Neutral SON https://www.box.com/s/1eeca0b522f95ae7e048 AK= SENTUASION espanik SUB-MUSIK 1. Shua Chan Pakhi de Bari Siddique 2. "The gr= eat Bahraini massacre by the criminal coward joint forces of Saudi & Bahrai= n" eks YouTube ADRES http://nuntios.blogspot.com/2012/04/2012-04-23.html From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10440 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Generalei, kuam me skribe pri Bazal, me probe skribe per Ba= zal, mem se me no ja konose le mil radik, kel ti-ci bazal helpe-ling aberay= entotei. Se me bon komprenay, nosi kar Igor propozay utilige che nosi baza= l ling, le noms en Latin-ling (kels nos ja konose) por omni animal e vejeta= l: Me supoze, ke Igor propoze to kom spesial koz, ultrei le mil radik, por = ke Bazal abeu multi plus vorte internasion, kel on konose. Me no pove dice = ya pri, pro ke me no abe klar, ka to bon. Me pense ke l' plen vortar de Baz= al deve ven den Populido, keli vortar ven den Ido, kel es helpe-ling plen i= nternasion. Ling bazal, kel no abe plu kam mil radik, no pove abe mem propr= i noms, olkels esere konsiderat kom spesial vorte's, kel on pove prende ed = uze, se bezonat, apu le mil radik. Me ja skribay, ye plur seman pre nun, k= e por interkomunike bazal, suficeray abe nosi mil radik, plus nur kelki spe= sial vorte's, kel nos pove ya bezon, segun pri ko nos vol skribe o parle. V= us no troveray, en ti-ci letre, multi vorte, kel no apareray che le mil rad= ik de Bazal, ma nur plur spesial vorte, kel me bezonay por konstrukte ti-ci= konkret komunikaje. Nos videray ad u Bazal porteray nos per lui propri mag= ie! (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10442 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Nun, kande lu su= cesis eliminar lua omna rivali Mitt Romney havas nova defio avan su : rajun= tar Obama por la kurado a dolari-kapto. Il ja rekoltis 13 milion dolari, m= a lua rivala demokrato dum la sama tempo-periodo ganis 35 milion dolari. = =C2=A0 Mitt Romney e Barack Obama =C2=A0 PAKISTAN / AVIONO APLASTESAS KUN= 127 PERSONI EN LUA INTERNAJO Ica mashino apartenanta a privata kompanio P= akistanana aplastesis proxim la chefurbo landal, Islamabad. Esas nula espe= ro trovor posvivanto inter la pasajeri e membri dil akompananta esquado, s= egun responsivo dil polico, pro ke la dicita aviono komplete destruktesis.= Pakistan frapesis, du yari ante nun, per altra katastrofo avional. Dum ju= lio 2010, Airbus A 321 di la kompanio Airblue aplastesabis sur kolino prox= im Islamabad, mortigante 152 personi. Lore anke la mala vetero esis la kauz= o dil acidento. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 HISPANIA / PRO LA KRIZO ICA LANDO NE PLUS A= TRAKTAS LA ENMIGRANTI La arivi da resortisanti ne-Europana diminutas forte= depos ke ca lando ne plus standas bone. Li venabis por ameliorar lia situ= eso ekonomial pro ke li havis la revo di Orlando Hispana o simple la esper= o di plu bona vivo-kondicioni. Ma konfrontita a la krizo, la enmigranti de= sembarkita en Hispania retroiras a lia origino-landi. =C2=A0 Ne parfinita = konstrukturo en Madrid, aprilo 2012 =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad= omni. JM :::-::: ---361423941-1082346752-1335182934=:788779 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Jean Martign= on, che plura Ido-forumi)
 
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Lundie, ye la 23m= a di aprilo 2012.
 
Dio di santa Georgius.
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / Kande minim expektite, la leporo s= altas.
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ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil Tauro = guvernata dal planeto Venero.
 
VETERO = / Griza cielo pluvema, cajorne, en Francilia.
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KONCIZE
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USA / OBAMA HAVAS DE= KOPLE PLU MULTA PEKUNIO KAM ROMNEY EN SUA DISPONO
Dum ke la republikani spensi= s pekunio sen kontar lor tre disputita pre-elekto, la ekoficeskanta prezid= anto amasigis milito-trezoro superirante 100 milion dolari. Nun, kande lu = sucesis eliminar lua omna rivali Mitt Romney havas nova defio avan su : raj= untar Obama por la kurado a dolari-kapto. Il ja rekoltis 13 milion dolari,= ma lua rivala demokrato dum la sama tempo-periodo ganis 35 milion dolari= .
 
<= img border=3D"0" alt=3D"Mitt Romney a un nouveau d=C3=A9fi devant lui: ratt= raper Barack Obama dans la course aux dollars." src=3D"http://www.lefigaro.= fr/medias/2012/04/21/f3b1afd4-8b94-11e1-b0a5-27a13017d311-493x328.jpg">=
Mitt Rom= ney e Barack Obama
 
PAKISTAN / AVIONO APLASTESAS KUN 127 PERSONI EN LUA INTER= NAJO
= Ica mashino apartenanta a privata kompanio Pakistanana aplastesis proxim l= a chefurbo landal, Islamabad. Esas nula espero trovor posvivanto inter la = pasajeri e membri dil akompananta esquado, segun responsivo dil polico, pr= o ke la dicita aviono komplete destruktesis. Pakistan frapesis, du yari an= te nun, per altra katastrofo avional. Dum julio 2010, Airbus A 321 di la k= ompanio Airblue aplastesabis sur kolino proxim Islamabad, mortigante 152 p= ersoni. Lore anke la mala vetero esis la kauzo dil acidento.
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HISPANIA= / PRO LA KRIZO ICA LANDO NE PLUS ATRAKTAS LA ENMIGRANTI
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La arivi da resortisan= ti ne-Europana diminutas forte depos ke ca lando ne plus standas bone. Li = venabis por ameliorar lia situeso ekonomial pro ke li havis la revo di Orl= ando Hispana o simple la espero di plu bona vivo-kondicioni. Ma konfrontit= a a la krizo, la enmigranti desembarkita en Hispania retroiras a lia orig= ino-landi.
 
3D"B=C3=A2timents
Ne parfinita konstrukturo en Madr= id, aprilo 2012
 
Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::


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La lingvistiko kiel eksperimenta lingvoscienco, jam disig= ita el la filologio abstrakta kaj el tipaj pse=C5=ADdosciencaj literaturaj = pripensoj pri la lingvoj, certe havas dubojn, sed =C4=9Di anka=C5=AD havas = pruvitajn faktojn. La tiel nomata moderna latina lingvo ne estas vera ling= vo, kiel ne estas vera lingvo la tiel nomata moderna greka lingvo; kontrast= e, la moderna greka lingvo kaj la latinidaj lingvoj ja estas veraj lingvoj.= Evidente, multaj lingvoj estas lernitaj formale =C4=89e la skolo hodia=C5= =AD. Sed ne la plimulto. Jen la formale lernitaj lingvoj, jen la ne formale= lernitaj, ili =C4=89iuj spertas konstantajn =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dojn fonetiikaj, = semantikaj kaj morfosintaksaj sub la le=C4=9Do el la plej malgranda peno. J= en fakto kaj ne nur teorio. Ekzistas neniu reala lingvo (jen, kreata kaj su= btenita de spontanaj parolantoj) kiu ne =C5=9Dan=C4=9Du konstante, kaj spec= iale fonetike. La ekzemplo el la "moderna Latino" estos sufi=C4=89e klarig= a. Se ni parolas pri reala lingvo a=C5=AD dialekto latinida, ekzemple la f= ranca a=C5=AD la galega, ni povas difini realan prononcon, precipajn uzojn,= geografiajn varia=C4=B5ojn kaj tiel plu. Sed kiam ni parolas pri lingva fe= nomeno kiu, jam anta=C5=AD multaj jaroj, ne plu estas parolata, kiel la Lat= ino, =C4=89iu priskribo estas arbitra kaj finfine absurda. Ekzemple, se ni= parolas pri "klasika" Latino, ni devos arbitre elekti jen arkaikan formon,= kun vokativa kazo klare distingita de la nominativa kazo, jen posta formo = =C4=89irka=C5=AD la ekapero de la kristismo, kie preska=C5=AD =C4=89iam la = nominativo estas uzata anka=C5=AD kiel akuzativo, jen malfrua ekmezepoka fo= rmo, kiam la kazoj ankora=C5=AD ekzistas, sed forte simpligitaj kaj =C4=9De= nerale reduktitaj al la opono inter kazo subjekta kaj kazo objekta... kiel = en Esperanto kaj en la moderna rumana lngvo; krom tio, =C4=89e la mezepoko = la kazoj ne estas devigaj, =C4=89ar oni povas =C4=89iam ilin anstata=C5=ADi= per prepozicioj (a=C5=AD per tipa fraza ordo). Por la "klasika" greka ling= vo, kiu havas reale parolatan idon hodia=C5=AD, kun malpli granda morfosint= aksa disigo (kelkaj kazoj estas ankora=C5=AD kutime respektitaj) la elekto = estas ankora=C5=AD pli arbitra. Ni povas fiksi la "limon" jen en la presokr= ata epoko, jen en la sokrata a=C5=AD perikla epoko (=C4=89i tio estas la ko= muna limo) jen en la koineo parolata kiam Jesukristo predikas kaj lia mesa= =C4=9Do (elparolita en la aramea) estas konservita en simpligita greka ling= vo forte hebreita semantike, jen en la bizanca epoko, jen... E=C4=89 hodia= =C5=AD ekzistas "klasikista" tendenco en la moderna parolata greka lingvo. = La reala lingvistika fakto estas la orala komunikado inter homoj. Ja oni r= ajtas konsideri duarangajn faktojn =C4=89irka=C5=AD =C4=89i tiu centra fakt= o, kiel la skribsistemo a=C5=AD la oficialaj normoj de la standarditaj (=C5= =9Dablonitaj) lingvoj, sed sen la oralaj sistemoj de komunikado, la lingvis= tiko ne povas e=C4=89 ekzisti. Mi profitos cian ekzemplon pri la lernado p= or reiri al la eksperimentaj faktoj, kvankam per persona anekdoto. Ci, Kjel= o, kaj ciaj samlandanoj, malgra=C5=AD la hitlerismo, neniam travivis persek= uton kontra=C5=AD la uzo de la sveda lingvo, kiu klasike estas instruita = =C4=89e la svedaj lernejoj. Sed en mia nacio, Galegujo, la historio kaj =C4= =89efe la diktaturo nomata "frankismo" kiun mi suferis dum mia infaneco kaj= mia adoleskeco, malpermesis la kleran uzadon de la galega lingvo, kaj anka= =C5=AD =C4=9Dian formalan lernadon en la galegaj lernejoj. Mi, do, devis re= lerni formale la lingvon kiun mi ja parolis formale sen oficiala apogo. Sed= la galega lingvo ekzistis anta=C5=AD la moderna formado de la hodia=C5=AD = oficiala Re=C4=9Da Akademio Galega, kaj =C4=9Di evoluis ekde la mezepoko = =C4=9Dis nun. La galega lingvo, dum la nomataj "obskuraj jarcentoj" (XVI-XI= X) apena=C5=AD estis skribita kaj estis klare malaprobita de la politika ce= ntralismo hispankastila. Nur =C4=89e la komenco de la jarcento XIX nia kara= lingvo reaperis kiel formala lingvo de kulturo, parole kaj skribe. Sed =C4= =9Di =C4=89iam estis lingvo, =C4=89iam =C5=9Dan=C4=9Di=C4=9Dante per la le= =C4=9Do el la minimuma peno. La "moderna latina lingvo", evidente estis ne = parolita spontane sed ja jes skribita en Galegujo dum la obskuraj jarcentoj= , kaj =C4=9Di neniam =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dis... =C4=89ar =C4=9Di ne estas vere lin= gvo. Hodia=C5=AD la galega lingvo, feli=C4=89e, estas regule instruita en l= a naciaj lernejoj kaj havas regulan skriban uzadon. La malsameco a=C5=AD sa= meco inter la galega, la portugala kaj la brazila estas relativa kaj malgra= nda, kiel tipe anka=C5=AD inter la sveda, la dana kaj la norvegaj (bokmolo = kaj ninorsko). Tio kio gravas estas ke la reala komunikado inter parolantoj= de la galega, la portugala kaj la brazila estas flua, se ili regas plene u= nu varia=C4=B5on de la "luza" a=C5=AD "luzitana" lingvo. Malgra=C5=AD =C4= =89i tiuj malfacila=C4=B5oj, mi da=C5=ADre uzas por la filozofio kaj la kul= turo la galegan lingvon, la lingvon kiun mi preferas super =C4=89iuj aliaj,= jen teritoriaj, jen helpoplanitaj. Ja mi bezonis (kaj ankora=C5=AD bezonas= ) formalan postan lernadon por =C4=9Din regi plene; tie ci pravas. Sed la t= rajto de "ricevita" lingvo ne eliminas nek malgravigas la fundamentan trajt= on, la trajton el spontane parolita lingvo. Amike, el Aleksandro Ksavero K= asanovo Domingo, elektronika po=C5=9Dto trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo y= ahoo punkto es). ----- Originala mesa=C4=9Do ----- Mi konsentas kun Mat= hew, Chomsky naski=C4=9Dis en Usono kaj vivis =C4=89efe tie. Do li estu pro= noncata =C4=88omski kaj ne =C4=A4omski, kio povas esti uzata en la hejmland= o de liaj gepatroj. Komparu la komponiston Chopin, kiu francigis sian polan= familian nomon. Dvorak, la a=C5=ADtoro de la alternativa lokigo de la skri= bma=C5=9Dinaj klavoj havis =C4=89e=C4=A5devenon nomon, sed tio ne signifas = ke ni skribas Dvo=C5=99=C3=A1k! Poste pri la lingveco de esperanto estas = korekte noti ke la denaskaj parolantoj ne ludas la saman rolon kiel denaska= j parolantoj de la plej multaj =E2=80=93 eble =C4=89iuj =E2=80=93 etnaj lin= gvoj. Oni povus priskribi esperanton kiel "recivitan" lingvon same kiel oni= parolas pri la ricevita prononco de la brita varianto de la angla lingvo. = Dum la lastaj monatoj mi parolas esperanton =C4=89iutage, sed mi anka=C5= =AD parolas la polan kaj la uzo de esperanto ne diferenci=C4=9Das de la uzo= de iu alia etna lingvo, ekzemple la sveda. La eco de esperanto kiel "ver= a" lingvo similas iom la religiajn diskutojn, kiam oni ekzemple difinas la = kredon de la atestantoj de Jehovo kiel ne-kristana religio. En amba=C5=AD= kazoj oni decidas pri certaj kriterioj kiuj fordifinas la fenomenon kiun o= ni ne =C5=9Datas. Ni devas anka=C5=AD konsideri la fakton ke ni =C4=89iuj= lernis nian nacian lingvon en la lernejo. Ni pasas minimume 10 jarojn por = plene ellerni nain nacian lingvon. Sen la lernejo ni povas esti bonaj denas= kaj parolantoj de nia lingvo, sed ni ne povas uzi =C4=9Din plene! Oni do = povas diri ke la artefaritaj lingvoj estas eblaj "ricevitaj" lingvoj. Mi = opinias ke Alexandre Xavier pravas pri la termino "esperantisto", =C4=9Di h= avas "politikan" elementon en si. Fakte "esperantisto" nepre ne devas anka= =C5=AD esti "esperanton-parolanto" se oni estu tre detala! Amike Kjell R ------------A281231F29433 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Aliquando bonus dormitat Homerus

 =      Saluton, Kjelo.

       La lingvistiko kiel eksperimenta lin= gvoscienco, jam disigita el la filologio abstrakta kaj el tipaj pse=C5=ADdo= sciencaj literaturaj pripensoj pri la lingvoj, certe havas dubojn, sed =C4= =9Di anka=C5=AD havas pruvitajn faktojn.

       La tiel nomata moderna latina li= ngvo ne estas vera lingvo, kiel ne estas vera lingvo la tiel nomata moderna= greka lingvo; kontraste, la moderna greka lingvo kaj la latinidaj lingvoj = ja estas veraj lingvoj.

&= nbsp;      Evidente, multaj lingvoj estas lernitaj formale = =C4=89e la skolo hodia=C5=AD. Sed ne la plimulto. Jen la formale lernitaj l= ingvoj, jen la ne formale lernitaj, ili =C4=89iuj spertas konstantajn =C5= =9Dan=C4=9Dojn fonetiikaj, semantikaj kaj morfosintaksaj sub la le=C4=9Do e= l la plej malgranda peno. Jen fakto kaj ne nur teorio. Ekzistas neniu reala= lingvo (jen, kreata kaj subtenita de spontanaj parolantoj) kiu ne =C5=9Dan= =C4=9Du konstante, kaj speciale fonetike.

       La ekzemplo el la "moderna Lati= no" estos sufi=C4=89e klariga.

       Se ni parolas pri reala lingvo a=C5=AD dia= lekto latinida, ekzemple la franca a=C5=AD la galega, ni povas difini reala= n prononcon, precipajn uzojn, geografiajn varia=C4=B5ojn kaj tiel plu. Sed = kiam ni parolas pri lingva fenomeno kiu, jam anta=C5=AD multaj jaroj, ne pl= u estas parolata, kiel la Latino, =C4=89iu priskribo estas arbitra kaj finf= ine absurda.

   = ;    Ekzemple, se ni parolas pri "klasika" Latino, ni devos arbit= re elekti jen arkaikan formon, kun vokativa kazo klare distingita de la nom= inativa kazo, jen posta formo =C4=89irka=C5=AD la ekapero de la kristismo, = kie preska=C5=AD =C4=89iam la nominativo estas uzata anka=C5=AD kiel akuzat= ivo, jen malfrua ekmezepoka formo, kiam la kazoj ankora=C5=AD ekzistas, sed= forte simpligitaj kaj =C4=9Denerale reduktitaj al la opono inter kazo subj= ekta kaj kazo objekta... kiel en Esperanto kaj en la moderna rumana lngvo; = krom tio, =C4=89e la mezepoko la kazoj ne estas devigaj, =C4=89ar oni povas= =C4=89iam ilin anstata=C5=ADi per prepozicioj (a=C5=AD per tipa fraza ordo= ). Por la "klasika" greka lingvo, kiu havas reale parolatan idon hodia=C5= =AD, kun malpli granda morfosintaksa disigo (kelkaj kazoj estas ankora=C5= =AD kutime respektitaj) la elekto estas ankora=C5=AD pli arbitra. Ni povas = fiksi la "limon" jen en la presokrata epoko, jen en la sokrata a=C5=AD peri= kla epoko (=C4=89i tio estas la komuna limo) jen en la koineo parolata kiam= Jesukristo predikas kaj lia mesa=C4=9Do (elparolita en la aramea) estas ko= nservita en simpligita greka lingvo forte hebreita semantike, jen en la biz= anca epoko, jen... E=C4=89 hodia=C5=AD ekzistas "klasikista" tendenco en la= moderna parolata greka lingvo.

       La reala lingvistika fakto estas la orala= komunikado inter homoj. Ja oni rajtas konsideri duarangajn faktojn =C4=89i= rka=C5=AD =C4=89i tiu centra fakto, kiel la skribsistemo a=C5=AD la oficial= aj normoj de la standarditaj (=C5=9Dablonitaj) lingvoj, sed sen la oralaj s= istemoj de komunikado, la lingvistiko ne povas e=C4=89 ekzisti.

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       Mi profit= os cian ekzemplon pri la lernado por reiri al la eksperimentaj faktoj, kvan= kam per persona anekdoto. Ci, Kjelo, kaj ciaj samlandanoj, malgra=C5=AD la = hitlerismo, neniam travivis persekuton kontra=C5=AD la uzo de la sveda ling= vo, kiu klasike estas instruita =C4=89e la svedaj lernejoj. Sed en mia naci= o, Galegujo, la historio kaj =C4=89efe la diktaturo nomata "frankismo" kiun= mi suferis dum mia infaneco kaj mia adoleskeco, malpermesis la kleran uzad= on de la galega lingvo, kaj anka=C5=AD =C4=9Dian formalan lernadon en la ga= legaj lernejoj. Mi, do, devis relerni formale la lingvon kiun mi ja parolis= formale sen oficiala apogo. Sed la galega lingvo ekzistis anta=C5=AD la mo= derna formado de la hodia=C5=AD oficiala Re=C4=9Da Akademio Galega, kaj =C4= =9Di evoluis ekde la mezepoko =C4=9Dis nun. La galega lingvo, dum la nomata= j "obskuraj jarcentoj" (XVI-XIX) apena=C5=AD estis skribita kaj estis klare= malaprobita de la politika centralismo hispankastila. Nur =C4=89e la komen= co de la jarcento XIX nia kara lingvo reaperis kiel formala lingvo de kultu= ro, parole kaj skribe. Sed =C4=9Di =C4=89iam estis lingvo, =C4=89iam =C5=9D= an=C4=9Di=C4=9Dante per la le=C4=9Do el la minimuma peno. La "moderna latin= a lingvo", evidente estis ne parolita spontane sed ja jes skribita en Galeg= ujo dum la obskuraj jarcentoj, kaj =C4=9Di neniam =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dis... =C4= =89ar =C4=9Di ne estas vere lingvo. Hodia=C5=AD la galega lingvo, feli=C4= =89e, estas regule instruita en la naciaj lernejoj kaj havas regulan skriba= n uzadon. La malsameco a=C5=AD sameco inter la galega, la portugala kaj la = brazila estas relativa kaj malgranda, kiel tipe anka=C5=AD inter la sveda, = la dana kaj la norvegaj (bokmolo kaj ninorsko). Tio kio gravas estas ke la = reala komunikado inter parolantoj de la galega, la portugala kaj la brazila= estas flua, se ili regas plene unu varia=C4=B5on de la "luza" a=C5=AD "luz= itana" lingvo.

  &nb= sp;    Malgra=C5=AD =C4=89i tiuj malfacila=C4=B5oj, mi da=C5=ADre= uzas por la filozofio kaj la kulturo la galegan lingvon, la lingvon kiun m= i preferas super =C4=89iuj aliaj, jen teritoriaj, jen helpoplanitaj. Ja mi = bezonis (kaj ankora=C5=AD bezonas) formalan postan lernadon por =C4=9Din re= gi plene; tie ci pravas. Sed la trajto de "ricevita" lingvo ne eliminas nek= malgravigas la fundamentan trajton, la trajton el spontane parolita lingvo= .

      &n= bsp;Amike, el Aleksandro Ksavero Kasanovo Domingo, elektronika po=C5=9Dto t= rigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punkto es).


       ----- Originala mesa=C4=9Do -----


       Mi konsentas kun Mathew, Cho= msky naski=C4=9Dis en Usono kaj vivis =C4=89efe tie. Do li estu prononcata = =C4=88omski kaj ne =C4=A4omski, kio povas esti uzata en la hejmlando de lia= j gepatroj. Komparu la komponiston Chopin, kiu francigis sian polan familia= n nomon. Dvorak, la a=C5=ADtoro de la alternativa lokigo de la skribma=C5= =9Dinaj klavoj havis =C4=89e=C4=A5devenon nomon, sed tio ne signifas ke ni = skribas Dvo=C5=99=C3=A1k! 

       Poste pri la lingveco de esperanto estas = korekte noti ke la denaskaj parolantoj ne ludas la saman rolon kiel denaska= j parolantoj de la plej multaj =E2=80=93 eble =C4=89iuj =E2=80=93 etnaj lin= gvoj. Oni povus priskribi esperanton kiel "recivitan" lingvon same kiel oni= parolas pri la ricevita prononco de la brita varianto de la angla lingvo.&= nbsp;

     = ;  Dum la lastaj monatoj mi parolas esperanton =C4=89iutage, sed mi an= ka=C5=AD parolas la polan kaj la uzo de esperanto ne diferenci=C4=9Das de l= a uzo de iu alia etna lingvo, ekzemple la sveda. 

       La eco de esperan= to kiel "vera" lingvo similas iom la religiajn diskutojn, kiam oni ekzemple= difinas la kredon de la atestantoj de Jehovo kiel ne-kristana religio.&nbs= p;

      &= nbsp;En amba=C5=AD kazoj oni decidas pri certaj kriterioj kiuj fordifinas l= a fenomenon kiun oni ne =C5=9Datas. 

       Ni devas anka=C5=AD konsideri l= a fakton ke ni =C4=89iuj lernis nian nacian lingvon en la lernejo. Ni pasas= minimume 10 jarojn por plene ellerni nain nacian lingvon. Sen la lernejo n= i povas esti bonaj denaskaj parolantoj de nia lingvo, sed ni ne povas uzi = =C4=9Din plene! 

&nb= sp;      Oni do povas diri ke la artefaritaj lingvoj estas e= blaj "ricevitaj" lingvoj. 

       Mi opinias ke Alexandre Xavier pravas pri= la termino "esperantisto", =C4=9Di havas "politikan" elementon en si. Fakt= e "esperantisto" nepre ne devas anka=C5=AD esti "esperanton-parolanto" se o= ni estu tre detala! 

=        Amike

       Kjell R

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E Nausithoos, si= mila a Deo, forduktis li de-ibe ed instalis li en la insulo Skherie, fore = del altra homi. E lu konstruktigis murego cirkum l'urbo, same kam domi e t= empli dil Dei e partigis l'agri. Ma lore, ja domtita dal Ker, il decensabi= s che Aides. Nun regnis Alkinoos, instruktita pri la sajeso dal Dei. Ed At= hene, la Deino havanta klar okuli, iris ad ilua domo, dum meditar la retrov= eno dal grandanma Odissevs. El eniris quik la chambro ornita ube dormis la= yuna virgino simila a la Nemortivini per la gracio e la beleso, nome Naus= ikaa, filino dil grandanma Alkinoos. Du servistini same bela kam la Kharit= i, stacis an amba lateri dil solio, e la pordi brilanta klozesis. Athene, = quale suflo dil vento, proximeskis a la lito dil yuna virgino,e, mantenant= e su super elua kapo, el parolis ad elu, simila a la filiino dil famoza ma= risto Dymas, elqua esis same evoza kam elu e quan el amis. Simila ad ica y= unino, Athene havanta okuli klara parolis tale : =C2=A0 (Duro sequos) ---2019397978-1443557530-1335224550=:964444 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Tale dormis ibe la pacienta e deala Odissevs, domtita dal dormo e da la= fatigeso, dum ke Athene iris al urbo ed inter la populo dil homi Phaiakia= na habitinta olim granda Hyperie, apud le Kyklopes insolenta qui opresis l= i, pro ke iti esis multe plu forta kam li. E Nausithoos, simila a Deo= , forduktis li de-ibe ed instalis li en la insulo Skherie, fore del altra = homi. E lu konstruktigis murego cirkum l'urbo, same kam domi e templi dil = Dei e partigis l'agri. Ma lore, ja domtita dal Ker, il decensabis che Aide= s. Nun regnis Alkinoos, instruktita pri la sajeso dal Dei. Ed Athene, la D= eino havanta klar okuli, iris ad ilua domo, dum meditar la retroveno dal g= randanma Odissevs. El eniris quik la chambro ornita ube dormis la yuna vir= gino simila a la Nemortivini per la gracio e la beleso, nome Nausikaa, fili= no dil grandanma Alkinoos. Du servistini same bela kam la Khariti, stacis = an amba lateri dil solio, e la pordi brilanta klozesis.
<= div>Athene, quale suflo dil= vento, proximeskis a la lito dil yuna virgino,e, mantenante su super elua= kapo, el parolis ad elu, simila a la filiino dil famoza maristo Dymas, el= qua esis same evoza kam elu e quan el amis. Simila ad ica yunino, Athene h= avanta okuli klara parolis tale :
 
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Tu yuste skribe pri isto omna, ke kada konkreta artific= iala lingua no evoluciona libere. Tamen, Internacionala Auxiliara Lingua li= bere e nedependante existe in su multa dialektes. Pro to posta_Mundi existe= . Certena dialektes desapara, altras nova apara. Isto es li voye de IAL. Es= perantistes, Idistes, Interlingua-istes etc. pova asertar, ke lesi frostiza= ta e rigida alko es li finala e maxim vera forma de IAL. Same, un habitante= de un freneza dome pova asertar, ke ol es li Salvator Mundi. Isto ya es no= plu kam un fantazie. Tamen Interlinguistika kom un fenomene existenta dura= ntu sekules, e forsan plu longe, es un reala fenomene nedependanta de autoe= steblisata akademias e cetera iluzioni kozes. Nur, li chagreno es, ke tro p= oka antropes komprene isto. Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, = Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo scriv: > > Saluton, Kjelo= . > La lingvistiko kiel eksperimenta lingvoscienco, jam disigita el la fil= ologio abstrakta kaj el tipaj pse=C5=ADdosciencaj literaturaj pripensoj pri= la lingvoj, certe havas dubojn, sed =C4=9Di anka=C5=AD havas pruvitajn fak= tojn. > La tiel nomata moderna latina lingvo ne estas vera lingvo, kiel ne= estas vera lingvo la tiel nomata moderna greka lingvo; kontraste, la moder= na greka lingvo kaj la latinidaj lingvoj ja estas veraj lingvoj. > Evident= e, multaj lingvoj estas lernitaj formale =C4=89e la skolo hodia=C5=AD. Sed = ne la plimulto. Jen la formale lernitaj lingvoj, jen la ne formale lernitaj= , ili =C4=89iuj spertas konstantajn =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dojn fonetiikaj, semantika= j kaj morfosintaksaj sub la le=C4=9Do el la plej malgranda peno. Jen fakto = kaj ne nur teorio. Ekzistas neniu reala lingvo (jen, kreata kaj subtenita d= e spontanaj parolantoj) kiu ne =C5=9Dan=C4=9Du konstante, kaj speciale fone= tike. > La ekzemplo el la "moderna Latino" estos sufi=C4=89e klariga. > S= e ni parolas pri reala lingvo a=C5=AD dialekto latinida, ekzemple la franca= a=C5=AD la galega, ni povas difini realan prononcon, precipajn uzojn, geog= rafiajn varia=C4=B5ojn kaj tiel plu. Sed kiam ni parolas pri lingva fenomen= o kiu, jam anta=C5=AD multaj jaroj, ne plu estas parolata, kiel la Latino, = =C4=89iu priskribo estas arbitra kaj finfine absurda. > Ekzemple, se ni pa= rolas pri "klasika" Latino, ni devos arbitre elekti jen arkaikan formon, ku= n vokativa kazo klare distingita de la nominativa kazo, jen posta formo =C4= =89irka=C5=AD la ekapero de la kristismo, kie preska=C5=AD =C4=89iam la nom= inativo estas uzata anka=C5=AD kiel akuzativo, jen malfrua ekmezepoka formo= , kiam la kazoj ankora=C5=AD ekzistas, sed forte simpligitaj kaj =C4=9Dener= ale reduktitaj al la opono inter kazo subjekta kaj kazo objekta... kiel en = Esperanto kaj en la moderna rumana lngvo; krom tio, =C4=89e la mezepoko la = kazoj ne estas devigaj, =C4=89ar oni povas =C4=89iam ilin anstata=C5=ADi pe= r prepozicioj (a=C5=AD per tipa fraza ordo). Por la "klasika" greka lingvo,= kiu havas reale parolatan idon hodia=C5=AD, kun malpli granda morfosintaks= a disigo (kelkaj kazoj estas ankora=C5=AD kutime respektitaj) la elekto est= as ankora=C5=AD pli arbitra. Ni povas fiksi la "limon" jen en la presokrata= epoko, jen en la sokrata a=C5=AD perikla epoko (=C4=89i tio estas la komun= a limo) jen en la koineo parolata kiam Jesukristo predikas kaj lia mesa=C4= =9Do (elparolita en la aramea) estas konservita en simpligita greka lingvo = forte hebreita semantike, jen en la bizanca epoko, jen... E=C4=89 hodia=C5= =AD ekzistas "klasikista" tendenco en la moderna parolata greka lingvo. > = La reala lingvistika fakto estas la orala komunikado inter homoj. Ja oni ra= jtas konsideri duarangajn faktojn =C4=89irka=C5=AD =C4=89i tiu centra fakto= , kiel la skribsistemo a=C5=AD la oficialaj normoj de la standarditaj (=C5= =9Dablonitaj) lingvoj, sed sen la oralaj sistemoj de komunikado, la lingvis= tiko ne povas e=C4=89 ekzisti. > Mi profitos cian ekzemplon pri la lernado= por reiri al la eksperimentaj faktoj, kvankam per persona anekdoto. Ci, Kj= elo, kaj ciaj samlandanoj, malgra=C5=AD la hitlerismo, neniam travivis pers= ekuton kontra=C5=AD la uzo de la sveda lingvo, kiu klasike estas instruita = =C4=89e la svedaj lernejoj. Sed en mia nacio, Galegujo, la historio kaj =C4= =89efe la diktaturo nomata "frankismo" kiun mi suferis dum mia infaneco kaj= mia adoleskeco, malpermesis la kleran uzadon de la galega lingvo, kaj anka= =C5=AD =C4=9Dian formalan lernadon en la galegaj lernejoj. Mi, do, devis re= lerni formale la lingvon kiun mi ja parolis formale sen oficiala apogo. Sed= la galega lingvo ekzistis anta=C5=AD la moderna formado de la hodia=C5=AD = oficiala Re=C4=9Da Akademio Galega, kaj =C4=9Di evoluis ekde la mezepoko = =C4=9Dis nun. La galega lingvo, dum la nomataj "obskuraj jarcentoj" (XVI-XI= X) apena=C5=AD estis skribita kaj estis klare malaprobita de la politika ce= ntralismo hispankastila. Nur =C4=89e la komenco de la jarcento XIX nia kara= lingvo reaperis kiel formala lingvo de kulturo, parole kaj skribe. Sed =C4= =9Di =C4=89iam estis lingvo, =C4=89iam =C5=9Dan=C4=9Di=C4=9Dante per la le= =C4=9Do el la minimuma peno. La "moderna latina lingvo", evidente estis ne = parolita spontane sed ja jes skribita en Galegujo dum la obskuraj jarcentoj= , kaj =C4=9Di neniam =C5=9Dan=C4=9Dis... =C4=89ar =C4=9Di ne estas vere lin= gvo. Hodia=C5=AD la galega lingvo, feli=C4=89e, estas regule instruita en l= a naciaj lernejoj kaj havas regulan skriban uzadon. La malsameco a=C5=AD sa= meco inter la galega, la portugala kaj la brazila estas relativa kaj malgra= nda, kiel tipe anka=C5=AD inter la sveda, la dana kaj la norvegaj (bokmolo = kaj ninorsko). Tio kio gravas estas ke la reala komunikado inter parolantoj= de la galega, la portugala kaj la brazila estas flua, se ili regas plene u= nu varia=C4=B5on de la "luza" a=C5=AD "luzitana" lingvo. > Malgra=C5=AD = =C4=89i tiuj malfacila=C4=B5oj, mi da=C5=ADre uzas por la filozofio kaj la = kulturo la galegan lingvon, la lingvon kiun mi preferas super =C4=89iuj ali= aj, jen teritoriaj, jen helpoplanitaj. Ja mi bezonis (kaj ankora=C5=AD bezo= nas) formalan postan lernadon por =C4=9Din regi plene; tie ci pravas. Sed l= a trajto de "ricevita" lingvo ne eliminas nek malgravigas la fundamentan tr= ajton, la trajton el spontane parolita lingvo. > Amike, el Aleksandro Ksav= ero Kasanovo Domingo, elektronika po=C5=9Dto trigrupo@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 53831 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2012 21:19:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Apr 2012 21:19:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mta2.eidsiva.net) (82.147.40.138) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2012 21:19:28 -0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhEFAOxpmE9SkygDgWdsb2JhbABFgkZXgkuZfDOIKAGIDoEiAQEWJieCCQEBAgIBIwpRCwtCAgIpHBIGDwQBEQOHbAMGCQeoSYkgA4ldj0g1YwSUMgGBSIERiEeJUYFSBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,483,1330902000"; d="scan'208,217";a="43226019" X-Received: from mail.bbnett.no (HELO bbnett.no) ([82.147.40.3]) by mtc2.eidsiva.net with ESMTP; 25 Apr 2012 23:19:26 +0200 X-Received: from ip-62-0-248-87.eidsiva.net ([87.248.0.62] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by bbnett.no with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SN9c9-00010k-6c for posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:19:05 +0200 References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4EB3D9AA-2BEA-41D8-856C-8541CFCD1DEA X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9B176) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <514C9CFA-863A-4EF6-A3D7-5F05E78F1C35@...> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:19:25 +0200 To: "posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Osmund Aukland Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] RE: Bazal (mil radik), bazal semane X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=337052799 --Apple-Mail-4EB3D9AA-2BEA-41D8-856C-85441CFCD1DEA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Car Rosto! Si, ance io dubite ce Thor e Torah son del mesme radize, ma es p= osibile. Le Torsdag es le mesme die ce le Jovedie, et asi Thor et Iowi pote= eser identic. Un scripte ancian runic ha le mesaje: GUTANIOWIHAILAG, o GOT= AN IOWI HAILAG. Es scribite in le Futhark Nordic Ancian, le con 24 runes. I= OWI pote eser identic con IOWE (YHWH). Le runes e lor significazion es pro = me multe interesante. Iles ha un structur similar al alef-beit paleo-hebree= , ma non identic. Un del libros le plus interesantes in le studie del runes= in mi estomate es le "Runic Astrology" per Nigel Pennick, ISBN 1 898307 45= 8. Et ance le "Runer" per Kjell Aartun, ISBN 82-530-1677-8 ce reporte le r= eserche al posibile radizes hebree del scriptes runic in Scandinavia. Con s= alutes cordial! Osmund Osmund Aukland Den 21. apr. 2012 kl. 16:00 skrev= "Rosto" : > Saluto, Osmund! > Yo tre dubit= a, ke hebrei Torah rave relate al deo Thor. Fonetika no es fidela indikator= in tala kazes. Yo tamen inkontrav informacione, ke germanik runes forsan d= evena de un semitik alfabete. To es plu simila a un veritate. Kuankam, rune= s es un koze enigmata, e diversa versiones de lesi deveno existe. > Runes e= s un koze interesanta por interlinguistika, pro ke kada rune have su signif= iko. Anke mantik praktika kun runes es populara, kel uza simbolik signifiko= de runes. Yo nun tradukav li versione de magik signifiko de runes konosata= in Rusia, yo metev isto hike: > http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Magik_uz= o_de_germanik_runes > Anke yo nun videv in internet simila koze in Italiani= lingua. Semble, signifiko es kelke diferenta, ma jenerale plu-min simila. = > Es interesanta, kara Osmund, ko tu pensa pri isto, eske tala kozes have a= lkual sense? Sembla a me, ke tu have interese pri tala kozes. Anke multa ru= nes have su dees-patrones, yo save, ke in li materiale kel yo nun tradukav = li informacione es nekompleta e forsan anke ne justa, ma yo espera kontinua= r studio del simbolika runik ex altra fontes. > > Rosto. > > --- En post= a_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Osmund Aukland escribi=C3=B3: > > > = > Car Rosto! > > Multe grazii pro tu interesante response. Si, il ha un par= alelitate intra le nomini nordic/germanic/ saxon e le nomini roman/grec del= diei e deitati del septimane. Tu menzione le similitate e le diferenzie Od= in verso Mercur. Odin non ha ule coneczion mercantil.Thor era originalmente= le prime del =C3=86sir (deitati) e su die "Thors-dag" era le die plus sanc= te. Il es posible ce le =C3=86sir son arivate hic al Nord ex Kaukasus et er= a hebrei in lingue e cultur previemente. In tal case Odin pote eser le titu= le Adin (senior). Le alfabet proto hebraic habeva su litere Ayin como nostr= e O, i.e. un zircule. E Thor pote eser le Torah-deitate. In iste maniere lo= r religion pote eser un mixtur del grec/romanic e del hebree. > > Ance lor = calender era un del 364 diei, 13 mensi con 4 septimani in cate mense. Io cr= ede ce lor prime septimane del ano era le un ce containava le ecuinox verna= l, o forsan le solstizie hibernal. Le scripturi de Snorre Sturlason, "Heims= kiringla" et "Edda" describe como iste deitati era originalmente humani nor= mali, ma regini e reginai intra du populi diferenti, viz le =C3=86sir e le = Vanir. > > Forsan es iste historie ultra le thema discutate hic, et in tal = case pardona me per favor. > > E finalmente: Multe grazii pro admiter me i= n vostre discusion interesante. > > > > Osmund > > > > --Apple-Mail-4EB3D9AA-2BEA-41D8-856C-85441CFCD1DEA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Car Rosto!
Si, = ance io dubite ce Thor e Torah son del mesme radize, ma es posibile. Le Tor= sdag es le mesme die ce le Jovedie, et asi Thor et Iowi pote eser identic. = Un scripte ancian runic ha le mesaje: GUTANIOWIHAILAG, o GOTAN IOWI HAILAG.= Es scribite in le Futhark Nordic Ancian, le con 24 runes. IOWI pote eser i= dentic con IOWE (YHWH).
Le runes e lor significazion es pro me mu= lte interesante. Iles ha un structur similar al alef-beit paleo-hebree, ma = non identic. Un del libros le plus interesantes in le studie del runes in m= i estomate es le "Runic Astrology" per Nigel Pennick, ISBN 1 898307 45 8. E= t ance le "Runer" per Kjell Aartun, ISBN 82-530-1677-8 ce reporte le reserc= he al posibile radizes hebree del scriptes runic in Scandinavia.
= Con salutes cordial!
Osmund


Osmund A= ukland


Den 21. apr. 2012 kl. 16:00 skrev "Rost= o" <rostislav-levchenko= @...>:

=  

Saluto, Osmund!
Yo tre dubita, ke h= ebrei Torah rave relate al deo Thor. Fonetika no es fidela indikator in tal= a kazes. Yo tamen inkontrav informacione, ke germanik runes forsan devena d= e un semitik alfabete. To es plu simila a un veritate. Kuankam, runes es un= koze enigmata, e diversa versiones de lesi deveno existe.
Runes es un = koze interesanta por interlinguistika, pro ke kada rune have su signifiko. = Anke mantik praktika kun runes es populara, kel uza simbolik signifiko de r= unes. Yo nun tradukav li versione de magik signifiko de runes konosata in R= usia, yo metev isto hike:
http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Magik_uzo_de= _germanik_runes
Anke yo nun videv in internet simila koze in Italia= ni lingua. Semble, signifiko es kelke diferenta, ma jenerale plu-min simila= .
Es interesanta, kara Osmund, ko tu pensa pri isto, eske tala kozes ha= ve alkual sense? Sembla a me, ke tu have interese pri tala kozes. Anke mult= a runes have su dees-patrones, yo save, ke in li materiale kel yo nun tradu= kav li informacione es nekompleta e forsan anke ne justa, ma yo espera kont= inuar studio del simbolika runik ex altra fontes.

Rosto.

= --- En posta_Mundi@yahoog= roups.com, Osmund Aukland escribi=C3=B3:
> > Car Rosto!
> Multe grazii pro tu interesante response. Si, i= l ha un paralelitate intra le nomini nordic/germanic/ saxon e le nomini rom= an/grec del diei e deitati del septimane. Tu menzione le similitate e le di= ferenzie Odin verso Mercur. Odin non ha ule coneczion mercantil.Thor era or= iginalmente le prime del =C3=86sir (deitati) e su die "Thors-dag" era le di= e plus sancte. Il es posible ce le =C3=86sir son arivate hic al Nord ex Kau= kasus et era hebrei in lingue e cultur previemente. In tal case Odin pote e= ser le titule Adin (senior). Le alfabet proto hebraic habeva su litere Ayin= como nostre O, i.e. un zircule. E Thor pote eser le Torah-deitate. In iste= maniere lor religion pote eser un mixtur del grec/romanic e del hebree. > Ance lor calender era un del 364 diei, 13 mensi con 4 septimani in c= ate mense. Io crede ce lor prime septimane del ano era le un ce containava = le ecuinox vernal, o forsan le solstizie hibernal. Le scripturi de Snorre S= turlason, "Heimskiringla" et "Edda" describe como iste deitati era original= mente humani normali, ma regini e reginai intra du populi diferenti, viz le= =C3=86sir e le Vanir.
> Forsan es iste historie ultra le thema disc= utate hic, et in tal case pardona me per favor.
> E finalmente: Mul= te grazii pro admiter me in vostre discusion interesante.
>
>= ; Osmund
>

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Peano, inkludante materiales = de anciena Academia pro Interlingua. Yo no trovav ta CD in li rete. Tamen= un antrop kel nomina se Xavigotski metev nemulta peces ex li jurnal "Discu= ssiones" kom texte, hike, e sekuente: https://sites.google.com/site/acade= miaprointerlingua190913/1909-aug-n-1/p-1-7 In materiales de April, 1913 yo= renkontrav un interesanta koze, un kurta texte in 10 linguas auxilara (yen= posta_Mundi 99 yares ante nun!): "1. Reform-Neutral, versione de W. Rosen= berger: Progress. =96 I av [ancianitet de] septent annui. In mie prim ann= ui i vognossav homi, queli avav alor tant annui, quant i av nu. Quande ili= parlav di lor predecessori, ili dicav: =AB A! si nostr patri revenier=E9 s= ur terr, quante ili esser=E9 surprised per rels-ruti co locomotivi rapid; p= er cel balloni, in queli homi audacios [temer] risque lanciar se versu ciel= i; per cel navi sine velage ni remi, queli solemente el fo facie marchar! = =BB. 2. Interlingua, verso per U. Basso: Progressu. =96 Ecce me septuagen= ario. In meo primo annos, me habe cognito de homines, que habeba, in illo = tempore, etate que me habe hodie. Quando illos loqueba de suo progenitores= , illos diceba: =AB Oh! si nostro patres reveni in terra, quale esser=E8 su= o stupefactione ante ce ferrovias cum rapido locomotivas, ante ce aerostato= s in que de homines audace ausa lanceare se versus celo: ante ce naves sine= velo nec remo, que igne solo fac procedere! =BB. 3. Auli, per E. de Wahl:= Progress. =96 Mi nun have setenti annuso En mu un=E9sim annus mi conossei= homes, quel havei alor li et=E0 quel mi have hodie. Quande ili parlai de = lor antecessores ili dii: =AB Ah! si nor patres revenir=E9 sur li terre, qu= al esser=E9 lor astonation avan cel ferrivies con locomotives rapid; avan c= el ballones en quel homes audaciosi osa elevar-se ad li cieles; avan cel na= ves sin veles e rames, queles li foy sol fa ir. =BB 4. Romanal, per Boning= ue: Progresse. =96 Ecce yo fian septentero. En mi primi annes yo cogniton= homos qui haban alor l'eve quel yo han hodie. Quan ilos parlaban di lor a= ncestros ilos dictaban: =AB Ah! si ni patros reveniarian sur terre, qual no= n estarian lor astonatione pre cel fervies con rapidi locomotives, pre cel = ballones en quel homes audaciosi osan se levar ad cieles, pre cel naves sin= veles nec rames, quel solum igne propulsan! =BB. 5. Omnez, per Bond. Pro= gresio. =96 Hik mi esa sepentu! In me prim anus, mi konosi homes, qui evi = alor tam quam mi eva hodi. Quando les paroli di loro anteparentes les dici= : =AB Ah! si nostro pateres revenare sur ter, qual ne esare loro surprizio = avan isto fervias kon rapid lokomotives; avan isto airnaves in que homes au= dace riska lancer se versu ciel: avan naves sine seles [sails], nek remes, = quem unike fok faca ier. =BB 6. Perfekt, per Dr. Hartl; Progress. =96 En = eo septuagenar. In meo primo anns, eo novi homs, qvi habeba tunc aetat qve= eo habe nunc. Qvando ils parlaba de suo antecessores, ils diceba: =AB Ah!= si nostro patres revenier=E8 in terra, qval non esser=E8 suo extonament an= te ist viaferreas ad locomotivas r=E0pidas: ante ist ballons in qve homines= audaces aude lancearse vers coelo; ante ist naves sine velo nec remo, qve = solo foco taci vadere! =BB. 7. Esperanto, per S. Linardi: Progreso. =96 J= en mi estas sepdekjara. Dum miaj unuaj jaroj mi konis homojn kiuj tiam hav= is la aghon kiun mi havas hodiau. Kiam ilis parolis pri siaj prapatroj, il= i diris: =AB Ho! se niaj patroj revenus sur la teron, kia estus ilia miro a= ntau tiuj fervojoi kaj rapidaj lokomotivoj, antau tiuj aerostatoj en kiuj m= altimegaj homoj kuraghas sin jheti al la chielo; antau tiuj shipoj sen velo= j kaj sen remiloj kiujn la sola fajro antauenirigas! =BB. 8. Europal, per = Weisbart. Progrese. =96 Videt me sepdezanuere. In mei unti vive-anues i k= onit homes vi havit dan de olditee vi i havan hoit. Ven es parlit konsern = esi previvantes, en sayit: =AB Ah! ven usi patres retrokomur ad erte, kual = ya sur esi astone kaus dis fervayes mid rapid lokornotives; kaus dis balone= s per vi homes kurajoni riskan si elanis kontra de firmamente; kaus dis nav= es sen seiles non remes, vi sol de faire makan marchir. =BB 9. Kosmopolito= , Ren=E9 de Saussure. Progreso. =96 Yen mi esas sepdekyaranu. En mies une= sman yaron mi konocis homon, quin tende havis la evo, i qui mi havas nun. = Quende li parolis pri sies praavon, li diris: =AB Ha! se nies patron rivenu= s sur tero, quala esus lies astoneso ante tan fer=ADvoyon kun rapidan lokom= otivon; ante tan aershipon, en quin a=FAdacozan homon riskas isi lansi al l= a cielon; ante tan senseglan ey senramilan shipon, i quin fayro sola propul= sas! =BB. 10. Ido, per B. S. Progresado. =96 Me esas sepdek-yara. En mea= unesma yari me konocis homi, qui esis lore tam evoza kam me esas ca-die. = Kande li parolis pri sua ancestri li dicis: =AB Ha! se nia patri rivenus ad= sur la tero, quante li astonesus avan (o pro) ta fervoyi kun rapid-lokomot= ivi; avan ta balonegi en qui homi temerara audacas springar vers la cielo; = avan ta bateli sen seglo nek remilo, quin nur fairo propulsas! =BB" Rosto.= From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10457 Return-Path: X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=7cZ9CeIRQ1uRpgKOId5G6GMu3KXEJY59wo6Dhh931vi5VQM X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------E0184178341FBE23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Omna linguala korektiguri bonvenesas!) La krizi ekonomiala Hodie, ya= ro 2012, nulu dubas ke existas severa krizo ekonomiala en la mondo. Nature,= la dextristi kulpas pri la krizo la sinistristi, e la sinistristi la dextr= isti. En la krizi ekonomiala previa, anke la dextristi kulpis la sinistrist= i, ed en la krizi ekonomiala futura, la sinistristi kulpos sendubite la dex= tristi; e tale cetere. Tre klare, la sektismo o partisismo ne helpas ni po= r komprenar (e solvar) la krizi ekonomiala. La problemo esas acensar de la = anekdoto efemera aden ampla perspektivo. Ma, kun ampla perspektivo, la kom= prenuro e la solvuro de la periodala krizi ekonomiala esas teorie facila. = Tam teorie facila kam desfacila praktike! Omna animalo, do anke la homo, h= avas ekologiala limiti ed ekologiala equilibri che sua denseso demografiala= e che sua strukturo sociala kom speco biologiala. Kande la animalo studiat= a havas equilibro demografiala e sociala, olua speco, generale, ne sufras p= ovreso. Yen: ol ne sufras famino, konjestiono demografiala, nek troa frigor= o o troa kaloro pro manko da apta vivo-spaco ed apta vivo-truo (domo). Kand= e un animalo havas abundanta alimento, spaco e domo, ol esas richa. Kom ali= mento, la biologisti inkluzas la aero pura e la aquo pura. Singla speco ex= animali povas bezonar altra specifa produkti o kondicioni biologiala; exem= ple, la merluchi bezonas la aquo saloza ex la maro por natar e respirar, aq= uo saloza qua esus veneno por la cervi, qui ne povas natar, nek povas respi= rar o drinkar aquo saloza. La cervi bezonas aero ne kontaminita por respira= r, marchar o kurar ed aquo dolca (ne saloza) por drinkar. Anke la homo bez= onas specifa produkti e kondicioni por vivar. Precipue, ol bezonas la kultu= ro e la instrumento fundamentala de la kulturo: la linguo. La homo esas ani= malo qua, sempre animalo!, tamen havas un traito propra ne tre komuna kun l= a altra animali: ke la homo reflektas o meditas pri la senco lasta de sua r= elati kun la altra homi, pri la naturo lasta de la mondo ube ol vivas, pri = la relato inter sua anmo e sua korpo, e pri sua felico. Do la homo bezonas = la produkti e kondicioni por parolar (o skribar): paco relativa, sen militi= ; lernado orala de adminime un linguo o dialekto; produkti, sistemi ed ins= titucuri por konservar e propagar la linguo kun olua kulturo, kom libri, sk= oli (sive lerneyi, sive sistemi da doktrino), laboratorii ciencala, e tale = pluse. Kande la homo havas abundante ica produkti e kondicioni, kande la h= omo havas abundante sua alimento, sua aero, sua aquo, sua spaco ube vivar, = sua kaverni o domi e sua kulturo, ol esas richa. Evidente, do, la motivo f= undamentala de la povreso esas la desequilibro. E la problemo, hodie, esas = ke nia religii, nia politiki (yen, ideologii politikala) e nia ekonomii baz= esas che la desequilibro. La equilibro destruktus nia religii, nia politiki= e nia ekonomii. La produkti da nia kulturo, nun, esas mem veneno por ni ko= m speco biologiala! La tasko maxim desfacila, ma necesa nun!, esas redukta= r e riequilibrar; yen la vera voyo por ke ni omna esez richa. Por ne esar = tro abstrakta, me donos exemplo pri ica esayo ipsa. Me bezonis linguo por r= edaktar, do me elektis linguo facila, irga-loke skribebla e lektebla, qua n= e implikas longa e kustoza voyaji a nacioni stranjera por lernar olu, ma qu= a esas linguo internaciona. Che mea komputero, me skribis per olda ma tre u= tila softwaro*, olim kustoza tamen abandonita e gratuita hodie, qua nur bez= onas kelka adapturi por la moderna komputeri, adapturi sen kusto ekonomiala= ma poke komplikata. Mea softwaro skribas, formatigas la texto e konservas = periode mea esayo, mem se mea komputero paneus. Yen, do, suceso ekonomiala= e kulturala por me ipsa, ma probable un dizastro ekonomiala e sociala se m= ilioni da komputero-uzanti e da linguo-lernanti imitos me, ka ne? Amike, A= leshandre Shavier Kasanova Domingo. Se la lektero deziras komentar ica medi= turo, yen mea posto elektronikala: trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo = punto es). ------------E0184178341FBE23 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable La krizi ekonomiala.

       (Omna linguala kor= ektiguri bonvenesas!)


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       Hodie, yaro 2012, nulu= dubas ke existas severa krizo ekonomiala en la mondo. Nature, la dextristi= kulpas pri la krizo la sinistristi, e la sinistristi la dextristi. En la k= rizi ekonomiala previa, anke la dextristi kulpis la sinistristi, ed en la k= rizi ekonomiala futura, la sinistristi kulpos sendubite la dextristi; e tal= e cetere.

    &n= bsp;  Tre klare, la sektismo o partisismo ne helpas ni por komprenar (= e solvar) la krizi ekonomiala. La problemo esas acensar de la anekdoto efem= era aden ampla perspektivo.

       Ma, kun ampla perspektivo, la komprenuro e la = solvuro de la periodala  krizi ekonomiala esas teorie facila. Tam teor= ie facila kam desfacila praktike!

       Omna animalo, do anke la homo, havas e= kologiala limiti ed ekologiala equilibri che sua denseso demografiala e che= sua strukturo sociala kom speco biologiala. Kande la animalo studiata hava= s equilibro demografiala e sociala, olua speco, generale, ne sufras povreso= . Yen: ol ne sufras famino, konjestiono demografiala, nek troa frigoro o tr= oa kaloro pro manko da apta vivo-spaco ed apta vivo-truo (domo). Kande un a= nimalo havas abundanta alimento, spaco e domo, ol esas richa. Kom alimento,= la biologisti inkluzas la aero pura e la aquo pura.

       Singla speco ex anima= li povas bezonar altra specifa produkti o kondicioni biologiala; exemple, l= a merluchi bezonas la aquo saloza ex la maro por natar e respirar, aquo sal= oza qua esus veneno por la cervi, qui ne povas natar, nek povas respirar o = drinkar aquo saloza. La cervi bezonas aero ne kontaminita por respirar, mar= char o kurar ed aquo dolca (ne saloza) por drinkar.

       Anke la homo bezonas s= pecifa produkti e kondicioni por vivar. Precipue, ol bezonas la kulturo e l= a instrumento fundamentala de la kulturo: la linguo. La homo esas animalo q= ua, sempre animalo!, tamen havas un traito propra ne tre komuna kun la altr= a animali: ke la homo reflektas o meditas pri la senco lasta de sua relati = kun la altra homi, pri la naturo lasta de la mondo ube ol vivas, pri la rel= ato inter sua anmo e sua korpo, e pri sua felico. Do la homo bezonas la pro= dukti e kondicioni por parolar (o skribar): paco relativa, sen militi; &nbs= p;lernado orala de adminime un linguo o dialekto; produkti, sistemi ed inst= itucuri por konservar e propagar la linguo kun olua kulturo, kom libri, sko= li (sive lerneyi, sive sistemi da doktrino), laboratorii ciencala, e tale p= luse.

     =  Kande la homo havas abundante ica produkti e kondicioni, kande la ho= mo havas abundante sua alimento, sua aero, sua aquo, sua spaco ube vivar, s= ua kaverni o domi e sua kulturo, ol esas richa.

       Evidente, do, la motivo fu= ndamentala de la povreso esas la desequilibro. E la problemo, hodie, esas k= e nia religii, nia politiki (yen, ideologii politikala) e nia ekonomii baze= sas che la desequilibro. La equilibro destruktus nia religii, nia politiki = e nia ekonomii. La produkti da nia kulturo, nun, esas mem veneno por ni kom= speco biologiala!

  =      La tasko maxim desfacila, ma necesa nun!, esas reduktar= e riequilibrar; yen la vera voyo por ke ni omna esez richa.

       Por ne esar t= ro abstrakta, me donos exemplo pri ica esayo ipsa. Me bezonis linguo por re= daktar, do me elektis linguo facila, irga-loke skribebla e lektebla, qua ne= implikas longa e kustoza voyaji a nacioni stranjera por lernar olu, ma qua= esas linguo internaciona. Che mea komputero, me skribis per olda ma tre ut= ila softwaro*, olim kustoza tamen abandonita e gratuita hodie, qua nur bezo= nas kelka adapturi por la moderna komputeri, adapturi sen kusto ekonomiala = ma poke komplikata. Mea softwaro skribas, formatigas la texto e konservas p= eriode mea esayo, mem se mea komputero paneus.

=        Yen, do, suceso ekonomiala = e kulturala por me ipsa, ma probable un dizastro ekonomiala e sociala se mi= lioni da komputero-uzanti e da linguo-lernanti imitos me, ka ne?

=

       Amike, Al= eshandre Shavier Kasanova Domingo. Se la lektero deziras komentar ica medit= uro, yen mea posto elektronikala: trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo p= unto es).


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Pro ke la m= ilito-ceso establisita du semani ante nun ne egardesas dal rejimo Siriana,= la Ocidentala diplomacisti divenas nepacienta. Ma Rusia duminstante refuz= as omna agado militistal en Siria. =C2=A0 Yunino manifestanta kontre la nu= na guvernerio en Siria =C2=A0 NORD-KOREA / ITA LANDO INTENCAS AGAR NOVA PR= OVOKI La Pentagono timas triesma probo atomal e preparas su a frontierala = afronti. Opoze a nova minaci expresita da Nord-Korea la Pentagono e lua Su= d-Koreana federito diskutas por preparar su a provoko alonge la 38ma paral= elo. Ma la Nord-Koreana=C2=A0vice-marshalo Ri Yong-ho deklaris : "Nia arme= o esas provizita per armi potenta e moderna apta vinkar Usa". =C2=A0 Defil= o da mulieral regimento en Pyongyang =C2=A0 GERMANIA / LA GUVERNERIO DI B= AVARIA VOLAS RIEDITAR "MEIN KAMPF" Versiono di ol notizesos da historiisti= , ante retroveno a la domeno publika en 2015. Germania vartabos preske sep= adek yari, depos la transpaso di Adolfus Hitler, ante audacar afrontar un = de le "tabu" maxim pezoza di lua historio. Pos interdiktir la publikigo di = ol depos 1945, Bavaria prontigas su rieditar "Mein Kampf" la libracho fond= ero dil nazismo, en versiono provizita per noti historial. Nome la dicita = libro esos en la domeno publika en 2015, e lore nulo impedabus lua riedito= sen irga presorgo. =C2=A0 La verko MEIN KAMPF di qua la publikigo interd= iktesas depos 1945 =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-::: = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---1424651814-575556588-1335534614=:521003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Venerdie, ye la 27ma = di aprilo 2012.
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / Siniori interkombatas, servisti vundin recev= as.
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ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil Tauro guv= ernata dal planeto Venero.
 
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La opozantaro Siriana postulas urjanta kunveno = en UN/ONU pri eventuala interveno armizita en lua lando. Pro ke la milito-= ceso establisita du semani ante nun ne egardesas dal rejimo Siriana, la Oc= identala diplomacisti divenas nepacienta. Ma Rusia duminstante refuzas omn= a agado militistal en Siria.
 
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NORD-KOREA / ITA LANDO INTENCAS AGAR NOVA PRO= VOKI
= La Pentagono timas triesma probo atomal e preparas su a frontierala afront= i. Opoze a nova minaci expresita da Nord-Korea la Pentagono e lua Sud-Kore= ana federito diskutas por preparar su a provoko alonge la 38ma paralelo. M= a la Nord-Koreana vice-marshalo Ri Yong-ho deklaris : "Nia armeo esas= provizita per armi potenta e moderna apta vinkar Usa".
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Defilo da mul= ieral regimento en Pyongyang
 
GERMANIA / LA GUVERNERIO DI BAVARIA VOLAS RIEDI= TAR "MEIN KAMPF"
Versiono di ol notizesos da historiisti, ante retroveno a la d= omeno publika en 2015. Germania vartabos preske sepadek yari, depos la tra= nspaso di Adolfus Hitler, ante audacar afrontar un de le "tabu" maxim pezo= za di lua historio. Pos interdiktir la publikigo di ol depos 1945, Bavaria= prontigas su rieditar "Mein Kampf" la libracho fondero dil nazismo, en ve= rsiono provizita per noti historial. Nome la dicita libro esos en la domen= o publika en 2015, e lore nulo impedabus lua riedito sen irga presorgo.
 
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La verko M= EIN KAMPF di qua la publikigo interdiktesas depos 1945
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Kordiala in= terretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::
 
 
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La Romana imperiestro Constantius II vizitis Roma; lo esis=C2=A0la unik= a foyo di tala vizito dum lua vivo. Il naskis en Pannonia, esante filiulo d= i Constantinus la Granda;=C2=A0lua aferi precipue relatis la esto di la=C2= =A0imperio. De 355, dum plura yari,=C2=A0il administris aferi en la westala= imperio, kustumale rezidante ye Mediolanum (nuntempa Milano). =C2=A0 1789.= =C2=A0En la Pacifiko proxim Tonga, eventis=C2=A0revolto en=C2=A0la Britania= na navo HMS=C2=A0Bounty. La revoltanti, di qui la duktanto esis sub-mastro= =C2=A0Fletcher Christian, pozis la komandanta oficisto William Bligh e plur= a altri aden batelo.=C2=A0Ca batelo atingis Timor ye 14 junio, e Bligh ariv= is en Britania en marto 1790 e raportis la revolto a la Admiralerio. Fletch= er ed altra revoltanti, kun kelka Tahitiani,=C2=A0eventuale=C2=A0trovis Pit= cairn-insulo, qua esis mis-lokizita sur la navala mapo di Pacifika insuli;= =C2=A0hike li incendiis la Bounty e li establisis su. =C2=A0 1947.=C2=A0De = Callau, ye la rivo di Peru,=C2=A0Thor Heyerdahl e kin altri komencis voyaja= r en specale konstrukita seglo-navo Kon-Tiki, vers Polineziana insuli en la= Pacifiko. La skopo esis demonstrar ke homi di sud-Amerika en anciena epoko= =C2=A0povabus seglirar trans la Pacifiko ed establisar su en Polineziana in= suli; la navo esis ulsorta rafto di qua la konstrukto=C2=A0uzis materii e m= etodi qui ta homi forsan savis. La voyajo finis ye 7 agosto, pos cirkume 69= 80 km, kande la rafto frapis rifo e fine strandigesis sur ne-populizita ins= ulo, un de la=C2=A0Tuamotu-insuli di Franca Polinezia. Li trovesis da indij= eni qui duktis li a sua vilajo, ube la arivo di la voyajanti esis celebrata= . =C2=A0 Kordiale DGW =C2=A0 --882403689-617056567-1335614444=:79033 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Ye ca dio, 28 aprilo...
 
357. La Romana imperiestro Constantius II vizit= is Roma; lo esis la unika foyo di tala vizito dum lua vivo. Il naskis = en Pannonia, esante filiulo di Constantinus la Granda; lua aferi preci= pue relatis la esto di la = imperio. De 355, dum plura yari, il administris aferi en la westala imperio, kustumale rezidante ye M= ediolanum (nuntempa Milano).
 
1789. En la Pacifiko proxim Tonga, eventis revolto en = la Britaniana navo HMS Bounty. La revoltanti, di qui la duktant= o esis sub-mastro Fletcher Christian, pozis la komandanta oficisto Wil= liam Bligh e plura altri aden b= atelo. Ca batelo atingis Timor ye 14 junio, e Bligh arivis en Britania= en marto 1790 e raportis la revolto a la Admiralerio. Fletcher ed altra re= voltanti, kun kelka Tahitiani, eventuale trovis Pitcairn-insulo, = qua esis mis-lokizita sur la na= vala mapo di Pacifika insuli; hike li incendiis la Bounty e li = establisis su.
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1947.&nbs= p;De Callau, ye la rivo di Peru, Thor Heyerdahl e kin altri komencis v= oyajar en specale konstrukita seglo-navo Kon-Tiki, vers Polineziana = insuli en la Pacifiko. La skopo esis demonstrar ke homi di sud-Amerika en anciena epoko povabus segli= rar trans la Pacifiko ed establisar su en Polineziana insuli; la navo esis = ulsorta rafto di qua la konstrukto uzis materii e metodi qui ta homi f= orsan savis. La voyajo finis ye 7 agosto, pos cirkume 6980 km, kande la raf= to frapis rifo e fine strandigesis sur ne-populizita insulo, un de la = Tuamotu-insuli di Franca Polinezia. Li trovesis da indijeni qui duktis li a= sua vilajo, ube la arivo di la= voyajanti esis celebrata.
 
Kordiale DGW
 
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Dunc yo ha= provat scir alquo per it: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Marte_2012 L= i pagine contene null paroles national ni prendet ex lingues national, ma s= olmen images, numerales e propri nomines (in li alphabete original). It pos= se esser leet per ti ci dictionarium: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/pos= taMundi:Zlango On ne posse dir omnicos per Zlango, totvez on posse dir adm= inim alquo pri omnicos. Mult paroles manca, dunc yo devet esser creativ e s= cir por exemple "mult mal quasi bir" vice "inundation", "rapid quasi nequo"= vice "tornado", "important mann" vice "presidento", "mentir a supra X" vic= e "falsificar por X" o "important hanucca mann" vice "rabbino". Logographi= cmen Gabriel Svoboda From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10466 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=JGcpuR5rZ6GrDaG-Z9jLnaQm0ZzZ8DOdBRXxXCup12ULan989oHsAuWNUDK0 X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Bone, kara Thomas, yo inkargav "IE Munde 5" al situe "ENIONI": http://enion= i.narod.ru/occidental/iemunde05.pdf Anke li ligile es pozata sur li chefa p= agina http://enioni.narod.ru/ Yo spektav statistika por ta mei situe, in ka= da die 15-20 vizites de diversa IP. Ne tre multe, ma tamen... Yo ankor nur= rapide traspektav li numero 5 de IE Mundi, in proxima dies lektara plu ate= ncioze. Pro ko piktures es tante ne-multa? Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yaho= ogroups.com, "Thomas" escribi=F3: > > Car amicos del inter= national lingues! > > Yo just ha mettet li numer=F3 5 del r=E9vue IE Munde= in li archive de ti-ci gruppe. Qualim sempre li jurnale es scrit completme= n in Interlingue-Occidental. > > Li numer=F3 5 de IE Munde contine articul= es de me, de Ian Niles e de Gabriel Svoboda. > > Li numer=F3 5 de IE Munde= contene articules queles yo ja recivet o scrit in li annu 2011, ma anc que= lc nov contributiones, queles esset scrit durant li passat dies. Yo vole ra= porta pri quelc activit=E1s in li movement de Interlingue-Occidental dum li= passat nin mensus. Li central organ del Interlingue-Union celebrat su 70-e= sim anniversarie e hay quelc nov acitivit=E1s de Interlingue-Occidental in = li internet. > > Por ti-ci rev=FAe Gabriel Svoboda continuat su traductio= n del historie del futur per li parte 2. Ian Niles permisset me publicar su= recentmen in li internet publicat traductiones del Fabules Fantastic de Am= brose Bierce. In li angul poetic yo traducat du poemas e ultra to yo ha tra= ducat li textu del canzon "Blindvision" (Ciec-vision) del gruppe Blancmange= in Interlingue-Occidental. > > Li tema de ci numer=F3 es li 20-esim anniv= ersarie del =EDndependentie del Ucraina. Ucraina es li h=F3sped del Europan= Championatu de Football juntmen con Polonia li junio 2012. Benque Ucraina = es un tre grand pa=EDs it es presque =EDnconosset in li munde. Yo anc conti= nua nor cursu de conversation de Interlingue in ti-ci numer=F3 > > Se vu = ne es un membre de ti-ci gruppe on anc posse leer IE Munde 5 anc in li inte= rnet che li p=E1gine http://occidental.npage.de/ sub IE Munde. > > Ma yo a= nc invitar nor car amico Rosto metter IE Munde 5 che su internet p=E1gine "= ENIONI". > > Yo desira vos un plesent letura! Qualmen sempre yo vell esser= joyosi pri vor opiniones e comentaries pri li numer=F3 5 de IE Munde. > = > Amicalmen > Thomas > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10467 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Yo no memora, eske yo= lektav tei novas pri mart, ma yo nun perciptav to kom nova informacione. Y= o no komprenev du peces: ko es "rapida preske nula" e ko es "anihilar parlo= hiera morte", yo tande lektav tei novas in Latino sine Flexione e Idiom Ne= utral e tande komprenev. Nu, noi no pova expektar ke on pova expresar omno = precize per ista Zlango, ma it es interesanta ludo, yo pensa. Koncernu tei= artikle, kara Gabriel, esud bona kategorizar it, tale por ke on vud pova a= tingar it per "omna kategories": http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Special:= Categories . Semble tei novas in Zlango no koresponda a ja existenta katego= rias. Forsan esud bona if tu invente nova kategoria por tei artikle. Artikl= es sin kategoria riska eser perdet inter altra artikles. Rosto. --- En po= sta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel Svoboda" escribi= =F3: > > Yo tre apprecia Zlango, un lingue logographic decovrit de Rosto. D= unc yo ha provat scir alquo per it: > > http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/= Marte_2012 > > Li pagine contene null paroles national ni prendet ex lingu= es national, ma solmen images, numerales e propri nomines (in li alphabete = original). It posse esser leet per ti ci dictionarium: > http://postamundi.= wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi:Zlango > > On ne posse dir omnicos per Zlango, = totvez on posse dir adminim alquo pri omnicos. Mult paroles manca, dunc yo = devet esser creativ e scir por exemple "mult mal quasi bir" vice "inundatio= n", "rapid quasi nequo" vice "tornado", "important mann" vice "presidento",= "mentir a supra X" vice "falsificar por X" o "important hanucca mann" vice= "rabbino". > > Logographicmen > Gabriel Svoboda > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10468 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 87045 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2012 17:27:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m10.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Apr 2012 17:27:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng17-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.213) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2012 17:27:35 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.89] by ng17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 17:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 17:27:34 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:27:32 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: Kad omno en ordino, che Novial? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=4gYlGBYo9s_Ng7nEI4c0qKn-Q0S7r7B6WTLY0HdWlKbDaSIXAWTW-RI X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: Certe, me tote komprenas la helpo-linguo = Novial, tamen me nul-tempe studiabas ol, e me ne savas kad esas o ne esas n= ormal ulo, quon me recente deskovris, dum revizar lua vortaro pri nia frazo= #40. Pro quo chanjar l'original vorto "muse" a "mause"? Ka pro ke existe = altra formo, "musa", qua kolizionus kun "muse", kande olca esus "musa" (mus= e, muso, musa)? Me quik anke shokesis dal fakto, ke, che Novial, existe l= a verbo "abata", quo povus signifikar simila problemo, se ni konsideras, ke= ank existas altra formo diferanta, qual "abate", kande olca esus "abata" (= abate, abato, abata). To pensigas da me ke, che Novial, maxim probable, e= xistas tre multa tala kazi... Ka to produktas advere nula problemo? Kad om= no en ordino, che Novial? Vi omna standez bone! * * * * * * * * p a r t= a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10469 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Li wiki-pagina esera defensata de plusa redaktado, anke yo kompilara li p= df-versione, forsan ye 30 de april, o 1 de may. Nun un die ankor resta por= chanjar alko o adjuntar. Plez, regardu plus foy ante li finala versione: h= ttp://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi:15 Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10470 Return-Path: X-Sender: svoboda.gabriel@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 8959 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2012 20:56:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m9.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Apr 2012 20:56:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng6-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.70) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2012 20:56:24 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.81] by ng6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 20:56:24 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 20:56:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:56:23 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "Gabriel Svoboda" Subject: Lingua Franca Vecchio (Sabir) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=256814494; y=EX1xgeb2XKshJ4lV3WyqbPsHBWgZDUKmDdxEDdOjNuLcZN8b0ipOKjZs X-Yahoo-Profile: gabriel_svoboda Recente me pensis pri un ek la maxim anciena IAL-i "euroklona" - la Lingua = Franca. La vera anciena Lingua Franca Mediteranea (Sabir), ne la moderna im= ituro nomata Lingua Franca Nova. Me do trovis dicionario LF-Angla en l' in= terneto. (Pro l' Angleso me probable ne darfas pozar olu a hike.) Me interd= iktis a me inventar nova vorti: en *pidjino on ne povas parolar floroze, al= tri povus ne komprenar la nova vorti. Kande la dicionario ofris sinonimi, m= e selektis la vorto maxim facile pronuncebla ne nur da Europani ma anke da = Arabi Mediteranea - do me selektis vorto sen /e/, /o/ e /p/. La gramatiko = esas simpla - ol esas nula. Nula artikli, nula pluralo - pidjino esas pidji= no. Kande pluralo esas urjante necesa, on povas duopligar la vorto od ante-= pozar la vorto "elli" (pronomo dil 3ma persono plurala - che pronomi la plu= ralo konservesis). Nek substantivi, nek adjektivi, nek verbi varias. Mem se= l' adjektivo aspektas maskule o femine, ol esas tote valida por omna genri= e nombri. Fine me tradukis a Lingua Franca un texteto pri Palecek, qua es= as jokemo Cheka simila ad exemple Eulenspiegel o Nasreddin: ---------- Fra= tello Palecek star umbre di locheza savio. Ellu nominar se e tutto altra um= ano "fratello", birche ellu star christiano Hussita. Ellu trabajar per rey = Georgio di Podiebradio. Ellu star rey di paise piccolo in oriento di paise = nemsa* in secolo dieci cinque. Citta grandi di ista paise star Braga. Star= usanza antico la in festa di carne e locheza in tempo fredo, que elli uman= o portar roba di locheza - vestito dentro-fora. Un elli star comme cane, al= tra elli star comme cabra. Elli star allegro, bibir e haber baile. Lungo av= anti festa, papaz venir a rey. Papaz star di iglezia grandi di santo Vitus.= Ellu portar vestito bello e rico. Fratello Palecek mirar ellu. Palecek sen= tir se aigre, que papaz haber cura di ricchezza e ne di elli umano meschin*= *. Ellu andar a papaz. Quando papaz hablar con rey Georgio, fratello Palec= ek venir, tocar vestito prezzioso di papaz e criar: "Mira, mira! Ellu gia p= ortar vestito dentro-fora, benque festa di carne e locheza encora ne star!"= Papaz cridar e dicir a rey: "Mi demandar, que ista umbre bunu ne haber cur= a di mi." "Cusi ti far, Palecek?" rey dar question, ridir ma tazir. "Perque= ti haber cura di signor papaz?" "In verita, fratello rey? Si ellu star si= gnor papaz?" Palecek dicir. "Ne sia surpresa per error - mi pensar, que ell= u portar roba dentro-fora comme in festa di carne e locheza!" Papaz sentir = honta e tutto iglezia superbo star vergognioso, qualche piglliar ricchezza = senza pensar di nullo ricchezza umano. * nemsa (slav.) =3D german ** mesch= in (arab.) =3D povra ---------- Me pozos ica texto kom artiklo al wiki-pag= ino di nia jurnalo. Ma ka me darfas facar lo? Quankam Lingua Franca esas (e= sis) linguo simpla e neutra parolata denaske da nulu, ol esas inventita da = nulu, ol existeskis tote naturale; do olu ne esas linguo artifical en signi= fiko maxim strikta. Do, ne hezitez efacar l' artiklo, se vi pensas ke ol ne= esas apta por nia jurnalo! Amikale Gabriel Svoboda From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10471 Return-Path: X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: kVHuUr8VM1k4EpFImw4i5SJNMMDo2XVGBwIX1ZSigBZCycx J6pMldrBc78FoatjKhAXsuWmwVfcwQhzb91bhwrubBOpkQ_NuukvcWG2uKh3 AeaFJhPqYgMwD52oBMNHuac96LYSOO2frZcgBl62JVYCpq8WG9nUBZTvnpPn bpKhvcuccPH0N5NdGnVcsgWJjZNDXK7zPmKeGeCSLPQmHgNimlbPZ1wc8ns_ ONZXi474FPSRACzHGnWV2RTEUGpjHR6ZjOiE6zsh5rjRqhV8NzjQe7WuO5bp XyxfRvixf9ykjcJofYgUKnDENDiBKHKLr.S0obCQfTV6AjDWIcWmkFGa.ZBq 8pxombD6lCVeDtFnRNAwNflDYBhynfjHhYJ13IIs5EP41DSd1ql5lwodPMFX Pkka49sSGZs9ERUArcu7dnFwZ5inM8iYr2MSzNVBbQvutW302AR6IqOHBk9n UrDyqDyTd0SyAeFAcWWR5O9lJvQSY X-Yahoo-SMTP: E54yvcSswBCjl3sQ2d64ONs5Xpwh X-Received: from Alexandre (trigrupo@79.145.186.60 with plain) by smtp111.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2012 14:55:33 -0700 PDT Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 23:55:34 +0200 Organization: Pensador independente X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1769596470.20120428235534@...> To: Rosto In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------2CC210130E8DB44" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo Reply-To: Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo Subject: Re: jurnal POSTA MUNDI, numero 15 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=BL-BuS4nIhp17lDLav_XqyZEFAasOEyJOwQqde_1d-VgsDE X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------2CC210130E8DB44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hola, Rosto, Partaka, Pastrana, Chandler ed omni. Nun, me deziras redakto= r per Ido ne tro mediokra. Nature, mea vera voyo esas redaktar filozofiale = freque. Me nur deziras konocar un aspekto nun, pos observar nia wikkii*. K= ad existas bona kolekturo ex originala texti pri filozofio per Ido? Se yes,= me konsultus tala kolekturo. Amike, el Aleshandre Shavier Kasanova Doming= o, posto elektronikala trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). = ----- Mesajo originala ----- Kara amikes, li numero 15 de nosi jurnal e= s preske kompleta, o forsan tote kompleta, ye 30 de april it esera regardat= a kom kompleta in su finala forma. Li wiki-pagina esera defensata de plusa = redaktado, anke yo kompilara li pdf-versione, forsan ye 30 de april, o 1 de= may. Nun un die ankor resta por chanjar alko o adjuntar. Plez, regardu p= lus foy ante li finala versione: http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMu= ndi:15 Rosto. ------------2CC210130E8DB44 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: jurnal POSTA MUNDI, numero 15

  &n= bsp;    Hola, Rosto, Partaka, Pastrana, Chandler ed omni.<= /p>

       Nun, = me deziras redaktor per Ido ne tro mediokra. Nature, mea vera voyo esas red= aktar filozofiale freque. Me nur deziras konocar un aspekto nun, pos observ= ar nia wikkii*.

  &n= bsp;    Kad existas bona kolekturo ex originala texti pri filozof= io per Ido? Se yes, me konsultus tala kolekturo.

       Amike, el Aleshandre Sha= vier Kasanova Domingo, posto elektronikala trigrupo@... (trigrupo arob= o yahoo punto es).


       = ----- Mesajo originala -----



       Kara amikes= , li numero 15 de nosi jurnal es preske kompleta, o forsan tote kompleta, y= e 30 de april it esera regardata kom kompleta in su finala forma. Li wiki-p= agina esera defensata de plusa redaktado, anke yo kompilara li pdf-versione= , forsan ye 30 de april, o 1 de may. 

       Nun un die ankor resta por cha= njar alko o adjuntar. Plez, regardu plus foy ante li finala versione:

       http://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/postaMundi:15


       Rosto.


------------2CC210130E8DB44-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10472 Return-Path: X-Sender: svoboda.gabriel@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94639 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2012 07:01:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m14.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Apr 2012 07:01:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng1-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.5) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2012 07:01:25 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.85] by ng1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 07:01:25 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 07:01:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:01:23 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "Gabriel Svoboda" Subject: RE: Frazo #40 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=256814494; y=WgsQgOz0Y5N3FsZ1BLAGWG4BP6g9AdpJErDIOn_UnvWDiWPfT0svCRvV X-Yahoo-Profile: gabriel_svoboda Idiom Neutral: Kat venav mus, kani kat, puer kani, abat puer e Deo abat. = Interlingua: Un catto chassava un mus, un can un catto, un infante un can,= un abbate un infante e Deo un abbate. Latino sine Flexione: Fele e vena m= ure, cane fele, impubere cane, abbate impubere e Deo abbate. Sabir (Lingua= Franca): Gato cacciar ratun, cane gato, muchache cane, papaz muchache e di= o papaz. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10473 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... X-Apparently-To: posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 96647 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2012 10:21:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Apr 2012 10:21:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.55.90.216) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2012 10:21:56 -0000 X-Received: from SNT103-W36 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 29 Apr 2012 03:21:53 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: idojc@... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9ba6bc96-65cc-4ab6-9e15-f6e756fbbd72_" To: posta_mundi Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:21:53 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Apr 2012 10:21:53.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5A3DD80:01CD25F1] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [posta_Mundi] Kad omno en ordino, che Novial? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=7idxH-nuyM2sx3wBU4miOK9Kvy6uiRqebly47xOZ1y4 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc --_9ba6bc96-65cc-4ab6-9e15-f6e756fbbd72__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, omno esas "en ordino" che Novial, segun la projeto da Jespersen. Il= preferis angla e germanala formi, do mause (angla, germana), hause ec. I= l anke preferis naturala formi, mem se ambigueso esus (teorie) posibla. Do= abate/o/a vice abade/o/a, malgre verbo abata. Novialim JC > To: posta= _Mundi@yahoogroups.com > From: chepartaka@... > Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2= 012 17:27:32 +0000 > Subject: [posta_Mundi] Kad omno en ordino, che Novial?= > > Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: > > Certe, me tote komprenas la hel= po-linguo Novial, > tamen me nul-tempe studiabas ol, e me ne savas > kad es= as o ne esas normal ulo, quon me recente > deskovris, dum revizar lua vorta= ro pri nia frazo #40. > > Pro quo chanjar l'original vorto "muse" a "mause= "? > Ka pro ke existe altra formo, "musa", qua kolizionus > kun "muse", kan= de olca esus "musa" (muse, muso, musa)? > > Me quik anke shokesis dal fak= to, ke, che Novial, existe > la verbo "abata", quo povus signifikar simila = problemo, > se ni konsideras, ke ank existas altra formo diferanta, > qual = "abate", kande olca esus "abata" (abate, abato, abata). > > To pensigas d= a me ke, che Novial, maxim probable, > existas tre multa tala kazi... > Ka= to produktas advere nula problemo? > Kad omno en ordino, che Novial? > > = Vi omna standez bone! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * = * * * --_9ba6bc96-65cc-4ab6-9e15-f6e756fbbd72__ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, omno esas "en ordino" che Novi= al, segun la projeto da Jespersen.
 
Il preferis angla e = germanala formi, do mause (angla, germana), hause ec.
 
Il ank= e preferis naturala formi, mem se ambigueso esus (teorie) posibla.&nbs= p; Do abate/o/a vice abade/o/a, malgre verbo abata.
 
Novialim=
JC
 
> To: po= sta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com
> From: chepartaka@...
> Date= : Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:27:32 +0000
> Subject: [posta_Mundi] Kad omno e= n ordino, che Novial?
>
> Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi:
= >
> Certe, me tote komprenas la helpo-linguo Novial,
> tame= n me nul-tempe studiabas ol, e me ne savas
> kad esas o ne esas norma= l ulo, quon me recente
> deskovris, dum revizar lua vortaro pri nia f= razo #40.
>
> Pro quo chanjar l'original vorto "muse" a "mause= "?
> Ka pro ke existe altra formo, "musa", qua kolizionus
> kun= "muse", kande olca esus "musa" (muse, muso, musa)?
>
> Me qu= ik anke shokesis dal fakto, ke, che Novial, existe
> la verbo "abata"= , quo povus signifikar simila problemo,
> se ni konsideras, ke ank ex= istas altra formo diferanta,
> qual "abate", kande olca esus "abata" = (abate, abato, abata).
>
> To pensigas da me ke, che Novial, = maxim probable,
> existas tre multa tala kazi...
> Ka to produ= ktas advere nula problemo?
> Kad omno en ordino, che Novial?
> =
> Vi omna standez bone!
>
>
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--_9ba6bc96-65cc-4ab6-9e15-f6e756fbbd72__-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10474 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20188 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2012 10:32:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Apr 2012 10:32:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ng19-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.239) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2012 10:32:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1335695543; bh=QGhNWCPrfx3Ldz8HD/eC6oUkvr2WdSIlM2PV7Ii2uuE=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=YrAeQH+mpyMy/Xsl8Z9q79SGRVVrHfKbD+hOztu8VwM5V8iAbsemjJCzJSVzW7erBoKPGtbcyzQXxcZK5EMgMMjup22Enr1de19kVscKdjXKctFw6WQkeiKZLA1uFsQ0 Received: from [98.137.0.84] by ng19.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 10:32:23 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.184] by tg4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 10:32:23 -0000 X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=bRzkVB8HhGL4IhdvWUUrqi48QPYdukFqMORB5gh8O-m23j0odLLxlAYh X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta X-eGroups-Approved-By: qualevistandas via web; 29 Apr 2012 10:32:23 -0000 Segun me, zuy gran problema de Novial es syao-worda -TIONE. Bu ye klarem = definen farka inter -tione, -o e -e. Me dumi-te om sey kwesta duran mucho t= aim. Al beginsa nu toshi hev-te 3 syao-worda fo kwo-worda. Bat shao-po-shao= nu samaji-te ke justifika fo tione-simila yok. --- En posta_Mundi@yaho= ogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Kar amiki dil gr= upo posta_Mundi: > > Certe, me tote komprenas la helpo-linguo Novial, > ta= men me nul-tempe studiabas ol, e me ne savas > kad esas o ne esas normal ul= o, quon me recente > deskovris, dum revizar lua vortaro pri nia frazo #40. = > > Pro quo chanjar l'original vorto "muse" a "mause"? > Ka pro ke existe = altra formo, "musa", qua kolizionus > kun "muse", kande olca esus "musa" (m= use, muso, musa)? > > Me quik anke shokesis dal fakto, ke, che Novial, ex= iste > la verbo "abata", quo povus signifikar simila problemo, > se ni kons= ideras, ke ank existas altra formo diferanta, > qual "abate", kande olca es= us "abata" (abate, abato, abata). > > To pensigas da me ke, che Novial, m= axim probable, > existas tre multa tala kazi... > Ka to produktas advere n= ula problemo? > Kad omno en ordino, che Novial? > > Vi omna standez bone! = > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10475 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Voluntez itere admirar nia frazo specal #40, qua ja = tradukesis aden la 15 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Oc= cidental/Interlingue, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, Sabir (L= ingua Franca), Mondlango/Ulango, Sibelingua, Sambahsa, ARIEL, LdP, Rapidli= ngue, Populido. Esperanto: Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon infano, = infanon abato kaj abaton Dio. Ido: Muson chasis kato, katon hundo, hundon = puero, pueron abado ed abadon Deo. Interlingua: Un catto chassava un mus, = un can un catto, un infante un can, un abbate un infante e Deo un abbate. = Occidental/Interlingue: Un cat chassat un mus, un cane un cat, un infante= un cane, un abate un infante e Deo un abate. Novial: Mause kate chasad, k= ate hunde chasad, hunde puere chasad, puere abate chasad, e abate Dee chasa= d. Idiom Neutral: Kat venav mus, kani kat, puer kani, abat puer e Deo aba= t. Latino sine Flexione: Fele e vena mure, cane fele, impubere cane, abb= ate impubere e Deo abbate. Sabir (Lingua Franca): Gato cacciar ratun, can= e gato, muchache cane, papaz muchache e dio papaz. Mondlango/Ulango: Kato= casin muso, dogo kato, kido dogo, aboto kido, ay Godo aboto. Sibelingua: = Muse esev chasata da kate, kate da hunde, hunde da puere, puere da abate, e= abate da Deo. Sambahsa: Un musem chassit un catis, un catem un kwaunis, u= n kwaunem un magvis, un magvem abbatis ed abbatem Divis. ARIEL: Un cat cha= save un mus, un can un cat, un puer un can, un abat un puer, e Deo un abat.= LdP: Maus gei-te shikari bay kota, kota bay doga, doga bay kinda, kinda b= ay abat, e abat bay Boh. Rapidlingue: Un kate chasav un muse, un hunde un = kate et un garsono un hunde, un abate un garsono et Teo un abate. Populido= : Kat chasay mus, kan kat, puer kan, abad puer, e Deu abad. Se vi povas e= deziras lo, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #40 aden Volap=FCk, Neo, Glosa, LF= N, ed irg altra helpo-lingui neutra! (Memorez ke "muso, kato, hundo, puero= , abado e Deo", qui aparas en l'original Ido-frazo, esas neutra vorti, do n= ek maskulal nek feminal) Til nexta komuniko, estimati! * * * * * * * * p= a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10477 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Me dankas e gratulas= tu pro ta nova numero, e me esperas, ke IE-MUNDE duros publikigesar (mem s= en fixigita periodeso), kande posibla. La ligilo, quan tu sendis a ni en = tua mesajo, es deskonvenanta por la forumo posta_Mundi, do, se tu deziras o= frar IE-MUNDE a nia vizitanti (qui ne esas membri e ne povas acesar nia ark= ivi), voluntez sendar a ni NUR la direta ligilo al revuo: http://occident= al.npage.de/Ie-munde.html Ultre to, ni omna, membri e vizitanti di posta_= Mundi, anke povas deskargar IE-MUNDE del ret-situo ENIONI. Plusa gratuli, = ed adavane IE-MUNDE ed Occidental/Interlingue! P A R T A K A * * * * * *= * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" = skribis: Bon jorno, posta_Mundi-ani! Ica mesajo esez por informar vi omn= a, ke kargesis nova dokumento che l' fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) dil grupo po= sta_Mundi. Dokumento: /iemunde5.pdf Responsanto: valodnieks Deskripturo: IE Munde 5 April 2012 Por lektar e juar tal dokument= o, voluntez enirar la yena e-adreso: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/pos= ta_Mundi/files/iemunde5.pdf Danko pro via atenco. * * * * * * * * p= a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10478 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 5727 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2012 13:18:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m9.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Apr 2012 13:18:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng9-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.68) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2012 13:18:38 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.124] by ng9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 13:18:37 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by tg5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 13:18:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:18:36 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Lingua Franca Vecchio (Sabir) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=fexcPYebGBsqQN1OJvG7I4MQ7bOEgPdCPa59HHFkt5ch7ScmivE1Lrd0_Vx6 X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Yo videv ta situe pri Sabir cirkum du yares ante nun. Li lingua traktata ib= e semblav a me kuankam interesanta, ma tre arkaik. Pro to yo no havev grand= a interese pri it. Yo kun peno komprene it. Yo komprenev tei rakonte, Gabri= el, nur pos ke spektav paroles in li diktionarie. Kuankam, semble no es tre= desfacila par-studiar ista lexika. On pova rapide komensar komprener pos k= elka praktika, yo pensa. Nu, habitantes de Mideterania ipsa forsan plu faci= le pova komprener ista lingua. Almene, konoso pri Sabir deve eser instrukti= va. Yo pensa, ke es bona, ke tu, Gabriel, expozav Sabir. Koncernu ke it no= es artificial... Nu, Sabir anke no es nacionala lingua, ma internacionala.= Yo pensa, kuankam noi no darfa uzar hike igra pidjines e jargones, pro ke = ili kustumale have tre lokala uzo, ma Sibir es Sabir, it es speciala kazo. = It esev uzata, kun mutaciones, durantu preske mil yares por internacionala = komunikacione in sat granda regione. Yo pensa, ke Sabir darfa eser un ex li= nguas de posta_Mundi. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrie= l Svoboda" escribi=F3: > > Recente me pensis pri un e= k la maxim anciena IAL-i "euroklona" - la Lingua Franca. La vera anciena Li= ngua Franca Mediteranea (Sabir), ne la moderna imituro nomata Lingua Franca= Nova. > > Me do trovis dicionario LF-Angla en l' interneto. (Pro l' Angle= so me probable ne darfas pozar olu a hike.) Me interdiktis a me inventar no= va vorti: en *pidjino on ne povas parolar floroze, altri povus ne komprenar= la nova vorti. Kande la dicionario ofris sinonimi, me selektis la vorto ma= xim facile pronuncebla ne nur da Europani ma anke da Arabi Mediteranea - do= me selektis vorto sen /e/, /o/ e /p/. > > La gramatiko esas simpla - ol e= sas nula. Nula artikli, nula pluralo - pidjino esas pidjino. Kande pluralo = esas urjante necesa, on povas duopligar la vorto od ante-pozar la vorto "el= li" (pronomo dil 3ma persono plurala - che pronomi la pluralo konservesis).= Nek substantivi, nek adjektivi, nek verbi varias. Mem se l' adjektivo aspe= ktas maskule o femine, ol esas tote valida por omna genri e nombri. > > Fi= ne me tradukis a Lingua Franca un texteto pri Palecek, qua esas jokemo Chek= a simila ad exemple Eulenspiegel o Nasreddin: > > ---------- > Fratello Pa= lecek star umbre di locheza savio. Ellu nominar se e tutto altra umano "fra= tello", birche ellu star christiano Hussita. Ellu trabajar per rey Georgio = di Podiebradio. Ellu star rey di paise piccolo in oriento di paise nemsa* i= n secolo dieci cinque. Citta grandi di ista paise star Braga. > > Star usa= nza antico la in festa di carne e locheza in tempo fredo, que elli umano po= rtar roba di locheza - vestito dentro-fora. Un elli star comme cane, altra = elli star comme cabra. Elli star allegro, bibir e haber baile. Lungo avanti= festa, papaz venir a rey. Papaz star di iglezia grandi di santo Vitus. Ell= u portar vestito bello e rico. Fratello Palecek mirar ellu. Palecek sentir = se aigre, que papaz haber cura di ricchezza e ne di elli umano meschin**. E= llu andar a papaz. > > Quando papaz hablar con rey Georgio, fratello Palec= ek venir, tocar vestito prezzioso di papaz e criar: "Mira, mira! Ellu gia p= ortar vestito dentro-fora, benque festa di carne e locheza encora ne star!"= Papaz cridar e dicir a rey: "Mi demandar, que ista umbre bunu ne haber cur= a di mi." "Cusi ti far, Palecek?" rey dar question, ridir ma tazir. "Perque= ti haber cura di signor papaz?" > > "In verita, fratello rey? Si ellu sta= r signor papaz?" Palecek dicir. "Ne sia surpresa per error - mi pensar, que= ellu portar roba dentro-fora comme in festa di carne e locheza!" Papaz sen= tir honta e tutto iglezia superbo star vergognioso, qualche piglliar ricche= zza senza pensar di nullo ricchezza umano. > > * nemsa (slav.) =3D german = > ** meschin (arab.) =3D povra > ---------- > > Me pozos ica texto kom art= iklo al wiki-pagino di nia jurnalo. Ma ka me darfas facar lo? Quankam Lingu= a Franca esas (esis) linguo simpla e neutra parolata denaske da nulu, ol es= as inventita da nulu, ol existeskis tote naturale; do olu ne esas linguo ar= tifical en signifiko maxim strikta. Do, ne hezitez efacar l' artiklo, se vi= pensas ke ol ne esas apta por nia jurnalo! > > Amikale > Gabriel Svoboda = > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10479 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 68471 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2012 15:41:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Apr 2012 15:41:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng15-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.187) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2012 15:41:29 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.80] by ng15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 15:41:28 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 15:41:28 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:41:27 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: Filozofia X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=b8n2A263_tAmxMvj9K8Sh9mTgRndCnXdoFjpX0tOpbI6yNmpWDaYoVaBdwY6 X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Saluto, Alexandre! Yo no save sat filozofial verkes in Ido, ma yen un artik= le in Occidental, semble it es in tei stile. Kuankam, it es un traduko, no = original. Ex jurnal "Cosmoglotta", septembre, 1950 (numero 156) Univ. pro= f. Dr. Karl JASPERS (Heidelberg) NOR FUTURE Un catastrofe del occidente, = mem del homanit=E9, esset presentit del old Goethe; videt con augmentant cl= arit=E1 de Niebuhr, Stendhal, Tocqueville, Burckhart; comprendet in su tot = profundit=E1 de Kierkegaard e Nietzsche; expectat quam via al defenitive sa= lvation de Marx. Tal pensas recive su tot importantie quam un element de hi= storic contemplation total. In omni t=E9mpore noi fa nos imagines universal= , in queles li future es li vacuo, a quel tende ya omnicos quo esset. Li pr= ehistorie, solmen scarsmen lucidijant, dilata se pruvatmen in cent millenie= s de annus. Li devenida del hom es plen de antinomies, it es simplicmen =ED= ncomprensibil, mem =EDmpossibil por nor present inteligentie. In ti long pr= ehistorie esset fundat nor =EDnnascet essentie. Li plu lucid historie del = ultim tri millenies hodie fa nos conscient, que noi quam homanit=E9 solmen = homoment comensa exister historicmen. It es ver, que noi sta in fine de ti = admirabil historie con tri =EDndependant or=EDgines in China, India e in li= Occident, queles cela in se omni contente de nor tradition, e sin quel noi= senti nos glissar in li nihil. Ma con ti tradition, quel hodie es abandona= t al max radical transformation, noi sta nu realmen solmen in li comense. N= am noi posse constatar con certit=E1, que li tecnical era, a quel noi apart= ene, representa li max profund cisura del tot historie til nu. Extermen it = es evident: Desde nu nor planet es un totalit=E9 e omni vive homan es in de= pendentie del munde quel li hom self creat sin fix metode. Per li modo del = production e per li organisation del labor e del societ=E9 nor tot existent= ie va esser revolutionat quam nequande antey. Li fluent vive del passate st= a finit per un colp. Un simptoma de to es: si nor planet peri, li hom ne pl= u posse emigrar quam in omni anteyan t=E9mpores, li ventil es cludet, li te= nsion augmenta. To quo per li modern tecnica e simultanmen con it eveni int= eriorimen in li hom, es ancor plenmen =EDnclar. Li prim, ma certmen ne li u= ltim fenomene es li total nihilisme, quel es perceptet desde Nietzsche. Qu= o li hom va devenir pos ti profund cisura, to nequ=ED save. Sin d=FAbit omn= i images del futurit=E1 es fals. It eveni sempre altrimen, quam on previdet= . Nam li hom es capabil executar interiori revolutiones e regenerationes pe= r saltes, queles ne posse esser constructet antey de alquel intelectu. Un f= antasie, quel vell anticipar un tal realit=E1, vell har ja productet it. (= Ex un discurs pri "Nor future e Goethe" in Frankfurt am Main, 1947. Traduct= et de Eugen Moess, Wien) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10480 Return-Path: X-Sender: valodnieks@... 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Ne tre multe, ma tamen... > Yo ankor nur rapide traspektav l= i numero 5 de IE Mundi, in proxima dies lektara plu atencioze. Pro ko piktu= res es tante ne-multa? > > Rosto. > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,= "Thomas" escribi=F3: > > > > Car amicos del international li= ngues! > > > > Yo just ha mettet li numer=F3 5 del r=E9vue IE Munde in li = archive de ti-ci gruppe. Qualim sempre li jurnale es scrit completmen in In= terlingue-Occidental. > > > > Li numer=F3 5 de IE Munde contine articules = de me, de Ian Niles e de Gabriel Svoboda. > > > > Li numer=F3 5 de IE Mund= e contene articules queles yo ja recivet o scrit in li annu 2011, ma anc qu= elc nov contributiones, queles esset scrit durant li passat dies. Yo vole r= aporta pri quelc activit=E1s in li movement de Interlingue-Occidental dum l= i passat nin mensus. Li central organ del Interlingue-Union celebrat su 70-= esim anniversarie e hay quelc nov acitivit=E1s de Interlingue-Occidental in= li internet. > > > > Por ti-ci rev=FAe Gabriel Svoboda continuat su trad= uction del historie del futur per li parte 2. Ian Niles permisset me public= ar su recentmen in li internet publicat traductiones del Fabules Fantastic = de Ambrose Bierce. In li angul poetic yo traducat du poemas e ultra to yo h= a traducat li textu del canzon "Blindvision" (Ciec-vision) del gruppe Blanc= mange in Interlingue-Occidental. > > > > Li tema de ci numer=F3 es li 20-e= sim anniversarie del =EDndependentie del Ucraina. Ucraina es li h=F3sped de= l Europan Championatu de Football juntmen con Polonia li junio 2012. Benque= Ucraina es un tre grand pa=EDs it es presque =EDnconosset in li munde. 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=cINOxb6nQQuEQ4YTjVQ0Dc2VPvYey0QOz0vpMH0b1iE8wBL6bH1fsIA X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Tamen, semblas a me, kara James, ke, lor selektar la radiko abad- (vice aba= t-, qua ja existis kom "abat/ar"), Ido ne agis desnaturale, nam olta exista= s en la Hispana, la Portugalana ed altra lingui natural ("abad", "abadesa"= , "abadia"). Tale, en Ido, "abato" darfas esar nulo altra kam "ago abatar= ", dum ke "abateyo" (vice la justa "abadeyo") esus "loko ube on abatas" ;-)= Ultre "musa" ed "abata" (en Novial), semblis a me lektir verbo "ava" od "= ave", olqua anke kolizionus kun formi qual "ave, avo, ava", ka ne? E tale p= luse. Me dankas tu e Dimitri pro via respondo-mesaji. * * * * * * * * p= a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Jame= s Chandler skribis: Yes, omno esas "en ordino" che Novial, se= gun la projeto da Jespersen. Il preferis angla e germanala formi, do mau= se (angla, germana), hause ec. Il anke preferis naturala formi, mem se a= mbigueso esus (teorie) posibla. Do abate/o/a vice abade/o/a, malgre verbo = abata. Novialim JC > To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > From: chepart= aka@... > Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:27:32 +0000 > Subject: [posta_Mundi] Ka= d omno en ordino, che Novial? Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: Certe, m= e tote komprenas la helpo-linguo Novial, tamen me nul-tempe studiabas ol, e= me ne savas kad esas o ne esas normal ulo, quon me recente deskovris, dum = revizar lua vortaro pri nia frazo #40. Pro quo chanjar l'original vorto "= muse" a "mause"? Ka pro ke existas altra formo, "musa", qua kolizionus kun = "muse", kande olca esus "musa" (muse, muso, musa)? Me quik anke shokesis= dal fakto, ke, che Novial, existas la verbo "abata", quo povus signifikar = simila problemo, se ni konsideras, ke ank existas altra formo diferanta, qu= al "abate", kande olca esus "abata" (abate, abato, abata). To pensigas d= a me ke, che Novial, maxim probable, existas tre multa tala kazi... Ka to = produktas advere nula problemo? Kad omno en ordino, che Novial? Vi omna s= tandez bone! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10482 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 53101 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2012 01:55:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m15.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2012 01:55:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng12-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.148) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2012 01:55:40 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.80] by ng12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2012 01:55:39 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by tg1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2012 01:55:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 01:55:39 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Kad omno en ordino, che Novial? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=5WWM8111c0xYt-sX92ueDimOrI6peeTwe5BNxp-8dLh13GWfhiZPjlk X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Ho, no! Me quik reaktas, pro ke me jus konjektabas, ke tal "ava", quan me = vidis en la Novial-lexiko, ne darfas esar verbo, ma parto di "ave, avo, ava= ", nam la justa verbo esas "have", ka no? Do, quale skribite, me supozas k= e existas plura tala kazi, qui teorie povus genitar ambigueso, ma yen ke, a= dminime, "ava", ne esus un ek oli. Til balde! * * * * * * * * p a r t a= k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" skribis: > > Tamen, semblas a me, kara James, > ke, lor sele= ktar la radiko abad- (vice abat-, > qua ja existis kom "abat/ar"), Ido ne a= gis > desnaturale, nam olta existas en la Hispana, > la Portugalana ed altr= a lingui natural > ("abad", "abadesa", "abadia"). > > Tale, en Ido, "aba= to" darfas esar nulo altra > kam "ago abatar", dum ke "abateyo" (vice la > = justa "abadeyo") esus "loko ube on abatas" ;-) > > Ultre "musa" ed "abata"= (en Novial), semblis a me > lektir verbo "ava" od "ave", olqua anke kolizi= onus > kun formi qual "ave, avo, ava", ka ne? E tale pluse. > > Me dankas = tu e Dimitri pro via respondo-mesaji. > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a = k a > * * * * * * * * > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > Jam= es Chandler skribis: > > > Yes, omno esas "en ordino" che Novial= , segun la projeto da Jespersen. > > Il preferis angla e germanala formi= , do mause (angla, germana), hause ec. > > Il anke preferis naturala for= mi, mem se ambigueso esus (teorie) posibla. Do abate/o/a vice abade/o/a, m= algre verbo abata. > > Novialim > JC > > > > To: posta_Mundi@yahoogr= oups.com > > From: chepartaka@ > > Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:27:32 +0000 > = > Subject: [posta_Mundi] Kad omno en ordino, che Novial? > > Kar amiki di= l grupo posta_Mundi: > > Certe, me tote komprenas la helpo-linguo Novial,= > tamen me nul-tempe studiabas ol, e me ne savas > kad esas o ne esas norm= al ulo, quon me recente > deskovris, dum revizar lua vortaro pri nia frazo = #40. > > Pro quo chanjar l'original vorto "muse" a "mause"? > Ka pro ke e= xistas altra formo, "musa", qua kolizionus > kun "muse", kande olca esus "m= usa" (muse, muso, musa)? > > Me quik anke shokesis dal fakto, ke, che No= vial, existas > la verbo "abata", quo povus signifikar simila problemo, > s= e ni konsideras, ke ank existas altra formo diferanta, > qual "abate", kand= e olca esus "abata" (abate, abato, abata). > > To pensigas da me ke, che= Novial, maxim probable, > existas tre multa tala kazi... > Ka to produkta= s advere nula problemo? > Kad omno en ordino, che Novial? > > Vi omna sta= ndez bone! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10483 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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VETERO / Blua e sunoza cielo, cajorne, en = Francilia.
 
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USA / ITA LANDO ESAS KAPTITA DAL REGIONO PACIFIKA<= /div>
La departo da le= "marines" de Okinawa, sude di Japonia, e lia repartiso inter Hawai, l'ins= ulo Usana Guam ed Australia, eventas enkadre di strategiala modifiki en Az= ia, olqui rezolvesis dal Usana guvernerio. Opoze a la developo dil misili*= Chiniana di maxim recenta modelo la desproximigo strategial de ta kontine= nta lando esas strategiala avantajo por Usa.
 
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B= ataliono de Usana "marines" manovras en la Pacifika regiono
 
GERMANIA / LA GUVERNERIO DI BERLIN= EKPULSAS DANJEROZA PREDIKERO SALAFISTA
Mohammed Mahmud vokas a la "Djihad", vo= las konquestar Roma ed "exekutar la sentenci da Allah sur la placo Santa-P= etrus". Per ekpulsar lu, Germania asertas ke lu ferme intencas montrar lua= volo agar en la lukto kontre la movado Salafista. Tale la Germana autorit= atozi esperas senkapigar l'islamo extremista sur lia teritorio.=
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Mohammed Mahmud havas en lua dispono quar semani por liv= ar
Germania=
 
UK= RAINA / MISTERIOZA EXPLOZI EN ICA LANDO
Quar "ataki terorista" efektigis 27 vu= nditi en Dniepropretovsk. Quar misterioza explozi efektigis 27 vunditi, in= ter li esas 9 ne-adulta personi, hiere en Dniepropretovsk, industriala urb= ego meze di Ukraina.Prezidanto Viktor Yanukovich qualifikis ica supozat at= enti kom "defio lansita a nia lando". Nome, kun Polonia Ukraina preparas s= u aceptar komence di junio l' Euro 2012 pri futbalo.
 
3D"Deuxdes explosions survenues = =C3=A0 Dniepropetrovsk, dans le nord de l'Ukraine." src=3D"http://www.lefig= aro.fr/medias/2012/04/27/74fddd90-907e-11e1-b4a5-555b85ceb7a2-493x328.jpg">=
Du viri sokursas vund= ita muliero lor un de la explozi qui plagesis
a Dniepropretovsk
 
<= div>Kordiala interretala sa= luti ad omni. JM :::-:::
 


--882403689-393156046-1335781464=:5918--- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10484 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Anke ex jurnal "Cosmoglotta", septembre, 195= 0 (numero 156) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10485 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 6362 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2012 17:43:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m9.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2012 17:43:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng7-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.162) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2012 17:43:50 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.179] by ng7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2012 17:43:50 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by tg4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2012 17:43:50 -0000 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:43:48 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Anciena Academia pro Interlingua X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=BAf4wzqwi4DpPigNd_xXT0tWYrmM6Mcu6IGItQzb9VWDYouUzoMqAc0 X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Bona vespero, Rosto! Me tre dankas tu pro tua informo pri "Discussiones", = historial ed interesantega revuo, qua apartenis ad olima "Academia pro Inte= rlingua", ed ube onu skribis artikli per Latino sine Flexione (Interlingua = de Peano) ed altra neutra helpo-lingui, qui esis (ed esas) interkomprenebla= . Me certe juabas ta vera LIA-trezoro, nome "Discussiones". Danko ed adav= ane, kamarado! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoo= groups.com, "Rosto" skribis: Li Universitate de= Turin ube Giuseppe Peano laborav kelka yares ante nun publikav kelka CD ku= n materiales relatanta a G. Peano, inkludante materiales de anciena Academi= a pro Interlingua. Yo no trovav ta CD in li rete. Tamen un antrop kel no= mina se Xavigotski metev nemulta peces ex li jurnal "Discussiones" kom tex= te, hike, e sekuente: https://sites.google.com/site/academiaprointerlingu= a190913/1909-aug-n-1/p-1-7 In materiales de April, 1913 yo renkontrav un = interesanta koze, un kurta texte in 10 linguas auxilara (yen posta_Mundi 99= yares ante nun!): "1. Reform-Neutral, versione de W. Rosenberger: Prog= ress. =96 I av [ancianitet de] septent annui. In mie prim annui i vognoss= av homi, queli avav alor tant annui, quant i av nu. Quande ili parlav di = lor predecessori, ili dicav: =AB A! si nostr patri revenier=E9 sur terr, qu= ante ili esser=E9 surprised per rels-ruti co locomotivi rapid; per cel ball= oni, in queli homi audacios [temer] risque lanciar se versu cieli; per cel = navi sine velage ni remi, queli solemente el fo facie marchar! =BB. 2. In= terlingua, verso per U. Basso: Progressu. =96 Ecce me septuagenario. In= meo primo annos, me habe cognito de homines, que habeba, in illo tempore, = etate que me habe hodie. Quando illos loqueba de suo progenitores, illos = diceba: =AB Oh! si nostro patres reveni in terra, quale esser=E8 suo stupef= actione ante ce ferrovias cum rapido locomotivas, ante ce aerostatos in que= de homines audace ausa lanceare se versus celo: ante ce naves sine velo ne= c remo, que igne solo fac procedere! =BB. 3. Auli, per E. de Wahl: Prog= ress. =96 Mi nun have setenti annuso En mu un=E9sim annus mi conossei homes= , quel havei alor li et=E0 quel mi have hodie. Quande ili parlai de lor a= ntecessores ili dii: =AB Ah! si nor patres revenir=E9 sur li terre, qual es= ser=E9 lor astonation avan cel ferrivies con locomotives rapid; avan cel ba= llones en quel homes audaciosi osa elevar-se ad li cieles; avan cel naves s= in veles e rames, queles li foy sol fa ir. =BB 4. Romanal, per Boningue: = Progresse. =96 Ecce yo fian septentero. En mi primi annes yo cogniton h= omos qui haban alor l'eve quel yo han hodie. Quan ilos parlaban di lor an= cestros ilos dictaban: =AB Ah! si ni patros reveniarian sur terre, qual non= estarian lor astonatione pre cel fervies con rapidi locomotives, pre cel b= allones en quel homes audaciosi osan se levar ad cieles, pre cel naves sin = veles nec rames, quel solum igne propulsan! =BB. 5. Omnez, per Bond. Pr= ogresio. =96 Hik mi esa sepentu! In me prim anus, mi konosi homes, qui ev= i alor tam quam mi eva hodi. Quando les paroli di loro anteparentes les d= ici: =AB Ah! si nostro pateres revenare sur ter, qual ne esare loro surpriz= io avan isto fervias kon rapid lokomotives; avan isto airnaves in que homes= audace riska lancer se versu ciel: avan naves sine seles [sails], nek reme= s, quem unike fok faca ier. =BB 6. Perfekt, per Dr. Hartl; Progress. = =96 En eo septuagenar. In meo primo anns, eo novi homs, qvi habeba tunc a= etat qve eo habe nunc. Qvando ils parlaba de suo antecessores, ils diceba= : =AB Ah! si nostro patres revenier=E8 in terra, qval non esser=E8 suo exto= nament ante ist viaferreas ad locomotivas r=E0pidas: ante ist ballons in qv= e homines audaces aude lancearse vers coelo; ante ist naves sine velo nec r= emo, qve solo foco taci vadere! =BB. 7. Esperanto, per S. Linardi: Prog= reso. =96 Jen mi estas sepdekjara. Dum miaj unuaj jaroj mi konis homojn k= iuj tiam havis la aghon kiun mi havas hodiau. Kiam ilis parolis pri siaj = prapatroj, ili diris: =AB Ho! se niaj patroj revenus sur la teron, kia estu= s ilia miro antau tiuj fervojoi kaj rapidaj lokomotivoj, antau tiuj aerosta= toj en kiuj maltimegaj homoj kuraghas sin jheti al la chielo; antau tiuj sh= ipoj sen veloj kaj sen remiloj kiujn la sola fajro antauenirigas! =BB. 8.= Europal, per Weisbart. Progrese. =96 Videt me sepdezanuere. In mei unt= i vive-anues i konit homes vi havit dan de olditee vi i havan hoit. Ven e= s parlit konsern esi previvantes, en sayit: =AB Ah! ven usi patres retrokom= ur ad erte, kual ya sur esi astone kaus dis fervayes mid rapid lokornotives= ; kaus dis balones per vi homes kurajoni riskan si elanis kontra de firmame= nte; kaus dis naves sen seiles non remes, vi sol de faire makan marchir. = =BB 9. Kosmopolito, Ren=E9 de Saussure. Progreso. =96 Yen mi esas sepde= kyaranu. En mies unesman yaron mi konocis homon, quin tende havis la evo,= i qui mi havas nun. Quende li parolis pri sies praavon, li diris: =AB Ha= ! se nies patron rivenus sur tero, quala esus lies astoneso ante tan fer=AD= voyon kun rapidan lokomotivon; ante tan aershipon, en quin a=FAdacozan homo= n riskas isi lansi al la cielon; ante tan senseglan ey senramilan shipon, i= quin fayro sola propulsas! =BB. 10. Ido, per B. S. Progresado. =96 Me = esas sepdek-yara. En mea unesma yari me konocis homi, qui esis lore tam e= voza kam me esas ca-die. Kande li parolis pri sua ancestri li dicis: =AB = Ha! se nia patri rivenus ad sur la tero, quante li astonesus avan (o pro) t= a fervoyi kun rapid-lokomotivi; avan ta balonegi en qui homi temerara audac= as springar vers la cielo; avan ta bateli sen seglo nek remilo, quin nur fa= iro propulsas! =BB" Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10486 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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En mei vive-yars un, me konosay homs, kel kun su, = lor, le yars kel me kun me nun" (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10487 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Yen ke jus kargesis nova dokumento che l' fako "Archiv= os" (Arkivi) dil grupo posta_Mundi. Dokumento: /posta_mundi_15.pdf Respon= santo: r0st0 Deskripturo: jurnal POSTA MUN= DI #15, april 2012 Lektez e juez ta nova dokumento per kliktar sur la lig= ilo: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/files/posta_mundi_15.pdf= Danko pro via atenco. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10488 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Yen informo pri l'aktiveso dil forumo posta_Mundi dum l= a pasinta monato aprilo. Monato: Aprilo Membri: 77 Partopreninti: 20 Memb= ri ekirinta: 2 Mesaji: 218 (valida mesaji: 217) Maxim aktiva dio: Ye l' 14m= a (mesaji: 15) NOVAJI: 3 plusa dokumenti che l' fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) = Danko pro via ne-kareebla kontributado. * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a *= * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10489 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14695 invoked from network); 1 May 2012 15:33:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2012 15:33:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng2-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.18) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2012 15:33:26 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.89] by ng2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2012 15:33:22 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by tg9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2012 15:33:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 15:33:20 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: Edgar de Wahl pri -v por preterite X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=NFd-7Y57INuEzqijAZq-sD-SsvAz_FaPpG6aSawzHP16ciqw7OuyJOBoK-z- X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 In "KOSMOGLOTT" #6, Juli 1922 (it in ta tempe ankor esev nomat "KOSMOGLOTT"= , no "COSMOGLOTTA") yo renkontrav un responde de E. de Wahl pri sufixe -v p= or preterite. Nu, it es speciale interesanta por me, pro ke yo ipsa uza ist= a -v. ------- Preterit -v. Mi senti li manca de un suffixe por indicar l= i Preterite. Forse -v vell es plu bon quam -t, nam it es convenient anc por= li imperfect. Proque omni lingues Romanic e Germanic have un tal suffixe, = mi opine que anc li L. I. deve haver it. G. A. Moore Resp. (Edgar de Wahl= ): Mi ne ama li suffix -v. It ha perdit se in li evolution in li perfect to= talmen. In li imperfect it ha restat in Italian official, ma in li progress= et lingues it ha desaparit, in F e Valac totalmen, in S. P. e Prov. it es s= olmen in li unesim conjugation, in li altri it ha desaparit. Samli it ne ex= iste plu in li dialectes Italian: Sardin, Logudoresi e Campidanesi. -- It a= ppare me esser contra li direction de evolution lingual reintroducter -v. I= n ti occasion mi vell preferer li forme proposit ante ge Sr. M. -t -- parti= cipie, quel on posse considerar quam contraction del form de perfect: mi am= at =3D mi ha amat. In general mi ne posse comprender li manca de Sr. M.: mi= fe amar, mi ha amat, mi ha hat amat, mi ha esset amant etc. Esque vermen i= t ne es ancor sufficent? Li sol casu u li conjugacion analytic posse esser = un poc pesos, es in li verbes auxiliari: mi fe esser amat, mi fe posser ama= r, ma noi have tal formes anc in li lingues F e A. ------ Edgar de Wahl n= o persuadev me hike. Pro ko "esser contra li direction de evolution lingual= " es mal por L.I.? Yo, kuale G. A. Moore, anke senti bezono de special sufi= xe por preterite, nam, pro ko no? Eske isto es tante terure superflua deman= do? Yo no komprende, pro ko -v sembla tante mal por E. de Wahl. Rosto. = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10490 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Partaka Reply-To: Partaka Subject: Wikipedia-LIA (statistiki) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=8H2mO5D5bmxDKjm7GawEV5xrvjGGj77pkDNbYLJonmkOAbHB1ZVBrSo X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Kar amiki en la tota mondo: Yen la nuna pozicioni di omna LIA-sistemi (qui= disponas ofical wikipedio), e la nombro de artikli publikigita, til hodie,= per singla linguo.=A0 (Nun-tempe, existas entote 285 ofical wikipedii) 2= 7. Esperanto: 163.891 37. Volapuk: 118.935 81. Ido: 23.313 101. Interlingua= : 13.570 173. Novial: 2.599 188. Interlingue: 1.904 215. Lojban: 1.105 Sa= luti e til balde! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * *=A0 [p_M] http://groups= .yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi =A0 From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10492 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Hiere, yen ke me surprizesis lor deskovrar, ke nia Ido-versio= no dil rakonto "La Feino" (qua prizentesas en nia "postamundi.wikkii", apud= le cetera tradukuri en plura LIA-sistemi), indijas la tota kaudo, to es, l= a tota parto final, olqua, irga-motive, ne sucesis riproduktesar ibe: http= ://postamundi.wikkii.com/wiki/Feino_fea_sagiso_maga Standez bone, e til ne= xta komuniko, kar amiko! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10493 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Rosto. --- In posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "p= ostamundi" scriv: > > Hola, Rosto! > > Hiere, yen ke me s= urprizesis lor deskovrar, > ke nia Ido-versiono dil rakonto "La Feino" > (q= ua prizentesas en nia "postamundi.wikkii", > apud le cetera tradukuri en pl= ura LIA-sistemi), > indijas la tota kaudo, to es, la tota parto final, > ol= qua, irga-motive, ne sucesis riproduktesar ibe: > > http://postamundi.wikk= ii.com/wiki/Feino_fea_sagiso_maga > > Standez bone, e til nexta komuniko, = kar amiko! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10494 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 7878 invoked from network); 2 May 2012 08:38:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m15.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 May 2012 08:38:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng6-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.70) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2012 08:38:11 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.89] by ng6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2012 08:38:11 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by tg9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2012 08:38:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 08:38:08 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: "Advoko al Idisti." da Josef Weisbart (yare 1926) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=XggpNdXAhvhg5u00w0H5qQaR7xeXRsCCrPphdtu3kREiMMdak_vO0mQD0aSv X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Ex jurnale "KOSMOGLOTT", #33, mart 1926. Yo mete it a hike no pro ke yo to= te konkorda pri lo skrita, ma pro ke it es pikanta, provokanta, e... yes, u= n jerme de alkual profunda veritate ya prezenta in isto. Rosto. ---------= Advoko al Idisti. Skribita en Ido e rekomendita al Idista jurnali por r= iimprimo. Surprizante, quankam sat tarde, vi, kun-adheranti di nia komuna = ideo di interlinguo, komencas nun diskutar pri reformi, ante la formala fin= o dil periodo di stabileso. To esas ecelanta justifiko di mea protesto ed e= kiro en 1909, e kauzas nova esperi por uniono di omna progresista interling= uani. Me memorigas a vi mea sempre iterata probi unionar la mondo-linguani= , adminime la progresisti, ne-Esperantisti. Ja en 1908 me konoceskis, ke la= reformo di Esperanto, exekutita, da la Delegitaro en 1907, esis tote nesuf= icanta, e me insistis quik rifacar tota laboro. Ma vi kredis vi plu saja e = marchis pluse sur la falsa voyo. Me itere exhortis vi en 1923; vi mokis ed = insultis me. Vi esis vere tro su-suficanta, kredis farmir la cienco por vi = sola e ne montris la necesa respekto a laboro facita exter Ido. -- Nu, ka v= i nun lernabas ulo ek la iro di la fakti? -- Me esperas e vartas. Por la b= ono di nia komuna afero, ne saciesez nun da detala e bagatela reformeti, ma= atakez la arbitrala Volap=FCkatra fundamento Zamenhof'ala, transprenita en= 1907 pro taktikala motivi, por konquestar la amasi dil Esperantisti, katen= izante omna libera evoluciono ed impedante vi, utiligar en via sistemo nova= aquiraji di ne-Idista laboro interlinguista. Vi savas, quante granda espe= rin la vinkoza marcho di Esperanto kauzas che nia max olda, tro olda frato,= e kelki ek vi esas inklinita a komuna fronto ne-Esperantista. Ula federuro= intersistema esas bona, ma ne suficas. Sen komuna *sola* linguo, bazo- e *= propago* -linguo ni federita progresisti ne impedos la vinko di Esperanto. = Se ni dicas a la publiko: ni havas dek sistemi, di qui singla esas plu bona= kam Esperanto, -- la publiko iros ad Esperanto. Por *linguala uneso* (cir= kume inter Ido ed Occidental) ni bezonas nur bona volo. Du tipi, sonal-long= esal-gramatikala, de interlinguo existas: la tipo E-F-D, 300 milion homi (O= ccidental, Medial) e la tipo I-S, 120 milioni (Esperanto, Ido, Latino). Se = Ido nur aceptos la sistemo -e, -s, -i vice -o, -i, -a, ol atingos la majori= tata e plu neutra tipo E-F-D, e to suficus por posibligar praktikala lingua= la uniono, adminime til ke Esperanto desaparabos, ta danjero por ni omni, t= a danjero por omna plu alta kulturo -- segun Prof. de Reynold en sua raport= o dil komitato por intelektala kunlaboro a la Ligo di Nacioni. Se Ido acep= tas la sistemo -e, -s, -i (e lo konsequanta), ol divenas tante naturala, ta= nte komprenebla ye la unesma vido por la eruditi, ke ol "prenas la vento ek= la segli" di Occidental e Medial. E pro ke ica yuna sistemi ne ja havas or= ganizuri e jurnali quale Ido, li ne povos konkurencar kun ica, malgre objek= tala supereco, e lia autori ed amiki mustas adherar a la "Reform-Ido" por p= robar evolucionigar ol en la direciono di lia principi. Ni progresista inte= rlinguani omni devas esar pronta, provizore renuncar la kompleta realigo di= *omna* de nia principi, por ke unesala fronto esas posibla kontre la antiq= ua, sterila Esperanto e lua senskrupula dukteri. Nam, se pro nia splitigeso= Esperanto vinkos, nia principi povos esar realigata mem multe plu tarde. = Anke la politikala cirkonstanci sur nia volkano Europa ne permisas a ni kal= kular kun yari e yardeki. Kande, anke per la helpo di unesala forta movado = interlinguana, la sekureso di Europa esos atingita, la interlinguo povos es= ar evolucionigata en la direciono o di skemala simpleso (Esperanto), o di l= ogikaleso (Ido), o di naturaleso romanala (Occidental), o di latineso (Lati= no sine flexione) o di e neutreso e sintezo (Medial), od on povas mem vizar= tote nova, racionala ekumenika linguo, partoprenigante la Chiniana, Japoni= ana, Araba lingui. Ni lernez, dividar nia tota tasko en sua praktikala e te= oriala, prezenta e futura parti! La tasko di la horo esas: unionar omna pro= gresista interlinguani per sistemo esencale plu bona kam Esperanto e konseq= ue facile e rapide enduktebla. Vi idisti havas, kun la Esperantisti, la gr= ava kulpo ye la dizastra skismo dil mondolinguala movado en 1907. Nun vi ha= vas ankore un okaziono, reparar la domajo. Uzez ol! Josef Weisbart, autoro= di Medial. 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72248 invoked from network); 2 May 2012 17:41:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 May 2012 17:41:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng16-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.200) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2012 17:41:28 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.89] by ng16.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2012 17:41:28 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by tg9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2012 17:41:28 -0000 Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 17:41:27 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Filozofia X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=jp0hwExIcf-juXAcTVAyH7RvlRjYL9kftUGOFi2TOVFisMJ2I63ydD9u8MDX X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Un plusa filozofiala artikle, in Occidental, ex "SUPPLEMENT AL COSMOGLOTTA"= , #8, mart, 1927. It es simpatia. Tamen yo pos lektar it, rememorav un arti= kle in Ido, kel yo lektav kelka yares ante nun e kel sat impresav me. Ta ar= tikle es kuaze un responde al artikle ex "Cosmoglotta". Yo nun trovav it in= Internet, e videskav, ke it es un tradukure da nosi kara James Chandler, i= t es pozata che li ret-situe de James. Li artikle es un bona exemplare de f= ilozofiala texte in Ido, yo pensa, ke it bone koresponda al demande de Alex= andre pri filozofia in Ido (quankam, it es nur un artikle, ma Alexandre dem= andav plura), li artikle es nominat "Extraktaji de LA YOGI E LA KOMISARIO",= it es granda, plu bone sekua li ligilo e lekta ibe: http://interlanguages.= net/yogi.html E yen li artikle in Occidental, it es plu-min kurta: ------= ---- T. G. Masaryk Ex li ovre: Suicide. Presc omni theoreticos e practic= os pena escartar li mal ex li modern societ=E9 per reformes economic e poli= tic. Un general et exclusiv attention es tornat a ti ci provas, e generalme= n on expecta anc tre mult de it; t=E1men mi ne posse haver un tal esperanti= e... Sovente li provas e querelles de nor parlamentarios, politicos e natio= nal-economos appare me fortmen pedantic e steril; certimen li societ=E9 ne = va esser salvat per politic e economic concessiones, reformes e reformetes.= Un poc plu o minu de jure e de pecunie ne va abolir li pessimistic desgust= a del vive. Por ti ci mu consideration, quel forsan va apparer tre heretic = al practic politicos, mi posse citar un eminent exemple ex li historie: li = Christ. Li munde roman esset in li epoca de Christ approximativmen in sam = desesperat circumstanties quam li societ=E9 hodial; tande, samli quam nu, m= orbid suicidit=E1 ha repandet se, li homes esset malcontent e desfelici, li= desire ye un Messia esset general. Qui ha tande salvat li homanit=E9? Ni u= n politico, ni un national-econom, ni un socialist o demagogo. It es vermen= fenomenal, qualmen Christ in su t=E9mpore, politicmen e socialmen tam exci= tat, absenta se del tot politica; quam facil it vell esser por il gan'ar li= mentes per politic e socialistic agitation! Ma il postula solmen li perfec= tion de caracteres, li profundisation de sentimentes religial; il vole que = li homes mey devenir bon, nam il save que solmen in to ili va trovar li qui= etisation de lor animes. Trad. H P=E1sma. ------------- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10497 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Ultre motivi pri la sociala situeso= , Benyamin Netanyahu deziras havar forta poziciono=C2=A0se Barack Obama ri= elektesus. Nome,=C2=A0la Chefa ministro Israelana timas ke cakaze la Usana= prezidanto facez vera presuri pri la aferi koncernanta la Palestinani ed = Iran por blokusar agado Israelana. =C2=A0 Benyamin Netanyahu lor kunveno = kun lua ministri =C2=A0 EGIPTIA / KIN MORTINTI LOR AFRONTI EN AL QAHIRA (K= AIRO) Kin personi mortigesis hodie pos ke asaltanti atakis grupo de person= i protestanta kontre la nuna guvernerio militistal ye la povo proxim la mi= nistrerio por Defenso en Al-Qahira (Kairo), segun informo-fonti medikala e= segun la sekureso-servi. Amba lateri utiligis "Molotov-cocktail"-i e ston= i. =C2=A0 UNIONITA REJIO / MISILI* INSTALITA EN LONDON DESQUIETIGAS HABITA= NTI La Britaniana ministrerio por Defenso lokizigis baterio de kontre-misi= li* super areo lojata da pekunioza homi por protektar la Olimpialeyo. La h= abitanti ne avertesis ed ica instaluro facesis sen questionar li pri lia o= piniono. Instalita dum ica semano ita misili por sulo ed aero kapabla ye g= randa rapideso havas atingo-povo ye kin kilometri ed esas apta destruktar = avioni. Li surveyesas permanante da dek soldati. =C2=A0 Loko ube instalesa= s la "danjeroza" misili =C2=A0 Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM ::= :-::: --882403689-1892638172-1335983329=:5138 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Merkurdie, ye la = 2ma di mayo 2012.
 
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DIO-PROVERBO / Ta qua sparas, sempre havas.=
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ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil Tauro guvernata dal = planeto Venero.
 
VETERO / Griza c= ielo e vetero pluvoza, cajorne, en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
 
ISRAEL / VERS ANTICIPITA ELEKTO DEPUTITAL
Benyam= in Netanyahu volas profitar lua nuna populareso por organizar voto ante la= venonta somero-fino. Ultre motivi pri la sociala situeso, Benyamin Netany= ahu deziras havar forta poziciono se Barack Obama rielektesus. Nome,&= nbsp;la Chefa ministro Israelana timas ke cakaze la Usana prezidanto facez= vera presuri pri la aferi koncernanta la Palestinani ed Iran por blokusar= agado Israelana.
 
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Benyamin Netanyahu lor kunveno kun lua ministri=
 
EGIPTI= A / KIN MORTINTI LOR AFRONTI EN AL QAHIRA (KAIRO)
Kin personi mortigesis hodie = pos ke asaltanti atakis grupo de personi protestanta kontre la nuna guvern= erio militistal ye la povo proxim la ministrerio por Defenso en Al-Qahira = (Kairo), segun informo-fonti medikala e segun la sekureso-servi. Amba late= ri utiligis "Molotov-cocktail"-i e stoni.
 
UNIONITA REJIO / MISILI* INSTALITA= EN LONDON DESQUIETIGAS HABITANTI
La Britaniana ministrerio por Defenso lokizig= is baterio de kontre-misili* super areo lojata da pekunioza homi por prote= ktar la Olimpialeyo. La habitanti ne avertesis ed ica instaluro facesis se= n questionar li pri lia opiniono. Instalita dum ica semano ita misili por = sulo ed aero kapabla ye granda rapideso havas atingo-povo ye kin kilometri = ed esas apta destruktar avioni. Li surveyesas permanante da dek soldati.<= /b>
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<= font color=3D"#008000" face=3D"DejaVu Sans">Loko ube instalesas la "dan= jeroza" misili
 
Kordiala interretala saluti ad omni. JM :::-:::


--882403689-1892638172-1335983329=:5138--- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10498 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43669 invoked from network); 3 May 2012 00:55:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 May 2012 00:55:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng4-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.135) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2012 00:55:55 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.179] by ng4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2012 00:55:52 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.155] by tg4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2012 00:55:52 -0000 Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 00:55:49 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Edgar de Wahl pri -v por preterite X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=ZYpM9Kz9aoMbcTu3f_WnEVXj1eI1duyWWI1qHzekwOljYuXz1V4J44s X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Kara Rosto: Meajudike, la chefa problemo es, ke verbi finanta per "v" ne s= emblas bona por neutra helpo-linguo internaciona, maxim aparte se on volas = uzar olca anke parole, ultre skribe. Fakte, che ENIONI, nur Idiom Neutral = havas tal finaji verbal, ka ne? Tamen, vice -v, on ya povus utiligar la fin= aji -va, -ve o -vi, do, vice "me amav": "me amava", "me amave" o "me amavi"= . Ne nur Interlingua agas tale, ma mem Ido, se ni konsideras lua perfekto, = "me amabas". Ca-kaze, semblas a me, ke nova LIA-sistemo qual ARIEL agas op= ortune per uzar plu klara ed eufonioza finajo -va. Til balde! P A R T A = K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Rosto" skribis: In "KOSMOGLOTT" #6, Juli 1922 (it in ta tempe= ankor esev nomat "KOSMOGLOTT", no "COSMOGLOTTA") yo renkontrav un responde= de E. de Wahl pri sufixe -v por preterite. Nu, it es speciale interesanta = por me, pro ke yo ipsa uza ista -v. ------- Preterit -v. Mi senti li = manca de un suffixe por indicar li Preterite. Forse -v vell es plu bon quam= -t, nam it es convenient anc por li imperfect. Proque omni lingues Romanic= e Germanic have un tal suffixe, mi opine que anc li L. I. deve haver it. = G. A. Moore Resp. (Edgar de Wahl): Mi ne ama li suffix -v. It ha perdit = se in li evolution in li perfect totalmen. In li imperfect it ha restat in = Italian official, ma in li progresset lingues it ha desaparit, in F e Valac= totalmen, in S. P. e Prov. it es solmen in li unesim conjugation, in li al= tri it ha desaparit. Samli it ne existe plu in li dialectes Italian: Sardin= , Logudoresi e Campidanesi. -- It appare me esser contra li direction de ev= olution lingual reintroducter -v. In ti occasion mi vell preferer li forme = proposit ante ge Sr. M. -t -- participie, quel on posse considerar quam con= traction del form de perfect: mi amat =3D mi ha amat. In general mi ne poss= e comprender li manca de Sr. M.: mi fe amar, mi ha amat, mi ha hat amat, mi= ha esset amant etc. Esque vermen it ne es ancor sufficent? Li sol casu u l= i conjugacion analytic posse esser un poc pesos, es in li verbes auxiliari:= mi fe esser amat, mi fe posser amar, ma noi have tal formes anc in li ling= ues F e A. ------ Edgar de Wahl no persuadev me hike. Pro ko "esser con= tra li direction de evolution lingual" es mal por L.I.? Yo, kuale G. A. Moo= re, anke senti bezono de special sufixe por preterite, nam, pro ko no? Eske= isto es tante terure superflua demando? Yo no komprende, pro ko -v sembla = tante mal por E. de Wahl. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10499 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18749 invoked from network); 3 May 2012 03:53:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 May 2012 03:53:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng17-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.148) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2012 03:53:17 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.126] by ng17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2012 03:53:16 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2012 03:53:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 03:53:15 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Rosto" Subject: RE: Edgar de Wahl pri -v por preterite X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=I4NiKUTmTo1v2_0knF7KWxySP4UnGtJFOCoQqwsdjieJBrKmcTZfAEcGBZ3w X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Semble, yo no have altra variante kam rekte skrir, ko yo pensa pri isto. Ye= s, in ENIONI nur Idiom Neutral have -v, plu precize, -av, ma anke nur Inter= lingua have -va. In lingua Angli multa vortes es finata per -v (kom parte = de radike). Nu, yes, li fonetika Angli no es un bona exemple de simpla fone= tika, ma yo no memora, ke yo vud askolta ke alki ex ne-Angles adjunta un su= perflua vokale pos -v Angli. Hispanes pronuncia -v plu harde, plu proxima a= -b e pro to ili bezona un vokale pos -v. A. Gode fav Interlingua maxim pro= xima a lingua Hispani, e pro to es komprenebla lesi -va. Forsan plu bona es= ud skrir -w vice -v. Inter linguas Slavik, in li lingua Ukraini -v es uzata= por preterite, tamen nur kom maskulina. It es pronunciata plu proxima a -w= , ma advere, Ukraines omna su "v" pronuncia kom "w". Komuna Slavik preterit= e es, klare, -l. In lingua Rusi -v es li sufixe de perfekta adverbiala part= icipie, ko es sat frekuente uzata (plu frekuente in literatura, kam in simp= la parlada), in Ido li analoge es li forma -abinte, sat rare uzata (altra I= ALes no uza analoges). Yo konsenti, ke exemplim -b esud fonetikale mal, e p= lu bona es -ba, o kun altra vokale. Ma if analogim dir pri -v, kuala tande = es diferncie inter -b e -v? Advere, li diferencie es facile deskriptebla: l= i konsonante "b" es exploziva e li konsonante "v" es frikativa, e "w" es se= mi-vokale. Isto es li esencie del diferncie inter b, v, w. Yo krede, ke nur= exploziva konsonantes: p, b, t, d, k, g, ts (kuale in "vice") por internac= ionala fonetika bezona vokales post se. Frikatives: f, v, s, z, h, r kuale = anke semi-vokales l, m, n, y, w no tante bezona vokales post se. Por IALes = on sindubitim mete -s e -r in fines de vortes, pro ko -v es plu mal? Li suf= ixe -iv (kuale in "transitiv", "aktiv", "pozitiv" etc.) anke frekuente es l= asata sin vokale in li fine. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,= "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > Kara Rosto: > > Mea= judike, la chefa problemo es, ke verbi finanta per "v" > ne semblas bona po= r neutra helpo-linguo internaciona, > maxim aparte se on volas uzar olca an= ke parole, ultre skribe. > > Fakte, che ENIONI, nur Idiom Neutral havas ta= l finaji verbal, ka ne? > Tamen, vice -v, on ya povus utiligar la finaji -v= a, -ve o -vi, > do, vice "me amav": "me amava", "me amave" o "me amavi". > = Ne nur Interlingua agas tale, ma mem Ido, se ni konsideras > lua perfekto, = "me amabas". > Ca-kaze, semblas a me, ke nova LIA-sistemo qual ARIEL > aga= s oportune per uzar plu klara ed eufonioza finajo -va. > > Til balde! > >= > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.= com, > "Rosto" skribis: > > In "KOSMOGLOTT" #6, Ju= li 1922 (it in ta tempe ankor esev nomat "KOSMOGLOTT", no "COSMOGLOTTA") yo= renkontrav un responde de E. de Wahl pri sufixe -v por preterite. Nu, it e= s speciale interesanta por me, pro ke yo ipsa uza ista -v. > > ------- > = > Preterit -v. > > Mi senti li manca de un suffixe por indicar li Prete= rite. Forse -v vell es plu bon quam -t, nam it es convenient anc por li imp= erfect. Proque omni lingues Romanic e Germanic have un tal suffixe, mi opin= e que anc li L. I. deve haver it. > > G. A. Moore > > Resp. (Edgar de W= ahl): Mi ne ama li suffix -v. > It ha perdit se in li evolution in li perfe= ct totalmen. In li imperfect it ha restat in Italian official, ma in li pro= gresset lingues it ha desaparit, in F e Valac totalmen, in S. P. e Prov. it= es solmen in li unesim conjugation, in li altri it ha desaparit. Samli it = ne existe plu in li dialectes Italian: Sardin, Logudoresi e Campidanesi. --= It appare me esser contra li direction de evolution lingual reintroducter = -v. In ti occasion mi vell preferer li fforme proposit ante ge Sr. M. -t -- = participie, quel on posse considerar quam contraction del form de perfect: = mi amat =3D mi ha amat. In general mi ne posse comprender li manca de Sr. M= .: mi fe amar, mi ha amat, mi ha hat amat, mi ha esset amant etc. Esque ver= men it ne es ancor sufficent? Li sol casu u li conjugacion analytic posse e= sser un poc pesos, es in li verbes auxiliari: mi fe esser amat, mi fe posse= r amar, ma noi have tal formes anc in li lingues F e A. > > ------ > > = Edgar de Wahl no persuadev me hike. Pro ko "esser contra li direction de ev= olution lingual" es mal por L.I.? Yo, kuale G. A. Moore, anke senti bezono = de special sufixe por preterite, nam, pro ko no? Eske isto es tante terure = superflua demando? Yo no komprende, pro ko -v sembla tante mal por E. de Wa= hl. > > Rosto. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 10500 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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