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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=476120319; y=X9HBZqLmb-txFJt1sxfuFMXeHMx339Qow31eRxn2BMrXgOhgFSbE5l1_ X-Yahoo-Profile: lucas_munduruku --2008866753-1028166745-1382639164=:544554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Danko, Parkata. Hodie esas especiala dio. :D Em Quinta-feira, 24 de Outu= bro de 2013 16:18, Partaka escreveu: =C2=A0 Es= timata samideani e samskopani en la tota mondo: Hodie, jovdie, la 24ma di = oktobro 2013, ni festas la 106ma aniversario di nia linguo Ido, qua naskis = oficale ye l' 24ma di oktobro 1907,=C2=A0 en l'urbo Paris (Francia). =C2=A0= Felica 106ma aniversario, Ido!=C2=A0 Ido vivez! Vivez Ido! P A R T A K = A * * * * * * * * *=C2=A0 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi=C2=A0-= =C2=A0 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan=C2=A0-=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 --2008866753-1028166745-1382639164=:544554 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Danko, Parkata. Hodie esas especiala dio. :D


= Em Quinta-feira, 24 de Outubro de 2013 16:18, Partaka escreveu:
  =
=
Estimata samideani e samskopani en la tota mondo:

Hodie, jovdie, la 24ma di oktobro 2013,
ni festas la 106ma aniversario di nia linguo Ido,
qua naskis oficale ye l' 24ma di oktobro 1907, 
en l'urbo Paris (Francia).  

= Felica 106ma aniversario, Ido! 

= Ido vivez! Vivez Ido!

P A R T A K A=
* * * * * * * * * 
http://group= s.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - 
http://groups= .yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -   

Kara amiki,
 
Danko pro via konsili e helpo. Partaka: danko pro la ligo a la Britaniana Ido-librerio.
 
Nun mea questiono esas, ka la Britaniana Ido-librerio (Terry Mint) ankore vendas libri?
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : qualevistandas@yahoo.es
Datum : 04/11/2013 19:01
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: La Serchado

 

Hola, Hans! 

Ka tu konsultabas la katalogo dil Britaniana Ido-librerio? 

Ibe trovesas enlistizita La Serchado, da Andreas Juste: 

http://www.idokulturo.tk/katalogo-di-ido-libri 

La Germana Ido-librerio, maxim probable, anke havas< /p>

la mencionita ed advere importanta Ido-verko.   

Maxim kordial saluto de Barcelona! 

P A R T A K A

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Lore, ube me povas obtenar exemplero= o fotokopiuro de La Serchado? Saluti amikala, Hans Stuifbergen -- La skopo= di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza) ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : = eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de Datum : 05/11/2013 21:39 Aan : idolisto@yahoog= roups.com Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] RE: La Serchado = Kara Hans, anke en 2008 me korespondis kun= Nic Ap Glyn. Yen un mesajo di la famoza Wals-ano: ------------------= ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------- Estimata amiko, = La propozo esas forjetar ta libri qui ne pluse havas irga valoro -= ti qui ne esas en vendebla stando e di qui ni havas troa nombro de= kopiuri. Mili de libri restos pose. Ma me vere bezonas riposedar m= ea domo. Oldega libri ne atraktos nova adheranti e do nova verki mu= stas remplasar li. Me ne savas kad esos posibla p= or me asistar Ido-konfero pro laborala e familiala obligesi. = Nic ap Glyn ------------------------- F= rom: "Eberhard Scholz" To: = "Mr A P Glyn" Sent: Saturda= y, May 10, 2008 8:43 PM Subject: Libri = Tre estimata amiko, hazard= e me saveskis pri vua stoko dil Idolibri. La German Id= o-societo, en qua me esas un komitatano, tre interesas= konservar la librala trezoro. Nulo darfas forjetesar,= me tre pregas. Mea espero, ke vu ri-aktiveskos en la= Idala movemento ulatempe, ne esas justa, kad yes ? = Me tre esperis ke vu ankorfoye helpos trovar = Britana kunlukteri por ca ecelantega komunikilo Ido. = Quo eventis en Cardiff ? Amikala s= aluti Eberhard Scholz de Berlin = ------------------------------------------------ = Ka ni Ido-luktanti ya devas riganar ta eminenta Idisto, qua dum la = 90-a yari rezignis pro la tatempa stando dil movemento? Ka n= i ofrus a Nic propozo por organizar renkontro en lua urbo? Yen= mea respondo koncerne la serchata La Serchado. Saluti E= berhard Von: jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl Datum: 05.11.2013 20:51 = Kara amiki, Danko pro via konsili e helpo. Partaka:= danko pro la ligo a la Britaniana Ido-librerio. Nun = mea questiono esas, ka la Britaniana Ido-librerio (Terry Mint) anko= re vendas libri? Saluti amikala, Hans Stuifberg= en Amsterdam -- La skopo di la stato esas = libereso.(B. de Spinoza) ----Origineel Berich= t---- Van : qualevistandas@yahoo.es Datum : 04/11/2013 19:0= 1 Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE:= La Serchado Hola, Hans! = Ka tu konsultabas la katalogo dil Britaniana Ido-librerio? = Ibe trovesas enlistizita La Serchado, da Andreas Juste= : http://www.idokulturo.tk/katalogo-di-ido-libri La= Germana Ido-librerio, maxim probable, anke havas< = /p> la mencionita ed advere importanta Ido-verko. = Maxim kordial saluto de Barcelona! 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Do Terry Mint ne plu vendas libri, ka? Lore, ube me povas obtenar exem= plero o fotokopiuro de La Serchado?
 
Saluti amika= la,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
--
La skopo di la stato= esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : ebe= rhard.scholz@idolinguo.de
Datum : 05/11/2013 21:39
Aan : idolisto@yah= oogroups.com
Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] RE: La Serchado

=  

Kara= Hans,

anke en 2008 me korespondis kun Nic Ap Glyn. Ye= n un mesajo di la famoza Wals-ano:
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Estimata amiko,

= La propozo esas forjetar ta libri qui ne pluse havas irga valoro = - ti qui ne esas en vendebla stando e dii qui ni havas troa nombro d= e kopiuri. Mili de libri restos pose. Ma me vere bezonas riposedar = mea domo. Oldega libri ne atraktos nova adheranti e do nova verki m= ustas remplasar li.

Me ne savas kad esos = posibla por me asistar Ido-konfero pro laborala e familiala obliges= i.
Nic ap Glyn
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From: "Eberhard Scholz"
To: "Mr A P Glyn"
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 = 8:43 PM
Subject: Libri

=
Tre estimata = amiko,

hazarde me saveskis = pri vua stoko dil Idolibri.
La German Ido-societo,= en qua me esas un komitatano,
tre interesas konse= rvar la librala trezoro.
Nulo darfas forjetesar,&n= bsp; me tre pregas.
Mea espero, ke vu ri-aktivesko= s en la Idala movemento
ulatempe, ne esas justa, k= ad yes ?
Me tre esperis ke vu ankorfoye helpos tro= var
Britana kunlukteri por ca ecelantega komunikil= o Ido.

Quo eventis en Cardiff ? =
Amikala saluti
Eberhard Scho= lz de Berlin

--= -----------------------------------------------
Ka ni= Ido-luktanti ya devas riganar ta eminenta Idisto, qua dum la
= 90-a yari rezignis pro la tatempa stando dil movemento?
Ka ni= ofrus a Nic propozo por organizar renkontro en lua urbo?

= Yen mea respondo koncerne la serchata La Serchado.

= Saluti
Eberhard


Von: jjs= tuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl
Datum: 05.11.2013 20:51
Kara amiki,
 
Danko pro via konsili e helpo. Partaka: danko pro la ligo a = la Britaniana Ido-librerio.
 
Nun mea questiono esas, ka la Britaniana Ido-librerio (Terry Mint)= ankore vendas libri?
 
Saluti amika= la,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
<= div>Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas liber= eso.(B. de Spinoza)
 ----Origineel Bericht----
Van : qualevistandas@yaho= o.es
Datum : 04/11/2013 19:01
Aan : idolist= o@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: La Serchado
 
=

Hola, Hans! 

Ka tu konsultabas la = katalogo dil Britaniana Ido-librerio? 

Ibe trovesa= s enlistizita La Serchado, da Andreas Juste: 

=

http://www.idokulturo.tk/katalogo-di-ido-libri = ;

La Germana Ido-librerio, maxim probable, anke= havas< /p>

la mencionita ed advere = importanta Ido-verko.   

Maxim kordial sal= uto de Barcelona! 

P A R T A K A

=

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Esez bonvenanta en Idolisto, la central forumo dil Idistaro! Maxim kordial ed amikal saluto de Barcelona! (Partaka) ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Bon jorno. Me nomesas Anupriyo Mandal. Me habitas India, en mikra urbo nomesas Bhilai qua es en la stado Chhattisgarh. Me es nova idisto, e me lernadabas Ido dum tri monati. Me dankas la admino pro aceptar mea prego di enirar tagrupo. Ido es tre bela linguo, e me juas lernar ol. 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Me tre joyas pri vua aktiveso ! Vivez Ido en India! Amikala saluti de Berlin / Germania Eberhard Von: Datum: 06.11.2013 15:07 > > > Bon jorno. Me nomesas Anupriyo Mandal. Me habitas India, en mikra urbo > nomesas Bhilai qua es en la stado Chhattisgarh. Me es nova idisto, e > me lernadabas Ido dum tri monati. > Me dankas la admino pro aceptar mea prego di enirar tagrupo. Ido es > tre bela linguo, e me juas lernar ol. > > Saluti Amikala > Anupriyo Mandal > > --------------050501010903020107030106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Saluto a Bhilai, kara Idoamiko Anupriyo,

bona, ke vu esas en Idolisto.
Me tre joyas pri vua aktiveso !
Vivez Ido en India!

Amikala saluti de Berlin / Germania
Eberhard


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Datum: 06.11.2013 15:07
Bon jorno. Me nomesas Anupriyo Mandal. Me habitas India, en mikra urbo nomesas Bhilai qua es en la stado Chhattisgarh. Me es nova idisto, e me lernadabas Ido dum tri monati. 
Me dankas la admino pro aceptar mea prego di enirar tagrupo. Ido es tre bela linguo, e me juas lernar ol. 

Saluti Amikala
Anupriyo Mandal 



--------------050501010903020107030106--- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24528 Return-Path: X-Sender: loic.landais@wanadoo.fr X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 56458 invoked by uid 102); 7 Nov 2013 10:54:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.143) by m7.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2013 10:54:21 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 2246 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2013 10:54:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) (80.12.242.127) by mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2013 10:54:21 -0000 X-Received: from wwinf1g27 ([10.232.37.101]) by mwinf5d40 with ME id mauL1m00S2AwQAq03auLCu; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 11:54:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 11:54:20 +0100 (CET) To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <364003062.7630.1383821660618.JavaMail.www@wwinf1g27> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7629_442372368.1383821660616" X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: LOIC.LANDAIS@wanadoo.fr Reply-To: loic.landais@wanadoo.fr Subject: re: [idolisto] Saluto de India X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4139878; y=kmcCx39JJisN9RbwaxTQcF8TfpnSXjv_ACRGJqYD7bB8tzo X-Yahoo-Profile: landloik ------=_Part_7629_442372368.13838216606116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saluto Anupriyo, Bonveno che idolisto e gratuli pro vua unesma mesajo en bo= na ido. Jus mikra korektiguro: prego por enirar vice prego di enirar Me sa= veskis per Wikipedia ke Bhilai situesas 25 km de Raipur la chefurbo di la s= tato Chhattisgarh e havas staliferio e/o metaliferio. En Francia urbo de ci= rkume 700 000 habitanti quale Bhilai esas granda urbo. Quale vu deskovris l= 'existeso di Ido? Amikala saluti de Arzon (sudala Bretonia en Francia) Lo= =C3=AFc Landais > Message du 06/11/13 15:07 > De : anupriyo.mandal@yaho= o.in > A : idolisto@yahoogroups.com > Copie =C3=A0 : > Objet : [idolisto] = Saluto de India > > > > Bon jorno. Me nomesas Anupriyo Mandal. Me habita= s India, en mikra urbo nomesas Bhilai qua es en la stado Chhattisgarh. Me e= s nova idisto, e me lernadabas Ido dum tri monati.=C2=A0 > Me dankas la ad= mino pro aceptar mea prego di enirar tagrupo. Ido es tre bela linguo, e me = juas lernar ol.=C2=A0 > Saluti Amikala Anupriyo Mandal=C2=A0 > > > =C2= =A0 ------=_Part_7629_442372368.13838216606116 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saluto Anupriyo,
Bonveno che idolisto e gratuli pro vua unesma mesaj= o en bona ido.
Jus mikra kor= ektiguro: prego por enirar vice prego di enirar
Me saveskis per Wikipedia ke Bhilai situesas 25 km de Ra= ipur la chefurbo di la stato Chhattisgarh e havas staliferio e/o metaliferi= o.
En Francia urbo de cirkume= 700 000 habitanti quale Bhilai esas granda urbo.
Quale vu deskovris l'existeso di Ido?
Amikala saluti de Arzon (sudala Breto= nia en Francia)
Loïc Lan= dais



> Message du 06/11= /13 15:07
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> A : idolisto@ya= hoogroups.com
> Copie à :
> Objet : [idolisto] Salu= to de India
>
>Bon jorno. Me nomesas Anupriyo Mandal. Me h= abitas India, en mikra urbo nomesas Bhilai qua es en la stado Chhattisgarh.= Me es nova idisto, e me lernadabas Ido dum tri monati. 

>

<= div>Me dankas la admino pro aceptar mea prego di enirar tagrupo. Ido es tre= bela linguo, e me juas lernar ol. 

>
S= aluti Amikala
Anupriyo Mandal 

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Ido developesis de Esperanto. En la komenco ankore Esperanto-vorti esi= s uzita, ma balde oli remplasesis per vorti plu internaciona, per literi ne= -signizita. Koncernante la gramatiko apeene ulo chanjis. Ido reformesis pres= ke sam-multe kam Esperanto, kande ol kreesis da Zamenhof.
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Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
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Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
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Van : draguun97yu@gmail.com
Datum : 06/11/20= 13 17:00
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Reform= i di Ido

 =

Me lektis, ke Ido esi= s kelkafoye reformita. Qua esis reformi?

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Unesme oportas definar e precizigar quon signifikas ‘Ido’. Meaopinione la nomo o koncepto ‘Ido’ inkluzas adminime quar subkoncepti: (1) Ido kom projeto prizentita en 1907. (2) Ido kom lingueskanta projeto, diskutata inter 1908 e 1914. (3) Ido kom vivanta linguo. (4) Ido kom movado. La quaresma punto, quankam intrikita en la triesma, ne interesas nun, nam hike parolesas nur pri la linguala (ne sociala) aspekti di Ido. Nu, ni do komencez del komenco: (1) Ido kom projeto prizentita en 1907: La komitato dil delegitaro por la adopto di internaciona auxiliara linguo, qua kunsidis plurfoye en Paris inter la 15ma e 24ma di oktobro 1907, recevis, por analizo, pseudonimala verko sub la titulo: Ido: Kompleta gramatiko di la linguo internaciona. Da Ido. Paris 1907. (privat edito). 71 p. La komitato recevis anke, pri la supere mencionita projeto, mikra exercaro e specimena lexiko. Ica projeto esis fondita sur plura fonti: (a) Esperanto III, plu ofte konocata kom Esperanto klasika o nur Esperanto (1987). (b) Esperanto IV (reform-projeto prizentita da Zamenhof en 1894). (c) Idiom Neutral (1902). (d) Verko da Couturat pri la deriv-sistemo di Esperanto (Etude sur la dérivation en Esperanto dédiée à MM. les membres du Comité de la Délégation pour l’adoption d’une langue auxiliaire internationale. Coulommiers 1907. Brodard. 77 p.) (e) Adjuvanto, nepublikigita projeto da Beaufront. (d) Privata korespondo inter plura eminenta Franca esperantisti, precipue Beaufront, Couturat e Michaux. La unesma fonto (Esperanto klasika) esas preponderanta, ma le cetera certe ne esas neglijinda. En la komenco la projeto di nova linguo nomesis nur ‘linguo internaciona’, ed Ido, l’autoro dil mencionita verko, restis inkognita dum kelka tempo, til ke Louis de Beaufront rezolvis publike deklarar ke il esas Ido (quankam posa explori montris Louis Couturat kom kunautoro o mem chefautoro di ta projeto). (2) Ido kom lingueskanta projeto, diskutata inter 1908 e 1914: En marto 1908 aparis la unesma numero di la revuo Progreso. Ordinare on dicas ke ica unesma numero esas tote redaktita en Esperanto. Tal aserto divenis quaze “fakto”, pro ke omni repetas ol. Me ipsa agis lo un- o dufoye. Tamen to ne esas vera. Ica 32-pagina unesma numero di Progreso, en la du lasta rubriki (“Bibliografio” e “Korespondo”), kontenas anke kelka texti skribita en la nova projeto. La linguala formo uzata en ica texti kelke diferas de olta prizentita en 1907 al komitato dil delegitaro, nam dume laborabis e deliberabis la t.n. permananta komisiono, qua recevabis la tasko analizar e perfektigar la supere mencionita projeto. De la duesma numero di Progreso, aparinta en aprilo 1908, la quanto de texti en la nova projeto augmentas pokope, til ke olca divenas l’unika redakto-linguo di la revuo ed obtenas la nomo quan ol havas til nun: Ido. Inter 1908 e 1914 la revuo Progreso aparis reguloze omnamonate. Dum ta periodo la gramatiko e vortaro di Ido analizesis e diskutesis, on propozis nova vorti ed afixi, multa detali exploresis. Tamen la linguala formo uzata dum la diskuti chanjis erste pos ke la akademio aprobis nova vorti ed afixi, quo eventis plurfoye dum la mencionita periodo. En 1914 la pokope lingueskanta projeto atingis la formo quan Ido prizentas nun. Tamen ankore mankis ulo por ke Ido divenez “vera” linguo: la sociala dimensiono. (3) Ido kom vivanta linguo: Pos la militala interrupto (1914-1918) la idistaro pokoke rekuperas sua vigoro. Aparas multa nova revui ed eventas la unesma kongresi internaciona. Lore Ido definitive lingueskas e divenas anke sociala fenomeno. En 1925 publikigesas Kompleta Gramatiko Detaloza (KGD) da Louis de Beaufront, verko qua sur 232 pagini rezumas omna dedici akademiala e prizentas omna reguli kun detaloza expliki e multa exempli. La linguala formo uzata en KGD ne diferas de olta uzata en la lasta numeri di Progreso (1914) ed apene diferas de la nuna formo di la linguo. Pri la chanji adoptita de pos 1922 (kelki ja inkluzita en KGD) on lektez yena rezuma artiklo da James Chandler (en la Angla): http://interlanguages.net/changes.html http://interlanguages.net/changes.html Gonçalo Neves ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Me lektis, ke Ido esis kelkafoye reformita. 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gapi7.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2013 11:49:35 -0000 To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster References: In-Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: Subject: RE: Reformi di Ido X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=532016623; y=u6JJjWViljltikizPULEE2tBfN_7_SkY0Lr_pNaYa2_Iu3Q87GlrkA X-Yahoo-Profile: goncalo_neves --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Pri Ido ed olua reformi cirkulas multa miskoncepti ed eroroza judiki. Unesme oportas definar e precizigar quon signifikas ‘Ido’. Meaopinione la nomo o koncepto ‘Ido’ inkluzas adminime quar subkoncepti: (1) Ido kom projeto prizentita en 1907. (2) Ido kom lingueskanta projeto, diskutata inter 1908 e 1914. (3) Ido kom vivanta linguo. (4) Ido kom movado. La quaresma punto, quankam intrikita en la triesma, ne interesas nun, nam hike parolesas nur pri la linguala (ne sociala) aspekti di Ido. Nu, ni do komencez del komenco: (1) Ido kom projeto prizentita en 1907: La komitato dil delegitaro por la adopto di internaciona auxiliara linguo, qua kunsidis plurfoye en Paris inter la 15ma e 24ma di oktobro 1907, recevis, por analizo, pseudonimala verko sub la titulo: Ido: Kompleta gramatiko di la linguo internaciona. Da Ido. Paris 1907. (privat edito). 71 p. La komitato recevis anke, pri la supere mencionita projeto, mikra exercaro e specimena lexiko. Ica projeto esis fondita sur plura fonti: (a) Esperanto III, plu ofte konocata kom Esperanto klasika o nur Esperanto (1987). (b) Esperanto IV (reform-projeto prizentita da Zamenhof en 1894). (c) Idiom Neutral (1902). (d) Verko da Couturat pri la deriv-sistemo di Esperanto (Etude sur la dérivation en Esperanto dédiée à MM. les membres du Comité de la Délégation pour l’adoption d’une langue auxiliaire internationale. Coulommiers 1907. Brodard. 77 p.) (e) Adjuvanto, nepublikigita projeto da Beaufront. (d) Privata korespondo inter plura eminenta Franca esperantisti, precipue Beaufront, Couturat e Michaux. La unesma fonto (Esperanto klasika) esas preponderanta, ma le cetera certe ne esas neglijinda. En la komenco la projeto di nova linguo nomesis nur ‘linguo internaciona’, ed Ido, l’autoro dil mencionita verko, restis inkognita dum kelka tempo, til ke Louis de Beaufront rezolvis publike deklarar ke il esas Ido (quankam posa explori montris Louis Couturat kom kunautoro o mem chefautoro di ta projeto). (2) Ido kom lingueskanta projeto, diskutata inter 1908 e 1914: En marto 1908 aparis la unesma numero di la revuo Progreso. Ordinare on dicas ke ica unesma numero esas tote redaktita en Esperanto. Tal aserto divenis quaze “fakto”, pro ke omni repetas ol. Me ipsa agis lo un- o dufoye. Tamen to ne esas vera. Ica 32-pagina unesma numero di Progreso, en la du lasta rubriki (“Bibliografio” e “Korespondo”), kontenas anke kelka texti skribita en la nova projeto. La linguala formo uzata en ica texti kelke diferas de olta prizentita en 1907 al komitato dil delegitaro, nam dume laborabis e deliberabis la t.n. permananta komisiono, qua recevabis la tasko analizar e perfektigar la supere mencionita projeto. De la duesma numero di Progreso, aparinta en aprilo 1908, la quanto de texti en la nova projeto augmentas pokope, til ke olca divenas l’unika redakto-linguo di la revuo ed obtenas la nomo quan ol havas til nun: Ido. Inter 1908 e 1914 la revuo Progreso aparis reguloze omnamonate. Dum ta periodo la gramatiko e vortaro di Ido analizesis e diskutesis, on propozis nova vorti ed afixi, multa detali exploresis. Tamen la linguala formo uzata dum la diskuti chanjis erste pos ke la akademio aprobis nova vorti ed afixi, quo eventis plurfoye dum la mencionita periodo. En 1914 la pokope lingueskanta projeto atingis la formo quan Ido prizentas nun. Tamen ankore mankis ulo por ke Ido divenez “vera” linguo: la sociala dimensiono. (3) Ido kom vivanta linguo: Pos la militala interrupto (1914-1918) la idistaro pokoke rekuperas sua vigoro. Aparas multa nova revui ed eventas la unesma kongresi internaciona. Lore Ido definitive lingueskas e divenas anke sociala fenomeno. En 1925 publikigesas Kompleta Gramatiko Detaloza (KGD) da Louis de Beaufront, verko qua sur 232 pagini rezumas omna dedici akademiala e prizentas omna reguli kun detaloza expliki e multa exempli. La linguala formo uzata en KGD ne diferas de olta uzata en la lasta numeri di Progreso (1914) ed apene diferas de la nuna formo di la linguo. Pri la chanji adoptita de pos 1922 (kelki ja inkluzita en KGD) on lektez yena rezuma artiklo da James Chandler (en la Angla): http://interlanguages.net/changes.html http://interlanguages.net/changes.html Gonçalo Neves ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Me lektis, ke Ido esis kelkafoye reformita. 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Esas tre desfacila por me dicar, quale me diskovris Ido. Ma, me esforcos. Uldii ante nun, me serchis pri lingui e lua funcioni (generale Gramatiko) che Google. Qua esas la skopo di linguo? Ka existas perfekta linguo? Stranje, un de la serchi che Google montris "Auxilliary language" ed me direktesis a la "Wikipedia"" pagino pri Konstruktita lingui. Ibe me saveskas, qua es konstrktita lingui ed la diversa konstruktita lingui (Art lingui, edc). Ed, me anke saveskas pri Ido ed altra konstruktita lingui. --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLLV Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PHNwYW4gc3R5bGU9ImZvbnQtc2l6ZToxNnB4OyI+U2FsdXRvLiZuYnNwOzwvc3Bhbj48ZGl2Pjxz cGFuIHN0eWxlPSJmb250LXNpemU6MTZweDsiPkVzYXMgdHJlIGRlc2ZhY2lsYSBwb3IgbWUgZGlj YXIsIHF1YWxlIG1lIGRpc2tvdnJpcyBJZG8uIE1hLCBtZSBlc2ZvcmNvcy4gVWxkaWkgYW50ZSBu dW4sIG1lIHNlcmNoaXMgcHJpIGxpbmd1aSBlIGx1YSBmdW5jaW9uaSAoZ2VuZXJhbGUgR3JhbWF0 aWtvKSBjaGUgR29vZ2xlLiBRdWEgZXNhcyBsYSBza29wbyBkaSBsaW5ndW8/IEthIGV4aXN0YXMg cGVyZmVrdGEgbGluZ3VvPzwvc3Bhbj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjxzcGFuIHN0eWxlPSJsaW5lLWhlaWdo dDoxLjIyO2ZvbnQtc2l6ZTptZWRpdW07Ij5TdHJhbmplLCB1biBkZSBsYSBzZXJjaGkgY2hlIEdv b2dsZSBtb250cmlzICZxdW90O0F1eGlsbGlhcnkgbGFuZ3VhZ2UmcXVvdDsgZWQgbWUgZGlyZWt0 ZXNpcyBhIGxhICZxdW90O1dpa2lwZWRpYSZxdW90OyZxdW90OyBwYWdpbm8gcHJpIEtvbnN0cnVr dGl0YSBsaW5ndWkuIEliZSBtZSBzYXZlc2thcywgcXVhIGVzIGtvbnN0cmt0aXRhIGxpbmd1aSBl ZCBsYSBkaXZlcnNhIGtvbnN0cnVrdGl0YSBsaW5ndWkgKEFydCBsaW5ndWksIGVkYykuIEVkLCBt ZSBhbmtlIHNhdmVza2FzIHByaSBJZG8gZWQgYWx0cmEga29uc3RydWt0aXRhIGxpbmd1aS4mbmJz cDs8L3NwYW4+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGRpdj4mbmJzcDs8L2Rpdj48L2Rpdj4= --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLLV-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24533 Return-Path: X-Sender: gneves64@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 56784 invoked by uid 102); 8 Nov 2013 18:52:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq3.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.142) by m7.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2013 18:52:05 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 18701 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2013 18:52:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (66.196.81.228) by mtaq3.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2013 18:52:05 -0000 X-Received: from [66.196.81.177] by n12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2013 18:52:05 -0000 X-Received: from [10.193.242.235] by t7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2013 18:52:05 -0000 Date: 08 Nov 2013 10:52:05 -0800 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by gapi8.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2013 18:39:07 -0000 To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster References: In-Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: Subject: RE: Idolisto e Facebook X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=532016623; y=F34gpabtQwGw_QF5cgSmcBuVaCO96RxKNSPMwmX_JKKxWXUTiiEPhg X-Yahoo-Profile: goncalo_neves --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Kar amiki, Me komprenas la rezervemeso di certena samideani koncerne la utileso e sekureso di Facebook ed altra sociala reti. Tamen komprenez ke la sociala reti – e precipue Facebook – divenas sempre plu multe populara ed ofte uzata, ne nur inter yuni, ma mem inter homi plu evoza. Ne nur privati, ma sempre plu ofte anke firmi ed omnasorta societi ed institucuri rekursas a Facebook por informar sua membri, difuzar novaji, reklamar sua vari e.c. Evidente che Facebook pululas anke plurspeca frivoli, fatui, idioti, e mem raskali, eskrokeri ed obceni. Tamen ico ne eskartas la reala valoro di Facebook kom moderna, facila, rapida, praktikal ed util komunikeyo, konverseyo, informeyo e mem instrukteyo. Koncerne la specala fako di auxiliara lingui, on povas facile konstatar ke omna tala lingui esas bone reprezentata che Facebook. UEA ed UMI havas sua oficala pagino ibe, e multa tala lingui e projeti apene konocata sucesas raliar interesati e mem adepti per la praktika amikigo-sistemo di Facebook. Komprenez ke, kompare a la Yahoo-grupi, la Facebook-etoso esas multe plu agreabla ed atraktiva. Ibe on vidas la vizaji di sua amiki, on facile konoceskas lua kustumi e gusti, per simpla muso-klikto on povas regardar la situeso di lia urbi o vilaji. Omno do divenas plu intima, quaze familiara. Ne astonesez do ke la Ido-agado che Facebook esas plu intensa e mem ofte plu interesanta kam che Yahoo. Altra avantajo di Facebook konsequas de ke mikra movadi – quala nia – obtenas surprizanta videbleso ibe. Advere, me ja plurfoye questionesis da Facebook-amiki qui vidabis ibe mea mesaji e volis saveskar en qua linguo me skribabis oli. Komprenez ke ta Facebook-amiki nultempe interesabis su pri auxiliara lingui e mem ne savis ke tala lingui existas. Yen do bona okaziono por informar li. To ne signifikas ke li quik o mem uldie lernos la linguo o divenos idisti. Tamen esas bona ed utila ke homi ordinare exter la normala “Ido-cirklo” adminime saveskas ulo pri la existo di nia idiomo. To sendubite donas videbleso a la linguo, kontraste al kolda klozeso (quaze ermiteso) dil Ido-grupi che Yahoo. ULI povus nur ganar per havar oficala pagino che Facebook, ed Ido kom linguo e movado certe recevus propulso se plu multa experta idisti komencus frequentar Facebook e helpus la novici qui aparas ibe e questionas pri linguala ed altra temi. Ibe, exemple, on forte sentas la manko di experta indijena parolanti di la Angla (yes, me vizas vi, James Chandler, Robert Carnaghan e David Weston, i.a.), pro ke la novici en la komenco tendencas uzar ta linguo e demandar traduko di Angla vorti ed expresuri. Me joyus se anke Partaka, Madonna ed altra savoza samideani volus e povus partoprenar. To certe helpus plufortigar la movado ed igar la linguo plu atraktiva e plu interesanta. 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--9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLLV-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24534 Return-Path: X-Sender: hphilipps@onlinehome.de X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 90045 invoked by uid 102); 8 Nov 2013 19:26:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.32) by m9.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2013 19:26:03 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 31937 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2013 19:26:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n11-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (66.196.81.193) by mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2013 19:26:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.196.81.179] by n11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2013 19:26:03 -0000 X-Received: from [10.193.75.125] by t9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2013 19:26:03 -0000 Date: 08 Nov 2013 11:26:03 -0800 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by gapi4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2013 19:26:03 -0000 To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster References: In-Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: Subject: RE: Idolisto e Facebook X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=153801129; y=aP8leAe4Ykij3pJ4WKAE64TuPnUEVn3nVYbW_hZ8zrNRva7RyaDESEA X-Yahoo-Profile: hphilipps_2000 --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Kar amiki, me tote konsentas. Nuntempe me precipue okupas me pri Volapük, e per la nova formizo (nomizita 'neo') di la Yahoo-grupi multa dokumenti ed arkivi neplus esas acesebla en la Volapük-grupo che Yahoo. La vivo Volapükala nun precipue eventas che Facebook. NO ESAS NECESA furnisar irga detali pri vu ipsa, kande vu enskribas vu che Facebook. Kordiale, Hermann ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Kar amiki, Me komprenas la rezervemeso di certena samideani koncerne la utileso e sekureso di Facebook ed altra sociala reti. Tamen komprenez ke la sociala reti – e precipue Facebook – divenas sempre plu multe populara ed ofte uzata, ne nur inter yuni, ma mem inter homi plu evoza. Ne nur privati, ma sempre plu ofte anke firmi ed omnasorta societi ed institucuri rekursas a Facebook por informar sua membri, difuzar novaji, reklamar sua vari e.c. Evidente che Facebook pululas anke plurspeca frivoli, fatui, idioti, e mem raskali, eskrokeri ed obceni. Tamen ico ne eskartas la reala valoro di Facebook kom moderna, facila, rapida, praktikal ed util komunikeyo, konverseyo, informeyo e mem instrukteyo. Koncerne la specala fako di auxiliara lingui, on povas facile konstatar ke omna tala lingui esas bone reprezentata che Facebook. UEA ed UMI havas sua oficala pagino ibe, e multa tala lingui e projeti apene konocata sucesas raliar interesati e mem adepti per la praktika amikigo-sistemo di Facebook. Komprenez ke, kompare a la Yahoo-grupi, la Facebook-etoso esas multe plu agreabla ed atraktiva. Ibe on vidas la vizaji di sua amiki, on facile konoceskas lua kustumi e gusti, per simpla muso-klikto on povas regardar la situeso di lia urbi o vilaji. Omno do divenas plu intima, quaze familiara. Ne astonesez do ke la Ido-agado che Facebook esas plu intensa e mem ofte plu interesanta kam che Yahoo. Altra avantajo di Facebook konsequas de ke mikra movadi – quala nia – obtenas surprizanta videbleso ibe. Advere, me ja plurfoye questionesis da Facebook-amiki qui vidabis ibe mea mesaji e volis saveskar en qua linguo me skribabis oli. Komprenez ke ta Facebook-amiki nultempe interesabis su pri auxiliara lingui e mem ne savis ke tala lingui existas. Yen do bona okaziono por informar li. To ne signifikas ke li quik o mem uldie lernos la linguo o divenos idisti. Tamen esas bona ed utila ke homi ordinare exter la normala “Ido-cirklo” adminime saveskas ulo pri la existo di nia idiomo. To sendubite donas videbleso a la linguo, kontraste al kolda klozeso (quaze ermiteso) dil Ido-grupi che Yahoo. ULI povus nur ganar per havar oficala pagino che Facebook, ed Ido kom linguo e movado certe recevus propulso se plu multa experta idisti komencus frequentar Facebook e helpus la novici qui aparas ibe e questionas pri linguala ed altra temi. Ibe, exemple, on forte sentas la manko di experta indijena parolanti di la Angla (yes, me vizas vi, James Chandler, Robert Carnaghan e David Weston, i.a.), pro ke la novici en la komenco tendencas uzar ta linguo e demandar traduko di Angla vorti ed expresuri. Me joyus se anke Partaka, Madonna ed altra savoza samideani volus e povus partoprenar. To certe helpus plufortigar la movado ed igar la linguo plu atraktiva e plu interesanta. 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--9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLLV-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24535 Return-Path: X-Sender: hphilipps@onlinehome.de X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3935 invoked by uid 102); 8 Nov 2013 19:33:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.32) by m6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2013 19:33:54 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 17024 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2013 19:33:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n5-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (72.30.235.60) by mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2013 19:33:54 -0000 X-Received: from [72.30.235.64] by n5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2013 19:33:54 -0000 X-Received: from [10.193.75.125] by t1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2013 19:33:54 -0000 Date: 08 Nov 2013 11:33:54 -0800 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by gapi4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2013 19:30:19 -0000 To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster References: In-Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: Subject: RE: Idolisto e Facebook X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=153801129; y=8_EBng-_nPPcLB8s3U4RVpGcxjfveJz9Tsmo0Odu2BVgE6TFwQcgZpI X-Yahoo-Profile: hphilipps_2000 --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 NO --> NE Che Yahoo anke neplus esas posibla korektigar erori en sua mesaji. ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Kar amiki, me tote konsentas. Nuntempe me precipue okupas me pri Volapük, e per la nova formizo (nomizita 'neo') di la Yahoo-grupi multa dokumenti ed arkivi neplus esas acesebla en la Volapük-grupo che Yahoo. La vivo Volapükala nun precipue eventas che Facebook. NO ESAS NECESA furnisar irga detali pri vu ipsa, kande vu enskribas vu che Facebook. Kordiale, Hermann ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Kar amiki, Me komprenas la rezervemeso di certena samideani koncerne la utileso e sekureso di Facebook ed altra sociala reti. Tamen komprenez ke la sociala reti – e precipue Facebook – divenas sempre plu multe populara ed ofte uzata, ne nur inter yuni, ma mem inter homi plu evoza. Ne nur privati, ma sempre plu ofte anke firmi ed omnasorta societi ed institucuri rekursas a Facebook por informar sua membri, difuzar novaji, reklamar sua vari e.c. Evidente che Facebook pululas anke plurspeca frivoli, fatui, idioti, e mem raskali, eskrokeri ed obceni. Tamen ico ne eskartas la reala valoro di Facebook kom moderna, facila, rapida, praktikal ed util komunikeyo, konverseyo, informeyo e mem instrukteyo. Koncerne la specala fako di auxiliara lingui, on povas facile konstatar ke omna tala lingui esas bone reprezentata che Facebook. UEA ed UMI havas sua oficala pagino ibe, e multa tala lingui e projeti apene konocata sucesas raliar interesati e mem adepti per la praktika amikigo-sistemo di Facebook. Komprenez ke, kompare a la Yahoo-grupi, la Facebook-etoso esas multe plu agreabla ed atraktiva. Ibe on vidas la vizaji di sua amiki, on facile konoceskas lua kustumi e gusti, per simpla muso-klikto on povas regardar la situeso di lia urbi o vilaji. Omno do divenas plu intima, quaze familiara. Ne astonesez do ke la Ido-agado che Facebook esas plu intensa e mem ofte plu interesanta kam che Yahoo. Altra avantajo di Facebook konsequas de ke mikra movadi – quala nia – obtenas surprizanta videbleso ibe. Advere, me ja plurfoye questionesis da Facebook-amiki qui vidabis ibe mea mesaji e volis saveskar en qua linguo me skribabis oli. Komprenez ke ta Facebook-amiki nultempe interesabis su pri auxiliara lingui e mem ne savis ke tala lingui existas. Yen do bona okaziono por informar li. To ne signifikas ke li quik o mem uldie lernos la linguo o divenos idisti. Tamen esas bona ed utila ke homi ordinare exter la normala “Ido-cirklo” adminime saveskas ulo pri la existo di nia idiomo. To sendubite donas videbleso a la linguo, kontraste al kolda klozeso (quaze ermiteso) dil Ido-grupi che Yahoo. ULI povus nur ganar per havar oficala pagino che Facebook, ed Ido kom linguo e movado certe recevus propulso se plu multa experta idisti komencus frequentar Facebook e helpus la novici qui aparas ibe e questionas pri linguala ed altra temi. Ibe, exemple, on forte sentas la manko di experta indijena parolanti di la Angla (yes, me vizas vi, James Chandler, Robert Carnaghan e David Weston, i.a.), pro ke la novici en la komenco tendencas uzar ta linguo e demandar traduko di Angla vorti ed expresuri. Me joyus se anke Partaka, Madonna ed altra savoza samideani volus e povus partoprenar. To certe helpus plufortigar la movado ed igar la linguo plu atraktiva e plu interesanta. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Anke me devas facar emendo: praktika amikigo-sistemo > praktikal amikigo-sistemo Che Facebook on ya povas facile korektigar sua texti... ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: NO --> NE Che Yahoo anke neplus esas posibla korektigar erori en sua mesaji. ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Kar amiki, me tote konsentas. Nuntempe me precipue okupas me pri Volapük, e per la nova formizo (nomizita 'neo') di la Yahoo-grupi multa dokumenti ed arkivi neplus esas acesebla en la Volapük-grupo che Yahoo. La vivo Volapükala nun precipue eventas che Facebook. NO ESAS NECESA furnisar irga detali pri vu ipsa, kande vu enskribas vu che Facebook. Kordiale, Hermann ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Kar amiki, Me komprenas la rezervemeso di certena samideani koncerne la utileso e sekureso di Facebook ed altra sociala reti. Tamen komprenez ke la sociala reti – e precipue Facebook – divenas sempre plu multe populara ed ofte uzata, ne nur inter yuni, ma mem inter homi plu evoza. Ne nur privati, ma sempre plu ofte anke firmi ed omnasorta societi ed institucuri rekursas a Facebook por informar sua membri, difuzar novaji, reklamar sua vari e.c. Evidente che Facebook pululas anke plurspeca frivoli, fatui, idioti, e mem raskali, eskrokeri ed obceni. Tamen ico ne eskartas la reala valoro di Facebook kom moderna, facila, rapida, praktikal ed util komunikeyo, konverseyo, informeyo e mem instrukteyo. Koncerne la specala fako di auxiliara lingui, on povas facile konstatar ke omna tala lingui esas bone reprezentata che Facebook. UEA ed UMI havas sua oficala pagino ibe, e multa tala lingui e projeti apene konocata sucesas raliar interesati e mem adepti per la praktika amikigo-sistemo di Facebook. Komprenez ke, kompare a la Yahoo-grupi, la Facebook-etoso esas multe plu agreabla ed atraktiva. Ibe on vidas la vizaji di sua amiki, on facile konoceskas lua kustumi e gusti, per simpla muso-klikto on povas regardar la situeso di lia urbi o vilaji. Omno do divenas plu intima, quaze familiara. Ne astonesez do ke la Ido-agado che Facebook esas plu intensa e mem ofte plu interesanta kam che Yahoo. Altra avantajo di Facebook konsequas de ke mikra movadi – quala nia – obtenas surprizanta videbleso ibe. Advere, me ja plurfoye questionesis da Facebook-amiki qui vidabis ibe mea mesaji e volis saveskar en qua linguo me skribabis oli. Komprenez ke ta Facebook-amiki nultempe interesabis su pri auxiliara lingui e mem ne savis ke tala lingui existas. Yen do bona okaziono por informar li. To ne signifikas ke li quik o mem uldie lernos la linguo o divenos idisti. Tamen esas bona ed utila ke homi ordinare exter la normala “Ido-cirklo” adminime saveskas ulo pri la existo di nia idiomo. To sendubite donas videbleso a la linguo, kontraste al kolda klozeso (quaze ermiteso) dil Ido-grupi che Yahoo. ULI povus nur ganar per havar oficala pagino che Facebook, ed Ido kom linguo e movado certe recevus propulso se plu multa experta idisti komencus frequentar Facebook e helpus la novici qui aparas ibe e questionas pri linguala ed altra temi. Ibe, exemple, on forte sentas la manko di experta indijena parolanti di la Angla (yes, me vizas vi, James Chandler, Robert Carnaghan e David Weston, i.a.), pro ke la novici en la komenco tendencas uzar ta linguo e demandar traduko di Angla vorti ed expresuri. Me joyus se anke Partaka, Madonna ed altra savoza samideani volus e povus partoprenar. To certe helpus plufortigar la movado ed igar la linguo plu atraktiva e plu interesanta. 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Albert Edward, filiulo di Victoria rejino d= i la Unionita Rejio, naskis en la Palaco di Buckingham. En 1901, ye la mort= o di sua matro, il divenis rejulo Edward 7ma. Ilua patro esis Albert, princ= o di Saxe-Coburg e Gotha, qua esis filiulo di Ernest 1ma duko di Saxe-Cobur= g e Gotha; Ernest esabis Prusiana generalo qua partoprenabis batalii kontre= Napolean. En 1863, Albert Edward mariajesis ad Alexandra princino di Dania= ; el esis filiino di Christian 9ma, ilqua esis rejo di Dania de 1863 til 19= 06. 1967. La Usana kosmosondilo Surveyor 6 atingis la surfaco di la luno. = La skopo di la Surveyor-projeto esis demonstrar la praktikebleso di dolce a= tingar la surfaco di la luno; esis sep kosmosondili en la serii, qui lanses= is de 1966 til 1968, di qui kin esis sucesoza. Surveyor 6 lansesis ye 7 nov= embro 1967; pos arivo, ol transmisis preske 30000 imaji ante la lunala nokt= o qua komencis ye 24 novembro. Ol esis la unesma sondilo qua lansesis de la= lunala surfaco: ye 17 novembro ol levis su til alteso 3 metri, e ri-atingi= s la surfaco ye 2,5 metri de la originala loko. Ol pose fotografis olua ant= ea pedotraci por trovar mekanikala propraji di la sulo; ol prenis plusa fot= ografuri per qui, kun fotografuri ante la movo, stereoskopala imaji esis ob= tenata. =A0 1994. La ne-stabila kemiala elemento darmstatio unesmafoye kre= esis, en la Instituto por Explorado di Pezoza Ioni, en Darmstadt, Germania.= =A0Olua atomala nombro esas 110, ed ol esas en grupo 10 di la periodala ta= belo di elementi.=A0Olua maxim stabila izotopo, darmstatio-281, havas duimo= -vivo 11 sekundi. Un atomo di darmstatioo-269 trovesis ye ca dio, kande plom= bo-208 esis bombardata per nuklei di nikelo-62. La elemento ne existas natu= rale e la kemiala propraji ne esas savata; esas konjektata ke olua propraji= esus quale ti di altra elementi di grupo 10: nikelo, paladio e platino.=A0= La atachita imajo esas fotografuro di la futura Edward 7ma kun Alexandra = di Dania en 1862. Kordiale ---2146765041-678029162-1383987637=:899779 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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1841. Albert Edwar= d, filiulo di Victoria rejino di la Unionita Rejio, naskis en la Palaco di = Buckingham. En 1901, ye la morto di sua matro, il divenis rejulo Edward 7m= a. Ilua patro esis Albert, princo di Saxe-Coburg e Gotha, qua esis filiulo = di Ernest 1ma duko di Saxe-Coburg e Gotha; Ernest esabis Prusiana generalo = qua partoprenabis batalii kontre Napolean. En 1863, Albert Edward mariajesi= s ad Alexandra princino di Dania; el esis filiino di Christian 9ma, ilqua e= sis rejo di Dania de 1863 til 1906.

1967. La Usana kosmosondilo Surveyor 6 atingis la surf= aco di la luno. La skopo di la Surveyor-projeto esis demonstrar la praktike= bleso di dolce atingar la surfaco di la luno; esis sep kosmosondili en la = serii, qui lansesis de 1966 til 1968, di qui kin esis sucesoza. Surveyor = 6 lansesis ye 7 novembro 1967; pos arivo, ol transmisis preske 30000 imaji= ante la lunala nokto qua komencis ye 24 novembro. Ol esis la unesma sondil= o qua lansesis de la lunala surfaco: ye 17 novembro ol levis su til alteso = 3 metri, e ri-atingis la surfaco ye 2,5 metri de la originala loko. Ol pose= fotografis olua antea pedotraci por trovar mekanikala propraji di la sulo;= ol prenis plusa fotografuri per qui, kun fotografuri ante la movo, stereos= kopala imaji esis obtenata.  

1994. La ne-stabila kemiala elemento darmstatio unesmafoye kreesis, e= n la Instituto por Explorado di Pezoza Ioni, en Darmstadt, Germania.  = Olua atomala nombro esas 110, ed ol esas en grupo 10 di la periodala= tabelo di elementi. Olua maxim stabila iz= otopo, darmstatio-281, havas duimo-vivo 11 sekundi. Un atomo di darmstatio-= 269 trovesis ye ca dio, kande plombo-208 esis bombardata per nuklei di nike= lo-62. La elemento ne existas naturale e la kemiala propraji ne esas savata= ; esas konjektata ke olua propraji esus quale ti di altra elementi di gru= po 10: nikelo, paladio e platino. 

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La atachita imajo esas fotografuro di la futura Edwa= rd 7ma kun Alexandra di Dania en 1862.

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<= /html> ---2146765041-678029162-1383987637=:899779-- ---2146765041-1051850633-1383987637=:899979-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24539 Return-Path: X-Sender: svoboda.gabriel@centrum.cz X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 5600 invoked by uid 102); 9 Nov 2013 11:20:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.32) by m8.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 11:20:09 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 8179 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2013 11:20:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (72.30.234.156) by mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 11:20:09 -0000 X-Received: from [66.196.81.175] by n5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2013 11:20:09 -0000 X-Received: from [10.193.75.107] by t5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2013 11:20:09 -0000 Date: 09 Nov 2013 03:20:09 -0800 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by gapi3.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2013 11:20:08 -0000 To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: Subject: Kelka novajeti - Kambodja 2013 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=256814494; y=rikVazCUz48Yx9C_ly-AQBCJaQuLpI8T5QnDh-peJyjYnrqpOkYJmymK X-Yahoo-Profile: gabriel_svoboda --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 (UTF-8) Esas dio varmega, partale nuboza, en Kambodja, qua hodie celebras sua dio di ne-dependeso. 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Subject: Re: Re: [idolisto] RE: La Serchado X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=347562246 Kara Hans, Esas (od esis) Terry Minty (tale) qua havis la stoko precipua en Britania di Idala libri por vendo. Il raportis a David Weston pri vendi. Me ne savas pri la situeso dum recenta yari, o pri la stando di Terry, ma me esperas ke David informos ni. Hans ed Eberhard: ica forumo esas publika e lektebla da irgu, Ne esas bona publikigar adresi elektronikala di membri; tala adresi esas rapide trovebla e kolektebla per "programi". Me replasis tala adresi sube per "XXXXXXX". Kordiale, Robert C. On 5 Nov 2013 22:53:11 +0100, XXXXXXX wrote: Do Terry Mint ne plu vendas libri, ka? Lore, ube me povas obtenar exemplero o fotokopiuro de La Serchado? Saluti amikala, Hans Stuifbergen -- La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza) ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : XXXXXXX Datum : 05/11/2013 21:39 Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] RE: La Serchado Kara Hans, anke en 2008 me korespondis kun Nic Ap Glyn. Yen un mesajo di la famoza Wals-ano: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Estimata amiko, La propozo esas forjetar ta libri qui ne pluse havas irga valoro - ti qui ne esas en vendebla stando e di qui ni havas troa nombro de kopiuri. Mili de libri restos pose. Ma me vere bezonas riposedar mea domo. Oldega libri ne atraktos nova adheranti e do nova verki mustas remplasar li. Me ne savas kad esos posibla por me asistar Ido-konfero pro laborala e familiala obligesi. Nic ap Glyn ------------------------- From: "Eberhard Scholz" XXXXXXX To: "Mr A P Glyn" XXXXXXX Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:43 PM Subject: Libri Tre estimata amiko, hazarde me saveskis pri vua stoko dil Idolibri. La German Ido-societo, en qua me esas un komitatano, tre interesas konservar la librala trezoro. Nulo darfas forjetesar, me tre pregas. Mea espero, ke vu ri-aktiveskos en la Idala movemento ulatempe, ne esas justa, kad yes ? Me tre esperis ke vu ankorfoye helpos trovar Britana kunlukteri por ca ecelantega komunikilo Ido. Quo eventis en Cardiff ? Amikala saluti Eberhard Scholz de Berlin ------------------------------------------------ Ka ni Ido-luktanti ya devas riganar ta eminenta Idisto, qua dum la 90-a yari rezignis pro la tatempa stando dil movemento? Ka ni ofrus a Nic propozo por organizar renkontro en lua urbo? Yen mea respondo koncerne la serchata La Serchado. Saluti Eberhard Von: XXXXXXX Datum: 05.11.2013 20:51 Kara amiki, Danko pro via konsili e helpo. Partaka: danko pro la ligo a la Britaniana Ido-librerio. Nun mea questiono esas, ka la Britaniana Ido-librerio (Terry Mint) ankore vendas libri? Saluti amikala, Hans Stuifbergen Amsterdam -- La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza) ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : XXXXXXX Datum : 04/11/2013 19:01 Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: La Serchado Hola, Hans! Ka tu konsultabas la katalogo dil Britaniana Ido-librerio? Ibe trovesas enlistizita La Serchado, da Andreas Juste: http://www.idokulturo.tk/katalogo-di-ido-libri La Germana Ido-librerio, maxim probable, anke havas< /p> la mencionita ed advere importanta Ido-verko. Maxim kordial saluto de Barcelona! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24542 Return-Path: X-Sender: eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 67591 invoked by uid 102); 9 Nov 2013 19:08:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.37) by m9.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 19:08:44 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 29917 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2013 19:08:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO moutng.kundenserver.de) (212.227.126.187) by mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 19:08:44 -0000 X-Received: from [192.168.2.101] (i59F704A9.versanet.de [89.247.4.169]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LrKW4-1VkgWF1084-013cep; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 20:08:43 +0100 Message-ID: <527E8839.8040901@idolinguo.de> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 20:08:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050202080005000205080602" X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:OQymCEiR/KQWFTLLZsLi9q5j//29PLV+8h1OgYyhbxe lGeLZn8KGV/x8+v0+82Vkcti0pm6evV631G9wCTU51wAp5PS7N lnYjJ50AmIq0OMhhcRMqXVIahptyUnZ0jZ6qL8QcErODeI8FJr dTMIB9SgL6dLMEuDDpYXIqxI5kDKKz9dYGr5O4fUA+2wK0GHpL n8ULTE5sJRsvJ9wM12MyY1HQlgsrG5/md6WwIJIQPupX7mff5B t9O37OiZKRGmVzlxqFkVEo08HkGJsYNwQwR8Vpntx9MH3/M9Xw 3tABHjFY2bZtlK2EdIzMKzBSsRipkSHx1QvnuD+n5BwhF7ZYv2 3lYlzp+XXoxbZTok7vVY= X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Eberhard Scholz Subject: Re: [idolisto] Taktiko-manualo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=23339976; y=hn5zBs4WOUNfb0RJGbBhbSEH094BunklytG_mWDpbNGc8wJIj-JF X-Yahoo-Profile: e_scholz2002 --------------050202080005000205080602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kara Goncalo, me opinionas vidir un exemplero en "nia" arkivo en Berlin. Catempe ni esas preparanta nia kontributajo por la EXpolingua. Pro to me komunikos pose ulo plu preciza a tu. Amikale Eberhard Von: Datum: 08.11.2013 21:06 > > > Kar amiki, > > Kad ulu havas yena verko: > > Taktiko-manualo por Ido-propago, da Heinz Jacob ed Ilmari Federn. > Berlin: Editerio Ido-Centrale (Hermann Jacob) 1931. > > > > --------------050202080005000205080602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Kara Goncalo,

me opinionas vidir un exemplero en "nia" arkivo en Berlin.
Catempe ni esas preparanta nia kontributajo por la EXpolingua.
Pro to me komunikos pose ulo plu preciza a tu.

Amikale
Eberhard


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Datum: 08.11.2013 21:06

Kar amiki,

 

Kad ulu havas yena verko:

 

Taktiko-manualo por Ido-propago, da Heinz Jacob ed Ilmari Federn. Berlin: Editerio Ido-Centrale (Hermann Jacob) 1931.


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Nuntempe me precipue okupas me pri Volapük, e per > la nova formizo (nomizita 'neo') di la Yahoo-grupi multa dokumenti ed > arkivi neplus esas acesebla en la Volapük-grupo che Yahoo. La vivo > Volapükala nun precipue eventas che Facebook. NO ESAS NECESA furnisar > irga detali pri vu ipsa, kande vu enskribas vu che Facebook. > > Kordiale, > Hermann > > > > > ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Kar amiki, > > Me komprenas la rezervemeso di certena samideani koncerne la utileso e > sekureso di Facebook ed altra sociala reti. Tamen komprenez ke la > sociala reti – e precipue Facebook – divenas sempre plu multe populara > ed ofte uzata, ne nur inter yuni, ma mem inter homi plu evoza. Ne nur > privati, ma sempre plu ofte anke firmi ed omnasorta societi ed > institucuri rekursas a Facebook por informar sua membri, difuzar > novaji, reklamar sua vari e.c. Evidente che Facebook pululas anke > plurspeca frivoli, fatui, idioti, e mem raskali, eskrokeri ed obceni. > Tamen ico ne eskartas la reala valoro di Facebook kom moderna, facila, > rapida, praktikal ed util komunikeyo, konverseyo, informeyo e mem > instrukteyo. > > Koncerne la specala fako di auxiliara lingui, on povas facile > konstatar ke omna tala lingui esas bone reprezentata che Facebook. UEA > ed UMI havas sua oficala pagino ibe, e multa tala lingui e projeti > apene konocata sucesas raliar interesati e mem adepti per la praktika > amikigo-sistemo di Facebook. Komprenez ke, kompare a la Yahoo-grupi, > la Facebook-etoso esas multe plu agreabla ed atraktiva. Ibe on vidas > la vizaji di sua amiki, on facile konoceskas lua kustumi e gusti, per > simpla muso-klikto on povas regardar la situeso di lia urbi o vilaji. > Omno do divenas plu intima, quaze familiara. Ne astonesez do ke la > Ido-agado che Facebook esas plu intensa e mem ofte plu interesanta kam > che Yahoo. > > Altra avantajo di Facebook konsequas de ke mikra movadi – quala nia – > obtenas surprizanta videbleso ibe. Advere, me ja plurfoye questionesis > da Facebook-amiki qui vidabis ibe mea mesaji e volis saveskar en qua > linguo me skribabis oli. Komprenez ke ta Facebook-amiki nultempe > interesabis su pri auxiliara lingui e mem ne savis ke tala lingui > existas. Yen do bona okaziono por informar li. To ne signifikas ke li > quik o mem uldie lernos la linguo o divenos idisti. Tamen esas bona ed > utila ke homi ordinare exter la normala “Ido-cirklo” adminime saveskas > ulo pri la existo di nia idiomo. To sendubite donas videbleso a la > linguo, kontraste al kolda klozeso (quaze ermiteso) dil Ido-grupi che > Yahoo. > > ULI povus nur ganar per havar oficala pagino che Facebook, ed Ido kom > linguo e movado certe recevus propulso se plu multa experta idisti > komencus frequentar Facebook e helpus la novici qui aparas ibe e > questionas pri linguala ed altra temi. Ibe, exemple, on forte sentas > la manko di experta indijena parolanti di la Angla (yes, me vizas vi, > James Chandler, Robert Carnaghan e David Weston, i.a.), pro ke la > novici en la komenco tendencas uzar ta linguo e demandar traduko di > Angla vorti ed expresuri. Me joyus se anke Partaka, Madonna ed altra > savoza samideani volus e povus partoprenar. To certe helpus > plufortigar la movado ed igar la linguo plu atraktiva e plu interesanta. > > Kordiale,Gonçalo Neves > > --------------020808050409040902000302 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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An: idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Datum: 08.11.2013 20:26
Kar amiki,
me tote konsentas. Nuntempe me precipue okupas me pri Volapük, e per la nova formizo (nomizita 'neo') di la Yahoo-grupi multa dokumenti ed arkivi neplus esas acesebla en la Volapük-grupo che Yahoo. La vivo Volapükala nun precipue eventas che Facebook. NO ESAS NECESA furnisar irga detali pri vu ipsa, kande vu enskribas vu che Facebook.

Kordiale,
Hermann


 



---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

Kar amiki,

Me komprenas la rezervemeso di certena samideani koncerne la utileso e sekureso di Facebook ed altra sociala reti. Tamen komprenez ke la sociala reti – e precipue Facebook – divenas sempre plu multe populara ed ofte uzata, ne nur inter yuni, ma mem inter homi plu evoza. Ne nur privati, ma sempre plu ofte anke firmi ed omnasorta societi ed institucuri rekursas a Facebook por informar sua membri, difuzar novaji, reklamar sua vari e.c. Evidente che Facebook pululas anke plurspeca frivoli, fatui, idioti, e mem raskali, eskrokeri ed obceni. Tamen ico ne eskartas la reala valoro di Facebook kom moderna, facila, rapida, praktikal ed util komunikeyo, konverseyo, informeyo e mem instrukteyo.

Koncerne la specala fako di auxiliara lingui, on povas facile konstatar ke omna tala lingui esas bone reprezentata che Facebook. UEA ed UMI havas sua oficala pagino ibe, e multa tala lingui e projeti apene konocata sucesas raliar interesati e mem adepti per la praktika amikigo-sistemo di Facebook. Komprenez ke, kompare a la Yahoo-grupi, la Facebook-etoso esas multe plu agreabla ed atraktiva. Ibe on vidas la vizaji di sua amiki, on facile konoceskas lua kustumi e gusti, per simpla muso-klikto on povas regardar la situeso di lia urbi o vilaji. Omno do divenas plu intima, quaze familiara. Ne astonesez do ke la Ido-agado che Facebook esas plu intensa e mem ofte plu interesanta kam che Yahoo.

Altra avantajo di Facebook konsequas de ke mikra movadi – quala nia – obtenas surprizanta videbleso ibe. Advere, me ja plurfoye questionesis da Facebook-amiki qui vidabis ibe mea mesaji e volis saveskar en qua linguo me skribabis oli. Komprenez ke ta Facebook-amiki nultempe interesabis su pri auxiliara lingui e mem ne savis ke tala lingui existas. Yen do bona okaziono por informar li. To ne signifikas ke li quik o mem uldie lernos la linguo o divenos idisti. Tamen esas bona ed utila ke homi ordinare exter la normala “Ido-cirklo” adminime saveskas ulo pri la existo di nia idiomo. To sendubite donas videbleso a la linguo, kontraste al kolda klozeso (quaze ermiteso) dil Ido-grupi che Yahoo.

ULI povus nur ganar per havar oficala pagino che Facebook, ed Ido kom linguo e movado certe recevus propulso se plu multa experta idisti komencus frequentar Facebook e helpus la novici qui aparas ibe e questionas pri linguala ed altra temi. Ibe, exemple, on forte sentas la manko di experta indijena parolanti di la Angla (yes, me vizas vi, James Chandler, Robert Carnaghan e David Weston, i.a.), pro ke la novici en la komenco tendencas uzar ta linguo e demandar traduko di Angla vorti ed expresuri. Me joyus se anke Partaka, Madonna ed altra savoza samideani volus e povus partoprenar. To certe helpus plufortigar la movado ed igar la linguo plu atraktiva e plu interesanta.

Kordiale,Gonçalo Neves



--------------020808050409040902000302--- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24544 Return-Path: X-Sender: eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 6498 invoked by uid 102); 9 Nov 2013 19:20:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.32) by m5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 19:20:58 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 27008 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2013 19:20:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO moutng.kundenserver.de) (212.227.126.187) by mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 19:20:58 -0000 X-Received: from [192.168.2.101] (i59F704A9.versanet.de [89.247.4.169]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MFban-1VRFzp3txd-00Ece7; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 20:20:57 +0100 Message-ID: <527E8B18.5000706@idolinguo.de> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 20:20:56 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030406070308090806090401" X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:YQhBPleYNbl+sELrl080jJ+M3abUs5pw0unOBD5xQxU AlbleWEIZ7W/hChOfQgEHQQP6uN2bs4pnxQyTRySE32WGbhk1o pcyUOObYWaab/gyvEpZAP6ByiLC/Fx8Cf2aQQfVuy006aEk09O ehZgGs0qgX59y0j+J6/3vuk9tlJ1+BJMZLkV/RBjQtVa3hdHm2 u57tZU6FEo5zd/OZYt/wavo4bDLSr+L9w06W26r73JlqsXLmlz IGRAeC+0txfPTfrmhwtL+aWe63/yODwsxKK2P1NWAQxpPXkHl9 23imvEzOs3xNADBSqWeanaBJNWwW+ezaWgKFQAtbVn278m2yfQ jmmGD/ll2SuMpJotgQJs= X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Eberhard Scholz Subject: Re: [idolisto] RE: Idolisto e Facebook X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=23339976; y=DCuwMTpI_7HwLli802Zv-_fzgO8l9MeBnoA8L4--dvNR30iK-_0g X-Yahoo-Profile: e_scholz2002 --------------030406070308090806090401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Kar amiki Goncalo e Hermann, anke me konkordas kun vi. On ne mustas furnisar onua privataji a la FB. Kordiale Eberhard PS. Obliviez mea antea mesajo, me mis-taipis ! Von: Datum: 08.11.2013 20:26 > > > Kar amiki, > me tote konsentas. Nuntempe me precipue okupas me pri Volapük, e per > la nova formizo (nomizita 'neo') di la Yahoo-grupi multa dokumenti ed > arkivi neplus esas acesebla en la Volapük-grupo che Yahoo. La vivo > Volapükala nun precipue eventas che Facebook. NO ESAS NECESA furnisar > irga detali pri vu ipsa, kande vu enskribas vu che Facebook. > > Kordiale, > Hermann > > > > ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Kar amiki, > > Me komprenas la rezervemeso di certena samideani koncerne la utileso e > sekureso di Facebook ed altra sociala reti. Tamen komprenez ke la > sociala reti – e precipue Facebook – divenas sempre plu multe populara > ed ofte uzata, ne nur inter yuni, ma mem inter homi plu evoza. Ne nur > privati, ma sempre plu ofte anke firmi ed omnasorta societi ed > institucuri rekursas a Facebook por informar sua membri, difuzar > novaji, reklamar sua vari e.c. Evidente che Facebook pululas anke > plurspeca frivoli, fatui, idioti, e mem raskali, eskrokeri ed obceni. > Tamen ico ne eskartas la reala valoro di Facebook kom moderna, facila, > rapida, praktikal ed util komunikeyo, konverseyo, informeyo e mem > instrukteyo. > > Koncerne la specala fako di auxiliara lingui, on povas facile > konstatar ke omna tala lingui esas bone reprezentata che Facebook. UEA > ed UMI havas sua oficala pagino ibe, e multa tala lingui e projeti > apene konocata sucesas raliar interesati e mem adepti per la praktika > amikigo-sistemo di Facebook. Komprenez ke, kompare a la Yahoo-grupi, > la Facebook-etoso esas multe plu agreabla ed atraktiva. Ibe on vidas > la vizaji di sua amiki, on facile konoceskas lua kustumi e gusti, per > simpla muso-klikto on povas regardar la situeso di lia urbi o vilaji. > Omno do divenas plu intima, quaze familiara. Ne astonesez do ke la > Ido-agado che Facebook esas plu intensa e mem ofte plu interesanta kam > che Yahoo. > > Altra avantajo di Facebook konsequas de ke mikra movadi – quala nia – > obtenas surprizanta videbleso ibe. Advere, me ja plurfoye questionesis > da Facebook-amiki qui vidabis ibe mea mesaji e volis saveskar en qua > linguo me skribabis oli. Komprenez ke ta Facebook-amiki nultempe > interesabis su pri auxiliara lingui e mem ne savis ke tala lingui > existas. Yen do bona okaziono por informar li. To ne signifikas ke li > quik o mem uldie lernos la linguo o divenos idisti. Tamen esas bona ed > utila ke homi ordinare exter la normala “Ido-cirklo” adminime saveskas > ulo pri la existo di nia idiomo. To sendubite donas videbleso a la > linguo, kontraste al kolda klozeso (quaze ermiteso) dil Ido-grupi che > Yahoo. > > ULI povus nur ganar per havar oficala pagino che Facebook, ed Ido kom > linguo e movado certe recevus propulso se plu multa experta idisti > komencus frequentar Facebook e helpus la novici qui aparas ibe e > questionas pri linguala ed altra temi. Ibe, exemple, on forte sentas > la manko di experta indijena parolanti di la Angla (yes, me vizas vi, > James Chandler, Robert Carnaghan e David Weston, i.a.), pro ke la > novici en la komenco tendencas uzar ta linguo e demandar traduko di > Angla vorti ed expresuri. Me joyus se anke Partaka, Madonna ed altra > savoza samideani volus e povus partoprenar. To certe helpus > plufortigar la movado ed igar la linguo plu atraktiva e plu interesanta. > > Kordiale, > > Gonçalo Neves > > --------------030406070308090806090401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Kar amiki Goncalo e Hermann,

anke me konkordas kun vi.
On ne mustas furnisar onua privataji a la FB.

Kordiale
Eberhard
PS. Obliviez mea antea mesajo, me mis-taipis !



Von:
Datum: 08.11.2013 20:26
Kar amiki,
me tote konsentas. Nuntempe me precipue okupas me pri Volapük, e per la nova formizo (nomizita 'neo') di la Yahoo-grupi multa dokumenti ed arkivi neplus esas acesebla en la Volapük-grupo che Yahoo. La vivo Volapükala nun precipue eventas che Facebook. NO ESAS NECESA furnisar irga detali pri vu ipsa, kande vu enskribas vu che Facebook.

Kordiale,
Hermann



---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

Kar amiki,

Me komprenas la rezervemeso di certena samideani koncerne la utileso e sekureso di Facebook ed altra sociala reti. Tamen komprenez ke la sociala reti – e precipue Facebook – divenas sempre plu multe populara ed ofte uzata, ne nur inter yuni, ma mem inter homi plu evoza. Ne nur privati, ma sempre plu ofte anke firmi ed omnasorta societi ed institucuri rekursas a Facebook por informar sua membri, difuzar novaji, reklamar sua vari e.c. Evidente che Facebook pululas anke plurspeca frivoli, fatui, idioti, e mem raskali, eskrokeri ed obceni. Tamen ico ne eskartas la reala valoro di Facebook kom moderna, facila, rapida, praktikal ed util komunikeyo, konverseyo, informeyo e mem instrukteyo.

Koncerne la specala fako di auxiliara lingui, on povas facile konstatar ke omna tala lingui esas bone reprezentata che Facebook. UEA ed UMI havas sua oficala pagino ibe, e multa tala lingui e projeti apene konocata sucesas raliar interesati e mem adepti per la praktika amikigo-sistemo di Facebook. Komprenez ke, kompare a la Yahoo-grupi, la Facebook-etoso esas multe plu agreabla ed atraktiva. Ibe on vidas la vizaji di sua amiki, on facile konoceskas lua kustumi e gusti, per simpla muso-klikto on povas regardar la situeso di lia urbi o vilaji. Omno do divenas plu intima, quaze familiara. Ne astonesez do ke la Ido-agado che Facebook esas plu intensa e mem ofte plu interesanta kam che Yahoo.

Altra avantajo di Facebook konsequas de ke mikra movadi – quala nia – obtenas surprizanta videbleso ibe. Advere, me ja plurfoye questionesis da Facebook-amiki qui vidabis ibe mea mesaji e volis saveskar en qua linguo me skribabis oli. Komprenez ke ta Facebook-amiki nultempe interesabis su pri auxiliara lingui e mem ne savis ke tala lingui existas. Yen do bona okaziono por informar li. To ne signifikas ke li quik o mem uldie lernos la linguo o divenos idisti. Tamen esas bona ed utila ke homi ordinare exter la normala “Ido-cirklo” adminime saveskas ulo pri la existo di nia idiomo. To sendubite donas videbleso a la linguo, kontraste al kolda klozeso (quaze ermiteso) dil Ido-grupi che Yahoo.

ULI povus nur ganar per havar oficala pagino che Facebook, ed Ido kom linguo e movado certe recevus propulso se plu multa experta idisti komencus frequentar Facebook e helpus la novici qui aparas ibe e questionas pri linguala ed altra temi. Ibe, exemple, on forte sentas la manko di experta indijena parolanti di la Angla (yes, me vizas vi, James Chandler, Robert Carnaghan e David Weston, i.a.), pro ke la novici en la komenco tendencas uzar ta linguo e demandar traduko di Angla vorti ed expresuri. Me joyus se anke Partaka, Madonna ed altra savoza samideani volus e povus partoprenar. To certe helpus plufortigar la movado ed igar la linguo plu atraktiva e plu interesanta.

Kordiale,

Gonçalo Neves



--------------030406070308090806090401--- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24545 Return-Path: X-Sender: eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45492 invoked by uid 102); 9 Nov 2013 19:32:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.143) by m12.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 19:32:24 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 22629 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2013 19:32:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO moutng.kundenserver.de) (212.227.126.186) by mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 19:32:24 -0000 X-Received: from [192.168.2.101] (i59F704A9.versanet.de [89.247.4.169]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MCOfZ-1VWjp6398b-009LRL; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 20:32:22 +0100 Message-ID: <527E8DC4.3010600@idolinguo.de> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 20:32:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com References: <2013119163631.738788@D9B5MN3J> In-Reply-To: <2013119163631.738788@D9B5MN3J> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:7H8F3TkSZHsNX4H+6F5yWNclIRY1/wGTmS9jQPBUMT2 YmHd4d3iPxpo2Cb9WJ/9pumobfSUp6NvyO4ZnyzL5OZU1JF2O2 Fpj+AMGhWEIwyMYGMaEkEP31OXzx3oMib6IY0oJPVXEWs7vy/G El9EMlg0/CLc2ZEh8zVpC7KnbOInPoPvEVSeissBctoHrLtjQd yFYZ3G7EDO5fZ++g30f9yBXiMoK8nQJPWfek1VP8V0xqwzbKol hX5Y7+yIphRmoJjfL94Im6x7+J9ySSg3qkMEGguHrSvWr2NoIV x0cdynYjoU0OV8c7fTMjN8Q0lFag1KdkrJSrjzJiuzKr3UjSHE qjqB7CHm0tMCNy6g/1xE= X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:1 From: Eberhard Scholz Subject: Re: [idolisto] RE: La Serchado X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=23339976; y=jolub0qghxldnIrLAasjFuZ9LsiR0sGzf4k3jRnI52LPafXQ4e_W X-Yahoo-Profile: e_scholz2002 Kara Robert, me dankas pro tua remarko. Kordiale Eberhard > Kara Hans, > > Esas (od esis) Terry Minty (tale) qua havis la stoko precipua en Britania di Idala libri por vendo. Il raportis a David Weston pri vendi. Me ne savas pri la situeso dum recenta yari, o pri la stando di Terry, ma me esperas ke David informos ni. > > Hans ed Eberhard: ica forumo esas publika e lektebla da irgu, Ne esas bona publikigar adresi elektronikala di membri; tala adresi esas rapide trovebla e kolektebla per "programi". Me replasis tala adresi sube per "XXXXXXX". > > Kordiale, > Robert C. > > > On 5 Nov 2013 22:53:11 +0100, XXXXXXX wrote: > Do Terry Mint ne plu vendas libri, ka? Lore, ube me povas obtenar exemplero o fotokopiuro de La Serchado? > > Saluti amikala, > > Hans Stuifbergen > > -- > La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza) > ----Origineel Bericht---- > Van : XXXXXXX > Datum : 05/11/2013 21:39 > Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com > Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] RE: La Serchado > > > Kara Hans, > > anke en 2008 me korespondis kun Nic Ap Glyn. Yen un mesajo di la famoza Wals-ano: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Estimata amiko, > > La propozo esas forjetar ta libri qui ne pluse havas irga valoro - ti qui ne esas en vendebla stando e di qui ni havas troa nombro de kopiuri. Mili de libri restos pose. Ma me vere bezonas riposedar mea domo. Oldega libri ne atraktos nova adheranti e do nova verki mustas remplasar li. > > Me ne savas kad esos posibla por me asistar Ido-konfero pro laborala e familiala obligesi. > Nic ap Glyn > ------------------------- > From: "Eberhard Scholz" XXXXXXX > To: "Mr A P Glyn" XXXXXXX > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:43 PM > Subject: Libri > > Tre estimata amiko, > > hazarde me saveskis pri vua stoko dil Idolibri. > La German Ido-societo, en qua me esas un komitatano, > tre interesas konservar la librala trezoro. > Nulo darfas forjetesar, me tre pregas. > Mea espero, ke vu ri-aktiveskos en la Idala movemento > ulatempe, ne esas justa, kad yes ? > Me tre esperis ke vu ankorfoye helpos trovar > Britana kunlukteri por ca ecelantega komunikilo Ido. > > Quo eventis en Cardiff ? > Amikala saluti > Eberhard Scholz de Berlin > > ------------------------------------------------ > Ka ni Ido-luktanti ya devas riganar ta eminenta Idisto, qua dum la > 90-a yari rezignis pro la tatempa stando dil movemento? > Ka ni ofrus a Nic propozo por organizar renkontro en lua urbo? > > Yen mea respondo koncerne la serchata La Serchado. > > Saluti > Eberhard > > > Von: XXXXXXX > Datum: 05.11.2013 20:51 > > Kara amiki, > > Danko pro via konsili e helpo. Partaka: danko pro la ligo a la Britaniana Ido-librerio. > > Nun mea questiono esas, ka la Britaniana Ido-librerio (Terry Mint) ankore vendas libri? > > Saluti amikala, > > Hans Stuifbergen > Amsterdam > -- > La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza) > ----Origineel Bericht---- > Van : XXXXXXX > Datum : 04/11/2013 19:01 > Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com > Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: La Serchado > > > Hola, Hans! > Ka tu konsultabas la katalogo dil Britaniana Ido-librerio? > Ibe trovesas enlistizita La Serchado, da Andreas Juste: > http://www.idokulturo.tk/katalogo-di-ido-libri > La Germana Ido-librerio, maxim probable, anke havas< /p> > la mencionita ed advere importanta Ido-verko. > Maxim kordial saluto de Barcelona! > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * * > > > > ------------------------------------ > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24546 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72562 invoked by uid 102); 9 Nov 2013 19:39:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.143) by m12.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 19:39:35 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 8037 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2013 19:39:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cpsmtpb-ews08.kpnxchange.com) (213.75.39.13) by mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 19:39:35 -0000 X-Received: from cpsps-ews23.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.189]) by cpsmtpb-ews08.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sat, 9 Nov 2013 20:37:59 +0100 X-Brand: 7abm2Q== X-Received: from CPSMTPM-EML14.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.93]) by cpsps-ews23.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sat, 9 Nov 2013 20:37:58 +0100 X-Received: from cpxpres-msg08.support.local ([10.94.114.41]) by CPSMTPM-EML14.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sat, 9 Nov 2013 20:37:58 +0100 Message-ID: <29806979.316391384025879015.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <527E8B18.5000706@idolinguo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_48093_18363177.1384025879010" X-CP-REPLY-UID: 2981 X-CP-REPLY-UID: 2981 X-CP-REPLY-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-PATH: Importance: 3 (Normal) References: <527E8B18.5000706@idolinguo.de> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Client-IP: IPv4[84.85.150.51] Epoch[1384025879010] Return-Path: jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2013 19:37:58.0919 (UTC) FILETIME=[31F92970:01CEDD83] Date: 9 Nov 2013 20:37:58 +0100 X-RcptDomain: yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl" Reply-To: "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl" Subject: taipar vs tapar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=544479525; y=pJRZ4YmoYUwf9FLMnCAkUwaDbnMJKEynN0BJ0ls4tOOVqAVB-X3vBATrf9ta-t_TI1NT-yQ8MrLCcTU ------=_Part_48093_18363177.13840258790110 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48092_30031780.1384025879010" ------=_Part_48092_30031780.13840258790110 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "taip"-ar ne esas oficala radiko, ka? Ol esas fonetikala riprodukto dil Ang= la 'to type' (Ide: mashino-skribar). Forsan por Ido esas apta 'tap-ar', de = la Franca 'taper'. Ol esas sat proxima l'Angla 'to type', ma sen la diftong= o (en Ido). Saluti amikala, Hans Stuifbergen Amsterdam -- La skopo di la s= tato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza) ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : eberhard= .scholz@idolinguo.de Datum : 09/11/2013 20:20 Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.co= m Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] RE: Idolisto e Facebook = Kar amiki Goncalo e Hermann, anke me konko= rdas kun vi. On ne mustas furnisar onua privataji a la FB. = Kordiale Eberhard PS. Obliviez mea antea mesajo, me mis-taip= is ! Von: Datum:= 08.11.2013 20:26 Kar amiki, me tote ko= nsentas. Nuntempe me precipue okupas me pri Volap=C3=BCk, e per la no= va formizo (nomizita 'neo') di la Yahoo-grupi multa dokumenti ed arki= vi neplus esas acesebla en la Volap=C3=BCk-grupo che Yahoo. La vivo V= olap=C3=BCkala nun precipue eventas che Facebook. NO ESAS NECESA furn= isar irga detali pri vu ipsa, kande vu enskribas vu che Facebook. = Kordiale, Hermann ---In idol= isto@yahoogroups.com, wrote: = Kar amiki, Me komprenas la r= ezervemeso di certena samideani koncerne la= utileso e sekureso di Facebook ed altra sociala reti. Tame= n komprenez ke la sociala reti =E2=80=93 e precipue Faceboo= k =E2=80=93 divenas sempre plu multe popula= ra ed ofte uzata, ne nur inter yuni, ma mem inter homi plu = evoza. Ne nur privati, ma sempre plu ofte anke firmi ed omn= asorta societi ed institucuri rekursas a Fa= cebook por informar sua membri, difuzar novaji, reklamar su= a vari e.c. Evidente che Facebook pululas anke plurspeca = frivoli, fatui, idioti, e mem raskali, eskrok= eri ed obceni. Tamen ico ne eskartas la reala valoro di Fac= ebook kom moderna, facila, rapida, praktikal ed util = komunikeyo, konverseyo, informeyo e mem instrukte= yo. Koncerne la specala fako di auxilia= ra lingui, on povas facile konstatar ke omn= a tala lingui esas bone reprezentata che Facebook. = UEA ed UMI havas sua oficala pagino ibe, e multa tala = lingui e projeti apene konocata sucesas raliar interesat= i e mem adepti per la praktika amikigo-sistemo = di Facebook. Komprenez ke, kompare a la Yahoo-grupi, la = Facebook-etoso esas multe plu agreabla ed atraktiva. Ibe o= n vidas la vizaji di sua amiki, on facile k= onoceskas lua kustumi e gusti, per simpla muso-klikto on po= vas regardar la situeso di lia urbi o vilaji. Omno do diven= as plu intima, quaze familiara. Ne astonese= z do ke la Ido-agado che Facebook esas plu intensa e mem of= te plu interesanta kam che Yahoo. = Altra avantajo di Facebook konsequas de ke mikra = movadi =E2=80=93 quala nia =E2=80=93 obtenas surprizanta vi= debleso ibe. Advere, me ja plurfoye questio= nesis da Facebook-amiki qui vidabis ibe mea mesaji e volis = saveskar en qua linguo me skribabis oli. Komprenez ke ta = Facebook-amiki nultempe interesabis su pri au= xiliara lingui e mem ne savis ke tala lingui existas. Yen = do bona okaziono por informar li. To ne signifikas ke li = quik o mem uldie lernos la linguo o divenos id= isti. Tamen esas bona ed utila ke homi ordinare = exter la normala =E2=80=9CIdo-cirklo=E2=80=9D adminime saveskas ulo pr= i la existo di nia idiomo. To sendubite don= as videbleso a la linguo, kontraste al kolda klozeso (quaze= ermiteso) dil Ido-grupi che Yahoo. = ULI povus nur ganar per havar oficala pagino ch= e Facebook, ed Ido kom linguo e movado certe recevus = propulso se plu multa experta idisti komencus fre= quentar Facebook e helpus la novici qui aparas ibe e = questionas pri linguala ed altra temi. Ibe, exemple, on = forte sentas la manko di experta indijena parolanti = di la Angla (yes, me vizas vi, James Chandler, Robert = Carnaghan e David Weston, i.a.), pro ke la novici en la = komenco tendencas uzar ta linguo e demandar traduko= di Angla vorti ed expresuri. Me joyus se anke Partaka, = Madonna ed altra savoza samideani volus e povus = partoprenar. To certe helpus plufortigar la movado ed iga= r la linguo plu atraktiva e plu interesanta. = Kordiale, Gon=C3=A7= alo Neves = ------=_Part_48092_30031780.13840258790110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"taip"-ar ne esas oficala radiko, ka? Ol esas fonetikala riprodukto di= l Angla 'to type' (Ide: mashino-skribar). Forsan por Ido esas apta 'ta= p-ar', de la Franca 'taper'. Ol esas sat proxima l'Angla 'to type', ma sen = la diftongo (en Ido).
 
Saluti amikala,
=  
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la = stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van= : eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de
Datum : 09/11/2013 20:20
Aan : idolis= to@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] RE: Idolisto e Facebook
 

Kar amiki Goncalo e Hermann,

anke me konkord= as kun vi.
On ne mustas furnisar onua privataji a la FB.
=
Kordiale
Eberhard
PS. Obliviez mea antea m= esajo, me mis-taipis !



Von: <= hphilipps@onlinehome.de>
Datum: 08.11.2013 20:26
<= /div>
Kar amiki,
me tote konsentas. Nuntempe m= e precipue okupas me pri Volap=C3=BCk, e per la nova formizo (nomizit= a 'neo') di la Yahoo-grupi multa dokumenti ed arkivi neplus esas aces= ebla en la Volap=C3=BCk-grupo che Yahoo. La vivo Volap=C3=BCkala nun = precipue eventas che Facebook. NO ESAS NECESA furnisar irga detali pr= i vu ipsa, kande vu enskribas vu che Facebook.

K= ordiale,
Hermann



---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

=

Kar amiki,

Me komprenas la rezervemeso di certena = samideani koncerne la utileso e sekureso di Facebook = ed altra sociala reti. Tamen komprenez ke l= a sociala reti =E2=80=93 e precipue Facebook =E2=80=93 dive= nas sempre plu multe populara ed ofte uzata, ne nur inter y= uni, ma mem inter homi plu evoza. Ne nur pr= ivati, ma sempre plu ofte anke firmi ed omnasorta societi e= d institucuri rekursas a Facebook por informar sua membri, = difuzar novaji, reklamar sua vari e.c. Evid= ente che Facebook pululas anke plurspeca frivoli, fatui, id= ioti, e mem raskali, eskrokeri ed obceni. Tamen ico ne eska= rtas la reala valoro di Facebook kom modern= a, facila, rapida, praktikal ed util komunikeyo, konverseyo= , informeyo e mem instrukteyo.

=

=

Koncerne la specala fako di au= xiliara lingui, on povas facile konstatar k= e omna tala lingui esas bone reprezentata che Facebook. = UEA ed UMI havas sua oficala pagino ibe, e multa tala = lingui e projeti apene konocata sucesas raliar inte= resati e mem adepti per la praktika amikigo-sistemo = di Facebook. Komprenez ke, kompare a la Yahoo-grupi, la = Facebook-etoso esas multe plu agreabla ed atraktiva. = Ibe on vidas la vizaji di sua amiki, on facile = konoceskas lua kustumi e gusti, per simpla muso-klikto = on povas regardar la situeso di lia urbi o vilaji. Omno do = divenas plu intima, quaze familiara. Ne ast= onesez do ke la Ido-agado che Facebook esas plu intensa e m= em ofte plu interesanta kam che Yahoo.

=

Altra avantajo di Faceb= ook konsequas de ke mikra movadi =E2=80=93 = quala nia =E2=80=93 obtenas surprizanta videbleso ibe. Adve= re, me ja plurfoye questionesis da Facebook-amiki qui vidab= is ibe mea mesaji e volis saveskar en qua l= inguo me skribabis oli. Komprenez ke ta Facebook-amiki nult= empe interesabis su pri auxiliara lingui e mem ne savis ke = tala lingui existas. Yen do bona okaziono p= or informar li. To ne signifikas ke li quik o mem uldie = lernos la linguo o divenos idisti. Tamen esas bona ed = utila ke homi ordinare exter la normala =E2=80=9CId= o-cirklo=E2=80=9D adminime saveskas ulo pri la existo di ni= a idiomo. To sendubite donas videbleso a la linguo, kontras= te al kolda klozeso (quaze ermiteso) dil Id= o-grupi che Yahoo.

ULI povus nur g= anar per havar oficala pagino che Facebook,= ed Ido kom linguo e movado certe recevus propulso se plu m= ulta experta idisti komencus frequentar Facebook e helpus l= a novici qui aparas ibe e questionas pri li= nguala ed altra temi. Ibe, exemple, on forte sentas la mank= o di experta indijena parolanti di la Angla (yes, me vizas = vi, James Chandler, Robert Carnaghan e Davi= d Weston, i.a.), pro ke la novici en la komenco tendencas u= zar ta linguo e demandar traduko di Angla vorti ed = expresuri. Me joyus se anke Partaka, Madonna ed alt= ra savoza samideani volus e povus partoprenar. To certe hel= pus plufortigar la movado ed igar la linguo plu atraktiva e= plu interesanta.

Kordiale,

<= p>Gon=C3=A7alo Neves<= /p>

=



------=_Part_48092_30031780.13840258790110-- ------=_Part_48093_18363177.13840258790110-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24547 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79338 invoked by uid 102); 9 Nov 2013 19:48:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.33) by m1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 19:48:52 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 23185 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2013 19:48:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com) (213.75.39.4) by mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 19:48:52 -0000 X-Received: from cpsps-ews08.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.175]) by cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sat, 9 Nov 2013 20:44:03 +0100 X-Brand: 7abm2Q== X-Received: from CPSMTPM-EML12.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.91]) by cpsps-ews08.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sat, 9 Nov 2013 20:44:03 +0100 X-Received: from cpxpres-msg08.support.local ([10.94.114.41]) by CPSMTPM-EML12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sat, 9 Nov 2013 20:44:02 +0100 Message-ID: <1605227.316751384026243252.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <527E8DC4.3010600@idolinguo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_48138_5837732.1384026243246" X-CP-REPLY-UID: 2983 X-CP-REPLY-UID: 2983 X-CP-REPLY-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-PATH: Importance: 3 (Normal) References: <2013119163631.738788@D9B5MN3J> <527E8DC4.3010600@idolinguo.de> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Client-IP: IPv4[84.85.150.51] Epoch[1384026243246] Return-Path: jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2013 19:44:02.0993 (UTC) FILETIME=[0AFA7210:01CEDD84] Date: 9 Nov 2013 20:44:02 +0100 X-RcptDomain: yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:0 From: "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl" Reply-To: "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl" Subject: RE: La Serchado/e-postal adresi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=544479525; y=ze_K6kjrb2p8CBM_I5O80uQI3OqnQUX9MVzpY7r7D3yhTFisFXbF_URnXz22VFXYBhlpF5XOXzqLBic ------=_Part_48138_5837732.13840262432466 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48137_2038728.1384026243245" ------=_Part_48137_2038728.13840262432455 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, anke me dankas. Me ne bone reflektis la posibla efekti skribar la plen= a e-postal adreso di persono. Pardonez me. Cetere, ka ne simple suficas nur= interpozar kelka x-i (od altra simbolo), en e-postal adresi? Exemple: h.st= uifbXXXergen@e-posto.mo ? Cetere, me dankas ambe Eberhard Scholz, Robert Ca= rnaghan e Partaka pro lia informi koncernante la libro-servo da Terry Minty= . Saluti amikala, Hans Stuifbergen Amsterdam -- La skopo di la stato esas l= ibereso.(B. de Spinoza) ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : eXXXXXXX.de Datum := 09/11/2013 20:32 Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto]= RE: La Serchado Kara Robert, me dankas pro = tua remarko. Kordiale Eberhard > Kara Hans, > > Esas (od esis) Terry Minty = (tale) qua havis la stoko precipua en Britania di Idala libri por vendo. Il= raportis a David Weston pri vendi. Me ne savas pri la situeso dum recenta = yari, o pri la stando di Terry, ma me esperas ke David informos ni. > > Han= s ed Eberhard: ica forumo esas publika e lektebla da irgu, Ne esas bona pub= likigar adresi elektronikala di membri; tala adresi esas rapide trovebla e = kolektebla per "programi". Me replasis tala adresi sube per "XXXXXXX". > > = Kordiale, > Robert C. > > > On 5 Nov 2013 22:53:11 +0100, XXXXXXX wrote: > = Do Terry Mint ne plu vendas libri, ka? Lore, ube me povas obtenar exemplero= o fotokopiuro de La Serchado? > > Saluti amikala, > > Hans Stuifbergen > >= -- > La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza) > ----Origineel Be= richt---- > Van : XXXXXXX > Datum : 05/11/2013 21:39 > Aan : idolisto@yahoo= groups.com > Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] RE: La Serchado > > > Kara Hans, > = > anke en 2008 me korespondis kun Nic Ap Glyn. Yen un mesajo di la famoza= Wals-ano: > ---------------------------------------------------------- >= > Estimata amiko, > > La propozo esas forjetar ta libri qui ne pluse hav= as irga valoro - ti qui ne esas en vendebla stando e di qui ni havas troa n= ombro de kopiuri. Mili de libri restos pose. Ma me vere bezonas riposedar m= ea domo. Oldega libri ne atraktos nova adheranti e do nova verki mustas rem= plasar li. > > Me ne savas kad esos posibla por me asistar Ido-konfero pr= o laborala e familiala obligesi. > Nic ap Glyn > ----------------------= --- > From: "Eberhard Scholz" XXXXXXX > To: "Mr A P Glyn" XXXXXXX > S= ent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:43 PM > Subject: Libri > > Tre estimata ami= ko, > > hazarde me saveskis pri vua stoko dil Idolibri. > La German Ido= -societo, en qua me esas un komitatano, > tre interesas konservar la libr= ala trezoro. > Nulo darfas forjetesar, me tre pregas. > Mea espero, ke= vu ri-aktiveskos en la Idala movemento > ulatempe, ne esas justa, kad ye= s ? > Me tre esperis ke vu ankorfoye helpos trovar > Britana kunlukteri= por ca ecelantega komunikilo Ido. > > Quo eventis en Cardiff ? > Amika= la saluti > Eberhard Scholz de Berlin > > -----------------------------= ------------------- > Ka ni Ido-luktanti ya devas riganar ta eminenta Idi= sto, qua dum la > 90-a yari rezignis pro la tatempa stando dil movemento?= > Ka ni ofrus a Nic propozo por organizar renkontro en lua urbo? > > Y= en mea respondo koncerne la serchata La Serchado. > > Saluti > Eberhard= > > > Von: XXXXXXX > Datum: 05.11.2013 20:51 > > Kara amiki, > > Danko= pro via konsili e helpo. Partaka: danko pro la ligo a la Britaniana Ido-li= brerio. > > Nun mea questiono esas, ka la Britaniana Ido-librerio (Terry Mi= nt) ankore vendas libri? > > Saluti amikala, > > Hans Stuifbergen > Amsterd= am > -- > La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza) > ----Origin= eel Bericht---- > Van : XXXXXXX > Datum : 04/11/2013 19:01 > Aan : id= olisto@yahoogroups.com > Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: La Serchado > > > Hol= a, Hans! > Ka tu konsultabas la katalogo dil Britaniana Ido-librerio? > Ibe= trovesas enlistizita La Serchado, da Andreas Juste: > http://www.idokultur= o.tk/katalogo-di-ido-libri > La Germana Ido-librerio, maxim probable, anke = havas< /p> > la mencionita ed advere importanta Ido-verko. > Maxim kordial = saluto de Barcelona! > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * * > > > > --------= ---------------------------- > ------=_Part_48137_2038728.13840262432455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Cetere, me dankas ambe Eberhard Scho= lz, Robert Carnaghan e Partaka pro lia informi koncernante la lib= ro-servo da Terry Minty.
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la = stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van= : eXXXXXXX.de
Datum : 09/1= 1/2013 20:32
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto= ] RE: La Serchado

&nbs= p;

Kara Robert,=

me dankas pro tua remarko.

Kordiale
Eberhard
> Kara Hans,
>
> Esas (od esis) Terry Minty (tale) qua h= avis la stoko precipua en Britania di Idala libri por vendo. Il raportis a = David Weston pri vendi. Me ne savas pri la situeso dum recenta yari, o pri = la stando di Terry, ma me esperas ke David informos ni.
>
> H= ans ed Eberhard: ica forumo esas publika e lektebla da irgu, Ne esas bona p= ublikigar adresi elektronikala di membri; tala adresi esas rapide trovebla = e kolektebla per "programi". Me replasis tala adresi sube per "XXXXXXX". >
> Kordiale,
> Robert C.
>
>
> On = 5 Nov 2013 22:53:11 +0100, XXXXXXX wrote:
> Do Terry Mint ne plu ven= das libri, ka? Lore, ube me povas obtenar exemplero o fotokopiuro de La Ser= chado?
>
> Saluti amikala,
>
> Hans Stuifbergen=
>
> --
> La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Sp= inoza)
> ----Origineel Bericht----
> Van : XXXXXXX
> D= atum : 05/11/2013 21:39
> Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
> On= derwerp : Re: [idolisto] RE: La Serchado
>
>
> Kara Ha= ns,
>
> anke en 2008 me korespondis kun Nic Ap Glyn. Yen un= mesajo di la famoza Wals-ano:
> ---------------------------------= -------------------------
>
> Estimata amiko,
>
&g= t; La propozo esas forjetar ta libri qui ne pluse havas irga valoro - ti = qui ne esas en vendebla stando e di qui ni havas troa nombro de kopiuri. Mi= li de libri restos pose. Ma me vere bezonas riposedar mea domo. Oldega libr= i ne atraktos nova adheranti e do nova verki mustas remplasar li.
><= br> > Me ne savas kad esos posibla por me asistar Ido-konfero pro labo= rala e familiala obligesi.
> Nic ap Glyn
> --------------= -----------
> From: "Eberhard Scholz" XXXXXXX
> To: "Mr A= P Glyn" XXXXXXX
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:43 PM
> = Subject: Libri
>
> Tre estimata amiko,
>
> h= azarde me saveskis pri vua stoko dil Idolibri.
> La German Ido-soc= ieto, en qua me esas un komitatano,
> tre interesas konservar la l= ibrala trezoro.
> Nulo darfas forjetesar, me tre pregas.
>= Mea espero, ke vu ri-aktiveskos en la Idala movemento
> ulatemp= e, ne esas justa, kad yes ?
> Me tre esperis ke vu ankorfoye helpo= s trovar
> Britana kunlukteri por ca ecelantega komunikilo Ido. >
> Quo eventis en Cardiff ?
> Amikala saluti
&g= t; Eberhard Scholz de Berlin
>
> ------------------------= ------------------------
> Ka ni Ido-luktanti ya devas riganar ta = eminenta Idisto, qua dum la
> 90-a yari rezignis pro la tatempa st= ando dil movemento?
> Ka ni ofrus a Nic propozo por organizar renk= ontro en lua urbo?
>
> Yen mea respondo koncerne la serchat= a La Serchado.
>
> Saluti
> Eberhard
>
= >
> Von: XXXXXXX
> Datum: 05.11.2013 20:51
> > Kara amiki,
>
> Danko pro via konsili e helpo. Partaka= : danko pro la ligo a la Britaniana Ido-librerio.
>
> Nun me= a questiono esas, ka la Britaniana Ido-librerio (Terry Mint) ankore vendas = libri?
>
> Saluti amikala,
>
> Hans Stuifbergen=
> Amsterdam
> --
> La skopo di la stato esas libere= so.(B. de Spinoza)
> ----Origineel Bericht----
> Van : XXXX= XXX
> Datum : 04/11/2013 19:01
> Aan : idolisto@yahoogrou= ps.com
> Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: La Serchado
>
><= br> > Hola, Hans!
> Ka tu konsultabas la katalogo dil Britaniana = Ido-librerio?
> Ibe trovesas enlistizita La Serchado, da Andreas Jus= te:
> http://www.idokulturo.tk/katalogo-di-ido-libri
> La Ger= mana Ido-librerio, maxim probable, anke havas< /p>
> la mencio= nita ed advere importanta Ido-verko.
> Maxim kordial saluto de Barce= lona!
> P A R T A K A
> * * * * * * * * * *
>
>=
>
> ------------------------------------
>

=


=

------=_Part_48137_2038728.13840262432455-- ------=_Part_48138_5837732.13840262432466-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24548 Return-Path: X-Sender: eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72431 invoked by uid 102); 9 Nov 2013 21:24:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.37) by m3.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 21:24:30 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 6689 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2013 21:24:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO moutng.kundenserver.de) (212.227.17.9) by mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2013 21:24:29 -0000 X-Received: from [192.168.2.101] (i59F704A9.versanet.de [89.247.4.169]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MGoVt-1VSJjQ0scb-00DjKc; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:24:29 +0100 Message-ID: <527EA80C.6080603@idolinguo.de> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:24:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com References: <527E8B18.5000706@idolinguo.de> <29806979.316391384025879015.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> In-Reply-To: <29806979.316391384025879015.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:GQmO1DNMrn5ri4n8aaWvi5hyMhVC1ztUnuSG9fXFYJP BHIPGZFP1Sy4v29Z/5UZAElarXWjullLZ6vXWL8KVza6DDABPd Z0G/65K71kvdHlWCbzvxqDvT552rl6CQUTusbMCfHPA1RYbEmc rqqXDFoQRW27Wwgq33Uo2xxMIpx+LKirKHmCcQgxwanI+wJCx5 xKj7tuGPAKRlZaVRtm76c9CcTkSKMiL6tQt7dIUsxXBwsIaFAN kx0piYmS43YD6y6Z5tr9C5QF3VmkoGW5KsIwNZjODyIc8+AH5Y kY/PC/RX/KTwOIktIIZvVCg9vbQhLXScEsIjVOw0jgq9YZjJCB Aiq8FsP37o+nk0WWOpt4= X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Eberhard Scholz Subject: Re: [idolisto] taipar vs tapar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=23339976; y=77avlLoNsSJOZNXeru8sHi7U3EqYE_bYWJszDUVHs7m4x4ng49GM X-Yahoo-Profile: e_scholz2002 Kara Hans, me opinionas, ke "tapar" havas altra signifiko en mea radikaro. En la SIL di nia amiko Goncalo on lektas "taypar". Me konjektas ja lektir en ica listo la vorto "taipar". Kun tardeso anke me gratulas tu okazione tua aniversario, tre kordiale Eberhard From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24549 Return-Path: X-Sender: gneves64@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40175 invoked by uid 102); 10 Nov 2013 00:40:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq3.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.142) by m6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2013 00:40:45 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 29763 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2013 00:40:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-qa0-f51.google.com) (209.85.216.51) by mtaq3.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2013 00:40:45 -0000 X-Received: by mail-qa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id hu16so798633qab.17 for ; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:40:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.27.226 with SMTP id w2mr34754508qeg.32.1384044044795; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:40:44 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.96.115.232 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 16:40:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <527E8839.8040901@idolinguo.de> References: <527E8839.8040901@idolinguo.de> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:40:44 +0000 Message-ID: To: Idolisto Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc0c72a4c50c04eac7dd62 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Gon=C3=A7alo_Neves?= Subject: Re: [idolisto] Taktiko-manualo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=532016623; y=g2YqR6SWn5Sh8neDqZ-8X3AKL1kvitdchVPlRlrkJMrD4S8lN5jKpA X-Yahoo-Profile: goncalo_neves --047d7bdc0c72a4c50c04eac7dd62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Danko, Eberhard. Pose skribez a me private pri la afero, me pregas. 2013/= 11/9 Eberhard Scholz > > > Kara Goncalo, > = > me opinionas vidir un exemplero en "nia" arkivo en Berlin. > Catempe ni e= sas preparanta nia kontributajo por la EXpolingua. > Pro to me komunikos po= se ulo plu preciza a tu. > > Amikale > Eberhard > > > Von: > Datum: 08.11.2013 21:06 > > Kar amiki, > > > > = Kad ulu havas yena verko: > > > > Taktiko-manualo por Ido-propago, da Heinz= Jacob ed Ilmari Federn. Berlin: > Editerio Ido-Centrale (Hermann Jacob) 19= 31. > > > > --047d7bdc0c72a4c50c04eac7dd62 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Danko, Eberhard. Pose skribez a me private pri la afero, m= e pregas.


2013= /11/9 Eberhard Scholz <eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de>
=C2=A0 <= div>

Kara Goncal= o,

me opinionas vidir un exemplero en "nia" = arkivo en Berlin.
Catempe ni esas preparanta nia kontributajo por= la EXpolingua.
Pro to me komunikos pose ulo plu preciza a tu.
Amikale
Eberhard


= Von:
Datum: 08.11.2013 21:06

Kar amiki,

=C2= =A0

Kad ulu havas yena verko:

=C2=A0

Taktiko-manualo por Ido-propago, da Heinz Jacob ed Ilmari Federn. = Berlin: Editerio Ido-Centrale (Hermann Jacob) 1931.

=

--047d7bdc0c72a4c50c04eac7dd62-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24550 Return-Path: X-Sender: gneves64@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44262 invoked by uid 102); 10 Nov 2013 00:50:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.37) by m12.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2013 00:50:55 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 24725 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2013 00:50:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wi0-f174.google.com) (209.85.212.174) by mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2013 00:50:55 -0000 X-Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id cb5so864465wib.13 for ; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:50:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.79.163 with SMTP id k3mr4774486wix.34.1384044654814; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:50:54 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.194.10.4 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 16:50:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <527EA80C.6080603@idolinguo.de> References: <527E8B18.5000706@idolinguo.de> <29806979.316391384025879015.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> <527EA80C.6080603@idolinguo.de> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:50:54 +0000 Message-ID: To: Idolisto Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043d655700ef9204eac80252 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Gon=C3=A7alo_Neves?= Subject: Re: [idolisto] taipar vs tapar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=532016623; y=PHand0jz1VmQ_bluUmgTWHYesLuMoZMiSz_YHA1ysIzVR1iv-RimjQ X-Yahoo-Profile: goncalo_neves --f46d043d655700ef9204eac80252 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 'tapar' esas oficala radiko ja de longe. Ol esas teknikala vorto (videz la = defino che Persiko). Pri *taipar: me ne plus defensas formi quala *taypar,= *fayro. Me havis tala opiniono kande me skribis SIL, kelka yari ante nun, = ma dume me chanjis mea judiko, e nun me opinionas ke esas preferinda manten= ar la tradicionala formi (fairo, edc) ed enduktar nova vorti konforma a le = tradicional (*taipar, edc). Evidente SIL bezonas revizo por divenar kongrua= nta kun ica nova kriterio. 2013/11/9 Eberhard Scholz > > > Kara Hans, > > me opinionas, ke "tapar" havas altra signif= iko en mea radikaro. > En la SIL di nia amiko Goncalo on lektas "taypar". >= Me konjektas ja lektir en ica listo la vorto "taipar". > > Kun tardeso ank= e me gratulas tu okazione tua aniversario, > > tre kordiale > Eberhard > = > --f46d043d655700ef9204eac80252 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
'tapar' esas oficala ra= diko ja de longe. Ol esas teknikala vorto (videz la defino che Persiko).
=C2=A0
Pri *= taipar: me ne plus defensas formi quala *taypar, *fayro. Me havis tala opin= iono kande me skribis SIL, kelka yari ante nun, ma dume me chanjis mea judi= ko, e nun me opinionas ke esas preferinda mantenar la tradicionala formi (f= airo, edc) ed enduktar nova=C2=A0vorti konforma a le tradicional (*taipar, = edc).=C2=A0Evidente SIL bezonas revizo por divenar kongruanta kun ica nova = kriterio.=C2=A0

2013/11/9 Eberhard= Scholz <eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de>
=C2=A0
=

Kara Hans,

me opinionas, ke &quo= t;tapar" havas altra signifiko en mea radikaro.
En la SIL di nia a= miko Goncalo on lektas "taypar".
Me konjektas ja lektir en ic= a listo la vorto "taipar".

Kun tardeso anke me gratulas = tu okazione tua aniversario,

tre kordiale
Eberhard

=

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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hola! Quale povas askoltar en Youtube od en CD? Me ludar gitaro e dezirar n= oti kun akordi. =C2=A0 Amike=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kjell (Shell) Randehed Suedia = Den s=C3=B6ndag, 10 november 2013 11:50 skrev "gneves64@gmail.com" : =C2=A0 Kad ulu de nia Britaniana samideani povus traduka= r la Ido-himno al Angla? (Ne suciez la rimi). Me predankas. Yen la Ido-text= o: =C2=A0 Yen ni venas mikra Idistaro Kun ideo bel e praktikal, Por montrar= ad obstinem homaro Maxim bona verko mondlingual, Lernez Ido simpla e spar= ema Nam stranjera lingui desfacil Esas nur obstakli disipema, Qui impedas a= gi plu fertil. Helpez do per honoroz kombato, Frati sur la tero sospirant,= Al felica e vinkoza fato, Quan meritas linguo unigant=C2=A0! Vivez Ido, n= ia grand idolo, Kom la vera linguo futural! Brilez stelo, nia kar simbolo, = Klare tra la mondo unesal! ---1610926429-265422746-1384088276=:984229 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hola!
Quale povas askoltar = en Youtube od en CD? Me ludar gitaro e dezirar noti kun akordi.
 
Amike 
 
Kjell (Shell) Randehed
Suedia
Den s=C3=B6ndag, 10 november 2013 11:50 skrev "gneves64@gmail.com" = :
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= Kad ulu de nia Britaniana samideani povus tradukar la Ido-himno al Angla? (Ne suciez la rimi). Me predank= as. Yen la Ido-texto:
 
Yen ni venas mikra Idistar= o
Kun ideo bel e praktikal,
Por montrar= ad obstinem homaro
Maxim bona verko mondlingual,
Lernez Ido simpla e sparema
Nam str= anjera lingui desfacil
Esas nur obstakli disipema,
Qui impedas agi plu fertil.
Helpez= do per honoroz kombato,
Frati sur la tero sospirant,
Al felica e vinkoza fato,
Quan meritas lin= guo unigant !
Vivez Ido, nia grand idolo,=
Kom la vera linguo futural!
Brilez st= elo, nia kar simbolo,
Klare tra la mondo unesal!
=

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Saluti amikala,
 
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Amsterdam
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11.11.13 00:40, jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl пишет:
Me hazarde renkontris ca pagini:
 
 
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
Mirinde.
Memtempe me laboras pri la problemi di interkomprenado inter esperantisti ed idisti.
Se vu bone komprenas esperanta texto, dicez a me, me auskultos :D
--------------080502030401060903060406--- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24557 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60307 invoked by uid 102); 10 Nov 2013 21:05:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.37) by m7.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2013 21:05:41 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 11608 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2013 21:05:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cpsmtpb-ews06.kpnxchange.com) (213.75.39.9) by mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2013 21:05:40 -0000 X-Received: from cpsps-ews14.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.181]) by cpsmtpb-ews06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sun, 10 Nov 2013 22:05:40 +0100 X-Brand: 7abm2Q== X-Received: from CPSMTPM-EML08.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.78]) by cpsps-ews14.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sun, 10 Nov 2013 22:05:40 +0100 X-Received: from cpxpres-msg17.support.local ([10.94.114.63]) by CPSMTPM-EML08.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sun, 10 Nov 2013 22:05:39 +0100 Message-ID: <11851875.279181384117540099.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_42444_3466568.1384117540092" X-CP-REPLY-UID: 2994 X-CP-REPLY-PATH: INBOX Importance: 3 (Normal) References: <527E8B18.5000706@idolinguo.de> <29806979.316391384025879015.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> <527EA80C.6080603@idolinguo.de> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Client-IP: IPv4[84.85.150.51] Epoch[1384117540093] Return-Path: jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2013 21:05:39.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C25E2E0:01CEDE58] Date: 10 Nov 2013 22:05:39 +0100 X-RcptDomain: yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl" Reply-To: "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl" Subject: Re: Re: [idolisto] taipar vs tapar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=544479525; y=ujO0wwHJ0z43SQ0rGVWLxfTZEm-B3PPBZ0OAeF4hv4H-4B8-aSa5gdM3pt9PgU24s-MqO8l6ix13ABE ------=_Part_42444_3466568.13841175400922 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_42443_16645017.1384117540092" ------=_Part_42443_16645017.13841175400992 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Eberhard e Gon=C3=A7alo, Danko pri via amba reakti. Me ne savis pri l'= existo di 'tapar', me povus savar, ma ne bone facis mea studio di Ido-lingu= o. Do, lore me aceptos 'taipar', provizore, quankam 'mashin-skribar' ankore= esas tre klara, ka ne? Danko pro la gratuli, Eberhard. Saluti amikala, Han= s Stuifbergen Amsterdam -- La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoz= a) ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : gneves64@gmail.com Datum : 10/11/2013 01= :50 Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] taipar vs tap= ar 'tapar' esas oficala radiko ja de longe. = Ol esas teknikala vorto (videz la defino che Persiko). Pri *taipar: me n= e plus defensas formi quala *taypar, *fayro. Me havis tala opiniono kande m= e skribis SIL, kelka yari ante nun, ma dume me chanjis mea judiko, e nun me= opinionas ke esas preferinda mantenar la tradicionala formi (fairo, edc) e= d enduktar nova vorti konforma a le tradicional (*taipar, edc). Evidente SI= L bezonas revizo por divenar kongruanta kun ica nova kriterio. 2013/11/9 E= berhard Scholz = Kara Hans, me opinionas, ke "tapar" havas altra signifiko en mea radikaro= . En la SIL di nia amiko Goncalo on lektas "taypar". Me konjektas ja lektir= en ica listo la vorto "taipar". Kun tardeso anke me gratulas tu okazione t= ua aniversario, tre kordiale Eberhard = ------=_Part_42443_16645017.13841175400992 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kara Eberhard e Gon=C3=A7alo,
 
Danko pri via= amba reakti. Me ne savis pri l'existo di 'tapar', me povus savar, ma ne bo= ne facis mea studio di Ido-linguo.
 
Do, lore me a= ceptos 'taipar', provizore, quankam 'mashin-skribar' ankore esas tre klara,= ka ne?
 
Danko pro la gratuli, Eberhard.
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifber= gen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoz= a)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : gneves64@gmail.com
Datum : 1= 0/11/2013 01:50
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : Re: [idoli= sto] taipar vs tapar

&= nbsp;

'tapar' esas oficala radiko ja de longe= . Ol esas teknikala vorto (videz la defino che Persiko).
 
Pri *taipar: me ne = plus defensas formi quala *taypar, *fayro. Me havis tala opiniono kande me = skribis SIL, kelka yari ante nun, ma dume me chanjis mea judiko, e nun me o= pinionas ke esas preferinda mantenar la tradicionala formi (fairo, edc) ed = enduktar nova vorti konforma a le tradicional (*taipar, edc). Evi= dente SIL bezonas revizo por divenar kongruanta kun ica nova kriterio. = ;

2013/11/9 Eberhard Scholz <eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de>
&nbs= p;

Kara Hans,
=
me opinionas, ke "tapar" havas altra signifiko en mea radikaro.
E= n la SIL di nia amiko Goncalo on lektas "taypar".
Me konjektas ja lekti= r en ica listo la vorto "taipar".

Kun tardeso anke me gratulas tu = okazione tua aniversario,

tre kordiale
Eberhard

=
<= /div>



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E mem plu remarkinde:
 
http://neciklope= dio.wikia.com/wiki/James_Chandler
 
Humoroza ma astonante = faktoza!  Qua savas tante multo pri me?

 
To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com
From: jjstuifbergen1961@k= pnmail.nl
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 21:40:37 +0100
Subject: [idolisto] E= sperantisti pri Idisti



Me hazarde renkontris ca pa= gini:
 
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Yes me bona komprenas esperanto i mea spozino dezirar lernar. Kjell R= andehed Den s=C3=B6ndag, 10 november 2013 21:57 skrev Jura=C5=9B Drahun = : =C2=A0 11.11.13 00:40, jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmai= l.nl =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: Me hazarde renkontris ca pagini: > = >http://neciklopedio.wikia.com/wiki/Idisto >http://neciklopedio.wikia.com/= wiki/Sadomaso%C4%A5ismo > > >Saluti amikala, > >Hans Stuifbergen >Amster= dam > >-- >La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza) > Mirinde.= Memtempe me laboras pri la problemi di interkomprenado inter esperanti= sti ed idisti. Se vu bone komprenas esperanta texto, dicez a me, me auskult= os :D ---1236089829-296085411-1384118241=:989772 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hola!
Yes me bona komprenas= esperanto i mea spozino dezirar lernar.
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Memtempe me laboras pri la problemi di interkomprenad= o inter esperantisti ed idisti. Se vu bone komprenas esperanta texto, d= icez a me, me auskultos :D ---293919475-1036090969-1384119449=:645331 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Danko me lektaris e ridis. /


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11.11.13 00:40, jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5= =D1=82:
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Me hazarde renkontris ca pagini:
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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= La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
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Mirinde.
Memtempe me labora= s pri la problemi di interkomprenado inter esperantisti ed idisti.
Se vu bone komprenas esperanta texto, dicez a me, me aus= kultos :D


= ---293919475-1036090969-1384119449=:645331-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24561 Return-Path: X-Sender: gneves64@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 50356 invoked by uid 102); 10 Nov 2013 23:58:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.32) by m11.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2013 23:58:44 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 5302 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2013 23:58:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wi0-f178.google.com) (209.85.212.178) by mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2013 23:58:44 -0000 X-Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hn9so1494531wib.5 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 15:58:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.77.19 with SMTP id o19mr10261895wiw.34.1384127924058; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 15:58:44 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.194.10.4 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 15:58:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1384088276.98429.YahooMailNeo@web171403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1384088276.98429.YahooMailNeo@web171403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 23:58:43 +0000 Message-ID: To: Idolisto Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c7f543cc19d04eadb65e0 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Gon=C3=A7alo_Neves?= Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ido-himno en la Angla X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=532016623; y=nvIJTjutkD2kRthxW6hhbL6liF7RpZDMYYNzzibzYNMwcodL6qYr5A X-Yahoo-Profile: goncalo_neves --f46d043c7f543cc19d04eadb65e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable La Ido-himno esas kantebla kun la muziko di 'La espero' (Esperanto-himno). = 2013/11/10 Doktor Alcoholicus > > > Hola! > Qu= ale povas askoltar en Youtube od en CD? Me ludar gitaro e dezirar noti > ku= n akordi. > > Amike > > Kjell (Shell) Randehed > Suedia > > > Den s=C3=B6= ndag, 10 november 2013 11:50 skrev "gneves64@gmail.com" < > gneves64@gmail.= com>: > > Kad ulu de nia Britaniana samideani povus tradukar la Ido-himno = al > Angla? (Ne suciez la rimi). Me predankas. Yen la Ido-texto: > > Yen ni= venas mikra Idistaro > Kun ideo bel e praktikal, > Por montrar ad obstinem= homaro > Maxim bona verko mondlingual, > Lernez Ido simpla e sparema > Nam= stranjera lingui desfacil > Esas nur obstakli disipema, > Qui impedas agi = plu fertil. > Helpez do per honoroz kombato, > Frati sur la tero sospirant,= > Al felica e vinkoza fato, > Quan meritas linguo unigant ! > Vivez Ido, n= ia grand idolo, > Kom la vera linguo futural! > Brilez stelo, nia kar simbo= lo, > Klare tra la mondo unesal! > > > > --f46d043c7f543cc19d04eadb65e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
La Ido-himno esas kantebla kun la muziko di 'La espero= ' (Esperanto-himno).


2013/11/10 Doktor Alcoholicus <dr_alcoholicus@yahoo= .se>
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Hola!
Quale povas askoltar en Youtube od en CD? Me ludar gitaro e dezirar not= i kun akordi.
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Amike= =C2=A0
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Kjell (Shell) = Randehed
Suedia


Den s=C3=B6ndag, 10 november 2013 11:50 s= krev "gneves64= @gmail.com" <gneves64@gmail.com>:
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Kad ul= u de nia Britaniana samideani povus tradukar la Ido-himno al Ang= la? (Ne suciez la rimi). Me predankas. Yen la Ido-texto:
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Yen ni venas mikra Idistaro
Kun ideo bel e prakt= ikal,
Por montrar ad obstinem homaro
M= axim bona verko mondlingual,
Lernez Ido simpla= e sparema
Nam stranjera lingui desfacil
Esas nur obstakli disipema,
Qui impedas agi plu fertil= .
Helpez do per honoroz kombato,
Frati sur la tero sospirant,
Al felica e vinkoza fat= o,
Quan meritas linguo unigant=C2=A0!
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Vivez Ido, nia grand idolo,
Kom la vera linguo= futural!
Brilez stelo, nia kar simbolo,
Klare tra la mondo unesal!

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--f46d043c7f543cc19d04eadb65e0-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 24562 Return-Path: X-Sender: gneves64@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 73267 invoked by uid 102); 11 Nov 2013 00:03:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq3.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.142) by m4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2013 00:03:43 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 4798 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2013 00:03:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wi0-f178.google.com) (209.85.212.178) by mtaq3.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2013 00:03:43 -0000 X-Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hn9so1499263wib.11 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:03:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.126.103 with SMTP id mx7mr10158689wib.39.1384128222555; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:03:42 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.194.10.4 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:03:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <11851875.279181384117540099.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> References: <527E8B18.5000706@idolinguo.de> <29806979.316391384025879015.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> <527EA80C.6080603@idolinguo.de> <11851875.279181384117540099.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 00:03:42 +0000 Message-ID: To: Idolisto Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f6479d107736d04eadb77ab X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Gon=C3=A7alo_Neves?= Subject: Re: Re: [idolisto] taipar vs tapar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=532016623; y=7BO7rMi1dCdLv8e_jyPvCpYgdRbV1DJbanFsQLzdf8GB-5C13daKSQ X-Yahoo-Profile: goncalo_neves --e89a8f6479d107736d04eadb77ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hans, 'mashin-skribar' esas ya tre klara ed uzinda. Anke la vorto 'tipo-ski= bar', tre populara dum la 30-ma e 40-ma yari dil pasinta yarcento, esas cer= te klara ed uzinda. 2013/11/10 jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl > > > Kara Eberhard e Gon=C3=A7alo, > > Danko pri via am= ba reakti. Me ne savis pri l'existo di 'tapar', me povus > savar, ma ne bon= e facis mea studio di Ido-linguo. > > Do, lore me aceptos 'taipar', provizo= re, quankam 'mashin-skribar' ankore > esas tre klara, ka ne? > > Danko pro = la gratuli, Eberhard. > > Saluti amikala, > > Hans Stuifbergen > Amsterdam = > -- > La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza) > > ----Origineel= Bericht---- > Van : gneves64@gmail.com > Datum : 10/11/2013 01:50 > Aan : = idolisto@yahoogroups.com > Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] taipar vs tapar > > >= > 'tapar' esas oficala radiko ja de longe. Ol esas teknikala vorto (videz = la > defino che Persiko). > > Pri *taipar: me ne plus defensas formi quala = *taypar, *fayro. Me havis > tala opiniono kande me skribis SIL, kelka yari = ante nun, ma dume me chanjis > mea judiko, e nun me opinionas ke esas prefe= rinda mantenar la tradicionala > formi (fairo, edc) ed enduktar nova vorti = konforma a le tradicional > (*taipar, edc). Evidente SIL bezonas revizo por= divenar kongruanta kun ica > nova kriterio. > > 2013/11/9 Eberhard Scholz = > >> >> >> Kara Hans, >> >> me opinionas, ke= "tapar" havas altra signifiko en mea radikaro. >> En la SIL di nia amiko G= oncalo on lektas "taypar". >> Me konjektas ja lektir en ica listo la vorto = "taipar". >> >> Kun tardeso anke me gratulas tu okazione tua aniversario, >= > >> tre kordiale >> Eberhard >> > > > > > --e89a8f6479d107736d04eadb77ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hans, 'mashin-skribar' esas ya tre klara ed uzinda= . Anke la vorto 'tipo-skibar', tre populara dum la 30-ma e 40-ma ya= ri dil pasinta yarcento, esas certe klara ed uzinda.


2013/11/10 jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl <jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl>
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Kara Eberhard e Gon=C3=A7alo,
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Danko pri via amba reakti. Me ne savis pri l'existo di= 'tapar', me povus savar, ma ne bone facis mea studio di Ido-linguo= .
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Do, lore me aceptos 'taipar', provizor= e, quankam 'mashin-skribar' ankore esas tre klara, ka ne?
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Danko pro la gratuli, Eberhard.
=C2=A0
Saluti amikala,
=C2=A0
Hans Stuifbergen
Am= sterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Sp= inoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : gneves64@gmail.com<= br>Datum : 10/11/2013 01:50
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : Re: [i= dolisto] taipar vs tapar

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= 9;tapar' esas oficala radiko ja de longe. Ol esas teknikala vorto (vide= z la defino che Persiko).
=C2=A0
Pri *taipar: me ne plus defensas formi quala *taypar= , *fayro. Me havis tala opiniono kande me skribis SIL, kelka yari ante nun,= ma dume me chanjis mea judiko, e nun me opinionas ke esas preferinda mante= nar la tradicionala formi (fairo, edc) ed enduktar nova=C2=A0vorti konforma= a le tradicional (*taipar, edc).=C2=A0Evidente SIL bezonas revizo por dive= nar kongruanta kun ica nova kriterio.=C2=A0

2013/11/9 Eberhard Scholz <eberhard.scholz@idolinguo= .de>
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Kara Hans,

me opinionas, ke "tapar"= ; havas altra signifiko en mea radikaro.
En la SIL di nia amiko Goncalo= on lektas "taypar".
Me konjektas ja lektir en ica listo la v= orto "taipar".

Kun tardeso anke me gratulas tu okazione = tua aniversario,

tre kordiale
Eberhard

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Sen la konsolaleso dil lektado,  ni mortus nun:  pro= enoyo.
 
Mme de Sevign=C3=A9
 
<= DIV>Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:22 AM
To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [idolisto] Benign= a vicio
 
 

"Tre recente, psiko-depresite, me probis konsolacar me pe= r reflektar pri la joyo-kazi di la homi. Ma ek oli, ne mem nur un aspektis = kom valoroza: nek vino, nek amiki, nek manjo, nek kurtezo, nek la koncio p= ri vertuozeso... Konseque, ka penvaloris riacensar a la mondo, qua ne pova= s ofrar a ni ulo min vulgara? =E2=80=93 Subite me memoris la lektado. Pri = ta delicoza [nun =E2=80=98delicioza=E2=80=99] e subtila feliceso per la le= ktado. To suficis: Ta joyo ne-diminutebla dal oldesko, ta rafinita e ne-pu= nisata vicio, ta egoista, serena, dum-viva ebrieso!=E2=80=9D=

&= nbsp;

L. Pearsall Smith, tardukita da Marcel Pesh (Mikra Buleti= no, 1930, 8(82), p. 87)

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Ma talkaze on devas adicionar a le -al la litero -a!  (-ala)


On 10/11/2013 23:58, Gonçalo Neves wrote:
La Ido-himno esas kantebla kun la muziko di 'La espero' (Esperanto-himno).


2013/11/10 Doktor Alcoholicus 



Hola!
Quale povas askoltar en Youtube od en CD? Me ludar gitaro e dezirar noti
kun akordi.

Amike

Kjell (Shell) Randehed
Suedia


  Den söndag, 10 november 2013 11:50 skrev "gneves64@gmail.com" <
gneves64@gmail.com>:

 Kad ulu de nia Britaniana samideani povus tradukar la Ido-himno al
Angla? (Ne suciez la rimi). Me predankas. Yen la Ido-texto:

Yen ni venas mikra Idistaro
Kun ideo bel e praktikal,
Por montrar ad obstinem homaro
Maxim bona verko mondlingual,
Lernez Ido simpla e sparema
Nam stranjera lingui desfacil
Esas nur obstakli disipema,
Qui impedas agi plu fertil.
Helpez do per honoroz kombato,
Frati sur la tero sospirant,
Al felica e vinkoza fato,
Quan meritas linguo unigant !
Vivez Ido, nia grand idolo,
Kom la vera linguo futural!
Brilez stelo, nia kar simbolo,
Klare tra la mondo unesal!


   



    

    

  


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Ralph, forsan tu esas justa (me ya esas nekompetenta pri muziko).


2013/11=
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>
>
> Ma talkaze on devas adicio=
nar a le -*al* la litero -*a*!  (-ala)
>
>
> On 10/11/2013 23:58, Gon=C3=A7=
alo Neves wrote:
>
> La Ido-himno esas kantebla kun la muziko di 'La espero=
' (Esperanto-himno).
>
>
> 2013/11/10 Doktor Alcoholicus  
>
>
> Hola!
> Quale povas askoltar en You=
tube od en CD? Me ludar gitaro e dezirar noti
> kun akordi.
>
> Amike
>
> K=
jell (Shell) Randehed
> Suedia
>
>
>   Den s=C3=B6ndag, 10 november 2013 11=
:50 skrev "gneves64@gmail.com"  :
>=

>  Kad ulu de nia Britaniana samideani povus tradukar la Ido-himno al
> An=
gla? (Ne suciez la rimi). Me predankas. Yen la Ido-texto:
>
> Yen ni venas =
mikra Idistaro
> Kun ideo bel e praktikal,
> Por montrar ad obstinem homaro=

> Maxim bona verko mondlingual,
> Lernez Ido simpla e sparema
> Nam stranj=
era lingui desfacil
> Esas nur obstakli disipema,
> Qui impedas agi plu fer=
til.
> Helpez do per honoroz kombato,
> Frati sur la tero sospirant,
> Al f=
elica e vinkoza fato,
> Quan meritas linguo unigant !
> Vivez Ido, nia gran=
d idolo,
> Kom la vera linguo futural!
> Brilez stelo, nia kar simbolo,
> K=
lare tra la mondo unesal!
>
>
>
>
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>
>  
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Ralph, forsan tu esas justa (me ya esas nekompetenta pri m=
uziko).


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ze on devas adicionar a le -al
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      On 10/11/2013 23:58, Gon=C3=
=A7alo Neves wrote:

    

    

      La Ido-himno esas kantebla kun la muziko di 'La espero' (Esperant=
o-himno).


2013/11/10 Doktor Alcoholicus 


   =
   

        
Hola!
Quale povas askoltar en Y=
outube od en CD? Me ludar gitaro e dezirar noti
kun akordi.

Amike

Kjell (=
Shell) Randehed
Suedia


  Den s=C3=B6ndag, 10 november 2013 11:50 skrev "gneves64@gmail.=
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Yen ni venas mikra Idistaro
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Por montrar a=
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Maxim bona verko mondlingual,
Lernez Ido simpla e sparema=

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Helpez do per honoroz kombato,
Frati sur la tero sospirant,
Al =
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Quan meritas linguo unigant !
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E nun, estimata samideani, se vi deziras lo,=A0
voluntez kantar *La Espero*=
 kun yena paroli:


Yen ni venas mikra Idistaro
Kun ideo bel e praktikalA,
=
Por montrar ad obstinem homaro
Maxim bona verko mondlingualA,
Lernez Ido si=
mpla e sparema
Nam stranjera lingui desfacilA
Esas nur obstakli disipema,
Q=
ui impedas agi plu fertilA.
Helpez do per honoroz kombato,
Frati sur la ter=
o sospirantA,
Al felica e vinkoza fato,
Quan meritas linguo unigantA !
Vive=
z Ido, nia grand idolo,
Kom la vera linguo futuralA!
Brilez stelo, nia kar =
simbolo,
Klare tra la mondo unesalA!


Saluti e til balde!

P A R T A K A=
=A0
* * * * * * * * *=A0
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -=A0
htt=
p://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -



El Lunes 11 de noviembre d=
e 2013 17:34, Gon=E7alo Neves  escribi=F3:


Ralph, for=
san tu esas justa (me ya esas nekompetenta pri muziko).



2013/11/11 Ralph=
 Midgley 


>=A0 
>Ma talkaze on devas adicionar a l=
e -al la litero -a!=A0 (-ala)
>
>
>On 10/11/2013 23:58, Gon=E7alo Neves wro=
te:
>
>La Ido-himno esas kantebla kun la muziko di 'La espero' (Esperanto-h=
imno). 2013/11/10 Doktor Alcoholicus  
>>Hola!
Qua=
le povas askoltar en Youtube od en CD? Me ludar gitaro e dezirar noti
kun a=
kordi. Amike Kjell (Shell) Randehed
Suedia Den s=F6ndag, 10 november 2013 1=
1:50 skrev "gneves64@gmail.com" < gneves64@gmail.com>: Kad ulu de nia Brita=
niana samideani povus tradukar la Ido-himno al
Angla? (Ne suciez la rimi). =
Me predankas. Yen la Ido-texto:=A0

Yen ni venas mikra Idistaro
Kun ideo be=
l e praktikal,
Por montrar ad obstinem homaro
Maxim bona verko mondlingual,=

Lernez Ido simpla e sparema
Nam stranjera lingui desfacil
Esas nur obstakl=
i disipema,
Qui impedas agi plu fertil.
Helpez do per honoroz kombato,
Frat=
i sur la tero sospirant,
Al felica e vinkoza fato,
Quan meritas linguo unig=
ant !
Vivez Ido, nia grand idolo,
Kom la vera linguo futural!
Brilez stelo,=
 nia kar simbolo,
Klare tra la mondo unesal! 


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Sioro Hans,
 Me esas nova Idisto, do me ne konocas la historio inter Ido ed Esperanto. Me, me volas savar, pro quo espernatisti ne prizas IDO e timas IDO? Pro quo espernatisti ne komprenas ke ed Ido ed Esperanto esas nun lingui?
 

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Me hazarde renkontris ca pagini:
  
 http://neciklopedio.wikia.com/wiki/Idisto http://neciklopedio.wikia.com/wiki/Idisto
 http://neciklopedio.wikia.com/wiki/Sadomaso%C4%A5ismo http://neciklopedio.wikia.com/wiki/Sadomaso%C4%A5ismo
  
  
 Saluti amikala,
  
 Hans Stuifbergen
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Kar idolistani,

Hiere danke ad "open library" me trovis la "English-Intern=
ational Dictionary" da L. De Beaufront e L.Couturat kun la kunlaborado di P=
.D Hugon imprimita dum 1908 en London. 
=C2=A0
Semblas ke l'exemplero venas=
 del universitato Bekeley en California. On povas mem lektar ol direte od e=
nkargar ol sub pdf-versiono.

Kurioze til nun nula refero pri ca dicionario=
 che la Ido-pagini di James Chandler (http://interlanguages.net/yindex.html=
), o che olca di Robert Carnaghan (http://idolinguo.org.uk/), nek che la li=
bro-listo di la Germana Ido-Societo.

Tamen me kredas ke ca dicionario hava=
s granda historiala valoro e povas esas ankor utila malgre la Dyer dicionar=
io.

Videz lo hike:

=C2=A0

https://openlibrary.org/books/OL6527362M/Engli=
sh-international_dictionary


Bona lektado!

Kordiale
Lo=C3=AFc Landais

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Kar idolistani,

Hiere danke ad "open library" me trovis la "English-International Dictionary" da L. De Beaufront e L.Couturat kun la kunlaborado di P.D Hugon imprimita dum 1908 en London. 
 
Semblas ke l'exemplero venas del universitato Bekeley en California. On povas mem lektar ol direte od enkargar ol sub pdf-versiono.

Kurioze til nun nula refero pri ca dicionario che la Ido-pagini di James Chandler (http://interlanguages.net/yindex.html), o che olca di Robert Carnaghan (http://idolinguo.org.uk/), nek che la libro-listo di la Germana Ido-Societo.

Tamen me kredas ke ca dicionario havas granda historiala valoro e povas esas ankor utila malgre la Dyer dicionario.

Videz lo hike:


 


https://openlibrary.org/books/OL6527362M/English-international_dictionary



Bona lektado!

Kordiale
Loïc Landais

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Danko, Lo=C3=AFc, ico esas tre utila!

En 1908 aparis yena sis lexiki da Be=
aufront/Couturat:

Dictionnaire Fran=C3=A7ais-International, 240 p.

Dictio=
nnaire International-Fran=C3=A7ais, 16 + 211 p.

English-International Dict=
ionary, 14 + 270 p.

International-English Dictionary 22 + 230 p.

Deutsch-=
internationales W=C3=B6rterbuch, 376 p.

International-deutsches W=C3=B6rte=
rbuch, 24 + 294 p.

On konsultez ica lexiki precipue kom historial dokument=
i, nam la linguo
pasable chanjis inter 1908 e 1914 (e precipue inter 1908 e=
 1911).


2013/11/13 

>
>
> Kar idolistani,
>
> H=
iere danke ad "open library" me trovis la "English-International
> Dictiona=
ry" da L. De Beaufront e L.Couturat kun la kunlaborado di P.D Hugon
> impri=
mita dum 1908 en London.
>
> Semblas ke l'exemplero venas del universitato =
Bekeley en California. On
> povas mem lektar ol direte od enkargar ol sub p=
df-versiono.
>
> Kurioze til nun nula refero pri ca dicionario che la Ido-p=
agini di James
> Chandler (http://interlanguages.net/yindex.html), o che ol=
ca di Robert
> Carnaghan (http://idolinguo.org.uk/), nek che la libro-listo=
 di la
> Germana Ido-Societo.
>
> Tamen me kredas ke ca dicionario havas gr=
anda historiala valoro e povas
> esas ankor utila malgre la Dyer dicionario=
.
>
> Videz lo hike:
>
>
>
> https://openlibrary.org/books/OL6527362M/Engli=
sh-international_dictionary
>
>
> Bona lektado!
>
> Kordiale
> Lo=C3=AFc La=
ndais
>
>  
>

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Danko, Lo=C3=AFc, ico esas tre utila!
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Dictionnaire Fran=C3=A7ais-International, 240 p.
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Dictionnaire International-Fran=C3=A7ais, 16 + 211 p.<=
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English-International Dictionary, 14 + 270 p.
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International-English Dictionary 22 + 230 p.
=C2=A0
Deutsch-internationales W=C3=B6rterbuch, 376 p.
=C2=A0
International-deutsches W=C3=B6rterbuch, 24 + 294 p.=



=C2=A0
On konsultez ica lexiki=C2=A0precipue kom hist=
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Kar idolistani,

Hiere danke ad "open library" me trovis la=
 "English-International Dictionary" da L. De Beaufront e L.Coutur=
at kun la kunlaborado di P.D Hugon imprimita dum 1908 en London. 
=C2=A0
Semblas ke l'exemplero vena=
s del universitato Bekeley en California. On povas mem lektar ol direte od =
enkargar ol sub pdf-versiono.

Kurioze til nun nula refero pri ca dicionario che la Ido-pagini di James C=
handler (http://interlanguages.net/yindex.html), o che olca di Robert Carnagha=
n (http://idolinguo.=
org.uk/), nek che la libro-listo di la Germana Ido-Societo.

=

Tamen me kredas ke ca dicionario havas =
granda historiala valoro e povas esas ankor utila malgre la Dyer dicionario=
.

Videz lo hike:

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https://openlibrary.org/books/OL6527362M/English-international_dictionary=





Bona lektado!

Kordiale
Lo=C3=AFc Landais


    

     
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Kar amiki,
 
 Yen bona novajo.
 
 Rachel Morris, Ido-lernantino e komputorala programisto Usana, recente adherinta al precipua Ido-grupo che Facebook, jus kreis programo qua posibligas rapida sercho di irga vorto en la Ido-Angla- ed Angla-Ido-lexiki da Dyer. Ol esas rapida e tre utila.
 
 Yen hike:
 
 http://amuzaido.alketo.info/votaro/ http://amuzaido.alketo.info/votaro/
 



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En la protokolo pri la Internaciona Ido-Konfero en Lauenburg, Germania (julio 1931) me lektis ke la famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich Peus naracis pri "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, pri diskursi per Ido en Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).
  
 Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en Portugal? Til nun me deskovris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en Portugal, til ke me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.
  
 Me anke ne bone intelektas quo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en', nek 'pri') Ido...



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Kar amiki

 

Per ica mesajo me anuncas mea retreto de Ido.  Me ne povas fu=
ncionar en Idia ube la duima idisti habitas Facebook.

 

Me anke desaproba=
s la traktado di sdo Tiberio.

 

Me divenos Ido-guruo en kaverno en fora l=
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Adio ad omni.

 

Kordiale

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Kar amiki

 

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uima idisti habitas Facebook.

 

Me anke desaprobas la traktado=
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> Copie =C3=A0 : 
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> Kar amiki,

> 

Yen bona novajo.

> 

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rupo che Facebook, jus kreis programo qua posibligas rapida sercho di irga =
vorto en la Ido-Angla- ed Angla-Ido-lexiki da Dyer. Ol esas rapida e tre ut=
ila.

> 

Yen hike:

> 

http://amuzaido.alketo.info/votaro/

> 


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> A : idolisto@yahoogro=
ups.com
> Copie à : 
> Objet : [idolisto] lexiki da =
Dyer kun serchilo
> 
>

>  Kar amiki,


>  


Yen bona novajo.


>=
;  <=
/p>

Rachel Morris, Ido-lernantino e komputorala programisto Usana, recente adh=
erinta al precipua Ido-grupo che Facebook, jus kreis programo qua posibliga=
s rapida sercho di irga vorto en la Ido-Angla- ed Angla-Ido-lexiki da Dyer.=
 Ol esas rapida e tre utila.


>  


Yen hike:


>  


http://amuzaido.alketo.info/votaro/

>  



 


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Kara James,

Yen certe regretinda anunco e, mem plu certe, surprizanta moti=
vizo.

Se me ne mismemoras, vu nun retretas ne unesmafoye. Do me esperas - =
e certe
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opulsis
- ke anke cafoye vua retreto ne esas definitiva.

Irge quale esas, =
vua tilnuna Ido-laboro, sendubite neobliviebla, meritas
admiro e respekto.
=

Til balde (me esperas).

GN
2013/11/13 James Chandler 
=

>
>
> Kar amiki
>
> Per ica mesajo me anuncas mea retreto de Ido.  Me ne p=
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> Idia ube la duima idisti habitas Facebook.
>
> Me anke =
desaprobas la traktado di sdo Tiberio.
>
> Me divenos Ido-guruo en kaverno =
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> Adio ad omni.
>
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=C2=A0
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=C2=A0Do me esperas - e certe anke la cetera membri di ca grupo, quan vu=C2=
=A0cetere fondis=C2=A0e longe propulsis - ke anke cafoye=C2=A0vua retreto n=
e esas definitiva.


=C2=A0
Irge quale esas,=C2=A0vua ti=
lnuna Ido-laboro,=C2=A0sendubite neobliviebla, meritas admiro e respekto.
=C2=A0
Til balde (me esperas).

GN
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itas Facebook.

=C2=A0

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Honorinda samideani:=A0

Yen kelka mulieri, qui uzas Ido. Me skribas nur se=
gun-memore. Ka plusa de li?

Heidi Neussner, Marion Kasper, Ingrid Suprayan=
, Dorothea (Germania),=A0
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Nancy Anderson (Us=
a),=A0
Siobhan Sheehan (Irlando),=A0
Pilar Gomez Movellan, Itziar Gonzalez =
(Hispania),=A0
Janna Reunova (Ukrainia).=A0
E la puerino Andrea (Hispania),=
 quan me volunte invitas vi askoltar kantar hike:=A0
http://www.ipernity.co=
m/doc/idosonora/3226943


Maxim kordial ed amikal saluto a vi omna!=A0


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Yen kelka mulieri, qui=
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Heidi Neussn=
er, Marion Kasper, Ingrid Suprayan, Dorothea (Germania), 
Kerstin A=
ckerlund (Suedia), 
Nancy Anderson (Usa), 
Siobhan Sheehan =
(Irlando), 
Pilar Gomez Movellan, Itziar Gonzalez (Hispania), =

Janna Reunova (Ukrainia). 
E la puerino Andrea (Hispania), quan=
 me volunte invitas vi askoltar kantar hike: 
http://www.ipernity.c=
om/doc/idosonora/3226943


Maxim kordial ed amikal saluto a vi omn=
a! 


P A R T A K A 
* * * * * * * * * * 
htt=
p://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - 
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>
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> Honorinda samideani:
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> Yen kelka mulieri, qui uzas Ido. Me=
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> li?
>
> Heidi Neussner, Marion Kas=
per, Ingrid Suprayan, Dorothea (Germania),
> Kerstin Ackerlund (Suedia),
> =
Nancy Anderson (Usa),
> Siobhan Sheehan (Irlando),
> Pilar Gomez Movellan, =
Itziar Gonzalez (Hispania),
> Janna Reunova (Ukrainia).
> E la puerino Andr=
ea (Hispania), quan me volunte invitas vi askoltar kantar
> hike:
> http://=
www.ipernity.com/doc/idosonora/3226943
>
>
> Maxim kordial ed amikal saluto=
 a vi omna!
>
>
> P A R T A K A
> * * * * * * * * * *
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Honorinda samideani:=9A

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 qui uzas Ido. Me skribas nur segun-memore. Ka plusa de li?


Heidi N=
eussner, Marion Kasper, Ingrid Suprayan, Dorothea (Germania),=9A
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Pilar Gomez Movellan, Itziar Gonzalez (Hispania),=9A
Janna =
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E la puerino Andrea (Hispania), quan me volunte =
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http://www.ipernity.com/doc/idosono=
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Maxim kordial ed amikal saluto a vi omna!=9A

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Amiko James:=A0

Kapitano di navo devas abandonar ol nur kom lasta ed ultim=
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s. Voluntez restar hike, e luktez por demonstrar, ke Idolisto duras meritar=
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Kar amiki

Per i=
ca mesajo me anuncas mea retreto de Ido.=A0 Me ne povas funcionar en Idia u=
be la duima idisti habitas Facebook.

Me anke desaprobas la traktado di sdo=
 Tiberio.

Me divenos Ido-guruo en kaverno en fora loko.

Adio ad omni.

Ko=
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JC


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Me anke trovis ke ol existas Neciklopedio en Ido anke ne havas ver artikli =
en la LI.

http://io.neciklopedio.org/wiki/Frontispico




El Martes 12 de =
noviembre de 2013 18:08, "anupriyo.mandal@yahoo.in"  escribi=C3=B3:
 
=C2=A0 
Sioro Hans,
Me esas nova Idisto, do me ne kono=
cas la historio inter Ido ed Esperanto. Me, me volas savar, pro quo esperna=
tisti ne prizas IDO e timas IDO? Pro quo espernatisti ne komprenas ke ed Id=
o ed Esperanto esas nun lingui?


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Me hazarde renkontris ca pagini:
=C2=A0
http://neci=
klopedio.wikia.com/wiki/Idisto
http://neciklopedio.wikia.com/wiki/Sadomaso%=
C4%A5ismo
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Saluti amikala,
=C2=A0
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam

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nke ne havas ver artikli en la LI.

http://io.neciklopedio.org/wiki/Frontispico
 
 
 
 
 
  El =
Martes 12 de
 noviembre de 2013 18:08, "anupriyo.mandal@yahoo.in"  escribi=C3=B3:
  
  

 




  



    

      
      
      
Sioro Hans,
Me esas nova Idisto, d=
o me ne konocas la historio inter Ido ed Esperanto. Me, me volas savar, pro=
 quo espernatisti ne prizas IDO e timas IDO? Pro quo espernatisti ne kompre=
nas ke ed Ido ed Esperanto esas nun lingui?
 


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ontris ca pagini:
 
 
 
Saluti amikala,
=
 
Hans Stuifbergen
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Hola, yunino! 
 

 Por ke tu ipsa povez konstatar e konciar la poka chanji o reformi, 
 qui facesis en Ido dum olua plu kam 100-yara vivo-tempo tilnuna, 
 voluntez lektar e juar la texto titulizita *La Tasko di nia Akademio*, 
 qua skribesis da Otto Jespersen en la yaro 1910: 
 (+ [...] e hastigos nia venko [vinko] ) 
 

 http://interlanguages.net/tasko.html 

 

 Me sendas a tu mea maxim kordial saluto. Ido vivez! 
 

 

 (Partaka) 
 

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Ye ca dio, 16 novembro...

1272. Henry 3ma rejo di Anglia mortis, evante 65=
 yari. Il esabis rejo depos 1216; ilua regno lore esis la maxim longa di ir=
ga Angla rejo. En la lasta yari il divenis febla ed ilua filiulo Edward, qu=
a sucedis Henry ye lua morto, agis kom guvernestro, dum ke Henry esis grand=
aparte okupata pri ri-konstruktado di la Abadeyo di Westminster. Il volis k=
e il esez enterigata ibe, e ke ca edifico remplasez la Abadeyo di Fontevrau=
d, en Anjou, Francia, kom kustumala enterigeyo di Angla reji.

1895. La kom=
pozisto Paul Hindemith naskis, en Frankfurt-am-Main, Germania. Dum yuneso i=
l studiis violino, ed en 1914 il divenis profesionala violinisto; en 1921 i=
l fondis kordeto-quarteto, pleanta la alto. Frue en lua kariero il kompozis=
 kelka verki qui ganis multa intereso pro lia moderneso; kelke plu tarde il=
 developis plu simpla stilo e kreis tre multa kompozuri por diversa mikra i=
nstrumentala grupi. Pos 1930 il kompozis grandaparte por orkestro. En 1935 =
il kompletigis opero "Mathis de Mahler", pri la piktisto Matthias Gruenewal=
d. De 1940 il rezidis en Usa. Ilua maxim famoza verko esas la Simfoniala Me=
tamorfosuro di Temi da Carl Maria von Weber, skribita en 1943.

1965. La ko=
smosondilo Venera 3 lansesis de Baikonur. La Venera-projeto di USSR, por ex=
plorar la planeto Venuso, komencis en 1961; Venera 3 esis la unesma de la s=
erio qua sucesoze eskapis de Terala orbito. La sondilo kontenis instrumenti=
 por registragar la preso, temperaturo e kompozeso di la Venusala atmosfero=
; la intenco esis ke ol transmisus ca informeso pos dolca terveno, per para=
falo, sur la planeto. Tamen la sondilo cesis funcionar ye 16 februaro 1966,=
 ed ol kolizionis kun Venuso ye 1 marto sen transmisar informeso. Ol esis l=
a unesma objekto de Tero qua atingis altra planeto.

La atachita imajo esas=
 fotografuro di Paul Hindemith en Usa en 1945.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 16 nove=
mbro...

1272. Henry 3ma rejo di Anglia mort=
is, evante 65 yari. Il esabis rejo depos 1216; ilua regno lore esis la maxi=
m longa di irga Angla rejo. En la lasta yari il divenis febla ed ilua filiu=
lo Edward, qua sucedis Henry
 ye lua morto, agis kom guvernestro, dum ke He=
nry esis grandaparte okupata pri ri-konstruktado di la Abadeyo di Westminst=
er. Il volis ke il esez enterigata ibe, e ke ca edifico remplasez la Abadey=
o di Fontevraud, en Anjou, Francia, kom kustumala enterigeyo di Angla reji.=


1895. La
 k=
ompozisto Paul Hindemith naskis, en Frankfurt-am-Main, Germania. Dum yuneso=
 il studiis violino,
 ed en 1914 il divenis profesionala violinisto; en 192=
1 il fondis kordeto-quarteto, pleanta la alto. Frue en lua kariero il kompo=
zis kelka verki qui ganis multa intereso pro lia moderneso; kelke plu tarde=
 il developis plu simpla stilo e kreis tre multa kompozuri por diversa mikr=
a instrumentala grupi. Pos 1930 il kompozis grandaparte por orkestro. En 19=
35 il kompletigis opero "Mathis de Mahler", pri la piktisto Matthias Gruene=
wald. De 1940 il rezidis en Usa. Ilua maxim famoza verko esas la Simfoniala=
 Metamorfosuro di Temi da Carl Maria von Weber, skribita en 1943.

1965. La kosmosondilo=
 Venera 3 lansesis de Baikonur. La Venera-projeto di USSR, por explorar la =
planeto Venuso, komencis en 1961; Venera 3 esis la unesma de la serio qua s=
ucesoze eskapis de Terala
 orbito. La sondilo kontenis instrumenti por regi=
stragar la preso, temperaturo e kompozeso di la Venusala atmosfero; la inte=
nco esis ke ol transmisus ca informeso pos dolca terveno, per parafalo, sur=
 la planeto. Tamen la sondilo cesis funcionar ye 16 februaro 1966, ed ol ko=
lizionis kun Venuso ye 1 marto sen transmisar informeso. Ol esis la unesma =
objekto de Tero qua atingis altra planeto.

La atachita imajo esas fotografuro di Paul H=
indemith en Usa en 1945.

Kordiale DGW



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Kara Goncalo:=C2=A0


Meajudike, diskurso per Ido povas signifikar nulo alt=
ra=C2=A0
kam diskurso en Ido; on diskursis en/per la linguo Ido. =C2=A0

Pr=
i la posibla existo di olima Idisti en tua lando, Portugal,=C2=A0
forsan op=
ortus, ke tu povez konsultar la olima revuo *Ad-avane*,=C2=A0
qua publikige=
sis dal Hispana Ido-Societo dum la 20a e 30a yari
(kelka numeri interne dil=
 jurnalo *Acci=C3=B3n Cultural*). Ibe aludesas
la posibla kreo dil *Federac=
i=C3=B3n Idista Ib=C3=A9rica* por probar rajuntar=C2=A0
Idisti di Hispania =
e Portugal. Do, segun semblo, olim existis Idisti=C2=A0
en Portugal, admini=
me dum la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua texto.=C2=A0

Standez bone, amik=
o!=C2=A0


(Generalo Ido von Partaka)=C2=A0

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/=
posta_Mundi -=C2=A0
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -



El =
Mi=C3=A9rcoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@gmail.com"  escribi=C3=B3:


En la protokolo pri la Internaciona Ido-Konfe=
ro en Lauenburg, Germania (julio 1931) me lektis ke la famoza Ido-pioniro H=
einrich Peus naracis pri "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, p=
ri diskursi per Ido en Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).
=

Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en Portugal? Ti=
l nun me deskovris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en Portugal, til ke m=
e rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.

Me anke ne bone intelektas quo povus =
esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en', nek 'pri') Ido...
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=
 


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Kara Par-taka,

Danko pro tua informo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en=
 mea lando. Me
joyas. Tamen la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsult=
ebla en mea
ermiteyo...

Kordiale,

Gon=C3=A7alo


2013/11/16 Partaka 

>
>
> Kara Goncalo:
>
> Meajudike, diskurso per Ido p=
ovas signifikar nulo altra
> kam diskurso en Ido; on diskursis en/per la li=
nguo Ido.
>
> Pri la posibla existo di olima Idisti en tua lando, Portugal,=

> forsan oportus, ke tu povez konsultar la olima revuo *Ad-avane*,
> qua p=
ublikigesis dal Hispana Ido-Societo dum la 20a e 30a yari
> (kelka numeri i=
nterne dil jurnalo *Acci=C3=B3n Cultural*). Ibe aludesas
> la posibla kreo =
dil *Federaci=C3=B3n Idista Ib=C3=A9rica* por probar rajuntar
> Idisti di H=
ispania e Portugal. Do, segun semblo, olim existis Idisti
> en Portugal, ad=
minime dum la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua texto.
>
> Standez bone, ami=
ko!
>
> (Generalo Ido von Partaka)
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_=
Mundi -
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
>
> El Mi=C3=A9r=
coles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@gmail.com" <
> gneves64@gmai=
l.com> escribi=C3=B3:
>
> En la protokolo pri la Internaciona Ido-Konfero e=
n Lauenburg, Germania
> (julio 1931) me lektis ke la famoza Ido-pioniro Hei=
nrich Peus naracis pri
> "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, p=
ri diskursi per Ido en
> Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68)=
.
>
> Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en Portuga=
l?
> Til nun me deskovris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en Portugal, t=
il ke
> me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.
>
> Me anke ne bone intelekta=
s quo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en', nek
> 'pri') Ido...
>
>  
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ua informo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en mea lando. Me joyas. Tamen=
 la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsultebla en mea ermiteyo...

=C2=A0
Kordiale,
=C2=A0
Gon=C3=A7alo<=
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2013/11/=
16 Partaka <qualevistandas@yahoo.es>


















=C2=A0




  



    
      
      
      
Kara Goncalo:=C2=A0



Meajudike, diskurso=
 per Ido povas signifikar nulo altra=C2=A0

kam diskurso en Ido; on disk=
ursis en/per la linguo Ido. =C2=A0



Pri la posibla existo di olima =
Idisti en tua lando, Portugal,=C2=A0

forsan oportus, ke tu povez konsul=
tar la olima revuo *Ad-avane*,=C2=A0

qua publikigesis dal Hispana Ido-S=
ocieto dum la 20a e 30a yari

(kelka numeri interne dil jurnalo *Acci=C3=
=B3n Cultural*). Ibe aludesas

la posibla kreo dil *Federaci=C3=B3n Idis=
ta Ib=C3=A9rica* por probar rajuntar=C2=A0

Idisti di Hispania e Portuga=
l. Do, segun semblo, olim existis Idisti=C2=A0

en Portugal, adminime du=
m la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua texto.=C2=A0



Standez bone, a=
miko!=C2=A0



(Generalo Ido von Partaka)=C2=A0



http://groups.y=
ahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -=C2=A0

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/=
IdoCatalaOccitan -



El Mi=C3=A9rcoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 1=
2:19, "gneves6=
4@gmail.com" <gneves64@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3:




En la protokolo =
pri la Internaciona Ido-Konfero en Lauenburg, Germania (julio 1931) me lekt=
is ke la famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich Peus naracis pri "travivaji kun C=
outurat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, pri diskursi per Ido en Francia e Portugal=
" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).




Ka nia Germana samideani s=
avas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en Portugal? Til nun me deskovris nula tra=
co pri la existo di idisti en Portugal, til ke me rezolvis lernar la linguo=
 en 1997.



Me anke ne bone intelektas quo povus esar diskurso _per_=
 (nek 'en', nek 'pri') Ido...

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=
=A0 




    

     

    
    








  










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Kar amiki,



La =E2=80=98Patro nia=E2=80=99 esas forsan la maxim konocata =
prego en la mondo. Preske omna
auxiliara lingueto o mem nura projeteto plu =
o min exotika havas sua
versiono di =E2=80=98Patro nia=E2=80=99. Evidente a=
nke Ido havas =E2=80=9Csua=E2=80=9D versiono. Che
Wikipedio (http://io.wiki=
pedia.org/wiki/Patro_nia) on povas lektar yena
versiono:



Patro nia, qua =
esas en la cielo,

Tua nomo santigesez;

Tua regno advenez;

Tua volo faces=
ez,

Quale en la cielo, tale anke sur la tero.

Donez a ni cadie l=E2=80=99=
omnadia pano,

E pardonez a ni nia ofensi,

Quale anke ni pardonas a nia of=
ensanti,

E ne duktez ni al tento,

Ma liberigez ni del malajo.



Tamen la=
 Wikipediala artiklo ne indikas la fonto di ca versiono. Mea
tilnuna explor=
ado restis senfrukta. Anke me ne savas lo. Tamen me recente
deskovris tre f=
rua versiono tre simila ad ica, en yena verko:



Pregi e konfeso per la li=
nguo internaciona Ido. Tradukita da L. de
Beaufront. Fontainebleau: Alfred =
Pouy=C3=A9 1912. 63 p.



Yen la mencionita versiono, lektebla sur p. 11:

=


Nia Patro, qua esas en la cielo,

Vua nomo santigesez;

Vua regno advenez=
;

Vua volo facesez,

Quale en la cielo, tale sur la tero.

Donez a ni cadi=
e l=E2=80=99omnadia pano,

Ed a ni pardonez nia ofensi,

Quale anke ni pard=
onas a nia ofensanti,

E ne duktez ni ad-en la tento,

Ma liberigez ni de l=
=E2=80=99 malajo.



Existas tre poka diferi inter la du versioni, ma un de=
 li esas =E2=80=93 o povas
esar =E2=80=93 teologiale importanta...



La Wi=
kipediala versiono dicas =E2=80=9CE ne duktez ni AL tento=E2=80=9D, kontre =
ke la
versiono da L. de Beaufront (LdB) dicas =E2=80=9CE ne duktez ni AD-EN=
 la tento=E2=80=9D.
Duktar al tento ne esas lo sama kam duktar aden la tent=
o. Parolesas pri
nuanco, ma teologiale ica nuanco ne esas neglijinda... La =
Latina versiono
(same kam la Esperantala, direte tradukita da Zamenhof de l=
a Hebrea)
montras ke la versiono =E2=80=98aden la tento=E2=80=99 esas klare=
 preferinda. Oportus do
korektigar la Wikipediala versiono e referar per in=
fra noto al verko
tradukita da LdB.



Nu, preske samtempe me deskovris plu=
sa versiono, anke del traduk-plumo da
LdB, en yena verko:



Katekismo por =
l=E2=80=99infanti qui preparas su al unesma Komunio ed al Konfirmo.
Extrakt=
ita ek la katekismo dil doktrino Kristana. Fontainebleau: Imprimerio
Pouy=
=C3=A9 1914. 32 + 11 p.



Sur p. 4 di ca verko on povas lektar yena versio=
no, apene konocata, ma
certe konocinda, nam plu bela (segun mea judiko) kam=
 l=E2=80=99altra versiono
supere mencionita:



Patro nia qua esas en la ci=
elo,

Vua nomo esez santigata;

Vua regno arivez;

Vua volo esez obediata,
=

Quale en la cielo, tale sur la tero.

Nia singladi=E2=80=99 panon donez a =
ni cadie,

E remisez a ni nia debaji,

Quale anke ni remisas a nia debanti,=


E ne duktez ni aden la tenteso,

Ma liberigez ni del malajo.



La prelas=
ta verso esas mem plu preciza kam en l=E2=80=99antea versiono da LdB: =E2=
=80=9Cne
duktez ni aden la tenteso (ne tento!)=E2=80=9D. Pluse, =E2=80=9CVu=
a regno arivez=E2=80=9D esas
teologiale plu forta kam =E2=80=9CVua regno ad=
venez=E2=80=9D. Adveno ne sempre abutas ad
arivo, e la Kristani certe dezir=
as ke la ciel-regno ne nur advenez, ma
fakte arivez... Fine, =E2=80=98singl=
adia pano=E2=80=99 esas anke plu preciza kam =E2=80=98omnadia
pano=E2=80=99=
.



Pro omno supere mencionita, me pregas nia Wikipediala experti adjuntar=
 ica
duesma versiono al indikita pagino, prefere kun font-indiko.



Kordia=
le,


Gon=C3=A7alo

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Kar amiki,



=C2=A0


<=
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La =E2=80=98Patro nia=E2=80=99
esas forsan la maxim ko=
nocata prego en la mondo. Preske=C2=A0omna auxiliara lingueto
o mem nura pr=
ojeteto plu o min exotika havas sua versiono di =E2=80=98Patro nia=E2=80=99=
.
Evidente anke Ido havas =E2=80=9Csua=E2=80=9D versiono. Che Wikipedio (http://io.wikipedia.org/wi=
ki/Patro_nia)
on povas lektar yena versiono:


<=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;text-align:justify">=C2=A0



Patro nia, qua
esas en la cielo,



<=
font face=3D"Times New Roman">Tua nomo
santigesez;



Tua regno
advenez;



Tu=
a volo
facesez,



=
Quale en la
cielo, t=
ale anke sur la tero.



Donez a ni ca=
die
l=E2=80=99omnadia pano,



E pardon=
ez a ni
nia ofensi,



Quale anke ni=

pardonas a nia ofensanti,



E ne dukt=
ez ni
al tento,



=
Ma liberigez ni
del =
malajo.



=C2=A0



Tamen la=

Wikipediala artiklo ne indikas la fonto di ca versiono. Mea tilnuna explor=
ado restis
senfrukta. Anke me ne savas lo. Tamen me recente deskovris tre f=
rua versiono tre
simila ad ica, en yena verko:<=
/p>


=
=C2=A0



Pregi e konfeso
per la linguo internaciona =
Ido. Tradukita da L. de Beaufront. Fontainebleau:
Alfred Pouy=C3=A9 1912. 6=
3 p.



=C2=A0



Yen la menc=
ionita
versiono, lektebla sur p. 11:



=C2=A0


=

Nia Patro, qua
esas en la cielo,<=
/span>



=
Vua nomo
santigesez;



Vua regno
advenez;



Vua volo
face=
sez,



Quale en la
cielo, tale sur la =
tero.



Donez a ni cadie
l=E2=80=99omn=
adia pano,



Ed a ni pardonez
nia ofen=
si,



Quale anke ni
pardonas a nia of=
ensanti,



E ne duktez ni ad-en
la ten=
to,



Ma liberigez ni
de l=E2=80=99 m=
alajo.



=C2=A0



Existas t=
re poka
diferi inter la du versioni, ma un de li esas =E2=80=93 o povas esa=
r =E2=80=93 teologiale importanta...



=C2=A0


=

La Wikipediala
versiono dicas =E2=80=9CE ne duktez ni=
=C2=A0AL tento=E2=80=9D, kontre ke la versiono da L. de Beaufront
(LdB) dic=
as =E2=80=9CE ne duktez ni=C2=A0AD-EN la tento=E2=80=9D. Duktar al tento ne=
 esas lo sama
kam duktar aden la tento. Parolesas pri nuanco, ma teologiale=
 ica nuanco ne
esas neglijinda... La Latina versiono (same kam la Esperanta=
la, direte tradukita
da Zamenhof de la Hebrea) montras ke la versiono =E2=
=80=98aden la tento=E2=80=99 esas klare preferinda.
Oportus do korektigar l=
a Wikipediala versiono e referar per infra noto al verko
tradukita da LdB.<=
/font>



=C2=A0



Nu, preske
sa=
mtempe me deskovris plusa versiono, anke del traduk-plumo da LdB, en yena
v=
erko:



=C2=A0



Katekismo =
por l=E2=80=99infanti
qui preparas su al unesma Komunio ed al Konfirmo. Ext=
raktita ek la katekismo
dil doktrino Kristana. Fontainebleau: Imprimerio Po=
uy=C3=A9 1914. 32 + 11 p.



=C2=A0


Sur p. 4 di ca
verko on povas lektar yena versiono, apene konocat=
a, ma certe konocinda, nam plu
bela (segun mea judiko) kam l=E2=80=99altra =
versiono supere mencionita:



=C2=A0=



Patro nia qua
esas en la cielo,
=



Vua nomo esez santigata;



=
Vua=
 regno arivez;



=
Vua volo esez
obedia=
ta,



Quale en la
cielo, tale sur la =
tero.



Nia singladi=E2=80=99
panon do=
nez a ni cadie,



=
E remisez a ni nia
d=
ebaji,



Quale anke ni remisas
a nia d=
ebanti,



E ne duktez ni aden
la tente=
so,



Ma liberigez ni
del malajo.



=C2=A0



La prelasta
verso e=
sas mem plu preciza kam en l=E2=80=99antea versiono da LdB: =E2=80=9Cne duk=
tez ni aden
la tenteso (ne tento!)=E2=80=9D. Pluse, =E2=80=9CVua regno ariv=
ez=E2=80=9D esas teologiale plu forta
kam =E2=80=9CVua regno advenez=E2=80=
=9D. Adveno ne sempre abutas ad arivo, e la Kristani certe deziras
ke la ci=
el-regno ne nur advenez, ma fakte arivez... Fine, =E2=80=98singladia pano=
=E2=80=99 esas
anke plu preciza kam =E2=80=98omnadia pano=E2=80=99.<=
/font>



=C2=A0



Pro omno supere
mencion=
ita, me pregas nia Wikipediala experti adjuntar ica duesma versiono al
indi=
kita pagino, prefere kun font-indiko.



=C2=A0

=


Kordiale,



=
=C2=A0


Gon=C3=A7alo


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Kar amiki,
  
 Me supozas ke on ne ja anuncis hike la recenta aparo dil duesma numero di 'La plumo Idala', jurnalo ecelante redaktata e sezonale editata da Tiberio Madonna:
  
 http://ido-poezio.blogspot.it/2013/09/la-plumo-idala-numero-2.HTML http://ido-poezio.blogspot.it/2013/09/la-plumo-idala-numero-2.html
  
 Tre rekomendinda lektajo! 
  
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Hola, Goncalo! Se me juste memoras, enretigesis adminime tri PDF-dokumenti =
riproduktanta tri diferanta numeri dil olima revuo *Ad-avane*, ma me sucesi=
s trovar nur un ek oli (yaro 1932). Yen la ligilo: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
http://kanaria1973.ido.li/ido=
librerio/adavane051932.pdf=C2=A0
Forsan, l'amiko Adrian Pastrana, qua posed=
is ta jurnali, povus dicar ulo plusa.=C2=A0
Altra-latere, segun semblo. exi=
stis Portugalan Idisti ne nur dum la 30a yari, ma anke dum l'unesma Ido-yar=
i, nam se ne, on ne povabus diskursar per Ido en Portugal, adminime kun Cou=
turat, qua mortabis en 1914.=C2=A0
Maxim probable, se tu revizos atencoze a=
nciena numeri di PROGRESO, quin tu certe posedas, tu deskovros Portugalan I=
disti lora. Bona fortuno! =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0
(Partaka)
http://groups.yahoo=
.com/group/posta_Mundi -=C2=A0
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El Domingo 17 de noviembre de 2013 1:05, Gon=C3=A7alo Neves  escribi=C3=B3:


Kara Par-taka,

Danko pro tua informo. Sembl=
as do ke me havas prekursori en mea lando. Me joyas. Tamen la olima revuo q=
uan tu mencionas esas nekonsultebla en mea ermiteyo...

Kordiale,

Gon=C3=
=A7alo



2013/11/16 Partaka 


>=C2=A0 
>Kara Gon=
calo:=C2=A0
>
>Meajudike, diskurso per Ido povas signifikar nulo altra=C2=
=A0
>kam diskurso en Ido; on diskursis en/per la linguo Ido. =C2=A0
>
>Pri =
la posibla existo di olima Idisti en tua lando, Portugal,=C2=A0
>forsan opo=
rtus, ke tu povez konsultar la olima revuo *Ad-avane*,=C2=A0
>qua publikige=
sis dal Hispana Ido-Societo dum la 20a e 30a yari
>(kelka numeri interne di=
l jurnalo *Acci=C3=B3n Cultural*). Ibe aludesas
>la posibla kreo dil *Feder=
aci=C3=B3n Idista Ib=C3=A9rica* por probar rajuntar=C2=A0
>Idisti di Hispan=
ia e Portugal. Do, segun semblo, olim existis Idisti=C2=A0
>en Portugal, ad=
minime dum la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua texto.=C2=A0
>
>Standez bone=
, amiko!=C2=A0
>
>(Generalo Ido von Partaka)=C2=A0
>
>http://groups.yahoo.c=
om/group/posta_Mundi -=C2=A0
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccita=
n -
>
>El Mi=C3=A9rcoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@gmail.com=
"  escribi=C3=B3:
>
>En la protokolo pri la Internacion=
a Ido-Konfero en Lauenburg, Germania (julio 1931) me lektis ke la famoza Id=
o-pioniro Heinrich Peus naracis pri "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront e=
d Oswald, pri diskursi per Ido en Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro =
5, p. 68).
>
>Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en=
 Portugal? Til nun me deskovris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en Portu=
gal, til ke me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.
>
>Me anke ne bone intele=
ktas quo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en', nek 'pri') Ido...
>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 
>

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (3)
 

 

 

 

 Ube? En vilajo proxim l'urbo Valencia (Valencia-lando), quan me habitis dum mea tota puereso e til mea fresh adulteso, kande me sucesis divenar ne-dependanta por instalar me sole, unesme, che l'urbo Valencia, e plu tarde  che l'urbo Barcelona (Katalunia). Tamen, pro motivi familial e sentimental, me restis sempre interligata kun la  mencionita vilajo, quan me kustumas durar vizitar tempope.   
 

 Kande? Yen ke to, quon me raportos de pos nun, eventis, precize, dum un ek mea viziti e sejorni plur-dia en ta vilajo, kande l' 20ma yarcento esis balde departonta. 
 

 Quale? Ha, quale! Yen do. Ta-die, me esis tranquile promenanta exter la vilajo ipsa, kande, tote ne-expektite, me komencis pensar ankor-foye pri mea fola deziro, ma, ca-foye, kun energio ed entuziasmo senmezura, qua semblis ne aceptar ekirar mea cerebro, quaze on esis esforcanta komunikar a me, ke me mustas obliviar por sempre mea revo e ne plus pripensar ol, ecepte se me esos advere kapabla realigar ol ul-maniere. E to omna, maxim evidente, por mea propra saneso mental. To esis do klara invito por ke me abandonez mea tote ne-realigebla absurdajo, ka ne? Quale me povus voyajar en la tempo? Per qual mashino? Ho, me ya bezonus adminime sorto di miraklo simil ad olti, qui raportesis pri Jesu ipsa, ka ne? He! Ka me dicis "mashino"? Ka me dicis MASHINO? Subite, enorma ideo atingabis me... Ka ne veresas, ke ni posedas maxim povoza mashino, *kuya kapableson, segun semblo, ni profitas apen 10 procente od admaxime 20 procente? Ho, yes, la cerebro! Yen: la cerebro. Ka me sucesus retroirar en la tempo per mea cerebro? Ka me vehus percerebre til atingar mea skopo? Pro quo ne?! Ka me ne asertis kredar, ke omno posiblesas? Ka me ne parkonvinkesas prie? Se yes, oportos nur decidar de ube exakte, kande e quale, me vizos departar.   
 

 

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.  .  .  .  . direte tradukita da Zamenhof de la Hebrea.   Segun mea 
savo tu ne esas justa:   ca prego ne existas en la Hebrea, ma  fondesis 
fa Kristo su altra prego Hebrea.   Pluse la linguo parolata fa Kristo 
esis Aramaic, ma la prego anke ne existas en ca linguo, nam la originala 
dokumenti perdesis.  La maxim anciena formo esas en la Greka.


On 17/11/2013 01:19, Gonçalo Neves wrote:
> Kar amiki,
>
>
>
> La ‘Patro nia’ esas forsan la maxim konocata prego en la mondo. Preske omna
> auxiliara lingueto o mem nura projeteto plu o min exotika havas sua
> versiono di ‘Patro nia’. Evidente anke Ido havas “sua” versiono. Che
> Wikipedio (http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patro_nia) on povas lektar yena
> versiono:
>
>
>
> Patro nia, qua esas en la cielo,
>
> Tua nomo santigesez;
>
> Tua regno advenez;
>
> Tua volo facesez,
>
> Quale en la cielo, tale anke sur la tero.
>
> Donez a ni cadie l’omnadia pano,
>
> E pardonez a ni nia ofensi,
>
> Quale anke ni pardonas a nia ofensanti,
>
> E ne duktez ni al tento,
>
> Ma liberigez ni del malajo.
>
>
>
> Tamen la Wikipediala artiklo ne indikas la fonto di ca versiono. Mea
> tilnuna explorado restis senfrukta. Anke me ne savas lo. Tamen me recente
> deskovris tre frua versiono tre simila ad ica, en yena verko:
>
>
>
> Pregi e konfeso per la linguo internaciona Ido. Tradukita da L. de
> Beaufront. Fontainebleau: Alfred Pouyé 1912. 63 p.
>
>
>
> Yen la mencionita versiono, lektebla sur p. 11:
>
>
>
> Nia Patro, qua esas en la cielo,
>
> Vua nomo santigesez;
>
> Vua regno advenez;
>
> Vua volo facesez,
>
> Quale en la cielo, tale sur la tero.
>
> Donez a ni cadie l’omnadia pano,
>
> Ed a ni pardonez nia ofensi,
>
> Quale anke ni pardonas a nia ofensanti,
>
> E ne duktez ni ad-en la tento,
>
> Ma liberigez ni de l’ malajo.
>
>
>
> Existas tre poka diferi inter la du versioni, ma un de li esas – o povas
> esar – teologiale importanta...
>
>
>
> La Wikipediala versiono dicas “E ne duktez ni AL tento”, kontre ke la
> versiono da L. de Beaufront (LdB) dicas “E ne duktez ni AD-EN la tento”.
> Duktar al tento ne esas lo sama kam duktar aden la tento. Parolesas pri
> nuanco, ma teologiale ica nuanco ne esas neglijinda... La Latina versiono
> (same kam la Esperantala, direte tradukita da Zamenhof de la Hebrea)
> montras ke la versiono ‘aden la tento’ esas klare preferinda. Oportus do
> korektigar la Wikipediala versiono e referar per infra noto al verko
> tradukita da LdB.
>
>
>
> Nu, preske samtempe me deskovris plusa versiono, anke del traduk-plumo da
> LdB, en yena verko:
>
>
>
> Katekismo por l’infanti qui preparas su al unesma Komunio ed al Konfirmo.
> Extraktita ek la katekismo dil doktrino Kristana. Fontainebleau: Imprimerio
> Pouyé 1914. 32 + 11 p.
>
>
>
> Sur p. 4 di ca verko on povas lektar yena versiono, apene konocata, ma
> certe konocinda, nam plu bela (segun mea judiko) kam l’altra versiono
> supere mencionita:
>
>
>
> Patro nia qua esas en la cielo,
>
> Vua nomo esez santigata;
>
> Vua regno arivez;
>
> Vua volo esez obediata,
>
> Quale en la cielo, tale sur la tero.
>
> Nia singladi’ panon donez a ni cadie,
>
> E remisez a ni nia debaji,
>
> Quale anke ni remisas a nia debanti,
>
> E ne duktez ni aden la tenteso,
>
> Ma liberigez ni del malajo.
>
>
>
> La prelasta verso esas mem plu preciza kam en l’antea versiono da LdB: “ne
> duktez ni aden la tenteso (ne tento!)”. Pluse, “Vua regno arivez” esas
> teologiale plu forta kam “Vua regno advenez”. Adveno ne sempre abutas ad
> arivo, e la Kristani certe deziras ke la ciel-regno ne nur advenez, ma
> fakte arivez... Fine, ‘singladia pano’ esas anke plu preciza kam ‘omnadia
> pano’.
>
>
>
> Pro omno supere mencionita, me pregas nia Wikipediala experti adjuntar ica
> duesma versiono al indikita pagino, prefere kun font-indiko.
>
>
>
> Kordiale,
>
>
> Gonçalo
>



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unia). Tamen, pro motivi familial e sentimental, me restis sempre interliga=
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a deziro, ma, ca-foye, kun energio ed entuziasmo senmezura, qua semblis ne =
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mustas obliviar por sempre mea revo e ne plus pripensar ol, ecepte se me es=
os advere kapabla realigar ol ul-maniere. E to omna, maxim evidente, por me=
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Yes, Ralph, tu esas justa, me eroris: Zamenhof NE tradukis la 'Patro nia'
a=
d Esperanto, nam lu tradukis nur la Olda Testamento, ma ne la Nova.


2013/=
11/17 Ralph Midgley 

>
>
> . . . . . direte traduki=
ta da Zamenhof de la Hebrea. Segun mea
> savo tu ne esas justa: ca prego ne=
 existas en la Hebrea, ma fondesis
> fa Kristo su altra prego Hebrea. Pluse=
 la linguo parolata fa Kristo
> esis Aramaic, ma la prego anke ne existas e=
n ca linguo, nam la originala
> dokumenti perdesis. La maxim anciena formo =
esas en la Greka.
>
>
> On 17/11/2013 01:19, Gon=C3=A7alo Neves wrote:
> > =
Kar amiki,
> >
> >
> >
> > La =E2=80=98Patro nia=E2=80=99 esas forsan la ma=
xim konocata prego en la mondo. Preske
> omna
> > auxiliara lingueto o mem =
nura projeteto plu o min exotika havas sua
> > versiono di =E2=80=98Patro n=
ia=E2=80=99. Evidente anke Ido havas =E2=80=9Csua=E2=80=9D versiono. Che
> =
> Wikipedio (http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patro_nia) on povas lektar yena
>=
 > versiono:
> >
> >
> >
> > Patro nia, qua esas en la cielo,
> >
> > Tua n=
omo santigesez;
> >
> > Tua regno advenez;
> >
> > Tua volo facesez,
> >
> =
> Quale en la cielo, tale anke sur la tero.
> >
> > Donez a ni cadie l=E2=
=80=99omnadia pano,
> >
> > E pardonez a ni nia ofensi,
> >
> > Quale anke =
ni pardonas a nia ofensanti,
> >
> > E ne duktez ni al tento,
> >
> > Ma li=
berigez ni del malajo.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tamen la Wikipediala artiklo ne indi=
kas la fonto di ca versiono. Mea
> > tilnuna explorado restis senfrukta. An=
ke me ne savas lo. Tamen me recente
> > deskovris tre frua versiono tre sim=
ila ad ica, en yena verko:
> >
> >
> >
> > Pregi e konfeso per la linguo in=
ternaciona Ido. Tradukita da L. de
> > Beaufront. Fontainebleau: Alfred Pou=
y=C3=A9 1912. 63 p.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yen la mencionita versiono, lektebla su=
r p. 11:
> >
> >
> >
> > Nia Patro, qua esas en la cielo,
> >
> > Vua nomo =
santigesez;
> >
> > Vua regno advenez;
> >
> > Vua volo facesez,
> >
> > Qu=
ale en la cielo, tale sur la tero.
> >
> > Donez a ni cadie l=E2=80=99omnad=
ia pano,
> >
> > Ed a ni pardonez nia ofensi,
> >
> > Quale anke ni pardona=
s a nia ofensanti,
> >
> > E ne duktez ni ad-en la tento,
> >
> > Ma liberi=
gez ni de l=E2=80=99 malajo.
> >
> >
> >
> > Existas tre poka diferi inter =
la du versioni, ma un de li esas =E2=80=93 o povas
> > esar =E2=80=93 teolo=
giale importanta...
> >
> >
> >
> > La Wikipediala versiono dicas =E2=80=9C=
E ne duktez ni AL tento=E2=80=9D, kontre ke la
> > versiono da L. de Beaufr=
ont (LdB) dicas =E2=80=9CE ne duktez ni AD-EN la tento=E2=80=9D.
> > Duktar=
 al tento ne esas lo sama kam duktar aden la tento. Parolesas pri
> > nuanc=
o, ma teologiale ica nuanco ne esas neglijinda... La Latina versiono
> > (s=
ame kam la Esperantala, direte tradukita da Zamenhof de la Hebrea)
> > mont=
ras ke la versiono =E2=80=98aden la tento=E2=80=99 esas klare preferinda. O=
portus do
> > korektigar la Wikipediala versiono e referar per infra noto a=
l verko
> > tradukita da LdB.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nu, preske samtempe me deskov=
ris plusa versiono, anke del traduk-plumo da
> > LdB, en yena verko:
> >
> =
>
> >
> > Katekismo por l=E2=80=99infanti qui preparas su al unesma Komunio=
 ed al Konfirmo.
> > Extraktita ek la katekismo dil doktrino Kristana. Font=
ainebleau:
> Imprimerio
> > Pouy=C3=A9 1914. 32 + 11 p.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sur=
 p. 4 di ca verko on povas lektar yena versiono, apene konocata, ma
> > cer=
te konocinda, nam plu bela (segun mea judiko) kam l=E2=80=99altra versiono
=
> > supere mencionita:
> >
> >
> >
> > Patro nia qua esas en la cielo,
> >
=
> > Vua nomo esez santigata;
> >
> > Vua regno arivez;
> >
> > Vua volo ese=
z obediata,
> >
> > Quale en la cielo, tale sur la tero.
> >
> > Nia singla=
di=E2=80=99 panon donez a ni cadie,
> >
> > E remisez a ni nia debaji,
> >
=
> > Quale anke ni remisas a nia debanti,
> >
> > E ne duktez ni aden la ten=
teso,
> >
> > Ma liberigez ni del malajo.
> >
> >
> >
> > La prelasta verso=
 esas mem plu preciza kam en l=E2=80=99antea versiono da LdB:
> =E2=80=9Cne=

> > duktez ni aden la tenteso (ne tento!)=E2=80=9D. Pluse, =E2=80=9CVua re=
gno arivez=E2=80=9D esas
> > teologiale plu forta kam =E2=80=9CVua regno ad=
venez=E2=80=9D. Adveno ne sempre abutas ad
> > arivo, e la Kristani certe d=
eziras ke la ciel-regno ne nur advenez, ma
> > fakte arivez... Fine, =E2=80=
=98singladia pano=E2=80=99 esas anke plu preciza kam =E2=80=98omnadia
> > p=
ano=E2=80=99.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pro omno supere mencionita, me pregas nia Wik=
ipediala experti adjuntar
> ica
> > duesma versiono al indikita pagino, pre=
fere kun font-indiko.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kordiale,
> >
> >
> > Gon=C3=A7alo
> =
>
>
>  
>

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amento, ma ne la Nova.



2013/11/17 Ralph Midgley <midgleyr@talktalk.net&=
gt;

















=C2=A0




  



    

      
      
      
.  .  =
.  .  . direte tradukita da Zamenhof de la Hebrea.   Segun mea 

savo tu=
 ne esas justa:   ca prego ne existas en la Hebrea, ma  fondesis 

fa Kr=
isto su altra prego Hebrea.   Pluse la linguo parolata fa Kristo 

esis =
Aramaic, ma la prego anke ne existas en ca linguo, nam la originala 

do=
kumenti perdesis.  La maxim anciena formo esas en la Greka.




On 17/11/2013 01:19, Gon=C3=A7alo Neves wrote:

> K=
ar amiki,

>

>

>

> La =E2=80=98Patro nia=E2=80=
=99 esas forsan la maxim konocata prego en la mondo. Preske omna

> a=
uxiliara lingueto o mem nura projeteto plu o min exotika havas sua

>=
 versiono di =E2=80=98Patro nia=E2=80=99. Evidente anke Ido havas =E2=80=9C=
sua=E2=80=9D versiono. Che

> Wikipedio (http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patro=
_nia) on povas lektar yena

> versiono:

>

>

>=
;

> Patro nia, qua esas en la cielo,

>

> Tua nomo sant=
igesez;

>

> Tua regno advenez;

>

> Tua volo fac=
esez,

>

> Quale en la cielo, tale anke sur la tero.

><=
br>
> Donez a ni cadie l=E2=80=99omnadia pano,

>

> E pardo=
nez a ni nia ofensi,

>

> Quale anke ni pardonas a nia ofensan=
ti,

>

> E ne duktez ni al tento,

>

> Ma liberig=
ez ni del malajo.

>

>

>

> Tamen la Wikipediala =
artiklo ne indikas la fonto di ca versiono. Mea

> tilnuna explorado =
restis senfrukta. Anke me ne savas lo. Tamen me recente

> deskovris =
tre frua versiono tre simila ad ica, en yena verko:

>

>

&=
gt;

> Pregi e konfeso per la linguo internaciona Ido. Tradukita da L=
. de

> Beaufront. Fontainebleau: Alfred Pouy=C3=A9 1912. 63 p.

&=
gt;

>

>

> Yen la mencionita versiono, lektebla sur p. =
11:

>

>

>

> Nia Patro, qua esas en la cielo,
>

> Vua nomo santigesez;

>

> Vua regno advenez;
>

> Vua volo facesez,

>

> Quale en la cielo, tal=
e sur la tero.

>

> Donez a ni cadie l=E2=80=99omnadia pano,
>

> Ed a ni pardonez nia ofensi,

>

> Quale anke =
ni pardonas a nia ofensanti,

>

> E ne duktez ni ad-en la tent=
o,

>

> Ma liberigez ni de l=E2=80=99 malajo.

>

>=
;

>

> Existas tre poka diferi inter la du versioni, ma un de =
li esas =E2=80=93 o povas

> esar =E2=80=93 teologiale importanta...<=
br>
>

>

>

> La Wikipediala versiono dicas =E2=80=9C=
E ne duktez ni AL tento=E2=80=9D, kontre ke la

> versiono da L. de B=
eaufront (LdB) dicas =E2=80=9CE ne duktez ni AD-EN la tento=E2=80=9D.

&=
gt; Duktar al tento ne esas lo sama kam duktar aden la tento. Parolesas pri=


> nuanco, ma teologiale ica nuanco ne esas neglijinda... La Latina =
versiono

> (same kam la Esperantala, direte tradukita da Zamenhof de=
 la Hebrea)

> montras ke la versiono =E2=80=98aden la tento=E2=80=99=
 esas klare preferinda. Oportus do

> korektigar la Wikipediala versi=
ono e referar per infra noto al verko

> tradukita da LdB.

>
>

>

> Nu, preske samtempe me deskovris plusa versiono, =
anke del traduk-plumo da

> LdB, en yena verko:

>

>
=

>

> Katekismo por l=E2=80=99infanti qui preparas su al unesma Ko=
munio ed al Konfirmo.

> Extraktita ek la katekismo dil doktrino Kris=
tana. Fontainebleau: Imprimerio

> Pouy=C3=A9 1914. 32 + 11 p.

&g=
t;

>

>

> Sur p. 4 di ca verko on povas lektar yena ver=
siono, apene konocata, ma

> certe konocinda, nam plu bela (segun mea=
 judiko) kam l=E2=80=99altra versiono

> supere mencionita:

><=
br>
>

>

> Patro nia qua esas en la cielo,

>

>=
; Vua nomo esez santigata;

>

> Vua regno arivez;

>
=

> Vua volo esez obediata,

>

> Quale en la cielo, tale sur=
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>

> Nia singladi=E2=80=99 panon donez a ni cadie,
>

> E remisez a ni nia debaji,

>

> Quale anke ni=
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>

> E ne duktez ni aden la tenteso,
>

> Ma liberigez ni del malajo.

>

>

>
=

> La prelasta verso esas mem plu preciza kam en l=E2=80=99antea version=
o da LdB: =E2=80=9Cne

> duktez ni aden la tenteso (ne tento!)=E2=80=
=9D. Pluse, =E2=80=9CVua regno arivez=E2=80=9D esas

> teologiale plu=
 forta kam =E2=80=9CVua regno advenez=E2=80=9D. Adveno ne sempre abutas ad<=
br>
> arivo, e la Kristani certe deziras ke la ciel-regno ne nur advenez=
, ma

> fakte arivez... Fine, =E2=80=98singladia pano=E2=80=99 esas a=
nke plu preciza kam =E2=80=98omnadia

> pano=E2=80=99.

>

&=
gt;

>

> Pro omno supere mencionita, me pregas nia Wikipediala=
 experti adjuntar ica

> duesma versiono al indikita pagino, prefere =
kun font-indiko.

>

>

>

> Kordiale,

>
=

>

> Gon=C3=A7alo

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Kara Partaka,

bone, ke tu alegas la cayara EXPOLINGUA.
Generale e kurte dicite, ni esas tre kontenta.
Diale plu multa kam 8 hori, me ipsa bezonas
kelka repozo. Altra samideani, ultre to,
ja expektas postaji de me.

Kordiala saluti
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> Me deziras ed esperas, ke la ca-yara Expolingua en Berlin,
> eventinta dum la pasinta seman-fino, esabez advere sucesoza
> por nia grupo amika, Ido-amiki Berlin, e por Ido ipsa.
>
>   (Partaka)
>



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Kara Partaka,

Kordiala danko pro la ligilo. Me jus parlektis kun aparta ju=
o ica numero
dil olima Ad-avane. Lektinte ol, me tote ne dubitas ke lore ex=
istis Idisti
anke en Portugal, quankam, segun quante me memoras, me trovis =
nula traco
pri Ido-movado en Portugal kande, kelka yari ante nun, me parlek=
tis omna
numeri di Progreso publikigita de pos 1931 (yaro en qua la revuo r=
inaskis
pos la militala interrupto).

Se Adri=C3=A1n Pastrana ankore lektas=
 la mesaji di ca listo, me pregas lu
informar me pri plusa numeri dil olima=
 Ad-avane.

Me kaptas la okaziono por questionar: kad ISH (Ido-Societo Hisp=
ana) ankore
existas? Forsan on povus ja de nun komencar ponderar l'eventual=
a fondo di
ISI (Iberian Societo Idista od Ido-Societo Iberian), ka ne? Me v=
olunte
partoprenus.

Kordiale,

Gon=C3=A7alo

2013/11/17 Partaka 

>
>
> Hola, Goncalo! Se me juste memoras, enretigesis admi=
nime tri PDF-dokumenti
> riproduktanta tri diferanta numeri dil olima revuo=
 *Ad-avane*, ma me
> sucesis trovar nur un ek oli (yaro 1932). Yen la ligil=
o:
> http://kanaria1973.ido.li/idolibrerio/adavane051932.pdf
> Forsan, l'am=
iko Adrian Pastrana, qua posedis ta jurnali, povus dicar ulo
> plusa.
> Alt=
ra-latere, segun semblo. existis Portugalan Idisti ne nur dum la 30a
> yari=
, ma anke dum l'unesma Ido-yari, nam se ne, on ne povabus diskursar per
> I=
do en Portugal, adminime kun Couturat, qua mortabis en 1914.
> Maxim probab=
le, se tu revizos atencoze anciena numeri di PROGRESO, quin tu
> certe pose=
das, tu deskovros Portugalan Idisti lora. Bona fortuno!
> (Partaka)
> http:=
//groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoC=
atalaOccitan -
>
> El Domingo 17 de noviembre de 2013 1:05, Gon=C3=A7alo Ne=
ves 
> escribi=C3=B3:
>
> Kara Par-taka,
>
> Danko pro =
tua informo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en mea lando. Me
> joyas. Ta=
men la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsultebla en mea
> ermiteyo..=
.
>
> Kordiale,
>
> Gon=C3=A7alo
>
> 2013/11/16 Partaka 
>
> >
> >Kara Goncalo:
> >
> >Meajudike, diskurso per Ido povas sign=
ifikar nulo altra
> >kam diskurso en Ido; on diskursis en/per la linguo Ido=
.
> >
> >Pri la posibla existo di olima Idisti en tua lando, Portugal,
> >f=
orsan oportus, ke tu povez konsultar la olima revuo *Ad-avane*,
> >qua publ=
ikigesis dal Hispana Ido-Societo dum la 20a e 30a yari
> >(kelka numeri int=
erne dil jurnalo *Acci=C3=B3n Cultural*). Ibe aludesas
> >la posibla kreo d=
il *Federaci=C3=B3n Idista Ib=C3=A9rica* por probar rajuntar
> >Idisti di H=
ispania e Portugal. Do, segun semblo, olim existis Idisti
> >en Portugal, a=
dminime dum la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua texto.
> >
> >Standez bone,=
 amiko!
> >
> >(Generalo Ido von Partaka)
> >
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/gr=
oup/posta_Mundi -
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> >
>=
 >El Mi=C3=A9rcoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@gmail.com" <
>=
 gneves64@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3:
> >
> >En la protokolo pri la Internaci=
ona Ido-Konfero en Lauenburg, Germania
> (julio 1931) me lektis ke la famoz=
a Ido-pioniro Heinrich Peus naracis pri
> "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beauf=
ront ed Oswald, pri diskursi per Ido en
> Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 19=
31, nro 5, p. 68).
> >
> >Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskurs=
i per Ido en Portugal?
> Til nun me deskovris nula traco pri la existo di i=
disti en Portugal, til ke
> me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.
> >
> >Me=
 anke ne bone intelektas quo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en', nek
> 'pr=
i') Ido...
> >
> >
>
>
>  
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Me kaptas la okaziono por questionar: =
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=C2=A0
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http://groups.yahoo.com=
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatal=
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Kara Par-taka,



Danko =
pro tua informo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en mea lando. Me joyas. =
Tamen la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsultebla en mea ermiteyo..=
.



Kordiale,



Gon=C3=A7alo



2013/11/16 Partaka <=
qualevistandas=
@yahoo.es>



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>Kara Goncalo:=C2=A0

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>

&=
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -=C2=A0

>http://grou=
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>

>El Mi=C3=A9rcole=
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>

>En la protokolo pri la Internaciona Ido-Konfero en Lauen=
burg, Germania (julio 1931) me lektis ke la famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich Peu=
s naracis pri "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, pri dis=
kursi per Ido en Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).

>

>Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido=
 en Portugal? Til nun me deskovris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en Po=
rtugal, til ke me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.

>

>Me an=
ke ne bone intelektas quo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en', nek =
'pri') Ido...

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 

>


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r ankor-foye pri mea fola deziro, ma, ca-foye, kun energio ed entuziasmo se=
nmezura, qua semblis ne aceptar ekirar mea cerebro, quaze on esis esforcant=
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Ube? En vilajo proxim l'urbo Valencia (Valencia-lando), quan me ha=
bitis dum mea tota puereso e til mea fresh adulteso, kande me sucesis diven=
ar ne-dependanta por instalar me sole, unesme, che l'urbo Valencia, e plu t=
arde  che l'urbo Barcelona (Katalunia). Tamen, pro motivi familial e s=
entimental, me restis sempre interligata kun la  mencionita vilajo, qu=
an me kustumas durar vizitar tempope.   



Kande? Yen ke to, quon me raportos de pos nun, eventis, pr=
ecize, dum un ek mea viziti e sejorni plur-dia en ta vilajo, kande l' 20ma =
yarcento esis balde departonta. 

Quale? Ha, quale! Yen do. Ta-die, me esis tranquile promenanta exter la =
vilajo ipsa, kande, tote ne-expektite, me komencis pensar ankor-foye pri me=
a fola deziro, ma, ca-foye, kun energio ed entuziasmo senmezura, qua sembli=
s ne aceptar ekirar mea cerebro, quaze on esis esforcanta komunikar a me, k=
e me mustas obliviar por sempre mea revo e ne plus pripensar ol, ecepte se =
me esos advere kapabla realigar ol ul-maniere. E to omna, maxim evidente, p=
or mea propra saneso mental. To esis do klara invito por ke me abandonez me=
a tote ne-realigebla absurdajo, ka ne? Quale me povus voyajar en la tempo? =
Per qual mashino? Ho, me ya bezonus adminime sorto di miraklo simil ad olti=
, qui raportesis pri Jesu ipsa, ka ne? He! Ka me dicis
 "mashino"? Ka me di=
cis MASHINO? Subite, enorma ideo atingabis me... Ka ne veresas, ke ni posed=
as maxim povoza mashino, *kuya kapableson, segun semblo, ni profitas apen 1=
0 procente od admaxime 20 procente? Ho, yes, la cerebro! Yen: la cerebro. K=
a me sucesus retroirar en la tempo per mea cerebro? Ka me vehus percerebre =
til atingar mea skopo? Pro quo ne?! Ka me ne asertis kredar, ke omno posibl=
esas? Ka me ne parkonvinkesas prie? Se yes, oportos nur decidar de ube exak=
te, kande e quale, me vizos departar.   




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Me pregas via kompreno e predankas ro via agado.

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Kara Frank, ed altri
Yes, me konkordas. Anke me deziras insertar la dati en=
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Saluti amikala,
Hans St=
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Amsterdam
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ermino til maxim tarde la 10ma di decembro 2013.
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Kordiale s=
alutas vi omna
Frank Kasper
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D- 90243 Nuernberg
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Saluti am=
ikala,

Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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(B. de Spinoza)
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Me deziras ad omna =
membri di Idolisto ed IdoCatalOccitan agreabla semanofino.

Kordiale salutas vi omna


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Kara kunlukteri,

ja dum pasinta yari me poke skribis pri la Expolingua, precipue en la 
kayeri di Ido-Saluto.
Yen mea cayara raporteto

Segun oficala komuniko venis dum la tri dii exakte 12.375 
linguo-interesati. Li prizis grandskala ofro di ca ferio ed juis lua 
atmosfero.

Ol esas loko en qua on kompras moyeni por nur vakancar, od ube on 
renkontras omnasorta tradukisti. Anke ofresas vakanceyi en qui on povas 
lernar autentike la dezirata linguo. Pluse, serchesas 
linguo-instruktisti e docisti por skoli en multa mondoparti ed, me 
adjuntas, on ofras loki en la vasta mondo por ibe solidare helpar.
E de ube venis la gasti ye nia expozeto ?
Preske normala, segun la Idoamiki Berlin, esis la viziti di Japoniani, 
Chiniani e US-amerikani che ni. Kontree la vizitanti di Bolivia esis 
surprizo. Ni astonesis pri granda grupo di studianti e docisti de Minsk/ 
Bielorusia. Preske omna nia Ruslingua propagili atingis lia manui. Ni 
joyis anke pri la veno di yuna gespozi Israel-Palestinana. Che nia 
estaleyo Ido prizentesis dal Liberiano Kennedy per la Angla, Laura per 
sua linguo Lituana, mea amiko Gert de Rastatt e, kompreninde anke da du 
yuna mulieri de Berlinana cirkumajo, qui lernas che ni. Anke cayare nia 
estaleyo esis dekorata per la grand afisho pri la Europana 
linguo-politiko, kreita da la Adrian Pastrana de la Kanarian Insuli. 
Sempre itere, simile dum la pasinta yari, la kurioza questionanti  
konstatis, ke til nun li ne audis la vorto "Ido", kelki mem ne savis la 
existo di Esperanto. Cetere, anke kelka Esperantisti del exterlando 
vizitis nia expozeto ed inquestis pri la diferi di amba auxiliara 
lingui. Li regretis, ke amba lingui marchadas sur separita voyi. Segun 
la Berlinan Idisti, amba marchas vers sama skopo, . La chefproblemo esas 
la neyusta internaciona komunikado per un nacional linguo. Pro to ni 
titulizis nia expozo per "Ido, la duesma linguo por omni".
Absolute mencioninda: La  publika diskurso da d-ro Groth esis extreme 
interesiva , segun l?opiniono di nombroz auskultinti.
Generale on povas konstatar, la ferio di lingui esas impresiva evento. 
Mem, se Ido ne esus prizentata, ica expozo montras kelke la mondo ed 
invitas deskovrar la mondo ed olua lingui.

Amikale
Eberhard



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Kara kunlukteri,

      

      ja dum pasinta yari me poke skribis pri la Expolingua, precipue en
      la kayeri di Ido-Saluto.

      Yen mea cayara raporteto

      
 Segun oficala komuniko venis dum la tri dii
        exakte 12.375 linguo-interesati.�
          Li prizis grandskala ofro di ca ferio ed juis lua atmosfero.

         

      
 Ol esas loko en qua on kompras
        moyeni por nur vakancar, od ube on renkontras omnasorta
        tradukisti. Anke ofresas vakanceyi en qui on povas lernar
        autentike la dezirata linguo. Pluse, serchesas
        linguo-instruktisti e docisti por skoli en multa mondoparti ed,
        me adjuntas, on ofras loki en la vasta mondo por ibe solidare
        helpar. 

        E de ube venis la gasti ye nia expozeto ? 

        Preske normala, segun la Idoamiki Berlin, esis la viziti di
        Japoniani, Chiniani e US-amerikani che ni. Kontree la vizitanti
        di Bolivia esis surprizo. Ni astonesis pri granda grupo di
        studianti e docisti de Minsk/ Bielorusia. Preske omna nia
        Ruslingua propagili atingis lia manui. Ni joyis anke pri la veno
        di yuna gespozi Israel-Palestinana. Che nia estaleyo Ido
        prizentesis dal Liberiano Kennedy per la Angla, Laura per sua
        linguo Lituana, mea amiko Gert de Rastatt e, kompreninde anke da
        du yuna mulieri de Berlinana cirkumajo, qui lernas che ni. Anke
        cayare nia estaleyo esis dekorata per la grand afisho pri la
        Europana linguo-politiko, kreita da la Adrian Pastrana de la
        Kanarian Insuli. Sempre itere, simile dum la pasinta yari, la
        kurioza questionanti� konstatis, ke til nun li ne audis la vorto
        "Ido", kelki mem ne savis la existo di Esperanto. Cetere, anke
        kelka Esperantisti del exterlando vizitis nia expozeto ed
        inquestis pri la diferi di amba auxiliara lingui. Li regretis,
        ke amba lingui marchadas sur separita voyi. Segun la Berlinan
        Idisti, amba marchas vers sama skopo, . La chefproblemo esas la
        neyusta internaciona komunikado per un nacional linguo. Pro to
        ni titulizis nia expozo per "Ido, la duesma linguo por omni".

        Absolute mencioninda: La� publika diskurso da d-ro Groth esis
        extreme interesiva , segun l´opiniono di nombroz auskultinti.

        Generale on povas konstatar, la ferio di lingui esas impresiva
        evento. �Mem, se Ido ne esus
        prizentata, ica expozo montras kelke la mondo ed invitas
        deskovrar la mondo ed olua lingui.

      

      
 Amikale

        Eberhard

      

      


      

    

  


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Estimata Eberhard: 
 

 Me maxim volunte deziras dankar tu, ankor-foye, 
 pro un plusa raporto pri la linguo-ferio Expolingua, 
 ca-kaze pri Expolingua 2013, olqua, quale kustumale, 
 partoprenesis dal grupo Ido-amiki Berlin, por difuzar Ido. 
 

 Damko e gratuli pro via Ido-laboro, samideani! 
 

 

 P A R T A K A 
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 Kara kunlukteri,
 
 ja dum pasinta yari me poke skribis pri la Expolingua, precipue en la kayeri di Ido-Saluto.
 Yen mea cayara raporteto
 Segun oficala komuniko venis dum la tri dii exakte 12.375 linguo-interesati.  Li prizis grandskala ofro di ca ferio ed juis lua atmosfero.
 
 Ol esas loko en qua on kompras moyeni por nur vakancar, od ube on renkontras omnasorta tradukisti. Anke ofresas vakanceyi en qui on povas lernar autentike la dezirata linguo. Pluse, serchesas linguo-instruktisti e docisti por skoli en multa mondoparti ed, me adjuntas, on ofras loki en la vasta mondo por ibe solidare helpar. 
 E de ube venis la gasti ye nia expozeto ? 
 Preske normala, segun la Idoamiki Berlin, esis la viziti di Japoniani, Chiniani e US-amerikani che ni. Kontree la vizitanti di Bolivia esis surprizo. Ni astonesis pri granda grupo di studianti e docisti de Minsk/ Bielorusia. Preske omna nia Ruslingua propagili atingis lia manui. Ni joyis anke pri la veno di yuna gespozi Israel-Palestinana. Che nia estaleyo Ido prizentesis dal Liberiano Kennedy per la Angla, Laura per sua linguo Lituana, mea amiko Gert de Rastatt e, kompreninde anke da du yuna mulieri de Berlinana cirkumajo, qui lernas che ni. Anke cayare nia estaleyo esis dekorata per la grand afisho pri la Europana linguo-politiko, kreita da la Adrian Pastrana de la Kanarian Insuli. Sempre itere, simile dum la pasinta yari, la kurioza questionanti  konstatis, ke til nun li ne audis la vorto "Ido", kelki mem ne savis la existo di Esperanto. Cetere, anke kelka Esperantisti del exterlando vizitis nia expozeto ed inquestis pri la diferi di amba auxiliara lingui. Li regretis, ke amba lingui marchadas sur separita voyi. Segun la Berlinan Idisti, amba marchas vers sama skopo, . La chefproblemo esas la neyusta internaciona komunikado per un nacional linguo. Pro to ni titulizis nia expozo per "Ido, la duesma linguo por omni".
 Absolute mencioninda: La  publika diskurso da d-ro Groth esis extreme interesiva , segun l´opiniono di nombroz auskultinti.
 Generale on povas konstatar, la ferio di lingui esas impresiva evento.  Mem, se Ido ne esus prizentata, ica expozo montras kelke la mondo ed invitas deskovrar la mondo ed olua lingui.
 
 Amikale
 Eberhard
 
 



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Kara Partaka,

me volas adjuntar lo sequanta
La Berlinan Idisti havas bona relati al Esperantisti.
L´atmosfero di nia relati a li ne nur esas respektoza ma
preske amikesal.
Yen anke rezulto pos la Expolingua

Kordile,  Eberhard



Von: Partaka
Datum: 22.11.2013 23:58
>
> Estimata Eberhard:
>
> Me maxim volunte deziras dankar tu, ankor-foye,
>
> pro un plusa raporto pri la linguo-ferio Expolingua,
>
> ca-kaze pri Expolingua 2013, olqua, quale kustumale,
>
> partoprenesis dal grupo Ido-amiki Berlin, por difuzar Ido.
>
> Damko e gratuli pro via Ido-laboro, samideani!
>
> P A R T A K A
>
> * * * * * * * * * *
>
> ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote
> Kara kunlukteri,
>
> ja dum pasinta yari me poke skribis pri la Expolingua, precipue en la 
> kayeri di Ido-Saluto.
> Yen mea cayara raporteto
>
> Segun oficala komuniko venis dum la tri dii exakte 12.375 
> linguo-interesati.  Li prizis grandskala ofro di ca ferio ed juis lua 
> atmosfero.
>
> Ol esas loko en qua on kompras moyeni por nur vakancar, od ube on 
> renkontras omnasorta tradukisti. Anke ofresas vakanceyi en qui on 
> povas lernar autentike la dezirata linguo. Pluse, serchesas 
> linguo-instruktisti e docisti por skoli en multa mondoparti ed, me 
> adjuntas, on ofras loki en la vasta mondo por ibe solidare helpar.
> E de ube venis la gasti ye nia expozeto ?
> Preske normala, segun la Idoamiki Berlin, esis la viziti di Japoniani, 
> Chiniani e US-amerikani che ni. Kontree la vizitanti di Bolivia esis 
> surprizo. Ni astonesis pri granda grupo di studianti e docisti de 
> Minsk/ Bielorusia. Preske omna nia Ruslingua propagili atingis lia 
> manui. Ni joyis anke pri la veno di yuna gespozi Israel-Palestinana. 
> Che nia estaleyo Ido prizentesis dal Liberiano Kennedy per la Angla, 
> Laura per sua linguo Lituana, mea amiko Gert de Rastatt e, kompreninde 
> anke da du yuna mulieri de Berlinana cirkumajo, qui lernas che ni. 
> Anke cayare nia estaleyo esis dekorata per la grand afisho pri la 
> Europana linguo-politiko, kreita da la Adrian Pastrana de la Kanarian 
> Insuli. Sempre itere, simile dum la pasinta yari, la kurioza 
> questionanti  konstatis, ke til nun li ne audis la vorto "Ido", kelki 
> mem ne savis la existo di Esperanto. Cetere, anke kelka Esperantisti 
> del exterlando vizitis nia expozeto ed inquestis pri la diferi di amba 
> auxiliara lingui. Li regretis, ke amba lingui marchadas sur separita 
> voyi. Segun la Berlinan Idisti, amba marchas vers sama skopo, . La 
> chefproblemo esas la neyusta internaciona komunikado per un nacional 
> linguo. Pro to ni titulizis nia expozo per "Ido, la duesma linguo por 
> omni".
> Absolute mencioninda: La  publika diskurso da d-ro Groth esis extreme 
> interesiva , segun l´opiniono di nombroz auskultinti.
> Generale on povas konstatar, la ferio di lingui esas impresiva evento. 
> Mem, se Ido ne esus prizentata, ica expozo montras kelke la mondo ed 
> invitas deskovrar la mondo ed olua lingui.
>
> Amikale
> Eberhard
>
> ,_._,___


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Kara Partaka,

      

      me volas adjuntar lo sequanta

      La Berlinan Idisti havas bona relati al Esperantisti.

      L´atmosfero di nia relati a li ne nur esas respektoza ma 

      preske amikesal.  

      Yen anke rezulto pos la Expolingua

      

      Kordile,  Eberhard

      

      

      

      Von: Partaka

      Datum: 22.11.2013 23:58

    

    

      
      
      

      Estimata Eberhard: 
      
Me maxim volunte deziras dankar tu, ankor-foye, 

      
pro un plusa raporto pri la linguo-ferio Expolingua, 

      
ca-kaze pri Expolingua 2013, olqua, quale kustumale, 

      
partoprenesis dal grupo Ido-amiki Berlin, por difuzar Ido. 

      
Damko e gratuli pro via Ido-laboro, samideani! 

      
P A R T A K A 

      
* * * * * * * * * *  

      ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote
      

        

          
Kara kunlukteri,

            

            ja dum pasinta yari me poke skribis pri la Expolingua,
            precipue en la kayeri di Ido-Saluto.

            Yen mea cayara raporteto

            
 Segun oficala
              komuniko venis dum la tri dii exakte 12.375
                linguo-interesati.  Li prizis grandskala ofro di ca
                ferio ed juis lua atmosfero.

               

            
 Ol esas loko en qua on
              kompras moyeni por nur vakancar, od ube on renkontras
              omnasorta tradukisti. Anke ofresas vakanceyi en qui on
              povas lernar autentike la dezirata linguo. Pluse,
              serchesas linguo-instruktisti e docisti por skoli en multa
              mondoparti ed, me adjuntas, on ofras loki en la vasta
              mondo por ibe solidare helpar. 

              E de ube venis la gasti ye nia expozeto ? 

              Preske normala, segun la Idoamiki Berlin, esis la viziti
              di Japoniani, Chiniani e US-amerikani che ni. Kontree la
              vizitanti di Bolivia esis surprizo. Ni astonesis pri
              granda grupo di studianti e docisti de Minsk/ Bielorusia.
              Preske omna nia Ruslingua propagili atingis lia manui. Ni
              joyis anke pri la veno di yuna gespozi Israel-Palestinana.
              Che nia estaleyo Ido prizentesis dal Liberiano Kennedy per
              la Angla, Laura per sua linguo Lituana, mea amiko Gert de
              Rastatt e, kompreninde anke da du yuna mulieri de
              Berlinana cirkumajo, qui lernas che ni. Anke cayare nia
              estaleyo esis dekorata per la grand afisho pri la Europana
              linguo-politiko, kreita da la Adrian Pastrana de la
              Kanarian Insuli. Sempre itere, simile dum la pasinta yari,
              la kurioza questionanti  konstatis, ke til nun li ne audis
              la vorto "Ido", kelki mem ne savis la existo di Esperanto.
              Cetere, anke kelka Esperantisti del exterlando vizitis nia
              expozeto ed inquestis pri la diferi di amba auxiliara
              lingui. Li regretis, ke amba lingui marchadas sur separita
              voyi. Segun la Berlinan Idisti, amba marchas vers sama
              skopo, . La chefproblemo esas la neyusta internaciona
              komunikado per un nacional linguo. Pro to ni titulizis nia
              expozo per "Ido, la duesma linguo por omni".

              Absolute mencioninda: La  publika diskurso da d-ro Groth
              esis extreme interesiva , segun l´opiniono di nombroz
              auskultinti.

              Generale on povas konstatar, la ferio di lingui esas
              impresiva evento.  Mem,
              se Ido ne esus prizentata, ica expozo montras kelke la
              mondo ed invitas deskovrar la mondo ed olua lingui.

            

            
 Amikale

              Eberhard

            

            ,_._,___

        

      

    

    

  


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Ye ca dio, 23 november...

1221. Alfonso 10ma, rejulo di Kastilia e Leon de=
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a Imperio, ma ne sucesis. Heme, il esforcis agar kontre povoza nobeli. Il h=
avis intereso pri cienco; il employis eruditi qui tradukis Arabiana ciencal=
a texti aden la Kastiliana linguo. il aranjis la kreado di la Alfonsala Tab=
eli - "tabulae alfonsinae" - per qui on povis obtenar la loki di la suno, l=
uno e planeti, relate la steli; la fonto esis Arabiana texti. Ca tabeli esi=
s utiligata dum multa sequanta yari; la astronomo Copernicus, tri yarcenti =
pose, havis kopiuro.

1834. La verko "Harold en Italia", por alto ed orkest=
ro, da Hector Berlioz, esis unesmafoye pleata.=A0Ol esis inspirata da la po=
emo "Childe Harold's Pilgrimage" da Byron.=A0Berlioz kompozis ol por Niccol=
o Paganini, qua recente aquirabis alto facita da Stradivarius e demandis no=
va kompozuro en qua il povis plear sua instrumento. Tamen Paganini, plu tar=
de regardante la kompleta verko, ne deziris plear ol pro ke la parto por al=
to ne esas suficante salianta; il ne partoprenis la unesma pleado. Kande il=
 unesmafoye audis la verko en decembro 1838, il multe prizis ol ed il sendi=
s gratulanta mesajo a Berlioz, kun 20000 franki.=A0

1890. Willem 3ma, reju=
lo di Nederlando e granda duko di Luxemburgia de 1849, mortis. Il havis tri=
 filiuli, qui omne ante-mortis il, ed un filiino, Wilhelmina, qua divenis r=
ejino di Nederlando. En Luxemburgia, Adolphe, duko di Nassau til 1866, tre =
distanta kuzulo di Willem 3ma, esis la sucedanta granda duko. Wilhelmina na=
skis en 1880, e dum frua yari elua matro, Emma di Waldeck e Pyrmont, esis r=
egento. En 1898 el esis entronigata; el esis rejino di Nederlando til abdik=
o en 1948. El mortis en 1962.

La atachita imajo montras pagini de la=A0=A0=
"tabulae alfonsinae".

Kordiale DGW
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1221. Alfonso 10ma, rejulo di Kastilia e Leon de 1252, naskis. Il esis mul=
te okupata pri sekurar la krono di la Santa Romana Imperio, ma ne sucesis. =
Heme, il esforcis agar kontre povoza nobeli. Il havis intereso pri cienco; =
il employis eruditi qui tradukis Arabiana ciencala texti aden la Kastiliana=
 linguo. il aranjis la kreado di la Alfonsala Tabeli - "tabulae alfonsinae"=
 - per qui on povis obtenar la loki di la suno, luno e planeti, relate la s=
teli; la fonto esis Arabiana texti. Ca tabeli esis
 utiligata dum multa seq=
uanta
 yari; la astronomo Copernicus, tri yarcenti pose, havis kopiuro.

1834. La verko "Harold en Italia", por alto ed=
 orkestro, da Hector Berlioz, esis unesmafoye pleata. Ol esis inspirata da la poemo "Childe Harold's Pilgrimage" da Byron. Berlioz kompozis ol por Nic=
colo Paganini, qua recente aquirabis alto facita da Stradivarius e demandis=
 nova kompozuro en qua il
 povis plear sua instrumento. Tamen Paganini, plu=

 tarde regardante la kompleta verko, ne deziris
 plear ol pro ke la
 parto=
 por alto ne esas suficante salianta; il ne partoprenis la unesma pleado.
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Kande il unesmafoye audis la verko en decembro 1838, il multe prizis ol ed =
il sendis gratulanta mesajo a Berlioz, kun 20000 franki. 
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=

1890. Willem 3ma, rejulo di Nederlando e granda duko di Luxemburg=
ia de 1849, mortis. Il havis tri filiuli, qui omne ante-mortis il, ed un fi=
liino, Wilhelmina, qua divenis rejino di Nederlando. En Luxemburgia, Adolph=
e, duko di Nassau til 1866, tre distanta kuzulo di Willem 3ma, esis la suce=
danta granda duko. Wilhelmina naskis en 1880, e dum frua yari elua matro, E=
mma di Waldeck e Pyrmont, esis regento. En 1898 el esis entronigata; el esi=
s rejino di Nederlando til abdiko en
 1948. El mortis en 1962.
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La atachita imajo montras pagini de la  "tabulae alfonsinae".

Kordiale DGW

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Saluti!

Me havas questiono pri informatiko.

En Esperanto, on tradukas la angliana "file" e "directory" per la vorti 
"dosiero" e "dosierujo". Me ne tre prizas ta vorti, speciale la unesma, 
nam ol esas falsa amiko di la franciana "dossier", t.e. la kontenuyo, 
"directory". To ofte konfuzigas me.

Segun Wikivortaro, en Ido on povas uzar "*savaro" o "faylo", ma la 
unesma esas neofical e la altra ne havas artiklo.

Kad existas altra alternativi? Quale vi dicas "dosierujo"?

Predanko pro via respondi!
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En Progreso 352 (aprilo-agosto 2012) on povas lektar ke la vorto *failo
esa=
s propozita da Tiberio Madonna, lora Sekretario por Linguala Questioni),
po=
r diskutado e votado en la Linguala Komitato. Me ne savas quo eventis
pose,=
 ma me ne dubitas ke, plu o min frue, la vorto *failo aprobesos.
Atencez: l=
a korekta formo esas *failo, ne *faylo (quan me mispropozis en
SIL).

'sava=
ro' esas tote neapta, segun me.

Por tradukar 'folder' me propozas 'portfol=
io', qua ja existas en la linguo.


2013/11/23 Christophe Chazarein 

>
>
> Saluti!
>
> Me havas questiono pri informatiko.
>
=
> En Esperanto, on tradukas la angliana "file" e "directory" per la vorti
>=
 "dosiero" e "dosierujo". Me ne tre prizas ta vorti, speciale la unesma,
> =
nam ol esas falsa amiko di la franciana "dossier", t.e. la kontenuyo,
> "di=
rectory". To ofte konfuzigas me.
>
> Segun Wikivortaro, en Ido on povas uza=
r "*savaro" o "faylo", ma la
> unesma esas neofical e la altra ne havas art=
iklo.
>
> Kad existas altra alternativi? Quale vi dicas "dosierujo"?
>
> Pr=
edanko pro via respondi!
> --
> Christophe Chazarein
> T=C3=A9l.: (+33)-631=
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'savaro&#=
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nam ol esas falsa amiko di la franciana "dossier", =
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"directory". To ofte konfuzigas me.

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lo", ma la 

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Kad existas altra alternativi? Quale vi dicas "dosierujo"?


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Tre bone. Me tote konsentas.
 Hermann

 

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 En Progreso 352 (aprilo-agosto 2012) on povas lektar ke la vorto *failo esas propozita da Tiberio Madonna, lora Sekretario por Linguala Questioni), por diskutado e votado en la Linguala Komitato. Me ne savas quo eventis pose, ma me ne dubitas ke, plu o min frue, la vorto *failo aprobesos. Atencez: la korekta formo esas *failo, ne *faylo (quan me mispropozis en SIL).
 

 'savaro' esas tote neapta, segun me.
 

 Por tradukar 'folder' me propozas 'portfolio', qua ja existas en la linguo.

 
 
 2013/11/23 Christophe Chazarein 
   Saluti!
 
 Me havas questiono pri informatiko.
 
 En Esperanto, on tradukas la angliana "file" e "directory" per la vorti 
 "dosiero" e "dosierujo". Me ne tre prizas ta vorti, speciale la unesma, 
 nam ol esas falsa amiko di la franciana "dossier", t.e. la kontenuyo, 
 "directory". To ofte konfuzigas me.
 
 Segun Wikivortaro, en Ido on povas uzar "*savaro" o "faylo", ma la 
 unesma esas neofical e la altra ne havas artiklo.
 
 Kad existas altra alternativi? Quale vi dicas "dosierujo"?
 
 Predanko pro via respondi!
 -- 
 Christophe Chazarein
 Tél.: (+33)-631-80-40-07
 
 



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Yes, anke me deziras gratular tu pro tua bon aktivesi en Berlin, e la sempr=
e tre interesanta raporto.
La sequanta yaro me certe devas venar a Berlin p=
or partoprenar Expo-lingua kun vi. Voluntez maxim frue savigar da me la dat=
i di Expo-lingua.
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di=
 la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : qua=
levistandas@yahoo.es
Datum : 22/11/2013 23:58
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.co=
m
Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: Expolingua 2013
 
  
    
      
      
      =

Estimata Eberhard: 
Me maxim volunte deziras dankar tu, ankor-foye, 
pro u=
n plusa raporto pri la linguo-ferio Expolingua, 
ca-kaze pri Expolingua 201=
3, olqua, quale kustumale, 
partoprenesis dal grupo Ido-amiki Berlin, por d=
ifuzar Ido. 
Damko e gratuli pro via Ido-laboro, samideani! 
P A R T A K A =

* * * * * * * * * *   
---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
  
    
  
  
    
Kara kunlukteri,
      
      ja dum pasinta y=
ari me poke skribis pri la Expolingua, precipue en
      la kayeri di Ido-S=
aluto.
      Yen mea cayara raporteto
      
 Segun oficala komuniko venis =
dum la tri dii
        exakte 12.375 linguo-interesati. 
          Li prizi=
s grandskala ofro di ca ferio ed juis lua atmosfero.
         
      
 Ol e=
sas loko en qua on kompras
        moyeni por nur vakancar, od ube on renko=
ntras omnasorta
        tradukisti. Anke ofresas vakanceyi en qui on povas =
lernar
        autentike la dezirata linguo. Pluse, serchesas
        lingu=
o-instruktisti e docisti por skoli en multa mondoparti ed,
        me adjun=
tas, on ofras loki en la vasta mondo por ibe solidare
        helpar. 
    =
    E de ube venis la gasti ye nia expozeto ? 
        Preske normala, segu=
n la Idoamiki Berlin, esis la viziti di
        Japoniani, Chiniani e US-am=
erikani che ni. Kontree la vizitanti
        di Bolivia esis surprizo. Ni a=
stonesis pri granda grupo di
        studianti e docisti de Minsk/ Bielorus=
ia. Preske omna nia
        Ruslingua propagili atingis lia manui. Ni joyis=
 anke pri la veno
        di yuna gespozi Israel-Palestinana. Che nia estal=
eyo Ido
        prizentesis dal Liberiano Kennedy per la Angla, Laura per s=
ua
        linguo Lituana, mea amiko Gert de Rastatt e, kompreninde anke da=

        du yuna mulieri de Berlinana cirkumajo, qui lernas che ni. Anke
  =
      cayare nia estaleyo esis dekorata per la grand afisho pri la
        =
Europana linguo-politiko, kreita da la Adrian Pastrana de la
        Kanari=
an Insuli. Sempre itere, simile dum la pasinta yari, la
        kurioza que=
stionanti  konstatis, ke til nun li ne audis la vorto
        "Ido", kelki =
mem ne savis la existo di Esperanto. Cetere, anke
        kelka Esperantist=
i del exterlando vizitis nia expozeto ed
        inquestis pri la diferi di=
 amba auxiliara lingui. Li regretis,
        ke amba lingui marchadas sur s=
eparita voyi. Segun la Berlinan
        Idisti, amba marchas vers sama skop=
o, . La chefproblemo esas la
        neyusta internaciona komunikado per un=
 nacional linguo. Pro to
        ni titulizis nia expozo per "Ido, la duesm=
a linguo por omni".
        Absolute mencioninda: La  publika diskurso da d=
-ro Groth esis
        extreme interesiva , segun l=C2=B4opiniono di nombro=
z auskultinti.
        Generale on povas konstatar, la ferio di lingui esas=
 impresiva
        evento.  Mem, se Ido ne esus
        prizentata, ica exp=
ozo montras kelke la mondo ed invitas
        deskovrar la mondo ed olua li=
ngui.
      
      
 Amikale
        Eberhard
      
      
      
    
  
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Yes, anke me deziras gratular tu pro tua bon aktivesi en Berlin, e la =
sempre tre interesanta raporto.
 
La sequanta yaro=
 me certe devas venar a Berlin por partoprenar Expo-lingua kun vi. Voluntez=
 maxim frue savigar da me la dati di Expo-lingua.
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Ams=
terdam
<=
div>--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Orig=
ineel Bericht----
Van : qualevistandas@yahoo.es
Datum : 22/11/2013 23=
:58
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: Expolin=
gua 2013
















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Estimata Eberhard:=
 

Me maxim volunte deziras dankar tu, ankor-foye,&nbs=
p;
pro un plusa raporto pri la linguo-ferio Expolingua, 
c=
a-kaze pri Expolingua 2013, olqua, quale kustumale, 
partoprenes=
is dal grupo Ido-amiki Berlin, por difuzar Ido. 

Damk=
o e gratuli pro via Ido-laboro, samideani! 


<=
p>P A R T A K A 
* * * * * * * * * *  
 


---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


  

    
  
  
    Kara kunlu=
kteri,

      

      ja dum pasinta yari me poke skribis pri la Expo=
lingua, precipue en
      la kayeri di Ido-Saluto.

      Yen mea cayara=
 raporteto

      
 Segun ofica=
la komuniko venis dum la tri dii
        exakte 12.375 linguo-interes=
ati. 
          Li prizis grandskala ofro di ca ferio ed juis lua atmo=
sfero.

         

      
 Ol esas loko en qua on kompras
     =
   moyeni por nur vakancar, od ube on renkontras omnasorta
        tradukis=
ti. Anke ofresas vakanceyi en qui on povas lernar
        autentike la dezi=
rata linguo. Pluse, serchesas
        linguo-instruktisti e docisti por sko=
li en multa mondoparti ed,
        me adjuntas, on ofras loki en la vasta m=
ondo por ibe solidare
        helpar. 

        E de ube venis la gasti =
ye nia expozeto ? 

        Preske normala, segun la Idoamiki Berlin, es=
is la viziti di
        Japoniani, Chiniani e US-amerikani che ni. Kontree =
la vizitanti
        di Bolivia esis surprizo. Ni astonesis pri granda grup=
o di
        studianti e docisti de Minsk/ Bielorusia. Preske omna nia
    =
    Ruslingua propagili atingis lia manui. Ni joyis anke pri la veno
      =
  di yuna gespozi Israel-Palestinana. Che nia estaleyo Ido
        prizente=
sis dal Liberiano Kennedy per la Angla, Laura per sua
        linguo Lituan=
a, mea amiko Gert de Rastatt e, kompreninde anke da
        du yuna mulieri=
 de Berlinana cirkumajo, qui lernas che ni. Anke
        cayare nia estaley=
o esis dekorata per la grand afisho pri la
        Europana linguo-politiko=
, kreita da la Adrian Pastrana de la
        Kanarian Insuli. Sempre itere,=
 simile dum la pasinta yari, la
        kurioza questionanti  konstati=
s, ke til nun li ne audis la vorto
        "Ido", kelki mem ne savis la exi=
sto di Esperanto. Cetere, anke
        kelka Esperantisti del exterlando vi=
zitis nia expozeto ed
        inquestis pri la diferi di amba auxiliara lin=
gui. Li regretis,
        ke amba lingui marchadas sur separita voyi. Segun=
 la Berlinan
        Idisti, amba marchas vers sama skopo, . La chefproblem=
o esas la
        neyusta internaciona komunikado per un nacional linguo. P=
ro to
        ni titulizis nia expozo per "Ido, la duesma linguo por omni".=


        Absolute mencioninda: La  publika diskurso da d-ro Groth =
esis
        extreme interesiva , segun l=C2=B4opiniono di nombroz auskulti=
nti.

        Generale on povas konstatar, la ferio di lingui esas impre=
siva
        evento.  Mem, se Ido ne esus
  =
      prizentata, ica expozo montras kelke la mondo ed invitas
        desk=
ovrar la mondo ed olua lingui.

      

      
 Am=
ikale

        Eberhard

      

      


      

    

  



    
     

    










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Me ne objecionas 'dosiero'. Tamen, me kredas ke 'portfolio' esas bona propo=
zo, me do konkordas anke.
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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r ke la vorto *failo esas propozita da Tiberio Madonna, lora Sekretario por=
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propozis en SIL).
'savaro' esas tote neapta, segun me.
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unesma esas neof=
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Kad existas altra alternativi? Quale vi d=
icas "dosierujo"?
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Saluti amikala,
 
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Amsterdam
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s en SIL).



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, speciale la unesma, 

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Kara Hans,

yen la dati dil Expolingua 2014 : de  21. til 23. novembro.
Esos bona, se tu explikus nia linguo per tua matrala linguo.
Cetere, me anke konversis kun homo, qua parolis la bas-Germana linguo.
E ta, qua volas,  venez a Berlin.

Yes, la Expolingua esas un vetrino e la FB-forumi esas duesma vetrino d´Ido.

Amikale
Eberhard


Von: jjstuifbergen196l.nl>
Datum: 23.11.2013 20:53
>
>
> Yes, anke me deziras gratular tu pro tua bon aktivesi en Berlin, e la 
> sempre tre interesanta raporto.
> La sequanta yaro me certe devas venar a Berlin por partoprenar 
> Expo-lingua kun vi. Voluntez maxim frue savigar da me la dati di 
> Expo-lingua.
> Saluti amikala,
> Hans Stuifbergen
> Amsterdam
> --
> La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
>
>     ----Origineel Bericht----
>     Van : qualevi .....es
>     Datum : 22/11/2013 23:58
>     Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
>     Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: Expolingua 2013
>
>     Estimata Eberhard:
>
>
>     Me maxim volunte deziras dankar tu, ankor-foye,
>
>     pro un plusa raporto pri la linguo-ferio Expolingua,
>
>     ca-kaze pri Expolingua 2013, olqua, quale kustumale,
>
>     partoprenesis dal grupo Ido-amiki Berlin, por difuzar Ido.
>
>
>     Damko e gratuli pro via Ido-laboro, samideani!
>
>
>
>     P A R T A K A
>
>     * * * * * * * * * *
>
>
>
>     ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>     Kara kunlukteri,
>
>     ja dum pasinta yari me poke skribis pri la Expolingua, precipue en
>     la kayeri di Ido-Saluto.
>     Yen mea cayara raporteto
>
>     Segun oficala komuniko venis dum la tri dii exakte 12.375
>     linguo-interesati.  Li prizis grandskala ofro di ca ferio ed juis
>     lua atmosfero.
>
>     Ol esas loko en qua on kompras moyeni por nur vakancar, od ube on
>     renkontras omnasorta tradukisti. Anke ofresas vakanceyi en qui on
>     povas lernar autentike la dezirata linguo. Pluse, serchesas
>     linguo-instruktisti e docisti por skoli en multa mondoparti ed, me
>     adjuntas, on ofras loki en la vasta mondo por ibe solidare helpar.
>     E de ube venis la gasti ye nia expozeto ?
>     Preske normala, segun la Idoamiki Berlin, esis la viziti di
>     Japoniani, Chiniani e US-amerikani che ni. Kontree la vizitanti di
>     Bolivia esis surprizo. Ni astonesis pri granda grupo di studianti
>     e docisti de Minsk/ Bielorusia. Preske omna nia Ruslingua
>     propagili atingis lia manui. Ni joyis anke pri la veno di yuna
>     gespozi Israel-Palestinana. Che nia estaleyo Ido prizentesis dal
>     Liberiano Kennedy per la Angla, Laura per sua linguo Lituana, mea
>     amiko Gert de Rastatt e, kompreninde anke da du yuna mulieri de
>     Berlinana cirkumajo, qui lernas che ni. Anke cayare nia estaleyo
>     esis dekorata per la grand afisho pri la Europana linguo-politiko,
>     kreita da la Adrian Pastrana de la Kanarian Insuli. Sempre itere,
>     simile dum la pasinta yari, la kurioza questionanti  konstatis, ke
>     til nun li ne audis la vorto "Ido", kelki mem ne savis la existo
>     di Esperanto. Cetere, anke kelka Esperantisti del exterlando
>     vizitis nia expozeto ed inquestis pri la diferi di amba auxiliara
>     lingui. Li regretis, ke amba lingui marchadas sur separita voyi.
>     Segun la Berlinan Idisti, amba marchas vers sama skopo, . La
>     chefproblemo esas la neyusta internaciona komunikado per un
>     nacional linguo. Pro to ni titulizis nia expozo per "Ido, la
>     duesma linguo por omni".
>     Absolute mencioninda: La  publika diskurso da d-ro Groth esis
>     extreme interesiva , segun l´opiniono di nombroz auskultinti.
>     Generale on povas konstatar, la ferio di lingui esas impresiva
>     evento. Mem, se Ido ne esus prizentata, ica expozo montras kelke
>     la mondo ed invitas deskovrar la mondo ed olua lingui.
>
>     Amikale
>     Eberhar
>

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Kara Hans,

      

      yen la dati dil Expolingua 2014 : de  21. til 23. novembro.

      Esos bona, se tu explikus nia linguo per tua matrala linguo.

      Cetere, me anke konversis kun homo, qua parolis la bas-Germana
      linguo.

      E ta, qua volas,  venez a Berlin.

      

      Yes, la Expolingua esas un vetrino e la FB-forumi esas duesma
      vetrino d´Ido.

      

      Amikale

      Eberhard

      

      

      Von: jjstuifbergen196l.nl>

      Datum: 23.11.2013 20:53

    

    

      
      
      
Yes, anke me deziras gratular tu pro tua bon aktivesi en
        Berlin, e la sempre tre interesanta raporto.

      
 

      
La sequanta yaro me certe devas venar a Berlin por
        partoprenar Expo-lingua kun vi. Voluntez maxim frue savigar da
        me la dati di Expo-lingua.

      
 

      
Saluti amikala,

      
 

      
Hans Stuifbergen

      
Amsterdam

      
        
--

          La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)

        

      
      
----Origineel
        Bericht----

        Van : qualevi .....es

        Datum : 22/11/2013 23:58

        Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com

        Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: Expolingua 2013

        

         
        

          
Estimata Eberhard: 

          


          

          
Me maxim volunte deziras dankar tu, ankor-foye, 

          
pro un plusa raporto pri la linguo-ferio Expolingua, 

          
ca-kaze pri Expolingua 2013, olqua, quale kustumale, 

          
partoprenesis dal grupo Ido-amiki Berlin, por difuzar Ido. 

          


          

          
Damko e gratuli pro via Ido-laboro, samideani! 

          


          

          


          

          
P A R T A K A 

          
* * * * * * * * * *  

          


            

            ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, 
            wrote:

            

            

              
Kara kunlukteri,

                

                ja dum pasinta yari me poke skribis pri la Expolingua,
                precipue en la kayeri di Ido-Saluto.

                Yen mea cayara raporteto

                
 Segun oficala
                  komuniko venis dum la tri dii exakte 12.375
                    linguo-interesati.  Li prizis grandskala ofro di ca
                    ferio ed juis lua atmosfero.

                   

                
 Ol esas loko en
                  qua on kompras moyeni por nur vakancar, od ube on
                  renkontras omnasorta tradukisti. Anke ofresas
                  vakanceyi en qui on povas lernar autentike la dezirata
                  linguo. Pluse, serchesas linguo-instruktisti e docisti
                  por skoli en multa mondoparti ed, me adjuntas, on
                  ofras loki en la vasta mondo por ibe solidare helpar.
                  

                  E de ube venis la gasti ye nia expozeto ? 

                  Preske normala, segun la Idoamiki Berlin, esis la
                  viziti di Japoniani, Chiniani e US-amerikani che ni.
                  Kontree la vizitanti di Bolivia esis surprizo. Ni
                  astonesis pri granda grupo di studianti e docisti de
                  Minsk/ Bielorusia. Preske omna nia Ruslingua propagili
                  atingis lia manui. Ni joyis anke pri la veno di yuna
                  gespozi Israel-Palestinana. Che nia estaleyo Ido
                  prizentesis dal Liberiano Kennedy per la Angla, Laura
                  per sua linguo Lituana, mea amiko Gert de Rastatt e,
                  kompreninde anke da du yuna mulieri de Berlinana
                  cirkumajo, qui lernas che ni. Anke cayare nia estaleyo
                  esis dekorata per la grand afisho pri la Europana
                  linguo-politiko, kreita da la Adrian Pastrana de la
                  Kanarian Insuli. Sempre itere, simile dum la pasinta
                  yari, la kurioza questionanti  konstatis, ke til nun
                  li ne audis la vorto "Ido", kelki mem ne savis la
                  existo di Esperanto. Cetere, anke kelka Esperantisti
                  del exterlando vizitis nia expozeto ed inquestis pri
                  la diferi di amba auxiliara lingui. Li regretis, ke
                  amba lingui marchadas sur separita voyi. Segun la
                  Berlinan Idisti, amba marchas vers sama skopo, . La
                  chefproblemo esas la neyusta internaciona komunikado
                  per un nacional linguo. Pro to ni titulizis nia expozo
                  per "Ido, la duesma linguo por omni".

                  Absolute mencioninda: La  publika diskurso da d-ro
                  Groth esis extreme interesiva , segun l´opiniono di
                  nombroz auskultinti.

                  Generale on povas konstatar, la ferio di lingui esas
                  impresiva evento.  Mem, se
                  Ido ne esus prizentata, ica expozo montras kelke la
                  mondo ed invitas deskovrar la mondo ed olua lingui.

                

                
 Amikale

                  Eberhar 

              

            

          

        

      

    

  


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From: "Robert C." 
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Kara Eberhard,

Danko pri vua raporto interesiva pri via bona esforci en Be=
rlin.

Ka la publika diskurso da d-ro Groth editesos? Forsan anke en Ido?

=
Kordiale,
Robert C.


On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:09:41 +0100, Eberhard Scholz w=
rote: 
Kara kunlukteri,

 ja dum pasinta yari me poke skribis pri la Expoli=
ngua, precipue en la kayeri di Ido-Saluto.
 Yen mea cayara raporteto

 Segu=
n oficala komuniko venis dum la tri dii exakte 12.375 linguo-interesati.  L=
i prizis grandskala ofro di ca ferio ed juis lua atmosfero.

 Ol esas loko =
en qua on kompras moyeni por nur vakancar, od ube on renkontras omnasorta t=
radukisti. Anke ofresas vakanceyi en qui on povas lernar autentike la dezir=
ata linguo. Pluse, serchesas linguo-instruktisti e docisti por skoli en mul=
ta mondoparti ed, me adjuntas, on ofras loki en la vasta mondo por ibe soli=
dare helpar. 
 E de ube venis la gasti ye nia expozeto ? 
 Preske normala, =
segun la Idoamiki Berlin, esis la viziti di Japoniani, Chiniani e US-amerik=
ani che ni. Kontree la vizitanti di Bolivia esis surprizo. Ni astonesis pri=
 granda grupo di studianti e docisti de Minsk/ Bielorusia. Preske omna nia =
Ruslingua propagili atingis lia manui. Ni joyis anke pri la veno di yuna ge=
spozi Israel-Palestinana. Che nia estaleyo Ido prizentesis dal Liberiano Ke=
nnedy per la Angla, Laura per sua linguo Lituana, mea amiko Gert de Rastatt=
 e, kompreninde anke da du yuna mulieri de Berlinana cirkumajo, qui lernas =
che ni. Anke cayare nia estaleyo esis dekorata per la grand afisho pri la E=
uropana linguo-politiko, kreita da la Adrian Pastrana de la Kanarian Insuli=
. Sempre itere, simile dum la pasinta yari, la kurioza questionanti  konsta=
tis, ke til nun li ne audis la vorto "Ido", kelki mem ne savis la existo di=
 Esperanto. Cetere, anke kelka Esperantisti del exterlando vizitis nia expo=
zeto ed inquestis pri la diferi di amba auxiliara lingui. Li regretis, ke a=
mba lingui marchadas sur separita voyi. Segun la Berlinan Idisti, amba marc=
has vers sama skopo, . La chefproblemo esas la neyusta internaciona komunik=
ado per un nacional linguo. Pro to ni titulizis nia expozo per "Ido, la due=
sma linguo por omni".
 Absolute mencioninda: La  publika diskurso da d-ro G=
roth esis extreme interesiva , segun l=B4opiniono di nombroz auskultinti.
 =
Generale on povas konstatar, la ferio di lingui esas impresiva evento.  Mem=
, se Ido ne esus prizentata, ica expozo montras kelke la mondo ed invitas d=
eskovrar la mondo ed olua lingui.

 Amikale
 Eberhard



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Kara Frank,

Semblas ke vu miskomprenas la senco dil vorto "termino" qua fo=
rsan esas "fals amiko" por parolanti dil Germana linguo.

Segun Pesch, la s=
enco esas "bloko petra qua indikas la limito di agro, di stadio, la frontie=
ro"; ol havas anke senci gramatikala, logikala, matematikala e mitologiala.=
 Dyer explikas la senco bazala tale: "Termino ne esas limito (o frontiero),=
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Me esperas =
ke vua nova employeso plezos a vu.

Kordiale,
Robert C.


On Fri, 22 Nov 20=
13 08:01:55 +0100, Frank Kasper wrote: 
Kara Franca samideani!


Ye l'unesm=
a di januaro 2014 chanjos la firmo, ube me laboras.
Mea futura chefo dezira=
s saveskar mea vakanc- projeti por la yaro 2014 maxim tarde til la mezo di =
decembro 2013, do nur tri semani pos nun.
Pro konsiderar l'internaciona Ido=
-renkontro od -konfero ye mea vakanc-proojeti me konseque devos savar la ter=
mino til maxim tarde la 10ma di decembro 2013.
Se me ne saveskos la termino=
 til lore me definitive la triesma foyo ne povos asistar l'internaciona Ido=
renkontro.


Me pregas via kompreno e predankas ro via agado.


Me deziras =
ad omna membri di Idolisto ed IdoCatalOccitan agreabla semanofino.


Kordia=
le salutas vi omna
Frank Kasper

Postfach 73 01 28
D- 90243 Nuernberg
Germa=
nia
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faxilo: +490911 4778130810
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Segun la granda Germana-Ido-lexiko da Feder (1920), la Germana 'Termin'
sig=
nifikas 'termino', 'fristo' ed 'asigno'. Hike la vizata senco esas
'fristo'=
, me supozas.

'termino' povas esar konfundigiva anke por Hispane-parolanti=
 , nam
=C2=B4t=C3=A9rmino' en la Hispana esas la lasta dio (la limita dio) =
di fristo
('plazo').


2013/11/23 Robert C. 

>
>
> Kara =
Frank,
>
> Semblas ke vu miskomprenas la senco dil vorto "termino" qua fors=
an esas
> "fals amiko" por parolanti dil Germana linguo.
>
> Segun Pesch, l=
a senco esas "bloko petra qua indikas la limito di agro, di
> stadio, la fr=
ontiero"; ol havas anke senci gramatikala, logikala,
> matematikala e mitol=
ogiala. Dyer explikas la senco bazala tale: "Termino ne
> esas limito (o fr=
ontiero), ma ulo (stono, stango, e.c.) qua indikas la
> limito. Ol ne esas =
extremajo, nam la termini esas sur omna lateri, e ne nur
> ye l'extremaji."=

>
> Me esperas ke vua nova employeso plezos a vu.
>
> Kordiale,
> Robert C=
.
>
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:01:55 +0100, Frank Kasper wrote:
> Kara Franca=
 samideani!
>
> Ye l'unesma di januaro 2014 chanjos la firmo, ube me labora=
s.
> Mea futura chefo deziras saveskar mea vakanc- projeti por la yaro 2014=

> maxim tarde til la mezo di decembro 2013, do nur tri semani pos nun.
> P=
ro konsiderar l'internaciona Ido-renkontro od -konfero ye mea
> vakanc-proj=
eti me konseque devos savar la termino til maxim tarde la 10ma
> di decembr=
o 2013.
> Se me ne saveskos la termino til lore me definitive la triesma fo=
yo ne
> povos asistar l'internaciona Idorenkontro.
>
> Me pregas via kompre=
no e predankas ro via agado.
>
> Me deziras ad omna membri di Idolisto ed I=
doCatalOccitan agreabla
> semanofino.
>
> Kordiale salutas vi omna
> Frank =
Kasper
>
> Postfach 73 01 28
> D- 90243 Nuernberg
> Germania
> telefonilo: =
+49911 9904930
> faxilo: +490911 4778130810
> portebla tetefonilo: +490176 =
45534248
> e-posto: frank.kasper@ido.li
>
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2013/11/23 Robert C. <ido@avenue.me.uk>

















=C2=A0



  



    

      
      
      
Kara Frank,



Semblas =
ke vu miskomprenas la senco dil vorto "termino" qua forsan esas &=
quot;fals amiko" por parolanti dil Germana linguo.



Segun Pesc=
h, la senco esas "bloko petra qua indikas la limito di agro, di stadio=
, la frontiero"; ol havas anke senci gramatikala, logikala, matematika=
la e mitologiala. Dyer explikas la senco bazala tale: "Termino ne esas=
 limito (o frontiero), ma ulo (stono, stango, e.c.) qua indikas la limito. =
Ol ne esas extremajo, nam la termini esas sur omna lateri, e ne nur ye l=
9;extremaji."




Me esperas ke vua nova employeso plezos a vu.<=
br>


Kordiale,

Robert C.



On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:01:55 +010=
0, Frank Kasper wrote: 

Kara Franca samideani!



Ye l'unesma=
 di januaro 2014 chanjos la firmo, ube me laboras.

Mea futura chefo dez=
iras saveskar mea vakanc- projeti por la yaro 2014 maxim tarde til la mezo =
di decembro 2013, do nur tri semani pos nun.

Pro konsiderar l'inter=
naciona Ido-renkontro od -konfero ye mea vakanc-projeti me konseque devos s=
avar la termino til maxim tarde la 10ma di decembro 2013.

Se me ne save=
skos la termino til lore me definitive la triesma foyo ne povos asistar l&#=
39;internaciona Idorenkontro.



Me pregas via kompreno e predankas r=
o via agado.



Me deziras ad omna membri di Idolisto ed IdoCatalOcci=
tan agreabla semanofino.



Kordiale salutas vi omna

Frank Kasper=




Postfach 73 01 28

D- 90243 Nuernberg

Germania

telefon=
ilo: +49911 9904930

faxilo: +490911 4778130810

p=
ortebla tetefonilo: +490176 45534248

e-posto: frank.kasper@ido.li



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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (4)
 

 

 

 

 Dum ke me, tote ecitite, duris marchar e pensar pri to omna, yen ke, quale quaza respondo a mea questiono, me arivis en loko maxim importanta por me. Fakte, ol esis mea loko preferata; la loko, solitara ed specal, ube, de tempo a tempo, me kustumis reflektar pri mea vivo, ed ube me prenabis mem maxim grava decidi, o por esar plu exakta, ube me kreabis aparta ceremonio por plufortigar tal decidi, e por ne plus regretar oli. Ibe, kom exemplo, ye kelka yari ante lore, pos ke me deklamis laute certena vorti ya ceremonioza, me finabis la rituo per lansar grosa stono fervoyal ad-fore e per mea tota energio, dum klamegar en mea matro-linguo: "A FER PUNYETES!" (me tradukez kom "SUFICANTA! TIL HIKE!"). Mea dextra flanko tre bone memoras tal instanto pro la fortega doloro, quan ol sentis pos la stono-lanso, qua esis advere konsiderinda, e qua duris dolorigar mea korpo dum plura jorni e plura nokti. Tamen, me povas asertar hodie, ke, adminime tilprezente, me nul-tempe repentabas pri mea lora decido, nek pri ceremoniar ol tal-maniere. Kontree: me joyas konstatar, ke to omna esis maxim efikiva. 
 

 E me quik sentis ed intelektis, ke, se esas ula loko specal, de ube me povus probar departar vers irga loko en irg altra tempo, ol esas precize hike, ube me stacas nun, ed ube me sideskos pose... La vilajo, pasable fora ed ad-sinistre ye mea dorso; agri e kanaleti, la ponto dil treno, la rekta fervoyo, la kurva fervoyo, ta sorto di sidila tombo-stono, la kablaro elektral super la kapo, la blua cielo, aeroplani, la varma ed agreabla vetero, la un-sinsa voyegi ad-sube, apud la litego di quaze senaqua fluvio, qua luktas por atingar sua skopo, la maro, quan on povas apen divinar ad-dextre, fore. Ed avan me, ma ne tante fore, l'urbo Valencia, e dorse di me, ma centople plu fore kam Valencia, l'urbo Madrid…  
 

 E me decidis, ke ne ta-die, ma ye l' morga dio matine, me retrovenos en mea divenonta "Cabo Cañaveral" partikulara (o *partakulara*, segun amiko di me) por probar obtenar la fina vinko, o por subisar la fina sinko di mea revo, quo, forsan, duktus me ad ankor un plusa oblivio-rituo bezonata.   
 

 

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 Saluti e til balde! 
 

 

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Me ja vizitabis lu.   Esas bonega.

     Sincera gratuli a Rachel!

     Ralph


On 22/11/2013 21:12, Paul Bartlett wrote:
> A new Ido forum has started up online just in the last few days.
> Obviously, having just begun, there is little on it yet. I do not know
> where else it might have been advertised.
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Me ja vizitabis lu.   Esas bonega.

      

          Sincera gratuli a Rachel!

      

          Ralph

      

      

      On 22/11/2013 21:12, Paul Bartlett wrote:

    

    

      
A new Ido forum has started up online just in the last few days.  
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where else it might have been advertised.

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Kara Goncalo:  
 Recente, tu asertis chanjir tua en-SIL-a opiniono pri *fayro" e simila vorti, quin tu defensabis kom oportuna. Ka tu povas explikar, mem se nur koncize, pro quo e quale tu chanjis tal opiniono? E lore: ka *fai-ro* o *fa-i-ro*? O kad omna du? Predanko. 
 

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Kara Gon=E7alo e Partaka, voluntez lektar ca mesajo che idoespanyol:

http:=
//es.groups.yahoo.com/group/idoespanyol/message/5643

Probable me havas la =
arkivi dil anciena Adavane (me ne savas ube...), intertempe voluntez enirar=
:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080512203506/http://es.geocities.com/krayon=
o/adavane.html

Tale vu povos lektar omna skanita numeri ecepte tri. Me esp=
eras trovor ta tri, me serchos li.

Ne obliviez la unesma Hispana Ido-revuo=
: Laboro qua me kompris a Dana Universitato:

http://www.geocities.ws/kanar=
ia1973/laboro.html

Kordiale

Adri=E1n Pastrana (F=E9lix G=F3mez)

--- In i=
dolisto@yahoogroups.com, Gon=C3=A7alo Neves  wrote:
>
> Kara =
Partaka,
> 
> Kordiala danko pro la ligilo. Me jus parlektis kun aparta juo=
 ica numero
> dil olima Ad-avane. Lektinte ol, me tote ne dubitas ke lore e=
xistis Idisti
> anke en Portugal, quankam, segun quante me memoras, me trov=
is nula traco
> pri Ido-movado en Portugal kande, kelka yari ante nun, me p=
arlektis omna
> numeri di Progreso publikigita de pos 1931 (yaro en qua la =
revuo rinaskis
> pos la militala interrupto).
> 
> Se Adri=C3=A1n Pastrana =
ankore lektas la mesaji di ca listo, me pregas lu
> informar me pri plusa n=
umeri dil olima Ad-avane.
> 
> Me kaptas la okaziono por questionar: kad IS=
H (Ido-Societo Hispana) ankore
> existas? Forsan on povus ja de nun komenca=
r ponderar l'eventuala fondo di
> ISI (Iberian Societo Idista od Ido-Societ=
o Iberian), ka ne? Me volunte
> partoprenus.
> 
> Kordiale,
> 
> Gon=C3=A7a=
lo
> 
> 2013/11/17 Partaka 
> 
> >
> >
> > Hola, Goncal=
o! Se me juste memoras, enretigesis adminime tri PDF-dokumenti
> > riproduk=
tanta tri diferanta numeri dil olima revuo *Ad-avane*, ma me
> > sucesis tr=
ovar nur un ek oli (yaro 1932). Yen la ligilo:
> > http://kanaria1973.ido.l=
i/idolibrerio/adavane051932.pdf
> > Forsan, l'amiko Adrian Pastrana, qua po=
sedis ta jurnali, povus dicar ulo
> > plusa.
> > Altra-latere, segun semblo=
. existis Portugalan Idisti ne nur dum la 30a
> > yari, ma anke dum l'unesm=
a Ido-yari, nam se ne, on ne povabus diskursar per
> > Ido en Portugal, adm=
inime kun Couturat, qua mortabis en 1914.
> > Maxim probable, se tu revizos=
 atencoze anciena numeri di PROGRESO, quin tu
> > certe posedas, tu deskovr=
os Portugalan Idisti lora. Bona fortuno!
> > (Partaka)
> > http://groups.ya=
hoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOcci=
tan -
> >
> > El Domingo 17 de noviembre de 2013 1:05, Gon=C3=A7alo Neves <=
gneves64@...>
> > escribi=C3=B3:
> >
> > Kara Par-taka,
> >
> > Danko pro t=
ua informo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en mea lando. Me
> > joyas. T=
amen la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsultebla en mea
> > ermitey=
o...
> >
> > Kordiale,
> >
> > Gon=C3=A7alo
> >
> > 2013/11/16 Partaka 
> >
> > >
> > >Kara Goncalo:
> > >
> > >Meajudike, diskurs=
o per Ido povas signifikar nulo altra
> > >kam diskurso en Ido; on diskursi=
s en/per la linguo Ido.
> > >
> > >Pri la posibla existo di olima Idisti en=
 tua lando, Portugal,
> > >forsan oportus, ke tu povez konsultar la olima r=
evuo *Ad-avane*,
> > >qua publikigesis dal Hispana Ido-Societo dum la 20a e=
 30a yari
> > >(kelka numeri interne dil jurnalo *Acci=C3=B3n Cultural*). I=
be aludesas
> > >la posibla kreo dil *Federaci=C3=B3n Idista Ib=C3=A9rica* =
por probar rajuntar
> > >Idisti di Hispania e Portugal. Do, segun semblo, o=
lim existis Idisti
> > >en Portugal, adminime dum la 30a yari, qui mencione=
sas en tua texto.
> > >
> > >Standez bone, amiko!
> > >
> > >(Generalo Ido =
von Partaka)
> > >
> > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > >ht=
tp://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> > >
> > >El Mi=C3=A9rcoles=
 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@..." <
> > gneves64@...> escribi=
=C3=B3:
> > >
> > >En la protokolo pri la Internaciona Ido-Konfero en Lauen=
burg, Germania
> > (julio 1931) me lektis ke la famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich=
 Peus naracis pri
> > "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, pri =
diskursi per Ido en
> > Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).=

> > >
> > >Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en P=
ortugal?
> > Til nun me deskovris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en Por=
tugal, til ke
> > me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.
> > >
> > >Me anke =
ne bone intelektas quo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en', nek
> > 'pri') =
Ido...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>




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Kad on ja mencionis hike posibleso pozar filmi kun subtexti (exemple en Ido=
) en la tereno di servo qua, ye bazala nivelo (probable adequata), esas gra=
tuita?

La servo aludita nomesas "dotsub", ed on povas lektar pri ol hike: =
http://dotsub.com

Semblas ke on darfas ne nur prizentar sua filmi kun subt=
ituli, ma anke ofrar tradukuri dil subtituli di filmi ja ofrita da altri. U=
n problemo: ne esas evidenta ke instrucioni esas trovebla ecepte en la Angl=
a.

Por Interlingua esas 20 filmi videbla o preparata. Exemple: http://dots=
ub.com/view/75f8d3f1-0434-481f-b4e5-5cbd3fa2c5b8
Por Interlingue (Occidenta=
l) esas 5 filmi. Por Esperanto esas 20 filmi.

La posiblesi por Ido ibe sem=
blas esar bona, ma esas til nun nur un filmo kun texti en Ido: http://dotsu=
b.com/view/language/both/ido
Semblas ke on povas selektar linguo ye la basa=
 sinistra parto dil filmo-fenestro. Pos la vorto "Indonesian" (Indoneziana)=
 esis "100%", e pos la vorto "Ido" esas "(50%)". Tamen, por ica filmo me ne=
 povis obtenar irga subtexti. Forsan altru sucesos.

Robert C.


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Kara Adri=C3=A1n,

Kordiala danko pro omna ligili. Me balde studios la tota=
 materiaro.

Gon=C3=A7alo


2013/11/26 Adrian Pastrana (Felix Gomez) 

>
>
> Kara Gon=C3=A7alo e Partaka, voluntez lekt=
ar ca mesajo che idoespanyol:
>
> http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/idoespan=
yol/message/5643
>
> Probable me havas la arkivi dil anciena Adavane (me ne=
 savas ube...),
> intertempe voluntez enirar:
>
>
> http://web.archive.org/=
web/20080512203506/http://es.geocities.com/krayono/adavane.html
>
> Tale vu=
 povos lektar omna skanita numeri ecepte tri. Me esperas trovor ta
> tri, m=
e serchos li.
>
> Ne obliviez la unesma Hispana Ido-revuo: Laboro qua me ko=
mpris a Dana
> Universitato:
>
> http://www.geocities.ws/kanaria1973/laboro=
.html
>
> Kordiale
>
> Adri=C3=A1n Pastrana (F=C3=A9lix G=C3=B3mez)
>
>
> -=
-- In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, Gon=C3=883=C2=A7alo Neves  wro=
te:
> >
> > Kara Partaka,
> >
> > Kordiala danko pro la ligilo. Me jus parl=
ektis kun aparta juo ica numero
> > dil olima Ad-avane. Lektinte ol, me tot=
e ne dubitas ke lore existis
> Idisti
> > anke en Portugal, quankam, segun =
quante me memoras, me trovis nula traco
> > pri Ido-movado en Portugal kand=
e, kelka yari ante nun, me parlektis omna
> > numeri di Progreso publikigit=
a de pos 1931 (yaro en qua la revuo rinaskis
> > pos la militala interrupto=
).
> >
> > Se Adri=C3=83=C2=A1n Pastrana ankore lektas la mesaji di ca list=
o, me pregas lu
>
> > informar me pri plusa numeri dil olima Ad-avane.
> >
=
> > Me kaptas la okaziono por questionar: kad ISH (Ido-Societo Hispana)
> a=
nkore
> > existas? Forsan on povus ja de nun komencar ponderar l'eventuala =
fondo di
> > ISI (Iberian Societo Idista od Ido-Societo Iberian), ka ne? Me=
 volunte
> > partoprenus.
> >
> > Kordiale,
> >
> > Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo
> >
=
> > 2013/11/17 Partaka 
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hola, G=
oncalo! Se me juste memoras, enretigesis adminime tri
> PDF-dokumenti
> > >=
 riproduktanta tri diferanta numeri dil olima revuo *Ad-avane*, ma me
> > >=
 sucesis trovar nur un ek oli (yaro 1932). Yen la ligilo:
> > > http://kana=
ria1973.ido.li/idolibrerio/adavane051932.pdf
> > > Forsan, l'amiko Adrian P=
astrana, qua posedis ta jurnali, povus dicar
> ulo
> > > plusa.
> > > Altra=
-latere, segun semblo. existis Portugalaan Idisti ne nur dum la 30a
> > > ya=
ri, ma anke dum l'unesma Ido-yari, nam se ne, on ne povabus
> diskursar per=

> > > Ido en Portugal, adminime kun Couturat, qua mortabis en 1914.
> > > =
Maxim probable, se tu revizos atencoze anciena numeri di PROGRESO,
> quin t=
u
> > > certe posedas, tu deskovros Portugalan Idisti lora. Bona fortuno!
>=
 > > (Partaka)
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > > http=
://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> > >
> > > El Domingo 17 de n=
oviembre de 2013 1:05, Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo Neves 
> > > escrib=
i=C3=83=C2=B3:
>
> > >
> > > Kara Par-taka,
> > >
> > > Danko pro tua infor=
mo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en mea lando.
> Me
> > > joyas. Tamen=
 la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsultebla en mea
> > > ermiteyo.=
..
> > >
> > > Kordiale,
> > >
> > > Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo
> > >
> > > 2013/11=
/16 Partaka 
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Kara Goncalo:
> > >=
 >
> > > >Meajudike, diskurso per Ido povas signifikar nulo altra
> > > >ka=
m diskurso en Ido; on diskursis en/per la linguo Ido.
> > > >
> > > >Pri la=
 posibla existo di olima Idisti en tua lando, Portugal,
> > > >forsan oport=
us, ke tu povez konsultar la olima revuo *Ad-avane*,
> > > >qua publikigesi=
s dal Hispana Ido-Societo dum la 20a e 30a yari
> > > >(kelka numeri intern=
e dil jurnalo *Acci=C3=83=C2=B3n Cultural*). Ibe aludesas
> > > >la posibla=
 kreo dil *Federaci=C3=83=C2=B3n Idista Ib=C3=83=C2=A9rica* por probar raju=
ntar
>
> > > >Idisti di Hispania e Portugal. Do, segun semblo, olim existis=
 Idisti
> > > >en Portugal, adminime dum la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tu=
a texto.
> > > >
> > > >Standez bone, amiko!
> > > >
> > > >(Generalo Ido v=
on Partaka)
> > > >
> > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > =
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> > > >
> > > >El Mi=C3=
=83=C2=A9rcoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@..." <
> > > gneve=
s64@...> escribi=C3=83=C2=B3:
>
> > > >
> > > >En la protokolo pri la Inter=
naciona Ido-Konfero en Lauenburg, Germania
> > > (julio 1931) me lektis ke =
la famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich Peus naracis
> pri
> > > "travivaji kun Cout=
urat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, pri diskursi per Ido
> en
> > > Francia e Por=
tugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).
> > > >
> > > >Ka nia Germana samide=
ani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en
> Portugal?
> > > Til nun me desko=
vris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en Portugal,
> til ke
> > > me rezo=
lvis lernar la linguo en 1997.
> > > >
> > > >Me anke ne bone intelektas qu=
o povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en',
> nek
> > > 'pri') Ido...
> > > >
> =
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

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Kordiala d=
anko pro omna ligili. Me balde studios la tota materiaro.

Gon=C3=A7alo



2013/11/26 Adrian Pastrana (Felix Gomez) <=
conocimientopleno@hotmail.com>

















=C2=A0




  



    <=
div>
      
      
      
Kara Gon=C3=A7alo e Partaka, voluntez lektar ca=
 mesajo che idoespanyol:



http://es.groups.yahoo.com/g=
roup/idoespanyol/message/5643



Probable me havas la arkivi dil =
anciena Adavane (me ne savas ube...), intertempe voluntez enirar:



=
http://web.archive.org/web/200805=
12203506/http://es.geocities.com/krayono/adavane.html



Tale vu =
povos lektar omna skanita numeri ecepte tri. Me esperas trovor ta tri, me s=
erchos li.



Ne obliviez la unesma Hispana Ido-revuo: Laboro qua me =
kompris a Dana Universitato:



http://www.geocities.ws/kanaria197=
3/laboro.html



Kordiale



Adri=C3=A1n Pastrana (F=C3=A9l=
ix G=C3=B3mez)




--- In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, Gon=C3=83=
=C2=A7alo Neves  wrote:

>

> Kara Partaka,=


> 

> Kordiala danko pro la ligilo. Me jus parlektis kun apar=
ta juo ica numero

> dil olima Ad-avane. Lektinte ol, me tote ne dubi=
tas ke lore existis Idisti

> anke en Portugal, quankam, segun quante=
 me memoras, me trovis nula traco

> pri Ido-movado en Portugal kande=
, kelka yari ante nun, me parlektis omna

> numeri di Progreso publik=
igita de pos 1931 (yaro en qua la revuo rinaskis

> pos la militala i=
nterrupto).

> 

> Se Adri=C3=83=C2=A1n Pastrana ankore l=
ektas la mesaji di ca listo, me pregas lu


> inform=
ar me pri plusa numeri dil olima Ad-avane.

> 

> Me kaptas la =
okaziono por questionar: kad ISH (Ido-Societo Hispana) ankore

> exis=
tas? Forsan on povus ja de nun komencar ponderar l'eventuala fondo di
> ISI (Iberian Societo Idista od Ido-Societo Iberian), ka ne? Me volu=
nte

> partoprenus.

> 

> Kordiale,

> 

=
> Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo

> 

> 2013/11/17 Partaka 


> 

> >

> >

&=
gt; > Hola, Goncalo! Se me juste memoras, enretigesis adminime tri PDF-d=
okumenti

> > riproduktanta tri diferanta numeri dil olima revuo *=
Ad-avane*, ma me

> > sucesis trovar nur un ek oli (yaro 1932). Ye=
n la ligilo:

> > http://kanaria1973.ido.li/idolibrerio=
/adavane051932.pdf

> > Forsan, l'amiko Adrian Pastrana, q=
ua posedis ta jurnali, povus dicar ulo

> > plusa.

> > A=
ltra-latere, segun semblo. existis Portugalan Idisti ne nur dum la 30a

=
> > yari, ma anke dum l'unesma Ido-yari, nam se ne, on ne povabus=
 diskursar per

> > Ido en Portugal, adminime kun Couturat, qua mo=
rtabis en 1914.

> > Maxim probable, se tu revizos atencoze ancien=
a numeri di PROGRESO, quin tu

> > certe posedas, tu deskovros Por=
tugalan Idisti lora. Bona fortuno!

> > (Partaka)

> > http:=
//groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -

> > http://groups.ya=
hoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -

> >

> > El D=
omingo 17 de noviembre de 2013 1:05, Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo Neves 

> > escribi=C3=83=C2=B3:


> ><=
br>
> > Kara Par-taka,

> >

> > Danko pro tua info=
rmo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en mea lando. Me

> > joyas=
. Tamen la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsultebla en mea

>=
 > ermiteyo...

> >

> > Kordiale,

> >

> > Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo

> >

> > 2013/11/16 Pa=
rtaka 


> >

> &=
gt; >

> > >Kara Goncalo:

> > >

> > &=
gt;Meajudike, diskurso per Ido povas signifikar nulo altra

> > &g=
t;kam diskurso en Ido; on diskursis en/per la linguo Ido.

> > >=
;

> > >Pri la posibla existo di olima Idisti en tua lando, Por=
tugal,

> > >forsan oportus, ke tu povez konsultar la olima rev=
uo *Ad-avane*,

> > >qua publikigesis dal Hispana Ido-Societo d=
um la 20a e 30a yari

> > >(kelka numeri interne dil jurn=
alo *Acci=C3=83=C2=B3n Cultural*). Ibe aludesas

> > >la posibl=
a kreo dil *Federaci=C3=83=C2=B3n Idista Ib=C3=83=C2=A9rica* por probar raj=
untar


> > >Idisti di Hispania e Portugal. Do=
, segun semblo, olim existis Idisti

> > >en Portugal, adminime=
 dum la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua texto.

> > >

>=
 > >Standez bone, amiko!

> > >

> > >(Genera=
lo Ido von Partaka)

> > >

> > >http://groups.yahoo.c=
om/group/posta_Mundi -

> > >http://groups.yahoo.com/grou=
p/IdoCatalaOccitan -

> > >

> > >El Mi=
=C3=83=C2=A9rcoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@..." =
<

> > gneves64@...> escribi=C3=83=C2=B3:
<=
br>
> > >

> > >En la protokolo pri la Internaciona Id=
o-Konfero en Lauenburg, Germania

> > (julio 1931) me lektis ke la=
 famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich Peus naracis pri

> > "travivaji=
 kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, pri diskursi per Ido en

> >=
; Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).

> > &g=
t;

> > >Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per=
 Ido en Portugal?

> > Til nun me deskovris nula traco pri la exis=
to di idisti en Portugal, til ke

> > me rezolvis lernar la linguo=
 en 1997.

> > >

> > >Me anke ne bone intelektas q=
uo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en', nek

> > 'pri&=
#39;) Ido...

> > >

> > >

> >

> &=
gt;

> >  

> >

>






    
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Anke me ne povis obtenar irga subtexto...


2013/11/26 Robert C. 

>
>
> Kad on ja mencionis hike posibleso pozar filmi kun subtexti=
 (exemple en
> Ido) en la tereno di servo qua, ye bazala nivelo (probable a=
dequata), esas
> gratuita?
>
> La servo aludita nomesas "dotsub", ed on pov=
as lektar pri ol hike:
> http://dotsub.com
>
> Semblas ke on darfas ne nur =
prizentar sua filmi kun subtituli, ma anke
> ofrar tradukuri dil subtituli =
di filmi ja ofrita da altri. Un problemo: ne
> esas evidenta ke instrucioni=
 esas trovebla ecepte en la Angla.
>
> Por Interlingua esas 20 filmi videbl=
a o preparata. Exemple:
> http://dotsub.com/view/75f8d3f1-0434-481f-b4e5-5c=
bd3fa2c5b8
> Por Interlingue (Occidental) esas 5 filmi. Por Esperanto esas =
20 filmi.
>
> La posiblesi por Ido ibe semblas esar bona, ma esas til nun n=
ur un filmo
> kun texti en Ido: http://dotsub.com/view/language/both/ido
> =
Semblas ke on povas selektar linguo ye la basa sinistra parto dil
> filmo-f=
enestro. Pos la vorto "Indonesian" (Indoneziana) esis "100%", e pos
> la vo=
rto "Ido" esas "(50%)". Tamen, por ica filmo me ne povis obtenar irga
> sub=
texti. Forsan altru sucesos.
>
> Robert C.
>  
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Anke me ne povis obtenar irga subtexto...


2013/11/26 Robert C. <i=
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 =
     
      
Kad on ja mencionis hike posibleso pozar filmi kun subtexti =
(exemple en Ido) en la tereno di servo qua, ye bazala nivelo (probable adeq=
uata), esas gratuita?



La servo aludita nomesas "dotsub",=
 ed on povas lektar pri ol hike: http://dotsub.com



Semblas ke on darfas ne nur prizentar =
sua filmi kun subtituli, ma anke ofrar tradukuri dil subtituli di filmi ja =
ofrita da altri. Un problemo: ne esas evidenta ke instrucioni esas trovebla=
 ecepte en la Angla.



Por Interlingua esas 20 filmi videbla o prepa=
rata. Exemple: http://dotsub.com/view/75f8d3f1-0434-481f-b4e=
5-5cbd3fa2c5b8

Por Interlingue (Occidental) esas 5 filmi. Por Esper=
anto esas 20 filmi.



La posiblesi por Ido ibe semblas esar bona, ma=
 esas til nun nur un filmo kun texti en Ido: http://dotsub.com/view/language/bo=
th/ido

Semblas ke on povas selektar linguo ye la basa sinistra part=
o dil filmo-fenestro. Pos la vorto "Indonesian" (Indoneziana) esi=
s "100%", e pos la vorto "Ido" esas "(50%)". =
Tamen, por ica filmo me ne povis obtenar irga subtexti. Forsan altru suceso=
s.




Robert C.




    

     

    
    








  










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Kara amiki:

La altra tri arkivi dil anciena Adavane trovesas che:

http://=
idotenerife.googlepages.com/adavane041936.pdf

http://idotenerife.googlepag=
es.com/adavane011936.pdf

http://idotenerife.googlepages.com/adavane041929.=
pdf

Pri la ISH, regretinde ol ne ja existas.

Amikale!
Adri=E1n Pastrana 
=

--- In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, Gon=C3=A7alo Neves  wrote:
=
>
> Kara Adri=C3=A1n,
> 
> Kordiala danko pro omna ligili. Me balde studios=
 la tota materiaro.
> 
> Gon=C3=A7alo
> 
> 
> 2013/11/26 Adrian Pastrana (F=
elix Gomez) 
> 
> >
> >
> > Kara Gon=C3=A7alo e Part=
aka, voluntez lektar ca mesajo che idoespanyol:
> >
> > http://es.groups.ya=
hoo.com/group/idoespanyol/message/5643
> >
> > Probable me havas la arkivi =
dil anciena Adavane (me ne savas ube...),
> > intertempe voluntez enirar:
>=
 >
> >
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20080512203506/http://es.geocities.co=
m/krayono/adavane.html
> >
> > Tale vu povos lektar omna skanita numeri ece=
pte tri. Me esperas trovor ta
> > tri, me serchos li.
> >
> > Ne obliviez l=
a unesma Hispana Ido-revuo: Laboro qua me kompris a Dana
> > Universitato:
=
> >
> > http://www.geocities.ws/kanaria1973/laboro.html
> >
> > Kordiale
> =
>
> > Adri=C3=A1n Pastrana (F=C3=A9lix G=C3=B3mez)
> >
> >
> > --- In idoli=
sto@yahoogroups.com, Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo Neves  wrote:
> > >
> > =
> Kara Partaka,
> > >
> > > Kordiala danko pro la ligilo. Me jus parlektis =
kun aparta juo ica numero
> > > dil olima Ad-avane. Lektinte ol, me tote ne=
 dubitas ke lore existis
> > Idisti
> > > anke en Portugal, quankam, segun =
quante me memoras, me trovis nula traco
> > > pri Ido-movado en Portugal ka=
nde, kelka yari ante nun, me parlektis omna
> > > numeri di Progreso publik=
igita de pos 1931 (yaro en qua la revuo rinaskis
> > > pos la militala inte=
rrupto).
> > >
> > > Se Adri=C3=83=C2=A1n Pastrana ankore lektas la mesaji =
di ca listo, me pregas lu
> >
> > > informar me pri plusa numeri dil olima =
Ad-avane.
> > >
> > > Me kaptas la okaziono por questionar: kad ISH (Ido-So=
cieto Hispana)
> > ankore
> > > existas? Forsan on povus ja de nun komencar=
 ponderar l'eventuala fondo di
> > > ISI (Iberian Societo Idista od Ido-Soc=
ieto Iberian), ka ne? Me volunte
> > > partoprenus.
> > >
> > > Kordiale,
>=
 > >
> > > Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo
> > >
> > > 2013/11/17 Partaka 
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hola, Goncalo! Se me juste memoras, e=
nretigesis adminime tri
> > PDF-dokumenti
> > > > riproduktanta tri diferan=
ta numeri dil olima revuo *Ad-avane*, ma me
> > > > sucesis trovar nur un e=
k oli (yaro 1932). Yen la ligilo:
> > > > http://kanaria1973.ido.li/idolibr=
erio/adavane051932.pdf
> > > > Forsan, l'amiko Adrian Pastrana, qua posedis=
 ta jurnali, povus dicar
> > ulo
> > > > plusa.
> > > > Altra-latere, segun=
 semblo. existis Portugalan Idisti ne nur dum la 30a
> > > > yari, ma anke =
dum l'unesma Ido-yari, nam se ne, on ne povabus
> > diskursar per
> > > > I=
do en Portugal, adminime kun Couturat, qua mortabis en 1914.
> > > > Maxim =
probable, se tu revizos atencoze anciena numeri di PROGRESO,
> > quin tu
> =
> > > certe posedas, tu deskovros Portugalan Idisti lora. Bona fortuno!
> >=
 > > (Partaka)
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > > > =
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> > > >
> > > > El Domingo=
 17 de noviembre de 2013 1:05, Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo Neves 
> > > >=
 escribi=C3=83=C2=B3:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Kara Par-taka,
> > > >
> > > > Da=
nko pro tua informo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en mea lando.
> > Me=

> > > > joyas. Tamen la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsultebla e=
n mea
> > > > ermiteyo...
> > > >
> > > > Kordiale,
> > > >
> > > > Gon=C3=
=83=C2=A7alo
> > > >
> > > > 2013/11/16 Partaka 
> >
> > >=
 >
> > > > >
> > > > >Kara Goncalo:
> > > > >
> > > > >Meajudike, diskurso =
per Ido povas signifikar nulo altra
> > > > >kam diskurso en Ido; on diskur=
sis en/per la linguo Ido.
> > > > >
> > > > >Pri la posibla existo di olima=
 Idisti en tua lando, Portugal,
> > > > >forsan oportus, ke tu povez konsul=
tar la olima revuo *Ad-avane*,
> > > > >qua publikigesis dal Hispana Ido-So=
cieto dum la 20a e 30a yari
> > > > >(kelka numeri interne dil jurnalo *Acc=
i=C3=83=C2=B3n Cultural*). Ibe aludesas
> > > > >la posibla kreo dil *Feder=
aci=C3=83=C2=B3n Idista Ib=C3=83=C2=A9rica* por probar rajuntar
> >
> > > >=
 >Idisti di Hispania e Portugal. Do, segun semblo, olim existis Idisti
> > =
> > >en Portugal, adminime dum la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua texto.
>=
 > > > >
> > > > >Standez bone, amiko!
> > > > >
> > > > >(Generalo Ido von=
 Partaka)
> > > > >
> > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> =
> > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> > > > >
> > > > >=
El Mi=C3=83=C2=A9rcoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@" <
> > > =
> gneves64@> escribi=C3=83=C2=B3:
> >
> > > > >
> > > > >En la protokolo pr=
i la Internaciona Ido-Konfero en Lauenburg, Germania
> > > > (julio 1931) m=
e lektis ke la famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich Peus naracis
> > pri
> > > > "tr=
avivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, pri diskursi per Ido
> > en
>=
 > > > Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).
> > > > >
> > > =
> >Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en
> > Portug=
al?
> > > > Til nun me deskovris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en Port=
ugal,
> > til ke
> > > > me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.
> > > > >
> =
> > > >Me anke ne bone intelektas quo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en',
=
> > nek
> > > > 'pri') Ido...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>=
 > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>




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Danko pro la plusa ligili!


2013/11/27 Adrian Pastrana (Felix Gomez) 

>
>
> Kara amiki:
>
> La altra tri arkivi dil a=
nciena Adavane trovesas che:
>
> http://idotenerife.googlepages.com/adavane=
041936.pdf
>
> http://idotenerife.googlepages.com/adavane011936.pdf
>
> htt=
p://idotenerife.googlepages.com/adavane041929.pdf
>
> Pri la ISH, regretind=
e ol ne ja existas.
>
> Amikale!
> Adri=C3=A1n Pastrana
>
> --- In idolisto=
@yahoogroups.com, Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo Neves  wrote:
> >
> > Ka=
ra Adri=C3=83=C2=A1n,
>
> >
> > Kordiala danko pro omna ligili. Me balde st=
udios la tota materiaro.
> >
> > Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo
> >
> >
> > 2013/11/26 =
Adrian Pastrana (Felix Gomez) 
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >=
 Kara Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo e Partaka, voluntez lektar ca mesajo che idoespany=
ol:
>
> > >
> > > http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/idoespanyol/message/5643=

> > >
> > > Probable me havas la arkivi dil anciena Adavane (me ne savas u=
be...),
> > > intertempe voluntez enirar:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://web.ar=
chive.org/web/20080512203506/http://es.geocities.com/krayono/adavane.html
>=
 > >
> > > Tale vu povos lektar omna skanita numeri ecepte tri. Me esperas =
trovor
> ta
> > > tri, me serchos li.
> > >
> > > Ne obliviez la unesma His=
pana Ido-revuo: Laboro qua me kompris a Dana
> > > Universitato:
> > >
> > =
> http://www.geocities.ws/kanaria1973/laboro.html
> > >
> > > Kordiale
> > =
>
> > > Adri=C3=83=C2=A1n Pastrana (F=C3=83=C2=A9lix G=C3=83=C2=B3mez)
>
> =
> >
> > >
> > > --- In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, Gon=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=
=A7alo Neves  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kara Partaka,
> > > >
> > >=
 > Kordiala danko pro la ligilo. Me jus parlektis kun aparta juo ica
> nume=
ro
> > > > dil olima Ad-avane. Lektinte ol, me tote ne dubitas ke lore exis=
tis
> > > Idisti
> > > > anke en Portugal, quankam, segun quante me memoras=
, me trovis nula
> traco
> > > > pri Ido-movado en Portugal kande, kelka ya=
ri ante nun, me parlektis
> omna
> > > > numeri di Progreso publikigita de =
pos 1931 (yaro en qua la revuo
> rinaskis
> > > > pos la militala interrupt=
o).
> > > >
> > > > Se Adri=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=A1n Pastrana ankore lektas=
 la mesaji di ca listo, me pregas
> lu
>
> > >
> > > > informar me pri plus=
a numeri dil olima Ad-avane.
> > > >
> > > > Me kaptas la okaziono por ques=
tionar: kad ISH (Ido-Societo Hispana)
> > > ankore
> > > > existas? Forsan =
on povus ja de nun komencar ponderar l'eventuala
> fondo di
> > > > ISI (Ib=
erian Societo Idista od Ido-Societo Iberian), ka ne? Me
> volunte
> > > > p=
artoprenus.
> > > >
> > > > Kordiale,
> > > >
> > > > Gon=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=
=C2=A7alo
> > > >
> > > > 2013/11/17 Partaka 
>
> > >
> > =
> >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hola, Goncalo! Se me juste memoras, enret=
igesis adminime tri
> > > PDF-dokumenti
> > > > > riproduktanta tri diferan=
ta numeri dil olima revuo *Ad-avane*, ma
> me
> > > > > sucesis trovar nur =
un ek oli (yaro 1932). Yen la ligilo:
> > > > > http://kanaria1973.ido.li/i=
dolibrerio/adavane051932.pdf
> > > > > Forsan, l'amiko Adrian Pastrana, qua=
 posedis ta jurnali, povus
> dicar
> > > ulo
> > > > > plusa.
> > > > > Alt=
ra-latere, segun semblo. existis Portugalan Idisti ne nur dum
> la 30a
> > =
> > > yari, ma anke dum l'unesma Ido-yari, nam se ne, on ne povabus
> > > d=
iskursar per
> > > > > Ido en Portugal, adminime kun Couturat, qua mortabis=
 en 1914.
> > > > > Maxim probable, se tu revizos atencoze anciena numeri d=
i PROGRESO,
> > > quin tu
> > > > > certe posedas, tu deskovros Portugalan =
Idisti lora. Bona fortuno!
> > > > > (Partaka)
> > > > > http://groups.yaho=
o.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatala=
Occitan -
> > > > >
> > > > > El Domingo 17 de noviembre de 2013 1:05, Gon=
=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=A7alo Neves
> 
> > > > > escribi=C3=83=C6=
=92=C3=82=C2=B3:
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kara Par-taka,
> > > > >
> > >=
 > > Danko pro tua informo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en mea
> land=
o.
> > > Me
> > > > > joyas. Tamen la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas ne=
konsultebla
> en mea
> > > > > ermiteyo...
> > > > >
> > > > > Kordiale,
> =
> > > >
> > > > > Gon=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=A7alo
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/1=
1/16 Partaka 
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Kar=
a Goncalo:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Meajudike, diskurso per Ido povas signifi=
kar nulo altra
> > > > > >kam diskurso en Ido; on diskursis en/per la lingu=
o Ido.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Pri la posibla existo di olima Idisti en tua =
lando, Portugal,
> > > > > >forsan oportus, ke tu povez konsultar la olima =
revuo *Ad-avane*,
> > > > > >qua publikigesis dal Hispana Ido-Societo dum l=
a 20a e 30a yari
> > > > > >(kelka numeri interne dil jurnalo *Acci=C3=83=
=C6=92=C3=82=C2=B3n Cultural*). Ibe
> aludesas
> > > > > >la posibla kreo d=
il *Federaci=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=B3n Idista Ib=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=A9rica=
* por probar
> rajuntar
>
> > >
> > > > > >Idisti di Hispania e Portugal. D=
o, segun semblo, olim existis
> Idisti
> > > > > >en Portugal, adminime dum=
 la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua
> texto.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Stande=
z bone, amiko!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >(Generalo Ido von Partaka)
> > > > > =
>
> > > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > > > > >http://=
groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >El Mi=C3=
=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=A9rcoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@" <
> =
> > > > gneves64@> escribi=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=B3:
>
> > >
> > > > > >
> >=
 > > > >En la protokolo pri la Internaciona Ido-Konfero en Lauenburg,
> Ger=
mania
> > > > > (julio 1931) me lektis ke la famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich Pe=
us
> naracis
> > > pri
> > > > > "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed O=
swald, pri diskursi per
> Ido
> > > en
> > > > > Francia e Portugal" (La mu=
evi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Ka nia Germana samideani s=
avas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en
> > > Portugal?
> > > > > Til nun me de=
skovris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en
> Portugal,
> > > til ke
> > =
> > > me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Me anke =
ne bone intelektas quo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek
> 'en',
> > > nek
> >=
 > > > 'pri') Ido...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
=
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

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Danko pro la plusa ligili!


2013/11/27 Adrian Pastrana (Felix Gomez=
) <conocimientopleno@hotmail.com>

















=C2=A0



=

  



    

      
      
      
Kara amiki:



La altra t=
ri arkivi dil anciena Adavane trovesas che:



http://idotene=
rife.googlepages.com/adavane041936.pdf



http://idotener=
ife.googlepages.com/adavane011936.pdf



http://idoteneri=
fe.googlepages.com/adavane041929.pdf



Pri la ISH, regretinde ol=
 ne ja existas.



Amikale!

Adri=C3=A1n Pastrana 



--- In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo Neves  wrote:

>

> Kara Adri=C3=83=C2=A1n,


> 

> Kordiala danko pro omna ligili. Me balde studio=
s la tota materiaro.

> 

> Gon=C3=83=C2=A7alo

> <=
br>
> 

> 2013/11/26 Adrian Pastrana (Felix Gomez) 

> 

> >

> >

> > Kara Gon=
=C3=83=C2=A7alo e Partaka, voluntez lektar ca mesajo che idoespanyol:


> >

> > http://es.groups.yaho=
o.com/group/idoespanyol/message/5643

> >

> > Probab=
le me havas la arkivi dil anciena Adavane (me ne savas ube...),

> &g=
t; intertempe voluntez enirar:

> >

> >

> > http://web.archive.org/web/20080512=
203506/http://es.geocities.com/krayono/adavane.html

> >

&=
gt; > Tale vu povos lektar omna skanita numeri ecepte tri. Me esperas tr=
ovor ta

> > tri, me serchos li.

> >

> > Ne ob=
liviez la unesma Hispana Ido-revuo: Laboro qua me kompris a Dana

> &=
gt; Universitato:

> >

> > http://www.geocities.ws/ka=
naria1973/laboro.html

> >

> > Kordiale

> >=
;

> > Adri=C3=83=C2=A1n Pastrana (F=C3=83=C2=A9lix G=C3=83=
=C2=B3mez)


> >

> >

> > --- =
In idolisto@y=
ahoogroups.com, Gon=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=A7alo Neves  =
wrote:

> > >

> > > Kara Partaka,

> > &g=
t;

> > > Kordiala danko pro la ligilo. Me jus parlektis kun ap=
arta juo ica numero

> > > dil olima Ad-avane. Lektinte ol, me =
tote ne dubitas ke lore existis

> > Idisti

> > > ank=
e en Portugal, quankam, segun quante me memoras, me trovis nula traco

&=
gt; > > pri Ido-movado en Portugal kande, kelka yari ante nun, me par=
lektis omna

> > > numeri di Progreso publikigita de pos 1931 (=
yaro en qua la revuo rinaskis

> > > pos la militala interrupto=
).

> > >

> > > Se Adri=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=
=A1n Pastrana ankore lektas la mesaji di ca listo, me pregas lu


> >

> > > informar me pri plusa numeri dil =
olima Ad-avane.

> > >

> > > Me kaptas la okaziono=
 por questionar: kad ISH (Ido-Societo Hispana)

> > ankore

>=
; > > existas? Forsan on povus ja de nun komencar ponderar l'even=
tuala fondo di

> > > ISI (Iberian Societo Idista od Ido-Societ=
o Iberian), ka ne? Me volunte

> > > partoprenus.

> >=
 >

> > > Kordiale,

> > >

> > &=
gt; Gon=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=A7alo

> > >

> > > 20=
13/11/17 Partaka 


> >
> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> &=
gt; > > Hola, Goncalo! Se me juste memoras, enretigesis adminime tri<=
br>
> > PDF-dokumenti

> > > > riproduktanta tri difer=
anta numeri dil olima revuo *Ad-avane*, ma me

> > > > suces=
is trovar nur un ek oli (yaro 1932). Yen la ligilo:

> > > >=
 http://kanaria1973.ido.li/idolibrerio/adavane051932.pdf
=

> > > > Forsan, l'amiko Adrian Pastrana, qua posedis ta ju=
rnali, povus dicar

> > ulo

> > > > plusa.

>=
; > > > Altra-latere, segun semblo. existis Portugalan Idisti ne n=
ur dum la 30a

> > > > yari, ma anke dum l'unesma Ido-ya=
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> > diskursar per

> > >=
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; > > > Maxim probable, se tu revizos atencoze anciena numeri di P=
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> > quin tu

> > > > certe posedas, tu de=
skovros Portugalan Idisti lora. Bona fortuno!

> > > > (Part=
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> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan=
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> > > >

> > > > El Domingo 17 de n=
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> > > > escribi=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=B3:


> >

> > > >

> > > > Kara Par-t=
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> > > >

> > > > Danko pro tua informo.=
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> > Me

> =
> > > joyas. Tamen la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsult=
ebla en mea

> > > > ermiteyo...

> > > >
=

> > > > Kordiale,

> > > >

> > =
> > Gon=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=A7alo

> > > >

> &=
gt; > > 2013/11/16 Partaka 
<=
br>
> >

> > > >

> > > > >

>=
 > > > >Kara Goncalo:

> > > > >

> >=
; > > >Meajudike, diskurso per Ido povas signifikar nulo altra
=

> > > > >kam diskurso en Ido; on diskursis en/per la linguo=
 Ido.

> > > > >

> > > > >Pri la posib=
la existo di olima Idisti en tua lando, Portugal,

> > > > &=
gt;forsan oportus, ke tu povez konsultar la olima revuo *Ad-avane*,

>=
; > > > >qua publikigesis dal Hispana Ido-Societo dum la 20a e =
30a yari

> > > > >(kelka numeri interne dil jurnal=
o *Acci=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=B3n Cultural*). Ibe aludesas

> > >=
; > >la posibla kreo dil *Federaci=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=B3n Idista Ib=
=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=A9rica* por probar rajuntar


>=
; >

> > > > >Idisti di Hispania e Portugal. Do, segun=
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> > > > >en Portugal, admin=
ime dum la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua texto.

> > > > =
>

> > > > >Standez bone, amiko!

> > > &g=
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> > > > >(Generalo Ido von Partaka)

> >=
; > > >

> > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pos=
ta_Mundi -

> > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/=
IdoCatalaOccitan -

> > > > >

> > >=
; > >El Mi=C3=83=C6=92=C3=82=C2=A9rcoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:1=
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> >

> > >=
; > >

> > > > >En la protokolo pri la Internaciona=
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> > > > (julio 1931) me=
 lektis ke la famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich Peus naracis

> > pri
> > > > "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed Oswald,=
 pri diskursi per Ido

> > en

> > > > Francia e Po=
rtugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).

> > > > >
> > > > >Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskur=
si per Ido en

> > Portugal?

> > > > Til nun me de=
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> > til k=
e

> > > > me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.

> &g=
t; > > >

> > > > >Me anke ne bone intelektas qu=
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> > nek

> &=
gt; > > 'pri') Ido...

> > > > >

> &=
gt; > > >

> > > >

> > > >

>=
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> > > >

> > >

> >
> >  

> >

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [idolisto] Re: Peus en Portugal
Date: 	Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:48:14 +0000
From: 	Gonçalo Neves 
Reply-To: 	idolisto@yahoogroups.com
To: 	Idolisto 



Kara Adrián,

Kordiala danko pro omna ligili. Me balde studios la tota materiaro.

Gonçalo


2013/11/26 Adrian Pastrana (Felix Gomez) 

>
>
> Kara Gonçalo e Partaka, voluntez lektar ca mesajo che idoespanyol:
>
> http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/idoespanyol/message/5643
>
> Probable me havas la arkivi dil anciena Adavane (me ne savas ube...),
> intertempe voluntez enirar:
>
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20080512203506/http://es.geocities.com/krayono/adavane.html
>
> Tale vu povos lektar omna skanita numeri ecepte tri. Me esperas trovor ta
> tri, me serchos li.
>
> Ne obliviez la unesma Hispana Ido-revuo: Laboro qua me kompris a Dana
> Universitato:
>
> http://www.geocities.ws/kanaria1973/laboro.html
>
> Kordiale
>
> Adrián Pastrana (Félix Gómez)
>
>
> --- In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, Gonçalo Neves  wrote:
> >
> > Kara Partaka,
> >
> > Kordiala danko pro la ligilo. Me jus parlektis kun aparta juo ica numero
> > dil olima Ad-avane. Lektinte ol, me tote ne dubitas ke lore existis
> Idisti
> > anke en Portugal, quankam, segun quante me memoras, me trovis nula traco
> > pri Ido-movado en Portugal kande, kelka yari ante nun, me parlektis omna
> > numeri di Progreso publikigita de pos 1931 (yaro en qua la revuo rinaskis
> > pos la militala interrupto).
> >
> > Se Adrián Pastrana ankore lektas la mesaji di ca listo, me pregas lu
>
> > informar me pri plusa numeri dil olima Ad-avane.
> >
> > Me kaptas la okaziono por questionar: kad ISH (Ido-Societo Hispana)
> ankore
> > existas? Forsan on povus ja de nun komencar ponderar l'eventuala fondo di
> > ISI (Iberian Societo Idista od Ido-Societo Iberian), ka ne? Me volunte
> > partoprenus.
> >
> > Kordiale,
> >
> > Gonçalo
> >
> > 2013/11/17 Partaka 
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hola, Goncalo! Se me juste memoras, enretigesis adminime tri
> PDF-dokumenti
> > > riproduktanta tri diferanta numeri dil olima revuo *Ad-avane*, ma me
> > > sucesis trovar nur un ek oli (yaro 1932). Yen la ligilo:
> > > http://kanaria1973.ido.li/idolibrerio/adavane051932.pdf
> > > Forsan, l'amiko Adrian Pastrana, qua posedis ta jurnali, povus dicar
> ulo
> > > plusa.
> > > Altra-latere, segun semblo. existis Portugalan Idisti ne nur dum la 30a
> > > yari, ma anke dum l'unesma Ido-yari, nam se ne, on ne povabus
> diskursar per
> > > Ido en Portugal, adminime kun Couturat, qua mortabis en 1914.
> > > Maxim probable, se tu revizos atencoze anciena numeri di PROGRESO,
> quin tu
> > > certe posedas, tu deskovros Portugalan Idisti lora. Bona fortuno!
> > > (Partaka)
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> > >
> > > El Domingo 17 de noviembre de 2013 1:05, Gonçalo Neves 
> > > escribió:
>
> > >
> > > Kara Par-taka,
> > >
> > > Danko pro tua informo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en mea lando.
> Me
> > > joyas. Tamen la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsultebla en mea
> > > ermiteyo...
> > >
> > > Kordiale,
> > >
> > > Gonçalo
> > >
> > > 2013/11/16 Partaka 
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Kara Goncalo:
> > > >
> > > >Meajudike, diskurso per Ido povas signifikar nulo altra
> > > >kam diskurso en Ido; on diskursis en/per la linguo Ido.
> > > >
> > > >Pri la posibla existo di olima Idisti en tua lando, Portugal,
> > > >forsan oportus, ke tu povez konsultar la olima revuo *Ad-avane*,
> > > >qua publikigesis dal Hispana Ido-Societo dum la 20a e 30a yari
> > > >(kelka numeri interne dil jurnalo *Acción Cultural*). Ibe aludesas
> > > >la posibla kreo dil *Federación Idista Ibérica* por probar rajuntar
>
> > > >Idisti di Hispania e Portugal. Do, segun semblo, olim existis Idisti
> > > >en Portugal, adminime dum la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua texto.
> > > >
> > > >Standez bone, amiko!
> > > >
> > > >(Generalo Ido von Partaka)
> > > >
> > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> > > >
> > > >El Miércoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@..." <
> > > gneves64@...> escribió:
>
> > > >
> > > >En la protokolo pri la Internaciona Ido-Konfero en Lauenburg, Germania
> > > (julio 1931) me lektis ke la famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich Peus naracis
> pri
> > > "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, pri diskursi per Ido
> en
> > > Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).
> > > >
> > > >Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en
> Portugal?
> > > Til nun me deskovris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en Portugal,
> til ke
> > > me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.
> > > >
> > > >Me anke ne bone intelektas quo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en',
> nek
> > > 'pri') Ido...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>




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            Subject:
            
            Re: [idolisto] Re: Peus en Portugal
          

          

            Date: 
            Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:48:14 +0000
          

          

            From: 
            Gonçalo Neves 
          

          

            Reply-To:
            
            idolisto@yahoogroups.com
          

          

            To: 
            Idolisto 
          

        
      

      

      

      
Kara Adrián,

Kordiala danko pro omna ligili. Me balde studios la tota materiaro.

Gonçalo


2013/11/26 Adrian Pastrana (Felix Gomez) 

>
>
> Kara Gonçalo e Partaka, voluntez lektar ca mesajo che idoespanyol:
>
> http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/idoespanyol/message/5643
>
> Probable me havas la arkivi dil anciena Adavane (me ne savas ube...),
> intertempe voluntez enirar:
>
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20080512203506/http://es.geocities.com/krayono/adavane.html
>
> Tale vu povos lektar omna skanita numeri ecepte tri. Me esperas trovor ta
> tri, me serchos li.
>
> Ne obliviez la unesma Hispana Ido-revuo: Laboro qua me kompris a Dana
> Universitato:
>
> http://www.geocities.ws/kanaria1973/laboro.html
>
> Kordiale
>
> Adrián Pastrana (Félix Gómez)
>
>
> --- In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, Gonçalo Neves  wrote:
> >
> > Kara Partaka,
> >
> > Kordiala danko pro la ligilo. Me jus parlektis kun aparta juo ica numero
> > dil olima Ad-avane. Lektinte ol, me tote ne dubitas ke lore existis
> Idisti
> > anke en Portugal, quankam, segun quante me memoras, me trovis nula traco
> > pri Ido-movado en Portugal kande, kelka yari ante nun, me parlektis omna
> > numeri di Progreso publikigita de pos 1931 (yaro en qua la revuo rinaskis
> > pos la militala interrupto).
> >
> > Se Adrián Pastrana ankore lektas la mesaji di ca listo, me pregas lu
>
> > informar me pri plusa numeri dil olima Ad-avane.
> >
> > Me kaptas la okaziono por questionar: kad ISH (Ido-Societo Hispana)
> ankore
> > existas? Forsan on povus ja de nun komencar ponderar l'eventuala fondo di
> > ISI (Iberian Societo Idista od Ido-Societo Iberian), ka ne? Me volunte
> > partoprenus.
> >
> > Kordiale,
> >
> > Gonçalo
> >
> > 2013/11/17 Partaka 
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hola, Goncalo! Se me juste memoras, enretigesis adminime tri
> PDF-dokumenti
> > > riproduktanta tri diferanta numeri dil olima revuo *Ad-avane*, ma me
> > > sucesis trovar nur un ek oli (yaro 1932). Yen la ligilo:
> > > http://kanaria1973.ido.li/idolibrerio/adavane051932.pdf
> > > Forsan, l'amiko Adrian Pastrana, qua posedis ta jurnali, povus dicar
> ulo
> > > plusa.
> > > Altra-latere, segun semblo. existis Portugalan Idisti ne nur dum la 30a
> > > yari, ma anke dum l'unesma Ido-yari, nam se ne, on ne povabus
> diskursar per
> > > Ido en Portugal, adminime kun Couturat, qua mortabis en 1914.
> > > Maxim probable, se tu revizos atencoze anciena numeri di PROGRESO,
> quin tu
> > > certe posedas, tu deskovros Portugalan Idisti lora. Bona fortuno!
> > > (Partaka)
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> > >
> > > El Domingo 17 de noviembre de 2013 1:05, Gonçalo Neves 
> > > escribió:
>
> > >
> > > Kara Par-taka,
> > >
> > > Danko pro tua informo. Semblas do ke me havas prekursori en mea lando.
> Me
> > > joyas. Tamen la olima revuo quan tu mencionas esas nekonsultebla en mea
> > > ermiteyo...
> > >
> > > Kordiale,
> > >
> > > Gonçalo
> > >
> > > 2013/11/16 Partaka 
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Kara Goncalo:
> > > >
> > > >Meajudike, diskurso per Ido povas signifikar nulo altra
> > > >kam diskurso en Ido; on diskursis en/per la linguo Ido.
> > > >
> > > >Pri la posibla existo di olima Idisti en tua lando, Portugal,
> > > >forsan oportus, ke tu povez konsultar la olima revuo *Ad-avane*,
> > > >qua publikigesis dal Hispana Ido-Societo dum la 20a e 30a yari
> > > >(kelka numeri interne dil jurnalo *Acción Cultural*). Ibe aludesas
> > > >la posibla kreo dil *Federación Idista Ibérica* por probar rajuntar
>
> > > >Idisti di Hispania e Portugal. Do, segun semblo, olim existis Idisti
> > > >en Portugal, adminime dum la 30a yari, qui mencionesas en tua texto.
> > > >
> > > >Standez bone, amiko!
> > > >
> > > >(Generalo Ido von Partaka)
> > > >
> > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
> > > >
> > > >El Miércoles 13 de noviembre de 2013 12:19, "gneves64@..." <
> > > gneves64@...> escribió:
>
> > > >
> > > >En la protokolo pri la Internaciona Ido-Konfero en Lauenburg, Germania
> > > (julio 1931) me lektis ke la famoza Ido-pioniro Heinrich Peus naracis
> pri
> > > "travivaji kun Couturat, de Beaufront ed Oswald, pri diskursi per Ido
> en
> > > Francia e Portugal" (La muevi, 1931, nro 5, p. 68).
> > > >
> > > >Ka nia Germana samideani savas ulo pri ta diskursi per Ido en
> Portugal?
> > > Til nun me deskovris nula traco pri la existo di idisti en Portugal,
> til ke
> > > me rezolvis lernar la linguo en 1997.
> > > >
> > > >Me anke ne bone intelektas quo povus esar diskurso _per_ (nek 'en',
> nek
> > > 'pri') Ido...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>



      

    

    

  


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From: "Robert C." 
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Filmi kun subtexti en Ido?
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Tamen, ke la metodo funcionas esas videbla per altra filmi ibe.
Semblas ke nulo preventas olua uzo por Ido quale anke por altra lingui.
Yen gratuita donaco!


On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:51:31 +0000, Gonçalo Neves wrote: 
Anke me ne povis obtenar irga subtexto...



2013/11/26 Robert C. 
 
  
Kad on ja mencionis hike posibleso pozar filmi kun subtexti (exemple en Ido) en la tereno di servo qua, ye bazala nivelo (probable adequata), esas gratuita?

 La servo aludita nomesas "dotsub", ed on povas lektar pri ol hike: http://dotsub.com

 Semblas ke on darfas ne nur prizentar sua filmi kun subtituli, ma anke ofrar tradukuri dil subtituli di filmi ja ofrita da altri. Un problemo: ne esas evidenta ke instrucioni esas trovebla ecepte en la Angla.

 Por Interlingua esas 20 filmi videbla o preparata. Exemple: http://dotsub.com/view/75f8d3f1-0434-481f-b4e5-5cbd3fa2c5b8
 Por Interlingue (Occidental) esas 5 filmi. Por Esperanto esas 20 filmi.

 La posiblesi por Ido ibe semblas esar bona, ma esas til nun nur un filmo kun texti en Ido: http://dotsub.com/view/language/both/ido
 Semblas ke on povas selektar linguo ye la basa sinistra parto dil filmo-fenestro. Pos la vorto "Indonesian" (Indoneziana) esis "100%", e pos la vorto "Ido" esas "(50%)". Tamen, por ica filmo me ne povis obtenar irga subtexti. Forsan altru sucesos.

 Robert C.




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Kontree ad Ido, Esperanto havas meceni, exemple la japoniana 
esperantista Etsuo Miyoshi, fabrikanto de ganti. Lu, handikapita pro 
poliomielito, inventis specala valizo uzebla kom kano por handikapato e 
donas grandparto di la pekunio di olua patento por helpar financale 
Esperanto.
Omnayare lu kompras kompleta pagini por reklamar pri Esperanto en la 
franca jurnalo "Le Monde".
Hodie Esperanto havas anke kom meceno la Europana Komisitaro!
Danke  Maja Tis(ljar (filiino di Zlatko TIS(LJAR sekretario di EEU e di 
la Kroatia Esperanto-Junulara Asocio ), l' EU donis per olua europana 
programo "Lifelong learning"  (Lernado alonge la vivo) dotizita de 7 
miliardi d'Euro por la periodo 2007-2013,  subvenciono de 400 000 EUR a 
la Europa Esperanto-Unio (EEU)  por financar 75% di projeto LINGVO.INFO 
kadre la sub-programo Grundtvig (permanenta edukado por adulti) . La 
skopo di projeto LINGVO.INFO esas riaktualigar la olda interreta sito 
http://old.lingvo.info (videz 
http://www.europo.eu/fr/clanok/61-projekto-de-eeu-lingvo-info-startis) 
per la nova sito http://lingvo.info 
Ma sub l'aspekto di multalinguismo la projeto LINGVO.INFO esas evidente 
nur vetrino por Esperanto!

Sendube havar kelka europana deputati kom la poloniana Ma?gorzata 
Handzlik qua sustenas Esperanto, helpas la relati kun la Europana 
Komisitaro!

Probable nova europana programo simila eventos balde por la periodo 
2015-2021. Lore forsan ni povos probar ca-foye partoprenar a projeto 
subvencionata per ca futura programo?

Altra exemplo di la dinamismo dil esperantisti esas l'adopto dil Eo da 
Google en 2009.

E balde en 2014 eventos la elekti por la nova europana Parlamento e 
forsan la esperantista partiso E.D.E. (Europo Demokratio Esperanto 
http://e-d-e.org) sucesos itere kandidatesar por la nexta europana 
elekti 2014. Evidente ol havas nula chanco havar un deputato EDE ma la 
skopo esas nur reklamar pri Esperanto per televiziono.

Fortunoze segun me l'Europana Komisitaro refuzis en 2012 europana inicio 
civitana propozita da EEU por oficaligar l'europana himno en Eo pro 
motivo ke nula europana lando promocas Eo kom parto di lia kulturala 
heredajo e ke Eo ne povas konsideresar kom parto di komuna heredajo 
kulturala ( http://ec.europa.eu/citizens-initiative/public/documents/589 ).

Ne-kontesteble la esperantisti havas forci e pekunio por ankor progresar 
e mem se me kredas ke U.E. bezonas komuna linguo, kondiciono necesa por 
demokratio,  me ne povas kredar ke uldie E.U. povez selektar Eo kom 
komuna linguo nek desfortune Ido en olua nuna stando.

Longe ante nun, Fran�ois Cavanna, franca literaturisto e desegnisto 
humurala dicis " Bando de idioti, vu ne volas Esperanto, lore vu havos 
Angla! ". Forsan il esis justa, o restas a ni pruvar ke il eroris. Ka ne?

Grandega laboro! Ma nur perdesas la kombati quin ni ne facas. Ka ne?

Kombatanta saluti.
Lo�c Landais





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        Kontree ad Ido, Esperanto havas meceni, exemple la
          japoniana esperantista Etsuo Miyoshi, fabrikanto de ganti. Lu,
          handikapita pro poliomielito, inventis specala valizo uzebla
          kom kano por handikapato e donas grandparto di la pekunio di
          olua patento por helpar financale Esperanto. 

          Omnayare lu kompras kompleta pagini por reklamar pri Esperanto
          en la franca jurnalo "Le Monde". 

          Hodie Esperanto havas anke kom meceno la Europana Komisitaro!
          

          Danke  Maja Tišljar (filiino di Zlatko TIŠLJAR sekretario di
          EEU e di la Kroatia Esperanto-Junulara Asocio ), l' EU donis
          per olua europana programo "Lifelong learning"  (Lernado
          alonge la vivo) dotizita de 7 miliardi d'Euro por la periodo
          2007-2013,  subvenciono de 400 000 € a la Europa
          Esperanto-Unio (EEU)  por financar 75% di projeto LINGVO.INFO
          kadre la sub-programo Grundtvig (permanenta edukado por
          adulti) . La skopo di projeto LINGVO.INFO esas riaktualigar la
          olda interreta sito  http://old.lingvo.info
          (videz http://www.europo.eu/fr/clanok/61-projekto-de-eeu-lingvo-info-startis)
          per la nova sito http://lingvo.info

          Ma sub l'aspekto di multalinguismo la projeto LINGVO.INFO esas
          evidente nur vetrino por Esperanto!

        

        Sendube havar kelka europana deputati kom la poloniana
          Małgorzata Handzlik qua sustenas Esperanto, helpas la relati
          kun la Europana Komisitaro!

          

          Probable nova europana programo simila eventos balde por la
          periodo 2015-2021. Lore forsan ni povos probar ca-foye
          partoprenar a projeto subvencionata per ca futura
          programo?

          

          Altra exemplo di la dinamismo dil esperantisti esas l'adopto
          dil Eo da Google en 2009.

          

          E balde en 2014 eventos la elekti por la nova europana
          Parlamento e forsan la esperantista partiso E.D.E. (Europo
          Demokratio Esperanto http://e-d-e.org) sucesos itere
          kandidatesar por la nexta europana elekti 2014. Evidente ol
          havas nula chanco havar un deputato EDE ma la skopo esas nur
          reklamar pri Esperanto per televiziono.

          

          Fortunoze segun me l'Europana Komisitaro refuzis en 2012
          europana inicio civitana propozita da EEU por oficaligar
          l'europana himno en Eo pro motivo ke nula europana lando
          promocas Eo kom parto di lia kulturala heredajo e ke Eo ne
          povas konsideresar kom parto di komuna heredajo kulturala ( http://ec.europa.eu/citizens-initiative/public/documents/589
          ).

          

          Ne-kontesteble la esperantisti havas forci e pekunio por ankor
          progresar e mem se me kredas ke U.E. bezonas komuna linguo,
          kondiciono necesa por demokratio,  me ne povas kredar ke uldie
          E.U. povez selektar Eo kom komuna linguo nek desfortune Ido en
          olua nuna stando. 

          

          Longe ante nun, François Cavanna, franca literaturisto e
          desegnisto humurala dicis " Bando de idioti, vu ne volas
          Esperanto, lore vu havos Angla! ". Forsan il esis justa, o
          restas a ni pruvar ke il eroris. Ka ne? 

          

          Grandega laboro! Ma nur perdesas la kombati quin ni ne facas.
          Ka ne?

          

          Kombatanta saluti.

          Loïc Landais

        

      

      

      

    

    

  


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Ma, qua esas plu bone kom komuna linguo por Europo, l'Angla od Esperanto?, =
me preferus Ido ma probable nek Esperanto nek Ido nek Interlingua esos komu=
na linguo, triste...
Adri=E1n Pastrana

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ndais  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kontree ad Ido, Esperanto h=
avas meceni, exemple la japoniana 
> esperantista Etsuo Miyoshi, fabrikanto=
 de ganti. Lu, handikapita pro 
> poliomielito, inventis specala valizo uze=
bla kom kano por handikapato e 
> donas grandparto di la pekunio di olua pa=
tento por helpar financale 
> Esperanto.
> Omnayare lu kompras kompleta pag=
ini por reklamar pri Esperanto en la 
> franca jurnalo "Le Monde".
> Hodie =
Esperanto havas anke kom meceno la Europana Komisitaro!
> Danke  Maja Tis(l=
jar (filiino di Zlatko TIS(LJAR sekretario di EEU e di 
> la Kroatia Espera=
nto-Junulara Asocio ), l' EU donis per olua europana 
> programo "Lifelong =
learning"  (Lernado alonge la vivo) dotizita de 7 
> miliardi d'Euro por la=
 periodo 2007-2013,  subvenciono de 400 000 EUR a 
> la Europa Esperanto-Un=
io (EEU)  por financar 75% di projeto LINGVO.INFO 
> kadre la sub-programo =
Grundtvig (permanenta edukado por adulti) . La 
> skopo di projeto LINGVO.I=
NFO esas riaktualigar la olda interreta sito 
> http://old.lingvo.info (vid=
ez 
> http://www.europo.eu/fr/clanok/61-projekto-de-eeu-lingvo-info-startis=
) 
> per la nova sito http://lingvo.info 
> Ma sub l'a=
spekto di multalinguismo la projeto LINGVO.INFO esas evidente 
> nur vetrin=
o por Esperanto!
> 
> Sendube havar kelka europana deputati kom la polonian=
a Ma?gorzata 
> Handzlik qua sustenas Esperanto, helpas la relati kun la Eu=
ropana 
> Komisitaro!
> 
> Probable nova europana programo simila eventos b=
alde por la periodo 
> 2015-2021. Lore forsan ni povos probar ca-foye parto=
prenar a projeto 
> subvencionata per ca futura programo?
> 
> Altra exempl=
o di la dinamismo dil esperantisti esas l'adopto dil Eo da 
> Google en 200=
9.
> 
> E balde en 2014 eventos la elekti por la nova europana Parlamento e=
 
> forsan la esperantista partiso E.D.E. (Europo Demokratio Esperanto 
> h=
ttp://e-d-e.org) sucesos itere kandidatesar por la nexta europana 
> elekti=
 2014. Evidente ol havas nula chanco havar un deputato EDE ma la 
> skopo e=
sas nur reklamar pri Esperanto per televiziono.
> 
> Fortunoze segun me l'E=
uropana Komisitaro refuzis en 2012 europana inicio 
> civitana propozita da=
 EEU por oficaligar l'europana himno en Eo pro 
> motivo ke nula europana l=
ando promocas Eo kom parto di lia kulturala 
> heredajo e ke Eo ne povas ko=
nsideresar kom parto di komuna heredajo 
> kulturala ( http://ec.europa.eu/=
citizens-initiative/public/documents/589 ).
> 
> Ne-kontesteble la esperant=
isti havas forci e pekunio por ankor progresar 
> e mem se me kredas ke U.E=
. bezonas komuna linguo, kondiciono necesa por 
> demokratio,  me ne povas =
kredar ke uldie E.U. povez selektar Eo kom 
> komuna linguo nek desfortune =
Ido en olua nuna stando.
> 
> Longe ante nun, Fran=E7ois Cavanna, franca li=
teraturisto e desegnisto 
> humurala dicis " Bando de idioti, vu ne volas E=
speranto, lore vu havos 
> Angla! ". Forsan il esis justa, o restas a ni pr=
uvar ke il eroris. Ka ne?
> 
> Grandega laboro! Ma nur perdesas la kombati =
quin ni ne facas. Ka ne?
> 
> Kombatanta saluti.
> Lo=EFc Landais
>




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Ye 30 novembro...

1718. Carl 12ma rejulo di Suedia mortis, dum kampanio ko=
ntre Norvegia. Il regnis depos 1698; de 1700, il partoprenis plura militara=
 kampanii. En 1716, pos ke Dania atakis Suedia, il invadis Norvegia, qua lo=
re esis posedajo di Dania. Il siejis kelka fortresi, sen konkluziva rezulta=
jo. En 1718, kun plu granda armeo, il duesmafoye invadis Norvegia. Dum siej=
o di fortreso proxim Fredrikshald, Carl ocidesis da projektilo; la invado p=
ose abandonesis. Duesma armeo, qua intencis siejar Trondheim, retretis ye i=
nformeso di la morto di Carl; dum la retreto cirkume duimo de la 10000 sold=
ati mortis en vintrala sturmo. To nomizesis "karolinernas d=F6dsmarsch" - l=
a morto-marcho di Carl.

1885. En Paris, la opero "Le Cid" da Jules Massene=
t, esis unesmafoye pleata. Jules Gr=E9vy, prezidanto di Francia, esis en la=
 audantaro. Olua fonto esis dramato di sama nomo da Pierre Corneille, unesm=
afoye vidita en 1637. "El Cid" esis Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar, Kastiliana nobel=
o e militarala duktanto en la 11ma yarcento. La opero da Massenet esis mult=
afoye pleata dum kelka yari, ma nuntempe ol esas konocata nur pro la baleto=
-muziko por orkestro, qua inkluzas dansii de diversa regioni di Hispania.

1=
936. La Kristala Palaco (Crystal Palace), grandega strukturo en London, des=
truktesis pro fairo. La edifico, de vitro-plaki e tenua koloni de gis-fero,=
 konstruktesis en Hyde-parko por la Granda Expozo di 1851; olua longeso esi=
s 564 m ed alteso esis 39 m. =A0Pos la expozo, ol esis ri-konstruktata en 1=
854 en altra parto di London. Dum la vespero di ca dio, mikra fairo deskovr=
esis, qua rapide extensis su; malgre la arivo di 89 fairo-vehili, la strukt=
uro esis destruktata pos kelka hori.

La atachita imajo esas fotografuro di=
 la Kristala Palaco destruktata pro fairo en 1936.=A0

Kordiale DGW
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0 novembro...

1718.=
 Carl 12ma rejulo di Suedia mortis, dum kampanio kontre Norvegia. Il regnis=
 depos 1698; de
 1700, il partoprenis plura militara kampanii. En 1716, pos=
 ke Dania atakis Suedia, il invadis Norvegia, qua lore esis posedajo di Dan=
ia. Il siejis kelka fortresi, sen konkluziva rezultajo. En 1718, kun plu gr=
anda armeo, il duesmafoye invadis Norvegia. Dum siejo di fortreso proxim Fr=
edrikshald, Carl ocidesis da projektilo; la invado pose abandonesis. Duesma=
 armeo, qua intencis siejar Trondheim, retretis ye informeso di la morto di=

 Carl; dum la retreto cirkume duimo de la 10000 soldati mortis en vintrala=
 sturmo. To nomizesis "karolinernas d=F6dsmarsch" - la morto-marcho di Carl=
.

=

1885. En Paris, la opero "Le Cid" da Jules Massenet, esis unesmafoye
=
 pleata. Jules Gr=E9vy, prezidanto di Francia, esis en la audantaro. Olua f=
onto esis dramato di sama nomo da Pierre Corneille, unesmafoye vidita en 16=
37. "El Cid" esis Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar, Kastiliana nobelo e militarala duk=
tanto en la 11ma yarcento. La opero da Massenet esis multafoye pleata dum k=
elka yari, ma nuntempe ol
 esas konocata nur pro la baleto-muziko por orkes=
tro, qua inkluzas dansi de diversa regioni di Hispania.

1936. La Kristala Palaco (Crystal Palace), grandega strukturo en =
London,
 destruktesis pro fairo. La edifico, de vitro-plaki e tenua koloni =
de gis-fero, konstruktesis en
 Hyde-parko por la Granda Expozo di 1851; olu=
a longeso esis 564 m ed alteso esis 39 m.  Pos la expozo, ol esis
 ri-=
konstruktata en 1854 en altra parto di London. Dum la vespero di ca dio, mi=
kra fairo deskovresis, qua rapide extensis su; malgre la arivo di 89 fairo-=
vehili, la strukturo esis destruktata pos kelka hori.

La atachita i=
majo esas fotografuro di la Kristala Palaco destruktata pro fairo en 1936.&=
nbsp;

Kordiale DGW

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (5)
 

 

 

 

 E ye l' morga dio matine, sen komunikir a mea familiani ed amiki mea projeto, me ekiris la domo di mea genitori, quale irg altra dio, ma tote vakua-posha, nam ibe, ube me voyajos, me advere bezonos nek mea pekunio, nek mea karto di identeso, nek mea klefi, quin me celis en loko sekura e kustumal exter la domo. Fakte, me ne savas pro quo, me prenis e portis kun me nur mea maxim neta naz-tuko linja. 
 

 Quankam me jus asertabas, ke me komunikis nulo a nulu, yen ke me ne povis evitar skribar ulo surpapere por ke mea familiani, adminime, saveskez ul-maniere pri mea projeto. E yen ke me skribis ico, ma per mea matro-linguo, en blanka paper-folio, qua restis sur la tablo dil manjo-chambro:   
 

 ***** Nulu kulpesez pri mea desaparo! Me travoyajis la tempo por atingar olta di Jesukristo e vivar apud ilu dum tri yari. Me vizas retrovenor adhike, kun vi, ma me ne savas ka me sucesos. Paco che vi omna! PTK ***** 
 

 Dum rilektar lo jus skribita, me subridis pro nur imaginar quon mea santa matro klamus ankor-foye pri me, lor lektar mea tala-speca paper-mesajo: "Extravaganto! Freneziiko!". 
 

 Kompreneble, me previdabis retrovenor adheme, admaxime, du hori plu tarde, kaze ke me ne sucesus ekirar mea vilajo survoye al urbo Jerusalem dil tempo di Jesu. E tal-kaze, me quik desaparigus mea stranja mesajo por ke nulu lektez ol. Ho, yes! Me ya esis parkonvinkita pri mea posibla suceso, pro ke me nule cesabis pensar, ke omno, absolute omno, posiblesas; tamen, me koakte devis konsiderar, ke se advere omno posiblesas, anke posiblesas faliar, ka ne? Do, kun fido ed espero, me luktus ya tilfine por mea revo, ma...
 

 E yes, lor marchadar ta-die vers mea fato, me esis plene koncianta pri omna mea aferi en Barcelona, qui restus vartanta mea balda retroveno, qua nule produktesus, kaze ke me sucesus relate mea gravega projeto. Ma me preferis ne troe pensar prie, nam to povus frenagar e limitizar mea enorma entuziasmo e mea konvinkeso. Folajo o ne, nulo impedus a me probar realigar ed experiencar mea revo, e maxim aparte lore, kande me tandem komprenabis, ke, mem se tre limitizita da ni ipsa, ni ja posedas ta povoza mashino, qua posibligus atingar marveloza skopo qual olta di me.   
 

 E tale, dum marchar e pensar, me arivis che mea departeyo.  
 

 

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Kar amiki,

pro ke me ne esis prezenta en ica forumi dum la recenta jorni e semani,
me volas komunikar a vi kauzo
Don Gasper de Hongkong esas en Berlin, i.a. anke mea gasto.
Lu partoprenis la konfero di GIL( Gesellschaft f�r Interlinguistik = 
Societo por Interlinguistiko).
Don anke gasto che la Idoamiki Berlin en la sindikala domo.
Kompreneble lu vizitis sua amiki ed anke me konoceskis lua amiki de Chinia.

Vivez amikeso
Eberhard


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Kara Partaka,

Me regretas ke me nun ne povas explikar detaloze la motivo d=
i mea
opiniono-chanjo. Tamen, tre koncize, me dicez ke esas preferinda ne c=
hanjar
la tilnuna kustumo skribar 'fairo' edc. Pri la plaso dil acento toni=
ka me
dicez ke, segun la reguli, ol esas pozenda sur la 'i' (fa-i-ro), ma s=
egun
komuna raciono ol esas pozinda sur la 'a' (fai-ro). Exemple, en sua tr=
iesma
poemlibro (La tri suni), Tiberio Madonna uzas la tre bonvenanta neolo=
gismo
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por indikar
la maxim konvenanta plaso dil acento". On atencez ke Tiberio sk=
ribis ne "la
obligala plaso" ma "la maxim konvenanta plaso". Tala toleremes=
o apartenas
al DNA di Ido ed esas aplaudinda.

Kande me riforteskos me fors=
an skribos plu detaloze.

Amikale,

Gon=C3=A7alo


2013/11/25 

>
>
> Kara Goncalo:
>
> Recente, tu asertis chanjir tua en-SI=
L-a opiniono pri *fayro" e simila
> vorti, quin tu defensabis kom oportuna.=
 Ka tu povas explikar, mem se nur
> koncize, pro quo e quale tu chanjis tal=
 opiniono? E lore: ka *fai-ro* o
> *fa-i-ro*? O kad omna du? Predanko.
>
> =
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Kara Partaka,

Me regretas ke=
 me nun ne povas explikar detaloze la motivo di mea opiniono-chanjo. Tamen,=
 tre koncize, me dicez ke esas preferinda ne chanjar la tilnuna kustumo skr=
ibar 'fairo' edc. Pri la plaso dil acento tonika me dicez ke, segun=
 la reguli, ol esas pozenda sur la 'i' (fa-i-ro), ma segun komuna r=
aciono ol esas pozinda sur la 'a' (fai-ro). Exemple, en sua triesma=
 poemlibro (La tri suni), Tiberio Madonna uzas la tre bonvenanta neologismo=
 'smailar' (ridetar), ed il adjuntis acentosigno a *sm=C3=A0ilas &q=
uot;nur por indikar la maxim konvenanta plaso dil acento". On atencez =
ke Tiberio skribis ne "la obligala plaso" ma "la maxim konve=
nanta plaso". Tala toleremeso=C2=A0apartenas al DNA di Ido ed esas apl=
audinda.



Kande me riforteskos me forsan skribos p=
lu detaloze.

Amikale,

Gon=
=C3=A7alo=C2=A0


2013/11/25  <qualevistandas@yahoo.es>

















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Kara Goncalo:=C2=A0
Recente,=
 tu asertis chanjir tua en-SIL-a opiniono pri *fayro" e simila vorti, =
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Kara samlinguani,

me nomesas Thomas e me naskis en la yaro 1959. Me vivas e laboras en Hameln
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Me havas la libro Ido por omni quo aparis en la yaro 1924 e multa helpili
de interreto.

Me esas ano de Ipernity:
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Kordiala saluti
Thomas

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Kara samlinguani,


me nomesas Thomas e me naskis en la yaro 1959. Me vivas e laboras en Hameln en Germania.


Me havas la libro Ido por omni quo aparis en la yaro 1924 e multa helpili de interreto.


Me esas ano de Ipernity:

http://www.ipernity.com/home/230201


Kordiala saluti

Thomas


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Dum ke nord-Germania preparas su por l' uragano Xavier, me preparas me por paneo di elektro. La rapida vento esos kauzo di eceso di elektro produktata per elektrifili vental en nord-Germania, ma la precipua loko di demando di elektro esas en sud-Germania. Tamen la sama ekologiisti, qui insistas por konstruktado di elektrifili vental e klozado di elektriferii nukleal, refuzas konstruktado di konduktili en central Germania, qui transportus l' elektro ecesa de nord-Germania a sud-Germania. Vicee, Germania uzas senpage konduktili Nederlandana e Belgiana en la westo e Poloniana e Chekiana en l' esto. Ma Nederlandani, Belgiani, Poloniani e Chekiani ne havas yuro votar pri Germaniana politiko energial.
 
 Mem en cirkonstanci normal, administreri di konduktili esforcante manovarar l' ecesa elektro ja havas granda trubli, quin li ne havis ante l' adveno di fola fonti di energio ri-novigebla. Pro to me ne expektas, ke li sucesos evitar paneo di elektro en cirkonstanci uraganal.
 
 Kun saluti pre-kaosal
Gabriel Svoboda



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Saluto Thomas,

me joyas ke tu esas hike, inter amiki di Ido.
De plura yari me lojas en Berlin, pos ke me finis mea laborvivo
en sukrofabrikerio en Antepomerania. Ka tu parolas anke bas-Germana 
(=Platt) ?
Posible, ke tu ultempe vizitos la grupo Idoamiki Berlin.
Volunte me invitas tu.

Amikala saluto
Eberhard



Von: Thomas Heberlein
Datum: 05.12.2013 10:33
>
>
> Kara samlinguani,
>
> me nomesas Thomas e me naskis en la yaro 1959. Me vivas e laboras en 
> Hameln en Germania.
>
> Me havas la libro Ido por omni quo aparis en la yaro 1924 e multa 
> helpili de interreto.
>
> Me esas ano de Ipernity:
> http://www.ipernity.com/home/230201
>
> Kordiala saluti
> Thomas
>

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Saluto Thomas,

      

      me joyas ke tu esas hike, inter amiki di Ido.

      De plura yari me lojas en Berlin, pos ke me finis mea laborvivo 

      en sukrofabrikerio en Antepomerania. Ka tu parolas anke
      bas-Germana (=Platt) ?

      Posible, ke tu ultempe vizitos la grupo Idoamiki Berlin.

      Volunte me invitas tu.

      

      Amikala saluto

      Eberhard

      

      

      

      Von: Thomas Heberlein 

      Datum: 05.12.2013 10:33

    

    

      
      Kara samlinguani,
      
me nomesas Thomas e me naskis en la yaro 1959. Me vivas e
        laboras en Hameln en Germania.

      
Me havas la libro Ido por omni quo aparis en la yaro 1924 e
        multa helpili de interreto.

      
Me esas ano de Ipernity:

        http://www.ipernity.com/home/230201

      
Kordiala saluti

        Thomas

    

  


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Saluto Thomas,
Esez bon-venanta, me nomesas Hans e habitas Amsterdam, ube m=
e anke laboras en la muzeo Hermitage, e ye l'aeroportuo Schiphol.
Saluti am=
ikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
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Saluto Thomas,
 
Esez bon-venanta, me nomesas=
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Saluti amikala,
 
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Kara samlinguani,


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Kara amiki,
Tradicionale me vendos libri pri ed en Ido ye la Borso di Mikra Editerii en Paradiso, venonta sundio 8 decembro, en Amsterdam.
Omnu qua esas proxima, esez bon-venanta vizitar me.
Saluti amikala,
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Kara amiki,
 
Tradicionale me vendos libri pri ed en Ido ye la Borso di Mikra Editerii en Paradiso, venonta sundio 8 decembro, en Amsterdam.
 
Omnu qua esas proxima, esez bon-venanta vizitar me.
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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Ye ca dio, 7 decembro...

43 aK. La Romana filozofo e politikisto Cicero as=
asinesis. Pos la morto di Julius Cezaro en 44 aK, Antonius esis chefa parol=
anto por la partiso di Cezaro; Cicero, qua nultempe esis amiko di Antonius,=
 e qua pensis ke Antonius false reprezentas la intenci di Cezaro, atakante =
parolis kontre Antonius, e suportis Octavianus (qua plu tarde esis imperies=
tro Augustus). Kande Antonius ed Octavianus rikonciliis su, Cicero e lua su=
portanti divenis enemiki di la stato; quankam multi refuzis revelar la loko=
 di Cicero, il fine trovesis ed ocidesis da du asasinanti, dum ke il livis =
sua domo intencante voyajar a Macedonia.


185. La supernovo SN185 esis vid=
ata. Ol observesis da Chiniana astronomi, qui deskriptis ol kom "gasto-stel=
o"; ol restis videbla en la cielo dum ok monati.=A0Ne quale altra "gast-ste=
li", t.e. kometi,=A0ol ne rapide progresis trans la cielo.=A0Co esis la max=
im frua konocata observado di supernovo. La nuna gasoza shelo RCW86 probabl=
e esas la restajo di ca supernovo. Olua disto esas cirkume 9100 lumo-yari. =
Recenta studiado di la radiado di RCW86 montras ke ol havas evo qua semblas=
 konfirmar ke ol esas SN185.

1972. Apollo 17, la lasta spaconavo en qua ho=
mi voyajis a la luno, esis lansata. La navo portis Eugene Cernan, Ronald Ev=
ans e geologo Harrison Schmitt; Cernan e Schmitt arivis ye la surfaco di la=
 luno ye 11 decembro, dum ke Evans esis en orbito cirkum la luno. La du fac=
is tri exkursi per specala vehilo, dum qui li kolektis specimeni di petro e=
 facis altra taski; singla exkurso duris cirkume sep hori. La tota disto di=
 voyajado en la vehilo esis 35,9 km; la maxim granda disto de lia navo esis=
 7,6 km. Li livis la luno ye 14 decembro, e li arivis retroe ye Tero, en la=
 suda Pacifiko, ye 19 decembro.

La du atachita imaji esas fotografuri di l=
a lunala vehilo dum la expediciono di Apollo 17: (1) dum lunala exkurso, (2=
) la finala loko di la vehilo pos la exkursi.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 7=
 decembro...

43 aK. La Romana filozofo e politikisto Cicero asasinesis.=
 Pos la morto di Julius Cezaro en 44 aK, Antonius esis chefa parolanto por =
la partiso di Cezaro; Cicero, qua nultempe esis amiko di Antonius, e qua pe=
nsis ke Antonius false reprezentas la intenci di Cezaro, atakante parolis k=
ontre
 Antonius, e suportis Octavianus (qua plu tarde esis
 imperiestro Aug=
ustus). Kande Antonius ed Octavianus rikonciliis su, Cicero e lua suportant=
i divenis enemiki di la stato; quankam multi refuzis revelar la loko di Cic=
ero, il fine trovesis ed ocidesis da du asasinanti, dum ke il livis sua dom=
o intencante voyajar a Macedonia.

185. La supern=
ovo SN185 esis vidata. Ol observesis da Chiniana astronomi, qui deskriptis
=
 ol kom "gasto-stelo"; ol restis videbla en la cielo dum ok monati.<=
span style=3D"font-size:18.18181800842285px;" id=3D"yiv1424677401yui_3_13_0=
_9_1384092453141_22"> Ne quale altra "gast-steli", t.e. kometi, <=
/span>ol ne rapide progresis trans la cielo. Co esis la maxim frua konocata obse=
rvado di supernovo. La nuna gasoza shelo RCW86 probable esas la restajo di =
ca supernovo. Olua disto esas cirkume 9100 lumo-yari. Recenta studiado di l=
a radiado di RCW86 montras ke ol havas evo qua semblas konfirmar ke ol esas=
 SN185.
1972. Apollo 17, l=
a lasta spaconavo en qua homi voyajis a la luno, esis
 lansata. La navo por=
tis Eugene Cernan, Ronald Evans e geologo Harrison Schmitt; Cernan e Schmit=
t arivis ye la surfaco di la luno ye 11 decembro, dum ke Evans esis en orbi=
to cirkum la luno. La du facis tri exkursi per specala vehilo, dum qui li k=
olektis specimeni di petro e facis altra taski; singla exkurso duris cirkum=
e sep hori. La tota disto di voyajado en la vehilo esis 35,9 km; la maxim g=
randa disto de lia navo esis 7,6 km. Li livis la luno ye 14 decembro, e li =
arivis retroe ye Tero, en la suda Pacifiko, ye 19 decembro.

La du atachita imaji esas fotografuri di la lunala vehilo =
dum la expediciono di Apollo 17: (1) dum lunala exkurso, (2) la finala loko=
 di la vehilo pos la exkursi.

Kordiale
 DGW
=


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On 07/12/2013 09:53, David Weston wrote:
> Me esperas ke vi juis lektar la mesaji de la serio "Ye ca dio".  La 
> serio nun pauzas dum kurta tempo.
>
> "Ye ca dio" retrovenos ye saturdio 4 januaro 2014.
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> Kordiale, David Weston
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        David Weston

    

    Danko pro vua serio! Me prizas lu.

    
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Kara David,

la serio esas ege interesa. Aparte la artikli pri astronomia temi.

Amikala saluti el Germania
Thomas


Am 07.12.2013 09:53, schrieb David Weston:
> Me esperas ke vi juis lektar la mesaji de la serio "Ye ca dio".  La 
> serio nun pauzas dum kurta tempo.
>
> "Ye ca dio" retrovenos ye saturdio 4 januaro 2014.
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> Kordiale, David Weston
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    Amikala saluti el Germania

    Thomas

    

    

    
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"Ye
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Kara David,

anke me esas prizanto  di vua duranta serio.

Kordiala danko
Eberhard


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>
> On 07/12/2013 09:53, David Weston wrote:
>> Me esperas ke vi juis lektar la mesaji de la serio "Ye ca dio".  La 
>> serio nun pauzas dum kurta tempo.
>>
>> "Ye ca dio" retrovenos ye saturdio 4 januaro 2014.
>>
>> Kordiale, David Weston
> Danko pro vua serio! Me prizas lu.
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      anke me esas prizanto  di vua duranta serio.

      

      Kordiala danko

      Eberhard

      

      

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        wrote:

      

      

        
Me
          esperas ke vi juis lektar la mesaji de la serio "Ye ca dio".
           La serio nun pauzas dum kurta tempo.

        


        

        
"Ye
          ca dio" retrovenos ye saturdio 4 januaro 2014.

        


        

        
Kordiale,

          David Weston

      

      Danko pro vua serio! Me prizas lu.

      
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (6) 
 

 

 

 

 "E nun..., quale agar? Quon facar?", me questionis me. Me regardis, kun vera plezuro e tote senhaste, omno cirkum me, mem ta fora montaro, qua videblesis de ibe, e quan me obliviabas mencionar en mea recenta deskripto di ta loko tante specal por me, jacanta proxim mea vilajo. 
 

 Pos mea detaloza cirkumregardado, me sideskis sur ta speco di tombo-petro, dorse al fora montaro jus aludita, e kun la zumanta kablaro elektral precize super mea kapo. Yen ke me plasizesis inter du fervoyi: ye mea dextra flanko, la rekta fervoyo, e ye mea sinistra flanko, la kurva fervoyo. Tre balde, treno venunta del urbo Valencia, atingus mea solitarajo e transirus ol senhalte. Lore, kande l' treno esus paralele cirkulanta flanke di me, me probus koncentrar mea tota energio mental por departar de ibe vers lo ne-konocata, ma deziregata. Irga danjeri esus bonvenanta, se por tandem sucesar experiencar ulo tante grandioza, quo certe chanjus mea vivo por sempre. 
 

 Ta-die, same kam la preiranta, la vetero esis splendida. Me profunde respiris plura-foye por minrapidigar la pulsado di mea tro ecitita kordio, e por pardominacar mea cerebro, qua, mem plu multe ecitita, semblis a me preske bulionta e vaporeskonta. Tamen, malgre to, me sentis, ke omno esas en ordino, ke omno harmonias, quaze to, quo esis eventanta, esus exakte to, quo mustis eventar. Quankam me devas konfesar nun, ke me anke subisis instanti di pavoro, mem di paniko, lor vidar proximeskar mea posibla departo-tempo: "Patro: forigez de me ica treno!". Ma tal instanti esis quik vinkata da mea enorma entuziasmo ed aventurema spirito, qui pulsis me adavane, sempre plu adavane. 
 

 E lore, me vidis treno trairar la ponto e proximeskar a me. E me respiris ankor-foye maxim profunde... La treno. La dika tombo-petro. La kablaro elektral. La rekta fervoyo. La kurva fervoyo. Mea kordio. Mea cerebro. ME. Des-ME. LUMO. 
 

 Kande l' treno pasis apud me tra l' rekta fervoyo, me klozis mea okuli e vartis. Ed expektis. Ed esperis. E subite, me sentis sorto di "klash-klash" en mea cerebro, e yen ke mea korpo deprenesis ad-dope ed ad-supre, dum ke me videskis lumoza punteti flava, oranjea, reda e violea, e dum ke me experiencis, ke mea korpala strukturo disfragmenteskis ed omno divenis obskureso. E me ne povas raportar quo eventis pose, pro ke me cesis konciar ed esvanis; od adminime to semblis a me. Ka posiblesas sonjar dum esvanado? Pro quo me sentis, ke, malgre omno, mea voyajo esis advere nule longa, ma kontree, quaze on simple transportabus me til ne tro fora loko, proxim mea departeyo, forsan tra ne-videbla truo, qua duktabus me ad altra dimensiono spaco-tempa kam olta nia? Ka me faliabis e ne departabis? Ka me foleskabis? Ube me? 
 

 

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E nun, kara kolegaro, voluntez atencar la prezenta pozicioni 
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Segun recenta informi, la guvernerio Kataluniana volas eventigar plebicito pri ne-dependeso di Katalunia en la 9ma di novembro 2014. La plebicito esos pri du questioni:

1. Ka vu volas, ke Katalunia esez stato?
2. Se yes, ka vu volas, ke ta stato esez ne-dependanta?

Quo eventos, se la populo respondos "yes" pri questiono 1 e "no" pri questiono 2? Quo esas "stato dependanta"? Quale to diferus del nuna stando?
Quale Valenciani, Balearani e Katalun-parolanti en regioni adjacanta opinionas pri la posibla ne-dependeso di Katalunia?
L' Uniono Europana "minacas", ke Katalunia cesos esar membro dil uniono, se ol divenos ne-dependanta. Ka to vere videsas kom minaco da Kataluniani? Ka li esas por-Bruxelles-isti?

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Hola, Gabriel! 
 Maxim probable, tal plebicito ne eventos en 2014, pro ke l' Hispan guvernerio interdiktos ol irga-kuste; tamen, provizore, Katalunia montras al mondo la klara deziro di sua
 Parlamento. Se konfirmesus l'interdikto, Katalunia profitus sua propra elekti en 2016 por adjuntar la plebicito pri la ne-dependeso de Hispania. Ulo semblas evidenta: Katalunia ne plus
 aceptos durar quale til nun interne di Hispania, ma preferos divenar sive stato tote ne-dependanta, sive sorto di stato federural, qua havos sua propra legaro, ma qua duros asociesar kun
 Hispania. Nulu savas exakte quale funcionus ica sorto di stato asociita. Ka quale Porto-Riko relate Usa? Ni vidos quo eventos de pos nun, ma, se l' populo Kataluna deziras advere votar favore
 o kontre la ne-dependeso, ol tandem sucesos votar, plu frue o plu tarde. (Partaka) 
 

  



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Segun me, Gabriel, se la populo respondus "YES" a la questiono 1 e "NO" a l=
a questiono 2, to signifikus ke la populo Kataluniana dezirus esar Stato fe=
derala.
Ma semblas ke la plebicito pri ne-dependeso di Katalunia esus ne-ko=
nstitucala pro ke ol violacus la principo dil uneso nesolvebla di la hispan=
a naciono.

Kordiale


Lo=C3=AFc Landais


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> Message du 13/12/13 15=
:00
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> 
> Segun =
recenta informi, la guvernerio Kataluniana volas eventigar plebicito pri ne=
-dependeso di Katalunia en la 9ma di novvembro 2014. La plebicito esos pri d=
u questioni:
> 
> 1. Ka vu volas, ke Katalunia esez stato?
> 2. Se yes, ka =
vu volas, ke ta stato esez ne-dependanta?
> 
> Quo eventos, se la populo re=
spondos "yes" pri questiono 1 e "no" pri questiono 2? Quo esas "stato depen=
danta"? Quale to diferus del nuna stando?
> Quale Valenciani, Balearani e K=
atalun-parolanti en regioni adjacanta opinionas pri la posibla ne-dependeso=
 di Katalunia?
> L' Uniono Europana "minacas", ke Katalunia cesos esar memb=
ro dil uniono, se ol divenos ne-dependanta. Ka to vere videsas kom minaco d=
a Kataluniani? Ka li esas por-Bruxelles-isti?
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> Questioneme
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Segun me, Gabriel, se la populo respondus "YES" a la questiono 1 e "NO" =
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 federala.
 Ma semblas ke la =
plebicito pri ne-dependeso di Katalunia esus ne-konstitucala pro ke ol viol=
acus la principo dil uneso nesolvebla di la hispana naciono.


=
Kordiale


Loïc Landais


 

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> Objet : [idolisto] Ne-dependeso Kataluniana
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&g=
t; Segun recenta informi, la guvernerio Kataluniana volas eventigar plebici=
to pri ne-dependeso di Katalunia en la 9ma di novembro 2014. La plebicito e=
sos pri du questioni:
> 
> 1. Ka vu volas, ke Katalunia ese=
z stato?
> 2. Se yes, ka vu volas, ke ta stato esez ne-dependanta?<=
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> Quo eventos, se la populo respondos "yes" pri question=
o 1 e "no" pri questiono 2? Quo esas "stato dependanta"? Quale to diferus d=
el nuna stando?
> Quale Valenciani, Balearani e Katalun-parolanti e=
n regioni adjacanta opinionas pri la posibla ne-dependeso di Katalunia?
> L' Uniono Europana "minacas", ke Katalunia cesos esar membro dil uni=
ono, se ol divenos ne-dependanta. Ka to vere videsas kom minaco da Kataluni=
ani? Ka li esas por-Bruxelles-isti?
> 
> Questioneme
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Pos longa tempo itere videbla: la vendo-listo di editerio e librerio Tia Libro:
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Me dankas Loic Landais ed Ido-France.
Saluti amikala,
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Me dankas Loic Landais ed Ido-France.
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (7)
 

 

 

 

 Kande me tandem aperteskis mea okuli, me experiencis granda konfuzeso, pro ke me mustis atencar sam-tempe plura stranja fenomeni: unesme, me sentis subita ed aparta varmeso... Me nule rikonocis la loko, ube me esis jacanta sursule e tote nuda, ma ol certe ne esis mea departo-loko... Mea sensi semblis a me augmentir lia kapablesi... Mea ecesanta graso korpal desaparabis, e me divenabis pasable magra... Mea pelo esis multe plu blanka kam kustumale, ma, tam balde kam posibla, me levis me, marchis kelka pazi, e kovris mea tota korpo per sorto di blanka robo, qua esis extensita, subsune, sur enorma planto od arbusto lokizita en la korto dil domego, an *kuya pordego, segun semblo, me tervenabis departinte de mea vilajo.  
 

 Dum mea kurta pazado, me sentis me specale lejera, quaze flotacanta, se ne fluganta. Retroveninte en l'exakta loko di mea terveno, e ja vestizita, me sideskis surtere kun mea dorso an la muro, e me komencis observar omno cirkum me... Kad omno cirkum me? Unesme, me koaktesis atencar ulo mem plu grava ed astonanta: me jus deskovrabis pro quo me sentabis me aparte blanka... Omna pili di mea brakii desaparabis... Ma ne nur olti di mea brakii, sed anke olti di mea gambi, di mea pektoro e di mea cetera korpo... Tote trublita, me anke konstatis perdir mea barbo, mea mustasho e... Ho, no! Nula haro che mea kapo! E pluse, mea brovi e mea cilio-pili same desaparabis. Ma quo eventas hike? Ube me? E lore me tandem vidis grandioza templo avan me. E lore me vidis homi pediranta, qui vestizesis per simila longa vesti kam olta quan me jus metabis por kovrar mea nudeso. E lore me regardis la blua cielo, respiris profunde, direktis mea okuli ad omno cirkum me ed esis koncianta ke, forsan yes, me advere atingabis l'urbo Jerusalem dil epoko di Jesu, quale me ya dezirabis. E pro quo ne? Ube altre me povus esar? Kad ula-loke che Maroko, proxim Hispania? Ho, no! Tote ne-posibla! Me esabis maxim konkreta lor koncentrar mea mento relate mea punto di arivo... 
 

 Dume, yen ke olda viro, qua pasis apud me, regardis me kun  kompato, e lansis almona moneto-peco adsur mea gremio. Ho! Me ne mem sucesis reaktar! Ka me aspektis advere tante kompatinda? Ma pro quo? Ka pro ke me esis senhara e senpila? Ka pro ke me sidis ibe, proxim la templo? Ka pro mea pedi sensandala? Ka pro ke l' blanka robo, quan me prenabis, esis tro granda por mea korpo e nule fitis kun ol?   
 (Parenteze: quon divenabis mea propra vestaro? Kad omno desaparabis por sempre? Ho, yes! Omno perdesis. Mem mea maxim neta naz-tuko linja desaparis survoye, ve!) 
 

 

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 Saluti e til balde! 
 

 

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Kara Hans,

bone, ke tu pmnayare konstante ofras publike la Idolinguo, vendante lua 
literaturo.
Yen duesma "vetrino" publika
Esus bon okaziono disdonar nia Ido-propagili.
Ka tu ja tradukis ol aden Nederlanda linguo?

Ka tu vendis plu multe Ido-*beletristiko od anke linguo-literaturo?

Amikale
Eberhard


Von: jjstuifbergen1961
Datum: 05.12.2013 21:37
>
>
> Kara amiki,
> Tradicionale me vendos libri pri ed en Ido ye la Borso di Mikra 
> Editerii en Paradiso, venonta sundio 8 decembro, en Amsterdam.
> Omnu qua esas proxima, esez bon-venanta vizitar me.
> Saluti amikala,
> Hans Stuifbergen

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Kara Hans,

      

      bone, ke tu pmnayare konstante ofras publike la Idolinguo,
      vendante lua literaturo.

      Yen duesma "vetrino" publika

      Esus bon okaziono disdonar nia Ido-propagili.

      Ka tu ja tradukis ol aden Nederlanda linguo?

      

      Ka tu vendis plu multe Ido-*beletristiko od anke
      linguo-literaturo?

      

      Amikale

      Eberhard

      

      

      Von: jjstuifbergen1961

      Datum: 05.12.2013 21:37

    

    

      
      
      
Kara amiki,

      
 

      
Tradicionale me vendos libri pri ed en Ido ye la Borso di
        Mikra Editerii en Paradiso, venonta sundio 8 decembro, en
        Amsterdam.

      
Omnu qua esas proxima, esez bon-venanta vizitar me.

      
Saluti amikala,

      
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Kara Eberhard,
Yes, quale tradicionale me esis ye la borso di Mikra Editeri=
i, kun Ido-libri e materiali. Me apene arivis o ja venis viro a me qua quik=
 kompris la biografio pri Arthur Rimbaud. Do, to sentis por me, kom bona si=
gno. Efektive ne plu tarde venis muliero, qua anke kompris la sama libreto.=
 Ed itere plu tarde venis konocato di me (fakte, singla yaro lu vizitas mea=
 echopo) qua ca yaro kompris La Lupanaro.
Ma plu interesanta esis la divers=
a personi qui pasis mea echopo ed interesate questionis 'quo esas Ido'. Esi=
s bona okazioni parolar ed explikar a li nia linguo e nia skopo. Esis plu m=
ulta intereseso kam l'anteriora yari. Do, me povas konkluzar ke esis tre su=
cesoza, ca yaro.
Koncernante la brochuro, me kunportis kun me la propagili =
di la Berlinana Idisti, en tri lingui, e rezolvis balde vere tradukar ol a =
la Nederlandana, nam, quale me dicis, esis multa intereso.
Saluti amikala,
=
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spi=
noza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de
Datum : =
16/12/2013 18:40
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] =
Borso di Mikra Editerii (Amsterdam)
 
  
    
      
      
      
  
  
  =
  
Kara Hans,
      
      bone, ke tu pmnayare konstante ofras publike la =
Idolinguo,
      vendante lua literaturo.
      Yen duesma "vetrino" publik=
a
      Esus bon okaziono disdonar nia Ido-propagili.
      Ka tu ja traduk=
is ol aden Nederlanda linguo?
      
      Ka tu vendis plu multe Ido-*bele=
tristiko od anke
      linguo-literaturo?
      
      Amikale
      Eberha=
rd
      
      
      Von: jjstuifbergen1961
      Datum: 05.12.2013 21:37=

    
    
      
      
      
Kara amiki,
      
      
Tradicionale me v=
endos libri pri ed en Ido ye la Borso di
        Mikra Editerii en Paradiso=
, venonta sundio 8 decembro, en
        Amsterdam.
      
Omnu qua esas pro=
xima, esez bon-venanta vizitar me.
      
Saluti amikala,
      
Hans Stuif=
bergen
    
  
    
     
    
    

  
  
  

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Kara Eberhard,
 
Yes, quale tradicionale me e=
sis ye la borso di Mikra Editerii, kun Ido-libri e materiali. Me apene ariv=
is o ja venis viro a me qua quik kompris la biografio pri Arthur Rimbaud. D=
o, to sentis por me, kom bona signo. Efektive ne plu tarde venis muliero, q=
ua anke kompris la sama libreto. Ed itere plu tarde venis konocato di me (f=
akte, singla yaro lu vizitas mea echopo) qua ca yaro kompris La Lupanaro.
 
Ma plu interesanta esis la diversa personi qui pa=
sis mea echopo ed interesate questionis 'quo esas Ido'. Esis bona okazioni =
parolar ed explikar a li nia linguo e nia skopo. Esis plu multa intereseso =
kam l'anteriora yari. Do, me povas konkluzar ke esis tre sucesoza, ca yaro.=

 
Koncernante la brochuro, me kunportis kun me la=
 propagili di la Berlinana Idisti, en tri lingui, e rezolvis balde vere tra=
dukar ol a la Nederlandana, nam, quale me dicis, esis multa intereso.
=

 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuif=
bergen
Amsterdam
--
La skoopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de=
 Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : eberhard.scholz@idolingu=
o.de
Datum : 16/12/2013 18:40
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onder=
werp : Re: [idolisto] Borso di Mikra Editerii (Amsterdam)











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Hans,

      

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Idolinguo,
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      Yen duesma "vetrino" pu=
blika

      Esus bon okaziono disdonar nia Ido-propagili.

      Ka =
tu ja tradukis ol aden Nederlanda linguo?

      

      Ka tu vendis=
 plu multe Ido-*beletristiko od anke
      linguo-literaturo?

      
      Amikale

      Eberhard

      

      

      Von: jjs=
tuifbergen1961

      Datum: 05.12.2013 21:37

    

    
      
      
      
Kara amiki,

      
&n=
bsp;

      
Tradicionale me vendos libri pri ed en Ido ye la Bors=
o di
        Mikra Editerii en Paradiso, venonta sundio 8 decembro, en
    =
    Amsterdam.

      
Omnu qua esas proxima, esez bon-venanta viz=
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Jo�o Xavier Santos skribas omnadie en Facebook-forumo "Idisti" 
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Jo�o Xavier Santos 
 

Jo�o Xavier Santos 
 
	16. Dezember 15:40

Kar amiki, Hodie en La Historio - 16 di decembro.
https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_di_decembro 

16 di decembro - Wikipedio 

io.wikipedia.org


La 16ma di decembro esas la 350ma dio di la yaro (351ma en bisextila 
yari) segun la Gregoriala kalen...

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Jo�o Xavier Santos 
 
	18. Dezember 13:35

Kar amiki, Hodie en La Historio - 18 di decembro.
http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/18_di_decembro 

18 di decembro - Wikipedio 

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La 18ma di decembro esas la 352ma dio di la yaro (353ma en bisextila 
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Kar amiki e kolegi en la tota mondo:=A0
Plezas a me informar vi, ke, dum ic=
a seman-fino (21ma e 22ma di decembro), omna IAL-uzanti invitesas vizitar e=
 mem partoprenar per sua mesaji nia unesma IAL-maratono che l' forumo posta=
_Mundi. Singlu povas e darfas skribar per sua preferata neutra IAL (linguo =
auxiliar internaciona), Che posta_Mundi ne permisesas mesaji skribita per l=
ingui teritorial. Adavane, kolegaro! Ni omna esos en posta_Mundi por interk=
omunikar ed interkomprenar per nur nia diferanta (ma pasable simila) IAL-si=
stemi, de pos la nokto-mezo (00:00 kl. MET) de venerdio a saturdio, e dum l=
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Kar amiki e kolegi en la tota mondo:=
 
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 IAL-uzanti invitesas vizitar e mem partoprenar per sua mesaji nia unesma I=
AL-maratono che l' forumo posta_Mundi. Singlu povas e darfas skribar per su=
a preferata neutra IAL (linguo auxiliar internaciona), Che posta_Mundi ne p=
ermisesas mesaji skribita per lingui teritorial. Adavane, kolegaro! Ni omna=
 esos en posta_Mundi por interkomunikar ed interkomprenar per nur nia difer=
anta (ma pasable
 simila) IAL-sistemi, de pos la nokto-mezo (00:00 kl. MET)=
 de venerdio a saturdio, e dum la tota seman-fino. Vi omna esez bonvenanta!=
 (Partaka) 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi
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Adavane kun nia Wikipedio!



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Kar amiki

Jo=
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Kar amiki,

Me volas informar vi, ke la internaciona Ido-konfero "L. Couturat"
eventos de 13-esma til 20-esma di julio 2014 en Paris, Francia.
Plusa detali konferal komunikesos a vi pose.

Hans Stifbergen skribis en diversa Ido-forumi di Facebook :
Me deziras atencigar vi ye la Kalendario 2014 editita da la Germana
Ido-Societo. Ol esas tre utila kalendario, kun informi e texti en e pri
Ido, nasko-dii di pionira Idisti, zodiako-signi, festo-dii di diversa
landi, e kompreneble, spaco por diale notar la rendevui ed eventi. La
kalendario esas en du formati: A6 (posho-formato) e A5
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(anke www.idolinguo.de)

Venez dum julio a Paris.

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (8) 
 

 

 

 

 E lore, me vidis lu. Me vidis puerulo 12-yara, cirkume, qua esis tranquile marchanta direcione al templo, quan il esis quik enironta. Quankam mea konfuzeso ne cesabis, me mustis reaktar maxim rapide, nam ta puero povis esar nulu altra kam Jesu de Nazaret. Me ne tro multe pensis, kande me levis mea manuo e salutis ilu per l'unesma vorto, qua venis en mea kapo, e qua tre multe uzesas en mea matro-linguo:
 --Hola!
 La puero haltigis sua marchado, regardis me kun intereso, ed audigis da me sua bela voco: 
 --Saluto! Ka tu esas stranjero?
 --Ka stranjero? Ho, yes! E mem plu multe kam simpla stranjero! --me respondis enigmatoze.
  
 Duminstante, me timis ke ta puero ne esas Jesu, ma nur duminstante:
 --Me intelektas: tu advenis ne nur de fora lando, ma anke de fora tempo, ka ne? --il audacis.
  
 E lore, e nur lore, me koncieskis pri ulo marveloza, quo preske paralizis mea lango: me esis konversanta kun Jesu per linguo Arameana... Ma kande' me lernabis l'Arameana? Ka to esis sorto di miraklo? Ka nova kapablesi di mea cerebro? Me nur savas, ke, pos audir l'unesma tri o quar vorti de Jesu, mea cerebro quik detektis la linguo e permisis a me komprenar e 'parlar' l'Arameana, quaze me naskabus en ita loko ita-epoke.
  
 --Ho, yes! --me asentis--. De tre fora lando e tre fora tempo, advere. Fakte, me advenis por vizitar tu, se tu esas Jesu de Nazaret; tamen, me miskalkulis la justa tempo, e yen ke me arivabas hike, adminime, deke-ok yari plu frue kam me intencis arivar. E nun, yen ke me ne tote certesas ka me sucesos itere vehar percerebre por atingar tua vivo adulta.
 --Se tu sucesabas arivar hike, tu anke sucesos arivar ibe --il asertis.
 --Ka vere? Do, me maxim volunte akompanos tu dum tua grava publika agado --me adjuntis.
 --Quale tu nomesas? --Jesu questionis.
 --Me nomesas Partakael, "Deo kun Partaka", ma nur Partaka por mea familiani ed amiki. E Par o Parti por mea spozino.
 --Bone, Partakael: me devas *adear tu nun ed enirar la templo, nam oportas ke me diskutez justa-tempe kun la savozi ibe. Til balde! 
  
 E Jesu iris en la templo, dum ke me restis sama-loke, e dum ke me komencis pensar quale me agus por ne plus miskalkular mea percerebra voyajo. Nu, ca-foye, me certe esforcus esar absolute preciza, lor orientizar mea mento vers mea exakta skopo spaco-tempa. 
 

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 Saluti e til balde! 
 

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Kara amiki,
 antehiere aparis "La Plumo Idala" numero 3:
  
 http://ido-poezio.blogspot.it/2013/12/la-plumo-idala-numero-3.html http://ido-poezio.blogspot.it/2013/12/la-plumo-idala-numero-3.html
  
 Bona Kristnasko!
  
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me deziras ad omnu!
Pasez li bone, en agreabla rondo ed atmosfero kun amiki, familio od altra-maniere.
Varma saluti,
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me deziras ad omnu!
 
Pasez li bone, en agreabla rondo ed atmosfero kun amiki, familio od altra-maniere.
 
Varma saluti,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
 
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Me trovis la libro che Google Books ed Ido aparas ibe (pagini 16 til 25).

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La libro trovesas hike:

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La libro trovesas hike:

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Respektinda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti en la tota mondo:=A0
Me deziras profitar i=
ca dati por demandar ulo de ni omna:=A0
Nia chefa Ido-forumo, Idolisto, res=
tez apertita ad omnu,=A0
ne tante importas quo eventis en tempo pasinta!=A0=

Ni pensez pri nia ofensinti, ke li simple pensas ed agas
diferante kam ni,=
 ma ke nula Idisto esas tante maligna.=A0
Dum la nexta yaro, 2014, ni rimem=
origos la centesma
aniversario dil morto di nia admirata pioniro, Louis Cou=
turat.=A0
Por Couturat e por Ido, ni omna laborez ensemble che Idolisto!=A0=

Ni ne bezonas esar amiki, ma nur bona e respektoza kolegi.=A0
Nun-tempe, I=
dolisto havas tri proprietanti (Hans, Frank ed Eberhard)=A0
e du plusa admi=
nistranti (James e Detlef). =A0
Me advere esperas, adminime, ke nulu refuzo=
s mea sugesto,=A0
quo signifikos, ke l' pordego di Idolisto apertesos ad ir=
ga Idisti=A0
od Ido-uzanti, qui demandos enirar nia central Ido-forumo.=A0
=
O mem plu bone: ke Idolisto invitos adherar ad ol omna Idisti=A0
ed Ido-uza=
nti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemble de pos 2014!=A0
Me deziras a vi maxim f=
elica e profitoza nova yaro, estimati!=A0

=A0(Partaka)=A0
=A0
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Respektinda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti en la tota mondo: 
Me deziras profitar ica da=
ti por demandar ulo de ni omna: 
Nia chefa Ido-forumo, Idolisto, restez apertita =
ad omnu, 
ne tante importas quo eventis en tempo pasinta! 
Ni pensez pri nia ofensinti,=
 ke li simple pensas ed agas
diferante kam ni, ma ke nula Idisto esas tante maligna.&n=
bsp;
Dum la=
 nexta
 yaro, 2014, ni rimemorigos la centesma
aniversario dil morto di nia admirata p=
ioniro, Louis Couturat. 
Por Couturat e por Ido, ni omna laborez ensemble che Ido=
listo! 
Ni ne bezonas esar amiki, ma nur bona e respektoza kolegi. 
Nun-tempe, Idolisto=
 havas tri proprietanti (Hans, Frank ed Eberhard) 
e du plusa administranti (Jame=
s e Detlef).  
Me advere esperas, adminime, ke nulu refuzos mea sugesto, 
quo signifiko=
s, ke l' pordego di Idolisto apertesos ad irga Idisti 
od Ido-uzanti, qui dema=
ndos enirar nia central Ido-forumo. 
O mem plu bone: ke Idolisto invitos adherar =
ad ol omna Idisti 
ed Ido-uzanti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemble de pos 2014!&nbs=
p;
Me dezir=
as a vi maxim felica e profitoza nova yaro, estimati! 

 (Partaka) 
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pos=
ta_Mundi - 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - 
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Kara Partaka,
Ye tua Krist-naskala deziro me nur povas respondar ke til nun=
 nulu esis impedata, refuzata od exkluzata de Idolisto pro sua opiniono. Se=
gun me, la kriterii por membreso esas:
- uzar Ido
- respektoze reaktar ye m=
esaji, opinioni di altri
Se ulu esis exkluzata, lu esis nerespektinta la re=
guli. To esas omno. 
Me kredas ke la reguli esas skribita ye l'acepto-pagin=
o di Idolisto: http://www.egroups.com/neo/groups/idolisto/info
Me deziras a=
 tu Agreabla Festo-dii ed omna bona por 2014.
Ka yaro en Katalunia selektos=
 esar nedependanta stato o ka la Kataluniani bone askoltis la Krist-naskala=
 parolado da rejo Juan Carlos?
Saluti pacala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--=

La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht--=
--
Van : qualevistandas@yahoo.es
Datum : 26/12/2013 14:18
Aan : idocatalaoc=
citan@yahoogroups.com, idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Por =
Couturat e por Ido (Ni omna ensemble)
 
  
    
      
      
      
Respek=
tinda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti en la tota mondo: 
Me deziras profitar ica dati =
por demandar ulo de ni omna: 
Nia chefa Ido-forumo, Idolisto, restez aperti=
ta ad omnu, 
ne tante importas quo eventis en tempo pasinta! 
Ni pensez pri=
 nia ofensinti, ke li simple pensas ed agas
diferante kam ni, ma ke nula Id=
isto esas tante maligna. 
Dum la nexta
 yaro, 2014, ni rimemorigos la cente=
sma
aniversario dil morto di nia admirata pioniro, Louis Couturat. 
Por Cou=
turat e por Ido, ni omna laborez ensemble che Idolisto! 
Ni ne bezonas esar=
 amiki, ma nur bona e respektoza kolegi. 
Nun-tempe, Idolisto havas tri pro=
prietanti (Hans, Frank ed Eberhard) 
e du plusa administranti (James e Detl=
ef).  
Me advere esperas, adminime, ke nulu refuzos mea sugesto, 
quo signi=
fikos, ke l' pordego di Idolisto apertesos ad irga Idisti 
od Ido-uzanti, q=
ui demandos enirar nia central Ido-forumo. 
O mem plu bone: ke Idolisto inv=
itos adherar ad ol omna Idisti 
ed Ido-uzanti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemb=
le de pos 2014! 
Me deziras a vi maxim felica e profitoza nova yaro, estima=
ti! 
 (Partaka) 
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - 
http://grou=
ps.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - 
    
     
    
    

  
  
  

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Kara Partaka,
 
Ye tua Krist-naskala deziro m=
e nur povas respondar ke til nun nulu esis impedata, refuzata od exkluzata =
de Idolisto pro sua opiniono. Segun me, la kriterii por membreso esas:
 
- uzar Ido
- respektoze reaktar ye mesaji,=
 opinioni di altri
 
Se ulu esis exkluzata, lu esi=
s nerespektinta la reguli. To esas omno. 
 
Me kre=
das ke la reguli esas skribita ye l'acepto-pagino di Idolisto: http://www.egroups.com/neo/=
groups/idolisto/info
 
Me deziras a tu Agreabl=
a Festo-dii ed omna bona por 2014.
 
Ka yaro en Ka=
talunia selektos esar nedependanta stato o ka la Kataluniani bone askoltis =
la Krist-naskala parolado da rejo Juan Carlos?
 
S=
aluti pacala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterd=
am
=
 
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : qualevistandas@yahoo.es
Datum : =
26/12/2013 14:18
Aan : idocatalaoccitan@yahoogroups.com, idolisto@yahoog=
roups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Por Couturat e por Ido (Ni omna ensembl=
e)
















 



  =
  

      
      
      
Respekti=
nda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti en la tota mondo: 
Me deziras profitar ica dati por dema=
ndar ulo de ni omna: 
Nia chefa Ido-forumo, Idolisto, restez apertita ad omnu,&nb=
sp;
ne tant=
e importas quo eventis en tempo pasinta! 
Ni pensez pri nia ofensinti, ke li simp=
le pensas ed agas
diferante kam ni, ma ke nula Idisto esas tante maligna. 
<=
div id=3D"yiv7436693786yui_3_13_0_ym1_6_1388058305817_10">Dum la nexta
 yar=
o, 2014, ni rimemorigos la centesma
aniversario dil morto di nia admirata pioniro, Lou=
is Couturat. 
Por Couturat e por Ido, ni omna laborez ensemble che Idolisto! =
;
Ni ne bez=
onas esar amiki, ma nur bona e respektoza kolegi. 
Nun-tempe, Idolisto havas tri =
proprietanti (Hans, Frank ed Eberhard) 
e du plusa administranti (James e Detlef)=
.  
Me=
 advere esperas, adminime, ke nulu refuzos mea sugesto, 
quo signifikos, ke l' p=
ordego di Idolisto apertesos ad irga Idisti 
od Ido-uzanti, qui demando=
s enirar nia central Ido-forumo. 
O mem plu bone: ke Idolisto invitos adherar ad =
ol omna Idisti 
ed Ido-uzanti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemble de pos 2014! <=
/div>
Me deziras =
a vi maxim felica e profitoza nova yaro, estimati! 

 (Partaka) 
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta=
_Mundi - 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - 


    

     

    










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Dank kar amiko. Me jus regardis. Fakte, me kompros la libro, ankore esas ex=
empleri obtenebla. Pos lektir la tota libro, me povos raportar pri olua kon=
teno.
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato es=
as libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : chabi1991@yahoo=
.es
Datum : 25/12/2013 18:40
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : Re:=
 [idolisto] Stephane Mahieu
 
  
    
      
      
      
Me trovis la lib=
ro che Google Books ed Ido aparas ibe (pagini 16 til 25).
La libro trovesas=
 hike:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3D4KaVGKiNJk4C&pg=3DPA56&lpg=3DPA=
56&dq=3DLa+Phalanst=C3=A8re+des+langages+excentriques&source=3Dbl&ots=3DhCn=
a-9rO9h&sig=3DY-NiUe7AbYwO9Gha--iJL6Ll9gQ&hl=3Den&sa=3DX&ei=3Dphe7Up_KK9Co0=
AWKloCAAQ&ved=3D0CGAQ6AEwDA#v=3Donepage&q=3Dido&f=3Dfalse
 
 
 
 
 
  El Do=
mingo 8 de diciembre de 2013 18:43, "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl"  escribi=C3=B3:
   
 
 
  
    
      
      
      
=
Kad ulu konocas la Franca skriptisto Stephane Mahieu e lektis sua verko (en=
 Franca:) "La Phalanst=C3=A8re des langages excentriques"?
Saluti amikala,
=
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spi=
noza)
 
    
     
    
    
      
    
     
    
    

  
  
  

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Dank kar amiko. Me jus regardis. Fakte, me kompros la libro, ankore es=
as exempleri obtenebla. Pos lektir la tota libro, me povos raportar pri olu=
a konteno.
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas=
 libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : chabi199=
1@yahoo.es
Datum : 25/12/2013 18:40
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.comOnderwerp : Re: [idolisto] Stephane Mahieu
















 



    

      
  =
    
      
Me trovis la libro c=
he Google Books ed Ido aparas ibe (pagini 16 til 25).

La libro trovesas hike:
=


http://books.google.co.uk/b=
ooks?id=3D4KaVGKiNJk4C&pg=3DPA56&lpg=3DPA56&dq=3DLa+Phalanst=C3=
=A8re+des+langages+excentriques&source=3Dbl&ots=3DhCna-9rO9h&si=
g=3DY-NiUe7AbYwO9Gha--iJL6Ll9gQ&hl=3Den&sa=3DX&ei=3Dphe7Up_KK9C=
o0AWKloCAAQ&ved=3D0CGAQ6AEwDA#v=3Donepage&q=3Dido&f=3Dfalse
 
 
 
 
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  El Domingo 8 de diciembr=
e de 2013 18:43, "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl"  escribi=C3=B3:
  
 
 

 




  



    

      
      
      
Kad ulu konocas la Franca sk=
riptisto Stephane Mahieu e lektis sua verko (en Franca:) "La Phalanst=C3=A8=
re des langages excentriques"?
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B=
. de Spinoza)
 

    

     

    
    




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Subject: re: [idolisto] Por Couturat e por Ido (Ni omna ensemble)
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Kara Partaka,

Me ne bone komprenas tua propozo pro ke semblas ke hodie Ido=
listo es grupo apertita ad omni por lektar omna mesaji e nur restriktita ad=
 olua membri por skribar mesaji.

Por divenar membro di idolisto, suficas s=
endar mesajo ad idolisto-subscribe@yahoogroups.com .

Mea propozo esus remp=
lasar la obsoleta ligilo http://members.tripod.com/~avancigado pri la inter=
reto sito "idolisto" per olca di ULI http://ido.li/

Bona finyaro.

Lo=C3=
=AFc Landais





> Message du 26/12/13 14:18
> De : "Partaka" 
> A : "idoc=
atalaoccitan@yahoogroups.com" , "idolisto@yahoogroups.com" 
> Copie =C3=A0 =
: 
> Objet : [idolisto] Por Couturat e por Ido (Ni omna ensemble)
> 
> 
> 
=
> 


Respektinda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti en la tota mondo:=C2=A0
Me deziras pr=
ofitar ica dati por demandar ulo de ni omna:=C2=A0
Nia chefa Ido-forumo, Id=
olisto, restez apertita ad omnu,=C2=A0
ne tante importas quo eventis en tem=
po pasinta!=C2=A0
Ni pensez pri nia ofensinti, ke li simple pensas ed agas
=
diferante kam ni, ma ke nula Idisto esas tante maligna.=C2=A0
Dum la nexta =
yaro, 2014, ni rimemorigos la centesma
aniversario dil morto di nia admirat=
a pioniro, Louis Couturat.=C2=A0
Por Couturat e por Ido, ni omna laborez en=
semble che Idolisto!=C2=A0
Ni ne bezonas esar amiki, ma nur bona e respekto=
za kolegi.=C2=A0
Nun-tempe, Idolisto havas tri proprietanti (Hans, Frank ed=
 Eberhard)=C2=A0
e du plusa administranti (James e Detlef). =C2=A0
Me adver=
e esperas, adminime, ke nulu refuzos mea sugesto,=C2=A0
quo signifikos, ke =
l' pordego di Idolisto apertesos ad irga Idisti=C2=A0
od Ido-uzanti, qui de=
mandos enirar nia central Ido-forumo.=C2=A0
O mem plu bone: ke Idolisto inv=
itos adherar ad ol omna Idisti=C2=A0
ed Ido-uzanti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez e=
nsemble de pos 2014!=C2=A0
Me deziras a vi maxim felica e profitoza nova ya=
ro, estimati!=C2=A0

>
=C2=A0(Partaka)=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
http://groups.ya=
hoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -=C2=A0
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Kara Partaka,


Me ne bone komprenas tua propozo pro ke semblas ke =
hodie Idolisto es grupo apertita ad omni por lektar omna mesaji e nur restr=
iktita ad olua membri por skribar mesaji.


Por divenar membro di idoolisto, suficas sendar mesajo ad ido=
listo-subscribe@yahoogroups.com .


Mea propozo esus remplasaar la obsoleta ligilo http://members=
.tripod.com/~avancigado pri la interreto sito "idolisto" per olca di ULI ht=
tp://ido.li/


 Bona finyaro.

Loïc Landai=
s
 
 



> Message du 26/1=
2/13 14:18
> De : "Partaka" 
> A : "idocatalaoccitan@yahoog=
roups.com" , "idolisto@yahoogroups.com" 
> Copie à : 
&=
gt; Objet : [idolisto] Por Couturat e por Ido (Ni omna ensemble)
> =

>





Respektinda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti en la tota mondo: 

Me deziras profita=
r ica dati por demandar ulo de ni omna: 


Nia chefa Ido-forumo, Idolisto, restez =
apertita ad omnu, 


ne tante importas quo eventis en tempo pasinta! 

<=
div id=3D"yiv7436693786yui_3_13_0_ym1_6_1388058305817_10">Ni pensez pri nia=
 ofensinti, ke li simple pensas ed agas


diferante kam ni, ma ke nula Idisto esas tant=
e maligna. 


Dum la nexta yaro, 2014, ni rimemorigos la centesma


aniversario dil morto di n=
ia admirata pioniro, Louis Couturat. 


Por Couturat e por Ido, ni omna laborez en=
semble che Idolisto! 


Ni ne bezonas esar amiki, ma nur bona e respektoza kolegi.=
 


Nun=
-tempe, Idolisto havas tri proprietanti  (Hans, Frank ed Eberhard) 

e du plusa ad=
ministranti (James e Detlef).  


Me advere esperas, adminime, ke nulu refuzos mea=
 sugesto, 


quo signifikos, ke l' pordego di Idolisto apertesos ad irga Idisti&nb=
sp;


od Ido=
-uzanti, qui demandos enirar nia centrall Ido-forumo. 


O mem plu bone: ke Idolist=
o invitos adherar ad ol omna Idisti 


ed Ido-uzanti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemb=
le de pos 2014! 


Me deziras a vi maxim felica e profitoza nova yaro, estimati!&n=
bsp;



>


&nbs=
p;(Partaka) 


 


 


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - 


http://groups.yahoo.com/group=
/IdoCatalaOccitan - 







 



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Kad existas listo di eventi od idei por celebrar l'aniversario dil morto di=
 Louis Couturat?



El Jueves 26 de diciembre de 2013 14:01, "jjstuifbergen=
1961@kpnmail.nl"  escribi=C3=B3:
 
=C2=A0 
Ka=
ra Partaka,
=C2=A0
Ye tua Krist-naskala deziro me nur povas respondar ke ti=
l nun nulu esis impedata, refuzata od exkluzata de Idolisto pro sua opinion=
o. Segun me, la kriterii por membreso esas:
=C2=A0
- uzar Ido
- respektoze =
reaktar ye mesaji, opinioni di altri
=C2=A0
Se ulu esis exkluzata, lu esis =
nerespektinta la reguli. To esas omno. 
=C2=A0
Me kredas ke la reguli esas =
skribita ye l'acepto-pagino di Idolisto: http://www.egroups.com/neo/groups/=
idolisto/info
=C2=A0
Me deziras a tu Agreabla Festo-dii ed omna bona por 20=
14.
=C2=A0
Ka yaro en Katalunia selektos esar nedependanta stato o ka la Ka=
taluniani bone askoltis la Krist-naskala parolado da rejo Juan Carlos?
=C2=
=A0
Saluti pacala,
=C2=A0
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
=C2=A0
--
La skopo di =
la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)

----Origineel Bericht----
>Van : qu=
alevistandas@yahoo.es
>Datum : 26/12/2013 14:18
>Aan : idocatalaoccitan@yah=
oogroups.com, idolisto@yahoogroups.com
>Onderwerp : [idolisto] Por Couturat=
 e por Ido (Ni omna ensemble)
>
>=C2=A0 
>Respektinda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti =
en la tota mondo:=C2=A0
>Me deziras profitar ica dati por demandar ulo de n=
i omna:=C2=A0
>Nia chefa Ido-forumo, Idolisto, restez apertita ad omnu,=C2=
=A0
>ne tante importas quo eventis en tempo pasinta!=C2=A0
>Ni pensez pri n=
ia ofensinti, ke li simple pensas ed agas
>diferante kam ni, ma ke nula Idi=
sto esas tante maligna.=C2=A0
>Dum la nexta yaro, 2014, ni rimemorigos la c=
entesma
>aniversario dil morto di nia admirata pioniro, Louis Couturat.=C2=
=A0
>Por Couturat e por Ido, ni omna laborez ensemble che Idolisto!=C2=A0
>=
Ni ne bezonas esar amiki, ma nur bona e respektoza kolegi.=C2=A0
>Nun-tempe=
, Idolisto havas tri proprietanti (Hans, Frank ed Eberhard)=C2=A0
>e du plu=
sa administranti (James e Detlef). =C2=A0
>Me advere esperas, adminime, ke =
nulu refuzos mea sugesto,=C2=A0
>quo signifikos, ke l' pordego di Idolisto =
apertesos ad irga Idisti=C2=A0
>od Ido-uzanti, qui demandos enirar nia cent=
ral Ido-forumo.=C2=A0
>O mem plu bone: ke Idolisto invitos adherar ad ol om=
na Idisti=C2=A0
>ed Ido-uzanti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemble de pos 2014!=
=C2=A0
>Me deziras a vi maxim felica e profitoza nova yaro, estimati!=C2=A0=

>
>
>=C2=A0(Partaka)=C2=A0
>=C2=A0
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mu=
ndi -=C2=A0
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -=C2=A0
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Kad existas listo di eventi od idei por celebrar l=
'aniversario dil morto di Louis Couturat?
 
 
 
 
   El Jueves 26 de diciembre de=
 2013 14:01, "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl"  escribi=C3=B3:
  
  

 


=


  



    

      
     =
 
      
Kara Partaka,
 
Ye tua Krist-naskala =
deziro me nur povas respondar ke til nun nulu esis impedata, refuzata od ex=
kluzata de Idolisto pro sua opiniono. Segun me, la kriterii por membreso es=
as:
 
- uzar Ido
- respektoze reaktar ye=
 mesaji, opinioni di altri
 
Se ulu esis exkluzata=
, lu esis nerespektinta la reguli. To esas omno. 
 
Me kredas ke la reguli esas skribita ye l'acepto-pagino di Idolisto: http://www.egroups.com/neo/groups/idolisto/i=
nfo
 
Me deziras a tu Agreabla Festo-dii ed om=
na bona por 2014.
 
Ka yaro en Katalunia selektos =
esar nedependanta stato o ka la Kataluniani bone askoltis la Krist-naskala =
parolado da rejo Juan Carlos?
 
Saluti
 pacala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
&nb=
sp;
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. d=
e Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : qualevistandas@yahoo.es
Datum : 26/12/2=
013 14:18
Aan : idocatalaoccitan@yahoogroups.com, idolist=
o@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Por Couturat e p=
or Ido (Ni omna ensemble)













=



 



    

      
  =
    
      
Respektinda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti en la to=
ta mondo: 
Me deziras profitar ica dati por demandar ulo de ni omna: 
<=
div id=3D"yiv3519052026yui_3_13_0_ym1_6_1388058305817_10">Nia chefa Ido-for=
umo, Idolisto, restez apertita ad omnu, 
ne tante importas quo eventis en tempo p=
asinta! 
Ni pensez pri nia ofensinti, ke li simple pensas ed agas
diferante kam ni, ma ke nu=
la Idisto esas tante maligna. 
Dum la nexta
 yaro, 2014, ni rimemorigos la cente=
sma
anivers=
ario dil morto di nia admirata pioniro, Louis Couturat. 
Por Couturat e por Ido,=
 ni omna laborez ensemble che Idolisto! 
Ni ne bezonas esar amiki, ma nur bona e =
respektoza kolegi. 
Nun-tempe, Idolisto havas tri proprietanti (Hans, Frank ed Eb=
erhard) 
e du plusa administranti (James e Detlef).  
Me advere esperas, adminime, ke n=
ulu refuzos mea sugesto, 
quo signifikos, ke l' pordego di Idolisto apertesos ad =
irga Idisti 
od Ido-uzanti, qui
 demandos enirar nia central=
 Ido-forumo. 
O mem plu bone: ke Idolisto invitos adherar ad ol omna Idisti =

ed Ido-uza=
nti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemble de pos 2014! 
Me deziras a vi maxim felica e =
profitoza nova yaro, estimati! 

 (Partaka) 
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi=
 - 
=
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan
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Pardonez 
Bona yarfino vice finyaro!





Kara Partaka,

Me ne bone kompren=
as tua propozo pro ke semblas ke hodie Idolisto es grupo apertita ad omni p=
or lektar omna mesaji e nur restriktita ad olua membri por skribar mesaji.
=

Por divenar membro di idolisto, suficas sendar mesajo ad idolisto-subscrib=
e@yahoogroups.com .

Mea propozo esus remplasar la obsoleta ligilo http://m=
embers.tripod.com/~avancigado pri la interreto sito "idolisto" per olca di =
ULI http://ido.li/

Bona finyaro.

Lo=C3=AFc Landais





> Message du 26/1=
2/13 14:18
> De : "Partaka" 
> A : "idocatalaoccitan@yahoogroups.com" , "id=
olisto@yahoogroups.com" 
> Copie =C3=A0 : 
> Objet : [idolisto] Por Coutura=
t e por Ido (Ni omna ensemble)
> 
> 
> 
> 


Respektinda Idisti ed Ido-uzan=
ti en la tota mondo:=C2=A0
Me deziras profitar ica dati por demandar ulo de=
 ni omna:=C2=A0
Nia chefa Ido-forumo, Idolisto, restez apertita ad omnu,=C2=
=A0
ne tante importas quo eventis en tempo pasinta!=C2=A0
Ni pensez pri nia=
 ofensinti, ke li simple pensas ed agas
diferante kam ni, ma ke nula Idisto=
 esas tante maligna.=C2=A0
Dum la nexta yaro, 2014, ni rimemorigos la cente=
sma
aniversario dil morto di nia admirata pioniro, Louis Couturat.=C2=A0
Po=
r Couturat e por Ido, ni omna laborez ensemble che Idolisto!=C2=A0
Ni ne be=
zonas esar amiki, ma nur bona e respektoza kolegi.=C2=A0
Nun-tempe, Idolist=
o havas tri proprietanti (Hans, Frank ed Eberhard)=C2=A0
e du plusa adminis=
tranti (James e Detlef). =C2=A0
Me advere esperas, adminime, ke nulu refuzo=
s mea sugesto,=C2=A0
quo signifikos, ke l' pordego di Idolisto apertesos ad=
 irga Idisti=C2=A0
od Ido-uzanti, qui demandos enirar nia central Ido-forum=
o.=C2=A0
O mem plu bone: ke Idolisto invitos adherar ad ol omna Idisti=C2=
=A0
ed Ido-uzanti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemble de pos 2014!=C2=A0
Me dez=
iras a vi maxim felica e profitoza nova yaro, estimati!=C2=A0

>
=C2=A0(Par=
taka)=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -=C2=A0=

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> 
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Pardonez 
Bona yarfino vice finyaro!





Kara Partaka,


Me ne bon=
e komprenas tua propozo pro ke semblas ke hodie Idolisto es grupo apertita =
ad omni por lektar omna mesaji e nur restriktita ad olua membri por skribar=
 mesaji.


Por divenar membro=
 di idolisto, suficas sendar mesajo ad idolisto-subscribe@yahoogroups.com .=



Mea propozo esus r=
emplasar la obsoleta ligilo http://members.tripod.com/~avancigado pri la in=
terreto sito "idolisto" per olca di ULI http://ido.li/

=

 Bona finyaro.


Loïc Landais
 
 



> Message du 26/12/13 14:18
> De : "Partak=
a" 
> A : "idocatalaoccitan@yahoogroups.com" , "idolisto@yahoogroup=
s.com" 
> Copie à : 
> Objet : [idolisto] Por Coutur=
at e por Ido (Ni omna ensemble)
> 
>





Respektinda Idisti ed I=
do-uzanti en la tota mondo: 


Me deziras profitar ica dati por demandar ulo de ni=
 omna: 


Nia chefa Ido-forumo, Idolisto, restez apertita ad omnu, 

ne tante importas q=
uo eventis en tempo pasinta! 


Ni pensez pri nia ofensinti, ke li simple pensas e=
d agas


dif=
erante kam ni, ma ke nula Idisto esas tante maligna. 


Dum la nexta yaro, 2014, n=
i rimemorigos la centesma


aniversario dil morto di nia admirata pioniro, Louis Coutur=
at. 


=
Por Couturat e por Ido, ni omna laborez ensemble che Idolisto! 

=

Ni ne bezonas es=
ar amiki, ma nur bona e respektoza kolegi. 


Nun-tempe, Idolisto havas tri propri=
etanti (Hans, Frank ed Eberhard) 


e du plusa administranti (James e Detlef). &nb=
sp;


Me adv=
ere esperas, adminime, ke nulu refuzos mea sugesto, 


quo signifikos, ke l' porde=
go di Idolisto apertesos ad irga Idisti 


od Ido-uzanti, qui demandos enirar nia =
central Ido-forumo. 


O mem plu bone: ke Idolisto invitos adherar ad ol omna Idis=
ti 


e=
d Ido-uzanti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemble de pos 2014! 


Me deziras a vi maxim=
 felica e profitoza nova yaro, estimati! 



>


 (Partaka) 


 


 


http://groups.yahoo.com/gro=
up/posta_Mundi - 


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - 
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Estimata samideani:=C2=A0
Kande me referas ad omna Idisti ed Ido-uzanti,=C2=
=A0
kande me dicas, ke ni omna ensemble che Idolisto,=C2=A0
me pensas tre k=
onkrete pri adminime tri homi, qui,=C2=A0
pro olima problemi, nun-tempe ne =
esas membri di nia chefa forumo:=C2=A0
Jean Martignon, Bebson Takata ed Ale=
xandre Xavier Casanova.
Me do deziras, ke ni omna, anke li, povez agar ense=
mble che Idolisto.=C2=A0
E me esperas, ke mea deziro esos aceptata da li e =
dal chefi di Idolisto.=C2=A0
Ka yes? Por Couturat e por Ido. Maxim kordial =
saluto a vi omna!=C2=A0


(Partaka) =C2=A0=C2=A0

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=








El Jueves 26 de diciembre de 2013 14:18, Partaka  escribi=C3=B3:


Respektinda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti en la tota mondo:=
=C2=A0
Me deziras profitar ica dati por demandar ulo de ni omna:=C2=A0
Nia =
chefa Ido-forumo, Idolisto, restez apertita ad omnu,=C2=A0
ne tante importa=
s quo eventis en tempo pasinta!=C2=A0
Ni pensez pri nia ofensinti, ke li si=
mple pensas ed agas
diferante kam ni, ma ke nula Idisto esas tante maligna.=
=C2=A0
Dum la nexta yaro, 2014, ni rimemorigos la centesma
aniversario dil =
morto di nia admirata pioniro, Louis Couturat.=C2=A0
Por Couturat e por Ido=
, ni omna laborez ensemble che Idolisto!=C2=A0
Ni ne bezonas esar amiki, ma=
 nur bona e respektoza kolegi.=C2=A0
Nun-tempe, Idolisto havas tri propriet=
anti (Hans, Frank ed Eberhard)=C2=A0
e du plusa administranti (James e Detl=
ef). =C2=A0
Me advere esperas, adminime, ke nulu refuzos mea sugesto,=C2=A0=

quo signifikos, ke l' pordego di Idolisto apertesos ad irga Idisti=C2=A0
o=
d Ido-uzanti, qui demandos enirar nia central Ido-forumo.=C2=A0
O mem plu b=
one: ke Idolisto invitos adherar ad ol omna Idisti=C2=A0
ed Ido-uzanti. Omn=
u. Ni omna laborez ensemble de pos 2014!=C2=A0
Me deziras a vi maxim felica=
 e profitoza nova yaro, estimati!=C2=A0

=C2=A0(Partaka)=C2=A0

http://grou=
ps.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -=C2=A0
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Ka li ipsa ne livis Idolisto?
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--=

La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht--=
--
Van : qualevistandas@yahoo.es
Datum : 27/12/2013 18:50
Aan : idolisto@ya=
hoogroups.com, idocatalaoccitan@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] =
Por Couturat e por Ido (Ni omna ensemble)
 
  
    
      
      
      
Es=
timata samideani: 
Kande me referas ad omna Idisti ed Ido-uzanti, 
kande me=
 dicas, ke ni omna ensemble che Idolisto, 
me pensas tre konkrete pri admin=
ime tri homi, qui, 
pro olima problemi, nun-tempe ne esas membri di nia che=
fa forumo: 
Jean Martignon, Bebson Takata ed Alexandre Xavier Casanova.
Me =
do deziras, ke ni omna, anke li, povez agar ensemble che Idolisto. 
E me es=
peras, ke mea deziro esos aceptata da li e dal chefi di Idolisto. 
Ka yes? =
Por Couturat e por Ido. Maxim kordial saluto a vi omna! 
(Partaka)   
http:=
//groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCa=
talaOccitan -
El Jueves 26 de diciembre de 2013 14:18, Partaka  escribi=C3=B3:
Respektinda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti en la tota mo=
ndo: 
Me deziras profitar ica dati por demandar ulo de ni omna: 
Nia chefa =
Ido-forumo, Idolisto, restez apertita ad omnu, 
ne tante importas quo event=
is en tempo pasinta! 
Ni pensez pri nia ofensinti, ke li simple pensas ed a=
gas
diferante kam ni, ma ke nula Idisto esas tante maligna. 
Dum la nexta y=
aro, 2014, ni rimemorigos la centesma
aniversario dil morto di nia admirata=
 pioniro, Louis Couturat. 
Por Couturat e por Ido, ni omna laborez ensemble=
 che Idolisto! 
Ni ne bezonas esar amiki, ma nur bona e respektoza kolegi. =

Nun-tempe, Idolisto havas tri proprietanti (Hans, Frank ed Eberhard) 
e du=
 plusa administranti (James e Detlef).  
Me advere esperas, adminime, ke nu=
lu refuzos mea sugesto, 
quo signifikos, ke l' pordego di Idolisto aperteso=
s ad irga Idisti 
od Ido-uzanti, qui demandos enirar nia central Ido-forumo=
. 
O mem plu bone: ke Idolisto invitos adherar ad ol omna Idisti 
ed Ido-uz=
anti. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemble de pos 2014! 
Me deziras a vi maxim fe=
lica e profitoza nova yaro, estimati! 
 (Partaka) 
http://groups.yahoo.com/=
group/posta_Mundi - 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - 
    =
 
    
     
    
    

  
  
  

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Ka li ipsa ne livis Idolisto?
 
Saluti amikal=
a,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
L=
a skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Beric=
ht----
Van : qualevistandas@yahoo.es
Datum : 27/12/2013 18:50
Aan =
: idolisto@yahoogroups.com, idocatalaoccitan@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp :=
 Re: [idolisto] Por Couturat e por Ido (Ni omna ensemble)











=





 



    

      
      
      
Estimata samideani: 

Kande me referas =
ad omna Idisti ed Ido-uzanti, 

kande me dicas, ke ni omna ensemble=
 che Idolisto, 

me pensas tre konkrete pri adminime tri homi, qui,=
 

pro olima problemi, nun-tempe ne esas membri di nia chefa forumo=
: 

Jean Martignon, Bebson Takata ed Alexandre Xavier Casanova.
=

Me do deziras, ke ni omna, anke li, povez agar ensemble che Idolisto. =
;

E me esperas, ke mea deziro esos aceptata da li e dal chefi di Idolis=
to. 

Ka yes? Por Couturat e por Ido. Maxim kordial saluto a vi omn=
a! 



(Partaka)   



http://groups.yahoo.com/g=
roup/posta_Mundi - 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan=
 -



El Jueves 26 de diciembre de 2013 14:18, Partaka  escribi=C3=B3:



Respektinda Idisti ed Ido-uzanti =
en la tota mondo: 

Me deziras profitar ica dati por demandar ulo d=
e ni omna: 

Nia chefa Ido-forumo, Idolisto, restez apertita ad omn=
u, 

ne tante importas quo eventis en tempo pasinta! 

Ni p=
ensez pri nia ofensinti, ke li simple pensas ed agas

diferante kam ni, =
ma ke nula Idisto esas tante maligna. 

Dum la nexta yaro, 2014, ni=
 rimemorigos la centesma

aniversario dil morto di nia admirata pioniro,=
 Louis Couturat. 

Por Couturat e por Ido, ni omna laborez ensemble=
 che Idolisto! 

Ni ne bezonas esar amiki, ma nur bona e respektoza=
 kolegi. 

Nun-tempe, Idolisto havas tri proprietanti (Hans, Frank =
ed Eberhard) 

e du plusa administranti (James e Detlef).  
Me advere esperas, adminime, ke nulu refuzos mea sugesto, 

quo s=
ignifikos, ke l' pordego di Idolisto apertesos ad irga Idisti 

od =
Ido-uzanti, qui demandos enirar nia central Ido-forumo. 

O mem plu=
 bone: ke Idolisto invitos adherar ad ol omna Idisti 

ed Ido-uzant=
i. Omnu. Ni omna laborez ensemble de pos 2014! 

Me deziras a vi ma=
xim felica e profitoza nova yaro, estimati! 



 (Partaka)&=
nbsp;



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - 

http:/=
/groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - 

     



    

     

    










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Me ne memoras exakte ka li livis Idolisto o kad on ekpulsis li ek ol, ma, irga-kaze, li voluntez retrovenar aden Idolisto ed on retrovenigez li aden ol, ka ne, kara Hans?  
 

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Ka tu parolas pri idisti qui kreas brodkasturi? Me havas kelka podkasti*. Yen la ligilo che Ido Sonora: http://www.ipernity.com/home/idosonora http://www.ipernity.com/home/idosonora 

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Kara Jose,

anke me esas ano di Ipernity.

La skopo di mea questiono esas ektrovi kad esas Ido-parolanti qui sendas e recevas exemple ye kurt-ondo od ultra kurt-ondo. O per Echolink.
Me havas nur du send-recevili por ultra kurt-ondo.

Amikala saluti e til rilekto
Thomas



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Kara Partaka, no, nula objeciono kontre li. Saluti saturdial, Hans
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Oke, kara Hans! 
 Tu do konkordas kun me, ke omna mencionita samideani e samlinguani darfas adherar al forumo Idolisto (se li deziras lo) e kunlaborar per sua mesaji. Ni omna ensemble en 2014! 
 

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Kara Partaka,
Tu me igas esar suspektema, ka me skribis o dicis ulo pasinte=
 quan tu nun uzos kontre me? Forsan me agas kontre ulo quan me asertis, pas=
inte? Irgamaniere, che Idolisto, se on uzez Ido-linguo, se on reaktas respe=
ktoze l'un al altra, sen insultar, lore, certe: ni omna ensemble en 2014!
S=
aluti konciliema,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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ibereso.(B. de Spinoza)
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Oke, kara Hans! 
Tu do konkordas kun me, ke omna mencion=
ita samideani e samlinguani darfas adherar al forumo Idolisto (se li dezira=
s lo) e kunlaborar per sua mesaji. Ni omna ensemble en 2014! 
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Kara Partaka,
 
Tu me igas esar suspektema, k=
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 kontre ulo quan me asertis, pasinte? Irgamaniere, che Idolisto, se on uzez=
 Ido-linguo, se on reaktas respektoze l'un al altra, sen insultar, lore, ce=
rte: ni omna ensemble en 2014!
 
Saluti konciliema=
,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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--
La=
 skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
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Datum : 29/12/2013 00:59
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 idolisto@yahoogroups.com
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Oke, kara Hans! 
Tu do konkordas kun me, ke omna mencionita =
samideani e samlinguani darfas adherar al forumo Idolisto (se li deziras lo=
) e kunlaborar per sua mesaji. Ni omna ensemble en 2014! 

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Voluntez restar tranquila, Hans, nam esas nula celita intenco. 
 Me deziris e vizis nur parklarigar ic afero. Danko pro tua vorti. 
 

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (9) 


Mea sensi definitive pluboneskabis, e me mustis quik lernar dominacar oli por ne foleskar... Yen ke me videgis, audegis, flaregis, e to omna ensemble esis advere kelke sufriganta e kaosatra por me, qua, ne-dicinde, nul-tempe experiencabis ulo simila en mea tota vivo. 

Ne tro multa minuti plu tarde, me vidis apareskar, ma pasable fore, viro e muliero, qui aspektis aparte nervoza e sucioza. Me deduktis, ke li esas Josef e Mariya, e me fixigis mea nova kapablesi an li amba... Quankam li esis ankor sat fore, me povis perfekte spektar lia mieni ed audar lia konverso, qua, tote ne-previdite, esis pri mea persono: 
--Ni questionez ta viro qua sidas ibe, ddorse anmure! Forsan, il vidis nia filio e povas informar ni prie --Josef sugestis. 
--Ka ta viro ibe? Ka ta vestizita per bllanka robo? Ho, Josef! Il semblas a me tre stranja homo --Mariya komentis. 

Voluntez kredar me, kande me dicas a vi, ke, mem sen irga mala intenco, me ne povis evitar reaktar per la yena penso: "Ka me stranja? Stranja tua gravidesko!". 

E yen ke li duris dialogar pri me, dum ke li esis pokope proximeskanta al loko, ube me esis sidanta: 
--Ho, yes! Il es advere stranja homo...  E qual enorma e kalva kapon il havas! --klamis Josef. 

Kande li tandem arivis apud me, li haltis e Josef salutis me: 
--Paco kun vu, sioro! Ka vu komprenas meea linguo?
--Yes, me komprenas e 'parlas' via linguuo. Ka me povas helpar vi? 
--Ni serchas, de tri dii ante nun, nia ppuera filiulo desaparinta. Ka vu vidis adolecanta puerulo, qua semblas flotacar dum ke lu marchas? Il esas advere tote ne-ordinara --Josef dicis. 
--Ho, yes, sioro! Me mem 'parlis' kun illu. Il eniris la templo ye ne multa tempo ante nun --me informis. 
--Ka vere? Danko! Danko, sioro! Paco kunn vu! --Josef klamis, dum senfriste irar en la templo kun sua spozino. 

Kelke pose, e kande nia santa trio ne ja ekirabis la templo, me sucesis audar la voco di Jesu: 
--Ma pro quo vi serchadis me? Ka vi ne ssavas, ke me devas okupar me pri la aferi di mea Patro? 
--Ka la aferi di tua patro? Me donos a ttu plusa aferi di tua patro! --iraceskis Josef, qua sizabis orelo di Jesu ed ektirabis ilu ad-exter la templo. 
--Aye! Aye! Aye! --Jesu expresis sua subbita orel-doloro.
--Ka tu prizas sufrigar tua matro, kerloo? Ka tu ne koncias quon tu facis? --Josef reprimandis sen liberigar ilua orelo. 
--Me pregas, Josef! Me pregas! --interveenis Mariya--. Il esas nura puero! Ne esez tro severa! 
--Ka nura puero? Puero ya, ma tro dorlottita! Se tu ne alizabus ilu, Mariya... Se tu permisabus a me ruptar ad ilu osto justa-tempe, nul-tempe eventabus ico! 

Me sentis Josef esar tante furioza, ke me decidis anke intervenar, ma maxim ruzoze ed efikive: 
--He, sioro! Anke me tre multe prizas siizar oreli por punisar pueri desobediema... Permisez a me sizar l’altra orelo di via filio por ke l’ puniso esez mem plue humiliganta! 
--Ka vu jokas, sioro? Mea filio punisesaas da nulu, ecepte da me ipsa --respondis Josef, dum quik liberigar l’orelo di Jesu.
--Oke, sioro! Me probis nur helpar per mmea ofro --me dicis.

E sen plusa vorti remarkinda, la Santa Familio duris marchar e desproximeskar de mea loko anmura, til ke me vidis li desaparar. (Parenteze: yen ke nia puera Jesu ne cesis karezar sua punisita orelo por sendolorigar ol, ve!, me konjektas). 

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Saluti e til balde! 

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (9) 
  
 

  
 

 Mea sensi definitive pluboneskabis, e me mustis quik lernar dominacar oli por ne foleskar... Yen ke me videgis, audegis, flaregis, e to omna ensemble esis advere kelke sufriganta e kaosatra por me, qua, ne-dicinde, nul-tempe experiencabis ulo simila en mea tota vivo. 
   
 Ne tro multa minuti plu tarde, me vidis apareskar, ma pasable fore, viro e muliero, qui aspektis aparte nervoza e sucioza. Me deduktis, ke li esas Josef e Mariya, e me fixigis mea nova kapablesi an li amba... Quankam li esis ankor sat fore, me povis perfekte spektar lia mieni ed audar lia konverso, qua, tote ne-previdite, esis pri mea persono: 
 --Ni questionez ta viro qua sidas ibe, dorse anmure! Forsan, il vidis nia filio e povas informar ni prie --Josef sugestis. 
 --Ka ta viro ibe? Ka ta vestizita per blanka robo? Ho, Josef! Il semblas a me tre stranja homo --Mariya komentis. 
   
 Voluntez kredar me, kande me dicas a vi, ke, mem sen irga mala intenco, me ne povis evitar reaktar per la yena penso: "Ka me stranja? Stranja tua gravidesko!". 
   
 E yen ke li duris dialogar pri me, dum ke li esis pokope proximeskanta al loko, ube me esis sidanta: 
 --Ho, yes! Il es advere stranja homo... E qual enorma e kalva kapon il havas! --klamis Josef. 
   
 Kande li tandem arivis apud me, li haltis e Josef salutis me: 
 --Paco kun vu, sioro! Ka vu komprenas mea linguo?
 --Yes, me komprenas e 'parlas' via linguo. Ka me povas helpar vi? 
 --Ni serchas, de tri dii ante nun, nia puera filiulo desaparinta. Ka vu vidis adolecanta puerulo, qua semblas flotacar dum ke lu marchas? Il esas advere tote ne-ordinara --Josef dicis. 
 --Ho, yes, sioro! Me mem 'parlis' kun ilu. Il eniris la templo ye ne multa tempo ante nun --me informis. 
 --Ka vere? Danko! Danko, sioro! Paco kun vu! --Josef klamis, dum senfriste irar en la templo kun sua spozino. 
   
 Kelke pose, e kande nia santa trio ne ja ekirabis la templo, me sucesis audar la voco di Jesu: 
 --Ma pro quo vi serchadis me? Ka vi ne savas, ke me devas okupar me pri la aferi di mea Patro? 
 --Ka la aferi di tua patro? Me donos a tu plusa aferi di tua patro! --iraceskis Josef, qua sizabis orelo di Jesu ed ektirabis ilu ad-exter la templo. 
 --Aye! Aye! Aye! --Jesu expresis sua subita orel-doloro.
 --Ka tu prizas sufrigar tua matro, kerlo? Ka tu ne koncias quon tu facis? --Josef reprimandis sen liberigar ilua orelo. 
 --Me pregas, Josef! Me pregas! --intervenis Mariya--. Il esas nura puero! Ne esez tro severa! 
 --Ka nura puero? Puero ya, ma tro dorlotita! Se tu ne alizabus ilu, Mariya... Se tu permisabus a me ruptar ad ilu osto justa-tempe, nul-tempe eventabus ico! 
   
 Me sentis Josef esar tante furioza, ke me decidis anke intervenar, ma maxim ruzoze ed efikive: 
 --He, sioro! Anke me tre multe prizas sizar oreli por punisar pueri desobediema... Permisez a me sizar l’altra orelo di via filio por ke l’ puniso esez mem plue humiliganta! 
 --Ka vu jokas, sioro? Mea filio punisesas da nulu, ecepte da me ipsa --respondis Josef, dum quik liberigar l’orelo di Jesu.  
 --Oke, sioro! Me probis nur helpar per mea ofro --me dicis.
   
 E sen plusa vorti remarkinda, la Santa Familio duris marchar e desproximeskar de mea loko anmura, til ke me vidis li desaparar. (Parenteze: yen ke nia puera Jesu ne cesis karezar sua punisita orelo por sendolorigar ol, ve!, me konjektas). 
 

 

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Ye ca dio, 4 januaro...


1710. La kompozisto Giovanni Battista Pergolesi n=
askis, en Jesi en la lora Papala Stati. Il havis interesto pri muziko ye fr=
ua evo, e studiis kompozado e violino en Jesi. Evante 16 yari il komencis s=
tudiar ye konservatorio en Napoli; ye 22 yari il divenis kapelo-maestro di =
la princo di Stigliano; ye 24 yari il esis employato di la duko di Maddalon=
i. Il kompozis plura operi, de qui la unesma esis unesmafoye pleata en 1732=
 en Napoli. Il sufris pro tuberkloso, ed il retretis en 1735 aden monakeyo =
en Pozzuoli ube il kompozis la nuntempe bone-konocata verko "Stabat Mater".=
 Il mortis en 1736, evante 26 yari.

1958. Sputnik 1, la unesma kosmosondil=
o qua atingis orbito cirkum Tero, ri-eniris terala atmosfero e par-brulis. =
Ol lansesis de Baikonur ye 4 oktobro 1957; la projeto esis kontributajo di =
USSR por la Internaciona Geofizikala Yaro 1957-8. Ca artificala satelito es=
is aluminia sfero, diametro 58cm, qua portis quar anteni. Olua pezo esis 83=
 kg e periodo di orbito esis 98 minuti. Interne esis radio-transmisanto, ku=
n povo de kemiala baterii, qua funcionis dum quar semani; la simpla signalo=
 de la satelito recevesis da multa terala observanti.

1998. En Kanada kome=
ncis granda frosto-sturmo. En tala vetero, pluvo, atingante koldega aero ye=
 basa nivelo, frostas ye kontakto kun sulo e terala objekti; la sturmo qua =
komencis ye ca dio duris til 10 januaro, e la rezultanta glacio depozitata =
havis dikeso di plu kam 6 cm; multega arbori domajesis; elektrikala linei b=
asigesis e plu kam mil elektrikala piloni esis destruktata. En suda Kebekia=
 ed esta Ontario, multega personi perdis elektrikala povo dum plura semani.=
 Pose, esis necesa rikonstruktar la sistemo di elektrikala dissendo.

Kordi=
ale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 4 januaro...

=
1710. La kompozisto Giovanni Battista Pergolesi
 naskis, en Jesi en la lora=

 Papala Stati. Il havis interesto pri muziko ye frua evo, e studiis kompoz=
ado e violino en Jesi. Evante
 16 yari il komencis studiar ye konservatorio=
 en Napoli; ye 22 yari il divenis kapelo-maestro di la princo di Stigliano;=
 ye 24 yari il esis employato di la duko di Maddaloni. Il kompozis plura op=
eri, de qui la unesma esis unesmafoye pleata en 1732 en Napoli. Il sufris p=
ro tuberkloso, ed il retretis en 1735 aden monakeyo en Pozzuoli ube il komp=
ozis la nuntempe bone-konocata verko "Stabat Mater". Il mortis en 1736, eva=
nte 26 yari.
1958. Sputnik 1, la unesma kosmosondilo qua atingis =
orbito cirkum Tero, ri-eniris terala atmosfero e par-brulis. Ol lansesis de=
 Baikonur ye
 4 oktobro 1957; la projeto esis kontributajo di USSR por la I=
nternaciona Geofizikala Yaro 1957-8. Ca artificala satelito esis aluminia s=
fero, diametro 58cm, qua portis quar anteni. Olua pezo esis 83 kg e periodo=
 di orbito esis 98 minuti. Interne esis radio-transmisanto, kun povo de kem=
iala baterii, qua funcionis dum quar semani; la simpla signalo de la sateli=
to recevesis da multa terala observanti.

1998. En Kanada komencis granda frosto-sturmo. En =
tala vetero, pluvo, atingante koldega aero ye basa nivelo, frostas ye konta=
kto kun sulo e terala objekti; la sturmo qua komencis ye ca dio duris til 1=
0 januaro, e la rezultanta glacio depozitata havis dikeso di plu kam 6 cm; =
multega arbori domajesis; elektrikala linei basigesis e plu kam mil elektri=
kala piloni esis destruktata. En suda Kebekia ed esta Ontario, multega pers=
oni perdis elektrikala povo dum plura semani. Pose, esis necesa rikonstrukt=
ar la sistemo di
 elektrikala
 dissendo.

Kordiale DGW
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (10)=C2=A0




Me intelektis, ke mea =
tempo en ta Jerusalem finabas, e ke me devas probar departar, tam balde kam=
 posibla, vers un posa Jerusalem, ube Jesu de Nazaret divenos famoza en la =
tota mondo... Tamen, oportus ke mea departo produktesus de maxim quieta lok=
o, ma yen ke me ne audacis marchar mem kelka pazi meze dil populo, nam mea =
general aspekto, e tre specale la tunikego, quan me metabis, invitis irar a=
dvere nula-loke... Semblis a me, ke sive mea blanka robo esis sempre plugra=
ndeskanta, sive mea korpo esis sempre plumikreskanta, ma, irga-kaze, me sen=
tis me tote ridikula tale vestizita, quankam tal vestegacho utilesabis, adm=
inime, por kovrar mea nudeso. E se restabus a me ula 'dubto' pri mea desbel=
ega aspekto, olta desaparabus, kande plura kindi, qui pasis apud me, regard=
is me mokeme, e salutis me per "*Adeo, sioro leda!", dum ridegar e forkurar=
 de me. Me do decidis retrovenar en la korto dil domego, ube me prenabis la=
 tuniko, ed acensar petra eskalero, quan me
 vidabis ibe, e qua, maxim prob=
able, abutus a supra teraso, de ube me povus probar desaparar por itere apa=
rar, ma en diferanta spaco ed en posa tempo.
=C2=A0
Me levis me per ne-kust=
umal ajileso e marcheskis vers la vicina korto, dum experiencar, ankor-foye=
, ke mea korpo plulejereskabis, quaze ol esus flotacanta... E yen ke, mem a=
nte komencar acensar l=E2=80=99eskalero, me shokesis dal fakto previdar, ku=
n plena certeso, quon me trovos ibe, ke me renkontros nulu, e do ke tal ter=
aso esos loko tote quieta e sekura por me... Pos atingir ol, me serchis la =
maxim oportuna angulo por mea departo, e la maxim bona celeyo, kaze ke me a=
udus bruiso di pazi acensanta l=E2=80=99eskalero. Apen pensetar pri quale p=
ovus aspektar la proprietanto di mea vestego, igis me tremeskar, nam lu mus=
tus esar enorma, quaza giganto 2-metra e 140-kilograma, adminime...
=C2=A0
=
Kande me sucesis aprobar la perfekta departo-punto en la teraso, me sentis =
la bezono e l'impulso desmetar mea robego e restar itere tote nuda, tal qua=
l me tervenabis en Jerusalem departinte de mea vilajo. E me desmetis mea ve=
sto.
=C2=A0
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is ante mea unesma departo, e pluse, me adicionis ad ol la vorti, quin Jesu=
 dicabis a me: "Se tu sucesabas arivar hike, tu anke sucesos arivar ibe."
=
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atraktesis dal cielo... Me atraktesis... E ke, ca-kaze, me sentis en mea ce=
rebro nula "klash-klash", ma nura sorto di senfina zumado, qua invitis me k=
lozar l'okuli, obliviar pri me ipsa e lasar me duktar til la transa rivo...=
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Me intelekti=
s, ke mea tempo en ta Jerusalem finabas, e ke me devas probar departar, tam=
 balde kam posibla, vers un posa Jerusalem, ube Jesu de Nazaret divenos fam=
oza en la tota mondo... Tamen, oportus ke mea departo produktesus de maxim =
quieta loko, ma yen ke me ne audacis marchar mem kelka pazi meze dil populo=
, nam mea general aspekto, e tre specale la tunikego, quan me metabis, invi=
tis irar advere nula-loke... Semblis a me, ke sive mea blanka robo esis sem=
pre plugrandeskanta, sive mea korpo esis sempre plumikreskanta, ma, irga-ka=
ze, me sentis me tote ridikula tale vestizita, quankam tal vestegacho utile=
sabis, adminime, por kovrar mea nudeso. E se restabus a me ula 'dubto' pri =
mea desbelega aspekto, olta desaparabus, kande plura kindi, qui pasis apud =
me, regardis me mokeme, e salutis me per "*Adeo, sioro leda!", dum ridegar =
e forkurar de me. Me do decidis retrovenar en la korto dil domego, ube me
 =
prenabis la tuniko, ed acensar petra eskalero, quan me vidabis ibe, e qua, =
maxim probable, abutus a supra teraso, de ube me povus probar desaparar por=
 itere aparar, ma en diferanta spaco ed en posa tempo.
 =

Me levis me per ne-kustumal ajileso e marcheskis vers la vi=
cina korto, dum experiencar, ankor-foye, ke mea korpo plulejereskabis, quaz=
e ol esus flotacanta... E yen ke, mem ante komencar acensar l=E2=80=99eskal=
ero, me shokesis dal fakto previdar, kun plena certeso, quon me trovos ibe,=
 ke me
 renkontros nulu, e do ke tal teraso esos loko tote quieta e sekura =
por me... Pos atingir ol, me serchis la maxim oportuna angulo por mea depar=
to, e la maxim bona celeyo, kaze ke me audus bruiso di pazi acensanta l=E2=
=80=99eskalero. Apen pensetar pri quale povus aspektar la proprietanto di m=
ea vestego, igis me tremeskar, nam lu mustus esar enorma, quaza giganto 2-m=
etra e 140-kilograma, adminime...
 
Kande=
 me sucesis aprobar la perfekta departo-punto en la teraso, me sentis la be=
zono e l'impulso
 desmetar mea robego e restar itere tote nuda, tal qual me=
 tervenabis en Jerusalem departinte de mea vilajo. E me desmetis mea vesto.=

 
Ca-foye, mea konvinkeso esis mem plu g=
randa kam olta quan me juis ante mea unesma departo, e pluse, me adicionis =
ad ol la vorti, quin Jesu dicabis a me: "Se tu sucesabas arivar hike, tu an=
ke sucesos arivar ibe."
 
Me ne tedos v=
i per explikar a vi, tote detaloze, omno quon me facis por departar; me nur=
 dicos a vi, ke me atraktesis dal bluo dil cielo... Me atraktesis dal cielo=
... Me atraktesis... E ke, ca-kaze, me sentis en mea cerebro nula "klash-kl=
ash", ma nura sorto di senfina zumado, qua invitis me klozar l'okuli, obliv=
iar pri me ipsa e lasar me duktar til la transa rivo... "Zummm_Zummm_Zummm_=
Zummm_Zummm_".               


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Felica nova yaro, Steve. Felica nova yaro, samlistani.

Herder

Jesu naskin=
te che l =C2=B4urbo Bethleem,en Judea, lor la tempo dil rejo Herodes, yen k=
e magi veninta ek Oriento arivis ad Ierusalem, dicante: ube esas la rejo di=
l Judi, qua jus naskis?Fakte ni vidis ilua stelo levar su e ni esas veninta=
 facar homajo ad ilu. Ton savante, la rejo Herodes emoceskis ed omna Ierusa=
lem kun il. Il asemblis omna sacerdotuli kun la skribisti dil populo ed il =
inquestis pri la loko ube naskabus la Kristo. Che Bethleem di Judea li dici=
s ad il. Tale, fakte, skribesis da la profeti: E tu, Bethleem, lando di Jud=
a, tu nule esas la min granda di la klani di Juda, nam de tu ekiros chefo q=
ua esos pastoro di mea populo Israel.
Lore, Herodes sekrete venigis la magi=
, precizigesis da li pri la tempo dil aparo di la stelo e sendis li a Bethl=
eem, dicante: irez inquestar exakte pri l =C2=B4infanto e kande vi trovos l=
u,  avertez me,  por ke anke me irez adorar lu.
Pose audir la rejo, li depa=
rtis. E la stelo quan li vidabis iris avan li, til haltar super la loko ube=
 esis l =C2=B4infanto. Lor vidar itere la stelo, la magi sentis granda joyo=
.
E kande li eniris la lojeyo, li vidis l =C2=B4infanto kun Maria, ilua mat=
ro. Li genupozis ed adoris ilu. Pose li apertis lia kofreti ed ofris donaca=
ji ad il: oro, incenso e miro.Avertata lor sonjo, ne rivenar che Herodes, l=
i retroiris a lia landi, sequante altra voyo.

(Matheus 2,1 =E2=80=93 12.

=
From: Steve Walesch 
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 10:50 AM
To: Idolisto 
=
Subject: [idolisto] Felica nova yaro

  
Kara samideani,

Me deziras a vi o=
mna maxim felicoza yaro 2014 e bona saneso.

Amikale,
Steve



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Felica nova yaro, Steve. Felica nova yaro, samlistani.

<=
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Herder


 


Jesu naskinte che=
 l =C2=B4urbo Bethleem,en Judea, lor la tempo dil rejo Herodes, 
yen ke mag=
i veninta ek Oriento arivis ad Ierusalem, dicante: ube esas la rejo 
dil Ju=
di, qua jus naskis?Fakte ni vidis ilua stelo levar su e ni esas veninta 
fa=
car homajo ad ilu. Ton savante, la rejo Herodes emoceskis ed omna Ierusalem=
 
kun il. Il asemblis omna sacerdotuli kun la skribisti dil populo ed il in=
questis 
pri la loko ube naskabus la Kristo. Che Bethleem di Judea li dicis=
 ad il. Tale, 
fakte, skribesis da la profeti: E tu, Bethleem, lando di Jud=
a, tu nule esas la 
min granda di la klani di Juda, nam de tu ekiros chefo =
qua esos pastoro di mea 
populo Israel.


Lore, Herodes sekrete ve=
nigis la magi, precizigesis da li pri la tempo dil 
aparo di la stelo e sen=
dis li a Bethleem, dicante: irez inquestar exakte pri l 
=C2=B4infanto e ka=
nde vi trovos lu,  avertez me,  por ke anke me irez 
adorar lu.

Pose audir la rejo, li departis. E la stelo quan li vidabis iris =
avan li, 
til haltar super la loko ube esis l =C2=B4infanto. Lor vidar iter=
e la stelo, la magi 
sentis granda joyo.


E kande li eniris la lo=
jeyo, li vidis l =C2=B4infanto kun Maria, ilua matro. Li 
genupozis ed ador=
is ilu. Pose li apertis lia kofreti ed ofris donacaji ad il: 
oro, incenso =
e miro.Avertata lor sonjo, ne rivenar che Herodes, li retroiris a 
lia land=
i, sequante altra voyo.


 


(Matheus 2,1 =E2=80=93=
 12.






 




From: =
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nova yaro esas ja =
tam okupata.


 


Clarice Lispector.


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Kara amiki,
  
 me publikigis nova rakonto en Ido:
  
 http://ido-poezio.blogspot.it/2014/01/la-libro-raptera.html http://ido-poezio.blogspot.it/2014/01/la-libro-raptera.html
  
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Ye 11 januaro...

1693. Severa tertremo eventis ye la esto dil insulo Sicil=
ia. Pos mikra tertremo ye 9 januaro, qua ipsa efektigis domajo, la precipua=
 tremo duris quar minuti, qua efektigis grava domajo di urbi e vilaji en su=
d-esta Sicilia; cirkume 60 mil personi mortis. Esis "tsunami" ye la litoro =
dil Ioniana Maro, qua severe domajis litorala vilaji. Dum la sequanta yari =
esis multa rikonstruktado di urbi, pluraloke sur nova tracuri. Nova publika=
 edifici e kirki havis notinda arkitekturala stilo, qua plu tarde nomizesis=
 "Siciliana baroka".=A0

1787. Titania ed Oberon, du sateliti di la planeto=
 Urano, deskovresis (ma ne tale nomizesis) da astronomo William Herschel, q=
ua deskovrabis ca planeto en 1781. Herschel, naskinta en Hanover en 1738 e =
rezidinta en Anglia depos 1757, originale esis muzikisto e kompozisto, e pl=
u tarde divenis interesata pri astronomio. Ilua filiulo John Herschel, qua =
esis ciencisto e fotografisto, nomizis la du sateliti Titania ed Oberon en =
1852. (En la dramato "A Midsummer Night's Dream" by Shakespeare, Titania es=
as rejino di la fei ed Oberon esas elua spozulo.) La sateliti esis vizitata=
 en 1986 da kosmosondilo Voyager 2, qua fotografis preske duimo di olia sur=
faci, ed anke deskovris plusa sateliti di Urano.

1940. En Leningrad, la ba=
leto "Romeo e Juliet" da Sergei Prokofiev esis unesmafoye pleata, en revizi=
ta versiono, da la baleto-kompanio di Kirov. La originala muziko, komisita =
da la Kirov-kompanio, esis kompleta en 1935. La baleto-kompanio di Bolshoi,=
 qua intencis prizentar unesma pleado di la verko, opinionis ke ol esas tro=
 desfacila, e ke la konkluzo esas chanjenda; nam, vice la tragediala konklu=
zo di la dramato da Shakespeare, la originala baleto havis felica fino. La =
revizita versiono, kun tragediala konkluzo, prizentita en Leningrad, esas l=
a versiono qua divenis sucesoza en sequanta yari.=A0

Kordiale DGW
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Ye 11 januaro...

1693=
. Severa tertremo eventis ye la esto dil insulo Sicilia. Pos mikra tertremo=
 ye 9 januaro, qua ipsa efektigis domajo, la precipua tremo duris quar minu=
ti, qua efektigis grava domajo di urbi e vilaji en sud-esta Sicilia; cirkum=
e 60 mil personi mortis. Esis "tsunami" ye la litoro dil Ioniana Maro, qua =
severe domajis litorala vilaji. Dum la sequanta yari esis multa rikonstrukt=
ado di urbi, pluraloke sur nova tracuri. Nova publika edifici e kirki havis=
 notinda arkitekturala stilo, qua plu tarde nomizesis "Siciliana
 baroka".&=
nbsp;

1787. Titania ed Oberon, du sateliti di la planeto Urano, deskovresis (ma =
ne tale nomizesis) da
 astronomo William
 Herschel, qua deskovrabis ca plan=
eto en 1781. Herschel, naskinta en Hanover en 1738 e rezidinta en Anglia de=
pos 1757, originale esis muzikisto e kompozisto, e plu tarde divenis intere=
sata pri astronomio. Ilua filiulo John Herschel, qua esis ciencisto e fotog=
rafisto, nomizis la du sateliti Titania ed Oberon en 1852. (En la dramato "=
A Midsummer Night's Dream" by Shakespeare, Titania esas rejino di la fei ed=
 Oberon esas elua spozulo.) La sateliti esis vizitata en 1986 da kosmosondi=
lo Voyager 2, qua fotografis preske duimo di olia surfaci, ed anke deskovri=
s plusa sateliti di Urano.

1940. En Leningra=
d, la baleto "Romeo e Juliet" da Sergei Prokofiev
 esis unesmafoye pleata, =
en revizita versiono, da la baleto-kompanio di Kirov. La originala muziko, =
komisita da
 la Kirov-kompanio, esis kompleta en 1935. La baleto-kompanio d=
i Bolshoi, qua intencis prizentar unesma pleado di la verko, opinionis ke o=
l esas tro desfacila, e ke la konkluzo esas chanjenda; nam, vice la tragedi=
ala konkluzo di la dramato da Shakespeare, la originala baleto havis felica=
 fino. La revizita versiono, kun tragediala konkluzo, prizentita en Leningr=
ad, esas la versiono qua divenis sucesoza en sequanta yari. 

Kordiale
 DGW

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Hola, Tiberio! 
 Me dankas e gratulas tu pro tua nova Ido-verko, LA LIBRO RAPTERA, quan me ja parlektis. 
 Me tre joyas pri tua riganita kreiveso. Adavane! Sempre adavane!
 Maxim kordial saluton me sendas a tu de mea propra lando, Partakistan! 
 

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (11)


Ka me dicis =E2=80=9Cla transa=
 rivo=E2=80=9D? Nu, yen ke me fakte riaparis inter rivo e rivo e, plu exakt=
e, meze di poke profunda rivero, en olqua me ritrovis me sidanta surfunde e=
 tote nuda=E2=80=A6 Me devas agnoskar, ke, ante departar, pasis tra mea men=
to la drola ideo, ke, nun, kande me departos nuda, me forsan arivos vestizi=
ta, ma to ya nule eventis, e yen ke me duris restar nuda, senhara e senpila=
, ve!=C2=A0

Me esabis tante preciza pri mea arivo-loko ed -epoko, ke esis =
advere pasable justifikebla la fakto, ke me riaparis meze di rivero=E2=80=
=A6 E tal rivero povus esar nul altra kam la fluvio Jordan=E2=80=A6 E la fl=
uvio plenigesis per multa homi, qui esis askoltanta ed obedianta la vorti d=
i ulu, qua esis klameganta:=C2=A0
--Venez a me, pekeri! Repentez pri via pe=
ki, e me vin baptos por via salvo! Repentez! Repentez!=C2=A0

Ta ulu, kompr=
eneble, esis Jan la Baptisto, qua stacis meze dil rivero, e qua esis baptan=
ta e puriganta, per aquo dil Jordan, omna pekera homi, qui proximigis ad il=
u=E2=80=A6=C2=A0

Quon me agus ca-foye por kovrar mea nudeso? Me devas konf=
esar, ke, anke ca-kaze, mea unesma ideo esis advere absurda, nam me pensabi=
s demandar a Jan la Baptisto ula vesto=E2=80=A6 Tamen, me quik konjektis, k=
e, mem kaze ke l=E2=80=99 Baptisto posedus altra vesto, ol esus mem plu hor=
orinda kam olta, quan il esis uzanta por baptar=E2=80=A6 Ho, Deo mea! Jan l=
a Baptisto advere impresis me, ne nur pro ilua klamegi al populo, ma anke p=
ro ilua sordid aspekto=E2=80=A6 Me nul-tempe vidabis ulu, qua, mem meze dil=
 aquo, semblis prizar ol nur por baptar e por drinkar, ma nule por netigar =
su e sua vesti=E2=80=A6=C2=A0

Dume, yen ke me vidis ulo, quo pasos flotaca=
nta apud me, e me ya kaptis l=E2=80=99okaziono por prenar ta ulo, quo esis =
nulo altra kam pasable mikra texajo blanka, nule sordida, ma recente netigi=
ta=E2=80=A6 Ol semblis a me esar tante poke utila, ke me preske riliberigis=
 ol, ma, subite, me intelektis olua funciono, e ke tal tuko, adminime provi=
zore, esus certe util a me=E2=80=A6 Me surprizis me ipsa pro mea habileso a=
ranjar e metar tal sorto di kalsono =E2=80=9Cinri=E2=80=9D-stila, mem dum s=
idar surfunde e meze di rivero, nam, ne-dicinde, me nul-tempe antee uzabis =
tal simpla texajo kom kalsono=E2=80=A6 Dum tegar mea subkalsona parti korpa=
l, me povis ya konfirmar lo: nula pilo nula-loke.=C2=A0


[...]=C2=A0

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Saluti e til balde!=C2=A0

P A R T A K A
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PAR=
TAKAEL, da Partaka (11)
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Ka me dicis =E2=80=9Cla transa rivo=E2=80=9D? Nu=
, yen ke me fakte riaparis inter rivo e rivo e, plu exakte, meze di poke pr=
ofunda rivero, en olqua me ritrovis me sidanta surfunde e tote nuda=E2=80=
=A6 Me devas agnoskar, ke, ante departar, pasis tra mea mento la drola ideo=
, ke, nun, kande me departos nuda, me forsan arivos vestizita, ma to ya nul=
e eventis, e yen ke me duris restar nuda, senhara e senpila, ve! 

Me esabis tante
 preciza pri mea arivo-loko ed -epoko=
, ke esis advere pasable justifikebla la fakto, ke me riaparis meze di rive=
ro=E2=80=A6 E tal rivero povus esar nul altra kam la fluvio Jordan=E2=80=A6=
 E la fluvio plenigesis per multa homi, qui esis askoltanta ed obedianta la=
 vorti di ulu, qua esis klameganta: 
--Venez a me, pekeri! Repentez pri via peki, e me vin bapt=
os por via salvo! Repentez! Repentez! 

Ta ul=
u, kompreneble, esis Jan la Baptisto, qua stacis meze dil rivero, e qua esi=
s baptanta e puriganta, per aquo dil Jordan, omna pekera homi, qui proximig=
is ad ilu=E2=80=A6 
=

Quon me agus ca-foye por=
 kovrar mea nudeso? Me devas konfesar, ke, anke ca-kaze, mea unesma ideo es=
is advere absurda, nam me pensabis demandar a Jan la Baptisto ula
 vesto=E2=
=80=A6 Tamen, me quik konjektis, ke, mem kaze ke l=E2=80=99 Baptisto posedu=
s altra vesto, ol esus mem plu hororinda kam olta, quan il esis uzanta por =
baptar=E2=80=A6 Ho, Deo mea! Jan la Baptisto advere impresis me, ne nur pro=
 ilua klamegi al populo, ma anke pro ilua sordid aspekto=E2=80=A6 Me nul-te=
mpe vidabis ulu, qua, mem meze dil aquo, semblis prizar ol nur por baptar e=
 por drinkar, ma nule por netigar su e sua vesti=E2=80=A6 

Dume, yen ke me vidis ulo, quo pasos flotacanta apud me, e m=
e ya kaptis l=E2=80=99okaziono por prenar ta ulo, quo esis nulo altra kam p=
asable mikra texajo blanka, nule sordida, ma recente netigita=E2=80=A6 Ol s=
emblis a me esar tante poke utila, ke me preske riliberigis ol, ma, subite,=
 me intelektis olua funciono, e ke tal tuko, adminime provizore, esus certe=
 util a me=E2=80=A6 Me surprizis me ipsa pro mea habileso aranjar e metar t=
al sorto di kalsono =E2=80=9Cinri=E2=80=9D-stila,
 mem dum sidar surfunde e=
 meze di rivero, nam, ne-dicinde, me nul-tempe antee uzabis tal simpla texa=
jo kom kalsono=E2=80=A6 Dum tegar mea subkalsona parti korpal, me povis ya =
konfirmar lo: nula pilo nula-loke. 


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Saluti e til balde! 

P A R T A K A
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Kara amiki,
 
 me riaparigis en mea blogo "Ido-poezio" la poemi desaparinta:
  
 http://ido-poezio.blogspot.it/ http://ido-poezio.blogspot.it/
  
 Hazarde, la kovrilo di la libro "La tri suni", qua videsas supre, bone konkordas kun la kolori di la blogo. :-)
 
 Kordiale,
 
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Kara amiki,
Kad existas l'Ido-gramatiko en la Persiana?
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
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La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)

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Kara amiki,
 
Kad existas l'Ido-gramatiko en la Persiana?
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)

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Komunikado di ULI:

=C2=A0

L'INTERNACIONA IDO-RENKONTRO 2014 organizata da=
 ULI eventos en PARIS inter la 15ma e 21ma di julio.

=C2=A0

La partoprena=
nti povas rezervar dormo-chambri al Internaciona Sejorno-Centro KELLERMANN =
di PARIS per olua formulario: 

=C2=A0

http://www.cisp.fr/cisp/pages/home-=
11.html

=C2=A0

Ti qui preferas rezervar per mediaco dil asociuro Ido-Fran=
ce povas uzar la sequanta formulario:

=C2=A0

https://docs.google.com/form=
s/d/11mmorENMPXv22GM0sf6X3T4eRTn1B4gvsv40skAABI8/viewform




La temo esas =
la vivo e la verko di Louis Couturat.




Detaloza programo di konferi, viz=
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Komunikado di ULI:


 


L'INTERNACIONA IDO-RENKONTRO 2014 organizata da ULI eventos en PARIS inter la 15ma e 21ma di julio.


 


La partoprenanti povas rezervar dormo-chambri al Internaciona Sejorno-Centro KELLERMANN di PARIS per olua formulario: 


 


http://www.cisp.fr/cisp/pages/home-11.html


 


Ti qui preferas rezervar per mediaco dil asociuro Ido-France povas uzar la sequanta formulario:


 


https://docs.google.com/forms/d/11mmorENMPXv22GM0sf6X3T4eRTn1B4gvsv40skAABI8/viewform





La temo esas la vivo e la verko di Louis Couturat.





 Detaloza programo di konferi, viziti ed exkursi precizigesos plu tarde ma ne vartez ol por rezervar dormo-chambri pro ke vu riskus ne povar trovar chipa lojeyo en Paris dum julio.

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Kara samideani e samskopani en la tota mondo:=A0

Hodie, ni rimemoras l'ani=
versario di Louis Couturat, qua naskis ye l' 17ma di januaro 1968, same kam=
, ica-yare 2014, ni rimemoros la 100ma aniversario di lua frua morto, qua p=
roduktesis en agosto 1914.

Ido vivez! Vivez Ido!

=A0(Partaka)

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Ho, amiki, voluntez pardonar me!=C2=A0

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arde kam il advere naskis, nam nia pioniro, komprenende, naskis en 1868 (ne=
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Hodie, ni rimemoras l'an=
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m, ica-yare 2014, ni rimemoros la 100ma aniversario di lua frua morto, qua =
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Ye ca dio, 18 januaro...


532. En Konstantinoplo, grava tumulto (la "Nika-=
tumulto") esis finigata. La tumulto komencis ye 13 januaro en la hipodromo =
ube charo-konkursi eventis; la spektanti, qui kustumale esis di du opozanta=
 grupi, cafoye unigite opozis la imperiestro Justinianus 1ma, maledikante i=
l pro alta imposti ed altra rankori; li omna klamis "Nika!" ("Vinko!") Retr=
etinte de la hipodromo aden sua palaco, Justinianus konsideris fugo, ma ilu=
a spozino Theodora deskonsilis il. Dum kelka dii, granda parto di Konstanti=
noplo destruktesis. Trupi di Justinianus supresis la tumulto; cirkume 30 mi=
l personi mortis. Justinianus pose duris kom imperiestro til morto en 565, =
evante 82 yari; dum ta periodo il direktis ri-konstruktado dil urbo, inkluz=
ante la katedralo Hagia Sofia.


1486. Rejulo Henry 7ma di Anglia mariajesi=
s ye Westminster-abadeyo, ad Elizabeth filiino di rejulo Edward 4ma. Lo seq=
uis ilua vinko di Richard 3ma (fratulo di Edward), qua mortis ye la batalio=
 di Bosworth en 1485; la batalio finigis longa disputo inter du rejala fami=
lii (la "Militi di la Rozi"). Henry havis poka yuro a la trono; ilua matro =
esis decendanto di Edward 3ma (qua regnis 1327-77). Ilua mariajo kun Elizab=
eth esis demarsho unionar la du rejala familii.

1535. Lima, la precipua ur=
bo di Peru, fondesis. Francisco Pizarro, pos ke il vinkis Atahualpa, la reg=
nanto di le Inca, esis nomizata da la Hispana krono kom guvernanto di la vi=
nkita landi. Pos exploro di la tereno, apta loko esis trovata por nova prec=
ipua urbo, qua esis proxim la Pacifiko, ube suficanta aquo e ligno esis dis=
ponebla, ed ube la vetero esis agreabla. Pizarro nomizis la nova urbo "Ciud=
ad de los Reyes" - Civito di la Reji.=A0

Kordiale DGW

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Ye ca dio, 18 januaro...

532=
. En Konstantinoplo, grava tumulto (la "Nika-tumulto") esis finigata. La tu=
multo komencis ye 13 januaro en la hipodromo ube charo-konkursi eventis; la=
 spektanti, qui kustumale esis di du opozanta grupi, cafoye unigite opozis =
la imperiestro Justinianus 1ma, maledikante il pro alta imposti ed altra ra=
nkori; li omna klamis "Nika!" ("Vinko!") Retretinte de la hipodromo aden su=
a palaco, Justinianus konsideris fugo, ma ilua spozino Theodora deskonsilis=
 il. Dum kelka dii, granda parto di Konstantinoplo destruktesis. Trupi di J=
ustinianus supresis la tumulto; cirkume 30 mil personi mortis. Justinianus =
pose duris kom imperiestro til morto en 565, evante 82 yari; dum ta periodo=
 il direktis ri-konstruktado dil urbo, inkluzante la katedralo Hagia
 Sofia=
.

1486. Rejulo
 Henry 7ma di Anglia mariajesis y=
e Westminster-abadeyo, ad Elizabeth filiino di rejulo Edward 4ma.
 Lo sequi=
s ilua vinko di Richard 3ma (fratulo di Edward), qua mortis ye la batalio d=
i Bosworth en 1485; la batalio finigis longa disputo inter du rejala famili=
i (la "Militi di la Rozi"). Henry havis poka yuro a la trono; ilua matro es=
is decendanto di Edward 3ma (qua regnis 1327-77). Ilua mariajo kun Elizabet=
h esis demarsho unionar la du rejala familii.

1535. Lima, la precipua=
 urbo di Peru, fondesis. Francisco Pizarro, pos ke il vinkis Atahualpa, la =
regnanto di le Inca, esis nomizata da la Hispana krono kom guvernanto di la=
 vinkita landi. Pos exploro di la tereno, apta loko esis trovata por nova p=
recipua urbo, qua esis proxim la Pacifiko, ube suficanta aquo e ligno esis =
disponebla, ed ube la vetero esis agreabla. Pizarro nomizis la nova urbo "C=
iudad de los Reyes" - Civito di la Reji. 

Kordial=
e DGW

=


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Kara amiki,

hiere dum nia kunveno  ni konversis pri nia voyajo en somero a Paris.

Hodie ni itere expozis Ido lor gimnaziala "Apertita Pordo".
Ibe docisti e gimnaziani montri ed explikis  lia skolo ad interesata 
genitori.
La Berlinan Idoamiki diskutis kun multa adulti, inter li kelka Angli qui 
vivas en Berlin.
Nia mikra stoko di propagili esis balde exhaustita.

Morge la Berlinana grupo vizitos nia estimata Alfred Neussner, qua es 
grave malada.
6 e duima hori duros la vehado fervoyala. Ibe en Burghofen expektos nia 
amiki
Dieter Schmidtchen, sua spozo e mea amiko Gert Heintze.

Esez salutata
Eberhard



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Kara Eberhard,

Voluntez donar mea forta bondeziri ad Alfred, ed anke ad il=
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Me esperas ke Alfred balde divenos sana.

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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:36:39 +0100, Eberhard Scholz wrote:
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i,

hiere dum nia kunveno  ni konversis pri nia voyajo en somero a Paris.

=
Hodie ni itere expozis Ido lor gimnaziala "Apertita Pordo".
Ibe docisti e g=
imnaziani montri ed explikis  lia skolo ad interesata
genitori.
La Berlinan=
 Idoamiki diskutis kun multa adulti, inter li kelka Angli qui
vivas en Berl=
in.
Nia mikra stoko di propagili esis balde exhaustita.

Morge la Berlinana=
 grupo vizitos nia estimata Alfred Neussner, qua es
grave malada.
6 e duima=
 hori duros la vehado fervoyala. Ibe en Burghofen expektos nia
amiki
Dieter=
 Schmidtchen, sua spozo e mea amiko Gert Heintze.

Esez salutata
Eberhard

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (12)


Kande me vidis, ke nul plusa h=
omo esis pronta proximeskar al Baptisto por baptesar da ilu, me ipsa audaci=
s staceskar e pokope proximeskar al santa viro por salutar lu. Me sentis me=
, adminime, kelke vestizita, danke l=E2=80=99 kalsono quan me jus improviza=
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--Repentez, pekero! Repentez pri tua peki, e venez ad=
hike por ke me baptez tu! --Jan la Baptisto volunte invitis me.
--Ho, no, a=
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--Ne mentiez, pekero! Se =
me baptabus tu, me certesas, ke me ne plus obliviabus tua kapo!=C2=A0

Ka m=
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ula Herodes e sua bofrata spozino, Putifar, igos senkapigar e mortigar Jan =
la Baptisto, pos enkarcerigar lu=E2=80=A6 Ho, yes! Me savas lo! Me bone sav=
as, ke la spozino di Herodes ne nomesis Putifar (viro-nomo relatanta altra =
historio Biblal), ma me sempre nomas el tal-maniere; e tale, me ja povas as=
ertar, ke elua filiino, nome Salom=C3=A9, esis vera filio di Putifar, qua p=
ostulis la kapo dil Baptisto kom danso-premio.=C2=A0

--Me venas de fora la=
ndo e futura tempo, e me ja baptesis en mea tempo e mea lando, qua lokizesa=
s extreme dil granda maro, che maxim profunda Ocidento --me probis explikar=
.=C2=A0
--Ma quon tu dicas, folo? Repentez, pekero! Repentez! Nulu povas ve=
nar del futuro! --la Baptisto klamis.=C2=A0
--Ka vere, Jan? Bone. Me savas =
qua tu esas, e me saveskis mem pri tua genitori, Zakarias ed Elizabet --me =
klarigis.=C2=A0
--Ma quale?! Ka tu konocis mea genitori? --il questionis du=
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--Ho, pardonez! =
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--Ka me la Mesio? Ho, no! Me nomesas P=
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--Ta-kaze, repentez, peke=
ro! Repentez pri tua peki e ne plus mentiez! Me baptos tu! --la Baptisto ri=
ganis sua diskurso.=C2=A0
--Ho, no, Jan! Me ne mentias! Tu baptos Emmanuel,=
 ne Partakael. Tu baptos la Mesio. Me advere ja baptesis.
--Ka plusa folajo=
, profetacho? Me nule dignesas baptar la Mesio, ma baptesar da Lu! --il kla=
megis.


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Saluti e ti=
l balde!=C2=A0

P A R T A K A
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oximeskar al Baptisto por baptesar da ilu, me ipsa audacis staceskar e poko=
pe proximeskar al santa viro por salutar lu. Me sentis me, adminime, kelke =
vestizita, danke l=E2=80=99 kalsono quan me jus improvizabis e metabis.&nbs=
p;

--Repentez, pekero! Repentez pri tua peki, e v=
enez adhike por ke me baptez tu! --Jan la Baptisto volunte invitis me.
--Ho, no, amiko! Me ja bapte=
sis --me polite respondis. 
--Ne mentiez, pekero! Se me baptabus tu, me certesas, ke me ne plus=
 obliviabus tua kapo! 
Ka mea kapo? Lore, me=
 ne povis evitar regardar, aparte atencoze, la kapo dil kompatinda Baptisto=
, ed imaginar ol jacar sur luxoza pleto; tamen, me ne esis ibe por probar c=
hanjar lo eventonta, mem kaze ke me povus agar lo. Yen ke ula Herodes e sua=
 bofrata spozino, Putifar, igos senkapigar e mortigar Jan la Baptisto, pos =
enkarcerigar lu=E2=80=A6 Ho, yes! Me savas lo! Me bone savas, ke la spozino=
 di Herodes ne nomesis Putifar (viro-nomo relatanta altra historio Biblal),=
 ma me sempre nomas el tal-maniere; e tale, me ja povas asertar, ke elua fi=
liino, nome Salom=C3=A9, esis vera filio di Putifar, qua postulis la kapo d=
il Baptisto kom
 danso-premio. 

--Me venas d=
e fora lando e futura tempo, e me ja baptesis en mea tempo e mea lando, qua=
 lokizesas extreme dil granda maro, che maxim profunda Ocidento --me probis=
 explikar. 
--Ma quo=
n tu dicas, folo? Repentez, pekero! Repentez! Nulu povas venar del futuro! =
--la Baptisto klamis. 
--Ma quale?! Ka tu konocis mea genitori? --il qu=
estionis dum grategar la kapo ed apertegar la okuli--. Ho, pardonez! Ka tu =
esas ta, quan ni esas vartanta? --il adjuntis. 
--Me ne savas ka vi esis vartanta me. Kad ulu a=
vertis tu pri mea adveno en ica
 tempo? 
--Ho, pardonez! Pardonez! Ka tu esas la Mesio? --Ka me la Mesio? Ho, no! =
Me nomesas Partakael, e me ne esas la Mesio, kredez me! 
--Ta-kaze, repentez, pekero! Repentez =
pri tua peki e ne plus mentiez! Me baptos tu! --la Baptisto riganis sua dis=
kurso. 
--Ho, no, Ja=
n! Me ne mentias! Tu baptos Emmanuel, ne Partakael. Tu baptos la Mesio. Me =
advere ja baptesis.
--Ka =
plusa folajo, profetacho? Me nule dignesas baptar la Mesio, ma baptesar da =
Lu! --il klamegis.


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ULI-komuni=
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Kara samideani,
  
 me sendis importanta letro
  
 a Marion Kasper.
  
 La letro esas lektebla da omna interesati:
  
 http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/01/letro-marion-kasper.html http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/01/letro-marion-kasper.html
  
 Kordiale,
  
 Tiberio Madonna
  
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Kara samideani,

che Wikipedio me lektis ke Heinrich Peus anke elaboris Ido-stenografio. Kad esas exempli irgaloke?

Amikala saluti
Thomas


Se milito esas la respondo, lore ni bezonas nova questiono.



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Kara samskopani,

hastez ed anuncez maxim balde via veno ad amikala renkontro en Paris.
Me esperas rividor vi konocata e nova simpatiozi.
Anke esas bonvenanta ta, qua ne povas parolar en nia Iinguo !
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Ye ca dio, 25 januaro...

1348. En la suda Alpi di Europa esis severa tertr=
emo; la centro situesis ye Friuli en la nord-esto di Italia. Esis multa des=
truktado en norda Italia ed en suda Austria, e plura mil personi mortis. En=
 Karintia, Villach e vicina vilaji destruktesis da terkrulo. Esis kelka des=
truktado en Roma. Ca evento esis samtempa kun la komenco di la Nigra Morto =
en Europa, ed en la menti di lora homi la du eventi esis ligita, esanta agi=
 di Deo qui esis grandega e ne-expektata.

1924. En Chamonix en Francia, la=
 unesma Wintrala Olimpiala Ludi komencis. Li duris til 5 februaro. Partopre=
nanti de 16 nacioni asistis, la maxim multi de Unionita Rejio (44), Francia=
 (43), Suedia (31), Suisia (30), Chekoslovakia (27), Usa (24) ed Italia (23=
). Norvegia, qua sendis 14 personi a la Ludi, ganis la maxim multa =A0medal=
ii: 4 ora, 7 arjenta e 6 bronza. La ora medalii esis ganata en quar ski-eve=
nti, de qui tri ganesis da Thorleif Haug (1894-1934).

2004. La kosmosondil=
o "Opportunity" atingis la surfaco di Marso. Ol lansesis ye 7 julio 2003; l=
a skopo di ca projeto di NASA esis explorar la geologio di la planeto. Ye a=
rivo la kosmosondilo, qua portis vehilo, situesis en kratero, proxim olua b=
ordo. To esis interesiva por la ciencisti di la projeto; li iniciis explora=
do di la petri e sulo en la kratero. La vehilo pose departis de la kratero =
e komencis explorado di la regiono. Li expektis ke la misiono durus dum 90 =
marsala dii (un marsala dio esante kelke plu kam un terala dio); tamen "Opp=
ortunity" ankore funcionas e transmisas informeso. En agosto 2013 ol atingi=
s ula saliajo di la bordo di Endeavour-kratero, nomizita "Solander Point", =
quan ol ankore studias. Ye meza januaro 2014, la tota voyajo-disto di la ve=
hilo, depos arivo, esis 38,73 km.=A0


Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 25 januaro...

1348. En la suda Alpi di Europa esis sever=
a tertremo; la centro situesis ye Friuli en la nord-esto di Italia. Esis mu=
lta destruktado en norda Italia ed en suda Austria, e plura
 mil personi mo=
rtis. En Karintia, Villach e vicina vilaji destruktesis da terkrulo. Esis k=
elka destruktado en Roma. Ca evento esis samtempa kun la komenco di la Nigr=
a Morto en Europa, ed en la menti di lora homi la du eventi esis ligita, es=
anta agi di Deo qui esis grandega e ne-expektata.

1924. En Chamonix en Francia, la unesma W=
intrala Olimpiala Ludi komencis. Li duris til 5 februaro. Partoprenanti de =
16 nacioni asistis, la maxim multi de Unionita Rejio (44), Francia (43), Su=
edia (31), Suisia (30), Chekoslovakia (27), Usa (24) ed Italia (23). Norveg=
ia, qua sendis 14 personi a la Ludi, ganis la maxim multa  medalii: 4 =
ora, 7 arjenta e 6 bronza. La ora medalii esis ganata en quar ski-eventi, d=
e qui tri ganesis da Thorleif Haug (1894-1934).
=

2004. La kos=
mosondilo
 "Opportunity" atingis la surfaco di Marso. Ol lansesis ye 7 juli=
o 2003; la skopo di ca projeto di NASA esis explorar la geologio di la plan=
eto. Ye arivo la kosmosondilo, qua portis vehilo, situesis en kratero, prox=
im olua bordo. To esis interesiva por la ciencisti di la projeto; li inicii=
s explorado di la petri e sulo en la kratero. La vehilo pose departis de la=
 kratero e komencis explorado di la regiono. Li expektis ke la misiono duru=
s dum 90 marsala dii (un marsala dio esante kelke plu kam un terala dio); t=
amen "Opportunity" ankore funcionas e transmisas informeso. En agosto 2013 =
ol atingis ula saliajo di la bordo di Endeavour-kratero, nomizita "Solander=
 Point", quan ol ankore studias. Ye meza januaro 2014, la tota voyajo-disto=
 di la vehilo, depos arivo, esis 38,73 km. 

Kordiale DGW
=


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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (13)  
 

 

Lore, eventis ulo advere stranja: yen ke, subite, la Baptisto cesis regardar e ‘parlar’ a me, quaze il perdabus sua tota intereso pri mea persono… Pluse, ilua mieno transformesis a mem plu serioza kam kustumale, ed il direktis sua okuli ad ulu, qua esis proximeskanta dorse di me… La Baptisto, qua staceskis ferme e qua mem ne palpebragis, komencis saltegar vertikale ad-supre, ad-supre, ad-supre, ad-supre… Quale explikar!? Ka vi spektis ula-foye quale saltas le Masai en Afrika? Nu, la saltado dil Baptisto multe pensigis da me pri tal original salti ad-supra, quankam olti da ilu esis mem plu difikulta, pro ke il esis saltanta meze di rivero e kun aquo tilgenue… Me quik intelektis to quo esis eventanta, kande me turnis mea kapo e vidis Jesu de Nazaret, qua venis a ni… Segun semblo, singla-foye, kande Jesu e la Baptisto interrenkontris, ilca ne povis evitar salteskar koram ilta; mem ante naskir, Jan ja saltis en la ventro di sua matro, kande elca vizitesis da Mariya, qua lore anke gravideskabis. 
  
La Baptisto, tote rigida, ne cesis saltar ad-supre, til ke Jesu tushis ilua shultri per sua manui… Lore, la Nazaretano pregis baptesar da Jan, ed ilca dicis ad ilta refuzante:   
--Me esas ta qua bezonas baptesar da tu… E tu venas a me?
  
E Jesu respondis ad ilu, plu o min, per la yena vorti: 
--Permisez, nun, ke ni agez tale, nam oportas ke ni respektez ed obediez omna yusteso!  
  
E lore, Jan aceptis baptar Jesu. E jus baptir ilu, apertesis la cielo, e yen ke blanka kolombo decensis de ol, til tervenar sur la kapo di Jesukristo. (Tal fakto rimemorigis da me, ke anke me havis mea blanka kolombo, preske surkape, kande me evis du yari ed esis fotografita en la Placo dil Santa Virgino, che l’urbo Valencia). 
  
E pose, apertesis la megafono dil cielo, ed audesis voco aparte grava e personal (kad aparte grava e deal?), qua dicis: 
--Tu esas mea Filio, la Estimata, pri qua me komplezesis.   
 

Esis ibe amaso de homi, qui vidis ed audis omno eventinta; tamen, kande Jesu judiciesis e morte-kondamnesis, yen ke nula testi su prizentis por naracar, defense di Kristo, ke li advere audis la voco di Deo vokar Filio a Jesu, e ke Lu igis decensar Sua Propra Spirito, kom blanka kolombo, adsur la kapo dil Filio. Multa testi, ma nula testi. Tre stranja, ka ne? 
  
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Kara Chabi,

danko pro la longa listo, danko pro diligenta laboro en
https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ido-jurnalaro

Adavane wikipediisti!

Amikale, Eberhard


Betreff: Re: [IdoCatalaOccitan] Ido-jurnalaro che Ido-wikipedio
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>
> Facita!
>
>
> El Martes 21 de enero de 2014 16:48, "qualevistandas@yahoo.es" 
>  escribió:
> Hola, Chabi!
> Semblas a me, ke, che l' fako Ido-jurnalaro di nia Ido-wikipedio, 
> oportas anuncar anke la sequanta publikigaji:
> - Adavane! (Fernando Tejón)
> - Astronomiala Kayereto
> - Ido-Saluto!
> - Ido-Vivo
> - La Plumo Idala
> https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ido-jurnalaro
>
> Bona laboro, amiko!
>
>  (Partaka)
>
>
>
>
> 


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Kara Chabi,

      

      danko pro la longa listo, danko pro diligenta laboro en

      https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ido-jurnalaro 

      

      Adavane wikipediisti!

      

      Amikale, Eberhard

      

      

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      Von: Chabi Chabi 

      Datum: 29.01.2014 18:15

    

    

      
      
      
Facita!
        
 

          

          

            

              
  El Martes 21
                  de enero de 2014 16:48, "qualevistandas@yahoo.es"
                   escribió:

                 

              

                

                  

                     
                    

                      

                        

                          
Hola, Chabi! 

                          
Semblas a me, ke, che l' fako
                            Ido-jurnalaro di nia Ido-wikipedio, oportas
                            anuncar anke la sequanta publikigaji: 

                          
- Adavane! (Fernando Tejón)

                          
- Astronomiala Kayereto 

                          
- Ido-Saluto! 

                          
- Ido-Vivo 

                          
- La Plumo Idala 

                          
                          


                          

                          
Bona laboro, amiko! 

                          


                          

                          
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Kara Robert, Loic, Partaka ed amiki,

kompreneble, me transdonis saluti da vi a le Neussner.
Generale me povas dicar, la stando di Alfred esas desfacila,
quankam lu ankore restas aktiva por nia idealo.
Me joyas ke Heidi standas ankore sat bone por helpar Alfred.

Robert, ka anke vu venos a Paris?

Saluti de Berlin
EBerhard



Von: Robert Carnaghan 
Datum: 18.01.2014 22:11

> Kara Eberhard,
>
> Voluntez donar mea forta bondeziri ad Alfred, ed anke ad ilua spozino Heidi.
> Me esperas ke Alfred balde divenos sana.
>
> Kordiale,
> Robert C.
>
>
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:36:39 +0100, Eberhard Scholz wrote:
> Kara amiki,
>
> hiere dum nia kunveno  ni konversis pri nia voyajo en somero a Paris.
>
> Hodie ni itere expozis Ido lor gimnaziala "Apertita Pordo".
> Ibe docisti e gimnaziani montri ed explikis  lia skolo ad interesata
> genitori.
> La Berlinan Idoamiki diskutis kun multa adulti, inter li kelka Angli qui
> vivas en Berlin.
> Nia mikra stoko di propagili esis balde exhaustita.
>
> Morge la Berlinana grupo vizitos nia estimata Alfred Neussner, qua es
> grave malada.
> 6 e duima hori duros la vehado fervoyala. Ibe en Burghofen expektos nia
> amiki
> Dieter Schmidtchen, sua spozo e mea amiko Gert Heintze.
>
> Esez salutata
> Eberhard
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Me petas helpo ad omni por plubonigar nia Wikipedio. Kun la ku=
nlaboro di omna idisto, nia Wikipedio esos plu bona ed havos multa nova art=
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Adavane!





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Adavane wikipediisti!

Amikale, Eberhard


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Facita! 
>
>
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kom novico en Ido me kreas nova artikleti en Wikipedio por exerco.

Ma oli bezonas gramatikala revizo.

Amikala saluti de Hameln (Germania)
Thomas

Ido komprenesas omnaloke.
Ido estas komprenita ĉie.

Am 30.01.2014 00:38, schrieb Chabi Chabi:
>
>
> Nedankinde!
>
> Me petas helpo ad omni por plubonigar nia Wikipedio. Kun la kunlaboro 
> di omna idisto, nia Wikipedio esos plu bona ed havos multa nova artikli.
>
> Adavane!
>
>
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Kara Chabi,

        

        kom novico en Ido me kreas nova artikleti en Wikipedio por
        exerco.

        

        Ma oli bezonas gramatikala revizo.

      

      Amikala saluti de Hameln (Germania)

      Thomas

      

      
Ido komprenesas omnaloke.
Ido estas komprenita ĉie.



      Am 30.01.2014 00:38, schrieb Chabi Chabi:

    

    

      
      

      

      
Nedankinde!

        

        Me petas helpo ad omni por plubonigar nia Wikipedio. Kun la
        kunlaboro di omna idisto, nia Wikipedio esos plu bona ed havos
        multa nova artikli.

        

        Adavane!

        


          

        
 

          

        

      

    

    

  


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ASKOLTEZ SONA ENREJISTRURO: https://app.box.com/s/fb78vp2ugbdax0wgydfl https://app.box.com/s/fb78vp2ugbdax0wgydfl

Per dio varmeta, partale nuboza, finas monato, kande Jordania prezidis la Konsilantaro di Sekureso di la Nacioni Unionita, ube Jordania ofte votas kun Djibuti, Brazilia e Mexiklando. En Jordania esas la yaro 1435, nam tanta yari lunal pasis depos la hejiro. Segun Facebook, Egiptlandani esas la maxim bona amiki di Jordaniani. Arabia Saudia esas la maxim granda partenero komercal di Jordania. Segun l' Inquesto Mondal di Valori, Marokani ed Indiani esas mentale proxima a Jordaniani.

 Yen kelka novajeti:
 2014-01-13 | 2 456 671 | 142 145 JO    | Korto milital Jordaniana deklaris sis viri kulpinta, ke ili interdiktite esas jihadisti salafista e ke en la 25ma di septembro ili ne-legale atentabis infiltrar aden Siria vicina por kombatar en ibea milito inter-civitana, dum quo quar ek ili, detektite an la fenco frontiera, pafabis per sua mitraliosi kontre du soldati Jordaniana patrolianta ibe e serioze vundabis li. La quar kondamnesis ad en-karcerigo dek-yara, la du altra kondamnesis ad en-karcerigi kin-yara ed un-yara. 2014-01-20 | 2 456 678 | 142 145 SA    | Dum ke jihadisti suportata da Arabia Saudia e jihadisti suportata da Turkia inter-kombatis, du bombi automobilal ocidis adminime dekesis homi en posteno tenata da jihadisti Siriana an la frontiero di Turkia. 2014-01-22 | 2 456 680 | 142 034 IN-DL | Judiciisto di Dillī imperis inquestar la morto di Sunanda Pushkar, la spozino di Shashi Tharoor, sub-ministrulo di developado di provizuri homal Indiana. http://nuntios.blogspot.com/2014/01/2014-jordania.html http://nuntios.blogspot.com/2014/01/2014-jordania.html



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Saluto Gabriel,

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Danko pro la interesiva novajeti kun sonora enreji=
struro.

Quo signifikas | 2 456 671 | 142 145 JO ?


Kordiala saluti de Fra=
ncia.

Lo=C3=AFc Landais





> Message du 31/01/14 15:10
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briel@centrum.cz
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> Copie =C3=A0 : 
> Objet :=
 [idolisto] Kelka novajeti - Jordania 2014
> 
> 
> 
> ASKOLTEZ SONA ENREJIS=
TRURO: https://app.box.com/s/fb78vp2ugbdax0wgydfl
> 
> Per dio varmeta, par=
tale nuboza, finas monato, kande Jordania prezidis la Konsilantaro di Sekur=
eso di la Nacioni Unionita, ube Jordania ofte votas kun Djibuti, Brazilia e=
 Mexiklando. En Jordania esas la yaro 1435, nam tanta yari lunal pasis depo=
s la hejiro. Segun Facebook, Egiptlandani esas la maxim bona amiki di Jorda=
niani. Arabia Saudia esas la maxim granda partenero komercal di Jordania. S=
egun l' Inquesto Mondal di Valori, Marokani ed Indiani esas mentale proxima=
 a Jordaniani.
> 
>
> Yen kelka novajeti:


2014-01-13 | 2 456 671 | 142 14=
5 JO=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 | Korto milital Jordaniana deklaris sis viri kulpint=
a, ke ili interdiktite esas jihadisti salafista e ke en la 25ma di septembr=
o ili ne-legale atentabis infiltrar aden Siria vicina por kombatar en ibea =
milito inter-civitana, dum quo quar ek ili, detektite an la fenco frontiera=
, pafabis per sua mitraliosi kontre du soldati Jordaniana patrolianta ibe e=
 serioze vundabis li. La quar kondamnesis ad en-karcerigo dek-yara, la du a=
ltra kondamnesis ad en-karcerigi kin-yara ed un-yara.
2014-01-20 | 2 456 67=
8 | 142 145 SA=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 | Dum ke jihadisti suportata da Arabia Sau=
dia e jihadisti suportata da Turkia inter-kombatis, du bombi automobilal oc=
idis adminime dekesis homi en posteno tenata da jihadisti Siriana an la fro=
ntiero di Turkia.
2014-01-22 | 2 456 680 | 142 034 IN-DL | Judiciisto di Di=
ll=C4=AB imperis inquestar la morto di Sunanda Pushkar, la spozino di Shash=
i Tharoor, sub-ministrulo di developado di provizuri homal Indiana.

http:/=
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> 
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n sonora enrejistruro.


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 Kordiala saluti de Francia.


Loïc Landais
 
 


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; : 
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> =

> ASKOLTEZ SONA ENREJISTRURO: https://app.box.com/s=
/fb78vp2ugbdax0wgydfl
> 
> Per dio varmeta, partale nub=
oza, finas monato, kande Jordania prezidis la Konsilantaro di Sekureso di l=
a Nacioni Unionita, ube Jordania ofte votas kun Djibuti, Brazilia e Mexikla=
ndo. En Jordania esas la yaro 1435, nam tanta yari lunal pasis depos la hej=
iro. Segun Facebook, Egiptlandani esas la maxim bona amiki di Jordaniani. A=
rabia Saudia esas la maxim granda partenero komercal di Jordania. Segun l' =
Inquesto Mondal di Valori, Marokani ed Indiani esas mentale proxima a Jorda=
niani.
> 
>

> Yen kelka novajeti:


    

  • 2014-0=
1-13 | 2 456 671 | 142 145 JO    | Korto milital Jordaniana =
deklaris sis viri kulpinta, ke ili interdiktite esas jihadisti salafista e =
ke en la 25ma di septembro ili ne-legale atentabis infiltrar aden Siria vic=
ina por kombatar en ibea milito inter-civitana, dum quo quar ek ili, detekt=
ite an la fenco frontiera, pafabis per sua mitraliosi kontre du soldati Jor=
daniana patrolianta ibe e serioze vundabis li. La quar kondamnesis ad en-ka=
rcerigo dek-yara, la du altra kondamnesis ad en-karcerigi kin-yara ed un-ya=
ra.
    • 

  • 2014-01-20 | 2 456 678 | 142 145 SA    | Dum ke=
 jihadisti suportata da Arabia Saudia e jihadisti suportata da Turkia inter=
-kombatis, du bombi automobilal ocidis aadminime dekesis homi en posteno ten=
ata da jihadisti Siriana an la frontiero di Turkia.
    • 

  • 2014-01-22 | 2=
 456 680 | 142 034 IN-DL | Judiciisto di Dill=C4=AB imperis inquestar la mo=
rto di Sunanda Pushkar, la spozino di Shashi Tharoor, sub-ministrulo di dev=
elopado di provizuri homal Indiana.
    • 



http=
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Saluto Gabriel,

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Danko pro la interesiva novajeti kun sonora enreji=
struro.

Quon signifikas | 2 456 671 | 142 145 JO ?


Kordiala saluti de Fr=
ancia.

Lo=C3=AFc Landais





> Message du 31/01/14 15:10
> De : svoboda.g=
abriel@centrum.cz
> A : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
> Copie =C3=A0 : 
> Objet =
: [idolisto] Kelka novajeti - Jordania 2014
> 
> 
> 
> ASKOLTEZ SONA ENREJI=
STRURO: https://app.box.com/s/fb78vp2ugbdax0wgydfl
> 
> Per dio varmeta, pa=
rtale nuboza, finas monato, kande Jordania prezidis la Konsilantaro di Seku=
reso di la Nacioni Unionita, ube Jordania ofte votas kun Djibuti, Brazilia =
e Mexiklando. En Jordania esas la yaro 1435, nam tanta yari lunal pasis dep=
os la hejiro. Segun Facebook, Egiptlandani esas la maxim bona amiki di Jord=
aniani. Arabia Saudia esas la maxim granda partenero komercal di Jordania. =
Segun l' Inquesto Mondal di Valori, Marokani ed Indiani esas mentale proxim=
a a Jordaniani.
> 
>
> Yen kelka novajeti:


2014-01-13 | 2 456 671 | 142 1=
45 JO=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 | Korto milital Jordaniana deklaris sis viri kulpin=
ta, ke ili interdiktite esas jihadisti salafista e ke en la 25ma di septemb=
ro ili ne-legale atentabis infiltrar aden Siria vicina por kombatar en ibea=
 milito inter-civitana, dum quo quar ek ili, detektite an la fenco frontier=
a, pafabis per sua mitraliosi kontre du soldati Jordaniana patrolianta ibe =
e serioze vundabis li. La quar kondamnesis ad en-karcerigo dek-yara, la du =
altra kondamnesis ad en-karcerigi kin-yara ed un-yara.
2014-01-20 | 2 456 6=
78 | 142 145 SA=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 | Dum ke jihadisti suportata da Arabia Sa=
udia e jihadisti suportata da Turkia inter-kombatis, du bombi automobilal o=
cidis adminime dekesis homi en posteno tenata da jihadisti Siriana an la fr=
ontiero di Turkia.
2014-01-22 | 2 456 680 | 142 034 IN-DL | Judiciisto di D=
ill=C4=AB imperis inquestar la morto di Sunanda Pushkar, la spozino di Shas=
hi Tharoor, sub-ministrulo di developado di provizuri homal Indiana.

http:=
//nuntios.blogspot.com/2014/01/2014-jordania.html


> 
> 
=C2=A0

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Saluto Gabriel,


 

Danko pro la interesiva novajeti ku=
n sonora enrejistruro.


Quon=
 signifikas | 2 456 671 | 142 145 JO ?



 Kordiala saluti de Francia.


Loïc Landais
 
 


=

> Message du 31/01/14 15:10
> De : svoboda.gabri=
el@centrum.cz
> A : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
> Copie &agrav=
e; : 
> Objet : [idolisto] Kelka novajeti - Jordania 2014
>=
 
> ASKOLTEZ SONA ENREJISTRURO: https://app.box.com/=
s/fb78vp2ugbdax0wgydfl
> 
> Per dio varmeta, partale nu=
boza, finas monato, kande Jordania prezidis la Konsilantaro di Sekureso di =
la Nacioni Unionita, ube Jordania ofte votas kun Djibuti, Brazilia e Mexikl=
ando. En Jordania esas la yaro 1435, nam tanta yari lunal pasis depos la he=
jiro. Segun Facebook, Egiptlandani esas la maxim bona amiki di Jordaniani. =
Arabia Saudia esas la maxim granda partenero komercal di Jordania. Segun l'=
 Inquesto Mondal di Valori, Marokani ed Indiani esas mentale proxima a Jord=
aniani.
> 
>

> Yen kelka novajeti:


    

  • 2014-=
01-13 | 2 456 671 | 142 145 JO    | Korto milital Jordaniana=
 deklaris sis viri kulpinta, ke ili interdiktite esas jihadisti salafista e=
 ke en la 25ma di septembro ili ne-legale atentabis infiltrar aden Siria vi=
cina por kombatar en ibea milito inter-civitana, dum quo quar ek ili, detek=
tite an la fenco frontiera, pafabis per sua mitraliosi kontre du soldati Jo=
rdaniana patrolianta ibe e serioze vundabis li. La quar kondamnesis ad en-k=
arcerigo dek-yara, la du altra kondamnesis ad en-karcerigi kin-yara ed un-y=
ara.
    • 

  • 2014-01-20 | 2 456 678 | 142 145 SA    | Dum k=
e jihadisti suportata da Arabia Saudia e jihadisti suportata da Turkia inte=
r-kombatis, du bombi automobilal ocidis adminime dekesis homi en posteno te=
nata da jihadisti Siriana an la frontiero di Turkia.
    • 

  • 2014-01-22 | =
2 456 680 | 142 034 IN-DL | Judiciisto di Dill=C4=AB imperis inquestar la m=
orto di Sunanda Pushkar, la spozino di Shashi Tharoor, sub-ministrulo di de=
velopado di provizuri homal Indiana.
    • 



htt=
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Kara Loïc, danko pro vua intereso!
 

 2 456 671 esas dato Juliana - la maxim neutra kalendario dil mondo (segun mea opiniono). La 1ma di januaro 4713 a. K. esis la dio 0, la 14ma di septembro 763 esis la dio 2 000 000, la 31ma di agosto 2132 esos la dio 2 500 000 edc.
 142 esas *kodo di Azia e 145 esas kodo di west-Azia segun UN M.49, sistemo di *kodi di regioni segun la Nacioni Unionita: http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49regin.htm
JO esas *kodo di Jordania. Omna landi havas tala kodo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1
 

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Ye ca dio, 1 februaro...


1327. Edward 3ma esis kronizata kom rejulo di An=
glia, evante 14 yari, en Westminster-abadeyo. Il divenis rejo pos ke rejulo=
 Edward 2ma (ilua patro), qua esis egardata kom nekompetenta monarko, koakt=
ate abdikis (kelka monati ante ke il esis ocidata) ye 25 januaro di ca yaro=
. Roger Mortimer, la amoranto di ilua matro, esis quaza regnanto til 1330, =
kande Edward 3ma asertis sua povo: Mortimer, akuzita pro diversa grava mal-=
konduti, esis exekutata. Edward regnis til morto en 1377; dum ca longa regn=
o il facis sucesoza exterlanda militarala kampanii.

1896. La opero "La Boh=
=E8me" da Giacomo Puccini, esis unesmafoye pleata, en la Teatro Regio en To=
rino, direktata da Arturo Toscanini. La evento esis sucesoza; la verko esis=
 balde pleata da operala
kompanii en Italia ed altra landi. La fonto di la =
rakonto esis "Sc=E8nes de la vie de boh=E8me" da Henri Murger, kolekturo de=
 rakonti pri vivado en la "Quartier latin" de Paris en la 1840-yardeko; ank=
e utiligata esis la dramato=A0"La Vie de la boh=E8me", da=A0Murger e dramat=
isto Th=E9odore Barri=E8re; tamen multo en la opero esis originala.

1944. =
La piktisto Piet Mondrian mortis, evante 71 yari, en Nova-York. Il naskis e=
n Amersfoort en Nederlando; de 1892 il studiis en arto-akademio en Amsterda=
m. =A0Dum kurta periodo de 1911 ilua pikturi esis influata da Kubismo; plu =
tarde oli divenis plu abstrakturala. De 1918 il rezidis en Paris, ube ilua =
verki divenis tipala di ilua matura stilo. Il esis parto di la movado "De S=
tijl",=A0fondita da la piktisto Theo van Doesburg,=A0qua kredis ke naturala=
 formi obskurigas pura realeso. Mondrian translojis a London en 1938 ed a N=
ova-York en 1940, ube il havis studieyo en Manhattan.

Kordiale DGW

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Ye ca dio, 1 februaro...

1327. Edward 3ma esis kronizata kom rejulo =
di Anglia, evante 14 yari, en Westminster-abadeyo. Il divenis rejo pos ke r=
ejulo Edward 2ma (ilua patro), qua esis egardata kom nekompetenta
 monarko,=
 koaktate abdikis (kelka monati ante ke il esis ocidata) ye 25 januaro di c=
a yaro. Roger Mortimer, la amoranto di ilua matro, esis quaza regnanto til =
1330, kande Edward 3ma asertis sua povo: Mortimer, akuzita pro diversa grav=
a mal-konduti, esis exekutata. Edward regnis til morto en 1377; dum ca long=
a regno il facis sucesoza exterlanda militarala kampanii.
1896. La opero "La Boh=E8me" da Giacomo Pucci=
ni, esis unesmafoye pleata, en la Teatro Regio en Torino, direktata da Artu=
ro Toscanini. La evento
 esis sucesoza; la verko esis balde pleata da opera=
la
kompanii en Italia ed altra landi. La fonto=
 di la rakonto esis "Sc=E8nes de la vie de boh=E8me" da Henri Murger, kolek=
turo de rakonti pri vivado en la "Quartier latin" de Paris en la 1840-yarde=
ko; anke utiligata esis la dramato "La Vie de la boh=E8me", da&=
nbsp;Murger e dramatisto Th=E9odore=
 Barri=E8re; tamen multo en la opero
 esis
 originala.
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1944. La piktisto Piet Mondrian mortis, evante 71 ya=
ri, en Nova-York. Il naskis en Amersfoort en Nederlando; de 1892 il studiis=
 en arto-akademio en Amsterdam.  Dum kurta periodo de 1911 ilua piktur=
i esis influata da Kubismo; plu tarde oli divenis plu abstrakturala. De 191=
8 il rezidis en Paris, ube ilua verki divenis tipala di ilua matura stilo. =
Il esis parto di la movado "De Stijl", fondita da la piktisto T=
heo van Doesburg, qua kredis=
 ke naturala formi obskurigas pura realeso. Mondrian translojis a London en=
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Kordiale DGW
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Jesu de Nazaret, pos baptesir, ekirabis la rivero, e me quik marcheskis dop ilu, pos adeir la Baptisto: 
--Adeo, Jan! Me devas akompanar Jesu. Paco kun tu, amiko! 
--Irez! Irez kun ilu! Mea tempo hike finabas --Jan respondis. 
  
Kande me atingis la rivo, e Jesu, e la blanka kolombo sur ilua shultro, me advokis ilta, qua durabis marchar senhalte:
--He, Jesu! Vartez, me pregas! Ka tu ne memoras pri me? 
--Ho, yes! Me bone memoras pri tu. Quale’ obliviar tua voco! --klamis ilu, pos haltar, su turnar ed atencar mea kapo.
--Me esas hike por akompanar tu irga-loke, ube tu iros, Jesu. 
--Me regretas lo, Partakael, ma nulu darfas akompanar me nun, nam me devas duktesar da la Spirito aden la dezerto, ube me, sole, fastos dum `quardek’ jorni e ‘quardek’ nokti… Pos mea retroveno, me volunte invitos tu akompanar me. 
--Ho, no! E quon me agos hike, sole, dum ta longa tempo? Me havas nulo: nek vesti, nek manjajo, nek pekunio, nek amiki… Quon me agos hike til tua retroveno? --me plendis. 
--Irez en la vilajo Betania e querez ula Lazaro ed ilua fratini, Marta e Mariya. Tu ya povos sejornar ibe, che li, dum mea tota absenteso --Jesu dicis. 
--Ka vere? Danko, Jesu! Nur un plusa kozo, me pregas! Ka tu povas helpar me obtenar vesto e sandali? Me sucesos irar nula-loke, se me restos apen kalsonizita e sen-shua. 

Lore, semblis a me, ke l’ blanka kolombo desquieteskis e regardis me okul-angule, ma Jesu respondis a me jentile: 
--Trairez ita voyeto ad-supre ed enirez la duesma domo, quan tu renkontros. Ibe tu trovos omno quon tu bezonas. 
--Ho, danko! Danko, Jesu! Me ne plus jenos tu. Bon voyajo e bon fasto! Adeo, Jesu! Adeo, Spirito! --me audace klamis, dum regardar simpatioze la blanka kolombo. 
--Irez kun Deo, Partakael! Voluntez salutar meanome Lazaro ed ilua familio! --Jesu adeis me. 
  
“Ho! Quante multe e quante rapide kreskabas ica homo!”, me pensis, dum vidar forirar la Nazaretano. “Semblas a me renkontrir ilu hodie, kande il evis 12 yari, e yen ke, nun, apen kelke plu tarde por me, il divenis adminime 30-yara, me konjektas. Forsan, ita pasinta 18 yari esis longa por ilu, ma, mealatere, me havas l’impreso transirir oli dum no plus kam 18 minuti, ve! Ho, tempo!”, me duris pensar. 


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Ye ca dio, 8 februaro...

1829. La skribisto Jules Verne naskis, en Nantes,=
 Francia. Il komencis skribar dum yuneso. En 1847 ilua patro, qua esis legi=
sto, sendis Jules a Paris por legala studiadi; en Paris il renkontris skrib=
isti e dramatisti, quo iniciis ilua kariero kom skribisto. Ilua unesma roma=
no esis "Cinq Semaines en Ballon", qua aparis en 1863. "Voyage au centre de=
 la Terre" aparis en 1864; il duris reguloze produktar romani di aventuri, =
kun ciencala temi, dum sua vivo.=A0

1974. La lasta homi qui vizitis Skylab=
, la unesma spaco-staciono di Usa, retrovenis a Tero. Skylab lansesis sen h=
omi ye 14 mayo 1973; la skopo esis facar diversa ciencala experimenti, inkl=
uzante observadi di la suno. La unesma grupo de homi vizitis la staciono de=
 mayo til junio di ta yaro; la triesma e lasta grupo, tri homi, iris a Skyl=
ab en novembro. Li facis diversa taski, inkluzante observadi di la kometo K=
ohoutek. La intenco esis sendar plusa homi per Space-Shuttle; tamen la Spac=
e-Shuttle-projeto esis tardigata, e Skylab esis ne pluse utiligata ante ke =
ol ri-eniris terala atmosfero en 1979.=A0

1983. En Australia, polvo-sturmo=
 eventis en Melbourne: ye cirkume 15.00 kloki, granda nubo de polvo advenis=
 e kovris la urbo Melbourne en la stato Victoria. Videbleso esis cirkume 10=
0m, e la aeroportui dil urbo esis klozata; ventegi e polvo domajis la elekt=
rikala dissendo-sistemo; strukturi ed arbori esis domajata pro forta vento-=
frapi. La polvo venis de agrokultivale richa regiono di westala Victoria, q=
ua perdis cirkume 3,7 mil tuni de surfacala sulo. Ca sulo, sika pro longa p=
eriodo sen pluvo en ca regiono, esis forprenata da forta norda venti, ed es=
is portata vers la esto.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 8 februaro...

1829. La skribisto Jules Verne nas=
kis, en Nantes, Francia. Il komencis skribar dum yuneso. En 1847 ilua patro=
, qua esis legisto, sendis Jules a Paris por legala studiadi; en Paris il r=
enkontris skribisti e dramatisti, quo iniciis ilua kariero
 kom skribisto. =
Ilua unesma romano esis "Cinq Semaines en Ballon", qua aparis en 1863. "Voy=
age au centre de la Terre" aparis en 1864; il duris reguloze produktar roma=
ni di aventuri, kun ciencala temi, dum sua vivo. 

1974=
. La lasta homi qui vizitis Skylab, la unesma spaco-staciono di Usa, retrov=
enis a Tero. Skylab lansesis sen homi ye 14 mayo 1973; la skopo esis facar =
diversa ciencala experimenti, inkluzante observadi di la suno. La unesma gr=
upo de homi vizitis la staciono de mayo til junio di ta yaro; la triesma e =
lasta grupo, tri homi, iris a Skylab en novembro. Li facis diversa taski, i=
nkluzante observadi di la kometo Kohoutek. La intenco esis sendar plusa hom=
i per Space-Shuttle; tamen la Space-Shuttle-projeto esis tardigata, e Skyla=
b esis ne pluse utiligata ante ke ol ri-eniris terala atmosfero en 1979.&nb=
sp;

1983. En Australia, p=
olvo-sturmo eventis en Melbourne: ye cirkume 15.00 kloki, granda nubo de po=
lvo advenis e kovris la urbo Melbourne en la stato Victoria. Videbleso esis=
 cirkume 100m, e la aeroportui dil urbo esis klozata; ventegi e polvo domaj=
is la elektrikala dissendo-sistemo; strukturi ed arbori esis
 domajata pro =
forta vento-frapi. La polvo venis de agrokultivale richa regiono di westala=
 Victoria, qua perdis cirkume 3,7 mil tuni de surfacala sulo. Ca sulo, sika=
 pro longa periodo sen pluvo en ca regiono, esis forprenata da forta norda =
venti, ed esis portata vers la esto.

Kordiale DGW

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Kara gesamideani!

La chefa aranjero dil internaciona Idorenkontro 2014, Lo=
ic Landais, tri dii ante nun antencigis me ad importanta suplemento koncern=
e la invito a la internaciona Idorenkontro 2014 en Paris.

Lu rekomendas ad=
 omna interesati rezervar e prepagar dormo-chambri che la CISP KELLERMANN t=
il maxim tarde la fino di februaro 2014.

Sube la modifikita ULI-komunikajo=
, qua regretinde ne publikigesis da ULI ipsa til nun per la Idoforumi che Y=
ahoogroups.

Kordiala saluti a vi omna
Frank Kasper

Frank Kasper
Postfach =
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ULI-komunikajo:


L'INTERNACIONA IDO-RENKONTRO 2014 organizata =
da ULI eventos en PARIS inter la 13ma e 20ma di julio.



Rezervez nun vua =
dormo-chambri maxim rapide posibla ante februaro-fino !

 
On povas pre-rez=
ervar dormo-chambri direte al Internaciona Sejorno-Centro KELLERMANN di PAR=
IS per olua formulario:

 
http://www.cisp.fr/cisp/pages/home-11.html

 
Ti=
 qui preferas pre-rezervar per mediaco dil asociuro Ido-France povas uzar l=
a sequanta formulario:

 
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La temo dil Internaciona Ido-renkon=
tro esas la vivo e la verko di Louis Couturat.



Detaloza programo di kuns=
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Kara gesamideani!

La chefa aranjero dil internaciona Id=
orenkontro 2014, Loic Landais, tri dii ante nun antencigis me ad importanta=
 suplemento koncerne la invito a la internaciona Idorenkontro 2014 en Paris=
.

Lu rekomendas ad omna interesati rezervar e p=
repagar dormo-chambri che la CISP KELLERMANN til maxim tarde la fino di feb=
ruaro 2014.

Sube la modifikita ULI-komunikajo,=
 qua regretinde ne publikigesis da ULI ipsa til nun per la Idoforumi che Ya=
hoogroups.

Kordiala saluti a vi omna
Fra=
nk Kasper

Frank Kasper
Postfach 73 01 28
D- 90243=
 Nuernberg
Germania
telefonilo: +49911=
 9904930
faxilo: +49911 4778130810
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ULI-komunikajo:=


L'INTERNACIONA IDO-R=
ENKONTRO 2014 organizata da ULI eventos en PARIS inter la 13ma e 20ma di ju=
lio.

Rezervez nun vua dormo-ch=
ambri maxim rapid=
e posibla ante februaro-fino !
 =
;
On povas pre-rezervar dormo-chambri direte al Internaciona S=
ejorno-Centro KELLERMANN di PARIS per olua formulario:
 
http://ww=
w.cisp.fr/cisp/pages/home-11.html
 
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Ti qui preferas pre-rezerv=
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https://docs.google.com/=
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La temo dil Internaciona Ido-renkontro esas la=
 vivo e la verko di Louis Couturat.

=
Detaloza programo di kunsidi, viziti ed=
 exkursi precizigesos plu tarde, ma ne vartez ol por rezervar dormo-chambri=
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Kara samideani,
 
 me prizentas a vi hike mea projeto di la nova Dicionario Kompleta di la radiki.
 
 Me komencis la laboro por ica dicionario en la somero dil 2012, ma pose me interruptis, e recente me rikomencis ol por kompletigar la litero A. Entote, la laboro pri ca litero duris dum un monato e duimo cirkume. Me unionis la vorti dispersita en plura dicionarii, listi e listeti qui akumulesis dum la yari, plu exakte dum la yardeki. La laboro esis harda, nam granda quanto de vorti ne havis defino, e do me mustis furnisar defino por ta omna vorti, multi de qui esas tre teknikala vorti pri diversa cienci, precipue pri biologio, pri qua me havas poka savo. Pro to, me koaktesis facar vera studio e serchado, en dicionarii ed enciklopedii papera ed interretala, por skribar la defini bezonata.
 
 Nun, kun granda kontenteso, me povas prizentar al Idistaro l'unesma pagini di dicionario kompleta quan l'Idisti de longa tempo bezonas. Kompreneble la laboro mustas duror, por la litero B ed omna cetera literi.
 
 Intertempe me invitas vi irar ad ica pagino por deskargar la parto komencala:
  
 http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-a.html http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-a.html
  
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Kara samideani,
 
 me publikigis la listo kompleta di la nova vorti oficaligita en 2012:
 
 http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/nova-oficala-vorti.html http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/nova-oficala-vorti.html
 
 
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Pro quo *biocenoso vice *biocenozo? Nia pioniri preferis "z", ube to esis posibla.
 

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Kara Gabriel,
 
 on parolis ya pri ca kazo pasinta-yare. Lektez ica mesajo:
 
 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/idolisto/conversations/messages/23946 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/idolisto/conversations/messages/23946
 
 
 Kordiale,
 
 Tiberio
 



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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (15)  
 

 

Me marchis til la domo indikita da Jesu, ed ibe on donacis a me tuniko, sandali e kap-tuko; quankam to omna esabis ja uzata da ulu altra, adminime esis omno netigita e pasable  bone fitanta kun mea lora korpo, qua divenabis tote magra. 
  
Survoye al tre proxima vilajo Betania, me rimemoris pri mea olima voyajo e sejorno en la Santa Lando, nome la nuna Israel/Palestinia, kande me vizitabis Betania, e kande, dum serchar la sepulteyo di Lazaro, me mispensis arivir en la vilajo, kontre ke, fakte, me nur atingabis Abu Dis, vilajeto apud Betania… Lore, quoniam me renkontrabis nulu por questionar, me trairabis la suprajo di tre stranja loko, sorto di alta klozilo, qua abutis a granda pordo… Esis oldino ibe, e me questionis el pri l’ sepulteyo di Lazaro, ed el, maxim afable, invitis me enirar la domo, ed introduktis me ad altra oldino, a qua me repetis mea questiono… Subite, me komencis vidar oldini omna-loke, singlu plu olda kam l’antea, e lore, e nur lore, me komprenis ke me enirabis sorto di rezideyo por oldini… Ho! E me ibe, questionante e durante questionar pri sepulteyo! Tamen, ta mulieri, ultre informar me, ke me ne ja arivabas en Betanis, ma en apuda Abu Dis, tre jentile duktis me til enorma fenestro, ed invitis me admirar la ne-kredeble bela panoramo dil proxima urbo Jerusalem, kun olua orea kupolego kom chefa protagonisto. 
  
Lore, kande me tandem atingabis Betania, e proximeskabis al sepulteyo, yen ke viro en chara suvenir-vendeyo, ilqua gardis la klefo, akompanis me til la pordo dil olima tombo di Lazaro, e demandis de me pekunio por enirar ibe… Me quik dicis ad ilu, ke me ne darfas uzar pekunio por enirar sakra loko, e lore il acendis lumo ed invitis me decensar sole por vizitar la sepulteyo… Kande me retrovenis e retrodonis al viro la klefo, yen ke il invitis me komprar suveniro, qua nule esas sakra, ma me respondis ad ilu, ke me ne esas turisto, sed voyajero, e ke mea poka pekunio esas por kozi advere necesa, e ne por suveniri… Me ne povas evitar subridar nun, kande me konjektas, ke ta viro, maxim probable arabo, forsan pensis pri me: “Ho! Ica kerlo stranjera, sive esas Judo, sive esas plu Juda kam la Judi ipsa!”. 
  
 
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Kara samideani,
Progreso 357 (sept-dec 2013) esas dissendata. Me pregas pardono pro la tardeso. Numero 358 esas ja preparata por esar dissendata justa-tempe (pos du monati).
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
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Kara samideani,
 
Progreso 357 (sept-dec 2013) esas dissendata. Me pregas pardono pro la tardeso. Numero 358 esas ja preparata por esar dissendata justa-tempe (pos du monati).
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
 
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Ye 15 februaro...

1797. En Saxonia naskis Heinrich Steinweg, plu tarde fam=
oza kom piano-fabrikisto Henry Steinway. Il divenis karpentisto e havis int=
ereso pri konstruktar muzikala instrumenti, plu tarde specaligante su pri p=
iano-konstruktado. =A0Pos la politikala tumulto en Europa en 1848 il transl=
ojis, kun kin filiuli, a Nova-York, Usa, en 1850. En 1853 il establisis kom=
panio "Steinway & Sons". En 1855 il ganis supra premio ye la Industriala Fe=
rio di Nova-York por ula piano; =A0dum sequanta yari il ganis plusa premii =
en Europa.

1971. En Unionita Rejio, nova decimala monetaro-sistemo esis in=
troduktata. Ol remplacis la sistemo, qua durabis dum plura yarcenti, en qua=
 la pundo havis 20 "shilling", e singla "shilling" havis 12 "pence". En la =
nova sistemo la sama pundo havis 100 nova "pence". La ideo di decimala mone=
taro existis en la nonesma yarcento; la "florin", qua esis dekimo di pundo,=
 introduktesis en 1849 kom unesma pazo vers nova sistemo, ma la projeto ne =
esis sustenata. En 1961, specala komitato esis establisata por explorar la =
propozo, ed ol donis raporto en 1963; la sistemo adoptenda esis anuncata en=
 1966. Ula nova moneto-peci (5p e 10p) esis introduktata en 1968, ed altra =
(0,5p, 1p e 2p) en 1971.

1988. Usana fizikisto Richard Feynman mortis. Il =
naskis en 1918; il studiis ye la Instituto di Teknologio ye Massachusetts, =
e ye la universitato di Princeton. En 1940 il komencis laborar por la proje=
to por developo di la atomala bombo, ye Los Alamos en Nova-Mexikia. En 1965=
 il ganis Nobel-premio pro lua laboro pri quantumo-elektrodinamiko. Plu tar=
de en la vivo il esis membro di la komisitaro qua exploris la dizastro di S=
pace-Shuttle Challenger, qua explozis dum lanseso en januaro 1986. Dum ula =
prizentado di la komisitaro, il demonstris, per glacio ed aquo en glaso, ke=
 esencala ringatra klozilo divenis min elastika ye basa temperaturo, quo es=
is kauzo di falio dum lanseso di Challenger en kolda vetero.

Kordiale DGW
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1797. En Saxonia naskis Heinrich Steinweg, plu tarde fa=
moza kom piano-fabrikisto Henry Steinway. Il divenis
 karpentisto e havis i=
ntereso pri konstruktar muzikala instrumenti, plu tarde specaligante su pri=
 piano-konstruktado.  Pos la politikala tumulto en Europa en 1848 il t=
ranslojis, kun kin filiuli, a Nova-York, Usa, en 1850. En 1853 il establisi=
s kompanio "Steinway & Sons". En 1855 il ganis supra premio ye la Indus=
triala Ferio di Nova-York por ula piano;  dum sequanta yari il ganis p=
lusa premii en Europa.

1971. En Un=
ionita Rejio, nova decimala monetaro-sistemo esis introduktata. Ol remplaci=
s la sistemo, qua durabis dum plura yarcenti, en qua la pundo havis 20
 "sh=
illing", e singla "shilling" havis 12 "pence". En la nova sistemo la sama p=
undo havis 100 nova "pence". La ideo di decimala monetaro existis en la non=
esma yarcento; la "florin", qua esis dekimo di pundo, introduktesis en 1849=
 kom unesma pazo vers nova sistemo, ma la projeto ne esis sustenata. En 196=
1, specala komitato esis establisata por explorar la propozo, ed ol donis r=
aporto en 1963; la sistemo adoptenda esis anuncata en 1966. Ula nova moneto=
-peci (5p e 10p) esis introduktata en 19968, ed altra (0,5p, 1p e 2p) en 197=
1.

1988. Usana fizikisto Richard F=
eynman mortis. Il naskis en 1918; il studiis ye la Instituto di Teknologio =
ye Massachusetts, e ye la universitato di Princeton. En 1940 il komencis la=
borar por la projeto por developo di la atomala bombo, ye Los Alamos en Nov=
a-Mexikia. En 1965 il ganis Nobel-premio pro lua laboro pri quantumo-elektr=
odinamiko. Plu tarde en la vivo il esis membro di la komisitaro qua explori=
s la dizastro di Space-Shuttle Challenger, qua explozis dum lanseso en janu=
aro 1986.
 Dum ula prizentado di la komisitaro, il demonstris, per glacio e=
d aquo en glaso, ke esencala ringatra klozilo divenis min elastika ye basa =
temperaturo, quo esis kauzo di
 falio dum lanseso di Challenger en kolda
 v=
etero.

Kordiale DGW

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (16)  

 

 
Dum mea serchado dil domo di Lazaro ed ilua fratini, me povis ankor-foye konstatar, ke me duras ne nur komprenar, ma mem ‘parlar’ senprobleme la linguo Arameana, E pluse, me esis itere koncianta, ke mea sensi ‘devlopesabas’ e  pluboneskabas admaxime, e ke me advere kapablesas audar, vidar o flarar irgo, mem de tre fore. Ed altra-latere, mea marchado duris esar aparte lejera, quaze flotacanta… 
  
Quankam, quale skribite, me vizitabis Betania fine dil 20ma yarcento, me sucesis rikonocar nulo dil vilajeto, ne mem la zono dil domo di Lazaro, kande me tandem atingis ol… Omno esis absolute diferanta de to, quon me vidabis lore; tamen, esas perfekte komprenebla ke, pos 2000 yari, mem vilajeto povas transformesir til ne-rikonocebleso, ka ne? 
  
Segun semblo, me arivis che Lazaro maxim oportune, nam, kande me prizentis me ibe, omna tri gefrati esis enheme, e me aceptesis da mea hosti ne nur kun specal afableso, ma mem kun entuziasmo… Li quik questionis me senhalte pri Jesu e pri me ipsa… Li ya deziris saveskar omno pri irgo… E yen ke, certen-instante, Mariya, qua kelke tacabis ed esis aparte atencoze observanta mea vizajo dum ke me direktabis la okuli ad elua frati, subite klamis tote spontane: 

--He, frati, regardez! Il movas sua okuli quale Joroboam! 
--Ho, yes! --Marta e Lazaro konsentis, pos ke me regardis Mariya, qua lore adjuntis lo sequanta: 
--Tamen, Joroboam esas giboza, sordida e fola mendikero, kontre ke nia nova gasto aspektas advere tote normal, agreabla e kulturoza viro voyajera, ka ne? 
  
“Ka me normal? Ha, se vi sabus omno pri me!”, me pensis. E lore, me explikis a li omno relatanta mea danso okulal: ke ol nomizesas nistagmo, e ke me sempre asertas, ke ol esas optikal gracio, quan me havas denaske, kontre ke altri preferas kredar, ke ol esas defekto che mea okuli; fakte, yen ke olima specalisto asertabis, ke mea nistagmo esas kazo patologial muskulal… Tamen, me questionas me: pro quo, se mea vido-kapableso pluboneskis admaxime, me duris konservar mea kara nistagmo, quaze me bezonus ol por esar plene me ipsa? E me quik respondizas kelke humuroze mea jusa questiono: pro ke mea kara nistagmo esas optikal gracio, quan me devas ne perdar dum mea tota vivo, ve! 


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Kara Tiberio,

Segun la Raporto de Roze, la sequanta vorti esas ank oficial=
a:
aerotaktismo (decido 1962) [biol.] D Aerotaktismus, E a=EBrotaxis, F
a=
=E9rotactisme
aerotropismo (1962) [biol.] D Aerotropismus, E a=EBrotropism,=
 D a=E9rotropisme
akilodinio (1977) pat. D Achillodynie, E achillodyny, F a=
chillodynie
albuminoso (1961) patol. F albuminose
antikatalazo (1979) [biol=
.] D Antikatalase, EF anticatalase
apotezo (1977) arkit. D Apothesis, E apo=
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Kara Tiberio,

Segun la Raporto de Roze, la seq=
uanta vorti esas ank oficiala:
aerotaktismo (decido 1962) [biol.] D Aero=
taktismus, E a=EBrotaxis, F a=E9rotactisme
aerotropismo (1962) [biol.] D=
 Aerotropismus, E a=EBrotropism, D a=E9rotropisme


akilodinio (1977) pa=
t. D Achillodynie, E achillodyny, F achillodynie
albuminoso (1961) patol=
. F albuminose
antikatalazo (1979) [biol.] D Antikatalase, EF anticatala=
se
apotezo (1977) arkit. D Apothesis, E apothesis, F apoth=E8se


aut=
okroma (1977) fotogr. D autochromatish, farbenwiedergebend, E autochromatic=
, F autochromatique

Kordiale,
Jeff


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Kara Jeff,
 me dankas tu pro la remarkigo.
 Me savis ke esas ita vorti, ma me ne sucesabis trovar li. Nun me sucesabas trovar kelka de li en ula interretal vortari. Pro to, me jus adjuntis a la dicionario:
 aerotaktismo, aerotropismo, akilodinio ed apotezo.
 Pri la cetera tri vorti, me mustas dicar ke me serchis pluse, ma regretinde nulaloke povis trovar li.
 La problemo esas: quon ta vorti signifikas? Quale trovar justa defino? Kad ulu savas lo?
 Ta vorti trovesas mem ne en la wikipedio ed en la wikivortaro Angla, qui kontenas milioni de artikli.
 To eventas pro ke li esas tro teknikala vorti, qui normale ne trovesas en la dicionarii ed enciklopedii generala, ma nur en specala lexiki di la diversa faki di la cienco: fakte, se ni serchas li en la dicionarii di nia lingui, ni ne trovas li.
 Pro to, la questiono esas: se la dicionarii di la naturala lingui ne kontenas certena vorti tro teknikala (qui trovesas nur en specala lexiki), pro quo nia dicionario Idala devas kontenar li?
 Segun me, la dicionario generala ne necese devas kontenar tala vorti ma, por oli, specala lexiki povas preparesar da specalisti pri la diversa faki.
 Esas plu importanta ed utila, meaopinione, uzar la tempo por kolektar vorti plu ofte uzata e, do, plu necesa ed urjanta.
 Irgakaze, me duros serchar la maxim multa vorti posibla e preparar defini por oli.
 Me ankorfoye dankas tu pro la mesajo.
 Irga kunlaboro esas bonvenanta!
 Kordiale,
 Tiberio

 

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 Kara Tiberio,
 
Segun la Raporto de Roze, la sequanta vorti esas ank oficiala:
aerotaktismo (decido 1962) [biol.] D Aerotaktismus, E aërotaxis, F aérotactisme
aerotropismo (1962) [biol.] D Aerotropismus, E aërotropism, D aérotropisme
akilodinio (1977) pat. D Achillodynie, E achillodyny, F achillodynie
albuminoso (1961) patol. F albuminose
antikatalazo (1979) [biol.] D Antikatalase, EF anticatalase
apotezo (1977) arkit. D Apothesis, E apothesis, F apothèse
autokroma (1977) fotogr. D autochromatish, farbenwiedergebend, E autochromatic, F autochromatique


 Kordiale,
Jeff




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Hola, Hans!  Me ne savas ka tu ja trovis la Ido-gramatiko en la Persiana, quan tu esis serchanta. Che l' fako "Files" (Arkivi) dil grupo Ido-listo trovesas dokumento
titulizita "Persiana-Ido gramatiko", quan tu ipsa kargis ibe ye plura yari ante nun. Forsan mea pria info esos util a tu. Chao! 
 

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Me lektis ke Ido, kontree ad Esperanto, naskis sub la principo di reversibi=
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Quale on dicas to en Ido? Quale esas la defino di ta pr=
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Quale on dicas to en Ido? Quale esas la defino di ta pri=
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Me jus adjuntis nov arkivo che Idolisto nomizita Multilinguala vortaro pri =
kemio. Ol esas mikra vortaro enlistiganta kelka teknikala vorti rilate al k=
emio. Voluntez lektar ol ed dicar via opinioni.

Komprenende, ne esas tam b=
ona kom tala facita da Tiberio, me nur volis adjuntar nova listo di vorti p=
ri specala temo kom esas kemio. Konsiderez ol kom komenco di multilinguala =
e bazala vortaro.

Til!

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Me jus adjuntis nov arkivo che Idolisto nomizita Multilinguala vortaro pri kemio. Ol esas mikra vortaro enlistigan=
ta kelka teknikala vorti rilate al kemio. Voluntez lektar ol ed dicar via o=
pinioni.

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Komprenende, n=
e esas tam bona kom tala facita da Tiberio, me nur volis adjuntar nova list=
o
 di vorti pri specala temo kom esas kemio. Konsiderez ol kom komen=
co di multilinguala e bazala vortaro.

Til!

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Hola Partaka,
Certe, tua informajo esas tre utila! Povas esar ke me adkargi=
s ol, ma dum la yari ja chanjis diversa provizerii e ne plu povis ritrovar =
mea dokumenti. Danko!
Chao, saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
L=
a skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----=

Van : qualevistandas@yahoo.es
Datum : 19/02/2014 01:06
Aan : idolisto@yaho=
ogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] RE: Ido-gramatiko en la Persiana (Iran)
=
 
 
  
    
      
      
      
Hola, Hans! 
Me ne savas ka tu ja trovis l=
a Ido-gramatiko en la Persiana, quan tu esis serchanta. Che l' fako "Files"=
 (Arkivi) dil grupo Ido-listo trovesas dokumento titulizita "Persiana-Ido g=
ramatiko", quan tu ipsa kargis ibe ye plura yari ante nun. Forsan mea pria =
info esos util a tu. Chao! 
 (Partaka)
    
     
    
    

  
  
  

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Hola Partaka,
 
Certe, tua informajo esas tre=
 utila! Povas esar ke me adkargis ol, ma dum la yari ja chanjis diversa pro=
vizerii e ne plu povis ritrovar mea dokumenti. Danko!
 
Chao, saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
 
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B.=
 de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : qualevistandas@yahoo.=
es
Datum : 19/02/2014 01:06
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwe=
rp : [idolisto] RE: Ido-gramatiko en la Persiana (Iran)













=

 

 



    

      
      
      
Hola, Hans! 
Me ne savas ka tu ja trovi=
s la Ido-gramatiko en la Persiana, quan tu esis serchanta. Che l' fako "Fil=
es" (Arkivi) dil grupo Ido-listo trovesas dokumento titulizita "Persiana-Id=
o gramatiko", quan tu ipsa kargis ibe ye plura yari ante nun. Forsan mea pr=
ia info esos util a tu. Chao! 

 (Partaka=
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Kara Chabi,
Ol explikesas en mesajo 909 di Idolisto. Yen olua ligilo:
https=
://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/idolisto/conversations/messages/909
Saluti a=
mikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B=
. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : chabi1991@yahoo.es
Datum : 19=
/02/2014 09:59
Aan : IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com, idolisto@yahoogroups=
.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Principle of reversibility
 
 
  
    
      
 =
     
      
Me lektis ke Ido, kontree ad Esperanto, naskis sub la principo=
 di reversibility (en l'Angla).
Quale on dicas to en Ido? Quale esas la def=
ino di ta principo?
    
     
    
    

  
  
  

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Kara Chabi,
 
Ol explikesas en mesajo 909 di =
Idolisto. Yen olua ligilo:
 
&=
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Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen=

Amsterdam
--
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za)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : chabi1991@yahoo.es
Datum : =
19/02/2014 09:59
Aan : IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com, idolisto@yahoog=
roups.com
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Danko pro tua mesajo.

Me multe lernis kun ta expliko.



El Jueves 20 de f=
ebrero de 2014 22:30, "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl"  escribi=C3=B3:
 
=C2=A0 
Kara Chabi,
=C2=A0
Ol explikesas en mesaj=
o 909 di Idolisto. Yen olua ligilo:
=C2=A0
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/gro=
ups/idolisto/conversations/messages/909
=C2=A0
Saluti amikala,
=C2=A0
Hans =
Stuifbergen
Amsterdam

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)

----Origineel Bericht----
>Van : chabi1991@yahoo.es
>Datum : 19/02/2014 =
09:59
>Aan : IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com, idolisto@yahoogroups.com
>On=
derwerp : [idolisto] Principle of reversibility
>
>=C2=A0 
>Me lektis ke Id=
o, kontree ad Esperanto, naskis sub la principo di reversibility (en l'Angl=
a).
>
>
>Quale on dicas to en Ido? Quale esas la defino di ta principo?
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Danko pro tua mesajo.

Me multe lernis kun ta expliko.
 
 
 
 
 
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Kara Chabi,
 
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On 20/02/2014 23:30, jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl wrote:
> Kara Chabi,
> Ol explikesas en mesajo 909 di Idolisto. Yen olua ligilo:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/idolisto/conversations/messages/909
> Saluti amikala,
> Hans Stuifbergen
> Amsterdam
Saluti,

me ne konsentas pri la exempli citata en ta expliko.

En esperanto, la vorto "biciklo" esas sempre vehilo e ne la proceso 
biciklar. Por ca lasta, on uzas la vorto "biciklado". Kande on parolas 
pri "bona biciklo", esas tote klara pri quo on parolas.

Segun me, la klasika exemplo (brosi /kombi) esas plu apta komprenigar la 
problemo:

	Verbo
	Utensilo
	Agado
ESPERANTO
	brosi / kombi
	broso / kombilo
	brosado / komb(ad)o
IDO
	brosar / pektar
	brosilo / pektilo
	broso / pekto


On vidas ke en esperanto, ne posiblas komprenar − vidante la verbi 
"brosi" o "kombi" − kad on konstruktez la vorti qui indikas la utensili. 
Kad on facez derivado simpla (broso / kombo) o per sufixo (brosilo / 
kombilo) ? La gramatika karaktero di la radiko (verbo, substantivo od 
adjektivo) ne esas sempre evidenta per su. On bezonas kontexto. En Ido, 
ta karaktero esas (semblas ?) sempre evidenta, e on povas facile 
deskonstruktar vorto por ritrovar la radiko. Exemple: nomizar. La 
sufixso -iz- klare montras ke la radiko nom- esas substantiva. Se ol 
esus verba, on dicus "nomar". Ta posiblajo deskonstruktar la vorti esas 
la principo di renversebleso.

La opozita principo, sur qua esperanto bazizesas, nomesas "principo de 
neceso kaj sufiĉo ".

Me ne esas specialisto pri Ido, e me esperas ke me ne trahizis la ideo − 
irgakaze me parolas sub la kontrolo di la ido-listani qui certe riagos 
se me skribis stultaji :)

Bona jorno!
-- 
Christophe Chazarein
(Voluntez pardonar mea klaudikanta Ido…)

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On 20/02/2014 23:30,
      jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl wrote:

    

    

      
Kara Chabi,

      
 

      
Ol explikesas en mesajo 909 di Idolisto. Yen olua ligilo:

      
 

      
      
 

      
Saluti amikala,

      
 

      
Hans Stuifbergen

      
Amsterdam

    

    Saluti,

      

      me ne konsentas pri la exempli citata en ta expliko.

      

      En esperanto, la vorto "biciklo" esas sempre vehilo e ne la
      proceso biciklar. Por ca lasta, on uzas la vorto "biciklado".
      Kande on parolas pri "bona biciklo", esas tote klara pri quo on
      parolas.

      

      Segun me, la klasika exemplo (brosi /kombi) esas plu apta
      komprenigar la problemo:

    
    

      
        

          

          		
          Verbo

          		
          Utensilo

          		
          Agado

          		
        

        

          ESPERANTO

          		
          brosi / kombi

          		
          broso / kombilo

          		
          brosado / komb(ad)o

          		
        

        

          IDO

          		
          brosar / pektar

          		
          brosilo / pektilo

          		
          broso / pekto

          		
        

      
    

    

    On vidas ke en esperanto, ne posiblas komprenar − vidante la
    verbi "brosi" o "kombi" − kad on konstruktez la vorti qui indikas la
    utensili. Kad on facez derivado simpla (broso / kombo) o per sufixo
    (brosilo / kombilo) ? La gramatika karaktero di la radiko (verbo,
    substantivo od adjektivo) ne esas sempre evidenta per su. On bezonas
    kontexto. En Ido, ta karaktero esas (semblas ?) sempre evidenta, e
    on povas facile deskonstruktar vorto por ritrovar la radiko.
    Exemple: nomizar. La sufixso -iz- klare montras ke la radiko nom-
    esas substantiva. Se ol esus verba, on dicus "nomar". Ta posiblajo
    deskonstruktar la vorti esas la principo di renversebleso.

    

    La opozita principo, sur qua esperanto bazizesas, nomesas "principo
      de neceso kaj sufiĉo". 

    

    Me ne esas specialisto pri Ido, e me esperas ke me ne trahizis la
    ideo − irgakaze me parolas sub la kontrolo di la ido-listani qui
    certe riagos se me skribis stultaji :)

    

    Bona jorno!

    
-- 

      Christophe Chazarein

      (Voluntez pardonar mea klaudikanta Ido…)

  


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Ye ca dio, 22 februaro...

1857. En Hamburg, la fizikisto Heinrich Hertz na=
skis. En 1880 il kompletigis ciencala studii ye la universitato di Berlin, =
ed en 1883 il divenis akademiano di teoriala fiziko ye la universitato di K=
iel, plu tarde divenante profesoro en 1885 ye la universitato di Karlsruhe.=
 Il studiis elektromagnetala ondi: James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879) predicab=
is la existo di elektromagnetala ondi, qua movis ye la rapideso di lumo. He=
rtz facis experimenti en qua elektromagnetala ondi esis transmisata e recev=
ita, e konfirmis ke li movis ye la rapideso di lumo; tale konstatesis ke lu=
mo esas sorto di elektromagnetala ondo. Hertz mortis en 1894.

1903. La kom=
pozisto Hugo Wolf mortis, evante 42 yari. Il naskis en nuntempa Slovenia, e=
 pasis la plu multa di sua vivo en Wien. Il havis intereso pri muziko, e nu=
lo altra, de frua evo. Dumvive il sufris pro depreseso e chanji di humoro. =
Dum 1888 e 1889 il kompozis multo, precipue kansoni, ed en 1896 il kompozis=
 opero, "Der Corregidor", qua ne esis sucesoza. Il sufris pro sifiliso; en =
1897 esis lua lasta koncerto-aparo; pos 1899 il cesis kompozar, ed il eniri=
s azilo.

1997. La nasko di la mutono Dolly, la unesma animalo kreita de ce=
lulo de adulta mutono (t.e. el esis "clone"), esis anuncata. Dolly, qua nas=
kis ye 5 julio 1996, havis tri matri: un furnisis la ovo, un furnisis la DN=
A, e plusa mutono portis la embriono til parturo. La laboro facesis da la u=
niversitato di Edinburgh e la vicina Roslin-instituto, ube Dolly pasis sua =
vivo, produktante sis mutonyuni, til morto en 2003. Pose, "clone"-i di altr=
a mamiferi, inkluzante kavali e bovi, esis produktata.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 22 februaro...

1857. En Hamburg, la fizikis=
to Heinrich Hertz naskis. En 1880 il kompletigis ciencala studii ye la univ=
ersitato di Berlin, ed en 1883 il divenis akademiano di teoriala fiziko ye =
la universitato di Kiel, plu tarde divenante profesoro en 1885 ye la univer=
sitato di Karlsruhe. Il studiis elektromagnetala
 ondi: James Clerk Maxwell=
 (1831-1879) predicabis la existo di elektromagnetala ondi, qua movis ye la=
 rapideso di lumo. Hertz facis experimenti en qua elektromagnetala ondi esi=
s transmisata e recevita, e konfirmis ke li movis ye la rapideso di lumo; t=
ale konstatesis ke lumo esas sorto di elektromagnetala ondo. Hertz mortis e=
n 1894.

1903. La kompozisto Hugo Wolf mortis, evante=
 42 yari. Il naskis en nuntempa Slovenia, e pasis la plu multa di sua vivo =
en Wien. Il havis intereso pri muziko, e nulo altra, de frua evo. Dumvive i=
l sufris pro depreseso e chanji di humoro. Dum 1888 e 1889 il kompozis mult=
o, precipue kansoni, ed en 1896 il kompozis opero,
 "Der Corregidor",
 qua =
ne esis sucesoza. Il sufris pro sifiliso; en 1897 esis lua lasta koncerto-a=
paro; pos 1899 il cesis kompozar, ed il eniris azilo.

1997. La nasko di la mutono Dolly, la unesma animalo kreita de celulo d=
e adulta mutono (t.e. el esis "clone"), esis anuncata. Dolly, qua naskis ye=
 5 julio 1996, havis tri matri: un furnisis la ovo, un furnisis la DNA, e p=
lusa mutono portis la embriono til parturo. La laboro facesis da la univers=
itato di Edinburgh e la
 vicina Roslin-instituto, ube Dolly
 pasis sua vivo=
, produktante sis mutonyuni, til morto en 2003. Pose, "clone"-i di altra ma=
miferi, inkluzante kavali e bovi, esis produktata.

=
Kordiale DGW

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (17)  

 

 
Ja instalita che Lazaro, mea tempo ibe esis pasanta plu rapide kam expektite… Pos l’unesma dii, me kustumis ekirar la domo por exkursar, adminime dumjorne, ne nur en Jerusalem, ma anke en vicina vilajeti, e mem en Betlehem, ne tante proxima, kande certen-die me vekis e levis me tre frue por voyajar ad-ibe e retrovenar adheme ne tro tarde, justa-tempe por supear kun mea jentila hosti. 
  
Marta, la seniora fratino, sempre esis pronta preparar ed ofrar a me kelka manjaji por ke me povez exkursar senhungre dum la tota jorno… El singla-foye repetis, dum livrar a me la nutrivi: “Prenez! Prenez ico por manjar survoye!”… E singla-die, kande me retrovenis adheme felica, ma fatigita, ibe esis mea tri afabla hosti por donacar a me irgo, quon me bezonis, e por durar questionar me pri omno imaginebla, e mem ne-imaginebla. 
  
Mariya, la juniora fratino, esis aparte spontana, kurioza ed atencema, ed el ofte sidis ye mea pedi ed askoltis me kun boko apertita… Dume, yen ke Marta, kelka-foye grunante, aranjadis omno por la supeo… E Lazaro, *kuya sanesala stando semblis a me esar ne tro bona, kustumis questionar me ka me savas ulo pri lua futuro, e kad il vivos dum multa yari o kad ilua febla saneso, tandem, duktos il adentombeye. Me ya darfis revelar nulo a Lazaro, ma me adminime probis kalmigar il pri lua sucii. Nula problemo, Lazu! Ne sufrez! 
  
E yen ke, dum un de mea exkursi en l’urbo Jerusalem, qua esis plenigita per Romana soldati, me kandide probis acesar certena loko, segun semblo interdiktita, kande, subite, soldato haltigis me, e klamegis ante pulsar me violentoze: 

--He, tu! Ad-ube tu iras? Forirez de hike, hundacho!  
--He, tu! --me respondis iraceskanta, dum direte regardar ilua okuli--. Ma… quon tu facas, soldatacho? Quale tu audacas tale pulsegar ed insultar me? 
--Ma… quale!? Ka tu ‘parlas’ la Latina? Ube tu lernis mea linguo? --il questionis e quik chanjeskis sua atitudo vers me.  
--En la sama loko, ube me rafinite edukesis, e quan tu certe nul-tempe asistis --me dicis, sen sucesar kalmigar mea iraco. 
--He! Tu esas stranjera, ka ne? De ube tu venas? --il duris. 
--De Iberia, de Hispania citeriora, de “Tarraconensis”-areo, del urbo Valencia --me dicis por komprenigar ulo dal bestio. 
--Ho! Ka vere? E quon tu facas hike? Pro quo tu venis en ica damnita lando? 
--Ha, nur por promenar! E nun, me devas durigar mea promenado, ve! Jupitero tun protektez! --me respondis.
--Ho, stranjero! Vartez! Ne esez rankoroza e kelke restez kun me… Me multe tedas en ica landacho! --il adjuntis. 
Tamen, me ja marcheskabis, e me nur turnis mea kapo por adear la soldato per manuo-gesto, ma sen itere haltar. 
  
(Parenteze: me ipsa astonesis, kande me askoltis me uzar la Latina tote fluante… Ma… ube e kande me lernabis ol? Me nur savas ke, same kam eventabis kun la puera Jesu pri l’Arameana, jus askoltinte l’unesma plura vorti dal soldato, me quik esis kapabla komprenar e mem ‘parlar’ ilua linguo).   


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Kara Hans,

me atestas la recevo di Progreso qua atingis me 2 dii ante nun.

Amikale
Eberhard


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 Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero B di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-b.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio


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 Kara samideani,
 
 me prizentas a vi hike mea projeto di la nova Dicionario Kompleta di la radiki.
 
 Me komencis la laboro por ica dicionario en la somero dil 2012, ma pose me interruptis, e recente me rikomencis ol por kompletigar la litero A. Entote, la laboro pri ca litero duris dum un monato e duimo cirkume. Me unionis la vorti dispersita en plura dicionarii, listi e listeti qui akumulesis dum la yari, plu exakte dum la yardeki. La laboro esis harda, nam granda quanto de vorti ne havis defino, e do me mustis furnisar defino por ta omna vorti, multi de qui esas tre teknikala vorti pri diversa cienci, precipue pri biologio, pri qua me havas poka savo. Pro to, me koaktesis facar vera studio e serchado, en dicionarii ed enciklopedii papera ed interretala, por skribar la defini bezonata.
 
 Nun, kun granda kontenteso, me povas prizentar al Idistaro l'unesma pagini di dicionario kompleta quan l'Idisti de longa tempo bezonas. Kompreneble la laboro mustas duror, por la litero B ed omna cetera literi.
 
 Intertempe me invitas vi irar ad ica pagino por deskargar la parto komencala:
  
 http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-a.html
  
 Kordiale,
 
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Hola, Tiberio!  Se me juste komprenabas tua ideo, tu vizas pozar omna ofical Ido-vorti en nur un Dicionario Kompleta por ke, quik e facile, on povez trovar li
omna ensemble, ka ne? Ka lor kompletigar singla litero, tu povus enlistizar, enmesaje, qua konkreta vortin tu adjuntis exter olti qui aparas, ni dicez, en la
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Ye ca dio, 1 marto...

1565. La Braziliana urbo Rio de Janeiro fondesis, ed=
 ol esis nomizata "S=C3=A3o Sebasti=C3=A3o do Rio de Janeiro". La lora rejo=
 di Portugal esis Sebastian 1ma (qua regnis de 1557 til 1578); il naskis ye=
 20 januaro 1554, quo esis la festo-dio di Santa Sebastian. "Rio de Janeiro=
" esis la nomo di la Bayo di Guanabara, qua esis deskovrata da Portugalan e=
xploristi en januaro 1502. Pos la deskovro, nula koloniisti havis intereso =
pri la regiono til ke Franca koloniisti arivis en 1555; li esis ek-pulsata =
da Portugalani en 1563, qui konstruktis plura fortifikuri en la Bayo di Gua=
nabara. La nova urbo fondita en 1565 situesis ye la westa rivo di la bayo.
=

1810. La pianisto e kompozisto Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Chopin naskis, en =C5=BB=
elazowa Wola, 46 km weste de Warszawa. Ilua patro, qua esis amatora muzikan=
to, esis Franculo qua migrabis a Polonia en 1787. Sis monati pos la nasko, =
la familio translojis a Warszawa. Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric havis intereso pri muz=
iko de frua evo, e komencis koncertar evante sep yari. Il studiis ye la Kon=
servatorio di Warszawa de 1826 til 1829. La du piano-koncerto-peci, nuntemp=
e bone konocata, esis ambe kompozata en 1830; plu tarde en ta yaro il livis=
 Polonia, e nultempe retrovenis.

1936. En Usa, la Hoover-digo, konstruktit=
a de 1931 til 1936, esis transferata a la federala guvernado.=C2=A0Ol nomiz=
esis por Herbert Hoover, prezidanto di Usa de 1929 til 1933.=C2=A0=C2=A0Ol =
situesas en la ravinego di la Colorado-fluvio, ye la frontiero di Usana sta=
ti Arizona e Nevada. La ideo di tala projeto existis depos 1900; la skopo e=
sis preventar inundadi, furnisar irigacado, e produktar elektrala povo. Plu=
ra mil laboristo esis employata dum la konstruktado; =C2=A0la maximo esis 5=
251 en julio 1934. 112 morti relatis la konstruktado. La alteso di la digo =
esas 221m, e la konteneso esas 2.480.000 metro-kubi.

Kordiale DGW

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Ye ca dio, 1 marto...

1565. La Braziliana urbo Rio de Janeiro fondesis, =
ed ol esis nomizata "S=C3=A3o Sebasti=C3=A3o do Rio de Janeiro". La lora re=
jo di Portugal esis Sebastian 1ma (qua regnis de 1557 til 1578); il naskis =
ye 20 januaro 1554, quo esis la festo-dio di Santa
 Sebastian. "Rio de Jane=
iro" esis la nomo di la Bayo di Guanabara, qua esis deskovrata da Portugala=
n exploristi en januaro 1502. Pos la deskovro, nula koloniisti havis intere=
so pri la regiono til ke Franca koloniisti arivis en 1555; li esis ek-pulsa=
ta da Portugalani en 1563, qui konstruktis plura fortifikuri en la Bayo di =
Guanabara. La nova urbo fondita en 1565 situesis ye la westa rivo di la bay=
o.

=

1810. La pianisto e kompozisto =
Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Chopin naskis, en =C5=BBelazowa Wola, 46 km weste de War=
szawa. Ilua patro, qua esis amatora muzikanto, esis Franculo qua migrabis a=
 Polonia en 1787. Sis monati pos la nasko, la familio translojis a Warszawa=
. Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric havis intereso pri muziko de frua evo, e komencis konc=
ertar evante sep yari. Il studiis ye la Konservatorio di Warszawa de 1826 t=
il 1829. La du piano-koncerto-peci, nuntempe bone konocata, esis ambe kompo=
zata en 1830; plu tarde en ta yaro il livis Polonia, e nultempe retrovenis.=


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Kar amiki,

Hike vi povos trovar la tota listo di la verkaro da Louis Coutu=
rat,
publikigita en la Bibliografio di Ido da Tazio Carlevaro e Reinhard
Ha=
upenthal (1999). Tamen ica listo ne esas kompleta, nam Couturat
publikigis =
multa artikli en Franca revui nun apene acesebla ed editis sat
multa broshu=
reti en tre poka exempleri, quin il ne sempre enmerkatigis. Yen
do la listo=
, sat longa e detaloza. Me povos sendar ol kom Word-documento ad
irgu qua d=
emandos ol private.


Couturat

Beaufront, Louis de; Couturat, Louis; Hugon=
, P.D.: International-English
Dictionary. London. Pitman 1908. 22+230 p. [B=
IL: 5970; UB Frankfurt:
43/957].

Couturat

Beaufront, Louis de; Couturat, =
Louis: Dictionnaire Fran=C3=A7ais-International
par L. de B. et L.C. Paris:=
 Delagrave 1908. 240 p. (Suppl=C3=A9ment: 1911, 105
p.). [BIL: 6005; RH: 26=
/73].

Couturat

Beaufront, Louis de; Couturat, Louis: Dictionnaire Interna=
tional-Fran=C3=A7ais
avec une pr=C3=A9face de M. Otto Jespersen. Paris 1908=
: Delagrave. 16+211 p.
(Suppl=C3=A9ment: 1911, 24 p.). [BIL: 6005; IEMW: 70=
1.852-A].

Couturat

Beaufront, Louis de; Couturat, Louis; Hugon, P.D.: Eng=
lish-International
Dictionary. London 1908: Pitman. 14+270 p. [BIL: 5970].
=

Couturat

Beaufront, Louis de; Couturat, Louis; Thomann, Robert:
Deutsch-i=
nternationales W=C3=B6rterbuch von L.d.B., L.C. und Rob/ert/
Thomann. Stutt=
gart
1908: Franckh'sche Verlagshandlung. 376 p. [BIL: 6015; IEMW: 704.249-A=
; RH:
304/70]. (Supplement: L=C3=BCsslingen, 1911: Feder, Kurt).

Couturat
=

Beaufront, Louis de; Couturat, Louis; Thomann, Robert:
International-deuts=
ches W=C3=B6rterbuch von L. de B. und L. C., unter Mitarbeit
von Rob/ert/ T=
homann. Vorwort von Otto Jespersen. Stuttgart 1908: Franckh.
24+294 p. (Sup=
plement: 1911, L=C3=BCsslingen: Feder, Kurt). [BIL: 6029; IEMW:
704.250-A; =
RH].

Couturat

Ahlberg, P/er/: Internationell-Svensk Ordbok. Under medverk=
an av Dr. L.
Couturat och T.V. B=C3=A4ckstr=C3=B6m. F=C3=B6rord av Prof. Ot=
to Jespersen. Stockholm
1910: Stockholms V=C3=A4rldsspraksf=C3=B6rening. 19=
3 p. [BIL: 6075; CDELI: Li EW 18].

Couturat

Beaufront, Louis de; Couturat=
, Louis: Dictionnaire Fran=C3=A7ais-International
par L. de B. et L.C. Pari=
s: Delagrave 1908. 240 p. (Suppl=C3=A9ment: 1911, 105
p.). [BIL: 6005; RH: =
26/73].

Couturat

Beaufront, Louis de; Couturat, Louis: Dictionnaire Inter=
national-Fran=C3=A7ais
avec une pr=C3=A9face de M. Otto Jespersen. Paris 19=
08: Delagrave. 16+211 p.
(Suppl=C3=A9ment: 1911, 24 p.). [BIL: 6005; IEMW: =
701.852-A].

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Chalon, O.; Couturat, Louis: Rapport pr=C3=A9sent=C3=
=A9 au II Congr=C3=A8s Mondial des
Associations internationales. Bruxelles =
15-18 juin 1913. Uniono por la
Linguo Internaciona. 2 p.

Couturat

Beaufro=
nt, Louis de; Couturat, Louis: Dictionnaire fran=C3=A7ais-Ido. Paris
1915: =
Imp. Chaix. 12+588 p. [BIL: 6005; IEMW: 702.774-B].

Couturat Louis (1868-1=
914). Coulommiers /1915/: Imp. Brodard. 69 p. (RH:
22/73; IEMW: 702.622-B; =
BIL: 1779). (Bibliografio da L.C.: p. 63-69). (Kun
artikli da Benaerts, Rey=
mond, Lalande, L=C3=A9on, de Beaufront).

Couturat, L.; Khun J.F.: Jazyk me=
zin=C3=A1rodn=C3=AD. (Segun J.M. I-5/6; 1911).

Couturat, L/ouis/: Die inte=
rnationale Hilfssprache. Berlin 1902 (2ma ed.
1906): M=C3=B6ller & Borel. 3=
0 p. [BIL: 1073; RH: 361/70].

Couturat, Louis: A nemzetk=C3=B6zi szeg=C3=
=A9dnyelv. (Trad. Rados G.). Budapest 1907:
Franklin-Tarsulat. 27 p. [BIL: =
1083].

Couturat, Louis: A Plea for an International Language. London 1903:=

Henderson. 31 p. (2ma ed. 1905; 3ma ed. 1907). [BIL: 1074].

Couturat, Lou=
is: Bidrag til Belysning af Sp=C3=B8rgsmaalet om et Internationalt
Sprog. (=
Trad. Skeel-Gj=C3=B6rling). K=C3=B8benhavn 1905: Andr. Fred. H=C3=B8st & S=
=C3=B8n. 32
p. [BIL: 1079].

Couturat, Louis: Des rapports de la logique et=
 de la linguistique dans le
probl=C3=A8me de la L.I. Aparis en "Revue de M=
=C3=A9taphys. et de Morale", 1911, p.
509-516; anke en: "Atti del 4=C2=B0 C=
ongresso internazionale di filosofia". Bologna
1911 (2ma tomo p. 483-490): =
Formiggini. [BIL: 190].

Couturat, Louis: Doktoro Zamenhof e la Delegitaro.=
 D-ro Zamenhof reformisto.
de dokumenti inedita ed autentika publikigita e =
komentita da L.C. Paris
/1914/: Chaix. 56 p.

Couturat, Louis: D'une applic=
ation de la logique au probl=C3=A8me de la langue
internationale. Paris /19=
08/: Armand Colin. 12 p. [BIL: 189].

Couturat, Louis: Esperanto e Ido. Pla=
n de conf=C3=A9rence. Vincennes (Seine)
1910: La Langue auxiliaire. 16 p. (=
Extraktita de "La langue auxiliaire",
mar+apr 1910). [BIL: 5574; Stadtbibli=
othek N=C3=BCrnberg: A5416].

Couturat, Louis: Etude sur la d=C3=A9rivation=
 en Esperanto d=C3=A9di=C3=A9e =C3=A0 MM. les
membres du Comit=C3=A9 de la =
D=C3=A9l=C3=A9gation pour l'adoption d'une langue auxiliaire
internationale=
. Coulommiers 1907: Brodard. 77 p. [RH: 50/69]; 2ma ed.:
Couturat, Louis: E=
tude sur la d=C3=A9rivation dans la Langue internationale. Paris
1910: Dela=
grave. 99 p. [BIL: 1608; CDELI: Li EW 7; RH: 225/68].

Couturat, Louis: Int=
ernaciona matematikal lexiko en Ido, Germana, Angla,
Franca e Italiana. Int=
ernationales mathematisches Lexikon in Ido, Deutsch,
Englisch, Franz=C3=B6s=
isch und Italienisch. Jena /1910/: Gustav Fischer. 4+36 p.
[BIL: 6210; IEMW=
: 704.306-C].

Couturat, Louis: Klubo Progreso. Groupe parisien des Amis de=
 la Langue
internationale. Paris 1913. 4 p.

Couturat, Louis: La Logique de=
 Leibniz d'apr=C3=A8s des documents in=C3=A9dits. Paris
1901: F. Alcan. 14+=
608 p. [BIL: 78].

Couturat, Louis: La r=C3=A9forme justifi=C3=A9e. La Refo=
rmo justigata. Paris 1909:
Imp. Chaix. 55 p. (Extrakt. de la jurnalo "L'Esp=
=C3=A9rantiste" N=C2=B0 128-129
/jan-febr./ 1909). [BIL: 5573; UB Frankfurt=
: Oh11 1924/220].

Couturat, Louis: La v=C3=A9rit=C3=A9 sur l'Ido. Par L. C=
. /Paris 1912/: Soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 Anon.
des Imp. Wellhoff et Roche. 15 p. (=
Extrakto de "La Revue": 1er avril 1912).
[RH: 347/70].

Couturat, Louis: L'=
Abb=C3=A9 Peltier et l'Ido. Aux esperantistes catholiques.
/Paris 1910: Cha=
ix/. 8 p. [IEMW: 704.738-B; RH: 227/68].

Couturat, Louis: Le bluff esp=C3=
=A9rantiste. Paris 1914: Chaix. (2 tomi) 16 p.
(BIL: 5578; IEMW: 706.361-B)=
.

Couturat, Louis: Le choix d'une langue internationale. Paris 1909: Ed. d=
e
la Revue du Mois. 22+4 p. [RH: 327/70].

Couturat, Louis: L'esperanto com=
mercialis=C3=A9 ou les aveux de M. Bourlet.
Paris 1912: Chaix. 12 p. [BIL: =
5576].

Couturat, Louis: L'Ido devant la science. Lettre ouverte =C3=A0 M. =
Cotton. Paris
1912: Chaix. 20 p. [BIL: 5577; RH: 462/71].

Couturat, Louis:=
 L'Ido et l'Esperanto. Suite =C3=A0 l'Historique de la
D=C3=A9l=C3=A9gation=
. Paris 1911: Imp. Chaix. 4 p.

Couturat, Louis: L'Ido langue international=
e scientifique et technique.
Paris 1911: Imp. Chaix. 4 p.

Couturat, Louis:=
 O jazyce mezin=C3=A1rodn=C3=ADm. (Trad. F. Khun). II vyd=C3=A1n=C3=AD. Pra=
ha
1906: Leschingr. 35 p. [BIL: 1081; RH: 70/73].

Couturat, Louis: O j=E2=
=84=A2zyku mi=C3=AAdzynarodowym powszecnym. Trad. K.S. Lw=C3=B3w 1903:
Dybo=
wski. 47 p. [BIL: 1075; RH: 71/73].

Couturat, Louis: Opravdani Reformi. La=
 reformo justigata. Trad. Th. Kaneff.
Sofia 1911: Delagrave (?). [BIL: 5573=
].

Couturat, Louis: Opuscules et fragments in=C3=A9dits de Leibniz. Extrai=
ts des
manuscrits de la Biblioth=C3=A8que royale de Hanovre. Par L.C. Paris=
 1903:
Alcan. 14+683 p. [BIL: 79]. (Ried. Hildesheim 1966: Olms).

Couturat=
, Louis: Per la lingua internazionale. Coulommiers 1906: Imp. Paul
Brodard.=
 32 p. [BIL: 1080; IEMW: 704.307-B].

Couturat, Louis: Pour la langue auxil=
iaire neutre. Artiklo extraktita de la
"Revue internationale de l'enseignem=
ent" ("Ne peut pas =C3=AAtre mise dans le
commerce"). (Forsan ja 1909).

Co=
uturat, Louis: Pour la langue auxiliaire neutre. Par L.C. Paris 1909:
Libra=
irie g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rale de droit et de jurisprudence. 7 p. [RH: 334/70].

C=
outurat, Louis: Pour la langue internationale. Coulommiers 1901: Imp.
Broda=
rd. 30 p. (2ma ed. 1902; 3ma ed. 1903; 4ma ed. 1906). [BIL: 1071; RH:
710/8=
0].

Couturat, Louis: Pour la logique du langage. Paris 1913. Extraktita de=

"Bulletin de la Soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 fran=C3=A7aise de Philosophie", p. 135-1=
65.

Couturat, Louis: Pour l'Ido. Paris 1910: Alcan. 7 p. [RH: 341/70]. (Ex=
traktita
de la "Revue du Mois").

Couturat, Louis: Powszechny j=E2=84=A2zyk=
 medz. Lw=C3=B3w 1906: Dybowski. 48 p. [BIL:
1076].

Couturat, Louis: Pri u=
la pseudo-historio di Ido. Apendico a Progreso N=C2=B0 76
(aprilo 1914). 4 =
p.

Couturat, Louis: Qu'est-ce que l'Esperanto? /Paris 1914: Chaix/. [RH:
3=
40/70].

Couturat, Louis: Rapport sur les progr=C3=A8s de l'id=C3=A9e de la=
 langue
internationale. Gen=C3=A8ve 1904: K=C3=BCndig. 13 p. (Extrait de: C=
omptes rendus du
2e Congr=C3=A8s international de philosophie, 4-8 Sept. 19=
04: p. 355-366, 1905).
[BIL: 1077; RH: 273/72].

Couturat, Louis: Specimeni=
. ("Vivo ed agadi di Sokrates", T. Gumperz; "La
legi di l' kustumo", W. Jam=
es; "La valoro di la Cienco", H. Poincar=C3=A9).
/1909/. 16 p. [IEMW: 706.2=
82-B].

Couturat, Louis: Studyo pri la derivado en la linguo internaciona.
=
Traduction de l'auteur, 1ma edit. 1907; 2ma edit. Paris 1910: Delagrave. 88=

p. [IEMW: 705.426-A; CDELI: Li EW 86; RH: 226/68].

Couturat, Louis: Sur l=
a structure logique du langage. Paris 1912: Armand
Colin. (Extrakto unesme =
de "Revue de M=C3=A9taphysique et de Morale", p. 1-24;
pose de "Bulletin de=
 la Soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 fran=C3=A7aise de philosophie": s=C3=A9ance du 25
jan=
vier 1912, p. 47-84). (L' extraktajo, kun 38 pagini, aparis kun
diskutkontr=
ibuturi da Meillet, Vendryes, Lalande, Delacroix, Hal=C3=A9vy,
Lachelier, L=
=C3=A9vy-Bruhl, Parodi, Weber). Febr. 1912. [BIL 192].

Couturat, Louis: Un=
e application de la logique au probl=C3=A8me de la langue
internationale. A=
paris unesme en *Revue de M=C3=A9taphysique et de Morale*,
Paris 1908: pp. =
761-769; Pose en: Bericht =C3=BCber den 3.ten Internationalen
Kongress f=C3=
=BCr Philosophie. Heidelberg 1909: Winter. pp. 415-424. [BIL: 188].

Coutur=
at, Louis; Jespersen, Otto: Esperanto a Ido. D=C3=A9iny na=C3=9Ceho jazyka
=
(Otto Jespersen); Opr=C3=A1vn=C3=A9n=C3=A1 reforma Esperanta (Louis Coutura=
t). Trad. J.F.
Khun. Vych=C3=A1z=C3=AD v =C3=B7idenic=C3=ADch u Brna (Morav=
a) 1912: n=C3=A1kladem =E2=80=A1esk=C3=A9 federace p=C3=96=C3=A1tel
jazyka =
mezin=C3=A1rodn=C3=ADha. 32 p. [BIL: 5583].

Couturat, Louis; Jespersen, Ot=
to; Lorenz, Richard; Ostwald, Wilhelm;
Pfaundler, L. von: La langue interna=
tionale et la science. Consid=C3=A9rations
sur l'introduction de la langue =
internationale dans la science. (Trad.
Boubier). Par L.C. (ed altri). Paris=
 1909: Delagrave. 4+63 p. [BIL: 1100;
RH: 134/72].

Couturat, Louis; Jesper=
sen, Otto; Lorenz, Richard; Ostwald, Wilhelm;
Pfaundler, L. von: Weltsprach=
e und Wissenschaft. Gedanken =C3=BCber die
Einf=C3=BChrung der internationa=
len Hilfssprache in die Wissenschaft. Von L.C.
(ed altri). Jena 1909: Gusta=
v Fischer. 4+75 p. 2., durchsehene u. verm.
Auflage (2ma edit.) Jena 1913: =
Fischer, IV+153 p. [BIL: 1099; IEMW:
702.669-B.1,2].

Couturat, Louis; Jesp=
ersen, Otto; Lorenz, Richard; Ostwald, Wilhelm;
Pfaundler, L. von: Internat=
ional Language and Science. Considerations on
the Introduction of an Intern=
ational Language into Science. (Trad. Donnan).
London 1910: Constable. 6+87=
 p. [BIL: 1101].

Couturat, Louis; Jespersen, Otto; Lorenz, Richard; Ostwal=
d, Wilhelm;
Pfaundler, L. von: Mezhdunarodnyj jazyk i nauka. (Trad. S. =E2=
=80=A0ahotin). Odessa
1910: 6+77 p. [BIL: 1102].

Couturat, Louis; Jesperse=
n, Otto; Lorenz, Richard; Ostwald, Wilhelm;
Pfaundler, L. von: V=C3=A4rldss=
pr=C3=A5k och Vetenskap. Tankar om inf=C3=B6randet af det
internationella h=
j=C3=A4lpsspr=C3=A5ket i vetenskapen. Stockholm 1910: Jakob Bagges
S=C3=B6n=
ers. 4+68 p. [BIL: 1103; IEMW: 701.724-C].

Couturat, Louis; Leau, L/=C3=A9=
opold/: Internationale Hilfssprache. Deutsches
Hilfsb=C3=BCchlein. Stuttgar=
t 1908: Franckh. 28 p. [IEMW: 704.309-A].

Couturat, Louis; Leau, L=C3=A9op=
old: Compte rendu des travaux du Comit=C3=A9 (15-24
octobre 1907). Par les =
secr=C3=A9taires L.C. et L. Leau. D=C3=A9l=C3=A9gation pour
l'adoption d'un=
e langue auxiliaire internationale. Paris /Coulommiers/
1910: Imp. Brodard.=
 3+32 p. [BIL: 1707; RH].

Couturat, Louis; Leau, L=C3=A9opold: Conclusions=
 du rapport sur l'=C3=A9tat pr=C3=A9sent
de la question de la langue intern=
ationale, pr=C3=A9sent=C3=A9 au Comit=C3=A9 par L.C. et
L.L.: Coulommiers 1=
907 (2ma edit. 1910): Brodard. 31 p. [IEMW: 701.940-B;
BIL: 1708; RH: 24/73=
].

Couturat, Louis; Leau, L=C3=A9opold: Extraits de l'histoire de la langu=
e
universelle. Paris 1904: Hachette. VIII, 81 p. [BIL: 1768; RH: 91/78; IEM=
W:
704.312-B].

Couturat, Louis; Leau, L=C3=A9opold: Histoire de la langue =
universelle. Paris
1903: Hachette. 32+576 p. (2ma ed. 1907; riedit. Hildesh=
eim 1979: Olms. 686
p., kun =E2=80=9CLes nouvelles langues...=E2=80=9D). [B=
IL: 1767].

Couturat, Louis; Leau, L=C3=A9opold: Les nouvelles langues inte=
rnationales.
Suite =C3=A0 l'histoire de la langue universelle. Coulommies 1=
907: Brodard.
VIII, 110 p. (Riedit. Hildesheim 1979: Olms, kun =E2=80=9CHis=
toire de la langue
universelle=E2=80=9D). [BIL: 1768; RH: 14/73].

Couturat=
, pref.

Feder, Kurt: Grosses W=C3=B6rterbuch Deutsch-Ido. Prefaco da Louis=

Couturat. L=C3=B6sslingen
1919: Ido-Weltsprache-Verlag (Imp. Chaix). 18+82=
3 p. [BIL: 6034; RH: 55/70].

Couturat, red.

D=C3=A9l=C3=A9gation pour l'a=
doption d'une langue auxiliaire internationale: 35
cirkuleri. Paris 1901-19=
07: Imp. Michels. 127 p. [BIL: 1706].

Couturat, trad.

Epikteto: "Enkhirid=
ion" o manu-libro di Epikteto. Trad. da C.S. Pearson e
L. Couturat. Paris, =
London, Stuttgart 1909: Delagrave, Pitman, Franckh. 24
p. [BIL: 6152; IEMW:=
 702.806-A; RH: 153/69]. (Extraktita de la Triesma
Lektolibro).

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ibliografio di Ido da Tazio Carlevaro e Reinhard Haupenthal (1999). Tamen i=
ca listo ne esas kompleta, nam Couturat publikigis multa artikli en Franca =
revui nun apene acesebla ed editis=C2=A0sat multa broshureti en tre poka ex=
empleri, quin il ne sempre enmerkatigis. Yen do la listo, sat longa e detal=
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Couturat, L.; Khun J.F.: Jazyk mezin=C3=A1rodn=C3=AD.
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  (Segun J.M. I-5/6; 1911).

  


  
Couturat,
  L/ouis=
/: Die internationale Hilfssprache. Berlin 1902 (2ma ed. 1906): M=C3=B6ller=

  & Borel. 30 p. [BIL: 1073; RH: 361/70].

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: A Plea for an International Language. London 1903: Hen=
derson. 31 p. (2ma ed. 1905; 3ma ed. 1907). [BIL: =
1074].

  


  
Couturat, Louis: Bidrag til =
Belysning af
  Sp=C3=B8rgsmaalet om et Internationalt Sprog. (Trad. Skeel-G=
j=C3=B6rling). K=C3=B8benhavn 1905: Andr. Fred. H=
=C3=B8st &
  S=C3=B8n. 32 p. [BIL: 1079].

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: Des rapports de la logique et de la linguistiq=
ue dans le probl=C3=A8me de la L.I. Aparis en
  "Revue de M=C3=A9taphy=
s. et de Morale", 1911, p. 509-516; anke en:
  "Atti del 4=C2=B0 =
Congresso internazionale di filosofia". Bolog=
na 1911 (2ma tomo p. 483-490): Formiggini. [BIL: 190].=


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/td>


  
Couturat, Louis: Doktoro Zamenhof e la Delegitaro. D-ro Zamenhof reformisto.=C2=A0=
 de dokumenti inedita ed autentika
  publikigita e komentita =
da L.C. Paris /1914/: Chaix. 56 p.

  

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font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">
  
Couturat,
  Louis: D'une application de la logique au=
 probl=C3=A8me de la langue
  internationale. Paris /1908/: Armand Colin. 1=
2 p. [BIL: 189]. 

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: Espera=
nto e Ido. Plan de conf=C3=A9rence. Vincennes (Seine) 1910: La Langue
  aux=
iliaire. 16 p. (Extraktita de "La langue auxiliaire", mar+apr
  1=
910). [BIL: 5574;
  Stadtbibliothek N=C3=BCrnberg:=
 A5416].

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: Etude su=
r la d=C3=A9rivation en Esperanto d=C3=A9di=C3=A9e =C3=A0 MM. les membres d=
u
  Comit=C3=A9 de la D=C3=A9l=C3=A9gation pour l'adoption d'une la=
ngue auxiliaire
  internationale. Coulommiers 1907: Brodard. 77 p. [RH: 50/=
69]; 2ma ed.:
  Couturat, Louis: Etude sur la d=C3=A9rivation dans la Langu=
e internationale. Paris 1910: Delagrave. 99 p. [BI=
L: 1608; CDELI: Li EW 7; RH: 225/68].

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: Klubo Progreso. Groupe parisien des Amis de la L=
angue internationale.
  Paris 1913. 4 p.

  


  
=
Couturat=
,
  Louis: La Logique de Leibniz d'apr=C3=A8s des documents in=C3=A9dit=
s. Paris 1901: F.
  Alcan. 14+608 p. [BIL: 78].

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: La v=C3=A9rit=C3=A9 sur l'Ido. Par L. C. /Pa=
ris 1912/: Soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 Anon. des Imp.
  Wellhoff et Roche. 15 p. (Ext=
rakto de "La Revue": 1er avril 1912).
  [RH: 347/70]. 

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: L'Abb=C3=A9 Peltier et l'I=
do. Aux esperantistes catholiques. /Paris 1910:
  Chaix/. 8 p. [IEMW:
  704.738-B; RH: 227/68].

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: Le bluff esp=C3=A9rantiste. Paris 1914: Chaix. (2 to=
mi) 16 p. (BIL: 5578;
  IEMW: 706.361-B).

  


  
Coutura=
t,
  Louis: Le choix d'une langue internationale. Paris 1909: Ed. de la=
 Revue du
  Mois. 22+4 p. [RH: 327/70].

  


  
<=
span lang=3D"FR">Couturat,=

  Louis: L'esperanto commercialis=C3=A9 ou les aveux de M. Bourlet. Pa=
ris 1912:
  Chaix. 12 p. [BIL: 5576].

  


  
<=
span lang=3D"FR">Couturat,=

  Louis: L'Ido devant la
   science. Lettre ouverte =C3=A0 M. Cotton. =
Paris 1912: Chaix. 20
  p. [BIL: 5577; RH: 462/71]. 

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: L'Ido et l'Esperanto. Suite =C3=A0 l'His=
torique de la D=C3=A9l=C3=A9gation. Paris
  1911: Imp. Chaix. 4 p.

  

<=
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Couturat,
  Louis: L'Ido langue internationale scient=
ifique et technique. Paris 1911:
  Imp. Chaix. 4 p.

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: O jazyce mezin=C3=A1rodn=C3=ADm. (Trad. F. Khun). II vyd=C3=A1n=C3=AD. P=
raha 1906: Leschingr.
  35 p. [BIL: 1081; RH: 70/73].<=
/p>
  


  
Couturat, Louis: O j=E2=84=A2zyku mi=C3=AAdzynarodowym
  powszecnym. Trad. K.S. Lw=
=C3=B3w 1903: Dybowski. 47 p. [BIL: 1075; RH: 71/7=
3].

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: Opravdani Ref=
ormi. La reformo justigata. Trad.
  Th. Kaneff. So=
fia 1911: Delagrave (?). [BIL: 5573].

  =



  
Couturat,
  Louis: Opuscules et fragments in=C3=
=A9dits de Leibniz. Extraits des manuscrits de
  la Biblioth=C3=A8que royal=
e de Hanovre. Par L.C. Paris 1903: Alcan. 14+683 p=
. [BIL: 79]. (Ried. Hildesheim
  1966: Olms).

  


  
Couturat, Louis: Per la lingua
  internazionale. Coulommiers
  1906: Imp. Paul Brodard. 32=

  p. [BIL: 1080; IEMW: 704.307-B].

  


  
Coutur=
at,
  Louis: Pour la langue auxiliaire neutre. Artiklo extraktita de la &qu=
ot;Revue
  internationale de l'enseignement" ("Ne peut pas =
=C3=AAtre mise dans le
  commerce"). (Forsan ja 1909).
  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: Pour la langue auxiliaire neutre. Par L.C. Pa=
ris 1909: Librairie
  g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rale de droit et de jurisprudence. 7 p.=
 [RH: 334/70].

  


  
Couturat,
  Louis: Pour la l=
angue internationale. Coulommiers 1901:
  Imp. Bro=
dard. 30 p. (2ma ed. 1902; 3ma ed. 1903; 4ma ed. 1906). [BIL: 1071; RH: 710/80].

  


  
<=
span lang=3D"FR">Couturat,=

  Louis: Pour la logique du langage. Paris 1913. Extraktita de "Bulle=
tin
  de la Soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 fran=C3=A7aise de Philosophie", p. 135-1=
65.

  


  =

Couturat,
  Louis: Pour l'Ido. Paris
  1910: Alcan. 7 p. [RH: 341/70]. (Extraktita de la
   "Revue du Mois").

 =
 

  Couturat,
  Louis: Powszechny j=E2=84=A2zyk
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Amiko, kom omnatempe, me demandas helpo ad omni por editar, forsan mikr art=
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (18)  

 

 
Quankam me vizitis sat ofte l’urbo Jerusalem, me ne sucesis trovar ulo quo pensigus da me to quon me vidabis ibe, dum mea normal voyajo en la Santa Lando, eventinta ne tro multa tempo ante mea permenta voyajo… Dum tal normal sejorno en Israel/Palestinia, me memoras enirir l’Esplanado dil Moskei”, ed agar ulo quo joyigis me admaxime: omnu ibe deziris vizitar la konstrukturo sub la Orea Kupolo, la moskeo e plusa turistalaji… Dume, me trairis l’Esplanado ed atingis la parto dil murego, ube lokizesas la famoza Orea Pordego, qua restas klozita, e tra olqua, segun-dice, pasos la Mesio (la Mesio quan la Judi duras expektar), kande lu eniros Jerusalem… Me renkontris nulu survoye e, quankam me konjektis esar agonta ulo tote ne permisata, me audacis acensar petra eskalerereto, qua duktis me til la supra parto dil murego, e me regardis de ibe ad-extere… Ho! Qual forta emocon me sentis dum admirar la Monto dil Olivieri e konciar, ke me esas plasizita supre dil Orea Pordego e dil Monto dil Templo! Me restis ibe dum apen plura minuti, ma me sentis me advere rekompensata… Esis ibe mem matraco extensita en sorto di garito, qua, maxim probable, uzesus da sentinelo, ma, fortunoze, me renkontris nula sentinelo, ecepte me ipsa, qua juis admaxime mea sublima situeso. 
  
Esis pasinta un monato de pos mea unesma nokto che Lazaro… Mea hararo rikreskabis sur mea kapo, e mea pilaro sur mea cetera korpo, qua mem kelke bruneskabis… Mea vestaro pluboneskabis, danke ankor-foye la jenerozeso da mea hosti… E ta-die, me esis promenanta en Jerusalem, kande me decidis sideskar sur andoma sidilo roka… Pos kelka sekundi, yen ke yuna e bela muliero eniris la domo e, quik pose, el diskrete salutis me de apen mi-apertita pordo: 
  
--Hola, belo! Ka tu venas vizitar me? Ka me ja konocas tu? Ho, no! Se me konocabus tu, me ne obliviabus tua korpo! Venez kun me! Enirez! 
--Ha, no, danko! Me sidis nur por kelke repozar, ma… 
--Vartez, stranjero! Esas ya plu bona loki por repozar… Venez kun me, e me donos a tu plezuro e repozo! Enirez, e me garantias a tu plezuro per mea “Sodoma e Gomorra”! 
--Danko, ma nun me devas durigar mea voyo --me dicis, dum levar me por departar. 
--Vartez! Me esas bela! --el klamis, dum ke, per sua manuo kun ora braceleto, el sizis mea sinistra karpo por retenar me. 
--Ho, yes, me konsentas! Tre bela! --me agnoskis, kande me turnis ad el, ed admiris elua vizajo ed elua dextra mamo, qua subite aparabis avan mea okuli, me ne savas quale. 
--Do, quon tu vartas, viro? Enirez e konocez me tilfunde! Me deziregas konocar tu! --el adjuntis faligante sua vesto. 
--Tu vidos me, vidos me, ma tu ne konocos me --me kelke jokis ante forirar e forlasar la nuda belino senkonoce. 
--He, tu! Ka tu ne prizas mulieri? Me esas bela! --el klamis. 
--Ho, yes! E me esas Partakael. Juez maxim bona dio! Chao!     


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(segun sam-noma artiklo da Vladimír Wagner, http://www.osel.cz/index.php?clanek=7487 http://www.osel.cz/index.php?clanek=7487 )

Germania bezonas averaje sisadek gigawati de elektro-povo e maxime okadek gigawati. La problemo esas, ke la vetero ofte esas sama en la tota granda regiono e pro to elektrifeyi e sunal e vental en granda regioni kondutas quale un granda elektrifeyo. Por ke la tota elektro-povo esez provizata per fonti ri-novigebla en tempo, kande ventas ed esas nokto o nubi super la regiono, la elektro-povo di omna elektrifili vental sume mustas esar plu kam sisadek gigawati. Ed exakte con Germania intencas (hodie ol havas cirkum triadeketri gigawati). Altra posibla vetero esas, ke exemple en somero ne ventas, ma la suno brilas. Lore esas necesa havar plu kam sisadek gigawati en elektrifili sunal. Ton Germania anke intencas (hodie ol anke havas cirkum triadeketri gigawati). Ma eventas relative ofte e mem longa-tempe, exemple dum un semano, ke nek ventas nek la suno brilas. Exemple dum inverseso vintral. E super granda regiono inkluzanta granda parto di Europa. Por ica kazi Germania mustas havar surogato de fonti klasika. Pro ke ol interdiktis energio nukleara a su, devas esar fonti fosila.

Por omna necesa gigawato de elektro-povo do Germania mustas havar mem tri elektrifeyi diferanta vice un. Esas vera, ke anke en mixuro energial klasika on mustas havar surogato. Ma suficas havar surogato por un fonto kun la maxim granda elektro-povo. Ma en la sistemo Germaniana (ed anke Daniana) on mustas havar surogato por la tota elektro-povo necesa. Ca sistemo signifikas grandega eceso di elektro-povo. Kande ventas e la suno brilas, on povas havar plu kam trioplo de la elektro-povo necesa. Ed on ne savas, quon facar kun olu. Lore majoritato de la elektrifeyi funcionas vane, ma la elektrifeyi fosilal duras konsumar fueli fosila, pro ke se on ek-swichus oli, on ne povus sat rapide en-swichar oli en la kazo di chanjo di vetero. Ed on apene povas kredar, ke esos plu chipa sistemo, en qua por la sama quanto di elektro on mustas konstruktar tri elektrifeyi vice un, dum ke du ek oli, la sunal e la vental, ankore ne povas existar sen subvencioni di preco di kompro.

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Brave, Gabriel!
Danko e gratulo pro tua texto ed enrejistruro. Remarkinde bona voco ed achento.  

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Subject: Re: [idolisto] Kad energio-sistemo Europana povas dependar nur de
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Kara Gabriel,
Danko pro l'interesanta artiklo. Me askoltis ol, e malgre la =
forta slava acento, me komencas apreciar tre multe la damo qua lektas la te=
xti.
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esa=
s libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : svoboda.gabriel@=
centrum.cz
Datum : 04/03/2014 15:47
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwer=
p : [idolisto] Kad energio-sistemo Europana povas dependar nur de fonti ri-=
novigebla?
 
 
  
    
      
      
      
(segun sam-noma artiklo da Vlad=
im=C3=ADr Wagner, http://www.osel.cz/index.php?clanek=3D7487 )
Germania bez=
onas averaje sisadek gigawati de elektro-povo e maxime okadek gigawati. La =
problemo esas, ke la vetero ofte esas sama en la tota granda regiono e pro =
to elektrifeyi e sunal e vental en granda regioni kondutas quale un granda =
elektrifeyo. Por ke la tota elektro-povo esez provizata per fonti ri-novige=
bla en tempo, kande ventas ed esas nokto o nubi super la regiono, la elektr=
o-povo di omna elektrifili vental sume mustas esar plu kam sisadek gigawati=
. Ed exakte con Germania intencas (hodie ol havas cirkum triadeketri gigawa=
ti). Altra posibla vetero esas, ke exemple en somero ne ventas, ma la suno =
brilas. Lore esas necesa havar plu kam sisadek gigawati en elektrifili suna=
l. Ton Germania anke intencas (hodie ol anke havas cirkum triadeketri gigaw=
ati). Ma eventas relative ofte e mem longa-tempe, exemple dum un semano, ke=
 nek ventas nek la suno brilas. Exemple dum inverseso vintral. E super gran=
da regiono inkluzanta granda parto di Europa. Por ica kazi Germania mustas =
havar surogato de fonti klasika. Pro ke ol interdiktis energio nukleara a s=
u, devas esar fonti fosila.
Por omna necesa gigawato de elektro-povo do Ger=
mania mustas havar mem tri elektrifeyi diferanta vice un. Esas vera, ke ank=
e en mixuro energial klasika on mustas havar surogato. Ma suficas havar sur=
ogato por un fonto kun la maxim granda elektro-povo. Ma en la sistemo Germa=
niana (ed anke Daniana) on mustas havar surogato por la tota elektro-povo n=
ecesa. Ca sistemo signifikas grandega eceso di elektro-povo. Kande ventas e=
 la suno brilas, on povas havar plu kam trioplo de la elektro-povo necesa. =
Ed on ne savas, quon facar kun olu. Lore majoritato de la elektrifeyi funci=
onas vane, ma la elektrifeyi fosilal duras konsumar fueli fosila, pro ke se=
 on ek-swichus oli, on ne povus sat rapide en-swichar oli en la kazo di cha=
njo di vetero. Ed on apene povas kredar, ke esos plu chipa sistemo, en qua =
por la sama quanto di elektro on mustas konstruktar tri elektrifeyi vice un=
, dum ke du ek oli, la sunal e la vental, ankore ne povas existar sen subve=
ncioni di preco di kompro.
ASKOLTEZ SONA ENREJISTRURO: https://app.box.com/=
s/kgjgi408v2mvki9s97si
    
     
    
    

  
  
  

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Kara Gabriel,
 
Danko pro l'interesanta artik=
lo. Me askoltis ol, e malgre la forta slava acento, me komencas apreciar tr=
e multe la damo qua lektas la texti.
 
Saluti amik=
ala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
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po di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht---=
-
Van : svoboda.gabriel@centrum.czDatum : 04/03/2014 15:47
Aan : =
idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Kad energio-sistemo Euro=
pana povas dependar nur de fonti ri-novigebla?














 

 



    

     =
 
      
      
(segun sam-noma artiklo da Vladim=C3=ADr Wagner, http://www.osel.cz/index.php?clanek=3D7487 )

Germania be=
zonas averaje sisadek gigawati de elektro-povo e maxime okadek gigawati. La=
 problemo esas, ke la vetero ofte esas sama en la tota granda regiono e pro=
 to elektrifeyi e sunal e vental en granda regioni kondutas quale un granda=
 elektrifeyo. Por ke la tota elektro-povo esez provizata per fonti ri-novig=
ebla en tempo, kande ventas ed esas nokto o nubi super la regiono, la elekt=
ro-povo di omna elektrifili vental sume mustas esar plu kam sisadek gigawat=
i. Ed exakte con Germania intencas (hodie ol havas cirkum triadeketri gigaw=
ati). Altra posibla vetero esas, ke exemple en somero ne ventas, ma la suno=
 brilas. Lore esas necesa havar plu kam sisadek gigawati en elektrifili sun=
al. Ton Germania anke intencas (hodie ol anke havas cirkum triadeketri giga=
wati). Ma eventas relative ofte e mem longa-tempe, exemple dum un semano, k=
e nek ventas nek la suno brilas. Exemple dum inverseso vintral. E super gra=
nda regiono inkluzanta granda parto di Europa. Por ica kazi Germania mustas=
 havar surogato de fonti klasika. Pro ke ol interdiktis energio nukleara a =
su, devas esar fonti fosila.

Por omna necesa gigawato de elektro-pov=
o do Germania mustas havar mem tri elektrifeyi diferanta vice un. Esas vera=
, ke anke en mixuro energial klasika on mustas havar surogato. Ma suficas h=
avar surogato por un fonto kun la maxim granda elektro-povo. Ma en la siste=
mo Germaniana (ed anke Daniana) on mustas havar surogato por la tota elektr=
o-povo necesa. Ca sistemo signifikas grandega eceso di elektro-povo. Kande =
ventas e la suno brilas, on povas havar plu kam trioplo de la elektro-povo =
necesa. Ed on ne savas, quon facar kun olu. Lore majoritato de la elektrife=
yi funcionas vane, ma la elektrifeyi fosilal duras konsumar fueli fosila, p=
ro ke se on ek-swichus oli, on ne povus sat rapide en-swichar oli en la kaz=
o di chanjo di vetero. Ed on apene povas kredar, ke esos plu chipa sistemo,=
 en qua por la sama quanto di elektro on mustas konstruktar tri elektrifeyi=
 vice un, dum ke du ek oli, la sunal e la vental, ankore ne povas existar s=
en subvencioni di preco di kompro.

ASKOLTEZ SONA ENREJISTRURO: https://app.box.com/s/kgjgi408v2mvki9s97si


    

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Ye ca dio, 8 marto...

1817. La Borso di Nova-York esis apertata; statuti e=
sis redaktata di organizuro nomizata "New York Stock & Exchange Board". La =
unesma prezidanto di la borso, Anthony Stockholm, esis elektata. Olua origi=
no esis en 1792, kande 24 bors-agenti signatis konkordo ye Wall-strado en M=
anhattan, Nova-York. La borso situesis en chambro, lokacata depos 1792, ye =
40 Wall-strado, til ke ol esis destruktata en la Granda Fairo di Nova-York =
en 1835.

1902. En Helsinki, la simfonio no. 2 da Jean Sibelius esis unesma=
foye pleata, direktate da la kompozisto. Kompozado di ca verko komencis en =
vintro di 1901 en Italia, ed ol esis kompletigata en Finlando. La simfonio =
havas grandioza finala movimento, qua, segun supozajo di kelki, relatas la =
deziro di nedependeso di Finlando. La lando esis parto di la Rusa imperio; =
nedependeso esis proklamata en 1917.

1974. La Charles de Gaulle-aeroportuo=
 esis apertata. La konstruktado di la aerportuo, 25 km nord-este de Paris, =
komencis en 1966. Termino 1, qua existis de la aperto, havas ronda edifico =
di dek etaji, kun sep satelitala strukturi konektata a la centrala struktur=
o per sub-tera pedovoyi; la arkitekto esis Paul Andreu. Nuntempe esas tri t=
ermini. Ol esas la maxim granda aeroportuo en Francia. En 2012 ol esis la s=
epesma aeroportuo en la mondo, egarde nombri di voyajanti e aeroplano-trafi=
ko.

Kordiale DGW
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n 1792, kande 24 bors-agenti signatis konkordo ye Wall-strado en Manhattan,=
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901 en Italia, ed ol esis kompletigata en Finlando. La simfonio havas grand=
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edependeso di Finlando. La lando esis parto di la Rusa imperio; nedependeso=
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1974. La Charles de Gaulle-aeroportuo=
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komencis en 1966. Termino 1, qua existis de la aperto, havas ronda
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ro per sub-tera pedovoyi; la arkitekto esis Paul Andreu. Nuntempe esas tri =
termini. Ol esas la maxim granda aeroportuo en Francia. En 2012 ol esis la =
sepesma aeroportuo en la mondo, egarde nombri di voyajanti e aeroplano-traf=
iko.

Kordiale DGW

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (19)  

 

 
Tamen, me devas agnoskar ke, pos mea kurta ma intensa renkontro kun ta yuna e bela prostitucatino, elqua ne esabis advere tam diskreta e prudenta kam el unesme semblabis a me, me ne cesis pensar pri quo esus la mencionita specalajo sexual, nome “Sodoma e Gomorra”, pri olqua me nul-tempe audabis. Me kuriozeskis por saveskar kad ol relatas nura sodomio, o kad ol esas ulo tote diferanta ed original. E yen ke, mem sen previdir lo, mea penso duktis me al raporto Biblal pri Sodoma e Gomorra ed olia debochera habitantaro. 
  
Segun semblo, ibe, omnu esis sexu-avida tilextreme, ecepte nevulo di patriarko Abraham, nome Lot, ed ilua tota familio. Lore, Deo decidis punisar, destruktar e desaparigar Sodoma e Gomorra, e sendis paro de homatra anjeli por avertar Lot pri lo eventonta, e por ke il e sua familio povez livar l’urbo justa-tempe, ante ke ol destruktesos… Lot renkontrabis du homi exter-murege, ed insiste invitabis li sejornar che lu, quon li tandem aceptis… E nun venas lo maxim stranja meajudike: yen ke plura viri prizentesis che Lot, e dicis ad ilu, ke li volas konocar ad ilua gasti (e kompreneble, ni omna savas quon signifikas “konocar” en kuntexto Biblal, ka ne?). Lore, Lot nervozeskis admaxime ed ofris a li, vicee, mem ilua du filiini, qui ne ja konocabis viro… Ka Lot ne ja saveskabis, ke sua gasti esas anjeli? Se ne: ka paro de gasti esas plu respektinda kam paro de filia virgini? Se yes: kad il ne informesabis, ke anjeli esas sensexua ed aparte povoza, e ke li povus perfekte defensar su ipsa senprobleme? Fakte, li mustis defensar su, pos ke tal virachi insistis “promocar li”: li simple suflegis e sua suflado blindigis la konocemaro ibe. Tamen: quo eventabus, kaze ke nia du anjeli ajornabus lia suflado til plu delikata instanto? Me povas nur imaginar la sequanta ceno e konversado: 
  
--He, chefo! Ica kerli havas nulo sub sua vesti!
--Ho! Forsan li esas mem plu sexu-avida kam ni ipsa!
--Ho, no, chefo! Li esas sensexua! Li esas nur aero! 
--Ma quon tu dicas, idioto? Ni volas konocar li ja! 
--Neposiblesas, chefo! Li havas nek avanajo nek dopajo! 
--Ka vere? Ne tante importas! Ni esas Sodoma e Gomorra! Ni do konocez lia buki!  
  
E nun yes, nia paro de anjeli blindigabus sua pretendanti ed invitabus Lot, ilua spozino (*kuya nomo ne mencionesas en la Biblo, ma quan me baptis kom Sally) e cetera familio quik livar l’urbo, e mem nul-kaze turnar la kapo ad-dope, dum la destruktado di Sodoma e Gomorra. Nu, e vi omna ja savas, ke la kompatinda Sally ne povis evitar regardeskar ad-dope por spektar lo eventanta, ed el divenis salo-statuo… 
  
E me questionas me: kad en Sodoma e Gomorra ne habitis pueri ed infanti senkulpa? Kad omna kindi anke perisis ibe? 


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For English speakers.

http://www.panix.com/~bartlett/IdoQref.pdf  (7 pages, 42KB) A simple  
reference of Ido forms.

http://www.panix.com/~bartlett/angla-ido-angla.pdf  (23 pages, 201KB) A  
small-type two-way wordlist. (I did not generate this and cannot vouch for  
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Ye ca dio, 15 marto...

44 aK. Julius Caesar mortis, poniard-agita da plura=
 Romana senatani, de qui la chefi esis Gaius Cassius Longinus e Marcus Juni=
us Brutus. La Senato recente deklarabis ke Caesar esas diktatoro di la Roma=
na Republiko, e plura senatani timabis la Caesar deziras abolisar la senato=
. La konsequantaji di la eventi esis interna militi, en qua la Romana Imper=
io esis formacata.

1493. Cristoforo Colombo arivis en Hispania, pos unesma=
 voyajo ad Amerika. Depos 1485 il esforcis obtenar pekuniala moyeni por la =
projeto, por trovar nova voyo ad Azia, fine ganante konkordo kun Ferdinand =
2ma di Aragon e spozino Isabella 1ma di Kastilia.=A0Ye 3 agosto 1492 la exp=
ediciono komencis: tri navi departis de Hispania. Ye 12 oktobro li deskovri=
s insulo di nuntempa Bahama, e renkontris la indijeni, qui esis pacoza. =A0=
Ye 28 oktobro li atingis la nord-esta di nuntempa Cuba, e li exploris la ma=
rbordo. Li exploris la norda marbordo di Hispaniola en januaro 1493, ube li=
 renkontris enemikala indijeni, e du homi di Colombo esis ocidata; pose li =
komencis retrovoyajo a Hispania. Colombo durante kredis ke il deskovris reg=
iono di Azia.

1918. La kompozistino Lili Boulanger mortis, evante 24 yari.=
 El naskis en Paris, ube elua patro esis docisto ye la konservatorio; el es=
is notende interesata pri muziko de frua evo. Un de elua docisti esis Gabri=
el Faur=E9, qua esis influiva. En 1913 el ganis la "Prix de Rome", esante l=
a unesma homino qua ganis la premio. Elua saneso esis durante desbona, ed e=
l demarshis kompletigar plura orkestrala verki ante sua morto. Elua fratino=
 Nadia Boulanger, qua mortis en 1979, anke esis kompozisto, qua docis plura=
 notenda kompozisti di la 20ma yarcento.

Kordiale DGW
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ani, de qui la chefi esis Gaius Cassius Longinus e Marcus Junius Brutus. La=
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 Depos 1485 il esforcis obtenar
 pekuniala=
 moyeni por la projeto, por trovar nova voyo ad Azia, fine ganante konkordo=
 kun Ferdinand 2ma di Aragon e spozino Isabella 1ma di Kastilia. Ye 3 agosto 1492 la expediciono komencis: tri navi departis de Hispania. =
Ye 12 oktobro li deskovris insulo di nuntempa Bahama, e renkontris la indij=
eni, qui esis pacoza.  Ye 28 oktobro li atingis la nord-esta di nuntem=
pa Cuba, e li exploris la marbordo. Li exploris la norda marbordo di Hispan=
iola en januaro 1493, ube li renkontris enemikala indijeni, e du homi di Co=
lombo esis ocidata; pose li komencis retrovoyajo a Hispania. Colombo durant=
e kredis ke il deskovris regiono di Azia.

1918. La kompozistino Lili B=
oulanger mortis, evante 24 yari. El naskis en Paris, ube elua patro esis do=
cisto ye la konservatorio; el esis notende interesata pri muziko de frua ev=
o. Un de elua docisti esis Gabriel Faur=E9, qua esis influiva. En 1913 el g=
anis la "Prix de Rome", esante la unesma homino qua ganis la premio. Elua s=
aneso esis durante desbona, ed el demarshis kompletigar plura orkestrala ve=
rki ante sua morto. Elua fratino Nadia Boulanger, qua mortis en 1979, anke =
esis kompozisto, qua docis plura notenda kompozisti di la 20ma yarcento.

Kordiale DGW
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (20)  

 


Me singla-die kontabis la tempo pasinta de pos l’absenteso di Jesu, dum olqua il esus fastanta che l’ dezerto… Kande, pasinte ‘quardek’ jorni e ‘quardek’ nokti, la fasto-tempo previdita kompletigesis, me livis la domo di Lazaro ed ilua fratini, ed iris renkontre di Jesu… Segun semblo, dum ilua solitareso, il esabis insiste tentata dal diablo ipsa, qua ofrabis ad il irgo dezirata; tamen, la maligno nule sucesabis faligar Jesu, qua rezistabis omna tenti. Ton ni saveskis plu tarde, pos ke Jesu ipsa dicis a ni lo eventinta en la dezerto... Altre, ni nule povabus saveskar lo, nam nulu altra esabis ibe kun ilu, ecepte la diablo (e kelka benigna anjeli, qui servis Jesu, ma nur pos ke il aprobis sua harda exameno 40-dia). 
  
Ni anke saveskis, ca-kaze ne da Jesu, ke Jan la Baptisto kaptesabis ed esabis enkarcerigata impere da Herodes… E ni departis survoye a Galilea, ube, pos tre kurta sejorno en Nazaret (dum olqua Jesu tante skandalis sua samvilajani, ke ici forte refuzis ilu e mem preske mortigis ilu), ni mustis quik departar vers Kafarnaum, vilajeto apud lago Tiberiades. 
  
Ho, Nazaret! La Nazaret, quan me vizitabis fine dil 20ma yarcento, esis advere nula vilajeto, ma urbeto havanta 80.000 habitanti e disponanta, adminime, (me ya kontis oli) oko de gazolino-stacioni, un ye singla extremajo di lua precipua chosei. 
  
Yen ke me esis sejornanta en Tiberias, kande me decidis vehar autostope a Nazaret, qua esus mea nexta sejorneyo… Kom anekdoto, me volunte raportos, ke l’automobilo, qua haltigesis por me, esis duktata da pasable yuna e gaya homulo negra, qua, ultre gaya, esis anke geya… Til lore, me nul-tempe renkontrabis negra homeosexualo, e me multe shokesis da lua tro direta e tote sen-shama atitudo sexual vers mea persono, mem pos ke me klarigis da lu, ke me esas heterosexual, e ke me prizas mulieri e nule viri… Tamen, lu regardadis me quaze lu enamoreskabus… Quale explikar lo por ke vi komprenez? Me esperas ofensor nulu per dicar, kun absoluta sincereso, quon tal regardado pensigis da me: la brilo ed intenseso dil okuli di mea kunvehanto rimemorigis da me pri sat anciena versiono dil filmo King Kong, konkrete pri olta aparinta en 1933… Ho, yes! Me sentis, ke mea negra homo regardadis me same dolce ed enamoreskanta kam King Kong regardabis sua homa belino. 
  
E kande ni tandem atingis Nazaret, me tandem sucesis respirar alejita, pos ke me ekiris la veturo e dankis ed adeis olua gaya ed aparte tushema geya duktanto. Haleluya! 


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Segun ula jurnali, Gambia lasos havar l'Angliana kom oficala linguo. Ka la =
prezidanto adoptos Ido kom nova oficala linguo?

http://www.arabnews.com/ne=
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To esas posibla. Ma forsan Ido kun Kirila literi ...

Amikala saluti
Thomas  ;-) Δ


Se milito esas la respondo, lore oportas nova questiono.


Chabi Chabi  schrieb: 

>Segun ula jurnali, Gambia lasos havar l'Angliana kom oficala linguo. Ka la prezidanto adoptos Ido kom nova oficala linguo?
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Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero C di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/03/dicionario-kompleta-c.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

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Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero B di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-b.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

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Kara samideani,

me prizentas a vi hike mea projeto di la nova Dicionario Kompleta di la radiki.

Me komencis la laboro por ica dicionario en la somero dil 2012, ma pose me interruptis, e recente me rikomencis ol por kompletigar la litero A. Entote, la laboro pri ca litero duris dum un monato e duimo cirkume. Me unionis la vorti dispersita en plura dicionarii, listi e listeti qui akumulesis dum la yari, plu exakte dum la yardeki. La laboro esis harda, nam granda quanto de vorti ne havis defino, e do me mustis furnisar defino por ta omna vorti, multi de qui esas tre teknikala vorti pri diversa cienci, precipue pri biologio, pri qua me havas poka savo. Pro to, me koaktesis facar vera studio e serchado, en dicionarii ed enciklopedii papera ed interretala, por skribar la defini bezonata.

Nun, kun granda kontenteso, me povas prizentar al Idistaro l'unesma pagini di dicionario kompleta quan l'Idisti de longa tempo bezonas. Kompreneble la laboro mustas duror, por la litero B ed omna cetera literi.

Intertempe me invitas vi irar ad ica pagino por deskargar la parto komencala:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-a.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio




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Kara Chabi,

kun certeso Gambia ne adoptos Ido.
Nula  problemo, ye unesma regardo !

Yen ya devizo dil Idisti:
Ad singla populo sua linguo
ed un komuna linguo  por omna populi.

Por l´avanco dil Ido ,
amikala saluti,
Eberhard

Von: Chabi Chabi 
Datum: 16.03.2014 19:24
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> Segun ula jurnali, Gambia lasos havar l'Angliana kom oficala linguo. 
> Ka la prezidanto adoptos Ido kom nova oficala linguo?
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> http://www.arabnews.com/news/537751
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Kara Chabi,

      

      kun certeso Gambia ne adoptos Ido.

      Nula  problemo, ye unesma regardo !

      

      Yen ya devizo dil Idisti:

      Ad singla populo sua linguo

      ed un komuna linguo  por omna populi.

      

      Por l´avanco dil Ido ,

      amikala saluti,

      Eberhard

      

      Von: Chabi Chabi 

      Datum: 16.03.2014 19:24

    

    

      
      
      

        
Segun ula jurnali, Gambia lasos havar l'Angliana kom
          oficala linguo. Ka la prezidanto adoptos Ido kom nova oficala
          linguo?

        


        

        
      

      
      

    

    

  


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Ofteso di "Couturat" e "Zamenhof" en libri. "Zamenhof" sucesas maxim bone en libri en la Angla linguo, ma en la altra lingui "Couturat" esas plu ofta. On povas vidar quale la ofteso chanjis dum tempo.

Angla linguo:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Couturat%2C+Zamenhof&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CCouturat%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CZamenhof%3B%2Cc0

Franca linguo:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Couturat%2CZamenhof&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=19&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CCouturat%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CZamenhof%3B%2Cc0

Germana linguo:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Couturat%2CZamenhof&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=20&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CCouturat%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CZamenhof%3B%2Cc0

Hispana linguo:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Couturat%2CZamenhof&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=21&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CCouturat%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CZamenhof%3B%2Cc0

Italiana linguo:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Couturat%2CZamenhof&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=22&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CCouturat%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CZamenhof%3B%2Cc0

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Ye ca dio, 22 marto...

1832. En Weimar, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe mortis,=
 evante 82 yari. Dum sua vivo il skribis literala verki di diversa formi, e=
 skribis pri botaniko ed anatomio. Il frue divenis famoza pos la suceso di =
la romano "Die Leiden des jungen Werthers" ("La Chagreni di yuna Werther"),=
 skribita en 1774. Pro ca romano, la Duko di Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach invitis i=
l a sua korto en Weimar; Goethe pose dumvive rezidis en ca urbo. Lua verki =
inkluzas la dramato "Faust", di qua la unesma parto aparis en 1808, e la du=
esma en 1832.

1985. En Wien, internaciona konkordo pri la gardo dil ozono-=
strato esis signata; ol pose esis ratifikata da 196 stati. Ca konkordo esis=
 establisata ye la konfero en Wien di ta yaro, qua eventis pos la deskovro =
di truo en la ozono-strato ye la suda polo; la truo esis kauzo di augmento =
di ultreviolea radiado atinganta Antarktika. Pro la konkordo, la produkto d=
i ozono-diminutanta substanci esis diminutata.

1997. La kometo Hale-Bopp a=
tingis maxim proximeso a Tero. Ol esis deskovrata ye 23 julio 1995 da Alan =
Hale e Thomas Bopp en Usa, ed ol divenis la maxim brilanta kometo di la 20m=
a yarcento. Pos mayo 1996 ol esis videbla per okuli sen teleskopo; en febru=
aro 1997 olua du kaudi esis klare videbla. Ye maxim proximeso ol esis plu b=
rilanta kam irga stelo. Olua orbito esante preske perpendikla a la ekliptik=
o, ol esis videbla en la sudala misfero di Tero pos maxim proximeso; la las=
to observado per okulo sen teleskopo esis en decembro 1997. Astronomi expek=
tas ke olua sequanta vizito a ca regiono di la sunala sistemo esos ye cirku=
me la yaro 4385.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 22 marto...

1832. En Weimar, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe mortis, evante 82 yari. Du=
m sua vivo il skribis literala verki di diversa formi, e skribis pri
 botan=
iko ed anatomio. Il frue divenis famoza pos la suceso di la romano "Die Lei=
den des jungen Werthers" ("La Chagreni di yuna Werther"), skribita en 1774.=
 Pro ca romano, la Duko di Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach invitis il a sua korto en W=
eimar; Goethe pose dumvive rezidis en ca urbo. Lua verki inkluzas la dramat=
o "Faust", di qua la unesma parto aparis en 1808, e la duesma en 1832.

1985. En Wien, internaciona konkordo pri la gardo dil ozono-strato esis=
 signata; ol pose esis ratifikata da 196 stati. Ca konkordo esis establisat=
a ye la konfero en Wien di ta yaro, qua eventis pos la deskovro di truo en =
la ozono-strato ye la suda polo; la truo esis kauzo di augmento di ultrevio=
lea radiado atinganta Antarktika. Pro la konkordo, la produkto di ozono-dim=
inutanta substanci esis diminutata.

1997. La kometo Hale-=
Bopp atingis maxim proximeso a Tero. Ol esis deskovrata ye 23 julio 1995 da=
 Alan Hale e Thomas Bopp en Usa, ed ol divenis la maxim brilanta kometo di =
la 20ma yarcento. Pos mayo 1996 ol esis videbla per okuli sen teleskopo; en=
 februaro 1997 olua du kaudi esis klare videbla. Ye maxim proximeso ol esis=
 plu brilanta kam irga stelo. Olua orbito esante preske perpendikla a la ek=
liptiko,
 ol esis videbla en la sudala misfero di Tero pos maxim proximeso;=
 la lasto observado per okulo sen teleskopo esis en decembro 1997. Astronom=
i expektas ke olua sequanta vizito a ca regiono di la sunala sistemo esos y=
e cirkume la yaro 4385.

Kordiale DGW
=

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (21)  

 

 
Arivinte kun Jesu en Kafarnaum (belega nomo, ka ne?), mea unesma impreso esis tote kontrea ad olta quan me havabis en irg altra loko: me sentis ke, quankam advere ne tro granda, Kafarnaum esis plue populizita e vivo-plena kam la Kafarnaum, quan me vizitabis ne tante longe antee, e qua aceptabis me per stranja trupo di rangizita e preske senmova lacerti griza, qui restabis bok-apertita al suno… E ne multo plusa, ecepte kelka grava ruinaji e la lago. 
  
Ho, yes! La lago. E yen ke, apud la lago Tiberiades o maro di Galilea, Jesu komencis selektar sua precipua dicipuli, kelki de li inter la peskisti dil vilajo, qui esis ibe: Simon Petro e sua frato Andreas, Jakobo e sua frato Jan… E poka tempo pose, la listo kompletigesabis per plusa homi, qual Filipo, Mateo, Tomas, Bartolomeo, Judas Tadeo, altra Simon, altra Jakobo e Judas Iskariot… Ta 12 homi divenis ilua apostoli. E lore, ta qua komencis predikar omna-loke esis ne Jan la Baptisto, ma Jesu, qua klamadis lo sama kam klamabis sua kompatinda kuzulo, unesme enkarcerigita e plu tarde ocidigita da Herodes: “Repentez! Repentez pri via peki, nam la Rejio dil Cieli esas ja hike!”.  
  
E yen ke to omna rimemorigis da me pri mea puereso en mea vilajo di Valencia, e pri certena yaro, kande pleesis ibe la teatrajo titulizita “La Sufrado di Jesukristo”, en olqua on donis a me tri o quar roli triesma-ranga, preske  senimporta, de qui nur un havis texto apen un-linea… Me pleis kom apostolo Simon, kom Nikodemo, kom Josef de Arimatea e kom civitano… La maxim bona roli disdonesis inter ti qui organizabis la teatrajo, nome grupo di yuna adulti dil vilajo… Li prenis la roli di Jesu, la Virgino, Petro, Jan, Mariya Magdalena, Judas Iskariot, Anas, Kaifas, Pilato, edc… Ho, yes! Me esis nura puero, e mem extergrupano, do me ya darfis aspirar a nulo plusa… E tamen, me ne povas evitar subridar nun, kande me rimemoras pri la homo, qua pregesis eser Jesukristo por plear ilua famoza eniro en l’urbo Jerusalem dum la Palmo-sundio… Ho, yes! Lore, on pregis me ipsa eser Jesu de Nazaret, quon me ya nule expektabis… E quoniam me aceptis la defio, on vestizis me Jesukristatre, on glutinis barbo e mustasho sur mea olima pueral vizajo, apen barbizita, ed on igis me irar, meze dil klameganta populo, surdorse di asno blanka, *kuya enorma spinon me ne plus obliviabas… Drola, ka ne? Hozanna! Hozanna! 


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Saluto!

Kun granda plezuro me povas informar l'Idistaro, ke me hiere suces=
is rezervar e konfigurar duesma interreta adreso, qua vice "idolinguo" kont=
enas la vorto "ido", do la korekta nomo di nia komuna linguo internaciona.
=

Me kreis l'interreta adreso www.ido.berlin e konfiguris ol tale, ke ol dir=
ektes a la frontispico dil interreta situo dil Idoamiki Berlin.

Kun mea ag=
ado me expresas l'espero, ke ico animigos l'Idoamiki Berlin aktualigar lia =
interreta chefpagino ed uzar ol por reklamar por Ido e l'aktiveso dil duran=
te sola funcionanta Ido-grupo en la tota mondo.
Se on kredabus la maxim "ak=
tuala" informi trovebla ye la ret-situo dil Idoamiki Berlin lore la maxim r=
ecenta aktivesi che l'Idoamiki Berlin eventis en la yaro 2011, do preske tr=
i yari ante nun.
Ico certe ne animigas interesemi pri linguo internaciona h=
abitante Berlin o cirkumajo pripensar kunlaboro ye l'Idoamiki o mem kontakt=
ar li.

Yen finas mea informo pri la nova interreta adreso www.ido.berlin e=
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tota Ido-movemento.

Kordiala saluti di Nuernberg sendas a vi omna

Frank K=
asper

Postfach 73 01 28
D- 90243 Nuernberg
Germania
telefonilo: +49911 990=
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faxilo: +49911 4778130810
portebla tetefonilo: +49176 45534248
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Saluto!

Kun granda plezuro me povas informar l'Idistaro, ke me hiere sucesis rezer=
var e konfigurar duesma interreta adreso, qua vice "idolinguo" kontenas la =
vorto "ido", do la korekta nomo di nia komuna linguo internaciona.

Me kreis l'interreta adreso www.ido.berlin e konfiguris ol tale, ke ol direktes a la front=
ispico dil interreta situo dil Idoamiki Berlin.

Ku=
n mea agado me expresas l'espero, ke ico animigos l'Idoamiki Berlin aktuali=
gar lia interreta chefpagino ed uzar ol por reklamar por Ido e l'aktiveso d=
il durante sola funcionanta Ido-grupo en la tota mondo.
Se on kre=
dabus la maxim "aktuala" informi trovebla ye la ret-situo dil Idoamiki Berl=
in lore la maxim recenta aktivesi che l'Idoamiki Berlin eventis en la yaro =
2011, do preske tri yari ante nun.
Ico certe ne animigas interese=
mi pri linguo internaciona habitante Berlin o cirkumajo pripensar kunlaboro=
 ye l'Idoamiki o mem kontaktar li.

Yen finas mea i=
nformo pri la nova interreta adreso www.i=
do.berlin e pri mea espero ye la skopo di prosperoza futuro dil Idoamik=
i Berlin e dil tota Ido-movemento.

Kordiala saluti=
 di Nuernberg sendas a vi omna

=


Frank Kasper

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Kara gesamideani

Nia diligenta Germana samideano Gert Heintze skanigis la =
libreto "Kontributajo a la studiado di la HISTORIO DI NIA LINGUO da Henry J=
akob" e disponigis ol pro publikigo ye la generala ret-situo pri Ido. La pd=
f-dokumento dil libreto trovesas ye 

http://www.literaturo.ido.li/idohisto=
rio.pdf .

Me deziras agreabla studiado di ica libreto.

Kordiale salutas v=
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Frank Kasper

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Danko a Frank pro la komunikajo ed a Gert pro lua esforci ri-publikigar ca =
tre interesanta ed utila esayo pri la historio dil Ido. Danko pro ca donaca=
jo!

Lo=C3=AFc Landais






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> Message du 25/03/14 19:03
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> 
> Nia diligenta Germana samidea=
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> http://www.literaturo.ido.li/idohistorio.pdf .
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Ye 29 marto...

1795. Ye la Burgtheater en Wien, Ludwig van Beethoven apari=
s unesmafoye en publika koncerto, pleante sua Piano-koncerto-peco no. 2. Il=
 kompozis ca verko inter 1787 e 1789; ol aparis imprimite en 1801, pos la a=
paro di la Piano-koncerto-peco no. 1, qua kompozesis en 1796-7. Ante ca kon=
certo, dum la frua yari di sua rezido en Wien pos arivo en 1792, il ganabis=
 reputo kom virtuozo di la piano, pleante por nobeli ye privata koncerti.

=
1807.=A0Heinrich Wilhelm Olbers, qua esis mediko ed amatora astronomo en Go=
ettingen, deskovris asteroido Vesta: la quaresma deskovrita da irgu, pos Ce=
res, Pallas e Juno. En 1802 il deskovrabis asteroido Pallas, quo iniciabis =
serchado por plusa tala objekti. Astronomi tatempe diskutis la origino di a=
steroidi; Olbers konjektis ke li esas restaji de destruktata planeto. Nunte=
mpe, astronomi supozas ke la gravitala influo di Jupiter impedis la kreo di=
 planeti en la asteroido-zono. En julio 2011 la kosmonavo Dawn eniris orbit=
o cirkum Vesta, e kolektis informeso til departo por Ceres en septembro 201=
2.

1974. Mariner 10, la unesma kosmosondilo qua vizitis Merkuro, atingis m=
axim proximeso a la planeto, ye disto 703 km. Ol lansesis ye 3 november 197=
3. Atingar orbito cirkum Merkuro esis neposibla pro olua proximeso a la Sun=
o; ol pasis la planeto trifoye, intertempe flugante cirkum la Suno; la last=
a paso esis ye 16 marto 1975. To esis la unesma foyo di utiligo di la gravi=
teso di planeti por chanjar flugo-voyo. Dum la preterpaso ye marto 1974 (la=
 unesma de la tri pasi), Mariner 10 prenis fotografuri qui montris ke la su=
rfaco di Merkuro esas quale la luno; instrumenti montris ke surfacala tempe=
raturi esas minime -183C e maxime 187C, e ke ol havas febla magnetala feldo=
.=A0

Kordiale DGW
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Ye 29 marto...

1795. Ye la Burg=
theater en Wien, Ludwig van Beethoven aparis unesmafoye en publika koncerto=
, pleante sua Piano-koncerto-peco no. 2. Il kompozis ca verko inter 1787 e =
1789; ol aparis imprimite en 1801, pos la aparo di la Piano-koncerto-peco n=
o. 1, qua
 kompozesis en 1796-7. Ante ca koncerto, dum la frua
 yari di sua=
 rezido en Wien pos arivo en 1792, il
 ganabis reputo kom virtuozo di la pi=
ano, pleante por nobeli ye privata koncerti.

1807. Heinr=
ich Wilhelm Olbers, qua esis mediko ed amatora astronomo en Goettingen, des=
kovris asteroido Vesta: la quaresm=
a deskovrita da irgu,
 pos Ceres, Pallas e Juno. En 1802 il deskovrabis ast=
eroido Pallas, quo iniciabis serchado por plusa tala
 objekti. Astronomi ta=
tempe diskutis la origino di asteroidi; Olbers konjektis ke li esas restaji=
 de destruktata planeto. Nuntempe, astronomi supozas ke la gravitala influo=
 di Jupiter impedis la kreo di planeti en la asteroido-zono. En julio 2011 =
la kosmonavo Dawn eniris orbito cirkum Vesta, e kolektis informeso til depa=
rto por Ceres en septembro 2012.

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1974. Mariner 10, la =
unesma kosmosondilo qua vizitis Merkuro, atingis maxim proximeso a la plane=
to, ye disto 703 km. Ol lansesis ye 3 november 1973. Atingar orbito cirkum =
Merkuro esis neposibla pro olua proximeso a la Suno; ol pasis la planeto tr=
ifoye, intertempe flugante cirkum la Suno; la
 lasta paso esis ye 16 marto =
1975. To esis la unesma foyo di utiligo di la graviteso di planeti por chan=
jar flugo-voyo. Dum la preterpaso ye marto 1974 (la unesma de la tri pasi),=
 Mariner 10 prenis fotografuri qui montris ke la surfaco di Merkuro esas qu=
ale la luno; instrumenti montris ke surfacala temperaturi esas minime -183C=
 e maxime 187C, e ke ol havas febla magnetala feldo. 

Kordiale DGW
=


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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (22)  

 

 
Nun e hike, kara lekteri, me devas avertar vi ke, dum la tota tempo quan me pasis kun Jesu ed ilua dicipuli, me skribis nulo pri lo eventinta ibe, do to quon me raportos de pos nun, oportas ne prenesar kom rigoroze ordinita kronologiale. Ed altra-latere, me volunte informas vi, ke mea skopo ne esis raportar pri omna mirakli ed eventaji, quin vi ya bone konocas, maxim aparte, danke Mateo, Markos, Lukas e Jan. 
  
Tamen, un del unesma mirakli, quin me asistis, esis olta eventinta en Kana di Galilea, vilajo proxim Nazaret, ube ni invitesis partoprenar mariajo-festo… Yen ke me ja vizitabis Kana, dum mea voyajo e sejorno en la Santa Lando, ta-kaze ped-irante de Nazaret e retroveninte aden olca sama-die… E yen ke, survoye a Kana, me pensabis: “Quon me povus vidar hike, quo esus adminime pasable simil a to quon Jesukristo vidis ye 2000 yari ante nun?”… E lore, me regardis ta pura e blua cielo e la profili di kelka ne tro fora monti, e me konjektis, ke to ne multe chanjabos… E me ya sentis enorma plezuro dum marchar ed admirar to omna. 
  
En Kana di Galilea, do, celebresis granda mariajo-festo, en olqua aceptesis amaso de gasti, inter qui Jesu e sua matro, plura dicipuli e me ipsa, qua divenabis tote ne-separebla dil Nazaretano... Meze dil festo, Jan questionis me: 
--He, Partakael! Ka tu ne drinkas vino hodie? Stranja, ka ne? 
--Ha, no, Jan! Me preferas drinkar plu tarde, ve! --me dicis.  
  
Tamen, yen ke plu tarde, e tote ne-expektite dal hosti, la vinuyi exhaustesis, forsan pro la nombrozega asistintaro… E yen ke, lore, Mariya dicis urje a sua filio Jesu: 
--Mankas a li vino, filio! Voluntez helpar! 
--Muliero: pro quo tu interferas en mea aferi? Mea tempo ne ja arivabas --Jesu respondis. 
--He! Ne respondez a me tale! Me esas tua matro, e matro esas nur un. Agez! Agez nun! --Mariya imperis. 
  
E lore, Jesu plenigis dal servisti plura kruchegi per aquo, e yen ke tal aquo divenis vino… E vino multe plu bona kam l’antea! Lore, me ipsa komencis drinkar tal ecelanta vino, quan me oportune baptis kom “Miraklo di Kana”, dum ke Jan, qua regardis me kun evidenta suspekto, klamis: 
--He, Partakael! Tu ja savis, ke ico eventos, ka ne? Yen pro quo tu ne drinkis antee… L’altra vino esis multe inferiora… Nexta-foye, voluntez avertar me por ke anke me povez profitar tua presavo, frato! 
--Me regretas lo, Jan, ma me ne darfas chanjar lo pasinta, ne mem kande lo pasinta esas pasonta. Singlu drinkez ed agez segun-vole o segun-pove! --me kelke filozofiachis. 
--Ka tu povus chanjar aquo a vino? --Jan esis kurioza. 
--Ho, no! Me povus admaxime chanjar vino ad aquo --me spontane respondis jokoze. 
  
 
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Kara amiki,

yen parto dil chambro en qua esas nia Idolingual  arkivo .
Sinistre trovesas le Progreso, dextre esas lernolibri,  vortari ed altra 
literaturaji
En la dopa parto dil arkiveyo trovesas plu granda quanto de Sueda
literaturo, plusa Idoliteraturo ed anke cirkume 100 Espo-libri e
multa Espo-jurnli. Kompreneble hike anke trovesas poka literaturo
en altra auxiliara lingui.

La literatur-biblioteko e la arkivo esas apertita por exploristi ed
interesati, kondicione on anuncas che la Idoamiki.
Regretinde la arkivo ne esas apertata
pos 18 kloki e dum la semanfini.

Quankam ja multo esas en komputoro, om devas konstatar ke multo
ankore es facenda. Do helpo esas necesa, esas dezirata.

Arkivala saluti
Eberhard



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Kar amiki,
regretinde me ne esis sat atencoza loncerne la titulo di mea antea mesajo.
Pardonez me,
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ASKOLTEZ SONA ENREJISTRURO: https://app.box.com/s/2306z5yjlkpp227pdg2u https://app.box.com/s/2306z5yjlkpp227pdg2u

 

 En marto 2014, Luxemburglando prezidis la Konsilantaro di Sekureso di la Nacioni Unionita. Luxemburglando esas grand-dukio west-Europana, regnata da Ilua Alteso Rejal Henrikus, per la Graco di Deo Grand-Dukulo di Luxemburglando, Dukulo di Nasovia, Palatenulo di Rhenlando, Komtulo di Sena, Lapis Regius, Kattimelibokum e Decia, Burgravulo di Hammerstein, Siniorulo di Mahlberg, Wisbada, Idstena, Merenberg, Limburgum ed Eppstein.
 

 Luxemburglando jacas sur voyo importanta E25 de Nederlando trans Luxemburglando e Strasbourg (olim Straßburg) a Palermo. Segun Facebook, Portugalani, Belgiani, Franciani e Germaniani esas la maxim bona amiki di Luxemburglandani. Belgia, Germania e Francia esas la maxim granda parteneri komercal di Luxemburglando. Segun l' Inquesto Mondal di Valori, Belgiani e Britaniani esas mentale proxima a Luxemburglandani. En la Nacioni Unionita Luxemburglando ofte votas kun Italia, Japonia, Montenegro e Slovenia.
 

 2014-03-24 | 2 456 741 | 150 155 LU     | La Komisitaro Europana aprobis nova reguli luktonta kontre sekreteso bankal, qui obligas omna duadekeok membri dil Uniono Europana komunigar informi pri interesta pagi, por ke li povez propre taxar sua civitani. La propozo dum multa yari opozesabis da Luxemburglando ed Austria pro timi, ke olia sistemi bankal konkurencale des-avantajizesus komparate kun impostal paradizi quale Suisia. Ma ed Austria e Luxemburglando konsentis al nova reguli dum kongreso en Bruxelles, recevinte certigi del Komisitaro Europana, ke Suisia ed altra impostal paradizi nun esas sur la sama pagino, kande on inter-kambias informi pri la quanto de interesto pagata a posedanti di konti. "Me savas, ke co esas enorme nacionale signifikanta por li e me joyas, ke li nun esas ri-certigita, ke lia interesti protektesas e respektesas," dicis Algirdas Šemeta, la komisitulo dil Uniono Europana pri taxado, pri la des-quieteso Austriana e Luxemburglandana. 2014-03-26 | 2 456 743 | 150 155 BE-BRU | Alarmo sekuresal deklaresis pro pako suspektinda trovita en autobuso en la nordo di Bruxelles ye cirkum tri kilometri de la sideyo di NATO dum vizito da prezidantulo Usana Barack Obama. Polico Belgiana invitis la piroteknisti por inquestar la pako. Omno rezultis en alarmo falsa. La pako panikiva des-kovresis esar sen-danjera e la perimetro sekuresal cirkum l' autobuso des-establisesis. Obama pose negociis kun sekretariulo general di NATO Anders Fogh Rasmussen. 2014-03-31 | 2 456 748 | 150 155 FR     | En elekti municipal en Francia, kandidati di la dextristara Uniono por Movado Populal standis bone. La Partiso Socialistara guvernanta generale standis male, ma olia kandidatino Anne Hidalgo esis sucesoza, divenonte l' unesma urbestrino di Paris. La Franciana guvernerio agnoskis granda perdo. La prezidantulo Franciana François Hollande nominis Manuel Valls, antee ministrulo di internaji, kom la nova chef-ministrulo, remplasanta Jean-Marc Ayrault. 

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Kara samideani,

Me volas prizentar hike mea duesma verko, generala vortaro=
 pri cienci.

Voluntez lektar ol e dicar a me quon vi opinionas pri ol. Esa=
s l'unesma edituro, pro to mankas multa vorti ma me pensas expansor ol.

Ad=
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=
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Ye ca dio, 5 aprilo...

1242. Armeo di Alexander Nevski, princo di Novgorod=
, vinkis armeo di la Ordeno di Germana Kavalieri ye Lago Peipus, ye la nunt=
empa frontiero inter Rusia ed Estonia. La batalio nomizesis la Batalio di l=
a Glacio, pro ke ol eventis sur la frostigita lago. La kavalieri egardis la=
 batalio kom parto di nordala kruco-milito, kontre pagani ed estala ortodox=
a Kristani. Alexander Nevski, qua esis exilita, esis retro-vokata da la civ=
itani di Novgorod kande la kavalieri proximeskis. La batalio esis longa, e =
la kavalieri esis jenata pro la glitiganta glacio; fine, multa kavalieri, r=
estriktita adsur bordo di la lago, falis tra dina glacio e dronesis. Pro ca=
 vinkeso, la Ordeno di Germana Kavalieri ne pluse kampaniis kontre Novgorod=
 ed altra Rusa teritorii.

1874. En Wien, la opero "Die Fledermaus" (La Ves=
pertilio), da Johann Strauss 2ma, esis unesmafoye pleata. La libreto skribe=
sis da Karl Haffner e Richard Gen=E9e. Ol esis la triesma kompletigita oper=
o di Strauss (pos "Indigo und die vierzig R=E4uber" en 1871, e "Der Karneva=
l in Rom" en 1873), e la unesma sucesoza opero di lu. Il pose kompozis plur=
a plusa operi, de qui la maxim famoza esas "Eine Nacht in Venedig" (1883) e=
 "Der Zigeunerbaron" (1885).

1923. George Herbert, la 5ma komto di Carnarv=
on, mortis en Kairo, Egiptia, evante 56 yari. Il esis Angla aristokrato qua=
 havis intereso pri kur-kavali e rapida automobili; en 1901 il esis grave v=
undata en automobilo-acidento. Il anke havis intereso pri Egiptala arkeolog=
io, ed en 1907 il komencis donar pekuniala susteno ad exkavadi en Egiptia. =
En novembro 1922, arkeologo Howard Carter, employata da la komto, deskovris=
 la tombeyo di Tutankhamun; Carter e la komto kune apertis la tombeyo e tro=
vis la kontenaji. La komto mortis ye la sequanta yaro, kelka dii pos ke il =
sufris severa moskito-mordo.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 5 aprilo...

1242. Armeo di Alexander Nevski=
, princo di Novgorod, vinkis armeo di la Ordeno di Germana Kavalieri ye Lag=
o Peipus, ye la nuntempa frontiero inter Rusia ed Estonia. La batalio nomiz=
esis la Batalio di la Glacio, pro ke ol eventis sur la frostigita lago. La =
kavalieri egardis la batalio kom parto di nordala kruco-milito, kontre paga=
ni ed estala ortodoxa Kristani. Alexander Nevski, qua esis exilita, esis re=
tro-vokata da la civitani
 di Novgorod kande la kavalieri proximeskis. La b=
atalio esis longa, e la kavalieri esis jenata pro la glitiganta glacio; fin=
e, multa kavalieri, restriktita adsur bordo di la lago, falis tra dina glac=
io e dronesis. Pro ca vinkeso, la Ordeno di Germana Kavalieri ne pluse kamp=
aniis kontre
 Novgorod ed altra Rusa teritorii.

1874. En Wien, la opero=
 "Die Fledermaus" (La Vespertilio), da Johann Strauss 2ma, esis unesmafoye
=
 pleata. La libreto skribesis da Karl Haffner e Richard Gen=E9e. Ol esis la=
 triesma kompletigita opero di Strauss (pos "Indigo und die vierzig R=E4ube=
r" en 1871, e "Der Karneval in Rom" en 1873), e la unesma sucesoza opero di=
 lu. Il pose kompozis plura plusa operi, de qui la maxim famoza esas "Eine =
Nacht in Venedig" (1883) e "Der Zigeunerbaron" (1885).

1923.
 George Herbert, la 5ma komto d=
i Carnarvon, mortis en Kairo, Egiptia, evante 56 yari. Il esis Angla aristo=
krato qua havis intereso pri kur-kavali e rapida automobili; en 1901 il esi=
s grave vundata en automobilo-acidento. Il anke havis intereso pri Egiptala=
 arkeologio, ed en 1907 il komencis donar pekuniala susteno ad exkavadi en =
Egiptia. En novembro 1922, arkeologo Howard Carter, employata da la komto, =
deskovris la tombeyo di Tutankhamun; Carter e la komto kune apertis la tomb=
eyo e trovis la kontenaji. La komto mortis ye la sequanta yaro, kelka dii p=
os ke il sufris severa moskito-mordo.

Kordiale DGW=


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Me esperas ke vi juis lektar la serio "Ye ca dio...".

La serio nun repozos=
 dum kelka semani; ol retrovenos pos la pauzo ye saturdio 3 mayo.

Kordiale=
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Kordiale, David Weston

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Yes, me tre prizas lektar la serio "Ye ca dio". 
Danko David pro ca efemeri=
do quan me esperas ritrovar la 3ma di mayo.
Vartante Bona vakanci!

Kordial=
e

Lo=C3=AFc landais


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> Message du 05/04/14 10:10
> De : "David=
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> A : "idolisto@yahoogroups.com" 
> Copie =C3=A0 : 
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olisto] Pauzo di "Ye ca dio"
> 
> 
> 
> 




Me esperas ke vi juis lektar l=
a serio "Ye ca dio...".

La serio nun repozos dum kelka semani; ol retroven=
os pos la pauzo ye saturdio 3 mayo.

Kordiale, David Weston





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Vartante Bona vakanci!<=
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Kordiale

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Pauzo di "Ye ca dio"
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La serio n=
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Kara David,

Ne "Egiptala", ma "Egiptiana" (de "Egiptia").

Til nova aniver=
sarii, bona vakanco!

Kordiale,
Robert C.


On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 08:51:21 +01=
00 (BST), David Weston wrote: 
Ye ca dio, 5 aprilo...


1242. Armeo di Alex=
ander Nevski, princo di Novgorod, vinkis armeo di la Ordeno di Germana Kava=
lieri ye Lago Peipus, ye la nuntempa frontiero inter Rusia ed Estonia. La b=
atalio nomizesis la Batalio di la Glacio, pro ke ol eventis sur la frostigi=
ta lago. La kavalieri egardis la batalio kom parto di nordala kruco-milito,=
 kontre pagani ed estala ortodoxa Kristani. Alexander Nevski, qua esis exil=
ita, esis retro-vokata da la civitani di Novgorod kande la kavalieri proxim=
eskis. La batalio esis longa, e la kavalieri esis jenata pro la glitiganta =
glacio; fine, multa kavalieri, restriktita adsur bordo di la lago, falis tr=
a dina glacio e dronesis. Pro ca vinkeso, la Ordeno di Germana Kavalieri ne=
 pluse kampaniis kontre Novgorod ed altra Rusa teritorii.


1874. En Wien, =
la opero "Die Fledermaus" (La Vespertilio), da Johann Strauss 2ma, esis une=
smafoye pleata. La libreto skribesis da Karl Haffner e Richard Gen=E9e. Ol =
esis la triesma kompletigita opero di Strauss (pos "Indigo und die vierzig =
R=E4uber" en 1871, e "Der Karneval in Rom" en 1873), e la unesma sucesoza o=
pero di lu. Il pose kompozis plura plusa operi, de qui la maxim famoza esas=
 "Eine Nacht in Venedig" (1883) e "Der Zigeunerbaron" (1885).


1923. Georg=
e Herbert, la 5ma komto di Carnarvon, mortis en Kairo, Egiptia, evante 56 y=
ari. Il esis Angla aristokrato qua havis intereso pri kur-kavali e rapida a=
utomobili; en 1901 il esis grave vundata en automobilo-acidento. Il anke ha=
vis intereso pri Egiptala arkeologio, ed en 1907 il komencis donar pekunial=
a susteno ad exkavadi en Egiptia. En novembro 1922, arkeologo Howard Carter=
, employata da la komto, deskovris la tombeyo di Tutankhamun; Carter e la k=
omto kune apertis la tombeyo e trovis la kontenaji. La komto mortis ye la s=
equanta yaro, kelka dii pos ke il sufris severa moskito-mordo.


Kordiale D=
GW



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Kara Mark,

me lektis tua joyiva mesajo en Facebook-forumo >idisti<
Parlektar e "parlaborar" tra la famoza " Ido for All" dum kurta tempo, 
qua diligenteso!

Ka vu nun helpos por skribar artikli por nia jurnaleti, o skribar texti 
por Idala wikipedio ?

Omnakaze me bonvenigas vu anke en la Idolisto, la max olda e chefa 
forumo dil Idistaro.

Amikale
Eberhard


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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (23) 
  
  
  
  
Pos tal grandioza mariajo-festo, ni esis retrovenanta aden Kafarnaum, kande, survoye ad ol e dum kurta repozo-tempo, me agis ulo (forsan sorto di drola folajo), quo igis Jan antipatiar me de pos lore: me audacis ludar e jokar kun Jesu por saveskar kad il esis advere tam serioza e cirkonspekta kam on konjektigabis da ni en posa yarcenti... Me pensis: “Se Jesu es inteligenta, il certe ne povas indijar humoro-senso... Se Jesu esas homo, il ya darfas ludar e ridar quale irg altra homo.” E lore, pos ke me komunikis ad il ilua mencionita reputeso kom aparte serioza viro, me startis mea fola experimento per agar quale ni, komun adulti nun-tempa, kustumas agar, kande ni deziras amuzar e ridigar bebeo: me pulseteskis e ripulseteskis la supra parto dil ventro di Jesu per la pinto di mea dextra indiko-fingro, dum subridar ed apertar mea okuli admaxime, e dum klamar sam-tempe (forsan ankor kelke subefekte di tal ecelanta e ne-obliviebla vino, nome “Miraklo di Kana”: 

--Ho, yes! Tre serioza tu! Si, tu, Jesu! Jesu! Tre serioza tu! Ma tu facis miraklo, he? Si, tu! Tu! Nam tu esas tre saja! 

E yen ke Jesu unesme subridis, pose ridis, e fine mem ridegis, dum ke duris mea mikra folajo... Omnu restabis tacanta ed  expektanta... Petro gratabis sencese sua kapo, ma esis Jan ta qua impere klamegis:  
 
--He, tu, Partakael! Ne plus jenez la Maestro! Lasez ilu repozar quiete! 
--Ka jenar? Ka tu ipsa ne vidas quale ni ludas, amuzas e ridas? --me defensis me--. Quo eventas, Jan? Ka tu deziras, ke me ludez anke kun tu, nun? 
--Ka kun me? Nule! Se tu men tushos, me tun frapos per mea sako! 
--Ka vere, Jan? Venez! Ne fugez! Me volas ludar kun tu, ma altra-maniere... 
--Ne tushez me! Se tu men tushos, me tun skrachos! --Jan klamis per sua karakteriziva akuta voco, dum ke me mustis haltigar ilua ungli per sizar ilua karpi per mea manui. 
--Lasez me! Tu dolorigas me, bestio! Me ne deziras ludar kun tu! 
 
Tamen, me quik faligis Jan e, sen liberigar ilua brakii, me sideskis sur ilua ventro, e me pokoke proximigis mea vizajo ad ilua vizajo, e mea labii ad ilua labii, ma sen kisar ilu... E yen ke Jan, qua paleskabis antee, nun redeskis admaxime, dum ke ca-foye esis Petro ta qua ridegis pro nia drola ceno... E plu tarde, kande me liberigis Jan, ilca private avertis me: 
 
--Ne plus jenez la Maestro! Ne tu esas la dicipulo, quan il amas! 
--Ma Jesu amas omna dicipuli, Jan! --me dicis. 
--Ho, yes! Ma esas dicipulo, quan Jesu aparte amas, ve! 
--Do, kara Jan, se ne me esas tal aparte amata dicipulo, nula problemo, ka ne? Quon tu timas? Ka tu forsan jaluzeskis? 
--Nula jaluzeso, Partakael! Tu ne apartenas ad ica tempo, do voluntez retrovenar aden tua vera mondumo, e cesez jenar!
--Ma me esas hike, inter vi, e me mem ‘parlas’ via linguo! 
--Tu ‘parlachas’ l’Arameana per tua achentacho di Samaria! 
 
 
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Saluti e til balde! 
 

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Bon amiko Partaka,

koncerne l´uzado di amba sufixi me volas komentar tua exempli.
Ni simple esas kapita en nia kulturala tradiciono nacionlingua.
Ka to esas la kustumo da la  *patriakato (germane: Patriachat).
Ka ni sempre pensas en nia linguo Ido?
Me es kontenta, ke Ido havas multa expresuri por explikar ula afero.
Omnu savas, ke Angela Merkel es muliero.Suficas dicar, el es federala 
kancelero.
Me devas ma konsentar, ke ni havas irga barili en kapi.
Ultre to, me ne egardas problemi pri la uzado di -ul, -in e ge-

Kompreneble me lektis, lektos tua tre fantastika Evangelio.
Tu bone deskriptas la renkontro di pasinteso e prezenteso.
Me joyas pri posibla plusa surprizaji en tua Evangelio.

Kordiale
Eberhard



Von: 
> Kar amiki:
>
> Yen un plusa exemplo pri nia singla-dia uzo dil sufixo -in-, ma ne 
> sempre dil sufixo -ul-, quo semblas probar pensigar ed intelektar da 
> ni, ke nur vorti uzanta la sufixo -in- esas feminal, e ke olti 
> prizentanta nula sufixo esas sive maskulal, sive neutra, ma nul-kaze 
> klare feminal. Voluntez lektar, ca-kaze, pri naski relatanta la 5ma di 
> aprilo, che nia wikipedio:
>
> 1900  - Spencer Tracy 
> , Usan aktoro (m. 1967 
> )1908 
>  - Bette Davis 
> , Usan aktorino (m. 1989 
> )1916 
>  - Gregory Peck 
> , Usan aktoro (m. 2003 
> ) Ek tal informo, me deduktas, ke 
> esas ibe tri ge-aktori: du aktori (viri) ed un aktorino (muliero). Ka ne? 

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Bon amiko Partaka,

      

      koncerne l´uzado di amba sufixi me volas komentar tua exempli.

      Ni simple esas kapita en nia kulturala tradiciono nacionlingua. 

      Ka to esas la kustumo da la  *patriakato (germane: Patriachat).

      Ka ni sempre pensas en nia linguo Ido?

      Me es kontenta, ke Ido havas multa expresuri por explikar ula
      afero.

      Omnu savas, ke Angela Merkel es muliero.Suficas dicar, el es
      federala kancelero.

      Me devas ma konsentar, ke ni havas irga barili en kapi.

      Ultre to, me ne egardas problemi pri la uzado di -ul, -in e ge-

      

      Kompreneble me lektis, lektos tua tre fantastika Evangelio. 

      Tu bone deskriptas la renkontro di pasinteso e prezenteso.

      Me joyas pri posibla plusa surprizaji en tua Evangelio.

      

      Kordiale

      Eberhard

      

      

      

      Von: 
      Datum: 06.04.2014 03:50

    

    

      
      

      Kar amiki:
      
Yen un plusa exemplo pri nia singla-dia uzo dil sufixo -in-, ma
        ne sempre dil sufixo -ul-, quo semblas probar pensigar ed
        intelektar da ni, ke nur vorti uzanta la sufixo -in- esas
        feminal, e ke olti prizentanta nula sufixo esas sive maskulal,
        sive neutra, ma nul-kaze klare feminal. Voluntez lektar,
        ca-kaze, pri naski relatanta la 5ma di aprilo, che nia
        wikipedio: 

      1900 - Spencer Tracy, Usan aktoro (m. 1967)1908
      - Bette Davis, Usan aktorino (m. 1989)1916
      - Gregory Peck, Usan aktoro (m. 2003) Ek tal informo, me deduktas,
      ke esas ibe tri ge-aktori: du aktori (viri) ed un aktorino
      (muliero). Ka ne? 

  


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Kar amiki,

Yen sube la texto di mesajo quon me sendis responde a nia kara amiko Eberhard Scholz, direte ed anke a ca e-postlisto a qua il sendis l'unesma mesajo dil konverso, ante proxime un horo. Me tamen sendis olu unesmafoye per mea e-postadreso a qua skribis Sro Scholz, ma ita adreso ne esas registrita ye ica listo, e konseque Yahoo desaceptis la mesajo. Nun me risendas per mea registrita adreso, e por montrar mea gratitudo a Sro Scholz e la tota Idistaro, e por durigar la konverso. Nur recente me poveskis dicar, tre joyoze, ke me esas parolanto dil linguo Ido.

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Kar Eberhard,

Fakte me membreskis ante longe en ica listo, tamen per altra
e-postadreso. Malgree me dankegas pro vua vorti amikala ed itere pro vua
entuziasmo pri la lernado di nova parolanti. Ankore me joyegas recevir
vua numeri dil Ido-jurnaleti "Progreso" ed "Ido-Saluto!", ed ankore me
felice gardas la kuverto, admirante la postmarki e memorante la komenco
di mea Idistesko.

Me joyas esperoze pri la chanco unionor kun la talentozega verkistaro
dil linguo Ido, ed ye Wikipedio ed en la jurnal(et)i dil linguo (certe
inter altra verkadala moyeni!). Me timas ke mea esforci ne kunportos la
sama nivelo de grandeso o graveso kam iti dil antea kreinti, ma se
l'Idistaro intencas aceptar me e donar a me l'oportunajo, me certe
intencas kunhavigor mea voco.

Itere me dankas vu, Eberhard, e me anticipas kun granda joyo,
kontributor al kreiva spirito di nia linguo belega!

Amikale,
Mark

 ---En idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  skribis :

 Kara Mark,
 
 me lektis tua joyiva mesajo en Facebook-forumo >idisti<
 Parlektar e "parlaborar" tra la famoza " Ido for All" dum kurta tempo, 
 qua diligenteso!
 
 Ka vu nun helpos por skribar artikli por nia jurnaleti, o skribar texti 
 por Idala wikipedio ?
 
 Omnakaze me bonvenigas vu anke en la Idolisto, la max olda e chefa 
 forumo dil Idistaro.
 
 Amikale
 Eberhard




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Anke me laudas vua konstanta diligenteso  e la tre interesiva kontenaji.

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>
> Ye ca dio, 5 aprilo...
>
> 1242. Armeo di Alexander Nevski, princo di Novgorod, vinkis armeo di 
> la Ordeno di Germana Kavalieri ye Lago Peipus, ye la nuntempa 
> frontiero inter Rusia ed Estonia. La batalio nomizesis la Batalio di 
> la Glacio, pro ke ol eventis sur la frostigita lago. La kavalieri 
> egardis la batalio kom parto di nordala kruco-milito, kontre pagani ed 
> estala ortodoxa Kristani. Alexander Nevski, qua esis exilita, esis 
> retro-vokata da la civitani di Novgorod kande la kavalieri 
> proximeskis. La batalio esis longa, e la kavalieri esis jenata pro la 
> glitiganta glacio; fine, multa kavalieri, restriktita adsur bordo di 
> la lago, falis tra dina glacio e dronesis. Pro ca vinkeso, la Ordeno 
> di Germana Kavalieri ne pluse kampaniis kontre Novgorod ed altra Rusa 
> teritorii.
>
> 1874. En Wien, la opero "Die Fledermaus" (La Vespertilio), da Johann 
> Strauss 2ma, esis unesmafoye pleata. La libreto skribesis da Karl 
> Haffner e Richard Gen�e. Ol esis la triesma kompletigita opero di 
> Strauss (pos "Indigo und die vierzig R�uber" en 1871, e "Der Karneval 
> in Rom" en 1873), e la unesma sucesoza opero di lu. Il pose kompozis 
> plura plusa operi, de qui la maxim famoza esas "Eine Nacht in Venedig" 
> (1883) e "Der Zigeunerbaron" (1885).
>
> 1923. George Herbert, la 5ma komto di Carnarvon, mortis en Kairo, 
> Egiptia, evante 56 yari. Il esis Angla aristokrato qua havis intereso 
> pri kur-kavali e rapida automobili; en 1901 il esis grave vundata en 
> automobilo-acidento. Il anke havis intereso pri Egiptala arkeologio, 
> ed en 1907 il komencis donar pekuniala susteno ad exkavadi en Egiptia. 
> En novembro 1922, arkeologo Howard Carter, employata da la komto, 
> deskovris la tombeyo di Tutankhamun; Carter e la komto kune apertis la 
> tombeyo e trovis la kontenaji. La komto mortis ye la sequanta yaro, 
> kelka dii pos ke il sufris severa moskito-mordo.
>
> Kordiale DGW
>
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Anke me laudas vua konstanta
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      Eberhard Scholz

      

      

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1242.
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                        vinkis armeo di la Ordeno di Germana Kavalieri
                        ye Lago Peipus, ye la nuntempa frontiero inter
                        Rusia ed Estonia. La batalio nomizesis la
                        Batalio di la Glacio, pro ke ol eventis sur la
                        frostigita lago. La kavalieri egardis la batalio
                        kom parto di nordala kruco-milito, kontre pagani
                        ed estala ortodoxa Kristani. Alexander Nevski,
                        qua esis exilita, esis retro-vokata da la
                        civitani di Novgorod kande la kavalieri
                        proximeskis. La batalio esis longa, e la
                        kavalieri esis jenata pro la glitiganta glacio;
                        fine, multa kavalieri, restriktita adsur bordo
                        di la lago, falis tra dina glacio e dronesis.
                        Pro ca vinkeso, la Ordeno di Germana Kavalieri
                        ne pluse kampaniis kontre Novgorod ed altra Rusa
                        teritorii.

                    


                      

                    
1874.
                        En Wien, la opero "Die Fledermaus" (La
                        Vespertilio), da Johann Strauss 2ma, esis
                        unesmafoye pleata. La libreto skribesis da Karl
                        Haffner e Richard Genée. Ol esis la triesma
                        kompletigita opero di Strauss (pos "Indigo und
                        die vierzig Räuber" en 1871, e "Der Karneval in
                        Rom" en 1873), e la unesma sucesoza opero di lu.
                        Il pose kompozis plura plusa operi, de qui la
                        maxim famoza esas "Eine Nacht in Venedig" (1883)
                        e "Der Zigeunerbaron" (1885).

                    


                      

                    
1923.

                        George Herbert, la 5ma komto di Carnarvon,
                        mortis en Kairo, Egiptia, evante 56 yari. Il
                        esis Angla aristokrato qua havis intereso pri
                        kur-kavali e rapida automobili; en 1901 il esis
                        grave vundata en automobilo-acidento. Il anke
                        havis intereso pri Egiptala arkeologio, ed en
                        1907 il komencis donar pekuniala susteno ad
                        exkavadi en Egiptia. En novembro 1922, arkeologo
                        Howard Carter, employata da la komto, deskovris
                        la tombeyo di Tutankhamun; Carter e la komto
                        kune apertis la tombeyo e trovis la kontenaji.
                        La komto mortis ye la sequanta yaro, kelka dii
                        pos ke il sufris severa moskito-mordo.

                    


                      

                    
Kordiale
                        DGW

                  

                

              

            

          

        

      

      
      

      

    

  


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Multa danko pro la mesajo.

Kordiale, David W


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>Kordiale
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>Ye ca dio, 5 aprilo...
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>>1242. Armeo di Alex=
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lieri ye Lago Peipus, ye la nuntempa frontiero inter Rusia ed Estonia. La b=
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ta lago. La kavalieri egardis la batalio kom parto di nordala kruco-milito,=
 kontre pagani ed estala ortodoxa Kristani. Alexander Nevski, qua esis exil=
ita, esis retro-vokata da la civitani di Novgorod kande la kavalieri proxim=
eskis. La batalio esis longa, e la kavalieri esis jenata pro la glitiganta =
glacio; fine, multa kavalieri, restriktita adsur bordo di la lago, falis tr=
a dina glacio e dronesis. Pro ca vinkeso, la Ordeno di Germana Kavalieri ne=
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>>
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>>1874. En =
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 vierzig R=C3=A4uber" en 1871, e "Der Karneval in Rom" en 1873), e la unesm=
a sucesoza opero di lu. Il pose kompozis plura plusa operi, de qui la maxim=
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iptia, evante 56 yari. Il esis Angla aristokrato qua havis intereso pri kur=
-kavali e rapida automobili; en 1901 il  esis grave vundata en automobilo-ac=
idento. Il anke havis intereso pri Egiptala arkeologio, ed en 1907 il komen=
cis donar pekuniala susteno ad exkavadi en Egiptia. En novembro 1922, arkeo=
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aji.
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Saluto. Me kreis nova adreso por la ret-situo Ido-Kulturo. Do, vi povas acesar du manieri:
http://sites.google.com/site/idokulturo http://sites.google.com/site/idokulturo
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Lucus, kordiala saluto de Ivan Hart.
Me dankas pri vua bonvenanta mesajo. M=
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Kun afable penso, me departas.


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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (24) 
  
  
  
 
Quankam ni ja asistabis plura e diversa-sorta, tale dicita, mirakli di Jesu, yen ke un del maxim impresanta esis olta pri la rivivigo dil puera filiino di Jairo, viro qua esis un del chefi di sinagogo. Segun semblo, la mencionita Jairo havis fresh adolecanta filiino 12-yara, qua grave maladeskabis ed esis preske mortonta... Ta viro pregis Jesu probar risanigar elu, ma, kande ilca, kun Petro, Jakobo, Jan e me ipsa, arivis proxim la domo di Jairo, on informis ni, ke l’ puerino jus mortabas, ed omnu esis ploranta... Tale, Jesu dicis: 

--Pro quo vi ploras? La puerino ne mortis, el nur dormas. 
 
Lore, ti qui esis ploranta komencis mokar Jesu pro tal vorti, nam li ja konstatabis, ke l’ filiino di Jairo advere mortabis, kontre ke Jesu jus atingabis la proximeso dil domo e ne mem vidabis la puerino... Tamen, Jesu insiste expresis sua deziro vizitar elu, ed il demandis permiso por enirar sole la chambro, ube la mortintino esis jacanta... Malgre mea nova kapablesi, me ne ja povis vidar tramure, ma me sucesis adminime audar tramure, quankam la bruiso dil populo sate difikultigis mea skopo... E lore, me pensis: “E nun, me askoltos de Jesu la famoza frazo *Talita kumi* (Leveskez, puerino!), ed elu rivivigesos da ilu, ve!”... E yes, me advere askoltis tal *Talita kumi*, ma, quik pose, me anke askoltis akuta voco, qua esis krianta e klamanta pro pavoro: 

--Helpez! Esas viro en la chambro! Viro en la chambro!
 
E no, ca-foye l’autoro dil akuta klamegi esis ne Jan, ma la puerino ipsa, qua jus riviveskabis e vidabis, apud su, adulta viro ne-konocata, qua esis direte regardanta elu, quo, segun semblo, pavorigabis elu, nam nulu altra esis enchambre... Lore, la genitori dil puerino iris quik en la rezurekteyo, e li komencis elun karezar e kalmigar per la yena vorti: 

--Filio! Filio! Ne pavorez! Ica sioro esas amiko, ed il volunte risanigis tu, qua grave maladeskabis! Dankez ilu, kisez ilu e venez repastetar! 
 
E yen ke l’ populo asistanta apen povis kredar lo jus eventinta, kande li vidis la puerino ne nur vivanta, ma mem risanigita e marchanta propra-pede... E lore me pensis pri aparta ne-kredemo qual Tomas, e quon il dicus pri to omna: “Ho! Ne-kredebla! La puerino esis advere dormanta!”. 


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Domo sen libri esas loko sen anmo.




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Kara Thomas,

yen interesiva informo !
Ka vu interesas skribar ulo mikra pri ta portalo
por nia "Ido-Saluto" ?
Cetere,
se vu ( ka me darfas anke aparolar vu per tu?)
deziras vizitar loko kun Idala anmo, lore vizitez
la Ido-arkivo en Berlin.

Do, danko e kordiala saluti
Eberhard


Von: Nefumanto  Kara samideani,
> lcwo.net esas internaciona portalo por lernar morsala kodo.
> Hodie me fondis nova grupo che lcwo.net "Ido-Radio-Amatori". La skopo esas konocigar nia linguo:
>
> http://lcwo.net/usergroups/172
>
>
> Amikala saluti de Hameln
> Thomas  DO1HEB
>
>
> Domo sen libri esas loko sen anmo.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Nehmen Sie an der internationalen Idokonferenz zu Ehren von Louis Couturat
> in der Zeit vom 13. bis zum 20. Juli 2014 in Paris teil,
> Weitere Informationen (in Ido) finden Sie unter
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> Ein Formular zur Zimmervorreservierung finden sie unter
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Bona pasko omnu!
Bona inicio, danko Thomas.
Cetere, me prizas la frazo akom=
pananta vua mesajo: domo sen libri esas loko sen anmo.
Saluti amikala,
Hans=
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Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza=
)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : nefumanto@gmail.com
Datum : 19/04/2014 11=
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Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com, germanlinguaidist@yahoogroups.de
Onderw=
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Kara samideani,
lcwo.net esas internaciona portalo por lernar morsala=
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Hodie me fondis nova grupo che lcwo.net "Ido-Radio-Amatori". La sko=
po esas konocigar nia linguo:
http://lcwo.net/usergroups/172
Amikala saluti=
 de Hameln
Thomas  DO1HEB
Domo sen libri esas loko sen anmo.
    
     
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Bona pasko omnu!
 
Bona inicio, danko Thomas.=

 
Cetere, me prizas la frazo akompananta vua mesa=
jo: domo sen libri esas loko sen anmo.
 
Saluti am=
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Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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Amatori". La skopo esas konocigar nia linguo:



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groups/172



Amikala saluti de Hameln

Thomas  DO1HEB



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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (25) 
  
  
  
 
Certen-die, kande ni pasis apud vilajo nomata Magdala, proxim l’urbo Tiberias ed anrive dil Maro di Galilea, me rimemoris ankor-foye mea voyajo en Santa Lando e mea kurta vizito en ta loko, fine dil 20ma yarcento... Lore, me advere atingabis nula vilajo nomata Magdala, ma nur plako surchosea, qua esis indikanta tal nomo; tamen, me trairabis voyeto, meze di agri kun alta tabako-planti, qua abutabis an la rivo dil granda lago, ube me renkontrabis nur un amaragita rem-bateleto, un klozita kiosketo, e nul altra homo... Me restabis ibe dum nur kelka minuti, ma me ya experiencabis enorma plezuro pro la serena beleso, quan ta marveloza loko esis a me transmisanta.  
 
Altra-latere, yen ke mencionar Magdala invitas mencionar Mariya de Magdala, qua esis ne-separebla parto dil famoza trio “Le tri Mariya”, apud Mariya (la matro di Jesu) e Mariya di Kleofas, kuzino di elca, onklino dil Nazaretano e matro di plur apostoli... E yen ke, lore, quoniam omna tri havis sama nomo, me sugestis ad eli nomesor da me Mari, Magda e Kleo... Tamen, Mariya di Kleofas quik reaktis per respondar a me lo sequanta:  
 
--Ho, no! Ne nomez me Kleo, me pregas! 
--Ma pro quo? Ol es tre bela nomo, ka ne? --me dicis. 
--Pro ke... Pro ke me ipsa nomas “Kleo” mea spozo Kleofas che nia intimeso --el explikis redeskante. 
--Ka vere? Do me nomos tu Iya, ve! Mari, Magda ed Iya. 
--Ni konsentas, ma nur pro ke tu venas de tre futura tempo... Ne misjudikez ke, nun e hike, irga viro darfas agar tale --la Magdalana klarigis da me ferma-voce, ma simpatioze. 
 
E lore, nia konversado finis, pro ke “Le tri Mariya” adeis me ed eli quik iris ensemble en sorto di latrino, konjekteble pro e por elia necesaji fiziologial... E to pensigis da me ke, mem 2000 yari plu tarde, multa mulieri duras enirar ensemble la tualeteyi, kande eli trovesas en publika loki. 
 
Ultre “Le tri Mariya”, esis plusa mulieri, qui sequis ni omna-loke, e qui mem kontributadis pekunio al komiso di Jesu... Quankam Judas Iskariot esis nia ofical kasisto, yen ke il nul-tempe disponis tro multa pekunio ensake, ma nur olta balde bezonota; tamen, me konjektis ke, malgre omno, frapo da Judas per ilua moneto-sako esus advere multe plu danjeroza kam frapo da Jan per ilua manuo-sako. 


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Mesajo da Ga=EBl Richard, che l' forumo Francidol)
 
Kara samideani,
 
Me a=
nuncas a vi la granda novajo : me trovis e vidis la tombo di Louis Couturat=
 !
 
Ol esas en la vilajo di Laroche Saint Cydroine en la departmento di Yo=
nne (Burgundia).
Laroche Saint Cydroine esas la naskovilajo di ilua patro, =
Joseph-Alexandre Couturat, qua naskis ibe en 1828 ed anke di lua avi, quale=
 la avulo di la latero di lua patro, Laurent Noel Couturat, qua naskis en L=
aroche en 1792.
 
La tombo di Louis Couturat esas en la olda parto di la to=
mbeyo di Laroche Saint Cydroine. Ol havas la numero 18 sur la mapo dil olda=
 tombeyo. Sur la tombo esas nur la yena enskriburi :
=93FAMILLE COUTURAT NO=
EL=94 (familio Couturat Noel)
e sube
=93Concession =E0 perp=E9tuit=E9=94
(p=
erpetua koncesiono)
Ma existas nula dubito : ta tombo esas vere ta di Louis=
 Couturat. Nam me iris en la municipala domo e on montris a me la registro =
di la tombeyo. En ca registro, ne esas la nomi di ti qui esis enterigita en=
 la tombi ma nur di ti qui kompris la tombi. Pri la numero 18, on lektas ke=
 la nomo di la komprinto esis :
 
=93Louis Couturat =E0 Bois-le-Roi=94
 
e =
la dato di la kompro esas : 1ma Agosto 1911.
 
Singlu ek vi savas ke taepok=
e Couturat havis domo en Bois-le-Roi. Me konjektas ke la antea koncesiono d=
i la familio ne esis perpetua e ke Couturat mustis rikomprar lu por lu ipsa=
 e ke il kompris perpetua koncesiono.
 
La tombo esas en sat mala stando ma=
 tamen ne ruptita. La stono esas kovrita per musi e likeno. La literi esas =
tamen lektebla. Cirkum la tombo esas greto de forjita fero tote rustizita. =
La tombo esas klare ne plue uzita. Sur la petrokruco super la tombostono es=
is fixigita, evidente multe plu tarde kam ilua morto, kruco ek bruna vitro =
(plexiglas ?) kun kristo e mikra literi INRI ma ta vitrokruco esas grandapa=
rte ruptita.
 
Me iris a Laroche Saint Cydroine hodie matine frue per treno=
 de Paris. On povas irar de Paris (staciono di Bercy) a la staciono di Laro=
che-Migennes en 1h20 per treno. De la staciono, me marchis cirkume 5 km til=
 la tombeyo. La vilajo di Laroche esas tre extensita alonge la precipua voy=
o ed anke alonge la rivero Yonne, qua esas ibe sat larja. La vilajo havas 1=
300 habitanti cirkume. Tre proxim la tombeyo esas bela kirko dil 12ma yarce=
nto dil romanala stilo konsakrita a Santa Cydroine (Santa Sidroine), qua su=
bisabus martirigo dum la 3ma yarcento proxim la vilajo.
 
Me rimarkis ke Bo=
is-le-Roi esas ye mivoyo inter Paris e Laroche Saint-Cydroine. Me konjektas=
 ke Couturat selektis Bois-le-Roi ne nur pro ke la cirkumaji esas belega (f=
oresto di Fontainebleau) ma anke pro ke de Bois-le-Roi il povis vehar per l=
ua automobilo ambe a Paris e a Laroche sat rapide. Segun me il havis plura =
membri di lua familio vivanta en Laroche (e ne obliviez ke lua spozino esis=
 anke ilua kuzino) e probable ke il volis renkontrar li kelkafoye. Il duris=
 havar relati kun Laroche e il kompris (o rikompris) lua familiotombo. Meao=
pinione, pri la personala historio di Louis Couturat, on subevaluas l=92imp=
ortanteso di la vilajo di lua familio ube naskis lua patro ed avi. Ma certe=
, l=92informi pri Couturat venas a ni de lia filozofiorelati od idorelati q=
ui ne savis pri lua tre privata familiala relati. La deskovro di ilua tombo=
 permisas komprenar kelke plu bone lua biografio.
 
Me sendos fotografuri d=
i la tombo quik kande to esos posibla. Regretinde, me ne havis mea fotograf=
ilo ma nur mea mikra e chipa telefonilo e do la qualeso di la fotografuri n=
e esos tre bona...
 
Kordiala Saluti
Gael Richard
Marseille


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Mesajo da Ga=EBl Richard, che l' forumo Francidol)
 
Kara samideani,
 
Me anuncas a vi la granda novajo : me trovis e vidis la tombo di Louis Co=
uturat !
 
Ol esas en la vilajo di Laroche Saint C=
ydroine en la departmento di Yonne (Burgundia).
Laroche Saint Cyd=
roine esas la naskovilajo di ilua patro, Joseph-Alexandre Couturat, qua nas=
kis ibe en 1828 ed anke di lua avi, quale la avulo di la latero di lua patr=
o, Laurent Noel Couturat, qua naskis en Laroche en 1792.
 
La tombo di Louis Couturat esas en la olda parto di la tombeyo di =
Laroche Saint Cydroine. Ol havas la numero 18 sur la mapo dil olda tombeyo.=
 Sur la tombo esas nur la yena enskriburi :
=93FAMILLE COUTURAT N=
OEL=94 (familio Couturat Noel)
e sube
=93Concession =E0=
 perp=E9tuit=E9=94
(perpetua koncesiono)
Ma existas nul=
a dubito : ta tombo esas vere ta di Louis Couturat. Nam me iris en la munic=
ipala domo e on montris a me la registro di la tombeyo. En ca registro, ne =
esas la nomi di ti qui esis enterigita en la tombi ma nur di ti qui kompris=
 la tombi. Pri la numero 18, on lektas ke la nomo di la komprinto esis :
 
=93Louis Couturat =E0 Bois-le-Roi=94
&nb=
sp;
e la dato di la kompro esas : 1ma Agosto 1911.
&nbs=
p;
Singlu ek vi savas ke taepoke Couturat havis domo en Bois-le-R=
oi. Me konjektas ke la antea koncesiono di la familio ne esis perpetua e ke=
 Couturat mustis rikomprar lu por lu ipsa e ke il kompris perpetua koncesio=
no.
 
La tombo esas en sat mala stando ma tamen ne=
 ruptita. La stono esas kovrita per musi e likeno. La literi esas tamen lek=
tebla. Cirkum la tombo esas greto de forjita fero tote rustizita. La tombo =
esas klare ne plue uzita. Sur la petrokruco super la tombostono esis fixigi=
ta, evidente multe plu tarde kam ilua morto, kruco ek bruna vitro (plexigla=
s ?) kun kristo e mikra literi INRI ma ta vitrokruco esas grandaparte rupti=
ta.
 
Me iris a Laroche Saint Cydroine hodie matin=
e frue per treno de Paris. On povas irar de Paris (staciono di Bercy) a la =
staciono di Laroche-Migennes en 1h20 per treno. De la staciono, me marchis =
cirkume 5 km til la tombeyo. La vilajo di Laroche esas tre extensita alonge=
 la precipua voyo ed anke alonge la rivero Yonne, qua esas ibe sat larja. L=
a vilajo havas 1300 habitanti cirkume. Tre proxim la tombeyo esas bela kirk=
o dil 12ma yarcento dil romanala stilo konsakrita a Santa Cydroine (Santa S=
idroine), qua subisabus martirigo dum la 3ma yarcento proxim la vilajo.
 
Me rimarkis ke Bois-le-Roi esas ye mivoyo inter Par=
is e Laroche Saint-Cydroine. Me konjektas ke Couturat selektis Bois-le-Roi =
ne nur pro ke la cirkumaji esas belega (foresto di Fontainebleau) ma anke p=
ro ke de Bois-le-Roi il povis vehar per lua automobilo ambe a Paris e a Lar=
oche sat rapide. Segun me il havis plura membri di lua familio vivanta en L=
aroche (e ne obliviez ke lua spozino esis anke ilua kuzino) e probable ke i=
l volis renkontrar li kelkafoye. Il duris havar relati kun Laroche e il kom=
pris (o rikompris) lua familiotombo. Meaopinione, pri la personala historio=
 di Louis Couturat, on subevaluas l=92importanteso di la vilajo di lua fami=
lio ube naskis lua patro ed avi. Ma certe, l=92informi pri Couturat venas a=
 ni de lia filozofiorelati od idorelati qui ne savis pri lua tre privata fa=
miliala relati. La deskovro di ilua tombo permisas komprenar kelke plu bone=
 lua biografio.
 
Me sendos fotografuri di la tomb=
o quik kande to esos posibla. Regretinde, me ne havis mea fotografilo ma nu=
r mea mikra e chipa telefonilo e do la qualeso di la fotografuri ne esos tr=
e bona...
 
Kordiala Saluti
Gael Richard=

Marseille


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Kara samideano Gael, kara gesamideani!

Kun grandega surprizo e plezuro me =
lektis l'informo da Gael koncerne la tombo di Couturat.

Me propozas inluza=
r vizito di ica tombo a la programo dil internaciona Idokonfero 2014 en Par=
is.

Pro ke me ipsa erste arivos ye la 16ma di julio ed altra samideano seg=
un mea informo mem erste ye la 17ma di julio me propozas aranjar ica vizito=
 kom totjorna exkurso ye la 18ma o ye la 19ma di julio 2014.
Volunte me sav=
eskus da la Franca aranjeri dil konfero, ka mea propozo esas realigebla e k=
ad ol fine anke realigesos.

Me predankas pro via reakto.

Dezirante a vi o=
mna agreabla semanofino me amikale e kordiale salutas vi omna.

Frank Kaspe=
r
Germania

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Kara Frank, kara samideani,

Yes ni povos vizitar la tombo. Jean Martignon =
e me, ni esas studianta ca posiblajo. La programo esos publikigita balde.

=
Amikale
Gael

From: Frank Kasper 
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 6:09 PM
To: =
IdoCatalaOccitan ; Idolisto ; Germanlinguaidist Germanlinguaidist 
Subject:=
 [idolisto] La tombo di Couturat (TROVITA!!!) - Propozo

  
Kara samideano =
Gael, kara gesamideani!

Kun grandega surprizo e plezuro me lektis l'inform=
o da Gael koncerne la tombo di Couturat.

Me propozas inluzar vizito di ica=
 tombo a la programo dil internaciona Idokonfero 2014 en Paris.

Pro ke me =
ipsa erste arivos ye la 16ma di julio ed altra samideano segun mea informo =
mem erste ye la 17ma di julio me propozas aranjar ica vizito kom totjorna e=
xkurso ye la 18ma o ye la 19ma di julio 2014.
Volunte me saveskus da la Fra=
nca aranjeri dil konfero, ka mea propozo esas realigebla e kad ol fine anke=
 realigesos.

Me predankas pro via reakto.

Dezirante a vi omna agreabla se=
manofino me amikale e kordiale salutas vi omna.

Frank Kasper
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Kara Frank, kara samideani,


 


Yes n=
i povos vizitar la tombo. Jean Martignon e me, ni esas studianta ca 
posibl=
ajo. La programo esos publikigita balde.


 


Amika=
le


Gael






 =






Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 6:09 PM

=

Subject: [idolisto] La tombo di Couturat (TROVITA!!!) - 
Propoz=
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Kara samideano Gael, kara gesami=
deani!

Kun grandega surprizo e plezuro 
me lektis l'informo da Gael =
koncerne la tombo di Couturat.

Me propozas 
inluzar vizito di ica to=
mbo a la programo dil internaciona Idokonfero 2014 en 
Paris.

Pro ke=
 me ipsa erste arivos ye la 16ma di julio ed altra samideano 
segun mea inf=
ormo mem erste ye la 17ma di julio me propozas aranjar ica vizito 
kom totj=
orna exkurso ye la 18ma o ye la 19ma di julio 2014.
Volunte me 
saveskus=
 da la Franca aranjeri dil konfero, ka mea propozo esas realigebla e kad 
o=
l fine anke realigesos.

Me predankas pro via reakto.

Dezirant=
e a 
vi omna agreabla semanofino me amikale e kordiale salutas vi omna.
=

Frank 
Kasper
Germania
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Kara Gael ed Idoamiki,

qua joyiva novajo! Danko pro tua insistema explorado.
Me sustenas la propozo di Frank koncerne komuna vizito kun posible multa 
konferonti. La dati propozata da Frank esas utila.

Amikale, Eberhard


Von: Frank Kasper  Kara samideano Gael, kara gesamideani!
>
> Kun grandega surprizo e plezuro me lektis l'informo da Gael koncerne la tombo di Couturat.
>
> Me propozas inluzar vizito di ica tombo a la programo dil internaciona Idokonfero 2014 en Paris.
>
> Pro ke me ipsa erste arivos ye la 16ma di julio ed altra samideano segun mea informo mem erste ye la 17ma di julio me propozas aranjar ica vizito kom totjorna exkurso ye la 18ma o ye la 19ma di julio 2014.
> Volunte me saveskus da la Franca aranjeri dil konfero, ka mea propozo esas realigebla e kad ol fine anke realigesos.
>
> Me predankas pro via reakto.
>
> Dezirante a vi omna agreabla semanofino me amikale e kordiale salutas vi omna.
>
> Frank Kasper
> Germania
>
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>


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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (26) 
  
  
  
  
 Me iris kun Jesu aden l’urbo Jerusalem admaxime tri foyi, e sempre proxim la Pasko-tempo... Ta-yare, dum un ek tal viziti, me havis okaziono spektar ne nur la seriozeso di Jesu, ma mem ilua iraco e violento... Ilua homal iraco e violento, qua explozis lor enirar la sakra templo, e konstatar ke ol divenabis sorto di komercacheyo... Me spektis plura epizodi violentoza de Jesu, ma nulo komparebla kun to quo eventis ta-die interne dil templo... Yen ke, unesme, Jesu paleskis, ma quik pose iraceskis, redeskis e komencis frapegar omno ibe per sorto di flogilo plur-korda, quan il ipsa facabis... Il renversis tabli e faligis ucel-kaji ed amaso de moneto-peci sursule... Ka nur uceli? Pluse, yen ke ulu desklozabis la loko, ube restabis la grosa bestiaro, ed omna bestii esis marchanta, tote libere, meze dil templo ed inter la populo, quo provokis enorma kaoso... Plur apostoli di Jesu imitis ilua exemplo e partoprenis la bruisoza e pasionoza spektaklo per frapi e kriegi... To omna rimemorigis da me, un-latere, pri konocata ludo konsistanta ek probar ruptar per bastono, kun okuli bendizita, kruchi pendanta de kordo e kontenanta donacaji diversasorta, ed altra-latere, pri tipal ceno di kantino dil tempo di Billy the Kid lor perpugna interkombato general... Me ipsa mustis advere esforcar me por restar neutral e ne partoprenar ol... E yen ke, meze dil kaoso, audesis la voco di Jesu, qua komencis klamegar: 
  
 --Mea sakra domo konstruktesis por eser prego-domo, ma vi divenigabas ol grotacho di furtisti! Cesez komercachar hike!
  
 Tal atitudo e violento astonegis omnu, nam ol esis absolute ne-expektebla de rabino; tamen, Rabino Jesu esis evidente diferanta, ka ne? Me devas agnoskar e konfesar, ke me multe prizis asistar tala spektaklo, mem sen partoprenar ol, ma me konjektas, ke me nule prizabus ol, kaze ke me esabus un del baldita e pekunio-avida komercistachi, qui esis en la templo, e qui vexegesis da Jesu... Tal-kaze, maxim probable, me frapabus krucha rabino-kapo per mea bastono por saveskar qua donacajin olta kontenas... Irga-kaze, ni omna sucesis ekirar la templo kom sana e sekura, malgre l’ granda dizastro provokita ibe. Haleluya! 
  
  
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Ye 3 Mayo...

1469. En Firenze, Niccol=F2 Machiavelli naskis. Ilua patro es=
is legisto. En 1498, kelka yari pos la ekpulso di la povoza familio Medici,=
 il divenis duesma kancelero di la republiko do Firenze, e dum sequanta yar=
i il misionale vizitis altra parti di Italia e Francia. Ilua ofico finis en=
 1512 kande le Medici riganis povo en Firenze. En 1513, akuzita pro komplot=
ar, il esis tormentata ed inkarcerigata; il esis liberigata pos tri semani.=
 En la ruro di la republiko di Firenze il skribis la famoza verko "La Princ=
o", en qua il deskriptis quale princo devas agar por retenar sua povo.=A0

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1808. Un dio pos rebeleso en Hispania kontre la okupado da trupi di Napolea=
n, multa arestita rebeli esis exekutata. En 1814, pos la finala ekpulso di =
Franca trupi, la Hispana artisto Francisco Goya kompletis pikturo, titulizi=
ta "El tres de mayo de 1808 en Madrid", qua montras la exekutado di rebeli,=
 da esquadro kun fusili. Ol esis un de paro de pikturi; la altra ("El 2 de =
mayo de 1808 en Madrid") montras kavalrio-asalto da le Mamluk, kombatante p=
or Napolean, kontre Hispana civitani.=A0

1860. Rejulo Carl 15ma di Suedia =
e Norvegia esis kronizata en Stockholm, Suedia. Ye 5 agosto di ca yaro il e=
sis kronozata en Trondheim, Norvegia. Ilua spozino, a qua il esis mariajata=
 en 1850, esis Louise, filiino di Willem 2ma di Nederlando. Preferante altr=
a homini, il havis plura amoratini, inkluzanta Elise Hwasser, qua esis note=
nda Sueda aktorino. La regno di Carl esis sucesoza; dum la regno esis impor=
tanta reformi di ekleziala e kriminala lego. Ilua moto esis: =A0"Land skall=
 med lag byggas" - "La lando konstruktesos per lego".

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1469. En Firenze, Niccol=F2 Machiavelli naskis. Ilua patro e=
sis legisto. En 1498, kelka yari pos la ekpulso di la povoza familio Medici=
, il divenis duesma kancelero di la republiko do Firenze, e dum sequanta ya=
ri il misionale vizitis altra parti di Italia e Francia.
 Ilua ofico finis =
en 1512 kande le Medici riganis povo en Firenze. En 1513, akuzita pro kompl=
otar, il esis tormentata ed inkarcerigata; il esis liberigata pos tri seman=
i. En la ruro di la republiko di Firenze il skribis la famoza verko "La Pri=
nco", en qua il deskriptis quale princo devas agar por retenar sua povo.&nb=
sp;

1808. Un dio pos rebeleso en Hispani=
a kontre la okupado da trupi di Napolean, multa arestita rebeli esis exekut=
ata. En 1814, pos la finala ekpulso di Franca trupi, la Hispana artisto Fra=
ncisco Goya kompletis pikturo, titulizita "El tres de mayo de 1808 en Madri=
d", qua montras la exekutado di rebeli, da esquadro kun fusili. Ol esis un =
de paro de pikturi; la altra ("El 2 de mayo de 1808 en Madrid") montras kav=
alrio-asalto da le Mamluk, kombatante por Napolean, kontre Hispana civitani=
. 

1860. Rejulo Carl 15ma di Sue=
dia e Norvegia esis kronizata en Stockholm,
 Suedia. Ye 5 agosto di ca yaro=
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iajata en 1850, esis Louise, filiino di Willem 2ma di Nederlando. Preferant=
e altra homini, il havis plura amoratini, inkluzanta Elise Hwasser, qua esi=
s notenda Sueda aktorino. La regno di Carl esis sucesoza; dum la regno esis=
 importanta reformi di ekleziala e kriminala lego. Ilua moto esis:  "L=
and skall med lag byggas" - "La lando konstruktesos per lego".
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Yaro Louis Couturat

Le 21 e 22 mayo, eventos konfero pri Louis Couturat en=
 la Skolo Normala Superiora di Paris (Ecole normale sup=C3=A9rieure), 45 st=
rado di Ulm (45 rue d=E2=80=99Ulm), salono Dussane (salle Dussane).

Sequez=
 la ligilo :
http://www.ens.fr/actualites/agenda/article/colloque-louis-cou=
turat

Programo
Konfero Louis Couturat
Louis Couturat (1868-1914)
Konfero o=
rganizita da Mathesis, Republiko dil Savi USR 3608

En la kadro dil program=
o tematala di Filozofio dil ENS (Skolo Normala Superiora)  (2013-2014)

Mer=
kurdio 21 mayo, salono Dussane
Prezido Sophie Roux (ENS, Paris)
09.15-09.30=
 : Michel Fichant (universitato Paris-Sorbonne), Endukto
09.30-10.30 : Oliv=
er Schlaudt (Universitato Heidelberg), =C2=AB La parkuro intelektala e biog=
rafiala di Couturat per la konoco di lua korespondado needitita =C2=BB
10.3=
0-11.00 : Pauzo
11.00-12.00 : Stephan Souli=C3=A9 (EHESS), =C2=AB Couturat =
e la reto intelektala di la Revuo di metafiziko e di etiko (Revue de m=C3=
=A9taphysique et de morale) =C2=BB
12.00-13.00 : Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Worms (=
ENS, Paris), =C2=AB Couturat e Bergson =C2=BB

Merkurdio 21 mayo, salono Du=
ssane
Prezido Michel Fichant (universitato Paris-Sorbonne)
14.00-15.00 : An=
ne-Fran=C3=A7oise Schmid (INSA, Lyon), =C2=AB Filozofio generala e matemati=
ko che Louis Couturat =C2=BB
15.00-16.00 : Dominique Pradelle (universitato=
 Paris-Sorbonne), =C2=AB L=E2=80=99infinito matematikala =C2=BB
16.00-16.30=
 : Pauzo
16.30-17.30 : Gerhardt Heinzmann (universitato di Lorraine), =C2=
=AB Couturat e Poincar=C3=A9 =C2=BB
17.30-18.30 : S=C3=A9bastien Gandon (un=
iversitato di Clermont-Ferrand), =C2=AB De la Principl(es) of mathematics t=
il la Principes des math=C3=A9matiques =C2=BB

Jovdio 22 mayo, salono Dussa=
ne
Prezido Pascal Engel (EHESS) 
09.30-10.30 : Michel Fichant (universitato=
 Paris-Sorbonne), =C2=AB Couturat interpretero ed editero di Leibniz =C2=BB=

10.30-11.30 : Jean-Pascal Anfray (ENS, Paris), =C2=AB La Leibniz di Russel=
l e la Leibniz di Couturat =C2=BB
11.30-12.00 : Pauzo
12.00-13.00 : =C3=89l=
isabeth Schwartz (universitato di Clermont-Ferrand), =C2=AB La kritiko a Ka=
nt da Couturat =C2=BB

Jovdio 22 mayo, salono Dussane
Prezido Fr=C3=A9d=C3=
=A9ric Worms (ENS, Paris),
14.00-15.00 : Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric de Buzon (unive=
rsitato di Strasbourg), =C2=AB Couturat kritikero dil nominalismo =C2=BB
15=
.00-16.00 : Sophie Roux (ENS, Paris), =C2=AB Couturat e Lalande : qua refor=
mi di la linguo ? =C2=BB
16.00-16.30 : Pauzo
16.30-17.30 : Pascal Engel (EH=
ESS) : La situeso di Couturat en la racionalismo franciana


Kordiale
Gael =
Richard

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Le 21 e 22 mayo, eventos konfero pri Louis Cou=
turat en la Skolo Normala 
Superiora di Paris (Ecole normale sup=C3=A9rieur=
e), 45 strado di Ulm (45 rue d=E2=80=99Ulm), 
salono Dussane (salle Dussane=
).


 


Sequez la ligilo :


 


Programo

Konfero Louis Couturat

Louis Couturat (1868-1914)


Konfero organizita da Mathesis, Republiko dil 
Sav=
i USR 3608


En la kadro dil pro=
gramo tematala di Filozofio 
dil ENS (Skolo Normala Superiora)  (2013-=
2014)

Merkurdio 21 ma=
yo, salono 
Dussane
Prezi=
do Sophie Roux 
(ENS, Paris)
09.15-09.30 : Michel Fichant (universitato =
Paris-Sorbonne), 
Endukto
09.30-10=
.30 : Oliver Schlaudt 
(Universitato Heidelberg), =C2=AB La parkuro intelek=
tala e biografiala di Couturat 
per la konoco di lua korespondado needitita=
 =C2=BB
10.30-11.00 : 
Pauzo
11.00-12.00 : Stephan Souli=C3=A9 (EHESS=
), =C2=AB Couturat e la reto intelektala 
di la Revuo di metafiziko e di et=
iko (Revue de m=C3=A9taphysique et de morale) 
=C2=BB
12.00-13.00 : Fr=
=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Worms (ENS, Paris), =C2=AB Couturat e Bergson 
=C2=BB
<=
BR>Merkurdio 21 mayo, salono Dussane
Prezido Michel 
Fi=
chant (universitato Paris-Sorbonne)
14.00-15.00 : Anne-Fran=C3=A7oise Sc=
hmid 
(INSA, Lyon), =C2=AB Filozofio generala e matematiko che Louis Coutur=
at 
=C2=BB
15.00-16.00 : Dominique Pradelle (universitato Paris-Sorbonne=
), =C2=AB 
L=E2=80=99infinito matematikala =C2=BB
16.00-16.30 : Pauzo16.30-17.30 : Gerhardt 
Heinzmann (universitato di Lorraine), =C2=AB Coutu=
rat e Poincar=C3=A9 =C2=BB
17.30-18.30 : 
S=C3=A9bastien Gandon (univers=
itato di Clermont-Ferrand), =C2=AB De la Principl(es) of 
mathematics til la Principes des math=C3=A9matiques 
=C2=BB

Jovdio 22 mayo, salono Dussane
Prezido Pascal Engel 
(EHESS) <=
BR>09.30-10.30 : Michel Fichant (universitato Paris-Sorbonne), =C2=AB 
Cout=
urat interpretero ed editero di Leibniz =C2=BB
10.30-11.30 : Jean-Pascal=
 
Anfray (ENS, Paris), =C2=AB La Leibniz di Russell e la Leibniz di Coutura=
t 
=C2=BB
11.30-12.00 : Pauzo
12.00-13.00 : =C3=89lisabeth Schwartz (=
universitato di 
Clermont-Ferrand), =C2=AB La kritiko a Kant da Couturat =
=C2=BB

Jovdio 22 
mayo, salono Dussane
Prezido F=
r=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Worms (ENS, 
Paris),
14.00-15.00 : Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric =
de Buzon (universitato di Strasbourg), =C2=AB 
Couturat kritikero dil nomin=
alismo =C2=BB
15.00-16.00 : Sophie Roux (ENS, Paris), 
=C2=AB Couturat e=
 Lalande : qua reformi di la linguo ? =C2=BB
16.00-16.30 : 
Pauzo
16.=
30-17.30 : Pascal Engel (EHESS) : La situeso di Couturat en la 
racionalism=
o franciana


Kordiale
Gael Richard


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me sendos e-adreso di sioro Ap Glyn a vua  privata e-adreso.
Sioro Glyn certe respondizos vua questioni.

Amikal saluto
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>
>
> Saluto amiki!  Me havas questiono, kad la Ido-Librerio en Cardiff 
> ankore vendas libri?
>
> Danko,
>
> Paul Dennett
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Kara amiko,

      

      me sendos e-adreso di sioro Ap Glyn a vua  privata e-adreso. 

      Sioro Glyn certe respondizos vua questioni.

      

      Amikal saluto

      Eberhard

      

      

      

      Betreff: [idolisto] Ido-Librerio en Cardiff

      Von: 

      Datum: 03.05.2014 11:07

    

    

      
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      libri?
      
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (27) 
  
  
  
  
 E quoniam me jus aludis l’urbo Jerusalem ed olua templo, permisez a me, nun, raportar pri ulo quo eventis anke ibe, e pri quo vi omna maxim probable informesis, ma sen la grava e preciza nuanco, quan me deziras komunikar a vi, e pri qua nul altra evengeliisto raportis... Yen ke, quale kustumale dum nia sejorni en Jerusalem, ni pasabis la nokto che l’ Monto dil Olivieri, ma, fru-matine, ni rieniris l’urbo ed iris itere al templo... Sempre plu granda nombro de homi venis askoltar Jesu, ed ilca komencis diskursar e docar al populo... Subite, yen ke trupo di piacha farizei prizentesis kun muliero, qua akuzesis pri adultero, per elqua li probis adminime nocar e senprestijigar Jesu. E li dicis lo sequanta: 
 
 --Ica muliero deskovresis en flagranta adultero e, segun la lego da Moses, ni devas stonagar el tilmorte. Quon tu dicas? 
 
 Jesu semblis restar tote mento-absenta, dum ke il esis desegnanta od skribanta per sua fingro ulo surtere... Lore, quoniam il ne respondizis la questiono, la farizei insistis e duris insistar, til ke tandem Jesu levis la kapo, regardis li omna e dicis, ante durigar sua surtera desegnuri: 
 
 --Ta de vi, qua nul-tempe pekis, ta lansez l’unesma stono! 
 
 E dum ke Jesu durigis, aparante mento-absenta, sua surtera desegnuri perfingra, yen ke eventis ulo advere remarkinda... Omna-tempe ed omna-loke esis aparta stulti, e vi saveskez, ke Jerusalem anke havis, lore, sua “stulto dil quartero”, quo equivalus nia nuna, e plu komuna, “stulto dil vilajo”... Tale, jus pos ke Jesu judiciis per sua saja frazo, yen ke audesis enorma ed aparte ridikula kriego veninta del stulto dil quartero, *kuya brakio forte retenesabis da Tomas, qua esis dop ilu, justa-tempe por impedar, ke tal idioto lansus adsur la muliero l’unesma stono, quan il esis quik lansonta... Sen tal oportuna interveno da Tomas, forsan, l’adulterintino esabus senfriste stonagata; tamen, la paroli da Jesu plus la ridikula kriego dal kretino, qua ridigis la populo, intelektigis da omnu ibe, ke nur vera stulto povus konsiderar su tote senpeka e digna stonagar pekerino... E lore, li omna renuncis punisar la muliero e, pokope ed unope, li foriris la ceneyo... E Jesu proximeskis al tremanta muliero, e dicis ad elu: 
 
 --Ube li esas? Kad ulu kondamnabas tu? 
 --No, nulu --la homino respondis.   
 --Anke me ne tun kondamnas. Forirez e ne plus pekez!  
  
 E plu tarde, viro quan me questionis pri la afero, dicis a me ulo advere hororinda (forsan il trompis me): ke ta muliero ne esas mariajita, ma nur promisita e mariajota, e ke, kaze ke el esabus mariajita, on egorjabus el direte, segun-lege.  
  
  
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Kara amiki,
Fran=C3=A7ois Hounsounou de Benin (Afrika) esos en mayo en Germ=
ania okazione Esperanto-kongreso ibe. Il anke deziras asistar l'Ido-renkont=
ro en julio. Ma ilua visto nur validesas por la monato mayo, same kam ilua =
bilieto (aviono). Kad esas posibla ke Idisti helpas lu plulongigar la visto=
-dato por lu e chanjar la dato di lua biilieto? Cetere, me ne savas ke visto=
 por Germania anke esas valida por Francia? E kad ankore esos posibla organ=
izar lito por lu?
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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Kara amiki,
 
Fran=C3=A7ois Hounsounou de Ben=
in (Afrika) esos en mayo en Germania okazione Esperanto-kongreso ibe. =
Il anke deziras asistar l'Ido-renkontro en julio. Ma ilua visto nur va=
lidesas por la monato mayo, same kam ilua bilieto (aviono). Kad esas posibl=
a ke Idisti helpas lu plulongigar la visto-dato por lu e chanjar la dato di=
 lua bilieto? Cetere, me ne savas ke visto por Germania anke esas valida po=
r Francia? E kad ankore esos posibla organizar lito por lu?
 =
;
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
=
Amsterdam
 
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Kara Hans,

ka ilu havas visto segun la Schengen-konvenciono?

Visto segun laSchengen-konvenciono esas valida anke por altra 
Schengen-landi:
http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen-konvenciono


Amikala saluti

Thomas

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Am 04.05.2014 11:13, schrieb jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl:
>
>
> Kara amiki,
> François Hounsounou de Benin (Afrika) esos en mayo en Germania 
> okazione Esperanto-kongreso ibe. Il anke deziras asistar 
> l'Ido-renkontro en julio. Ma ilua visto nur validesas por la monato 
> mayo, same kam ilua bilieto (aviono). Kad esas posibla ke Idisti 
> helpas lu plulongigar la visto-dato por lu e chanjar la dato di lua 
> bilieto? Cetere, me ne savas ke visto por Germania anke esas valida 
> por Francia? E kad ankore esos posibla organizar lito por lu?
> Saluti amikala,
> Hans Stuifbergen
> Amsterdam
> --
> La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)

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Kara Hans,

        

        ka ilu havas visto segun la Schengen-konvenciono?

        

        Visto segun la Schengen-konvenciono esas
        valida anke por altra Schengen-landi:

        http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen-konvenciono

        

        

        Amikala saluti

        

        Thomas

        

      
      
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      Am 04.05.2014 11:13, schrieb jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl:

    

    

      
      

      

      
Kara amiki,

      
 

      
François Hounsounou de Benin (Afrika) esos en mayo
        en Germania okazione Esperanto-kongreso ibe. Il anke
        deziras asistar l'Ido-renkontro en julio. Ma ilua visto nur
        validesas por la monato mayo, same kam ilua bilieto (aviono).
        Kad esas posibla ke Idisti helpas lu plulongigar la visto-dato
        por lu e chanjar la dato di lua bilieto? Cetere, me ne savas ke
        visto por Germania anke esas valida por Francia? E kad ankore
        esos posibla organizar lito por lu?

      
 

      
Saluti amikala,

      
 

      
Hans Stuifbergen

        Amsterdam

      
 

      
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        La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)

      
 

    

  


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Kara Thomas, kara Gael,
Danko pro l=C2=B4informi. Me pasigos oli a Fran=C3=
=A7ois Hounsounou. Tre utila, la texti pri la Schengen-konvenciono! Cetere,=
 me eroris: la visto di Fran=C3=A7ois Hounsounou esas por la monato di juni=
o, ne mayo.
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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ato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
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p : Re: [idolisto] plusa partoprenanto
 
 
  
    
      
      
      
  
=
  
    
Kara Hans,
        
        ka ilu havas visto segun la Schengen-ko=
nvenciono?
        
        Visto segun la Schengen-konvenciono esas
      =
  valida anke por altra Schengen-landi:
        http://io.wikipedia.org/wik=
i/Schengen-konvenciono
        
        
        Amikala saluti
        
  =
      Thomas
        
      
      
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      Am 04.05.2014 11:13, schrieb jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl:
    
  =
  
      
      
      
      
Kara amiki,
      
      
Fran=C3=A7ois Houn=
sounou de Benin (Afrika) esos en mayo
        en Germania okazione Esperant=
o-kongreso ibe. Il anke
        deziras asistar l'Ido-renkontro en julio. M=
a ilua visto nur
        validesas por la monato mayo, same kam ilua biliet=
o (aviono).
        Kad esas posibla ke Idisti helpas lu plulongigar la vis=
to-dato
        por lu e chanjar la dato di lua bilieto? Cetere, me ne sava=
s ke
        visto por Germania anke esas valida por Francia? E kad ankore
=
        esos posibla organizar lito por lu?
      
      
Saluti amikala,
 =
     
      
Hans Stuifbergen
        Amsterdam
      
      
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Danko pro l=C2=B4in=
formi. Me pasigos oli a Fran=C3=A7ois Hounsounou. Tre utila, la texti pri l=
a Schengen-konvenciono! Cetere, me eroris: la visto di Fran=C3=A7ois Hounso=
unou esas por la monato di junio, ne mayo.

Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
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        Visto segun la<=
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        valida anke por=
 altra Schengen-landi:

        http://io.wikipedia.=
org/wiki/Schengen-konvenciono

        

        

        Ami=
kala saluti

        

        Thomas

        

      
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oko sen anmo.

      Am 04.05.2014 11:13, schrieb jjstuifberge=
n1961@kpnmail.nl:

    

    

      
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Kara amiki,

      
 

   =
   
Fran=C3=A7ois Hounsounou de Benin (Afrika) esos en mayo
        en&=
nbsp;Germania okazione Esperanto-kongreso ibe. Il anke
        deziras =
;asistar l'Ido-renkontro en julio. Ma ilua visto nur
        validesas por =
la monato mayo, same kam ilua bilieto (aviono).
        Kad esas posibla ke=
 Idisti helpas lu plulongigar la visto-dato
        por lu e chanjar la dat=
o di lua bilieto? Cetere, me ne savas ke
        visto por Germania anke es=
as valida por Francia? E kad ankore
        esos posibla organizar lito por=
 lu?

      
 

      
Saluti amikala,

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Hans Stuifbergen

        Amsterdam

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Cinematografuro, bela vorto!
Saluti amikal,
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Kara samideani,

me ankore ne anuncabis la litero D di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/04/dicionario-kompleta-d.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero C di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/03/dicionario-kompleta-c.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero B di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-b.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

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Kara samideani,

me prizentas a vi hike mea projeto di la nova Dicionario Kompleta di la radiki.

Me komencis la laboro por ica dicionario en la somero dil 2012, ma pose me interruptis, e recente me rikomencis ol por kompletigar la litero A. Entote, la laboro pri ca litero duris dum un monato e duimo cirkume. Me unionis la vorti dispersita en plura dicionarii, listi e listeti qui akumulesis dum la yari, plu exakte dum la yardeki. La laboro esis harda, nam granda quanto de vorti ne havis defino, e do me mustis furnisar defino por ta omna vorti, multi de qui esas tre teknikala vorti pri diversa cienci, precipue pri biologio, pri qua me havas poka savo. Pro to, me koaktesis facar vera studio e serchado, en dicionarii ed enciklopedii papera ed interretala, por skribar la defini bezonata.

Nun, kun granda kontenteso, me povas prizentar al Idistaro l'unesma pagini di dicionario kompleta quan l'Idisti de longa tempo bezonas. Kompreneble la laboro mustas duror, por la litero B ed omna cetera literi.

Intertempe me invitas vi irar ad ica pagino por deskargar la parto komencala:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-a.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio



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Ye ca dio, 10 mayo...

1534. Duadek dii pos departo de Francia, la exploris=
to Jacques Cartier, komisita da rejulo Fran=E7ois 1ma por voyajar vers la w=
esto, atingis Kabo Bonavista, ye la nordo di Nov-Lando. Ca komiso esis asig=
nata ye 19 marto 1534, kelka yari pos ke Bretonia, ube Cartier naskis, esis=
 unionita kun Francia. Arivinte ye Nov-Lando, il segliris alonge la norda e=
 westa litori di la insulo; ca regiono esis ja konocata da Bretona peskisti=
. Il pose exploris la Gulfo di St Lawrence, fine retroirante a Francia en s=
eptembro di la yaro.

1766. La familio Mozart, facante turo di Europa por m=
ontrar la muzikala habileso di yuna Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, arivis ye la d=
uesma foyo en Paris, pos plura monati en Nederlando. La turo di Europa kome=
ncabis en julio 1763, e li rezidabis en Paris de novembro di ta yaro til ap=
rilo 1764, e pose en London til julio 1765. Pos du monati en Paris li komen=
cis retro-voyajo a Salzburg, ube li arivis en Novembro 1766. Dum la turo, m=
algre ke membri di la famili tempope sufris pro maladesi, Wolfgang muzikale=
 multe progresis, ed il esis konocata da diversa muzikala institucuri e nob=
eli.

1879. En Iowa, Usa, granda meteoro falis proxim la vilajo Estherville=
; ante ke ol atingis la tero, ol explozis aden multa parti. La explozo esis=
 spektata da rezidanti di Estherville, qui trovis tri granda parti dum sequ=
anta dii, e trovis cirkume 5000 mikra fragmenti dum sequanta monati. La max=
im granda parto, levita de 5 m di slamo, pezis cirkume 200 kg; ol esis nigr=
a kun metala cintili. La tipo di ca meteoro esas "mesosiderite": rara tipo =
qua kontenas nikelo-fero e silikato.=A0

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 10 mayo.=
..

1534. Duadek dii pos departo de Francia, la explo=
risto Jacques Cartier, komisita da rejulo Fran=E7ois 1ma por voyajar vers l=
a westo, atingis Kabo Bonavista, ye la nordo di Nov-Lando. Ca komiso esis a=
signata ye 19 marto 1534, kelka yari pos ke Bretonia, ube Cartier naskis, e=
sis unionita kun
 Francia. Arivinte
 ye Nov-Lando, il segliris alonge la no=
rda e westa litori di la insulo;
 ca regiono esis ja konocata da Bretona pe=
skisti. Il pose exploris la Gulfo di St Lawrence, fine retroirante a Franci=
a en septembro di la yaro.

1766. La =
familio Mozart, facante turo di Europa por montrar la muzikala habileso di =
yuna Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, arivis ye la duesma foyo en Paris, pos plura =
monati en Nederlando. La turo di Europa komencabis en julio 1763, e li rezi=
dabis en Paris de novembro di ta yaro til aprilo 1764, e pose en London til=
 julio 1765. Pos du monati en Paris li komencis retro-voyajo a Salzburg, ub=
e li arivis en Novembro 1766. Dum la turo,
 malgre ke membri di la
 famili =
tempope sufris pro maladesi, Wolfgang muzikale multe progresis, ed il esis =
konocata da diversa muzikala institucuri e nobeli.

1879. En Iowa, Usa, granda meteoro=
 falis proxim la vilajo Estherville; ante ke ol atingis la tero, ol explozi=
s aden multa parti. La explozo esis spektata da rezidanti di Estherville, q=
ui trovis tri granda parti dum sequanta dii, e trovis cirkume 5000
 mikra f=
ragmenti dum sequanta monati. La maxim granda parto, levita de 5 m di slamo=
, pezis cirkume 200 kg; ol esis nigra kun metala cintili. La tipo di ca met=
eoro esas "mesosiderite": rara tipo qua kontenas nikelo-fero e silikato.&nb=
sp;
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Kordiale DGW

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (28)
 
  
  
  
 Quankam on asertas, ke esis du mirakli da Jesu relatanta multopligo di pani e fishi, me povas atestar pri nur un de oli, ma ol esis advere impresanta... Ta-die, ni projetabis transirar perbatele la lago Tiberiades por probar kelke repozar sur vasta solitarajo proxim Betsaida, vilajo di Petro ed Andreas; tamen, yen ke l’ populo vidis ni e sequis ni, ped-irante, til atingir tal solitarajo, ube, fakte, multi de li arivis mem ante ke nia batelo... Lore, volunte e jeneroze, Jesu ankor-foye ‘parlis’ e docis al populo... Me balde intuicis, ke ta-die eventos multopligo di pani e fishi, e me gratulis me ipsa pro mea previdemeso kunportar preske sempre mea propra nutrivaji por evitar sufrar pro hungro... Ma, desfortunoze, me miskalkulabis ulo: ante produktesar la miraklo, me de longe ja hungris, quale la cetera homi ibe, me konjektis; tamen, la problemo esis, ke me nule audacis komencar manjar koram la nombroza e hungranta populo, qua sidis omna-loke cirkum me... Me do mustis durar hungrar, til kande l’ planajo plenigesis per amaso de pani e fishi (qui, segun semblo, esabis permirakle multopligita da Jesu de nur kin pani e du fishi entote), ed omna homi komencis manjar oli kun avideso... Erste lore, me sucesis senhungrigar e kontentigar mea stomako per mea nutrivaji, nam me preferis cedar al populo la toteso del mirakloza alimento, malgre ke olca ne nur suficis, ma mem esis ecesanta... Ho, yes, me nomizis anke ta miraklo: “Katering Kristo”. 
 
  
 Altra-latere, asertesas ke ibe kunvenis plu kam 5000 homi, sen kontar mulieri e kindi... Ho! Ma pro quo tal maniacho ne kontar mulieri e kindi?! Ka li omna ne manjis? Ka nur viri manjas? E pluse, se vi permisos a me expresar me yene, me dicos a vi, ke ibe esis plu kam 5000 homi, ma nur segun l’organizuro, kontre ke, segun la Guardo Romana, ibe kunvenabus ne plu kam 500 homi, e segun me ipsa, ni esis nek tante multa, nek tante poka, quankam mem 500 homi, fakte, ja esabus sat granda nombro de personi, ka ne? 
 
  
 Plu tarde, Jesu invitis ni retrovenar al batelo e departar, dum ke il restis ankor sur la planajo por finar adear la populo e, pose, por kelke pregar en kompleta solitareso. 
  
  
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Kar amiki,

dum la pasinta saturdio e sundio ni Idoamiki Berlin ofris itere Ido kom 
komuna linguo por la multlingua Europa.
Nia reklamo-tablo stacis en la maxim granda centro por pueri, yuni e 
familii dum "Europa-festo",
en la FEZ (www.fez-berlin.de).
Anke ni ofris quaza ludo por infanti e pueri, por montrar la facileso ni 
nia linguo.
Esis  joyo renkontrir anke interesata konverso-parteneri
Ni esis tre diligenta dum entote 13 hori, exkluzante la preparadi ed 
organizado.

Amikala saluti
Eberhard



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Kara Eberhard, Ferdinand, G=C3=BCnther, ed altra Berlinan amiki,
Bona inici=
o, tre interesanta. Danko, anke pro la fotografuro, qua montras l'intereses=
o di la publiko por Ido. Me joyas lektir ke la longa tempo (13 hori) esis f=
ruktoza!
Ido devas esar plu videbla, yen la maniero.
Saluti amikala,
Hans S=
tuifbergen
Amsterdam
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Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 12/05/2014=
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Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com, germanlinguaidist@yahoogroups.de
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Kar amiki,
dum la pasinta saturdio e sundio ni Idoamiki Berlin ofris i=
tere Ido kom 
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cis en la maxim granda centro por pueri, yuni e 
familii dum "Europa-festo"=
,
en la FEZ (www.fez-berlin.de).
Anke ni ofris quaza ludo por infanti e pue=
ri, por montrar la facileso ni 
nia linguo.
Esis  joyo renkontrir anke inte=
resata konverso-parteneri
Ni esis tre diligenta dum entote 13 hori, exkluza=
nte la preparadi ed 
organizado.
Amikala saluti
Eberhard
    
     
    
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Kara Eberhard, Ferdinand, G=C3=BCnther, ed altra Berlinan amiki,
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Bona inicio, tre interesanta. Danko, anke pro la fotografuro, qua =
montras l'intereseso di la publiko por Ido. Me joyas lektir ke la longa tem=
po (13 hori) esis fruktoza!
 
Ido devas esar plu v=
idebla, yen la maniero.
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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----Origineel Bericht----
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 : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
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Ka=
r amiki,



dum la pasinta saturdio e sundio ni Idoamiki Berlin ofris=
 itere Ido kom 

komuna linguo por la multlingua Europa.

Nia reklamo=
-tablo stacis en la maxim granda centro  por pueri, yuni e 

familii dum =
"Europa-festo",

en la FEZ (www.fez-berlin.de).

Anke ni ofris quaza =
ludo por infanti e pueri, por montrar la facileso ni 

nia linguo.

E=
sis  joyo renkontrir anke interesata konverso-parteneri

Ni esis tre dil=
igenta dum entote 13 hori, exkluzante la preparadi ed 

organizado.

=


Amikala saluti

Eberhard






    

     

    




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Kara amiki,

me publikigis nova libro de poemi:

http://ido-poezio.blogspot.com

Kordiale,

Tiberio



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Kara amiki,
Me deziras savar quale me povas komprenar la sequant frazo quan me lektis en libro: Trans Suisia e Tirol a la lando di la Germana dezirego: Italia.
Ka to esas vera, ka la Germani deziregas Italia?
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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Kara amiki,
 
Me deziras savar quale me povas komprenar la sequant frazo quan me lektis en libro: Trans Suisia e Tirol a la lando di la Germana dezirego: Italia.
 
Ka to esas vera, ka la Germani deziregas Italia?
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
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To esis vera ante multa yardeki, yarcenti e mem yarmili (exemple kande la Kimbri e Teutoni menacis la Romani ye 100 ante Kr.), ma nun de longe ne plus.
Äveratos bü dekyels, tumyels ed igo milyels (as sam ven els 'Cimbri' e 'Teutoni' ätädons Romänanis za yel 100 bü t. k.), ab nu no plu sis lunüp.



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Depos Goethe la Germaniani havis dezirego pri Italia.

Pos la Duesma Mondomilito Italia esis la unesma lando quan li povis 
atingir por vakanci.

Amikala saluti
Thomas

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Domo sen libri esas loko sen anmo.

Am 15.05.2014 13:07, schrieb 'jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl' 
jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl [idolisto]:
>
>
> Kara amiki,
> Me deziras savar quale me povas komprenar la sequant frazo quan me 
> lektis en libro: Trans Suisia e Tirol a la lando di la Germana 
> dezirego: Italia.
> Ka to esas vera, ka la Germani deziregas Italia?
> Saluti amikala,
> Hans Stuifbergen
> Amsterdam
> --
> La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
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Ye ca dio, 17 mayo...

218. La kometo di Halley (quale ol esis plu tarde no=
mizata) atingis perihelio. Olua aparo esis registrata da Chiniana astronomi=
; li vidis ol matine dum 20 dii, e pose en la vesperala cielo. Ol esis menc=
ionata da Romana historiisto Cassius Dio, qua skribis ke ol efektigis teror=
igiva pavoro. Esis supozata ke ca aparo di la kometo esis kauzo di la morto=
 di Romana imperiestro Macrinus: pos un yaro en ofico, il perdis populara s=
usteno ed altra imperiestro proklamesis; il esis exekutata en junio 218.

1=
890. En Roma, la opero "Cavalleria rusticana" ("Kavaliereso rustika") esis =
unesmafoye pleata. Ol esis la unesma kompleta opero di kompozisto Pietro Ma=
scagni; la fonto esis kurta rakonto e dramato da Giovanni Verga, pri vivado=
 en Siciliana vilajo. La pleado esis sensacionala suceso; Mascagni prenis 4=
0 kurteno-advoki. Dum la sama yaro la opero produktesis en plura altra loki=
 en Italia ed en Berlin. En Usa, produktisti rivalesis por unesmafoye prize=
ntar=A0"Cavalleria rusticana" en ta lando; ta evento esis en Philadelphia y=
e 9 septembro 1891.=A0

1902. La Antikythera-mekanismo deskovresis. Ol esas=
 komplexa mekanismo por montrar pozicioni di planeti, probable facita cirku=
me ye la unesma yarcento aK. Ol trovesis en naufrajo, deskovrita en 1900 pr=
oxim la Greka insulo Antikythera; ol esis un de la kozi prenita de la naufr=
ajo, e ne esis konocata kom notenda mekanismo til ca dio en 1902, kande ark=
eologo vidis dentizita roto inter ula krustizitajo. Olua komplexeso esis ag=
noskata dum la 1970-yardeko, kande ol esis analizata per X-radiado. Ol havi=
s cirkume 30 dentizita roti, movanta kun notenda precizeso, per qui astrono=
miala pozicioni ed eklipsi esus predicata.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 17 mayo...

218. La kometo di Halley (quale ol esis plu ta=
rde nomizata) atingis perihelio. Olua aparo esis registrata da Chiniana ast=
ronomi; li vidis ol matine dum 20 dii, e pose en la vesperala cielo. Ol esi=
s mencionata da Romana historiisto Cassius Dio, qua skribis ke ol efektigis=
 terorigiva pavoro. Esis supozata ke ca aparo di la kometo esis kauzo di la=
 morto di Romana imperiestro Macrinus: pos un yaro en ofico, il perdis popu=
lara susteno ed altra imperiestro proklamesis; il esis exekutata en junio 2=
18.

1890. En Roma, la opero "Cavalleria rusticana" ("Kavaliereso r=
ustika") esis unesmafoye pleata. Ol esis la unesma kompleta opero di kompoz=
isto Pietro Mascagni; la fonto esis kurta rakonto e dramato da Giovanni Ver=
ga, pri vivado en Siciliana vilajo. La pleado esis sensacionala suceso; Mas=
cagni prenis 40 kurteno-advoki. Dum la sama yaro la opero produktesis en
 p=
lura altra loki en Italia ed en Berlin. En Usa, produktisti rivalesis por u=
nesmafoye prizentar "Cavalleria rusticana" en ta lando; ta even=
to esis en Philadelphia ye 9 septembro 1891. 

1902. La Antikythera-m=
ekanismo deskovresis. Ol esas komplexa mekanismo por montrar pozicioni di p=
laneti, probable facita cirkume ye la unesma yarcento aK. Ol trovesis en na=
ufrajo, deskovrita en 1900 proxim la Greka insulo Antikythera; ol esis un d=
e la kozi prenita de la naufrajo, e ne esis konocata kom notenda mekanismo =
til ca dio en 1902, kande arkeologo vidis dentizita roto inter ula krustizi=
tajo. Olua komplexeso esis agnoskata dum la 1970-yardeko, kande ol esis ana=
lizata per X-radiado. Ol havis cirkume 30 dentizita roti, movanta kun noten=
da precizeso, per qui astronomiala pozicioni ed eklipsi esus predicata.

<=
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2_25">Kordiale DGW

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (29) 
  
  
  
  
 Ni do embarkis en la navo e segliris direcione a Betsaida, ma, yen ke, pro la malega vetero, qua subite produktesis, ni sucesis apen avancar, e ni restis preske senmova meze dil lago, kun fortega vento kontrea... Nokteskabis, e Jesu, qua restabis surtere, vidis ni e prikonciis nia problemo, ma nulo eventis... Tamen, pos nokto-mezo, me esis l’unesmo qua deskovris Jesu proximeskar a ni... Il esis marchanta sur l’aquo, quankam, fakte, ultre marchar, il esis anke ludanta, quaze per *surfo-sporto, kun la pasable granda ondi, qui esis atinganta ilua pedi... Me quik informis la ceteri, ke Jesu proximeskas a ni marchante suraque... Kande li tandem povis videskar ulo, li pavoris, pro ke li konjektis, ke to semblas esar sorto di fantomo, ma me insistis, ke lu esas nula spektro, sed la Maestro... 
  
 --Me nule kredas, ke to esas nia Maestro. Homi ne povas marchar sur l’aquo, pro ke ol esas ne-solida e ne suportas la pezo di nia korpo --Tomas asertis. 
 --Tamen, lo esas posibla, quankam unesme oportas lernar kelke su-levar e flotacar. Me ipsa nul-tempe probis lo, ma me savas, ke lo posiblesas, quale posiblesas to, ke me esas inter vi, nun e hike, veninte de tre fora futuro --me dicis.  
 --Me anke ne kredas to, ke tu venis del futuro, Partakael. Nulu povas venar del futuro, nam la futuro ne ja arivabas, ka yes? --Tomas duris kun sua famoza ne-kredemeso. 
 
 Intertempe, Jesu esis ja proxim la batelo, e semblis ke il mem preterpasus ol; tamen, kande il konstatis la pavoro di sua dicipuli, il ‘parlis’ a ni yene: 
 --Ne pavorez! Esas me ipsa! Nule suciez! 
 Lore Petro, maxim audacoze, klamis: 
 --Se esas advere tu, Maestro, voluntez imperar a me marcher sur l’aquo e vener a tu!
 --Venez! Venez a me! --Jesu invitis Petro, pos mikra pauzo por kelke kalmigar la forta tempesto. 
 E yen ke Petro ekiris la navo e komencis marchetar sur l’aquo, dum ke Tomas prenis remilo e submersis ol, frenezioze, quaze il serchus ulo solida sub la piedi di Petro. 
 
 Tamen, pos plura pazi, la vento kelke retrovenis, e yen ke Petro pavoreskis, cesis marchetar e komencis sinkar...
 --Maestro! Helpez me! Salvez me, me pregas! 
 --Ho, viro poke fidema! Pro quo tu ‘dubtis’ e hezitis? Ka pro nura vento-stroko? --Jesu dicis dum sizar la manuo di Petro. 
 E lore, li amba duris marchetar suraque til atingir la batelo e, jus enirir ol Jesu, la tempesto tote desaparis, e ni omna arivis kom sana e sekura an la punto dil lago, quan ni vizabis. 
  
 Nur adjuntar ke, ca-kaze, Jesu ne mustis reprimandar la tempesto por ke ol desaparez; tamen, altra-foye, me asistis severa reprimando dal Nazaretano al vento, quo, anekdotale, pensigis da me pri mea propra kustumo reprimandar vento e pluvo, kande li esas troduranta, jenanta e desoportuna... La unika e grava difero es, ke Jesu reprimandis en l’Arameana ed esis quik sucesoza, kontre ke me (e yen plusa enigmato), reprimandas Angla-lingue (e forsan mem ne tote juste), obtenante nula suceso, ecepte la juo klamegar: “Stop winding! Stop raining!” (La vento cesez! La pluvo cesez!). 
  
  
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Subject: Re: [idolisto] EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL (29)
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On 18/05/2014 03:00, qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] wrote:
> EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (29)
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>   Ni do embarkis en la navo e segliris direcione a Betsaida, ma, yen ke, pro la malega vetero, qua subite produktesis, ni sucesis apen avancar, e ni restis preske senmova meze dil lago, kun fortega vento kontrea... Nokteskabis, e Jesu, qua restabis surtere, vidis ni e prikonciis nia problemo, ma nulo eventis... Tamen, pos nokto-mezo, me esis l’unesmo qua deskovris Jesu proximeskar a ni... Il esis marchanta sur l’aquo, quankam, fakte, ultre marchar, il esis anke ludanta, quaze per *surfo-sporto, kun la pasable granda ondi, qui esis atinganta ilua pedi... Me quik informis la ceteri, ke Jesu proximeskas a ni marchante suraque... Kande li tandem povis videskar ulo, li pavoris, pro ke li konjektis, ke to semblas esar sorto di fantomo, ma me insistis, ke lu esas nula spektro, sed la Maestro...
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>   --Me nule kredas, ke to esas nia Maestro. Homi ne povas marchar sur l’aquo, pro ke ol esas ne-solida e ne suportas la pezo di nia korpo --Tomas asertis.
>   --Tamen, lo esas posibla, quankam unesme oportas lernar kelke su-levar e flotacar. Me ipsa nul-tempe probis lo, ma me savas, ke lo posiblesas, quale posiblesas to, ke me esas inter vi, nun e hike, veninte de tre fora futuro --me dicis.
>   --Me anke ne kredas to, ke tu venis del futuro, Partakael. Nulu povas venar del futuro, nam la futuro ne ja arivabas, ka yes? --Tomas duris kun sua famoza ne-kredemeso.
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>   Intertempe, Jesu esis ja proxim la batelo, e semblis ke il mem preterpasus ol; tamen, kande il konstatis la pavoro di sua dicipuli, il ‘parlis’ a ni yene:
>   --Ne pavorez! Esas me ipsa! Nule suciez!
>   Lore Petro, maxim audacoze, klamis:
>   --Se esas advere tu, Maestro, voluntez imperar a me marcher sur l’aquo e vener a tu!
>   --Venez! Venez a me! --Jesu invitis Petro, pos mikra pauzo por kelke kalmigar la forta tempesto.
>   E yen ke Petro ekiris la navo e komencis marchetar sur l’aquo, dum ke Tomas prenis remilo e submersis ol, frenezioze, quaze il serchus ulo solida sub la piedi di Petro.
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>   Tamen, pos plura pazi, la vento kelke retrovenis, e yen ke Petro pavoreskis, cesis marchetar e komencis sinkar...
>   --Maestro! Helpez me! Salvez me, me pregas!
>   --Ho, viro poke fidema! Pro quo tu ‘dubtis’ e hezitis? Ka pro nura vento-stroko? --Jesu dicis dum sizar la manuo di Petro.
>   E lore, li amba duris marchetar suraque til atingir la batelo e, jus enirir ol Jesu, la tempesto tote desaparis, e ni omna arivis kom sana e sekura an la punto dil lago, quan ni vizabis.
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>   Nur adjuntar ke, ca-kaze, Jesu ne mustis reprimandar la tempesto por ke ol desaparez; tamen, altra-foye, me asistis severa reprimando dal Nazaretano al vento, quo, anekdotale, pensigis da me pri mea propra kustumo reprimandar vento e pluvo, kande li esas troduranta, jenanta e desoportuna... La unika e grava difero es, ke Jesu reprimandis en l’Arameana ed esis quik sucesoza, kontre ke me (e yen plusa enigmato), reprimandas Angla-lingue (e forsan mem ne tote juste), obtenante nula suceso, ecepte la juo klamegar: *“Stop winding!* Stop raining!” (La vento cesez! La pluvo cesez!).
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>   Saluti e til balde!
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Kisi sinifon-li notodot Linglänapükik: "Stop blowing"?
Quon signifikas la expresuro angla "stop blowing"?



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Korektigo da sro. Ralph Midgley, vice 'stop winding' on dicas (Angle): 'sto=
p blowing'. Segun mea savo (e Dyer), l'Angla verbo 'to wind' signifikas 'vi=
ndar'. 'Blowing' =3D suflar; ventar. (Bob Dylan: La respondo me'amik', sufl=
esas da la vent') (Marlene Dietrich: La respondo me'amik', nur savesas da l=
a vent').
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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Korektigo da sro. Ralph Midgley, vice 'stop winding' on dicas (Angle):=
 'stop blowing'. Segun mea savo (e Dyer), l'Angla verbo 'to wind' signifika=
s 'vindar'. 'Blowing' =3D suflar; ventar. (Bob Dylan: La respondo me'amik',=
 suflesas da la vent') (Marlene Dietrich: La respondo me'amik', nur savesas=
 da la vent').
 
Saluti amikala,
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Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
 
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Datum : 18/05/2014 18:58
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Got it! Nu esuemob atosi. Nun me komprenis to. 
Ävienos, e Yesus äbüdom, das vien finikonöd.
Ventis, e Jesus imperis ad vento cesar.



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* 'to wind' anke signifikas : forte pugno-frapar stomako de altra 
persono, exemple in box-konkurso (he winded his opponent) o : 
ne-expektata pugno-frapo kontre la stomako dum lukto  (to wind an attacker).


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> Korektigo da sro. Ralph Midgley, vice 'stop winding' on dicas (Angle): 'stop blowing'. Segun mea savo (e Dyer), l'Angla verbo 'to wind' signifikas *'vindar'*. 'Blowing' = suflar; ventar. (Bob Dylan: La respondo me'amik', suflesas da la vent') (Marlene Dietrich: La respondo me'amik', nur savesas da la vent').
> Saluti amikala,
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> Amsterdam
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Ye ca dio, 24 mayo...

1803. En Wien, la Sonato no. 9 por violino e piano (=
la "Kreutzer-sonato"), da Ludwig van Beethoven, esis unesmafoye pleata, ye =
la Augarten-teatro, da violinisto George Bridgetower kun Beethoven ye piano=
. La verko originale esis dedikata a Bridgetower. Tamen, pos la koncerto, d=
um ke la du muzikisti esis drinkanta, Beethoven sentis su insultata da Brid=
getower, ed il efacis la dedikado; vicee, il dedikis la verko a Rodolphe Kr=
eutzer. Kreutzer, distingita violinisto di ta tempo, ne prizis la muziko di=
 Beethoven, ed il nultempe pleis ca sonato.

1883. En Nova-York, Usa, la Br=
ooklyn-ponto esis apertata. Ol konektas Manhattan kun la estala distrikto B=
rooklyn. La ponto esis desegnata da John Augustus Roebling; dum surveyado d=
i la konstruktado-loko, il sufris vunduro e mortis kurte pose. La projeto e=
sis pose direktata da lua filiulo Washington Roebling. Debiligita pro desko=
mpreso-maladeso, il direktis la projeto de sua apartmento de qua il povis s=
pektar la laboro. Il esis multe helpata da sua spozino Emily, qua studiis l=
a teorio di materii, kablo-konstruktado ed altraji necesa por la projeto. Y=
e la aperto-ceremonio, Emily Roebling esis la unesma qua iris trans la pont=
o per veturo.

1918. En Budapest, la opero "A k=E9kszak=E1ll=FA herceg v=E1=
ra" (La kastelo di la blua-barboza duko), da B=E9la Bart=F3k, esis unesmafo=
ye pleata. La libreto esis skribata da B=E9la Bal=E1sz, qua esis poeto ed a=
miko di Bart=F3k. La origino di la libreto esis Franca rakonto "La Barbe bl=
eue", pri violentema nobelo qua ocidas sua spozini; =A0singla nova spozino =
esforcas evitar la fato di la antea. La longeso dil opero esas cirkume un h=
oro; du karakteri (la duko e lua amorantino Judith) havas kantanta roli.

K=
ordiale DGW

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Ye ca dio, 24 mayo...

1803. En Wien, la Sonato no. 9 por violino e piano=
 (la "Kreutzer-sonato"), da Ludwig van Beethoven, esis unesmafoye pleata, y=
e la Augarten-teatro, da violinisto George Bridgetower kun Beethoven ye pia=
no. La verko originale esis dedikata a Bridgetower. Tamen, pos la koncerto,=
 dum ke la du muzikisti esis drinkanta, Beethoven sentis su insultata da Br=
idgetower, ed il efacis la dedikado; vicee, il dedikis la verko a Rodolphe =
Kreutzer. Kreutzer, distingita violinisto di ta tempo, ne prizis la muziko =
di Beethoven, ed il nultempe pleis ca sonato.

1883. En Nova-York, =
Usa, la Brooklyn-ponto esis apertata. Ol konektas Manhattan kun la estala d=
istrikto
 Brooklyn. La ponto esis desegnata da John Augustus Roebling; dum =
surveyado di la konstruktado-loko, il sufris vunduro e mortis kurte pose. L=
a projeto esis pose direktata da lua filiulo Washington Roebling. Debiligit=
a pro deskompreso-maladeso, il direktis la projeto de sua apartmento de qua=
 il povis spektar la laboro. Il esis multe helpata da sua spozino Emily, qu=
a studiis la teorio di materii, kablo-konstruktado ed altraji necesa por la=
 projeto. Ye la aperto-ceremonio, Emily Roebling esis la unesma qua iris tr=
ans la ponto per veturo.

=

1918. En Budapest, la opero "A k=E9kszak=
=E1ll=FA herceg v=E1ra" (La kastelo di la blua-barboza duko), da B=E9la Bar=
t=F3k, esis unesmafoye pleata. La libreto esis skribata da B=E9la Bal=E1sz,=
 qua esis poeto ed amiko di Bart=F3k. La origino di la libreto esis Franca =
rakonto "La Barbe bleue", pri violentema nobelo qua ocidas sua spozini; &nb=
sp;singla nova spozino esforcas evitar la fato di la antea. La longeso dil =
opero esas cirkume un horo; du karakteri (la duko e lua amorantino Judith) =
havas kantanta roli.

Kordiale DGW

=


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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (30) 
  
  
  
  
 Sempre, kande ni voyajis de Galilea aden Judea, ni kustumis vizitar Lazaro ed ilua fratini, qui esis maxim gastigema e jentila kun ni omna. E yen ke, certen-die, ja en Judea, ulu venis a ni, sendita da Marta e Mariya, por urjante informar Jesu, ke Lazaro grave maladeskis, e por pregar la Maestro irer a Betania tam balde kam posibla... Lore, Jesu demandis del sendito retrovener al vilajo e dicer al fratini, ke il esas ja survoye a Betania... Tamen, yen ke Jesu nule hastis irar che Lazaro, malgre ke ilua dicipuli, de tempo a tempo, insistis rimemorigar da ilu pri l’ mala sanesal stando dil amiko... Nur me ipsa sucesis komprenar, lore, pro quo Jesu reaktis tale, quaze il havus advere nula intereso arivar en Betania justa-tempe por vidar e helpar Lazaro... Kande ni tandem atingis la vilajo e la domo di nia karega geamiki, Marta haste venis a ni, ed informis Jesu pri la morto di elua frato:  
 
 --Maestro: se tu esabus hike, mea fratulo ne mortabus. 
 
 --Ube vi depozabas ilua korpo? --Jesu questionis el. 
 
 --Venez, e me montros lo a tu, Maestro! 
 
 Lore, survoye ad ibe, aparis la fratino di Marta, Mariya, qua esis ploranta, e qua dicis a Jesu simila vorti kam olti di elua fratino... Kande ni esis apud la tombo di Lazaro, yen ke Jesu, quan me vidis anke lakrimifar, imperis foriger la rokego, qua stopis olua enireyo, ed il insistis prie, malgre ke on informis ni, ke Lazaro mortabas ye quar dii antee, e ke l’ kadavro, maxim probable, malodoras... Esis ibe sempre plu multa populo kurioza saveskar quon Jesu agos... Se il arivabus justa-tempe, la probabla risanesko di Lazaro genitabus nul aparta admiro dal populo; tamen, la rivivigo di quar-dia mortinto produktus admiro senlimita... E lore, kande l’ tombo di Lazaro apertesis, Jesu pregis Deo, e pose imperis laute: 
 
 --Lazaro! Ekirez! Ekirez adhike! 
 
 Askoltinte tal vorti, omna spektanti restis forte impresata, e Tomas, qua esis apud me, klamis astonita: 
 
 --Ma quon la Maestro agas?! Kad il foleskis pro perdir sua amiko? Lazaro mortis ye quaro de dii ante nun, e mortinti ne povas riviveskar ed ekirar lia tombi. Ho, mea Deo! 
 
 E yen ke Lazaro advere ekiris sua tombo, ed aparis koram ni omna, efektiginte mixuro de ne-kredebleso ed admiro... Me devas konfesar, ke, quoniam l’aspekto dil riviviginto esis kelke mumiatra e pavoriganta, me nule hastis irar salutar lu ed embracar lu, quale me facabis kun ilua fratini... 
 
 E yen ke Tomas, qua restabis bok-apertita quale la tombo, sucesis nur balbutar lo yena: 
 
 --Ho! Me komprenas nulo. Se Lazaro esis nur dormanta, quale l’ filiino di Jairo, o celita en la tombo..., pro quo on asertis, ke lu mortabas? To omna esas tre stranja, ka ne? 
  
  
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Bona jorno,

hodie matene me volis kontrolar quale on dicas "fingro" per Ido. Me 
surprezesis, ke ol selektis la sama vorto kam en Esperanto. Segun la 
regulo di la 6 fonto-linguii me expektabus la radiko "digito", olqua 
semblas/a priori/ plu internaciona. Interlingua precize selektis ta radiko.

To pensigas da me ke existas en Ido altra kriterii di radik-selekto quin 
me ne konocas. Kad ulu povus kurte parlar prie − o forsan indikar pagino 
ube trovesas ta informo?

Me predankas!
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    Bona jorno,

      

      hodie matene me volis kontrolar quale on dicas "fingro" per Ido. Me surprezesis,
      ke ol selektis la sama vorto kam en Esperanto. Segun la regulo di
      la 6 fonto-linguii me expektabus la radiko "digito", olqua semblas
        a priori plu internaciona. Interlingua precize selektis ta
      radiko.

      

      To pensigas da me ke existas en Ido altra kriterii di
      radik-selekto quin me ne konocas. Kad ulu povus kurte parlar prie
      − o forsan indikar pagino ube trovesas ta informo?

      

      Me predankas!

    
    
-- 

      Christophe Chazarein

      Tél.: (+33)-631-80-40-07

    

  


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Kara Christophe,

Supozeble "fingro" preferesis nam "digito" kreus ambigueso pri la senco di "digitala", pro existo di altra vorto, "digitalo" (planto). En Interlingua on poke sucias pri ambigueso.

Nuntempe esas bezono por plusa simila vorto, *digitala o *dijitala, pri aparati qui funcionas per kalkulo ed/od prizento di nombri, kontraste a ti qui esas *analoga od *analoja.

Kordiale,
Robert C.


On Sun, 25 May 2014 09:15:00 +0200, Christophe Chazarein ch.chazarein@gmail.com [idolisto] wrote: 
 Bona jorno,

 hodie matene me volis kontrolar quale on dicas "fingro" per Ido. Me surprezesis, ke ol selektis la sama vorto kam en Esperanto. Segun la regulo di la 6 fonto-linguii me expektabus la radiko "digito", olqua semblas a priori plu internaciona. Interlingua precize selektis ta radiko.

       To pensigas da me ke existas en Ido altra kriterii di       radik-selekto quin me ne konocas. Kad ulu povus kurte parlar prie       − o forsan indikar pagino ube trovesas ta informo?

 Me predankas!

-- 
 Christophe Chazarein
 Tél.: (+33)-631-80-40-07




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Kara amiki,
Progreso 358 jus imprimesis e dissendesis. La numero kontenas diversa interesanta artikli, e multa informi pri Couturat (precipue de ca forumi).
Un artiklo esas la traduko de libreto pri Otto Witte, Germana rejo di Albania komence la pasinta yarcento. Esas tre interesanta. Me lektis "La centi yari evanta qua ekiris la fenestro e desaparis", la sueda vendo-suceso e nun anke filmo pri aventurero, da skriptisto Jonas Jonasson.
Otto Witte vivis vivo tam aventuroze kam Allan,, la protagonisto di "La cent yari evanta qua ekiris la fenestro e desaparis", ma la difero esas ke la vivo di nia sueda aventuristo esas fingita, dum ke la vivo di Otto Witte esis reala. Ja pro ta fakto, me estimas ol plu aventuroza kam Allan. Segun me, ol anke meritas filmigo. Perdo del oblivieso e honoro ad Otto Witte, qua ulafoye renkontris futural Idisto, ma pri to on lektas en Progreso.
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)

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Kara amiki,
 
Progreso 358 jus imprimesis e d=
issendesis. La numero kontenas diversa interesanta artikli, e multa informi=
 pri Couturat (precipue de ca forumi).
 
Un artikl=
o esas la traduko de libreto pri Otto Witte, Germana rejo di Albania k=
omence la pasinta yarcento. Esas tre interesanta. Me lektis "La centi yari =
evanta qua ekiris la fenestro e desaparis", la sueda vendo-suceso e nun ank=
e filmo pri aventurero, da skriptisto Jonas Jonasson.
 
Otto Witte vivis vivo tam aventuroze kam Allan,, la protagonisto di "=
La cent yari evanta qua ekiris la fenestro e desaparis", ma la difero esas =
ke la vivo di nia sueda aventuristo esas fingita, dum ke la vivo di Otto Wi=
tte esis reala. Ja pro ta fakto, me estimas ol plu aventuroza kam Allan. Se=
gun me, ol anke meritas filmigo. Perdo del oblivieso e honoro ad Otto Witte=
, qua ulafoye renkontris futural Idisto, ma pri to on lektas en Progre=
so.
 
Saluti amikala,
 
H=
ans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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B. de Spinoza)

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Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero E di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/05/dicionario-kompleta-e.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Kara samideani,

me ankore ne anuncabis la litero D di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/04/dicionario-kompleta-d.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

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Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero C di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/03/dicionario-kompleta-c.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero B di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-b.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

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Kara samideani,

me prizentas a vi hike mea projeto di la nova Dicionario Kompleta di la radiki.

Me komencis la laboro por ica dicionario en la somero dil 2012, ma pose me interruptis, e recente me rikomencis ol por kompletigar la litero A. Entote, la laboro pri ca litero duris dum un monato e duimo cirkume. Me unionis la vorti dispersita en plura dicionarii, listi e listeti qui akumulesis dum la yari, plu exakte dum la yardeki. La laboro esis harda, nam granda quanto de vorti ne havis defino, e do me mustis furnisar defino por ta omna vorti, multi de qui esas tre teknikala vorti pri diversa cienci, precipue pri biologio, pri qua me havas poka savo. Pro to, me koaktesis facar vera studio e serchado, en dicionarii ed enciklopedii papera ed interretala, por skribar la defini bezonata.

Nun, kun granda kontenteso, me povas prizentar al Idistaro l'unesma pagini di dicionario kompleta quan l'Idisti de longa tempo bezonas. Kompreneble la laboro mustas duror, por la litero B ed omna cetera literi.

Intertempe me invitas vi irar ad ica pagino por deskargar la parto komencala:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-a.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio



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n marto 1808, koncerto eventis por honorizar Haydn, pleante ilua verko "La =
Kreado"; la kompozisto esis salutata da Beethoven ed altra muzikisti e nobe=
li. En mayo 1809 la armeo di Napol=E9on invadis Wien. Por sekurigar Haydn, =
Napol=E9on postenizis gardisto ye lua domo. Esas dicata ke la oficiro ye lu=
a hemo, qua esis muzikema, kantis ario da Haydn por amuzar la komposisto.=
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1911. En Belfast, Irlando, la nav-korpo di la Titanic lansesis. Konstr=
uktado di la navo komencis en marto 1909. 2000 stala plaki, la plu multa ha=
vanta cirkume larjeso 1,8 m e longeso 9,1 m, divenis parti di la nav-korpo;=
 li esis juntita kun plu kam 3 mil riveti. Cirkume 100.000 spektanti vidis =
la lanseso. La navo esis equipata dum la sequanta monati, e maro-probi kome=
ncis ye 2 aprilo 1912. La unesma voyajo kun pasajanti, qua finus tragediale=
, komencis ye 10 aprilo di ta yaro.

Kordiale DGW
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ti e Siria.

1809. En Wien, la kompozisto Joseph Haydn mortis, evante=
 77 yari. Dum la lasta yari il esis debila e ne pluse povis kompozar. En ma=
rto 1808, koncerto eventis por honorizar Haydn, pleante ilua verko "La Krea=
do"; la kompozisto esis
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ol=E9on postenizis gardisto ye lua domo. Esas dicata ke la oficiro ye lua h=
emo, qua esis muzikema, kantis ario da Haydn por amuzar la komposisto. =
;

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1911=
. En Belfast, Irlando, la nav-korpo di la Titanic lansesis. Konstruktado di=
 la navo komencis en marto 1909. 2000 stala plaki, la plu multa havanta cir=
kume larjeso 1,8 m e longeso 9,1 m, divenis parti di la nav-korpo; li esis =
juntita kun plu kam 3 mil riveti. Cirkume 100.000 spektanti vidis la lanses=
o. La navo esis equipata dum la sequanta monati, e maro-probi komencis ye 2=
 aprilo 1912. La unesma voyajo kun pasajanti, qua finus tragediale, komenci=
s ye 10 aprilo di ta
 yaro.

Kordiale DGW

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (31) 
  
  
  
  
 
 Se to omna semblis al amiko Tomas esar tre stranja, multe plu stranja e ne-kredebla semblabus ad ilu ulo, quon on asertas eventir ye kelka yarcenti pose, e quon me preferis ne raportor al apostolo, ma yes a vi omna, kara lekteri. 
 
  
 
 Yen ke, dum la mez-epoko, mea samlandano Sant Vicent Ferrer, religiozo dominikana, e famoza, i.a., pro ilua preske mil mirakli atestita (840 mirakli, se me juste memoras), esis en l’urbeto Morella, lokizita nord-weste di Valencia-lando e, yen ke, atinginte certena domo, il demandis de muliero ibe doner ad ilu ulo por manjar, nam ilu esis hungranta... Ta povra muliero havis nulo por ofrar ad ilu, ma el aceptis invitar Patro Vicent... Tale, la kompatinda homino, qua sive folesis, sive foleskis lore, sakrifikis sua propra fresha bebeo, pecetigis lu, e koquis lu por kontentigar la santo per ecelanta disho, nome sorto di “paella de fill tendre esquarterat a la morellana” (enpadela rizo kun fresha filio pecetigita Morella-stile). Kande ta muliero prontesis tranchar karno por servar Sant Vicent, il quik divinis lo eventinta, e sucesis permirakle  rivivigar la bebeo... Me ipsa vidabas enskriburo anmura, qua atestas la konkreta domo, ube tal prodajo produktesis... E yen kelko plusa: segun semblo, simila miraklo, ma mem triopla, ja efektigesabis altra-lande da Santa Nikolao, anka miraklo-specalisto.  
 
  
 
 Ho, yes! Sant Vicent Ferrer esis maxim miraklifanta... On asertas, ke il predikis en granda parto de Europa, sempre per sua linguo Valenciana, e ke omnu komprenis ilua vorti senprobleme, precipue la populi Latinida, ma anke la Britaniani e mem la Germani... Uli dicas, ke tal fenomeno esis un de ilua grava mirakli... Altri argumentas ke, lore, la Latina esis bone konocata en Europa, e ke la lingui Latinida esis multe plu proxima inter su (ed a la Latina ipsa), kam oli esus lo en posa epoki... E fine, existas triesma grupo, qua afirmas, ke la Valenciana da mea samlandano esis tre facile komprenebla, e ke per ol il sucesis konvertar amaso de homi al Kristanismo, pro ke, dumpredike, il esis indikanta la kruco, un-latere, e la rogo, altra-latere... Ho! Se ta lasta teorio esus vera, me certesas ke irga populo komprenabus ne nur la Valenciana, ma anke Volapük e mem Kotava, kaze ke ta helpo-lingui ja existabus ta-tempe... E fakte, quankam oli ne ja kreesabis, irga populo same komprenabus oli, ka ne? 
  
  
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me publikigis la litero F di la dicionario:

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me publikigis la litero E di la dicionario:

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Tiberio

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me ankore ne anuncabis la litero D di la dicionario:

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Tiberio

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me publikigis la litero C di la dicionario:

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Tiberio

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Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero B di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-b.html

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Tiberio

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Kara samideani,

me prizentas a vi hike mea projeto di la nova Dicionario Kompleta di la radiki.

Me komencis la laboro por ica dicionario en la somero dil 2012, ma pose me interruptis, e recente me rikomencis ol por kompletigar la litero A. Entote, la laboro pri ca litero duris dum un monato e duimo cirkume. Me unionis la vorti dispersita en plura dicionarii, listi e listeti qui akumulesis dum la yari, plu exakte dum la yardeki. La laboro esis harda, nam granda quanto de vorti ne havis defino, e do me mustis furnisar defino por ta omna vorti, multi de qui esas tre teknikala vorti pri diversa cienci, precipue pri biologio, pri qua me havas poka savo. Pro to, me koaktesis facar vera studio e serchado, en dicionarii ed enciklopedii papera ed interretala, por skribar la defini bezonata.

Nun, kun granda kontenteso, me povas prizentar al Idistaro l'unesma pagini di dicionario kompleta quan l'Idisti de longa tempo bezonas. Kompreneble la laboro mustas duror, por la litero B ed omna cetera literi.

Intertempe me invitas vi irar ad ica pagino por deskargar la parto komencala:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-a.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio




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Idorenkontro Paris 2014

Memorigo di Louis Couturat

Programo


Sundio 13 j=
ulio
Arivo
Dineo : CISP Kellermann (18h30-20h30) od altraloke segun deziro.=


Lundio 14 julio
Matine : Ti qui deziros vidar la defilo militala dil 14 j=
ulio iros frue kun Ga=C3=ABl Richard a l=E2=80=99avenuo dil Champs-Elys=C3=
=A9es por trovar bona plaso. La ceteri iros kun Jean Martignon vizitar la p=
alaco e gardeno dil Luxembourg.
Dejuno : en la quartero dil Marais.
Posdime=
ze : Vizito dil quartero dil Marais (=C2=AB Marsho =C2=BB), placo dil Vosge=
s e vizito dil indiana quartero proxim la staciono Gare de l=E2=80=99Est.
D=
ineo : CISP Kellermann (18h30-20h30) od altraloke segun deziro.

Mardio 15 =
julio
Matine 9h-13h : konfero di laboro en la salono Orsay di CISP Kellerma=
nn.
Dejuno : CISP Kellermann.
Posdimeze : Vizito dil quartero Montmartre, b=
aziliko dil Sacr=C3=A9-C=C5=93ur (Sakra Kordio).
Vizito dil Buttes-Chaumont=
 (Kolineti Chaumont).
Dineo : CISP Kellermann (18h30-20h30) od altraloke se=
gun deziro.

Merkurdio 16 julio
Matine 9h-12h : konfero di laboro en la sal=
ono Orsay di CISP Kellermann.
Dejuno : CISP Kellermann.
La quartero di la y=
uneso di Louis Couturat
Ni iros en la quartero di la granda bulvardi (Paris=
 Haussmannala). De la metro-staciono Chauss=C3=A9e d=E2=80=99Antin, ni marc=
hos tra la bulvardo Haussmann til la domo ube Louis Couturat naskis ye la 1=
7 januaro 1868, 27 strado di la Chauss=C3=A9e d=E2=80=99Antin. Deibe ni mar=
chos til la splendida Opero Garnier quan ni vizitos. Pose ni pasos preter l=
a Granda Butiki (Grands Magasins) Printemps e Galeries Lafayette e ni iros =
a la liceo Condorcet ube Louis Couturat esis ecelantega dicipulo dum multa =
yari (ni forsan vizitos la liceo se ni havas la permiso di la direktoro). N=
i marchos preter la staciono Gare Saint Lazare til la domo 29 strado di Ber=
n (rue de Berne) ube Louis Couturat vivis kun sua genitori adminime til sua=
 mariajo en 1896 ed ube mortis ilua matro en 1894.
Dineo : CISP Kellermann =
(18h30-20h30) od altraloke segun deziro.

Jovdio 17 julio
Louis Couturat e =
la Quartero latina
Ni vidos la domo ube Louis Couturat habitis dum la perio=
do di la Delegaciono (7 strado Pierre Nicole). Pose ni vidos la Skolo Norma=
la Superiora (Ecole Normale Sup=C3=A9rieure, 45 strado di Ulm) ube Louis Co=
uturat studiis dum 4 yari de 1887 (ed anke Leopold Leau e Andre Lalande). N=
i marchos tra la mikra stradi di la quartero, quale la strado Mouffetard, a=
 la placo di la kontreskarpo e pose a la kirko Saint-Etienne-du-Mont (Santa=
 Etienne dil Monto). Ni vizitos la Pantheon. Pose, ni marchos inter la edif=
ici universitatala, preter la biblioteko Sainte-Genevieve, la liceo Louis-l=
a-Magna, l=E2=80=99Universitato di la Sorbonne, la liceo Saint-Louis, la Co=
ll=C3=A8ge de France (Kolegio di Francia, ube la Komitato di la Delegaciono=
 laboris por selektar la linguo internaciona), til la hotelo di Cluny (bela=
 domo dil 15ma yarcento) en qua esas la muzeo dil Mezepoko quan ni vizitos.=
 Ni vidos partikulare la famoza tapeto di la Damo kun l=E2=80=99Unikorno. S=
e restas tempo, ni iros sur l=E2=80=99insulo di la civito (ile de la Cit=C3=
=A9) por vidar la katedralo Notre-Dame.
Dejuno : en quartero Mouffetard.
Di=
neo : en l=E2=80=99insulo Saint-Louis.

Venerdio 18 julio
Exkurso : Homajo =
a Louis Couturat
Ni iros a Laroche-Saint-Cydroine por facar homajo a Louis =
Couturat apud lua tombo. Ni inau=C2=ADguros plako memorigiva por Louis Cout=
urat. Ni esperas povor facar taokazione ceremonio por honorizar la memoro d=
i Louis Couturat. Ni vidos anke la kirko Saint Cydroine dil romanala stilo =
(12ma yarcento). Ni povos irar en la municipala domo vidar la registro qua =
portas la nomo e l=E2=80=99adreso di Louis Couturat. Forsan ni renkontros l=
=E2=80=99urbestro di la vilajo quan ni invitos a la ceremonio kun la tota m=
unicipo e la habitanti.
Dejuno : Restorerio Aux rives de l=E2=80=99Yonne (A=
n la rivi di la Yonne) en Laroche-Saint-Cydroine.
Dineo : CISP Kellermann (=
18h30-20h30) od altraloke segun deziro.

Saturdio 19 julio
Louis Couturat e=
 Fontainebleau
Ni iros =C3=A0 Fontainebleau por vizitar la famoza palaco (d=
il reji di Francia e di l=E2=80=99impe=C2=ADri=C2=ADestro Napoleon 1ma) e p=
or prome=C2=ADnar en la bela foresto ube Louis Couturat prizis anke promena=
r. La marchemi sequos la voyo di l=E2=80=99anciena silvo dil Gros-Fouteau (=
t.e. dil Grosa Fago) e dil altaji di la Solle. Pose ni iros a Bois-le-Roi p=
or vidar la =C2=AB villa Graziella =C2=BB, rurdomo di Louis Couturat ube il=
 habitis dum la lasta yari di lua vivo. Inter altra personi, Louis Couturat=
 recevis hike Giuseppe Peano en 1904 e Heinrich Peus en 1910.
Dejuno : en F=
ontainebleau, proxim la kastelo.
Dineo en Bois-le-Roi : Restorerio Le Baroq=
ue (la Baroko).

Sundio 20 julio
Departo

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Sundio 13 julio


Arivo<=
/STRONG>


Dineo : CISP Kellermann (18h30-20h30) =
od altraloke segun 
deziro.


 


Lundio 14 julio


Matine : T=
i qui deziros vidar la defilo militala dil 14 
julio iros frue kun Ga=C3=AB=
l Richard a l=E2=80=99avenuo dil Champs-Elys=C3=A9es por 
trovar b=
ona plaso. La ceteri iros kun Jean Martignon vizitar la palaco e gardeno 
d=
il Luxembourg.


Dejuno : en la quartero=
 dil Marais.


Posdimeze : Vizito dil qu=
artero dil Marais (=C2=AB 
Marsho =C2=BB), placo dil Vosges e vizito dil indiana quartero proxim la 
staciono Gare de l=E2=80=99=
Est.


Dineo : CISP Kellermann (18h30-20h30)=
 od altraloke segun 
deziro.


 


Mardio 15 julio


Matine 9h-13h : konfero di laboro en la salono 
Orsay di CISP Kellermann.

Dejuno : CISP Kellermann.


Pos=
dimeze : Vizito dil quartero Montmartre, 
baziliko dil Sacr=C3=A9-C=C5=93ur (Sakra Kordio).


Vizito dil Butte=
s-Chaumont (Kolineti Chaumont).


Dineo : CISP Kellermann (18h30-20h30) od altraloke segun 
deziro.

 


Merkurdio 16 julio


Matine 9h-12h : konfero di laboro en la salon=
o 
Orsay di CISP Kellermann.


Dejuno : =
CISP Kellermann.


La quartero di la yuneso=
 di Louis 
Couturat


Ni iros en la quartero di la=
 granda bulvardi (Paris Haussmannala). De la 
metro-staciono Chauss=C3=
=A9e d=E2=80=99Antin, ni marchos tra la bulvardo Haussmann 
til la dom=
o ube Louis Couturat naskis ye la 17 januaro 1868, 27 strado di la 
Cha=
uss=C3=A9e d=E2=80=99Antin. Deibe ni marchos til la splendida Opero 
<=
EM>Garnier quan ni vizitos. Pose ni pasos preter la Granda Butiki 
(Grands Magasins) Printemps e Galeries Lafayette e ni iros a=
 
la liceo Condorcet ube Louis Couturat esis ecelantega dicipulo d=
um 
multa yari (ni forsan vizitos la liceo se ni havas la permiso di la dir=
ektoro). 
Ni marchos preter la staciono Gare Saint Lazare til la d=
omo 29 strado 
di Bern (rue de Berne) ube Louis Couturat vivis kun=
 sua genitori 
adminime til sua mariajo en 1896 ed ube mortis ilua matro en=
 1894.


Dineo : CISP Kellermann (18h30-20h30) od=
 altraloke segun 
deziro.


 


Jovdio 17 julio


Loui=
s Couturat e la Quartero 
latina


Ni vidos la dom=
o ube Louis Couturat habitis dum la periodo di la 
Delegaciono (7 strado Pierre Nicole). Pose ni vidos la Skolo Normala 
Superiora (Ecole=
 Normale Sup=C3=A9rieure, 45 strado di Ulm) ube Louis 
Couturat studii=
s dum 4 yari de 1887 (ed anke Leopold Leau e Andre Lalande). Ni 
marchos tr=
a la mikra stradi di la quartero, quale la strado Mouffetard, 
a l=
a placo di la kontreskarpo e pose a la kirko Saint-Etienne-du-Mont=
 
(Santa Etienne dil Monto). Ni vizitos la Pantheon. Pose, ni marc=
hos 
inter la edifici universitatala, preter la biblioteko Sainte-Genev=
ieve, 
la liceo Louis-la-Magna, l=E2=80=99Universitato di la Sorbo=
nne, la liceo 
Saint-Louis, la Coll=C3=A8ge de France (Kolegio di Francia, ube la 
Komitato di la Delegaciono laboris por selek=
tar la linguo internaciona), til la 
hotelo di Cluny (bela domo di=
l 15ma yarcento) en qua esas la muzeo dil 
Mezepoko quan ni vizitos. Ni vid=
os partikulare la famoza tapeto di la Damo kun 
l=E2=80=99Unikorno. Se rest=
as tempo, ni iros sur l=E2=80=99insulo di la civito (ile de la 
Cit=C3=
=A9) por vidar la katedralo Notre-Dame.


De=
juno : en quartero Mouffetard.


Dineo :=
 en l=E2=80=99insulo Saint-Louis.


 
=


Venerdio 18 julio


<=
STRONG>Exkurso : Homajo a Louis 
Couturat

Ni iros a Laroche-Saint-Cydroine por facar homajo a Louis=
 Couturat 
apud lua tombo. Ni inau­guros plako memorigiva por Louis Cou=
turat. Ni 
esperas povor facar taokazione ceremonio por honorizar la memoro=
 di Louis 
Couturat. Ni vidos anke la kirko Saint Cydroine dil rom=
anala stilo 
(12ma yarcento). Ni povos irar en la municipala domo vidar la =
registro qua 
portas la nomo e l=E2=80=99adreso di Louis Couturat. Forsan n=
i renkontros l=E2=80=99urbestro di 
la vilajo quan ni invitos a la ceremoni=
o kun la tota municipo e la 
habitanti.


Dejuno : Restorerio Aux rives de l=E2=80=99Yonne (An la 
rivi di la Yonne=
) en Laroche-Saint-Cydroine.


Dineo : C=
ISP Kellermann (18h30-20h30) od altraloke segun 
deziro.


 <=
/DIV>

Saturdio 19 julio

<=
DIV>Louis Couturat e Fontainebleau

Ni iros =C3=A0 Fontainebleau por vizitar la famoza palac=
o (dil reji di 
Francia e di l=E2=80=99impe­ri­estro Napoleon 1ma) =
e por prome­nar en la 
bela foresto ube Louis Couturat prizis anke prom=
enar. La marchemi sequos la voyo 
di l=E2=80=99anciena silvo dil Gros-F=
outeau (t.e. dil Grosa Fago) e dil 
altaji di la Solle. Pose =
ni iros a Bois-le-Roi por vidar la =C2=AB 
villa Graziella =C2=BB,=
 rurdomo di Louis Couturat ube il habitis dum la lasta yari di 
lua vivo. I=
nter altra personi, Louis Couturat recevis hike Giuseppe Peano en 
1904 e H=
einrich Peus en 1910.


Dejuno : en Fontainebleau=
, proxim la kastelo.


Dineo en Bois-le-Roi : Res=
torerio Le Baroque (la 
Baroko).


 


Sundio 20 julio


Departo


 


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Kara samideani,

pos la misekpulso, me mustis lasar la triesma grupo de nova vorti pri qua me esis laboranta. Quale on povas konstatar, en un yaro nulo plusa facesis pri ta listo: ol restis ibe, ube me lasabis ol.

Ma nun, pos la kompletigo di la litero F di la Dicionario (qua kontenas la vorti adoptita), e lor la komenco di la litero G kun la sequonta literi (qui kontenos la vorti adoptota), urjas riprenar la listo por irar adavane.

Me riskribas hike la listo, kun kelka chanji pos la diskuto di la yaro pasinta kun James Chandler. Me supresis kelka vorti, exemple "*infrastrukturo", nam James esas justa: on povas obtenar "infrastrukturo" per kompozo di "infra" e "strukturo", sen bezono adoptar aparta radiko. Me supresis anke "*kindo", nam nulu expresis la deziro adoptar ol, pos ke me demandis opinioni (mesaji 4324 e 4330 di linguolisto); ma se ulu volas ta vorto, me ripozos ol aden la listo.

Pri "*golo", me chanjis la tradukuro en l'Angla di "*golero" segun l'indiki da James, ma cakaze me mustis efacar la tradukuro en la Germana, qua esis la sama kam ta en l'Angla ("top scorer").

Pri "*klono", eventis diskuto ka havar "*klono" / "*klonizar" o "*klonuro" / "*klonar", t. e. adoptar ol kom radiko neverbala o verbala. Nu, *quoniam esas preferinda havar vorti sen sufixi por la senci maxim ofte expresata, la questiono esas qua de la du senci esas plu ofte uzata kam l'altra (la substantivo indikanta la konkretajo A "clone" o la verbo A "to clone"). Me kredas ke la substantivo esas plu ofte uzata, e do esas plu konvenanta "*klono" kom nomo di la kozo konkreta, kam "*klonar" kom verbo, nam takaze ni devus dicar "*klonuro" por indikar la kozo konkreta. Kontree, esas plu bona, segun me, havar la vorto lejera (sensufixa) "*klono" por la plu ofta A "clone" e rezervar la kompozuro plu pezoza "*klonizar" a la min ofta verbo. Certe, ta kompozuro per -iz- uzesos anke por la substantivo indikanta l'ago ("*klonizo" = A cloning, F clonage, G Klonen, H clonación, I clonazione, R klonirovaniye), ma me kredas ke anke ta substantivo esas min ofte uzata.

Nu, ica esas la listo:

*gol/o [Sport.] Rezultajo di certena sportala ludi (futbalo, *handbalo, *hokeo, edc), atingata per lansar balono aden specala strukturo retizita [AI goal | F but | G Tor | HI gol | I rete | R гол | E golo]. *golar (ntr.) Obtenar *golo [A to score (a goal) | I fare goal, segnare | E goli]. *golero. Ludero qua ofte *golas [A striker, forward | F goléador | HI goleador | I cannoniere | R лучший бомбардир | E +golfaristo]. *goluyo, (*gol)pordo La mencionita strukturo [A goal | F but | G Tor | H portería | I porta, rete | R ворота | E golejo]. (*gol)pordero, (*gol)gardero. Ludero qua gardas *goluyo esforcante impedar *goli dal adversi [A (goal)keeper | F gardien (de but) | G Torwart | H portero, guardameta | I portiere | R вратарь | E golulo]. - Voluntez sendar via opinioni.

*hamburger/o. Ronda loncho ek triturita karno, fritita o grilita, ordinare kondimentizita o garnita per plura ingredienti (mayonezo, *kechupo, lonchi tomata, onyona, fromaja, edc), ofte pozita inter du ronda lonchi ek specale lejera pano e tale manjata kom sandwicho [AFI hamburger, A burger | G Hamburger | H hamburguesa | R гамбургер | E hamburgero, burgero]. - Voluntez sendar via opinioni.

*hardwar/o [Inf.] La tota materiala parto di *komputerala sistemo [AHI hardware | F matériel informatique | G Hardware | R аппаратура | E hardvaro]. - Voluntez sendar via opinioni.

*hoke/o [Sport.] Komuna nomo di diversa sporti en qui du esquadi esforcas lansar disko o bulo aden l'adversa *goluyo impulsante ol per J-forma bastoni: *gazon-hokeo, *glacio-hokeo, *rul-hokeo, subaqua *hokeo [AFHI hockey | G Hockey | R хоккей | E hokeo]. - Voluntez sendar via opinioni.

*ideogram/o. Desegnuro o simbolo reprezentanta nociono od ideo, quale en Chiniana skriburo [A ideogram, ideograph | F idéogramme | G Ideogramm | H ideograma | I ideogramma | R идеограмма | E ideogramo, ideografaĵo]. - Voluntez sendar via opinioni.

*jel/o [Kem.] Koloido jeleatra konsistanta ek liquido dispersita en solido [AFHI gel | G Gel | R гель | E ĝelo]. RYLANDER (p. 156). - Voluntez sendar via opinioni.

*kartun/o. Rakonto o naraco konsistanta ek serio de desegnuri, ordinare dispozita bendatre ed ofte provizita per texto (komenti, dialogi, edc) insertita en buli o buxi super, sub o en la imaji [A comic strip, strip cartoon, cartoon | F bande dessinée | G Comic | H cómic | I fumetto | R комикс | E bildstrio, komikso]. NEVES (Progreso 326, p. 16), PONTNAU (Progreso 338, p. 2; 339, p. 2; 340, p. 2; 341, p. 2, 28), STUIFBERGEN (Progreso 341, p. 27). - Voluntez sendar via opinioni.

*kechup/o. Sauco ek tomati, vinagro, sukro, salo e diversa spici [AFHI ketchup | G Ketchup | H kétchup | R кетчуп | E keĉupo]. - Voluntez sendar via opinioni.

*klon/o [Biol.] 1 Ensemblo de DNA-fragmenti, celuli od individui havanta identa genaro pro decendar per genal manipulado del sama original DNA-fragmento, celulo od individuo. 2 Singla DNA-fragmento, celulo od individuo de ta ensemblo. 3 [Inf.] Preciza imituro de *komputeral programo od aparato di altra firmo, ordinare plu chipa kam la originalajo. [AF clone | G (1-2) Klon; (3) Nachahmung, Clone | H clon | I clone | R клон | E klono]. *klonizar. Produktar *klono: *klonizar bakterii [A to clone | F cloner | G klonen | H clonar | I clonare | R клонировать | E kloni]. - Voluntez sendar via opinioni.

Me memorigas ke la vorti kun lia artikli esas cherpita ek la Suplementa Ido-Lexiko da Gonçalo Neves.

Pos un semano, me pasigos la listo a la Direktanta Komitato.

Kordiale,

Tiberio




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Kad esas ula motivo specala por havar *jelo vice *gelo? Yes, la vorto pronuncesas kom [jel] o simile ([djel], [hel]) en AFHI, ma ol esas [gel] en GR, ed Ido tradicionale preferas "g" segun l' ortografio
e segun la pronunco en GR. Ni povus havar *jelo, se "gel" pronuncesus Francatre [jel] anke en G o R, ma to ne esas vera ca-kaze. Do segun mea opiniono, *gelo nul-maniere diferas de "Germania", "gemoetrio" edc. (ni ne havas "Jermania", "jeometrio" edc.).

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Ica esas questiono qua tempope retrovenas en Ido: ka "j" o "g"?
No, sincere me kredas ke ne esas ula motivo specala por havar "jelo" vice "gelo", ma anke ne esas motivo specala por havar "gelo" vice "jelo": yes, ni havas "Germania", ma ni havas anke "Arjentinia".

Me kredas ke ta qua propozis "jelo" simple egardis la pronunco maxim internaciona; yes, on povus anke egardar l'ortografio: pro to en Ido esas ocilado inter la du literi "j" e "g".

Ne esas regulo preciza pri to, ni havas anke "jirafo", qua en la Germana esas "Giraffe" kun pronunco [g].

Ma me ne desprizas la formo "gelo" kun "g", nam exemple me pensis propozar "gelato" por l'Angla "ice-cream".

Me opinionas ke irga de la du formi "jelo" e "gelo" esas adoptebla.

Quon opinionas altri, maxim aparte Robert Carnaghan o Gonçalo Neves?

Kordiale,

Tiberio




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Quankam me propozis *jelo en SIL, me nun opinionas ke, pro la existo di
"ge=
lateno" (ed anke pro la propozota *gelato), forsan *gelo esas preferinda.

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Kordiale,

Gon=C3=A7alo


2014-06-02 20:39 GMT+01:00 tiberiorevas@gmail.com=
 [idolisto] <
idolisto@yahoogroups.com>:

>
>
> Ica esas questiono qua temp=
ope retrovenas en Ido: ka "j" o "g"?
> No, sincere me kredas ke ne esas ula=
 motivo specala por havar "jelo" vice
> "gelo", ma anke ne esas motivo spec=
ala por havar "gelo" vice "jelo": yes,
> ni havas "Germania", ma ni havas a=
nke "Arjentinia".
>
> Me kredas ke ta qua propozis "jelo" simple egardis la=
 pronunco maxim
> internaciona; yes, on povus anke egardar l'ortografio: pr=
o to en Ido esas
> ocilado inter la du literi "j" e "g".
>
> Ne esas regulo=
 preciza pri to, ni havas anke "jirafo", qua en la Germana
> esas "Giraffe"=
 kun pronunco [g].
>
> Ma me ne desprizas la formo "gelo" kun "g", nam exem=
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> "gelato" por l'Angla "ice-cream".
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 ke irga de la du formi "jelo" e "gelo" esas adoptebla.
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> Quon opinionas =
altri, maxim aparte Robert Carnaghan o Gon=C3=A7alo Neves?
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> Kordiale,
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> Tiberio
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Quankam me propozis *jelo en SIL, me nun opinionas ke=
, pro=C2=A0la existo di "gelateno" (ed anke pro la propozota *gel=
ato), forsan *gelo esas preferinda.

Kordiale,


Gon=C3=A7alo

2014-06-02 20:39 GMT+01:00 tiberiorevas@gmail.com [idolisto] <=
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Ica es=
as questiono qua tempope retrovenas en Ido: ka "j" o "g"=
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No, sincere me kredas ke ne esas ula motivo specala por havar "=
jelo" vice "gelo", ma anke ne esas motivo specala por havar =
"gelo" vice "jelo": yes, ni havas "Germania",=
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Me kredas ke ta qua pro=
pozis "jelo" simple egardis la pronunco maxim internaciona; yes, =
on povus anke egardar l'ortografio: pro to en Ido esas ocilado inter la=
 du literi "j" e "g".



Ne esas regulo preciza p=
ri to, ni havas anke "jirafo", qua en la Germana esas "Giraf=
fe" kun pronunco [g].



Ma me ne desprizas la formo "gelo&=
quot; kun "g", nam exemple me pensis propozar "gelato" =
por l'Angla "ice-cream".



Me opinionas ke irga de la =
du formi "jelo" e "gelo" esas adoptebla.



Quon =
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Kordiale,



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Kara samideani,

me dankas Gabriel Svoboda, Robert Carnaghan e Gonçalo Neves pro lia precoza interveni.

Do me chanjos "*jelo" a "*gelo" en la listo de propozi.

Ma cakaze esas problemo, t. e. la vorto "aerojelo": lasar ol kun ta formo esus extreme nekoheranta, nam l'aerojelo esas strikte konektita kun la *jelo.
"Aerojelo" indikas materio derivita de la *jelo: ol esas, praktike, *jelo en qua la parto liquida es remplasita da gaso, e pro to ol nomizesis "aerogel" en la lingui naturala.

Pro to, quale tre juste remarkigis Robert Carnaghan, ni bezonas rikonsiderar ol SAMTEMPE.

Ni ne darfas adoptar "*gelo" lasante "aerojelo". Oportas chanjar ol en la sama decido.

Konseque, kun la chanjo di "*jelo" a "*gelo", cakaze me mustos adjuntar a la listo "*aerogelo" vice "aerojelo".

Kordiale,

Tiberio




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Bon jorno, kolegaro! Me ipsa ne havas tante klara, ke "gelo" ed "aerogelo" esus preferinda kam "jelo" ed "aerojelo", ma, irga-kaze, ante decidor favore di un od altra posiblajo, oportus studiar ensemble omna tilnuna
kazi, quin ni disponas, e probar saveskar pro quo rezolvesis skribar tal vorti kun J o kun G. Pro quo "Germania" ed "Arjentinia" e ne "Jermania" ed "Argentinia"? Pro quo "konjelar" e ne "kongelar"? Ka "Nigeria", ma "Nijer"? E tale
pri omna cetera kazi simila. Ni probez regulizar prie! (Me anke preferus skribar e pronuncar "jelato" kam "gelato", kaze ke tal vorto esus advere necesa por indikar altra-maniere sorto di "krem-glaciajo". 
  
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Kara samideani,

me kredas ke la selekto inter "j" e "g" pri multa vorti esas hazardala, ya pro ke ne existas regulo pri to.

E la fakto ke ne esas regulo, segun me, esas avantajo, ne desavantajo. Danke la libera selekto pri singla vorto, Ido (quale Esperanto) povas profitar la plura posiblaji por distingar vorti kun direranta senco: lo esas bona moyeno por restar linguo preciza e produktar pari de vorti quala gemo e jemo, geno e jeno, genio e jenio, genro e jenro, e tale plusa vorti, anke inter le kompozita, singla kun preciza signifiko. Fixigar regulo signifikus privacar Ido de ca precoza armo, o violacar la regulo nur kande esus bezono distingar, ma por produktar vorti qui mustus egardesar kom ecepti nereguloza. To, segun me, ne esus avantajo.

Fixigar tro multa reguli por havar un sola sistemo nur esus limito, povreso, kontree tal libereso esas richeso di la linguo. En 1949 on volabus abolisar la duopla sistemo di Ido "-o / -agar" od "-ar / -ilo", por "uniformigo", nam segun kelki del Akademiani "nia nuna sistemo ne es sistemo" (videz Progreso 153 e 154, sub "*angelear" ed "*angeliar"). Komentante ta kazo, me ja dicis en mesajo a ca forumo (mesajo 23122: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/idolisto/conversations/messages/23122 ) ke me ne komprenas ube esas la problemo; la duopla sistemo ne esas neregulozajo, ma, tote kontree, ol donas richeso e flexebleso a la linguo, nam ol igas posibla selektar reguloze la maxim bona moyeno pri singla kazo.

Pri "*gelo" e "*jelo", me dicis ke meaopinione irga de la du formi esas adoptebla, e fakte me klarigis ke me povas chanjar a *gelo simple "se ol plezas plu multe", ya pro ke ne esas (fortunoze) preciza principo pri to.

E fakte anke Gonçalo dicis "forsan", e nur pro la existo di "gelateno", do por kelka kohero kun altra vorto, ma ne pro principo.

Ed anke Robert dicis "me tendencas opinionar", nam ne existas objektale formo korekta e formo nekorekta inter la du formi donita.

Nula de la du formi esus ya eroro, ed on povas selektar sen tro multa sucio.

Kompreneble restas la neceseso havar la sama konsonanto en "*gelo" ed "*aerogelo", pro ke li esas strikte konektita.

Kordiale,

Tiberio



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Un exemplo por vi: La Idala Wikivortaro havas nun 45.143 pagini pri la Angliana vorti, e 32 Wikivortari (ultre la Idala) havas plu kam 100.000 pagini. Se omna ca 32 granda Wikivortari havas la pagini pri la sama Angliana
vorti, existas 1.444.576 ligili en ca altra Wikivortari anke aden la Idala Wikivortaro. Forsan la mikra ligilo igas ulu kurioza e duktas lu aden la Idala pagino.
  
 En la Idala Wikivortaro esas nun 93 lingui. Kelki havas poka pagini, kelki havas multa pagini, do on ne darfas multiplikar la donita cifro per 93, ma la averajala kalkulo duktas a cifro, qua esas multa milioni pagini ligilizita. 
  
 Lo esas relative granda videbleso! Ed omna nova vorto kunportas plusa konekti.
  
 Salutante,
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Kara samideani,

pri "*gelo", ni povas solvar l'afero "g" o "j" per la principo di maxima internacioneso konsiderante la AFGHIR-ortografio e -pronunco kune.

En ica maniero:

(por la pronunco dil Idala "j" me uzas la signo [j] quankam ol ne esas l'IPA-signo por ta sono, nam me timas ke l'IPA-signo [ʒ] ne aparos sur omna skreni)

ortografio en l'Angla: "g"
pronunco en l'Angla: [dj]
ortografio en la Franca: "g"
pronunco en la Franca: [j]
ortografio en la Germana: "G" ("g" mayuskula)
pronunco en la Germana: [g]
ortografio en la Hispana: "g"
pronunco en la Hispana: [x]
ortografio en l'Italiana: "g"
pronunco en l'Italiana: [dj]
ortografio en la Rusa: "г" (*transliterita: "g")
pronunco en la Rusa: [g]

Nu, konsiderante omna ortografii e pronunci kune, ni havas 8 "g" e nur 4 "j", se ni egardas la soni [j], [dj] e [x] kom simila soni (advere, segun mea vidpunto, la sono Hispana [x], esante konsonanto velala, esas plu simila a [g] kam a [j]).

Pro to, on vidas ke esas plu konvenanta la propozo "*gelo".


Me riskribas hike sube la listo de propozi:


*aerogelo vice "aerojelo".

*gel/o [Kem.] Koloido jeleatra konsistanta ek liquido dispersita en solido [AFHI gel | G Gel | R гель | E ĝelo].

*gol/o [Sport.] En certena sportala ludi (futbalo, *handbalo, *hokeo, edc), enirigo di balono aden specala strukturo retizita [AI goal | F but | G Tor | HI gol | I rete | R гол | E golo]. *golar (ntr.) Facar *golo [A to score (a goal) | I fare goal, segnare | E goli]. *golero. Ludero qua ofte *golas [A goal scorer | F goléador | G Torschütze | HI goleador | I cannoniere | R лучший бомбардир | E +golfaristo]. *goluyo, (*gol)pordo La mencionita strukturo [A goal | F but | G Tor | H portería | I porta, rete | R ворота | E golejo]. (*gol)pordero, (*goluyo)gardero. Ludero qua gardas *goluyo esforcante impedar *goli dal adversi [A (goal)keeper | F gardien (de but) | G Torwart | H portero, guardameta | I portiere | R вратарь | E golulo].

*hamburger/o. Ronda loncho ek triturita karno, fritita o grilita, ordinare kondimentizita o garnita per plura ingredienti (mayonezo, *kechupo, lonchi tomata, onyona, fromaja, edc), ofte pozita inter du ronda lonchi ek specale lejera pano e tale manjata kom sandwicho [AFI hamburger, A burger | G Hamburger | H hamburguesa | R гамбургер | E hamburgero, burgero].

*hardwar/o [Inf.] La tota materiala parto di *komputerala sistemo [AHI hardware | F matériel informatique | G Hardware | R аппаратура | E hardvaro].

*hoke/o [Sport.] Komuna nomo di diversa sporti en qui du esquadi esforcas lansar disko o bulo aden l'adversa *goluyo impulsante ol per J-forma bastoni: *gazon-hokeo, *glacio-hokeo, *rul-hokeo, subaqua *hokeo [AFHI hockey | G Hockey | R хоккей | E hokeo].

*ideogram/o. Desegnuro o simbolo reprezentanta nociono od ideo, quale en Chiniana skriburo [A ideogram, ideograph | F idéogramme | G Ideogramm | H ideograma | I ideogramma | R идеограмма | E ideogramo, ideografaĵo].

*kartun/o. Rakonto o naraco konsistanta ek serio de desegnuri, ordinare dispozita bendatre ed ofte provizita per texto (komenti, dialogi, edc) insertita en buli o buxi super, sub o en la imaji [A comic strip, strip cartoon, cartoon | F bande dessinée | G Comic | H cómic | I fumetto | R комикс | E bildstrio, komikso]. NEVES (Progreso 326, p. 16), PONTNAU (Progreso 338, p. 2; 339, p. 2; 340, p. 2; 341, p. 2, 28), STUIFBERGEN (Progreso 341, p. 27).

*kechup/o. Sauco ek tomati, vinagro, sukro, salo e diversa spici [AFHI ketchup | G Ketchup | H kétchup | R кетчуп | E keĉupo].

*klon/o [Biol.] 1 Ensemblo de DNA-fragmenti, celuli od individui havanta identa genaro pro decendar per genal manipulado del sama original DNA-fragmento, celulo od individuo. 2 Singla DNA-fragmento, celulo od individuo de ta ensemblo. 3 [Inf.] Preciza imituro de *komputeral programo od aparato di altra firmo, ordinare plu chipa kam la originalajo. [AF clone | G (1-2) Klon; (3) Nachahmung, Clone | H clon | I clone | R клон | E klono]. *klonizar. Produktar *klono: *klonizar bakterii [A to clone | F cloner | G klonen | H clonar | I clonare | R клонировать | E kloni].


Kordiale,

Tiberio




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Ye ca dio, 7 junio...

1340. Komto Willem 4ma di Holando donis urbala yuri =
a Rotterdam. La historio dil urbo komencis cirkume 900; ol esis situata an =
la fluvio Rotte. Ye cirkume 1150 esis severa inundadi, e dum la mez-epoko d=
igi esis konstruktata. Ula privilejo di la urbala yuri di 1340 esis la posi=
bleso konstruktar kanalo de Rotterdam norde ad Overschie. Ca kanalo, la "Ro=
tterdamse Schie", esis kompleta en 1348. Tale la urbo havis aceso a nordala=
 urbi di Holando, ed exterlanda komerco divenis plu granda.

1654. Rejulo d=
i Francia Louis 14ma esis kronizata, evante 15 yari. Il naskis en 1638; en =
1643 ilua patro Louis 13ma, kelka monati ante morto, establisis regenteso-k=
onsilantaro qua regnus por la yuna rejulo; to vice la kustumo ke la vidvino=
 di la rejulo esas regento. Pos la morto di Louis 13ma, ilua vidvino, rejin=
o Anne, koaktis la "parlement de Paris" abolisar la regenteso-konsilantaro,=
 ed el divenis unika regento. El donis multa povo a sua chefa minstro Kardi=
nalo Mazarin. Ye la morto di Mazarin en 1661, Louis 14ma prenis povo.=A0

1=
945. En London, la opero "Peter Grimes", da Benjamin Britten, esis unesmafo=
ye pleata; ol divenis tre sucesoza. La fonto esis poemo da George Crabbe (1=
754-1832, de la Angla komtio Suffolk, ube Britten rezidis), olqua kontenis =
rakonto pri tragediala karaktero, peskisto Peter Grimes, di la urbeto Aldeb=
urgh ye la marbordo di Suffolk. En la poemo il esas simpla kriminemo, ma en=
 la opero il esas plu komplexa. Britten komentis ke la temo dil opero esas =
"la lukto di la individuo kontre la populo-amaso. Quante plu vicioza esas l=
a societo, tante plu vicioza esas la individuo."

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 7 junio...

1340. Komto Willem 4ma di Holando donis urbala yuri a Rotterdam. L=
a historio dil urbo komencis cirkume 900; ol esis situata an la fluvio Rott=
e. Ye cirkume 1150 esis severa inundadi, e dum la mez-epoko digi esis
 kons=
truktata. Ula privilejo di la urbala yuri di 1340 esis la posibleso konstru=
ktar kanalo de Rotterdam norde ad Overschie. Ca kanalo, la "Rotterdamse Sch=
ie", esis kompleta en 1348. Tale la urbo havis aceso a nordala urbi di Hola=
ndo, ed exterlanda komerco divenis plu granda.

1654. Rejulo di Fr=
ancia Louis 14ma esis kronizata, evante 15 yari. Il naskis en 1638; en 1643=
 ilua patro Louis 13ma, kelka monati ante morto, establisis regenteso-konsi=
lantaro qua regnus por la yuna rejulo; to vice la kustumo ke la vidvino di =
la rejulo esas
 regento. Pos la morto di Louis 13ma, ilua vidvino, rejino A=
nne, koaktis la "parlement de Paris" abolisar la regenteso-konsilantaro, ed=
 el divenis unika regento. El donis multa povo a sua chefa minstro Kardinal=
o Mazarin. Ye la morto di Mazarin en 1661, Louis 14ma prenis povo. 

1945. En London, la opero "Peter Grimes", da Benjamin Britten, esis=
 unesmafoye pleata; ol divenis tre sucesoza. La fonto esis poemo da George =
Crabbe (1754-1832, de la Angla komtio Suffolk, ube Britten rezidis), olqua =
kontenis rakonto pri tragediala
 karaktero, peskisto Peter Grimes, di la ur=
beto Aldeburgh ye la
 marbordo di Suffolk. En la poemo il esas simpla krimi=
nemo, ma en la opero il esas plu komplexa. Britten komentis ke la temo dil =
opero esas "la lukto di la individuo kontre la populo-amaso. Quante plu vic=
ioza esas la societo, tante plu vicioza esas la individuo."

Kordiale DGW

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Me duras pensar, ke "jel.o" esas preferinda kam "gel.o", e ke oportus oficaligar olta e ne olca. Ni ja havas oficale la formo "aerojel.o" e mult altra vorti kun J, vice G. Ni devas atencar
la pronunco di ca vorto ne en la Hispana, ma en la Portugalana, nam en la Hispana on pronuncas nek J, nek G. Esperanto klasika havas la formo "g^el.o", qua equivalas nia "jel.o". Meajudike, che
tal vorti, oportas selektar prefere la pronunco kam l'espelo, ecepte se ni pensas uzor Ido kom nura skribo-linguo. Ed altra-latere, GR-pronunco ne darfas plupezar kam AFHI-pronunco. Mea opiniono. 
  
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Kara samideani,

dum ke la formo "*gelo" esas familiara ad omni pro ke omni havas l'ortografio "gelo", la formo "*jelo" esus absolute stranja por Germani e Rusi, quale tre juste remarkigis da ni Gabriel Svoboda. Do aprobar "*gelo" signifikus favorar omni sen diskiminacar Germani e Rusi, kontre ke aprobar "*jelo" signifikus favorar Angli, Franci ed Italiani e desfavorar Germani e Rusi. La formo "*gelo" do semblas multe plu internaciona e senpartisa. Multafoye konvenas konsiderar l'ortografio di ula vorti e ne la pronunco, nam ofte ita esas plu internaciona kam ica: fakte l'ortografio di vorto difuzesas ofte sen remarkinda chanji, ma ta vorto pronuncesas en manieri diferanta da la diversa populi. Exemple, la vorto "pizza" esas absolute internaciona, ma nur pri l'ortografio, nam en singla linguo ol pronuncesas diferante: la Hispani dicas ['piθa] o ['pisa], la Franci dicas [pid'dza], l'Italiani dicas ['pittsa] e. c., ma kande on lektas "pizza", omni komprenas.

Anke konsiderante la Portugalani, "*gelo" ritrovesas da li en lia ortografio, kontree "*jelo" ritrovesas da la Germani nek en lia ortografio nek en lia pronunco.

Esperanto klasika havas la formo "g^elo" qua nur teoriale korespondas a "*jelo", ma en la praktiko ne vere equivalas ol, nam "g^elo" riproduktas la litero "g", familiara ad omni, quan "*jelo" ne riproduktas. Fakte, Esperanto havas anke "g^ardeno", ma me vidas ke en la praktiko Ido chanjis ol a "gardeno" e ne a "jardeno".

La formo "*gelo" ne plupezigas GR kam AFHI, ma konkordigas omni, nam l'ortografio kunligas omni.

Pri "aerojelo", ne esas problemo chanjar ol ad "*aerogelo", formo certe plu konvenanta (quale remarkigis anke Robert Carnaghan e Gonçalo Neves) nam plu internaciona (pro la sama diskurso facita pri "*gelo"); lo ne esas problemo pro ke la vorto "aerojelo" esas ciencala vorto qua kredeble nultempe uzesis, e do chanjar ol kreus nula konfundo pri la texti anciena, anke pro ke ni ne donas nova signifiko ad "aerojelo": ni simple supresas ta formo, do eventuala uzo pasinta di ca formo produktus nula ambiguajo, same kam "dubar" e "delico" diveninta rispektive "dubitar" e "delicio".

Ultre to, la formi "*jelo" ed "aerojelo" havas anke simileso kun "konjelar", qua nule relatas "*jelo", e do esas ya oportuna diferigar la formi.

Kompreneble me havas nula interesto personala facar ica diskurso, nam me ipsa antee propozabis "*jelo"; ed anke Robert Carnaghan (qua unesme propozabis ol) e Gonçalo Neves (qua publikigis ol en la SIL). Do se ni chanjis opiniono, lo esas nur pro motivi linguala seninteresta: l'unika interesto esas por Ido.

Kordiale,

Tiberio




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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (32) 
  
  
  
  
 E tale, pos amaso de voyaji, paraboli, mirakli ed altri, la tempo pasabis e, certen-die, kande ni ekiris l’urbo Jeriko survoye a Jerusalem, me tre koncieskis, ke Jesu vizitos olca ultima-foye, nam il ne plus sucesos livar ol kom vivanto, ecepte se ni konsiderus ilua livo adsupra kom riviviginto. 
 
 (Parenteze: sempre, kande me pripensas Jeriko, me ne povas evitar sentar mikra remorso lor rimemorar ke, dum mea exkurso ibe, fine dil 20ma yarcento, me vizitis parto dil antiqua urbo, e me tushis e klemetis ulo teroza, evanta teorie plu kam 3000 yari, quo quik desfacesis en mea manuo). 
 
  
 Kande ni esis proxim Betania, Jesu demandis de du dicipuli departer a certena loko, e retrovener kun asno, quan li renkontros ibe, e quan il bezonos por enirar sur lua dorso l’urbo Jerusalem... Kande li rivenis kun la bestio, Jesu sideskis sur lu, e ni omna duris marchar survoye al urbego... La multa prodaji facita dal Nazaretano multopleskabis ilua populareso, ed omnu esis expektanta ilua arivo por aceptar lu e honorizar lu admaxime... Inter Betania e Jerusalem, la populo pozis manteli sur la voyo, quan Jesu trairos, ed on salutis ilu per branchi di palmiero e di altra arbori. 
 
  
 Kande ni tandem atingis la murego di Jerusalem, semblas a me (quankam me advere ne tote certesas), ke ni eniris ol tra la Orea Pordego, nam ni venis, rekte e direte, del Monto dil Olivieri... Ante trairir la pordego, me regardis olua supra parto e rimemoris mea kurta, ma intensa e plezuroza, aventuro ibe, dum mea olima vizito en l’Esplanado dil Moskei... Lore, me decidis ke, precize de ibe, del suprajo dil Orea Pordego, quan me tante prizis, me probos retrovenar permente aden mea tempo, quankam me mustis anke ponderar posibla risko kolateral: on asertas ke, de apen kelka metri plu fore, la profeto Mohamed acensis al ciela paradizo... Ho! E se me erorus e, vice retrovenor en mea vilajo e mea tempo, me irus direte al Paradizo? Irge, me nule hastus irar adibe, ka yes? La Cielo durez e durez vartar me! 
 
  
 Nia eniro en l’urbo Jerusalem esis glorioza, apoteoza, ed ol itere pensigis da me pri mea olima propra reprezento di tal instanti en mea vilajeto, kande me ipsa pleis la rolo di Jesu de Nazaret, ed iris inter la populo sur asno-dorso spinuda: “Hozanna! Hozanna, filio di David! Hozanna!” 
  
  
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Kara samideani,

me informas vi ke me pasigis la radiki a la Direktanta Komitato.

Kordiale,

Tiberio



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Kara samideani,

me deziras nur facar importanta klarigo, nam la membri di la Direktanta Komitato forsan ne komprenis bone l'afero.

Me esas serioza, e nule jokas.

Forsan li ne komprenis ke la Sekretariala Cirkulero quan li recevis ante-hiere esas vera e valida cirkulero.

Forsan li ne savas ke la nova statuti ne esas valida, nam me exkluzesis de la votadi eventinta por chanjar li.

Forsan li ne bone komprenis ke, quale me klarigis en la lasta januaro, mea ekpulsado del ULI ne esas valida, nam oportas respektar la statuti, ed on ne darfas facar omno quon on volas nur pro ke on votas.

Forsan li kredas ke to omna esas ludo por infanti, e ke li darfas agar sekrete por domajar personi.

Quale li pensas honorizar la memoro di nia pioniro L. Couturat dum la venonta renkontro?

Ka forsan aplastante la yuri di la personi, agante per forteso e per sekreteso?

Li atencez ne makulizar la memoro di nia pioniro, vice honorizar ol.

T. Madonna
ankore Sekretario por Linguala Questioni, mem se to ne plezas a li, ma forsan li kredas havar la yuro facar omno quon li prizas.




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Siori DK-ani,

ye ca punto, me volas explicita respondo de vi a la letro a Marion Kasper sendita en januaro:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/01/letro-marion-kasper.html

Me havas la yuro rienirar la forumo "uli-ido", nam me esas membro di ULI regulale paginta.

Me havas anke la yuro rienirar la forumo "uli-dk", ube vi ne permisis ke me enirez ja ante via misvotado, nam me esas membro regulale elektita en la Direktanta Komitato.

Gael Richard devas livar la DK-forumo, nam il ne darfas uzurpar mea plaso.

Vi devas cesar via terorismo!

Tiberio




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Kara amiki dil Idolinguo.

omnayare dum la internaciona Ido-renkontri
la partoprenanti signatis salutkarti por  ta samideani qui ne povas 
venar ad ica eventi.
Do, se vi deziras recevar saluti de Paris, kun la singnaturi dil konferani,
me invitas vi sendar via postadresi
a nia kamerado Gert Heintze, gertheintze@gmx.net .

Amikala saluti de Berlin
Eberhard


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Segun semblo, la DK-ani tote ignoras mea demandi.

Me invitas vi vizitar ica pagini:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/06/la-uzurpero.html

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/06/pri-la-direktanta-komitato.html

Tiberio




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Ye ca dio, 14 junio...

1594. La kompozisto Orlande de Lassus mortis en M=
=FCnchen, evante cirkume 62 yari. Il naskis en Mons en nuntempa Belgia. Esa=
s dicata ke kom puerulo il esis trifoye furtata pro ilua bela kanto-voco. D=
e la evo 12 yari, il rezidis en plura urbi en Italia, ube il divenis notend=
a kompozisto. De 1556 il rezidis en M=FCnchen. Il kompozis tre multa korala=
 muziko (nula instrumenta muziko), ambe ekleziala e sekulara. Dum la lasta =
yari ilua saneso dekadis. Ye la dio di ilua morto, ilua employanto decidis =
des-engajar il por ekonomiala neceso; il ne vidis la letro.

1699. En Londo=
n, Thomas Savery demonstris vaporo-mashino a la =A0ciencala instituto la "R=
oyal Society". Il esis militara injeniero, ed en libera tempo experimentis =
pri mekaniko. La skopo di la vapor-mashino esis formovar aquo de mineyi. La=
 levanta povo venis de la kondensado di koldeskanta vaporo. La mashini havi=
s problemi; kelka esis probata en mineyi, ma li ne funcionis sucesoze. La v=
apor-mashino developita en 1710 da Thomas Newcomen, ilqua utiligis idei di =
Savery, esis plu sucesoza.=A0

1820. Ye la K=E4rntnertortheater en Wien, la=
 verko "Die Zwillingsbr=FCder" (La Jemela Fratuli) da Franz Schubert esis u=
nesmafoye pleata. Ol esis opero di un akto. Ol esis ne sucesoza: esis judik=
ata ke la temo di la opero esis tro lejera por la alta qualeso di la muziko=
. La altra operi di Schubert esis plu serioza: "Alfonso und Estrella" en 18=
22, e "Fierrabras" en 1823; li amba esis ne pleata dum la vivo di la kompoz=
isto.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 14 junio...

1594. La kompoz=
isto Orlande de Lassus mortis en M=FCnchen, evante cirkume 62 yari. Il nask=
is en Mons en nuntempa Belgia. Esas
 dicata ke kom puerulo il esis trifoye =
furtata pro ilua bela kanto-voco. De la evo 12 yari, il rezidis en plura ur=
bi en Italia, ube il divenis notenda kompozisto. De 1556 il rezidis en M=FC=
nchen. Il kompozis tre multa korala muziko (nula instrumenta muziko), ambe =
ekleziala e sekulara. Dum la lasta yari ilua saneso dekadis. Ye la dio di i=
lua morto, ilua employanto decidis des-engajar il por ekonomiala neceso; il=
 ne vidis la letro.

1699. En London, Thomas S=
avery demonstris vaporo-mashino a la  ciencala instituto la "Royal Soc=
iety". Il esis militara injeniero, ed en libera tempo experimentis pri meka=
niko. La skopo di la vapor-mashino esis formovar aquo de mineyi. La levanta=
 povo venis de la kondensado di koldeskanta vaporo. La mashini havis proble=
mi; kelka esis probata en mineyi, ma li ne funcionis sucesoze. La vapor-mas=
hino developita en 1710 da Thomas Newcomen, ilqua utiligis idei di Savery, =
esis plu sucesoza. 

1820. Ye la K=E4rntn=
ertortheater en Wien, la verko "Die Zwillingsbr=FCder" (La Jemela Fratuli) =
da Franz Schubert esis unesmafoye pleata. Ol esis opero di un akto. Ol esis=
 ne sucesoza: esis judikata ke la temo di la opero esis tro lejera por la a=
lta qualeso di la muziko. La altra operi di Schubert esis
 plu serioza: "Al=
fonso und Estrella" en 1822, e
 "Fierrabras" en 1823; li amba esis ne pleat=
a dum la vivo di la kompozisto.

Kordiale DGW
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (33)
 
  
  
  
 Nu, amiki: me ne esis absolute strikta, kande me asertis, ke Jesu ne plus ekiros Jerusalem pos ta lasta voyajo ad ibe; fakte, ni omna livis l’urbo por vizitar ankor-foye nia kara Betaniani, e anke por irar dormar, extermurege, che l’ vicina gardeno Getsemani, anbaze dil Monto dil Olivieri. 
 
  
 Altra-latere, mea relato kun la ‘dekdu’ apostoli esis pasable bona, ecepte olta kun Jan, ilqua durabis antipatiar me, e sen permisar a me proximeskar tro multe al Maestro: ilta agadis quale sorto di aboyeganta hundo gardera. Ho, qual zelo! 
 
  
 Yen ke Petro, Andreas, Jakobo e Jan ipsa, semblis a me esar la maxim fidinda apostoli segun Jesu. Filipo e Bartolomeo esis aparte bona kamaradi, e li esis sempre kune ed agis ensemble. Tomas, me nul-tempe deskovris pro quo, prizegis mea kompaneso, ed il esis kustumale apud me, o ne tro fore. 
 
  
 Anke Judas Iskariot montrabis aparta intereso pri mea persono, e me konjektis la pro quo erste nia lasta eniro en Jerusalem, kande il afable invitis me, e nur me, promenar por montrar a me certena loko... Judas duktis me aden agro, haltis apud grand arboro ibe, e konfesis a me solene:  
 
 --Yen mea loko preferata, Partakael. Sempre, kande me havas problemi solvenda, o kande me bezonas parklarigar mea pensi, me advenas hike por reflektar, por meditar. Me multe prizas arbori, e maxim aparte ica konkret arboro, quan tu povas admirar hike. Belajo, ka ne? 
 
 --Ho, yes, tre bela, kara Judas! --me respondis e quik konjektis por quo tal specal arboro balde utilesos. 
 
  
 E kelke plu tarde, yen ke Judas questionis me kad ilua nomo e persono esos historiale konocata e rikonocata, o kad il esos un plusa homo senfama ed anonima, quale l’ plumultaro... Me quik exkuzis me pri ne darfar donar ad il tal informo, e quankam il advere insistis por saveskar prie, anke me insistis pri mea ne darfo informar il relate futura eventaji... Ho! Pro quo, omna-loke ed omna-epoke, omnu deziregas prisaveskar sua futuro?! Mem diskreta Jakobo, olim, dicabis a me, ke il multe prizus ula-die pilgrimar tra fora Hispania, e questionabis me kad ilua revo divenos realajo... E pose ito apudarbore: Judas Iskariot, qua esis kurioza saveskar kad il obtenos reputeso e populareso. Ho, quanta egocentreso! 
  
  
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Kara samideani,

la membri di la Direktanta Komitato ne votis pri la nova radiki prizentita a li en la Sekretariala Cirkulero di la 9ma di junio.

En la reguli di votado skribita en la Cirkulero me klare ed explicite precizigis ke, kaze ke ulu ne votas, lu egardesos kom votinta ed aprobinta, segun la principo "ta qua tacas konsentas".

Pro to, me informas vi ke la radiki di la triesma grupo esas nun oficala.

Me editis, pri to, specala "Oficala Komunikilo".

Vi povas acesar ol hike:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/06/oficala-komunikilo.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio





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Sioro Madonna,
Vu ne esas permisita ver-similigar ke vu esas la sekretario =
di la Linguala Komitato. Me pregas vu cesar vua aktoreso e klauneso.
Se vu =
intencas publikigar anke fotografuro de me, ye vua interretala pagini, volu=
ntez, me pregas, selektar bela fotografuro.
Hans Stuifbergen
Membro di la D=
irektanta Komitato di ULI
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spin=
oza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 16/06=
/2014 14:06
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Oficaligo=
 di la nova vorti
 
 
  
    
      
      
      
Kara samideani,
la membr=
i di la Direktanta Komitato ne votis pri la nova radiki prizentita a li en =
la Sekretariala Cirkulero di la 9ma di junio.
En la reguli di votado skribi=
ta en la Cirkulero me klare ed explicite precizigis ke, kaze ke ulu ne vota=
s, lu egardesos kom votinta ed aprobinta, segun la principo "ta qua tacas k=
onsentas".
Pro to, me informas vi ke la radiki di la triesma grupo esas nun=
 oficala.
Me editis, pri to, specala "Oficala Komunikilo".
Vi povas acesar =
ol hike:
http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/06/oficala-komunikilo.html
Kordia=
le,
Tiberio
    
     
    
    

  
  
  

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Sioro Madonna,
 
Vu ne esas permisita ver-sim=
iligar ke vu esas la sekretario di la Linguala Komitato. Me pregas vu cesar=
 vua aktoreso e klauneso.
 
Se vu intencas publiki=
gar anke fotografuro de me, ye vua interretala pagini, voluntez, me pregas,=
 selektar bela fotografuro.
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Membro di la Direktanta Komitato di ULI
--
La skopo di la stato =
esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : idol=
isto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 16/06/2014 14:06
Aan : idolisto@yahoogro=
ups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Oficaligo di la nova vorti








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Kara samideani,



la membri di la Di=
rektanta Komitato ne votis pri la nova radiki prizentita a li en la Sekreta=
riala Cirkulero di la 9ma di junio.



En la reguli di votado skribit=
a en la Cirkulero me klare ed explicite precizigis ke, kaze ke ulu ne votas=
, lu egardesos kom votinta ed aprobinta, segun la principo "ta qua tacas ko=
nsentas".



Pro to, me informas vi ke la radiki di la triesma grupo =
esas nun oficala.



Me editis, pri to, specala "Oficala Komunikilo".=




Vi povas acesar ol hike:



http://lingletr.blogspot.it/201=
4/06/oficala-komunikilo.html



Kordiale,



Tiberio



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Sioro Stuifbergen,

me pregas vu explikar e motivizar vua mesajo. Me esas klara en mea aferi, e me ne agas deshoneste e sekrete quale vi agas en via sekreta DK-forumo, diktatorale e nevalide. Quale me explikis en mea letro a Marion Kasper
per argumenti klara e racionala, via ekpulso esas nevalida. Probez respondizar ta letro, vice sendar ridinda mesajo.

Vu redaktas Progreso sen esar elektata, e to devus ne esar permisata. Do vu ver-similigas ke vu havas ofico, ne me.

Me invitas vu rezonar en la forumo per valida argumenti, ma forsan me ne darfas expektar to.

Tiberio Madonna
Sekretario por Linguala Questioni dil ULI



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Ye ca dio, 21 junio...

1749. La urbo Halifax, en Nova Skotia (Nord-Amerika=
), fondesis kande Britana oficiro Edward Cornwallis arivis por establisar k=
olonio, ye la komenco di milito inter Britania e Francia. Cornwallis, selek=
tita kom guvernestro di Nova Skotia, seglirabis de Anglia ye 14 mayo; 15 na=
vi e cirkume 2500 koloniisti sequis il. Dun julio ed agosto, mapo di la pro=
jetata urbo esis skisata e teren-peci esis asignata a koloniisti. Plura for=
tifikuri konstruktesis en la regiono, por defensar kontre Mikmaq-indijeni e=
 Franca koloniisti.=A0

1868. En M=FCnchen, la opero "Die Meistersinger von=
 N=FCrnberg", da Richard Wagner, esis unesmafoye pleata. La produkturo, qua=
 esis financale sustenata da rejulo Ludwig 2ma di Bayern, esis sucesoza. Wa=
gner ipsa kreis la rakonto di la opero. Vice la kustumala mitala o legendal=
a origino di altra operi di Wagner, ca opero fondesis sur reala mez-epoka g=
ildo di amatora maestro-kantanti en N=FCrnberg, pri qua la kompozisto lekti=
s dum vakanco en 1845. Il skribis la libreto e la uverturo en 1862, e la op=
ero esis kompletigata en 1867.

1908. La kompozisto Nikolai Rimski-Korsakov=
 mortis, evante 64 yari. Notenda evento di la lasta yari di lua vivo esis d=
emonstri da studenti en St Petersburg en 1905, qui esis parto di la revoluc=
iono di 1905; esis postuli por politikala reformi. Rimski-Korsakov skribis =
deklarante sua apogo di la studenti; il, kun ula altri en la Konservatorio =
di St Petersburg, postulis la demisiono di la chefo di la Konservatorio. Pr=
o tala agi, Rimski-Korsakov perdi sua ofico kom profesoro en la Konservator=
io. De 1890 il sufrabis pro angino; ilua saneso divenis plu mala pro la tru=
bli di 1905, ed il ne povis laborar pos 1907.

Kordiale DGW
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1749. La u=
rbo Halifax, en Nova Skotia (Nord-Amerika), fondesis kande Britana oficiro =
Edward Cornwallis arivis por
 establisar kolonio, ye la komenco di milito i=
nter Britania e Francia. Cornwallis, selektita kom guvernestro di Nova Skot=
ia, seglirabis de Anglia ye 14 mayo; 15 navi e cirkume 2500 koloniisti sequ=
is il. Dun julio ed agosto, mapo di la projetata urbo esis skisata e teren-=
peci esis asignata a koloniisti. Plura fortifikuri konstruktesis en la regi=
ono, por defensar kontre Mikmaq-indijeni e Franca koloniisti. <=
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1868. En M=FCnchen, la op=
ero "Die Meistersinger von N=FCrnberg", da Richard Wagner, esis unesmafoye =
pleata. La produkturo, qua esis financale sustenata da rejulo Ludwig 2ma di=
 Bayern, esis sucesoza. Wagner ipsa kreis la rakonto di la opero. Vice la k=
ustumala mitala o legendala origino di altra operi di Wagner, ca opero fond=
esis sur reala mez-epoka gildo di amatora maestro-kantanti en N=FCrnberg, p=
ri qua la kompozisto lektis dum vakanco en 1845. Il skribis la libreto e la=
 uverturo en 1862, e la opero esis kompletigata en 1867.

=

1908. La kompozisto =
Nikolai Rimski-Korsakov mortis, evante 64 yari. Notenda evento di la lasta =
yari di lua vivo esis demonstri da studenti en St Petersburg en 1905, qui e=
sis parto di la revoluciono di 1905; esis postuli por politikala reformi. R=
imski-Korsakov skribis deklarante sua apogo di la studenti; il, kun ula alt=
ri en la Konservatorio di St Petersburg, postulis la demisiono di la chefo =
di la Konservatorio. Pro tala agi, Rimski-Korsakov perdi sua ofico kom prof=
esoro en la Konservatorio. De 1890 il sufrabis pro angino; ilua saneso dive=
nis plu mala pro la trubli di 1905, ed il ne povis laborar pos 1907.=


Kordiale DGW




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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (34) 
  
  
  
  
 Dum la Pasko-tempo, Jerusalem esis mem plu populizita kam kustumale, nam ol vizitesis da homi veninta de omna punti e direcioni. Ta-yare, me vidis enurbe amaso de populo e bestii, same kam amaso de soldati Romana, qui, hike ed ibe, esis patrolianta e vigilanta omna-loke. Ca-relate, me ya frapesis da nova surprizego, kande me salutis paro de tal soldati e kelke konversis kun ili, nam ili asertis ne esar Romani, ma nur laborar quale Romani... Ili dicis a me, ke lo stranja esas trovar vera Romano ibe, nam preske li omna venis precipue de Grekia, Siria ed altra landi vicina... Forsan, ili trompis me per tal aserto, e to omna esis nura joko por naiva stranjeri qual me ipsa, ma un del soldati mem ‘parlis’ a me en la Greka por ke me parkredez ilu... E tamen, me nule shokesis dal fakto, ke me komprenis e kelke ‘parlis’ la Greka kun ilu, quaze me studiabus e dominacus ta linguo... Fakte, nulo relatanta lingui sucesis astonar me, pos ke me de longe konstatabis, ke me povas komprenar mem la Hebrea, quan me askoltabis plura-foye che diversa sinagogi. 
 
  
 Jesu esis jeneroze predikanta en la templo per sua famoza paraboli e, pluse, il esis respondizanta la trapo-questioni, quin certena povozi pozis ad ilu, inter olqui olta pri Tiberio, la lora cezaro dil Romana Imperio: “Vi donez al cezaro to quo esas dil cezaro, ed a Deo to quo esas di Deo!”. 
 
  
 E plu tarde, che l’ Monto dil Olivieri, Jesu duris predikar e diskursar, ma, ca-kaze, nur por sua dicipuli, qui askoltis, kun plu multa atencemeso kam komprenemeso, to omna quo, segun la Maestro, eventos ad il dum la proxima kloki e dii, e mem omno eventonta dum l’ultima tempi di nia mondo... Jesu semblis advere konciar, ke sua tempo fineskabis, ed il probis informar ni admaxime, longe e detaloze, pri lo futura. 
 
  
 Tamen, ta-nokte, me dormeskis kun penso maxim trivial, nam mea lasta penso esis pri mea staturo imperiestral, olqua, malgre omno, superesis olta di preske omna homi ibe, ecepte olta di Jesu ipsa, ilqua esis multe plu alta kam me e, konseque, kam la ceteri. Ho, yes! Jesu esis eterna eceptajo.   
  
  
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Kara David,
Danko pro l'interesanta informi. Lektinte pri Korsakov, kad il =
ne esis alkoholiko. Existas la sindromo Korsakov, ka ne?
saluti amikala,
Ha=
ns Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spino=
za)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 21/06/=
2014 10:03
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Tri pasint=
a eventi di ca dio, 21 Junio
 
 
  
    
      
      
      
Ye ca dio, 21=
 junio...
1749. La urbo Halifax, en Nova Skotia (Nord-Amerika), fondesis ka=
nde Britana oficiro Edward Cornwallis arivis por
 establisar kolonio, ye la=
 komenco di milito inter Britania e Francia. Cornwallis, selektita kom guve=
rnestro di Nova Skotia, seglirabis de Anglia ye 14 mayo; 15 navi e cirkume =
2500 koloniisti sequis il. Dun julio ed agosto, mapo di la projetata urbo e=
sis skisata e teren-peci esis asignata a koloniisti. Plura fortifikuri kons=
truktesis en la regiono, por defensar kontre Mikmaq-indijeni e Franca kolon=
iisti. 
1868. En M=C3=BCnchen, la opero "Die Meistersinger von N=C3=BCrnber=
g", da Richard Wagner, esis unesmafoye pleata. La produkturo, qua esis fina=
ncale sustenata da rejulo Ludwig 2ma di Bayern, esis sucesoza. Wagner ipsa =
kreis la rakonto di la opero. Vice la kustumala mitala o legendala origino =
di altra operi di Wagner, ca opero fondesis sur reala mez-epoka gildo di am=
atora maestro-kantanti en N=C3=BCrnberg, pri qua la kompozisto lektis dum v=
akanco en 1845. Il skribis la libreto e la uverturo en 1862, e la opero esi=
s kompletigata en 1867.
1908. La kompozisto Nikolai Rimski-Korsakov mortis,=
 evante 64 yari. Notenda evento di la lasta yari di lua vivo esis demonstri=
 da studenti en St Petersburg en 1905, qui esis parto di la revoluciono di =
1905; esis postuli por politikala reformi. Rimski-Korsakov skribis deklaran=
te sua apogo di la studenti; il, kun ula altri en la Konservatorio di St Pe=
tersburg, postulis la demisiono di la chefo di la Konservatorio. Pro tala a=
gi, Rimski-Korsakov perdi sua ofico kom profesoro en la Konservatorio. De 1=
890 il sufrabis pro angino; ilua saneso divenis plu mala pro la trubli di 1=
905, ed il ne povis laborar pos 1907.
Kordiale DGW
    
     
    
    

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Kara David,
 
Danko pro l'interesanta informi=
. Lektinte pri Korsakov, kad il ne esis alkoholiko. Existas la sindromo Kor=
sakov, ka ne?
 
saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato e=
sas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : idoli=
sto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 21/06/2014 10:03
Aan : idolisto@yahoogrou=
ps.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Tri pasinta eventi di ca dio, 21 Junio
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Ye ca dio, 21 junio...
1749. La urbo Halifax, en No=
va Skotia (Nord-Amerika), fondesis kande Britana oficiro Edward Cornwallis =
arivis por
 establisar kolonio, ye la komenco di milito inter Britania e Fr=
ancia. Cornwallis, selektita kom guvernestro di Nova Skotia, seglirabis de =
Anglia ye 14 mayo; 15 navi e cirkume 2500 koloniisti sequis il. Dun julio e=
d agosto, mapo di la projetata urbo esis skisata e teren-peci esis asignata=
 a koloniisti. Plura fortifikuri konstruktesis en la regiono, por defensar =
kontre Mikmaq-indijeni e Franca koloniisti. 

1868. En M=C3=BCn=
chen, la opero "Die Meistersinger von N=C3=BCrnberg", da Richard Wagner, es=
is unesmafoye pleata. La produkturo, qua esis financale sustenata da rejulo=
 Ludwig 2ma di Bayern, esis sucesoza. Wagner ipsa kreis la rakonto di la op=
ero. Vice la kustumala mitala o legendala origino di altra operi di Wagner,=
 ca opero fondesis sur reala mez-epoka gildo di amatora maestro-kantanti en=
 N=C3=BCrnberg, pri qua la kompozisto lektis dum vakanco en 1845. Il skribi=
s la libreto e la uverturo en 1862, e la opero esis kompletigata en 1867.

1908. La kompozisto Nikolai Rimski-Korsakov mortis, evante 64 yari. No=
tenda evento di la lasta yari di lua vivo esis demonstri da studenti en St =
Petersburg en 1905, qui esis parto di la revoluciono di 1905; esis postuli =
por politikala reformi. Rimski-Korsakov skribis deklarante sua apogo di la =
studenti; il, kun ula altri en la Konservatorio di St Petersburg, postulis =
la demisiono di la chefo di la Konservatorio. Pro tala agi, Rimski-Korsakov=
 perdi sua ofico kom profesoro en la Konservatorio. De 1890 il sufrabis pro=
 angino; ilua saneso divenis plu mala pro la trubli di 1905, ed il ne povis=
 laborar pos 1907.

Kordiale DGW



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Kara Hans

Danko pro la mesajo. Pos kelka explorado, me trovis ke la sindro=
mo Korsakoff esis nomizata pro ula psikologiisto Sergei Korsakoff , qua des=
kovris la sindromo - ol ne relatas la kompozisto.

Amikale
David


>_______=
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rgen1961@kpnmail.nl [idolisto]" 
>To: idolisto@ya=
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>Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2014, 21:19
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>
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>Kara David,
>=C2=
=A0
>Danko pro l'interesanta informi. Lektinte pri Korsakov, kad il ne esis=
 alkoholiko. Existas la sindromo Korsakov, ka ne?
>=C2=A0
>saluti amikala,
=
>=C2=A0
>Hans Stuifbergen
>Amsterdam
>
>--
>La skopo di la stato esas liber=
eso.(B. de Spinoza)
>
>
>
>
>----Origineel Bericht----
>>Van : idolisto@yah=
oogroups.com
>>Datum : 21/06/2014 10:03
>>Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
>>=
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Tri pasinta eventi di ca dio, 21 Junio
>>
>>=C2=A0 
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>>Ye ca dio, 21 junio...
>>
>>
>>1749. La urbo Halifax, en Nova Skotia (Nor=
d-Amerika), fondesis kande Britana oficiro Edward Cornwallis arivis por est=
ablisar kolonio, ye la komenco di milito inter Britania e Francia. Cornwall=
is, selektita kom guvernestro di Nova Skotia, seglirabis de Anglia ye 14 ma=
yo; 15 navi e cirkume 2500 koloniisti sequis il. Dun julio ed agosto, mapo =
di la projetata urbo esis skisata e teren-peci esis asignata a koloniisti. =
Plura fortifikuri konstruktesis en la regiono, por defensar kontre Mikmaq-i=
ndijeni e Franca koloniisti.=C2=A0
>>
>>
>>1868. En M=C3=BCnchen, la opero =
"Die Meistersinger von N=C3=BCrnberg", da Richard Wagner, esis unesmafoye p=
leata. La produkturo, qua esis financale sustenata da rejulo Ludwig 2ma di =
Bayern, esis sucesoza. Wagner ipsa kreis la rakonto di la opero. Vice la ku=
stumala mitala o legendala origino di altra operi di Wagner, ca opero fonde=
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>>
>>
>>1908. La=
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di la lasta yari di lua vivo esis demonstri da studenti en St Petersburg en=
 1905, qui esis parto di la revoluciono di 1905; esis postuli por politikal=
a reformi. Rimski-Korsakov skribis deklarante sua apogo di la studenti; il,=
 kun ula altri en la Konservatorio di St Petersburg, postulis la demisiono =
di la chefo di la Konservatorio. Pro tala agi, Rimski-Korsakov perdi sua of=
ico kom profesoro en la Konservatorio. De 1890 il sufrabis pro angino; ilua=
 saneso divenis plu mala pro la trubli di 1905, ed il ne povis laborar pos =
1907.
>>
>>
>>Kordiale DGW
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Kara Hans

Danko pro la m=
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a pro ula psikologiisto Sergei Korsakoff , qua deskovris la sindromo - ol n=
e relatas la kompozisto.
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Kara David,
 
Danko pro l'inter=
esanta informi. Lektinte pri Korsakov, kad il ne esis alkoholiko. Existas l=
a sindromo Korsakov, ka ne?
 
saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. d=
e Spinoza)


<=
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Van : idolisto@yahoo=
groups.com
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Aan=
 : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Tri pa=
sinta eventi di ca dio, 21 Junio






=








 

 



    

 =
     
      
      
Ye ca dio, =
21 junio...

1749. La urbo Halifax, en No=
va Skotia (Nord-Amerika), fondesis kande Britana oficiro Edward Cornwallis =
arivis por
 establisar kolonio, ye la komenco di milito inter Britania e Fr=
ancia. Cornwallis, selektita kom guvernestro di Nova Skotia, seglirabis de =
Anglia ye 14 mayo; 15 navi e cirkume 2500 koloniisti sequis il. Dun julio e=
d agosto, mapo di la projetata urbo esis skisata e teren-peci esis asignata=
 a koloniisti. Plura fortifikuri konstruktesis en la regiono, por defensar =
kontre Mikmaq-indijeni e Franca koloniisti. 

1868. En M=C3=BCnchen, la oper=
o "Die Meistersinger von N=C3=BCrnberg", da Richard Wagner, esis unesmafoye=
 pleata. La produkturo, qua esis financale sustenata da rejulo Ludwig 2ma d=
i Bayern, esis sucesoza. Wagner ipsa kreis la rakonto di la opero. Vice la =
kustumala mitala o legendala origino di altra operi di Wagner, ca opero fon=
desis sur reala mez-epoka gildo di amatora maestro-kantanti en N=C3=BCrnber=
g, pri qua la kompozisto lektis dum vakanco en 1845. Il skribis la libreto =
e la uverturo en 1862, e la opero esis kompletigata en 1867.

1908. La kompozisto Nikolai Rimski-Korsakov mortis, evante 64 yari. Notend=
a evento di la lasta yari di lua vivo esis demonstri da studenti en St Pete=
rsburg en 1905, qui esis parto di la revoluciono di 1905; esis postuli por =
politikala reformi. Rimski-Korsakov skribis deklarante sua apogo di la stud=
enti; il, kun ula altri en la Konservatorio di St Petersburg, postulis la d=
emisiono di la chefo di la Konservatorio. Pro tala agi, Rimski-Korsakov per=
di sua ofico kom profesoro en la Konservatorio. De 1890 il sufrabis pro ang=
ino; ilua saneso divenis plu mala pro la trubli di 1905, ed il ne povis lab=
orar pos 1907.

Kordiale DGW



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Ye ca dio, 28 junio...

1491. La futura rejulo Henry 8ma di Anglia naskis, =
filiulo di rejulo Henry 7ma ed Elizabeth di York (qua esis filiino di Edwar=
d 4ma). Princo Arthur, unesma filio di Henry ed Elizabeth naskinta en 1486,=
 esis la expektata futura rejo, ed en 1501 il esis mariajita a Catherine di=
 Aragon; la mariajo esis esforco di Henry 7ma, establisar asocio inter Angl=
ia ed Hispania. Catherine esis promisita a yuna Henry pos la morto di Arthu=
r en 1502, e li esis mariajata kurte pos ke Henry divenis rejo en 1509.

18=
46. Adolphe Sax patentizis sua nova muzikala instrumento, la saxofono. Nask=
inta en Dinant en Belgia, il facis fluti e klarineti dum yuneso, ed il stud=
iis ca instrumenti ye la Rejala Konservatorio di Brussel. De 1841 il rezidi=
s en Paris. Il konstruktis nova instrumento, la saxhorno, qua esis buglo ku=
n valvi; facita en diversa grandesi, li divenis sucesoza. Sax desegnis dive=
rsa grandesi di la saxofono. Il ganis bona reputeso pro la saxofono, e pro =
to il divenis docisto ye la Konservatorio di Paris en 1857.=A0

1886. La un=
esma trans-kontinenta voyajo di la Kanadana-Pacifika Fervoyo komencis. La t=
reno departis de Montreal ye ok kloki ed arivis ye Port Moody, Vancouver, y=
e di-mezo di 4 julio. En 1871 la guvernado di Kanada propozis konstruktar t=
ala fervoyo liganta la Pacifika provinco a la estala provinci, ne plu tarde=
 kam dek yari pose. To esis egardata kom importanta por la unigita Kanadana=
 naciono; anke, fabrikisti en Quebec ed Ontario deziris aceso a materii e m=
erkati en westala Kanada. Konstruktado di la fervoyo komencis en 1881.=A0

=
Kordiale DGW
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=

1491. La futura rejulo Hen=
ry 8ma di Anglia naskis, filiulo di rejulo Henry 7ma ed Elizabeth di York (=
qua esis filiino di Edward 4ma). Princo Arthur, unesma filio di Henry ed El=
izabeth naskinta en 1486, esis la expektata futura rejo, ed en 1501 il esis=
 mariajita a Catherine di Aragon; la mariajo esis esforco di Henry 7ma, est=
ablisar asocio inter Anglia ed Hispania. Catherine esis promisita a yuna He=
nry pos la morto di Arthur en 1502, e li esis mariajata kurte pos ke Henry =
divenis rejo en 1509.

1846. Adolphe Sax patentizis sua nova muzikala
 instru=
mento, la saxofono.
 Naskinta en Dinant en Belgia, il facis fluti e klarine=
ti dum yuneso, ed il studiis ca instrumenti ye la Rejala Konservatorio di
 =
Brussel. De 1841 il rezidis en Paris. Il konstruktis nova instrumento, la s=
axhorno, qua esis buglo kun
 valvi; facita en diversa grandesi, li divenis =
sucesoza. Sax desegnis diversa grandesi di la saxofono. Il ganis bona reput=
eso pro la saxofono, e pro to il divenis docisto ye la Konservatorio di Par=
is en 1857. 
1886. La unesma tr=
ans-kontinenta voyajo di la Kanadana-Pacifika Fervoyo komencis. La treno de=
partis de Montreal ye ok kloki ed arivis ye Port Moody, Vancouver, ye di-me=
zo di 4 julio. En 1871 la guvernado di Kanada propozis konstruktar tala fer=
voyo liganta la Pacifika provinco a la estala provinci, ne plu tarde kam de=
k yari pose. To esis egardata kom importanta por la unigita Kanadana nacion=
o; anke, fabrikisti en Quebec ed Ontario deziris aceso a materii e merkati =
en westala Kanada. Konstruktado di la fervoyo komencis en 1881. 

Kordiale DGW
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (35) 
  
  
  
 
 Ed arivis la dio, kande l’ Nazaretano deziris celebrar kun sua maxim proxima dicipuli la Santa Supeo, qua esus l’ultima quan il povus partigar kun ni. Lore, Jesu komisis Petro e Jan pri la tasko serchar la maxim konvenanta loko ed aranjar omno relatanta la supeo. 
 
  
 Akurate, ni omna acensis eskalero, qua abutis a teraso, ube lokizesis la ne tro granda chambro, qua selektesabis por supear... Jesu haltis apudporde, vokis ed enirigis unope la tota apostoli, til ke nur il e me restis extere, e dicis a me: 
 --Partakael: oportas ke tu restez hike, surterase. Me pregas. 
 
  
 Me devas agnoskar, ke me multe deceptesis, kande me askoltis tal vorti, ma Jesu ‘parlis’ a me tante dolce e simpatioze, ke mea frustro esis nur relativa; tamen, me questionis me pro quo me ne darfas enirar e festar la Santa Supeo, se me sempre esis prezenta omna-loke... Se to produktesabus en altra epoko di mea vivo, me konjektabus, ke Jesu, kun tre bona kriterio, forsan esis eludanta lavar mea pedi, qui havis advere multa odor-personaleso; ma yen ke to ne plus esas problemo, do, pro quo me mustas restar extere? Ka forsan pro ke oportas, ke li esez 13, e nur 13 entote, por ke omno eventez quale previdite? Irga-kaze, me rezignis, sideskis surterase kun mea dorso anmure e, quoniam me ne ja esis kapabla transirar parieti per mea povoza vido-senso, me apertis admaxime mea same povoza audo-kapableso por adminime askoltar omno posibla. 
 
  
 Jesu lavis pokope la pedi di omna apostoli... Plu tarde, il prenis pano e disdonis ol inter omni por ke li manjez, e pose, il prontigis kupo kun vino, e pasigis ol ad omni por ke li drinkez... Lore, me profitis por manjar mea propra pano e drinkar mea propra vino, dum ke me duris askoltar omno eventinta en la chambro, mem sen proximeskar ad ol... 
 --Yen ke un de vi trahizos me e livros me al autoritatozi por ke me esez judiciata --Jesu informis. 
 --Ho, no, Maestro! Ka tal perfidacho es Partakael, e pro to il ne esas hike, inter ni, ma extere? --Jan klamis e questionis. 
 --No. Me advere dicas a vi, ke, quankam Partakael esas hike, nula homo, future, mencionos ilua nomo, nek raportos pri ilua tempo apud ni. 
 “Ka vere? Ecepte me ipsa en tre fora tempo”, me pensis. 
 --Ecepte il ipsa en tre fora tempo --Jesu quik adjuntis, quaze il lektabus exakte mea penso. 
 --Maestro: tu tristigis me. Ka me trahizos tu? --Jan dicis. 
 --Maestro: kad on raportos future pri me? --Judas interruptis. 
 --To quon tu esas agonta, agez lo ja! --Jesu respondis a Judas Iskariot, dum regardar il kun mieno maxim serioza, ma serenamente. 
  
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Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero G di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/07/dicionario-kompleta-g.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero F di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/06/dicionario-kompleta-f.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero E di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/05/dicionario-kompleta-e.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Kara samideani,

me ankore ne anuncabis la litero D di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/04/dicionario-kompleta-d.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero C di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/03/dicionario-kompleta-c.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Kara samideani,

me publikigis la litero B di la dicionario:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-b.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

Kara samideani,

me prizentas a vi hike mea projeto di la nova Dicionario Kompleta di la
radiki.

Me komencis la laboro por ica dicionario en la somero dil 2012, ma pose me
interruptis, e recente me rikomencis ol por kompletigar la litero A. Entote,
la laboro pri ca litero duris dum un monato e duimo cirkume. Me unionis la
vorti dispersita en plura dicionarii, listi e listeti qui akumulesis dum la
yari, plu exakte dum la yardeki. La laboro esis harda, nam granda quanto de
vorti ne havis defino, e do me mustis furnisar defino por ta omna vorti,
multi de qui esas tre teknikala vorti pri diversa cienci, precipue pri
biologio, pri qua me havas poka savo. Pro to, me koaktesis facar vera studio
e serchado, en dicionarii ed enciklopedii papera ed interretala, por skribar
la defini bezonata.

Nun, kun granda kontenteso, me povas prizentar al Idistaro l'unesma pagini
di dicionario kompleta quan l'Idisti de longa tempo bezonas. Kompreneble la
laboro mustas duror, por la litero B ed omna cetera literi.

Intertempe me invitas vi irar ad ica pagino por deskargar la parto
komencala:

http://lingletr.blogspot.it/2014/02/dicionario-kompleta-a.html

Kordiale,

Tiberio




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Ye ca dio, 5 julio...

1054. La supernovo SN 1054, qua nuntempe esas vidita=
 kom la Krabo-nebuloso, esis observata da Chiniana astronomi. Li notis ke o=
l esis sis-foye plu brilanta kam Venuso, e tam brilanta kam la plena Luno. =
La Krabo-nebuloso, la restajo dil explozanta stelo, esas cirkume 6500 lumya=
ri de Tero, ed olua diametro esis cirkume 11 lumyari. Ye la centro esas la =
Krabo-pulsaro: ca esas neutrono-stelo, havanta diametro cirkume 30 km, qua =
turnas 30,2 foye dum sekundo ed emisas radiado.

1610. John Guy ed altra ko=
loniisti departis de Bristol, Anglia, seglirante a Nov-Lando. Il projetis k=
oloniizar Nov-Lando pos vizito al insulo en 1608. Il ed altra komercisti di=
 Bristol suskriptis a la entraprezo, e rejulo James 1ma grantis charto en a=
prilo 1610. La kolonio, di qua Guy esis guvernanto, esis sucesoza. Il retro=
iris ad Anglia en somero di 1611, e retrovenis a Nov-Lando en 1612 kun plus=
a koloniisti. Il esforcis establisar furo-komerco kun indijeni. Il lasta-fo=
ye retroiris ad Anglia en 1613. En 1618 il divenis urbestro di Bristol.

19=
65. La kantisto Maria Callas aparis lasta-foye en opero, en "Tosca" ye la R=
oyal Opera House en London. El naskis en 1923 en la urbo Nova-York; elua ge=
nitori venis de Grekia. Elua operala kariero komencis en Grekia en 1941, e =
duris en ta lando til 1945, e pose en Italia ed altra-loke. Elua maxim bone=
 konocata rolo esis la titulo-rolo en la opero "Norma" da Vincenzo Bellini.=
 Pos 1965 el docis e koncertis. Dum la lasta yari el rezidis en Paris, ed e=
l mortis en 1977.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 5 julio...

1054. La supernovo SN 1054, qua nuntempe esas vidita kom la Krabo-nebul=
oso, esis observata da Chiniana astronomi. Li notis ke ol esis sis-foye plu=
 brilanta kam Venuso, e tam brilanta kam la plena Luno. La Krabo-nebuloso, =
la restajo dil explozanta stelo, esas cirkume 6500 lumyari de Tero, ed olua=

 diametro esis cirkume 11 lumyari. Ye la centro esas la
 Krabo-pulsaro: ca=
 esas neutrono-stelo, havanta diametro cirkume 30 km, qua turnas 30,2 foye =
dum sekundo ed emisas radiado.

1610. John Guy ed altra koloniisti departis de Brist=
ol, Anglia, seglirante a Nov-Lando. Il projetis koloniizar Nov-Lando pos vi=
zito al insulo en 1608. Il ed altra komercisti di Bristol suskriptis a la e=
ntraprezo, e rejulo James 1ma grantis charto en aprilo 1610. La kolonio, di=
 qua Guy esis guvernanto, esis sucesoza. Il retroiris ad Anglia en somero d=
i 1611, e retrovenis a Nov-Lando en 1612 kun plusa koloniisti. Il esforcis
=
 establisar furo-komerco kun indijeni. Il lasta-foye retroiris ad Anglia en=
 1613. En 1618 il divenis
 urbestro di Bristol.
1965. La kantisto Maria Callas apar=
is lasta-foye en opero, en "Tosca" ye la Royal Opera House en London. El na=
skis en 1923 en la urbo Nova-York; elua genitori venis de Grekia. Elua oper=
ala kariero komencis en Grekia en 1941, e duris en ta lando til 1945, e pos=
e en Italia ed altra-loke. Elua maxim bone konocata rolo esis la titulo-rol=
o en la opero "Norma" da Vincenzo Bellini. Pos 1965 el docis e koncertis. D=
um la lasta yari el rezidis en Paris, ed el mortis en 1977.

Kordiale =
DGW

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Bona vakanco, David! Ni sentos da manko di vua serio.


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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (36) 
  
  
  
  
 Subite, venis ankor-foye en mea mento “La Sufrado di Jesukristo”, ta reprezentajo teatral, quan me partoprenis kom puero en mea vilajo; en olta, arivinte ica punto, yen ke Judas furiozeskis kontre Jesu, sputante ad ilu la sequanta vorti (ca-kaze per la Hispana), quin me ne ja obliviabas, dum lansar adsur la sulo, maxim violentoze, la pano ofrata dal Maestro:
 
  
 “¡NO QUIERO NADA DE TI! 
 
 ¡DESPRECIO EL PAN QUE ME DAS! 
 
 ¡JURO QUE TE ACORDARÁS 
 
 MUY PRONTO, JESÚS, DE MI!”
 
  
 (DE TU ME DEZIRAS NULO! 
 
 ME DESPRIZAS TUA PANO! 
 
 ME JURAS, NAZARETANO, 
 
 KE ME TRE BALDE AGOS ULO!) 
 
  
 Tamen, en la realajo, yen ke Judas respondis nulo a Jesu, ed ilta nur obediis ilca ed ekiris la chambro. 
 
 --He! Quon tu facas ibe? Ka tu punisesis? --Judas jokis. 
 
 --Ka puniso? Nula puniso! Me simple pregesis dal Maestro por ke me restez hike --me respondis. 
 
 --Anke me jus invitesis dal Maestro por ke me agez to, quon me esas agonta. 
 
 --E quon tu esas agonta nun, Judas? Kad irar komprar figi?  
 
 --Ho, no! Me projetas promocar la Maestro per introduktar il che certena povoz autoritatozi, quin me frequentas. 
 
 --Ka vere? E pro quo tu ne promocas anke tu ipsa, quoniam tu tante deziregas famozeskar? 
 
 --Nu, me agos nur kom sorto di reprezentanto, e me ya pagesos po mea laboro --Judas dicis. 
 
 --Ka Jesu advere saveskis e konsentas pri tal promoco? 
 
 --Ho, yes! Kompreneble! Il jus imperis me ager lo agonta! 
 
 --Oke, frato! Paco kun tu! Me devas restar hike, quankam me sincere ne ja savas la pro quo. 
 
 --Ka tu adminime savas ka ni sejornos, anke ca-nokte, che l’ gardeno Getsemani? --Judas questionis me. 
 
 --No, me ne informesis prie --me spontane e naive mentiis, quaze per mea mentio me povus evitar lo ne-evitebla. 
 
 --Bone, me haste departez, nam me havas multo facenda! 
 
 --Irez kun Deo, Judas! 
 
 --Restez kun Deo, Partakael! 
  
  (...) 
  
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Yes, nur astronomi Chinlandana observis la supernovo dil yaro 1054. Europani ta-tempe havis altra sorgi - pri la skismo en l' eklezio - e li ne pensis pri spektar la cielo.

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Kad existas plusa novajo pri ca eventinta konfero?
 

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On publikigos oficala libro di la konfero kun la texti di la diskursi kom a=
rtikli. La publikigo eventos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015.
La=
 numero specala di Progreso pri Louis Couturat donos prizento di ta konfero=
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L=
a filmo di ta konfero esos videbla en la situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale=
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Saluti
Gael Richard

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Kad existas plusa novajo =
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On publikigos oficala libro di la konfero kun la texti di la d=
iskursi kom 
artikli. La publikigo eventos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di la=
 yaro 2015.


La numero specala di Progreso pri Louis Couturat don=
os prizento di ta 
konfero kun rezumo di singla diskurso. Publikigo anke ci=
rkum la komenco di 
2015.


La filmo di ta konfero esos videbla en=
 la situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale 
sup=C3=A9rieure=E2=80=9D. On dicis =
a me =E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakte kande.


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Saluti


Gael Richard


  





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Danko, Ga=C3=ABl, pro la informo. Voluntez mantenar ni informata pri plusa
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novaji pri la temo, precipue pri la koncernata publikigaji.



Ek quo konsi=
stos la specala numero di Progreso? Kad ol koncernos nur la
vivo e verkaro =
da Couturat? Til kande on povas sendar artikli por ta
numero? Ka la nombro =
de pagini di singla artiklo esas limitizita?



Kordiale,



Gon=C3=A7alo

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2014-07-08 14:01 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richard@orange.fr
[=
idolisto] :

>
>
>  On publikigos oficala libro d=
i la konfero kun la texti di la diskursi
> kom artikli. La publikigo evento=
s dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015.
> La numero specala di Progre=
so pri Louis Couturat donos prizento di ta
> konfero kun rezumo di singla d=
iskurso. Publikigo anke cirkum la komenco di
> 2015.
> La filmo di ta konfe=
ro esos videbla en la situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale
> sup=C3=A9rieure=
=E2=80=9D. On dicis a me =E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakte kand=
e.
>
> Saluti
> Gael Richard
>
>
>

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Kara gesamideani!

Ye la sequanta sundio la majoritato di asistonti dil internaciona 
Idokonfero vehos a la loko dil konfero Paris.

Me ya nun deziras a li agreabla voyajo e neobliviebla renkontro kun 
altra samideani.

Me ipsa morge matine departos ad Irland, ube me partoprenos en 
rondvoyajo kun turistala grupo tra ica bela insulo.
Ica voyajo finos ye la 15ma di julio e me erste retrovenos a mea hemurbo 
Nuernberg ye la 16ma di julio kelka minuti pos meznokto.

De ibe me nur dek hori pos mea arivo departos a la direciono Paris pro 
ankore asistar l'internaciona Idorenkontro dum kelka dii.

Pro ke la dato dil konfero chanjesis jus pos ke me aranjis la voyajo ad 
Irland me cafoye erste arivos a la konferloko tri dii pos l'oficala 
arivo-dio e cafoye ne asistos la laborkunsidi.

Volunte me renkontrabus plu multa samideani kam fine anuncis lia partopreno.

Do, me deziras a vi omna agreabla somero.

Kordiale salutas vi omna

Frank Kasper


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La specala numero di Progreso esos numero tote aparta, editota quale libro,=
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r la vivo e la verkaro di Louis Couturat, ma ne nur pri Ido ma anke pri fil=
ozofio, logiko, matematiko, edc. Ol esos memorigo por nia pioniro, qua esis=
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steno di plura ciencisti (de universitati di Francia, di Germania, forsan d=
i Italia), qui aceptis skribar artikli pri temi qui relatas Couturat. Ni so=
rgos partikulare la qualeso di l=E2=80=99edito por produktar digna memorigo=
 di Louis Couturat. Ta numero di Progreso esos sendata ne nur ad idisti ma =
anke a plura universitatani e ciencisti.
On povas sendar artikli til la fin=
o di oktobro. La nombro di pagini ne esas limitizita ma ni deziras artikli =
di alta intelektala qualeso. Me expektas numero pasable dika.
La propozata =
artikli esas sendenda a me ipsa.

Kordiale
Gael

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Ek quo konsistos la specala numero di Prog=
reso? Kad ol koncernos nur la vivo e verkaro da Couturat? Til kande on pova=
s sendar artikli por ta numero? Ka la nombro de pagini di singla artiklo es=
as limitizita? 



Kordiale,



Gon=C3=A7alo




2014-07-08 14:01 GMT+01:00=
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  On publikigos oficala libro di la konfero kun la texti =
di la diskursi kom artikli. La publikigo eventos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto=
 di la yaro 2015.
  La numero specala di Progreso pri Louis Couturat donos =
prizento di ta konfero kun rezumo di singla diskurso. Publikigo anke cirkum=
 la komenco di 2015.
  La filmo di ta konfero esos videbla en la situo di l=
a =E2=80=9CEcole Normale sup=C3=A9rieure=E2=80=9D. On dicis a me =E2=80=9Cb=
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Progreso esos se=
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On publikigos oficala libro di la konfero kun la texti di la diskursi=
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 2015.

  
La numero specala di Progreso pri Louis Couturat donos =
prizento di ta 
  konfero kun rezumo di singla diskurso. Publikigo anke cir=
kum la komenco di 
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La filmo di ta konfero esos videbla=
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Kad existas=
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edc.)?


2=
014-07-08 18:27 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richard@orange.fr
[id=
olisto] :

>
>
>  La specala numero di Progreso e=
sos numero tote aparta, editota quale
> libro, ed esos komprebla che la pre=
cipua Internet-librovendisti.  Ol
> koncernos nur la vivo e la verkaro di L=
ouis Couturat, ma ne nur pri Ido ma
> anke pri filozofio, logiko, matematik=
o, edc. Ol esos memorigo por nia
> pioniro, qua esis l=E2=80=99unesma redak=
toro di nia revuo Progreso. Pro to, me
> recevis la susteno di plura cienci=
sti (de universitati di Francia, di
> Germania, forsan di Italia), qui acep=
tis skribar artikli pri temi qui
> relatas Couturat. Ni sorgos partikulare =
la qualeso di l=E2=80=99edito por produktar
> digna memorigo di Louis Coutu=
rat. Ta numero di Progreso esos sendata ne nur
> ad idisti ma anke a plura =
universitatani e ciencisti.
> On povas sendar artikli til la fino di oktobr=
o. La nombro di pagini ne
> esas limitizita ma ni deziras artikli di alta i=
ntelektala qualeso. Me
> expektas numero pasable dika.
> La propozata artik=
li esas sendenda a me ipsa.
>
> Kordiale
> Gael
>
>   *From:* mailto:idolis=
to@yahoogroups.com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2=
014 4:47 PM
> *To:* Idolisto 
> *Subject:* Re: [i=
dolisto] Re: konfero Louis Couturat
>
>
>
>  Danko, Ga=C3=ABl, pro la infor=
mo. Voluntez mantenar ni informata pri plusa
> novaji pri la temo, precipue=
 pri la koncernata publikigaji.
>
>
>
> Ek quo konsistos la specala numero =
di Progreso? Kad ol koncernos nur la
> vivo e verkaro da Couturat? Til kand=
e on povas sendar artikli por ta
> numero? Ka la nombro de pagini di singla=
 artiklo esas limitizita?
>
>
>
> Kordiale,
>
>
>
> Gon=C3=A7alo
>
>
> 2014=
-07-08 14:01 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richardd gael.loic.richard@orange.fr
> [ido=
listo] :
>
>>
>>
>>  On publikigos oficala libro =
di la konfero kun la texti di la diskursi
>> kom artikli. La publikigo even=
tos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015.
>> La numero specala di Pro=
greso pri Louis Couturat donos prizento di ta
>> konfero kun rezumo di sing=
la diskurso. Publikigo anke cirkum la komenco di
>> 2015.
>> La filmo di ta=
 konfero esos videbla en la situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale
>> sup=C3=A9=
rieure=E2=80=9D. On dicis a me =E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakt=
e kande.
>>
>> Saluti
>> Gael Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>  
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=
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ofio, 
logiko, matematiko, edc. Ol esos memorigo por nia pioniro, qua esis =
l=E2=80=99unesma 
redaktoro di nia revuo Progreso. Pro to, me recevis la su=
steno di plura 
ciencisti (de universitati di Francia, di Germania, forsan =
di Italia), qui 
aceptis skribar artikli pri temi qui relatas Couturat. Ni =
sorgos partikulare la 
qualeso di l=E2=80=99edito por produktar digna memor=
igo di Louis Couturat. Ta numero di 
Progreso esos sendata ne nur ad idisti=
 ma anke a plura universitatani e 
ciencisti.


On povas sendar ar=
tikli til la fino di oktobro. La nombro di pagini ne esas 
limitizita ma ni=
 deziras artikli di alta intelektala qualeso. Me expektas numero 
pasable d=
ika.


La propozata artikli esas sendenda a me ipsa.


=
=C2=A0


Kordiale


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=
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karo 
da Couturat? Til kande on povas sendar artikli por ta numero? Ka la n=
ombro de 
pagini di singla artiklo esas limitizita? 


=C2=A0


Kordiale,


=C2=A0=



Gon=C3=A7alo






2014-07-08 14:01 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richard@oran=
ge.fr 
[idolisto] <idolisto@yahoogroups.com>:
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=C2=A0 
  

  

  

  

  

  

  
On pu=
blikigos oficala libro di la konfero kun la texti di la diskursi kom 
  art=
ikli. La publikigo eventos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015.
  
La numero specala di Progreso pri Louis Couturat donos prizento di=
 ta 
  konfero kun rezumo di singla diskurso. Publikigo anke cirkum la kome=
nco di 
  2015.

  
La filmo di ta konfero esos videbla en la situ=
o di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale 
  sup=C3=A9rieure=E2=80=9D. On dicis a me =
=E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakte kande.

  
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Yes, me aplikos la klasika normi di l=E2=80=99imprimerio nacionala di Franc=
ia (kande li ne kontredicas la reguli di Ido). La artikli esas sendenda kun=
 tipografio tam bona kam posibla, ma me normaligos li e sendos a la autori =
la artikli normaligita (kun eventuale propozi di korektigo) kom imprimprobo=
 por aprobo. Me preferas formato Word (doc o docx) por la sendaji. L=E2=80=
=99imprimprobi esos en formato pdf.
Bibliografio, citaji esas bonvenanta, q=
uale en ciencala artikli. On darfas uzar infrapagina noti. Ilustruri o foto=
grafuri esas posibla (atencez tamen la autoroyuri). Pro motivi di kusto, ko=
loro esos uzata sparegeme o forsan tote ne uzata (ecepte por la kovrilo).

=
Kordiale
Gael 


From: mailto:idolisto@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July=
 08, 2014 8:06 PM
To: Idolisto 
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Re: konfero Louis C=
outurat

  

Tre gratulinda (e susteninda) inicio! Me certe sendos artiklo.=
 

Kad existas redaktala normi (pri bibliografio, citaji, liter-tipo, kursi=
vi, edc.)?



2014-07-08 18:27 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richar=
d@orange.fr [idolisto] :

    

  La specala nume=
ro di Progreso esos numero tote aparta, editota quale libro, ed esos kompre=
bla che la precipua Internet-librovendisti.  Ol koncernos nur la vivo e la =
verkaro di Louis Couturat, ma ne nur pri Ido ma anke pri filozofio, logiko,=
 matematiko, edc. Ol esos memorigo por nia pioniro, qua esis l=E2=80=99unes=
ma redaktoro di nia revuo Progreso. Pro to, me recevis la susteno di plura =
ciencisti (de universitati di Francia, di Germania, forsan di Italia), qui =
aceptis skribar artikli pri temi qui relatas Couturat. Ni sorgos partikular=
e la qualeso di l=E2=80=99edito por produktar digna memorigo di Louis Coutu=
rat. Ta numero di Progreso esos sendata ne nur ad idisti ma anke a plura un=
iversitatani e ciencisti.
  On povas sendar artikli til la fino di oktobro.=
 La nombro di pagini ne esas limitizita ma ni deziras artikli di alta intel=
ektala qualeso. Me expektas numero pasable dika.
  La propozata artikli esa=
s sendenda a me ipsa.

  Kordiale
  Gael

  From: mailto:idolisto@yahoogrou=
ps.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:47 PM
  To: Idolisto 
  Subject: R=
e: [idolisto] Re: konfero Louis Couturat

    

  Danko, Ga=C3=ABl, pro la =
informo. Voluntez mantenar ni informata pri plusa novaji pri la temo, preci=
pue pri la koncernata publikigaji.



  Ek quo konsistos la specala numero =
di Progreso? Kad ol koncernos nur la vivo e verkaro da Couturat? Til kande =
on povas sendar artikli por ta numero? Ka la nombro de pagini di singla art=
iklo esas limitizita? 



  Kordiale,



  Gon=C3=A7alo




  2014-07-08 14=
:01 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richard@orange.fr [idolisto] :

      

    On publikigos oficala libro di la konf=
ero kun la texti di la diskursi kom artikli. La publikigo eventos dum l=E2=
=80=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015.
    La numero specala di Progreso pri L=
ouis Couturat donos prizento di ta konfero kun rezumo di singla diskurso. P=
ublikigo anke cirkum la komenco di 2015.
    La filmo di ta konfero esos vi=
debla en la situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale sup=C3=A9rieure=E2=80=9D. On=
 dicis a me =E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakte kande.

    Salut=
i
    Gael Richard




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Yes, me aplikos la klasika normi di l=E2=80=99imprimerio nacio=
nala di Francia 
(kande li ne kontredicas la reguli di Ido). La artikli esa=
s sendenda kun 
tipografio tam bona kam posibla, ma me normaligos li e send=
os a la autori la 
artikli normaligita (kun eventuale propozi di korektigo)=
 kom imprimprobo por 
aprobo. Me preferas formato Word (doc o docx) por la =
sendaji. L=E2=80=99imprimprobi esos 
en formato pdf.


Bibliografi=
o, citaji esas bonvenanta, quale en ciencala artikli. On darfas 
uzar infra=
pagina noti. Ilustruri o fotografuri esas posibla (atencez tamen la 
autoro=
yuri). Pro motivi di kusto, koloro esos uzata sparegeme o forsan tote ne 
u=
zata (ecepte por la kovrilo).


 


Kordiale

<=
DIV>Gael 


 


 











Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:06 PM


To:<=
/B> Idolisto 


Subject: Re: [idolisto] Re: konfero =
Louis Couturat


 


  






=

Tre gratulinda (e susteninda) inicio! Me certe sendos artiklo. 

=

 


Kad existas redaktala normi (pri bibliografio, citaj=
i, liter-tipo, kursivi, 
edc.)?





2014-07-08 18:27 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richard@orange.fr 
[idolisto] <idolisto@yahoogroups.com>:


    
  

=
  

  

  

  

  

  
La specala numero di Progr=
eso esos numero tote aparta, editota quale 
  libro, ed esos komprebla che =
la precipua Internet-librovendisti.  Ol 
  koncernos nur la vivo e la =
verkaro di Louis Couturat, ma ne nur pri Ido ma 
  anke pri filozofio, logi=
ko, matematiko, edc. Ol esos memorigo por nia pioniro, 
  qua esis l=E2=80=
=99unesma redaktoro di nia revuo Progreso. Pro to, me recevis la 
  susteno=
 di plura ciencisti (de universitati di Francia, di Germania, forsan di 
  =
Italia), qui aceptis skribar artikli pri temi qui relatas Couturat. Ni sorg=
os 
  partikulare la qualeso di l=E2=80=99edito por produktar digna memorig=
o di Louis 
  Couturat. Ta numero di Progreso esos sendata ne nur ad idisti=
 ma anke a plura 
  universitatani e ciencisti.

  
On povas senda=
r artikli til la fino di oktobro. La nombro di pagini ne 
  esas limitizita=
 ma ni deziras artikli di alta intelektala qualeso. Me expektas 
  numero p=
asable dika.

  
La propozata artikli esas sendenda a me ipsa.
  
 

  
Kordiale

  
Gael

  
 =
;

  

  

  

  

  
  
S=
ent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:47 PM

  
  
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Re: kon=
fero Louis 
  Couturat

  
 

  

=
  

  
  

  

  

  

  
Danko, Ga=C3=ABl, pro =
la informo. Voluntez mantenar ni informata pri plusa 
  novaji pri la temo,=
 precipue pri la koncernata 
  publikigaji.

  
 
=

  
Ek 
  quo kon=
sistos la specala numero di Progreso? Kad ol koncernos nur la vivo e 
  ver=
karo da Couturat? Til kande on povas sendar artikli por ta numero? Ka la 
 =
 nombro de pagini di singla artiklo esas limitizita? 

  
 

  
Kordiale,

  
 

  
Gon=C3=A7alo

  



  
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00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richard@orange.fr [idolisto] &=
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to@yahoogroups.com>:

  

    
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ursi 
    kom artikli. La publikigo eventos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di l=
a yaro 2015.

    
La numero specala di Progreso pri Louis Coutura=
t donos prizento di ta 
    konfero kun rezumo di singla diskurso. Publikig=
o anke cirkum la komenco di 
    2015.

    
La filmo di ta konfer=
o esos videbla en la situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale 
    sup=C3=A9rieur=
e=E2=80=9D. On dicis a me =E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakte kan=
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Kara Frank,

agreabla voyajo ad Irlando, e retrovenez sane a hemlando.
Me joyas rividar tu itere en Paris inter plusa konocat amiki.

Til balde
Eberhard


Von: Frank Kasper
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> Kara gesamideani!
>
> Ye la sequanta sundio la majoritato di asistonti dil internaciona
> Idokonfero vehos a la loko dil konfero Paris.
>
> Me ya nun deziras a li agreabla voyajo e neobliviebla renkontro kun
> altra samideani.
>
> Me ipsa morge matine departos ad Irland, ube me partoprenos en
> rondvoyajo kun turistala grupo tra ica bela insulo.
> Ica voyajo finos ye la 15ma di julio e me erste retrovenos a mea hemurbo
> Nuernberg ye la 16ma di julio kelka minuti pos meznokto.
>
> De ibe me nur dek hori pos mea arivo departos a la direciono Paris pro
> ankore asistar l'internaciona Idorenkontro dum kelka dii.
>
> Pro ke la dato dil konfero chanjesis jus pos ke me aranjis la voyajo ad
> Irland me cafoye erste arivos a la konferloko tri dii pos l'oficala
> arivo-dio e cafoye ne asistos la laborkunsidi.
>
> Volunte me renkontrabus plu multa samideani kam fine anuncis lia partopreno.
>
> Do, me deziras a vi omna agreabla somero.
>
> Kordiale salutas vi omna
>
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Kara Gael,
Ka me bone komprenas ke omna artikli esos en Ido-linguo? Me pens=
as ke to esas dezirenda, precipue se koncernas edituro di Progreso (ofical =
organo di ULI).
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
--
La skopo di la stato es=
as libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : idolisto@yahoog=
roups.com
Datum : 08/07/2014 19:27
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp=
 : Re: [idolisto] Re: konfero Louis Couturat
 
 
  
    
      
      
    =
  
La specala numero di Progreso esos numero tote aparta, editota quale lib=
ro, 
ed esos komprebla che la precipua Internet-librovendisti.  Ol koncerno=
s nur 
la vivo e la verkaro di Louis Couturat, ma ne nur pri Ido ma anke pr=
i filozofio, 
logiko, matematiko, edc. Ol esos memorigo por nia pioniro, qu=
a esis l=E2=80=99unesma 
redaktoro di nia revuo Progreso. Pro to, me recevi=
s la susteno di plura 
ciencisti (de universitati di Francia, di Germania, =
forsan di Italia), qui 
aceptis skribar artikli pri temi qui relatas Coutur=
at. Ni sorgos partikulare la 
qualeso di l=E2=80=99edito por produktar dign=
a memorigo di Louis Couturat. Ta numero di 
Progreso esos sendata ne nur ad=
 idisti ma anke a plura universitatani e 
ciencisti.
On povas sendar artikl=
i til la fino di oktobro. La nombro di pagini ne esas 
limitizita ma ni dez=
iras artikli di alta intelektala qualeso. Me expektas numero 
pasable dika.=

La propozata artikli esas sendenda a me ipsa.
Kordiale
Gael
From: mailto:i=
dolisto@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:47 PM
To: Idolisto =

Subject: Re: [idolisto] Re: konfero Louis Couturat
  
Danko, 
Ga=C3=ABl, p=
ro la informo. Voluntez mantenar ni informata pri plusa novaji pri la 
temo=
, precipue pri la koncernata publikigaji.
 
Ek quo 
konsistos la specala nu=
mero di Progreso? Kad ol koncernos nur la vivo e verkaro 
da Couturat? Til =
kande on povas sendar artikli por ta numero? Ka la nombro de 
pagini di sin=
gla artiklo esas limitizita? 
 
Kordiale,
 
Gon=C3=A7alo
2014-07-08 14:01 G=
MT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richard@orange.fr 
[idolisto] :
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
On publikigos oficala libro =
di la konfero kun la texti di la diskursi kom 
  artikli. La publikigo even=
tos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015.
  
La numero specala di Pro=
greso pri Louis Couturat donos prizento di ta 
  konfero kun rezumo di sing=
la diskurso. Publikigo anke cirkum la komenco di 
  2015.
  
La filmo di ta=
 konfero esos videbla en la situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale 
  sup=C3=A9=
rieure=E2=80=9D. On dicis a me =E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakt=
e kande.
  
  
Saluti
  
Gael Richard
  
  
  
  
 
    
     
    
    

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Kara Gael,
 
Ka me bone komprenas ke omna art=
ikli esos en Ido-linguo? Me pensas ke to esas dezirenda, precipue se koncer=
nas edituro di Progreso (ofical organo di ULI).
 
=
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
--
La skopo=
 di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----<=
br>Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 08/07/2014 19:27
Aan : idol=
isto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] Re: konfero Louis Coutur=
at














 

 



 =
   

      
      
      






La specala numero di Progreso esos numero tote aparta, editota quale libr=
o, 
ed esos komprebla che la precipua Internet-librovendisti.  Ol konc=
ernos nur 
la vivo e la verkaro di Louis Couturat, ma ne nur pri Ido ma ank=
e pri filozofio, 
logiko, matematiko, edc. Ol esos memorigo por nia pioniro=
, qua esis l=E2=80=99unesma 
redaktoro di nia revuo Progreso. Pro to, me re=
cevis la susteno di plura 
ciencisti (de universitati di Francia, di German=
ia, forsan di Italia), qui 
aceptis skribar artikli pri temi qui relatas Co=
uturat. Ni sorgos partikulare la 
qualeso di l=E2=80=99edito por produktar =
digna memorigo di Louis Couturat. Ta numero di 
Progreso esos sendata ne nu=
r ad idisti ma anke a plura universitatani e 
ciencisti.


On pova=
s sendar artikli til la fino di oktobro. La nombro di pagini ne esas 
limit=
izita ma ni deziras artikli di alta intelektala qualeso. Me expektas numero=
 
pasable dika.


La propozata artikli esas sendenda a me ipsa.

 


Kordiale


Gael


 
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Subject: Re: [idolisto] Re: konfero Louis Couturat


 


  




=


Danko, 
Ga=C3=ABl, pro la informo. Voluntez mantenar ni informata pr=
i plusa novaji pri la 
temo, precipue pri la koncernata publikigaji.=



=
 


Ek quo 
konsistos la specala numero di Progreso? Kad ol koncer=
nos nur la vivo e verkaro 
da Couturat? Til kande on povas sendar artikli p=
or ta numero? Ka la nombro de 
pagini di singla artiklo esas limitizita? 


 


Kordiale,


 


Gon=C3=A7alo=






2014-07-08 14:0=
1 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richard@orange.fr 
[idolisto] <idolisto@yahoogroups=
.com>:



  
  
  

  

  

  

 =
 

  

  
On publikigos oficala libro di la konfero ku=
n la texti di la diskursi kom 
  artikli. La publikigo eventos dum l=E2=80=
=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015.

  
La numero specala di Progreso=
 pri Louis Couturat donos prizento di ta 
  konfero kun rezumo di singla di=
skurso. Publikigo anke cirkum la komenco di 
  2015.

  
La filmo =
di ta konfero esos videbla en la situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale 
  sup=
=C3=A9rieure=E2=80=9D. On dicis a me =E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas=
 exakte kande.

  
 

  
Saluti

  
Gael Ri=
chard

  

  

   

  
 
=





    

=
     

    










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Danko Frank, voyajez bone e til rivido en Paris.

Me departos saturdio a Francia, ed arivos en Paris ye la 17ma. Til balde.

Saluti amikala,

Hans Stuifbergen
--
La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)

>----Origineel Bericht----
>Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
>Datum : 08/07/2014 21:27
>Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com, germanlinguaidist@yahoogroups.com, IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com
>Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] Me deziras ad omna asistonti dil internaciona Idokonfero 2014 agreabla voyajo
>
>Kara Frank,
>
>agreabla voyajo ad Irlando, e retrovenez sane a hemlando.
>Me joyas rividar tu itere en Paris inter plusa konocat amiki.
>
>Til balde
>Eberhard
>
>
>Von: Frank Kasper
>Datum: 08.07.2014 18:13
>
>> Kara gesamideani!
>>
>> Ye la sequanta sundio la majoritato di asistonti dil internaciona
>> Idokonfero vehos a la loko dil konfero Paris.
>>
>> Me ya nun deziras a li agreabla voyajo e neobliviebla renkontro kun
>> altra samideani.
>>
>> Me ipsa morge matine departos ad Irland, ube me partoprenos en
>> rondvoyajo kun turistala grupo tra ica bela insulo.
>> Ica voyajo finos ye la 15ma di julio e me erste retrovenos a mea hemurbo
>> Nuernberg ye la 16ma di julio kelka minuti pos meznokto.
>>
>> De ibe me nur dek hori pos mea arivo departos a la direciono Paris pro
>> ankore asistar l'internaciona Idorenkontro dum kelka dii.
>>
>> Pro ke la dato dil konfero chanjesis jus pos ke me aranjis la voyajo ad
>> Irland me cafoye erste arivos a la konferloko tri dii pos l'oficala
>> arivo-dio e cafoye ne asistos la laborkunsidi.
>>
>> Volunte me renkontrabus plu multa samideani kam fine anuncis lia partopreno.
>>
>> Do, me deziras a vi omna agreabla somero.
>>
>> Kordiale salutas vi omna
>>
>> Frank Kasper
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Asistez la internaciona Ido-konfero honorizante Louis Couturat, qua
>eventos de 13-esma til 20-esma di julio 2014 en Paris, Francia.
>Plusa informi trovesas ye:
>http://www.ido.li/index.php/ULI/Paris2014.
>La programo esas querebla kom pdf-dokumento hike:
>http://www.ido.li/Idokonfero2014/programo.pdf
>Formulario por prezervar dormo-chambri trovesas hike:
>https://docs.google.com/forms/d/11mmorENMPXv22GM0sf6X3T4eRTn1B4gvsv40skAABI8/viewform
>
>Ido, linguo neutra inter diferanta kulturi. Linguo di amikeso!
>Generala informi pri agadi favore la Linguo Internaciona Ido trovesas ye:
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Omna artikli skribita en altra linguo esos tradukita en Ido.

Gael

From: m=
ailto:idolisto@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:53 PM
To: id=
olisto@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: Re: [idolisto] Re: konfero Louis Coutu=
rat

  

Kara Gael,

Ka me bone komprenas ke omna artikli esos en Ido-lingu=
o? Me pensas ke to esas dezirenda, precipue se koncernas edituro di Progres=
o (ofical organo di ULI).

Saluti amikala,

Hans Stuifbergen

--
La skopo d=
i la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)

  ----Origineel Bericht----
  Van=
 : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
  Datum : 08/07/2014 19:27
  Aan : idolisto@yah=
oogroups.com
  Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] Re: konfero Louis Couturat

    
=

  La specala numero di Progreso esos numero tote aparta, editota quale lib=
ro, ed esos komprebla che la precipua Internet-librovendisti.  Ol koncernos=
 nur la vivo e la verkaro di Louis Couturat, ma ne nur pri Ido ma anke pri =
filozofio, logiko, matematiko, edc. Ol esos memorigo por nia pioniro, qua e=
sis l=E2=80=99unesma redaktoro di nia revuo Progreso. Pro to, me recevis la=
 susteno di plura ciencisti (de universitati di Francia, di Germania, forsa=
n di Italia), qui aceptis skribar artikli pri temi qui relatas Couturat. Ni=
 sorgos partikulare la qualeso di l=E2=80=99edito por produktar digna memor=
igo di Louis Couturat. Ta numero di Progreso esos sendata ne nur ad idisti =
ma anke a plura universitatani e ciencisti.
  On povas sendar artikli til l=
a fino di oktobro. La nombro di pagini ne esas limitizita ma ni deziras art=
ikli di alta intelektala qualeso. Me expektas numero pasable dika.
  La pro=
pozata artikli esas sendenda a me ipsa.

  Kordiale
  Gael

  From: mailto:=
idolisto@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:47 PM
  To: Idol=
isto 
  Subject: Re: [idolisto] Re: konfero Louis Couturat

    

  Danko, =
Ga=C3=ABl, pro la informo. Voluntez mantenar ni informata pri plusa novaji =
pri la temo, precipue pri la koncernata publikigaji.



  Ek quo konsistos =
la specala numero di Progreso? Kad ol koncernos nur la vivo e verkaro da Co=
uturat? Til kande on povas sendar artikli por ta numero? Ka la nombro de pa=
gini di singla artiklo esas limitizita? 



  Kordiale,



  Gon=C3=A7alo

=



  2014-07-08 14:01 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richard@orange.=
fr [idolisto] :

      

    On publikigos ofical=
a libro di la konfero kun la texti di la diskursi kom artikli. La publikigo=
 eventos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015.
    La numero specala =
di Progreso pri Louis Couturat donos prizento di ta konfero kun rezumo di s=
ingla diskurso. Publikigo anke cirkum la komenco di 2015.
    La filmo di t=
a konfero esos videbla en la situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale sup=C3=A9ri=
eure=E2=80=9D. On dicis a me =E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakte =
kande.

    Saluti
    Gael Richard







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Gael






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Couturat


 


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=
Kara Gael,


 


Ka me bone komprenas ke omna artikl=
i esos en Ido-linguo? Me pensas ke to 
esas dezirenda, precipue se koncerna=
s edituro di Progreso (ofical organo di 
ULI).


 

Saluti amikala,


 


Hans Stuifbergen


--
La sk=
opo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de 
Spinoza)

----Origineel 
  Beric=
ht----
Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 08/07/2014 
  19:27
=
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : Re: [idolisto] Re: 
  konfero=
 Louis Couturat

  
  

  

  =


  

  
La specala numero di Progreso esos numero tote apa=
rta, editota quale 
  libro, ed esos komprebla che la precipua Internet-lib=
rovendisti.  Ol 
  koncernos nur la vivo e la verkaro di Louis Coutura=
t, ma ne nur pri Ido ma 
  anke pri filozofio, logiko, matematiko, edc. Ol =
esos memorigo por nia pioniro, 
  qua esis l=E2=80=99unesma redaktoro di ni=
a revuo Progreso. Pro to, me recevis la 
  susteno di plura ciencisti (de u=
niversitati di Francia, di Germania, forsan di 
  Italia), qui aceptis skri=
bar artikli pri temi qui relatas Couturat. Ni sorgos 
  partikulare la qual=
eso di l=E2=80=99edito por produktar digna memorigo di Louis 
  Couturat. T=
a numero di Progreso esos sendata ne nur ad idisti ma anke a plura 
  unive=
rsitatani e ciencisti.

  
On povas sendar artikli til la fino di =
oktobro. La nombro di pagini ne 
  esas limitizita ma ni deziras artikli di=
 alta intelektala qualeso. Me expektas 
  numero pasable dika.

  La propozata artikli esas sendenda a me ipsa.

  
 

  =

Kordiale

  
Gael

  
 

  

  

  

  

  
  
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:47 PM
  
  
Subject: Re: =
[idolisto] Re: konfero Louis 
  Couturat

  
 

  
  

  

  

  

  
Danko, Ga=C3=ABl=
, pro la informo. Voluntez mantenar ni informata pri plusa 
  novaji pri la=
 temo, precipue pri la koncernata 
  publikigaji.

  
&nbs=
p;

  =

Ek 
  q=
uo konsistos la specala numero di Progreso? Kad ol koncernos nur la vivo e =

  verkaro da Couturat? Til kande on povas sendar artikli por ta numero? Ka=
 la 
  nombro de pagini di singla artiklo esas limitizita? 
  
<=
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=

  
Kordiale,

  
 

  
Gon=C3=A7alo

  



  
2014-07-08 14:01 GMT+01:=
00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael=
.loic.richard@orange.fr 
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On publik=
igos oficala libro di la konfero kun la texti di la diskursi 
    kom artik=
li. La publikigo eventos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015.

=
    
La numero specala di Progreso pri Louis Couturat donos prizento di=
 ta 
    konfero kun rezumo di singla diskurso. Publikigo anke cirkum la ko=
menco di 
    2015.

    
La filmo di ta konfero esos videbla en l=
a situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale 
    sup=C3=A9rieure=E2=80=9D. On dici=
s a me =E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakte kande.

    
=
 

    
Saluti

    
Gael Richard

    

    

    
 

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posibla por sustenar ol.


2014-07-08 20:16 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richar=
d gael.loic.richard@orange.fr
[idolisto] :

>
>
>=
  Yes, me aplikos la klasika normi di l=E2=80=99imprimerio nacionala di Fra=
ncia
> (kande li ne kontredicas la reguli di Ido). La artikli esas sendenda=
 kun
> tipografio tam bona kam posibla, ma me normaligos li e sendos a la a=
utori
> la artikli normaligita (kun eventuale propozi di korektigo) kom imp=
rimprobo
> por aprobo. Me preferas formato Word (doc o docx) por la sendaji=
.
> L=E2=80=99imprimprobi esos en formato pdf.
> Bibliografio, citaji esas =
bonvenanta, quale en ciencala artikli. On darfas
> uzar infrapagina noti. I=
lustruri o fotografuri esas posibla (atencez tamen
> la autoroyuri). Pro mo=
tivi di kusto, koloro esos uzata sparegeme o forsan
> tote ne uzata (ecepte=
 por la kovrilo).
>
> Kordiale
> Gael
>
>
>   *From:* mailto:idolisto@yahoo=
groups.com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:06=
 PM
> *To:* Idolisto 
> *Subject:* Re: [idolisto]=
 Re: konfero Louis Couturat
>
>
>
>  Tre gratulinda (e susteninda) inicio! =
Me certe sendos artiklo.
>
> Kad existas redaktala normi (pri bibliografio,=
 citaji, liter-tipo,
> kursivi, edc.)?
>
>
> 2014-07-08 18:27 GMT+01:00 Ga=
=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.richard@orange.fr
> [idolisto] :
>
>>
>>
>>  La specala numero di Progreso esos numero tote aparta=
, editota quale
>> libro, ed esos komprebla che la precipua Internet-librov=
endisti.  Ol
>> koncernos nur la vivo e la verkaro di Louis Couturat, ma ne=
 nur pri Ido ma
>> anke pri filozofio, logiko, matematiko, edc. Ol esos mem=
origo por nia
>> pioniro, qua esis l=E2=80=99unesma redaktoro di nia revuo =
Progreso. Pro to, me
>> recevis la susteno di plura ciencisti (de universit=
ati di Francia, di
>> Germania, forsan di Italia), qui aceptis skribar arti=
kli pri temi qui
>> relatas Couturat. Ni sorgos partikulare la qualeso di l=
=E2=80=99edito por produktar
>> digna memorigo di Louis Couturat. Ta numero=
 di Progreso esos sendata ne nur
>> ad idisti ma anke a plura universitatan=
i e ciencisti.
>> On povas sendar artikli til la fino di oktobro. La nombro=
 di pagini ne
>> esas limitizita ma ni deziras artikli di alta intelektala =
qualeso. Me
>> expektas numero pasable dika.
>> La propozata artikli esas s=
endenda a me ipsa.
>>
>> Kordiale
>> Gael
>>
>>   *From:* mailto:idolisto@y=
ahoogroups.com 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2014=
 4:47 PM
>> *To:* Idolisto 
>> *Subject:* Re: [id=
olisto] Re: konfero Louis Couturat
>>
>>
>>
>>  Danko, Ga=C3=ABl, pro la in=
formo. Voluntez mantenar ni informata pri plusa
>> novaji pri la temo, prec=
ipue pri la koncernata publikigaji.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ek quo konsistos la specala=
 numero di Progreso? Kad ol koncernos nur la
>> vivo e verkaro da Couturat?=
 Til kande on povas sendar artikli por ta
>> numero? Ka la nombro de pagini=
 di singla artiklo esas limitizita?
>>
>>
>>
>> Kordiale,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gon=
=C3=A7alo
>>
>>
>> 2014-07-08 14:01 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richard gael.loic.r=
ichard@orange.fr
>> [idolisto] :
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  =
On publikigos oficala libro di la konfero kun la texti di la diskursi
>>> k=
om artikli. La publikigo eventos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015=
.
>>> La numero specala di Progreso pri Louis Couturat donos prizento di ta=

>>> konfero kun rezumo di singla diskurso. Publikigo anke cirkum la komenc=
o di
>>> 2015.
>>> La filmo di ta konfero esos videbla en la situo di la =
=E2=80=9CEcole Normale
>>> sup=C3=A9rieure=E2=80=9D. On dicis a me =E2=80=
=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakte kande.
>>>
>>> Saluti
>>> Gael Rich=
ard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>  
>

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Danko, G=C3=A4el, pro la plusa informo. La projeto esas am=
bicioza: me agos omno posibla por sustenar ol.

2014-07-08 20:16 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richa=
rd gael.loic.richard@orange.=
fr [idolisto] <idolisto@yahoogroups.com>:














 


=C2=A0




  



    

      
      
  =
    







Yes, me aplikos la klasika normi di l=
=E2=80=99imprimerio nacionala di Francia 
(kande li ne kontredicas la regul=
i di Ido). La artikli esas sendenda kun 
tipografio tam bona kam posibla, m=
a me normaligos li e sendos a la autori la 
artikli normaligita (kun eventu=
ale propozi di korektigo) kom imprimprobo por 
aprobo. Me preferas formato =
Word (doc o docx) por la sendaji. L=E2=80=99imprimprobi esos 
en formato pd=
f.


Bibliografio, citaji esas bonvenanta, quale en ciencala artik=
li. On darfas 
uzar infrapagina noti. Ilustruri o fotografuri esas posibla =
(atencez tamen la 
autoroyuri). Pro motivi di kusto, koloro esos uzata spar=
egeme o forsan tote ne 
uzata (ecepte por la kovrilo).


=C2=A0

Kordiale


Gael 


=C2=A0


=C2=A0










Sent=
: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:06 PM


T=
o: Idolisto 


Subject: Re: [=
idolisto] Re: konfero Louis Couturat


=C2=
=A0


=C2=A0 





=


Tre gratulinda (e susteninda) inicio! Me certe sendos artiklo. 
=


=C2=A0


Kad existas redaktala normi (pri bibliografio, cita=
ji, liter-tipo, kursivi, 
edc.)?





2014-07-08 18:27 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richa=
rd gael.lo=
ic.richard@orange.fr 
[idolisto] <idolisto@yahoogroups.com&=
gt;:



 =
 
=C2=A0 
  
  

  

  

  

  

  
La specala nume=
ro di Progreso esos numero tote aparta, editota quale 
  libro, ed esos kom=
prebla che la precipua Internet-librovendisti.=C2=A0 Ol 
  koncernos nur la=
 vivo e la verkaro di Louis Couturat, ma ne nur pri Ido ma 
  anke pri filo=
zofio, logiko, matematiko, edc. Ol esos memorigo por nia pioniro, 
  qua es=
is l=E2=80=99unesma redaktoro di nia revuo Progreso. Pro to, me recevis la =

  susteno di plura ciencisti (de universitati di Francia, di Germania, for=
san di 
  Italia), qui aceptis skribar artikli pri temi qui relatas Coutura=
t. Ni sorgos 
  partikulare la qualeso di l=E2=80=99edito por produktar dig=
na memorigo di Louis 
  Couturat. Ta numero di Progreso esos sendata ne nur=
 ad idisti ma anke a plura 
  universitatani e ciencisti.

  
On p=
ovas sendar artikli til la fino di oktobro. La nombro di pagini ne 
  esas =
limitizita ma ni deziras artikli di alta intelektala qualeso. Me expektas 
=
  numero pasable dika.

  
La propozata artikli esas sendenda a me=
 ipsa.

  
=C2=A0

  
Kordiale

  
Gael

  =

=C2=A0

  

  

  

  

  
From: <=
a title=3D"idolisto@yahoogroups.com" href=3D"mailto:idolisto@yahoogroups.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">mailto:idolisto@yahoogroups.com 

  
S=
ent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:47 PM

  
  
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Re: k=
onfero Louis 
  Couturat

  
=C2=A0

  
  

  
=
=C2=A0 

  

  

  

  
Danko, Ga=C3=AB=
l, pro la informo. Voluntez mantenar ni informata pri plusa 
  novaji pri l=
a temo, precipue pri la koncernata 
  publikigaji.

  
=C2=A0

  
Ek 
  quo konsistos la specala numero di Progres=
o? Kad ol koncernos nur la vivo e 
  verkaro da Couturat? Til kande on pova=
s sendar artikli por ta numero? Ka la 
  nombro de pagini di singla artiklo=
 esas limitizita? 

  
=C2=A0

  
Kordi=
ale,

  
=C2=A0

  
Gon=C3=A7alo=


  



  
2014=
-07-08 14:01 GMT+01:00 Ga=C3=ABl Richardd gael.loic.richard@orange.fr [idolisto] <=
span dir=3D"ltr"><idolisto@yahoogroups.com>:


  

    
=C2=A0 
    

=
    

    

    

    

    

    
On publ=
ikigos oficala libro di la konfero kun la texti di la diskursi 
    kom art=
ikli. La publikigo eventos dum l=E2=80=99unesma parto di la yaro 2015.
    
La numero specala di Progreso pri Louis Couturat donos prizento =
di ta 
    konfero kun rezumo di singla diskurso. Publikigo anke cirkum la =
komenco di 
    2015.

    
La filmo di ta konfero esos videbla en=
 la situo di la =E2=80=9CEcole Normale 
    sup=C3=A9rieure=E2=80=9D. On di=
cis a me =E2=80=9Cbalde=E2=80=9D ma me ne savas exakte kande.

    =C2=A0

    
Saluti

    
Gael Richard

    

    

    
=C2=A0

    =C2=A0
=


  


=C2=A0
=




    

     

    
    








  










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Maxim kordial saluto, Idistaro! 
Ad omna fortunoza samideani, qui tre balde=
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Kara samideani:

Me deziras ad omnu partoprenonte en ica konfero joyoza e p=
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (37) 
  
  
  
 
 Fininte l’ Santa Supeo, Jesu esis l’unesma homo, qua ekiris la chambro. Me quik staceskis ed iris ad ilu. Jesu subridis a me, e repozigis amikale ilua dextra brakio sur mea shultri, dum ke ankor-foye jaluzeta Jan, qua esis sempre apud la Maestro, sizis ilua sinistra brakio e, tote senshame, depozis ol sur sua propra shultri. Lore, la Nazaretano questionis me: 
 
 --Kad omno en ordino, Partakael? Kad ula novajo?  
 
 --Omno en ordino, Maestro. Nula novajo --me respondis. 
 
  
 Kande ni atingis la gardeno Getsemani, Jesu haltigis la trupo, ma vokis Petro, Jakobo, Jan e me ipsa por ke ni akompanez il kelke plu fore, dum ke l’ ceter apostoli restis. Pose, il separis su mem de ni quar ed iris pregar... Plu tarde, kande il retrovenis a ni, omnu esis dormanta, ecepte me ipsa. Lore, Jesu invitis me, e nur me, sequar ilu... Il duris pregar Deo, e semblis a me esar advere pavorigita: “Patro: forigez de me ica kupo! Tamen, ke mea volo ne esez, ma nur Tua volo esez!”... Subite, me vidis aparar anjelo, e me spontane celis me... Me devas konfesar nun, ke me sempre timis renkontrar arkianjelo Gabriel, por la kazo ke lu havus ulo komunikenda a me... Gabriel esis granda specalisto pri anuncar tote ne-posibla gravideski, e do me timis mem lo yena: “Saluto, Partakael! Deo esas kun tu. E por ke tu ed omnu povez admirar Lua senlimita kapableso, yen ke tu gravideskos e parturos jemeli. Tu divenos l’unesma gravida viro.” E lore, me questionus: “Ma quale’ to esos posibla, se me ne mem konocis viro?” E Gabriel adjuntus: “Nule suciez! La Spirito di Deo eniros tu.” ... Fortunoze, nia cielal vizitinto esis ne arkianjelo Gabriel, ma nur anjelo basa-ranga e, pluse, lu ne venis por me, ma por Jesu; tamen, me tante nervozeskis, ke me ne saveskis pro quo nek por quo tal anjelo aparis, do voluntez ne questionar me prie!  
 
  
 Dum ke l’ tota apostolaro duris profunde dormar, me audacis  kelke ‘parlar’ kun Jesu: 
 
 --Pro quo tu tante pavoras? Ka pro tua balda morto? Ka tu ne kredas, ke tu rezurektos pos nur tri dii? Ka forsan tun pavorigas la intensa doloro fizika, quan tu subisos? Nu, tu certe savas quale eludar la doloro, ka ne? Ha! Semblas a me intelektar... Tu certe povus, ma forsan tu ne darfas ne sentar doloro, pro ke tu mustas sufrar quale komuna homo, ka ne? 
 
  
 Fakte, me facis nura monologo, nam Jesu respondis a me nulo, e duris pregar Deo, quankam plu serene kam antee.  
  
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (38) 
  
  
  
 
 Tamen, exter la gardeno Getsemani, esis certen apostolo, nome Judas Iskariot, qua esis nule dormanta, kande il eniris ol, dumnokte, akompanata dal Guardo dil Templo. Quoniam me reaktis kom unesmo, me ipsa quik proximeskis al grupo, e Judas, qua semblis a me subisar aparta nervozeso, salutis me e probis kisar me quale kustumale, ma me sucesis eludar ilua kiso ed exkuzar me pro mea katareto, dum ke la Guardo regardis me suspekteme, quaze me ipsa esus Jesu, la skopo. Fakte, Jesu plasizesis lore dorse di me, e kande me kelke diplasis me, Judas ilun vidis ed ilun iris salutar e kisar: 
 
  
 --Saluto, Maestro! Bela nokto, ka ne? 
 
 --Ho, Judas! Ka per kiso tu trahizas tua Maestro? --Jesu klamis e questionis. 
 
  
 Lore, yen ke voco autoritatoza imperis kaptar la Nazaretano, e la Guardo dil Templo esis obedionta ed ironta prenar ilu por forduktar ilu... Tamen, yen ke Petro, qua subite furieskis e semblis foleskir lor intelektar lo eventanta, desengainigis kurta espado, sorto di glavo, ed atakis un del vizitanti, ad ilqua tranchis orelo... Ta kompatinda viro, qua esis servisto dil Suprega Sacerdoto, komencis bramegar quale porko en bucheyo, ed il mem multe plu bramegabus, se Jesu ne haltigabus justa-tempe la manuo e la iraco di Petro, ilqua, maxim furioza, semblis volar durigar l’atako til obtener, adminime, la du oreli e la kaudo... Pose, la Maestro retropozis l’orelo ad olua proprietero, quaze ilta glutinabus ol magiale, dum ke ilca, qua subite restabis muta ed astonata, tushis e tushis sua orelo til plena konvinkeso... Tamen, quankam to mustis esar un plusa miraklo, qua produktesis koram ni omna, on itere imperis la Guardo dil Templo kaptar Jesu, ilqua povis evitar, admaxime, ke anke Petro e la ceteri esus arestata e forduktata. 
 
  
 Omno pasis tante rapide, ke kande nia noktal viziteri departabis kun la Maestro, me sucesis trovar nulu en la gardeno Getsemani, ne mem Petro, quan me vidabis apen kelka sekundi antee. Omnu desaparabis e fugabis... E me restis tote sola, pavorigita e celita en la gardeno Getsemani, ma nulu, nek amiko, nek enemiko, retrovenis al olivieraro. 
  
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From: Eberhard Scholz 

Kara prizanti omnaloka di nia linguo,

vere jus me retrovenis de nasko-urbo di Ido.
La renkontro esis ecelanta honorizo di nia pioniro Couturat.
D-ro G. Richard diligente exploris multa detali koncernant la 
vivo-stacioni di L.C.
Sustenanta de kunlukteri Loic e Jean il prezentis chanjoza programo.
Me embracis multa amiki konocata.
Volunte me memoros la important evento

Saluti de  Eberhard



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Kara samideani,

quik, pos la retroveno del Idorenkontro en Paris, me bonvenis kara amiko :
Jose M. R. Hernandez de Cordoba kun sua familio vizitas prezente Berlin.
La redaktero dil olima jurnalo "Torcho" por la Idista yunaro deziras 
renkontrar
plusa Idisti.
Hiere ni, le gespozi, lia amba filiuli e me, vizitis famoza loki cirkume 
la Pordego Brandenburgana.
Che la granda memoreyo por la ocidita Yudi, preske dum noktomezo, ni 
finis interesiva jorno.

Saluti amikala
Eberhard


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Pardonez me. I am trying to come back



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Hodie me recevis belega post-karto de Paris, signatita dal partoprenanti en=

la internaciona Ido-renkontro. La post-karto esas specale facita, kun
port=
reto de Couturat, la Ido-simbolo e plura fotografuri di konocata
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Kordiala danko ad omni!

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Hodie me recevis belega post-karto de Paris, signatit=
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ecale facita, kun portreto de Couturat, la Ido-simbolo e plura fotografuri =
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Kordiala danko ad=
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Kara amiki,

     Me sincere dankas la partoprenanti del Ido-renkontro 2014 pri la 
post-karto, quan li bonvole sendis a me.   Me esas privilejizita!

Itere dankas vu omni  Ralph.


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Yen mesajo quan me jus trovis en FB(=Facebook)-forumo.
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> Hodie, kande me venis heme, men vartas agreabla surprizo: postkarto de 
> Paris. Multa danko a la partoprenanti di IDO-renkontro!! Regretinde me 
> ne povis esar inter vi.
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Kara gesamideani!

Kelka dii ante nun finis l'internaciona Idokonfero 2014 honorizante 
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Specala danko meritas l'aranjeri dil programo (laborkunsidi, honorizo di 
Louis Couturat ye la tombeyo ed exkursi) od dil dormchambri, dil 
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Kara gesamideani!

Hiere, en venerdio, la 25ma di julio me povis renkontrar=
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berg.

Ni renkontris en posdimezo kelka hori pos lia arivo de Berlin, ube l=
i renkontris samideano Eberhard Scholz, avan la hotelo "Agneshof", ube Jose=
 kun familiani lojas dum tri dii.

Ni komencis nia migrado tra l'anciena ur=
bo di Nuernberg che la Chefa Merkato, ube ni eniris a la Kirko di Mulieri. =
L'expliko dil historio di ica kirko anke esas querebla en Esperanto. Survoy=
e ad ibe me atencigis a la domo "Eckstein", ube olim impresigis l'unesma ed=
ituro dil revuo "La Esperantisto".

Pose ni iris a la Hans-Sachs-Placo, ube=
 trovesas Hans-Sachs-monumento. 
Me anke povas montrar a li Esperanto-arbo,=
 qua esis fondita da la Esperanto-Grupo de Nuernberg en mayo 2013 e qua dep=
os lore kreskas ye la Hans-Sachs-placo.

Pose ni vidis la monumento dil Jud=
a sinagogo, qua destruktesis dum la progromi dil Nazisti.
Ni duris nia migr=
ado tra la talnomizita "Mikra Venecia" ambalatere dil rivero Pegnitz.
Ni pa=
sis la Karlsponto, la ponteto dil tormentisto e la ligna pordego. Sequis st=
radeto kun multa renovigita anciena domi, qua finas opozite a la domo, ube =
lojis un da la fondinti dil Esperanto-Grupo di Nuernberg, Leopold Einstein.=
 Apud la pordego trovesas memorplako, quan Jose volunte fotografis.
Pose ni=
 trairis la bela gardeno dil urbestro e juis la maxim bela regardo a l'anci=
ena urbo. 

Pro ke ni intertempe durstis ni sideskis a birgardeno kun agrea=
bla regardo a la kastelo pro drinkar ula.

Pose ni trapasis la pordego "Tie=
rgaertnertor" e vidis la kastelo dil norda latero, ube esas videbla kinangu=
la turmo.

Ni trapasis la strado "Sep Linei", ube stacas sep domi akurate u=
n dop l'altra e vidis la kasteleto dil familio Tucher.
Pro ke staciono dil =
l'unika automata metroo en Germania esis proxima ni uzis ica okaziono pro v=
ehar kun ol de la Rathenauplaco til la opereyo. Jose e sua spozino tre juis=
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Ni kurte regardis l'opereyo e pose trapasis la S=
trado dil Homal Yuri. Ibe trovesas stelei, sur qua trovesas la Homal Yuri e=
n la Germana e sur singla steleo ankore en un altra linguo e la Germana Nac=
ionala Muzeo.

Ye la fino di nia migrado tra Nuernberg ni regardis la Blank=
a Turmo e la karuselo di gespozi, qua esas interesiva puteo kun multa figur=
i.

Pose ni retrovenis a la hotelo "Agneshof" ed adiis.

Me povas konstatar=
, ke me travivis agreablega posdimezo e vespero kun agreabla familio.

L'ad=
juntita fotografuro montras Jose e lua familiani sur la Karlsponto.

Me dez=
iras a vi omna ankore agreabla semanofino.

Kordiale salutas vi omna

Frank=
 Kasper
Postfach 73 01 28
D- 90243 Nuernberg
Germania
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Kara gesamideani!

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Hiere, en venerdio, la 25ma di julio me povis renkontrar sa=
mideano Jose M. R. Hernandez kun spozino e du filii en mea hemurbo Nuernber=
g.

Ni renkontris en posdimezo kelka hori pos lia a=
rivo de Berlin, ube li renkontris samideano Eberhard Scholz, avan la hotelo=
 "Agneshof", ube Jose kun familiani lojas dum tri dii.

=

Ni komencis nia migrado tra l'anciena urbo di Nuernberg che la Chefa M=
erkato, ube ni eniris a la Kirko di Mulieri. L'expliko dil historio di ica =
kirko anke esas querebla en Esperanto. Survoye ad ibe me atencigis a la dom=
o "Eckstein", ube olim impresigis l'unesma edituro dil revuo "La Esperantis=
to".

Pose ni iris a la Hans-Sachs-Placo, ube trove=
sas Hans-Sachs-monumento. 
Me anke povas montrar a li Espera=
nto-arbo, qua esis fondita da la Esperanto-Grupo de Nuernberg en mayo 2013 =
e qua depos lore kreskas ye la Hans-Sachs-placo.

<=
div>Pose ni vidis la monumento dil Juda sinagogo, qua destruktesis dum la p=
rogromi dil Nazisti.
Ni duris nia migrado tra la talnomizita "Mik=
ra Venecia" ambalatere dil rivero Pegnitz.
Ni pasis la Karlsponto=
, la ponteto dil tormentisto e la ligna pordego. Sequis stradeto kun multa =
renovigita anciena domi, qua finas opozite a la domo, ube lojis un da la fo=
ndinti dil Esperanto-Grupo di Nuernberg, Leopold Einstein. Apud la pordego =
trovesas memorplako, quan Jose volunte fotografis.
Pose ni trairi=
s la bela gardeno dil urbestro e juis la maxim bela regardo a l'anciena urb=
o. 

Pro ke ni intertempe durstis n=
i sideskis a birgardeno kun agreabla regardo a la kastelo pro drinkar ula.<=
/div>

Pose ni trapasis la pordego "Tiergaertnertor" e vi=
dis la kastelo dil norda latero, ube esas videbla kinangula turmo.

Ni trapasis la strado "Sep Linei", ube stacas sep domi aku=
rate un dop l'altra e vidis la kasteleto dil familio Tucher.
Pro =
ke staciono dil l'unika automata metroo en Germania esis proxima ni uzis ic=
a okaziono pro vehar kun ol de la Rathenauplaco til la opereyo. Jose e sua =
spozino tre juis ludar duktero dil metroo.
Ni kurte regardis l'op=
ereyo e pose trapasis la Strado dil Homal Yuri. Ibe trovesas stelei, sur qu=
a trovesas la Homal Yuri en la Germana e sur singla steleo ankore en un alt=
ra linguo e la Germana Nacionala Muzeo.

Ye la fino=
 di nia migrado tra Nuernberg ni regardis la Blanka Turmo e la karuselo di =
gespozi, qua esas interesiva puteo kun multa figuri.

Pose ni retrovenis a la hotelo "Agneshof" ed adiis.

=

Me povas konstatar, ke me travivis agreablega posdimezo e vespero kun =
agreabla familio.

L'adjuntita fotografuro mo=
ntras Jose e lua familiani sur la Karlsponto.

Me d=
eziras a vi omna ankore agreabla semanofino.

Kordi=
ale salutas vi omna

Frank Kasper
Postfach 73 01 =
28
D- 90243 Nuernberg
Germania
tele=
fonilo: +49911 9904930
faxilo: +49911 477=
8130810
portebla tetefonilo: +49176 =
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Kara gesamideani!

Kun grandega plezuro me povas informar vi, ke me jus suc=
esis publikigar plu kam 60 fotografuri  facita dum l'internaciona Idokonfer=
o 2014 en Paris.
Ol trovesas ye l'interreta adreso

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Kun grandega plezuro me povas informar vi, ke me jus sucesis pub=
likigar plu kam 60 fotografuri  facita dum l'internaciona Idokonfero 2=
014 en Paris.
Ol trovesas ye l'interreta adreso
Maxim kordial salu=
to, Idistaro! 
Ad omna fortunoza samideani, qui tre balde partoprenos ni=
a Ido-Konfero, 
eventonta en l'urbo Paris (Francia), inter la 13ma e=
 la 20ma di julio 2014, 
me volunte deziras bona voyajo e sejorno, e maxim=
 sucesoza, profitoza,
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (39) 
  
  
  
 
 Tamen, quoniam me nule sucesis dormeskar, pro ke me esis tro ecitita, me tandem anke livis la gardeno ed eniris l’urbo por saveskar quo eventabis... Segun semblo, Jesu duktesabis koram la Suprega Sacerdoto, Kaifas, e la Saja Oldularo por eser inquestata. E segun semblo, Jesu, quan on questionis kad il esas la Mesio, la filio di Deo, e qua respondis “yes, me esas lo”, akuzesis pro grava blasfemo, batesis, insultesis ed ekirigesis del asembleyo kom advere danjeroza deliktinto, qua mustos permorte punisesar. 
 
  
 Kande me atingis la korto, qua esis apud la mencionita asembleyo, me vidis Petro, e me proximeskis ad il dum la preciza instanto, kande ulu semblis ilun rikonocar kom un del dicipuli dil blasfemero, quankam Petro quik negis lo e kelke diplasis su... Tamen, yen ke altru anke rikonocis il, ma Petro duris negar e duris marchetar... Kande triesma homo asertis ilun rikonocar, Petro negis mem savar qua Jesu esas, quo eventis dum la sama instanto, kande me arivis ibe, ed ulu anke rikonocis me kom akompananto dil Nazaretano, quon me nule negis, dum adjuntar, ke me esas stranjera sendito, qua komisesis skriptar ed informar pri omno relatanta Jesu de Nazaret... E Petro, *kuya nervozeso e pavoro esis evidenta, mem sen questionesir, audacis afirmar pri me ipsa, qua stacis avan ilu: 
 
 --Me anke ne savas qua ca sioro esas. Me nul-tempe vidabas ilu. Me jus arivis hike e savas nulo pri nulu. 
 
  
 E yen ke Simon Petro komencis fugetar del korto, dum ke Jesu koakte aparis en ol, e dum ke hanulo kanteskis e duris kantar... E lore, e nur lore, Petro rimemoris to quon Jesu predicabis ad ilu: “Ca-nokte, ante ke l’unesma hanulo kantos du-foye, tu tri-foye negabos, ke me esas tua Maestro”... Me volunte sequis Petro, quan me renkontris en vicina stradeto, e qua esis sola e ploreganta dum sencese frapar sua kapo kontre muro... Me probis ilun konsolacar, ma il singlutis ed asertis ne esar digna di Jesu, ne meritar ilu... Lore, me dicis a Petro, ke l’ Maestro certe pardonos ilua homal febleso; e pluse, me facis altro, nome kantar ad il ulo, quon il sempre prizegis askoltar de me: 
 
  
 “TU ES PETRUS, ET SUPER HANC PETRAM
 
 AEDIFICABO ECCLESIAM MEAM” 
 
 (TU ES PETRUS, ED SUR ICA PETRO 
 
 ME KONSTRUKTOS MEA EKLEZIO) 
  
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Kara gesamideani!

Hiere me skribis mesajo kun raporto pri la gasti di Hisp=
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Kara gesamideani!

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Hiere me skribis mesajo kun raporto pri la gasti di Hispania, qu=
i duminstante vizitas mea hemurbo Nuernberg .
En ica mesajo me ra=
portis, ke me anke povas montrar a li Esperanto-arbo, qua esis fondita=
 da la 
Esperanto-Grupo de Nuernberg en mayo 2013 e qua depos lore kreskas =
ye la
 Hans-Sachs-placo.
Me intencite uzis la vorto "Esperanto-ar=
bo", pro ke ico esas l'oficala nomo di ica arboro.
Me nur devabus=
 skribar "montrar a li arboro nomizita "Esperanto-arbo".

Me pregas via exkuzo.

Kordiale salutas vi o=
mna


Frank Kasper

Postfach 73 0=
1 28
D- 90243 Nuernberg
Germania
te=
lefonilo: +49911 9904930
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Kara samideani,

Me recevis bela postkarto de la Ido-konfero en Francia.
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Til balde,
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Kara sioro Martignon,

pos la cayara renkontro me devis exekutar divers aferi familial e 
ne-familiala. Dum tri dii, pos la renkontro, me renkontris ancien amiko, 
Jose M.R. Hernandez, kun familio, a qui me montris kelke Berlin.e la 
kunveneyo dil Idoamiki Berlin. Pro to la tarda mesajo.
Pro quo tre poka Idisti en Paris? Nu, la kauzi esas pluraspeca. Ma vu 
juste konjektis, ekonomiala krizo, chomado, timado di perdo di 
employado  e la pekunio-indijo ed .... .
Ma qua parolas volunte ja pri sua pekuniala stando?  Anke por me la tota 
sejorno en Paris esis sat chera. Me esas tre dankema, ke samideano 
sustenis me.
Ante la renkontro me ipsa invitis adminime 10 Idisti, exemple N.A.Glyn. 
Nulu de li venis.  Ma li certe deziris partoprenar  ...

Segun me la Parisana renkontro esis vere interesiva pro olua granda 
temo. Anke esis bone konociva la laudinda preparado ed exekutado dil 
organizinto d-ro Richard.
Dum nia promenadi tra la urbego e dum la longa voyajo vers Burgundia 
(omno por honorizar L.Couturat) ni trovis multa okazioni por 
interkombiar nia pensi e vidpunti.
Vu rimemorez nia konversi dum la voyajo vers kastelo Fontainbleau.  Do 
sat multa tempo por konversar, ka yes? Me volunte konversabus ankore plu 
multe, dum plusa dii.

Me bone komprenas, ke on ne prizas vizitar tombeyi. Ma ube esas respekto 
por un eminenta Franco, ka ne anke ibe ?

Me konjektas, vu opinionas la renkontro en Dessau (2012) vice Berlin. 
Yes, en Dessau d-ro Groth preparis ed exekutis anke bona renkontro.
Me ipsa deskovras nula difero inter amba programi. La diskursi da R. 
Pontnau e da d-ro G. Richard  en Paris esis tre interesiva.
Ma certe,  omno esas plu boniginda.

Me salutas kordiale vu.
Eberhard
------------------------------------------------------
Von: 'Jean Martignon' martignon.jean@wanadoo.fr [IdoCatalaOccitan] 

Datum: 23.07.2014 09:37
>
> Kara s-ro Scholz,
>
> Se me bone intelektas vua Berlinala renkontro esis plu interesiva kam 
> la Ido-renkontro en Paris. Malgre la interesivaji en ta urbo, la 
> Idisti ne semblis juar oli multe (forsan pro la tro varma vetero) e 
> vespere li regardis lia mikra komputatori prefere kam parolar pri 
> atraktiva temi en Ido.  Altralatere esis tro poka homi ed omni ja 
> interkonocis de longa tempo. La problemo esas : pro quo la Idisti ne 
> volis venar al Ido-renkontro ? Kad pro la ekonomiala krizo e la 
> pekunio-indijo ? O tote simple pro ke li ne plus interesesas multe pri 
> Ido ?
> La questiono pozesas.
>
> Kordiala saluti. JM :::-:::
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Eberhard Scholz eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de 
> [IdoCatalaOccitan]" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:48 AM
>
> > Kara samideani,
> >
> > quik, pos la retroveno del Idorenkontro en Paris, me bonvenis kara 
> amiko :
> > Jose M. R. Hernandez de Cordoba kun sua familio vizitas prezente Berlin.
> > La redaktero dil olima jurnalo "Torcho" por la Idista yunaro deziras
> > renkontrar
> > plusa Idisti.
> > Hiere ni, le gespozi, lia amba filiuli e me, vizitis famoza loki 
> cirkume
> > la Pordego Brandenburgana.
> > Che la granda memoreyo por la ocidita Yudi, preske dum noktomezo, ni
> > finis interesiva jorno.
> >
> > Saluti amikala
> > Eberhard


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Kara sioro Martignon,

      

      pos la cayara renkontro me devis exekutar divers aferi familial e
      ne-familiala. Dum tri dii, pos la renkontro, me renkontris ancien
      amiko, Jose M.R. Hernandez, kun familio, a qui me montris kelke
      Berlin.e la kunveneyo dil Idoamiki Berlin. Pro to la tarda mesajo.

      Pro quo tre poka Idisti en Paris? Nu, la kauzi esas pluraspeca. Ma
      vu juste konjektis, ekonomiala krizo,
        chomado, timado di perdo di employado  e la pekunio-indijo
      ed .... .

      Ma qua parolas volunte ja pri sua pekuniala stando?  Anke por me
      la tota sejorno en Paris esis sat chera. Me esas tre dankema, ke
      samideano sustenis me.

      Ante la renkontro me ipsa invitis adminime 10 Idisti, exemple
      N.A.Glyn. Nulu de li venis.  Ma li certe deziris partoprenar  ...

      

      Segun me la Parisana renkontro esis vere interesiva pro olua
      granda temo. Anke esis bone konociva la laudinda preparado ed
      exekutado dil organizinto d-ro Richard.

      Dum nia promenadi tra la urbego e dum la longa voyajo vers
      Burgundia (omno por honorizar L.Couturat) ni trovis multa okazioni
      por interkombiar nia pensi e vidpunti.

      Vu rimemorez nia konversi dum la voyajo vers kastelo
      Fontainbleau.  Do sat multa tempo por konversar, ka yes? Me
      volunte konversabus ankore plu multe, dum plusa dii.

      

      Me bone komprenas, ke on ne prizas vizitar tombeyi. Ma ube esas
      respekto por un eminenta Franco, ka ne anke ibe ?

      

      Me konjektas, vu opinionas la renkontro en Dessau (2012) vice
      Berlin. Yes, en Dessau d-ro Groth preparis ed exekutis anke bona
      renkontro.

      Me ipsa deskovras nula difero inter amba programi. La diskursi da
      R. Pontnau e da d-ro G. Richard  en Paris esis tre interesiva. 

      Ma certe,  omno esas plu boniginda.

      

      Me salutas kordiale vu.

      Eberhard

      ------------------------------------------------------

      Von: 'Jean Martignon' martignon.jean@wanadoo.fr [IdoCatalaOccitan]
      

      Datum: 23.07.2014 09:37

    

    

      
      
      
      
      Kara s-ro Scholz,

        

        Se me bone intelektas vua Berlinala renkontro esis plu
        interesiva kam la Ido-renkontro en Paris. Malgre la interesivaji
        en ta urbo, la Idisti ne semblis juar oli multe (forsan pro la
        tro varma vetero) e vespere li regardis lia mikra komputatori
        prefere kam parolar pri atraktiva temi en Ido.  Altralatere esis
        tro poka homi ed omni ja interkonocis de longa tempo. La
        problemo esas : pro quo la Idisti ne volis venar al
        Ido-renkontro ? Kad pro la ekonomiala krizo e la pekunio-indijo
        ? O tote simple pro ke li ne plus interesesas multe pri Ido ?

        La questiono pozesas.

        

        Kordiala saluti. JM :::-:::

        

      --------------------------------------------------

      From: "Eberhard Scholz eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de
      [IdoCatalaOccitan]" 

      Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:48 AM

      

      > Kara samideani,

      > 

      > quik, pos la retroveno del Idorenkontro en Paris, me bonvenis
      kara amiko :

      > Jose M. R. Hernandez de Cordoba kun sua familio vizitas
      prezente Berlin.

      > La redaktero dil olima jurnalo "Torcho" por la Idista yunaro
      deziras 

      > renkontrar

      > plusa Idisti.

      > Hiere ni, le gespozi, lia amba filiuli e me, vizitis famoza
      loki cirkume 

      > la Pordego Brandenburgana.

      > Che la granda memoreyo por la ocidita Yudi, preske dum
      noktomezo, ni 

      > finis interesiva jorno.

      > 

      > Saluti amikala

      > Eberhard

    

    

  


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Yen informi ek la Facebook.


Gerhard Hinze 
 

Gerhard Hinze 
 
	24. Juli 18:34

Me dankas pro la saluto-karto del partoprenanti dil ido-renkontro en Paris.
Nancy 
Lee Anderson 
 

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Hiere me recevis postkarto del Ido renkontro en Paris. Multa danki!

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Ye ca dio, 2 agosto...

1100. William 2ma, rejulo di Anglia, mortis. Il reg=
nabis depos la morto di sua patro William la Konquestero en 1087. William 2=
ma ocidesis dum ke il chasis en la rejala chaseyo la New Forest, frapita da=
 flecho de altru en la chaso-grupo. Esas ne klara ka la ocido esis acidento=
. La ocidanto Walter Tirel fugis a Francia. Henry, fratulo di William 2ma, =
deklaris sua yuro a la krono di Anglia, ed il esis kronizata ye 5 agosto, k=
om Henry 1ma.


1922. Inventisto Alexander Graham Bell mortis en Nova Skoti=
a, Kanada, evante 75 yari. Ilua maxim notenda inventuro esis la telefonilo,=
 por qua il grantesis patento en 1876. Il naskis in Edinburgh, Skotia, e de=
pos 1870 il rezidis en Kanada ed Usa. Il laboris multe por la bona stando d=
i surda personi. Il anke developis nova telegrafilo qua povis samtempe tran=
smisar plura mesaji, e diversa altra inventuri.

1939. Fizikisto Albert Ein=
stein signatis letro a la Prezidanto di Usa F D Roosevelt. Il avertis ke Ge=
rmany forsan esas kapabla krear atomala bombo, e=A0konsilis a la Prezidanto=
 hastigar Usana projeto egarde atomala armi.=A0La letro esis ideo di Hungar=
iana fizikisto=A0Le=F3 Szil=E1rd, qua rezidis en Usa; il plurafoye renkontr=
is Einstein, qua rezidis en Long Island, Nova-York, e li sorgoze kompozis l=
a letro. Granda projeto Usana por krear atomala armi komencis en decembro 1=
941. Quankam Einstein esis pacifista, il signatis la letro pro ke il il tim=
is ke Germany esos unika developanto di atomala bombo.

Kordiale DGW

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Ye ca dio, 2 agosto...

1100. William 2ma, rejulo di
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regnabis depos la morto di sua patro William la Konquestero en 1087. Willia=
m 2ma ocidesis dum ke il chasis en la rejala chaseyo la New Forest, frapita=
 da flecho de altru en la chaso-grupo. Esas ne klara ka la ocido esis acide=
nto. La ocidanto Walter Tirel fugis a Francia. Henry, fratulo di William 2m=
a, deklaris sua yuro a la krono di Anglia, ed il esis kronizata ye 5 agosto=
, kom Henry 1ma.

1922. Inventisto Alexander Graham Bell mor=
tis en Nova Skotia, Kanada, evante 75 yari. Ilua maxim notenda inventuro es=
is la telefonilo, por qua il grantesis patento en 1876. Il naskis in Edinbu=
rgh, Skotia, e depos 1870 il rezidis en Kanada ed Usa. Il laboris
 multe po=
r la bona
 stando di surda personi. Il anke developis nova telegrafilo qua =
povis samtempe transmisar plura mesaji, e diversa altra inventuri.

1939. Fizikisto Albert Einstein signatis letro a la Prezidanto di Usa F D=
 Roosevelt. Il avertis ke Germany forsan esas kapabla krear atomala bombo, =
e konsilis a la Prezidanto hastiga=
r Usana projeto egarde atomala armi. La letro esis ideo di Hungariana fizikisto Le=F3 Szil=E1rd, qua=
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nd, Nova-York, e li sorgoze kompozis la letro. Granda projeto Usana por kre=
ar atomala armi komencis en decembro 1941. Quankam Einstein
 esis pacifista=
, il signatis la letro pro ke il il timis ke Germany esos unika developanto=
 di atomala bombo.

Kordia=
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (40) 
  
  
  
 
 Me ne ja finabis konsolacar Petro, kande ulu altra, mem plu nervoza e tormentata kam ilca, preterpasis ni kuretante e klamegante sencese: 
 
 --On trompis me! On trompis me! E me trahizis la Maestro! 
 
 --He, Judas! Ad-ube tu iras? Venez hike! Haltez! --me dicis. 
 
 --No! No! Me livris la Maestro e me trahizis ilu! Me meritas nulo! --Judas klamis kun desespero. 
 
  
 Quankam Judas tre multe prizis la pekunio, segun semblo, il nule expektabis, ke Jesu kondamnesus quale vulgara deliktinto, ma tote kontree, nam il sempre fidabis al Maestro. Do, kande Judas vidis Jesu duktesar kom arestito, il semblis advere desespereskar, e ni ne plus rividis ilu. Plu tarde, ni saveskis, ke il suocidis per pendar su de sua arboro preferata. Kompatinda Judas Iskariot. 
 
  
 Ed arivinte an ica punto, me ne povas evitar rimemorar lo eventinta en la teatrajo “La Sufrado di Jesukristo”, quan me partoprenis olim en mea vilajo... (Maxim probable, kara lekteri, vi ne savas ke Judas anke rezurektis, e mem plu balde e plu rapide kam Jesu ipsa). La teatreyo di mea vilajo esis plenigita. La publiko asistis la spektaklo kun vera intereso e respektoza silenco... Tamen, yen ke arivis la maxim impresanta ceno, kande Judas, sole, pos pronuncar certena vorti, su pendis e restis ocilanta koram la publiko, til ke l’ kurteno klozesis, nam per tal ceno finis un del plura akti dil teatrajo... Subite, e tote ne-expektite, la publiko komencis aplaudegar e mem insiste klamegar en la Hispana: 
 
 “¡QUE LO REPITA! ¡QUE LO REPITA!” 
 
 (KE LU REPETEZ LO! KE LU REPETEZ LO!) 
 
 E yen ke, tante granda esis l’entuziasmo e l’insisto dil fervoroza asistintaro, ke, tandem, la kurteno riapertesis, e nia rivivigita Judas koaktesis repetar sua ceno ed itere pendar su e mortar. Ca-foye definitive. 
 
  
 Ne-dicinde, quankam l’aktoro, qua pleis la rolo di Judas, advere pasigis kordo cirkum sua kolo, la pezo di sua korpo suportesis da plusa kordo e harneso, quin il metabis sub sua tuniko, e qui maxim sekure subtenis il subaxele... Kontree, nia reala Judas Iskariot havis nula publiko, nul aplaudo, nula harneso e nula repeto, kande il rezolvis pendar su tilmorte. 
  
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 Saluti e til balde! 
  
 P A R T A K A 
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Kara samideani,

poka dii ante nun la Idoamiki Berlin vizitesis de siorino de Chili.
S-ino Lemke deziris kunprenar Ido-literaturo a Chili
Volunte ni exekutis elua deziro.
Sur la fotografuro esas videbla kelka broshuri.

Amikala saluti
Eberhard

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Kara gesamideani!

Kun grandega plezuro me povas informar l'Idistaro, ke me=
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tis ye la 18ma di julio 2014 kadre dil Idokonfero 2014 ye la tombo di Louis=
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Me esperas, ke me talmaniere kelke realigis la deziro =
da kelka Idisti, ke on trovez filmo pri l'Idokonfero 2014 ye l'interreto.

=
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http://www.ido.li/=
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Ol havas grandeso di 84 MB e duras pl=
u kam sep minuti.

Me deziras a vi omna agreabla spektado.

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s vi omna

Frank Kasper

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Kara gesamideani!

Kun grandega plezuro me povas informar l'Idistaro, ke=
 me hodie sucesis publikigar filmo pri la honorizo di Louis Couturat, qua e=
ventis ye la 18ma di julio 2014 kadre dil Idokonfero 2014 ye la tombo di Lo=
uis Couturat.
Me dankas a nia Germana samideano Guenter Schlemmin=
ger, qua esis tante jentila sendar a me  DVD-disko kun filmi kreita da=
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fero 2014 en Paris(Francia).
Me prenis la parto dil filmo kreita =
ye la tombo di Louis Couturat por la publikigo.

Me=
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trovez filmo pri l'Idokonfero 2014 ye l'interreto.

La filmo esas querebla ye la sequante interreta adreso:


Ol havas grandeso di 84 MB e duras plu kam sep minuti.

=

Me deziras a vi omna agreabla spektado.

Kordiale salutas vi omna

Frank Kasper
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3 agosto 1914 =E2=80=
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Ho Couturat, ta dio di morto respekte e dolore.<=
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Subject: Re: [idolisto] Filmo pri la honorizo di Louis Couturat publikigita
 ye la generala Ido-retsituo
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Kara samideano Kasper,

     Me tre dankas  vu pri la filmo quan vu sendis a la interreto.

     Ma desfortunoze me ne povis juar lu pro ke me informesis ke la 
adreso ne esas sekura, e me ne audacas facar pluso.

     Tamen ica filmo esos bonvenanta per multi de samideani.

     Gratuli a la kompilanti.

     Ralph






On 03/08/2014 15:41, Frank Kasper frank@kasper.ag [idolisto] wrote:
> Kara gesamideani!
>
> Kun grandega plezuro me povas informar l'Idistaro, ke me hodie sucesis publikigar filmo pri la honorizo di Louis Couturat, qua eventis ye la 18ma di julio 2014 kadre dil Idokonfero 2014 ye la tombo di Louis Couturat.
> Me dankas a nia Germana samideano Guenter Schlemminger, qua esis tante jentila sendar a me  DVD-disko kun filmi kreita da lu dum l'Idorenkontro 2008 en Tuebingen (Germania) e dum la recenta Idokonfero 2014 en Paris(Francia).
> Me prenis la parto dil filmo kreita ye la tombo di Louis Couturat por la publikigo.
>
> Me esperas, ke me talmaniere kelke realigis la deziro da kelka Idisti, ke on trovez filmo pri l'Idokonfero 2014 ye l'interreto.
>
> La filmo esas querebla ye la sequante interreta adreso:
>
> http://www.ido.li/filmoik14/couturathonorizo2014.mp4 .
>
> Ol havas grandeso di 84 MB e duras plu kam sep minuti.
>
> Me deziras a vi omna agreabla spektado.
>
> Kordiale salutas vi omna
>
> Frank Kasper
>
> Postfach 73 01 28
> D- 90243 Nuernberg
> Germania
> telefonilo: +49911 9904930
> faxilo: +49911 4778130810
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Ye ca dio, 9 agosto...

1896. Otto Lilienthal, pioniro di glit-flugado, kol=
izionis kun la tero dum flugado ed esis grave vundita. Il mortis ye la sequ=
anta dio, evante 48 yari. De yuneso il havis intereso pri la flugo di uceli=
. Il havis kariero kom injeniero; ye seman-fini il experimentis kun glit-fl=
ugili, lansante su de kolini proxim Berlin. Ca esforci esis savigata per ci=
encala revui; oli esis bone konocata da la fratuli Wright, qui agnoskis ca =
influo egarde lia experimenti pri aeroplani.

1902. Edward 7ma, rejulo di l=
a Unionita Rejio, esis kronizata en Westminster-abadeyo. Ilua matro, rejino=
 Victoria, mortis ye 22 januaro 1901. La kronizo-ceremonio eventabus ye 26 =
junio 1902; tamen Edward diagnozesis kom havanta apendicito ye 24 junio. Il=
 subisis operaco, quo ne esis kustumala ye ta periodo. Ol esis sucesoza, e =
la tardigita ceremonio eventis.

1976. La kosmosondilo Luna 24, la lasta de=
 la Luna-projeto di USSR, esis lansata. Ol esis, pos Luna 16 e Luna 20, la =
triesma sucesoza esforco automate querar sulo-specimeno de la luno. Ol send=
esis a la ne-explorita regiono Mare Crisium; Luna 23 atingabis ca regiono, =
ma olua borado-aparato ne funcionabis. Luna 24 atingis la surfaco ye 18 ago=
sto, prenis specimeno di la sulo per olua borilo, e retroarivis ye Tero ye =
23 agosto kun 170 gm de sulo.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 9 agosto...

1896. Otto Lilienthal, pioniro di glit-flugado, kolizionis k=
un la tero dum flugado ed esis grave vundita. Il mortis ye la sequanta dio,=
 evante 48 yari. De yuneso il havis intereso pri la flugo di uceli. Il havi=
s kariero kom injeniero; ye seman-fini il experimentis kun glit-flugili, la=
nsante su de kolini proxim Berlin. Ca esforci esis savigata per ciencala re=
vui; oli esis bone konocata da la fratuli Wright, qui agnoskis ca influo eg=
arde lia experimenti pri aeroplani.

1902. Edward 7ma, rejulo di la Unionita Rejio, esis kronizata en Westminst=
er-abadeyo. Ilua matro, rejino Victoria, mortis ye 22 januaro 1901. La kron=
izo-ceremonio eventabus ye 26 junio 1902; tamen Edward diagnozesis kom hava=
nta apendicito ye 24 junio. Il subisis operaco, quo ne esis kustumala ye ta=
 periodo. Ol esis sucesoza, e la tardigita ceremonio eventis.
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Kordiale =
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Por quo me ne povas acesar la video*?


Andre Ibaque



Em Quinta-feira, 7 =
de Agosto de 2014 6:13, "Ralph Midgley midgleyr@talktalk.net [idolisto]"  escreveu:
 


=C2=A0 
Kara samideano Kasper,

Me t=
re dankas  vu pri la filmo quan vu sendis a la interreto.

Ma desfortunoze =
me ne povis juar lu pro ke me informesis ke la 
adreso ne esas sekura, e me=
 ne audacas facar pluso.

Tamen ica filmo esos bonvenanta per multi de sami=
deani.

Gratuli a la kompilanti.

Ralph

On 03/08/2014 15:41, Frank Kasper =
frank@kasper.ag [idolisto] wrote:
> Kara gesamideani!
>
> Kun grandega plez=
uro me povas informar l'Idistaro, ke me hodie sucesis publikigar filmo pri =
la honorizo di Louis Couturat, qua eventis ye la 18ma di julio 2014 kadre d=
il Idokonfero 2014 ye la tombo di Louis Couturat.
> Me dankas a nia Germana=
 samideano Guenter Schlemminger, qua esis tante jentila sendar a me  DVD-di=
sko kun filmi kreita da lu dum l'Idorenkontro 2008 en Tuebingen (Germania) =
e dum la recenta Idokonfero 2014 en Paris(Francia).
> Me prenis la parto di=
l filmo kreita ye la tombo di Louis Couturat por la publikigo.
>
> Me esper=
as, ke me talmaniere kelke realigis la deziro da kelka Idisti, ke on trovez=
 filmo pri l'Idokonfero 2014 ye l'interreto.
>
> La filmo esas querebla ye =
la sequante interreta adreso:
>
> http://www.ido.li/filmoik14/couturathonor=
izo2014.mp4 .
>
> Ol havas grandeso di 84 MB e duras plu kam sep minuti.
>
=
> Me deziras a vi omna agreabla spektado.
>
> Kordiale salutas vi omna
>
> =
Frank Kasper
>
> Postfach 73 01 28
> D- 90243 Nuernberg
> Germania
> telefo=
nilo: +49911 9904930
> faxilo: +49911 4778130810
> portebla tetefonilo: +49=
176 45534248
> e-posto: frank@kasper.ag
>
>



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Por quo me ne povas acesar la video*?


A=
ndre Ibaque
 


 
 
   Em Quinta-feira, 7 de Agosto=
 de 2014 6:13, "Ralph Midgley midgleyr@talktalk.net [idolisto]"  escreveu:
  
  

 

 




  



    

      
      
      
Kara samideano Kasper,

=


Me tre dankas  vu pri la filmo quan vu sendis a la inte=
rreto.



Ma desfortunoze me ne povis j=
uar lu pro ke me informesis ke la 

adreso ne esas sekura=
, e me ne audacas facar pluso.



Tamen=
 ica filmo esos bonvenanta per multi de samideani.



Gratuli a la kompilanti.



Ralph



On 03/08/2014 15:41, Frank=
 Kasper frank@kasper.ag [idolisto] wrote:

> Kara gesa=
mideani!

>

> Kun grandega plezu=
ro me povas informar l'Idistaro, ke me hodie sucesis publikigar filmo pri l=
a honorizo di Louis Couturat, qua eventis ye la 18ma di julio 2014 kadre di=
l Idokonfero 2014 ye la tombo di Louis Couturat.

> Me=
 dankas a nia Germana samideano Guenter Schlemminger, qua esis tante jentil=
a sendar a me  DVD-disko kun filmi kreita da lu dum l'Idorenkontro 2008 en =
Tuebingen (Germania) e dum la recenta Idokonfero 2014 en Paris(Francia).
> Me prenis la parto dil filmo kreita ye la tombo di Lo=
uis Couturat por la publikigo.

>

&=
gt; Me esperas, ke me talmaniere kelke realigis la deziro da kelka Idisti, =
ke on trovez filmo pri l'Idokonfero 2014 ye l'interreto.
=

>

> La filmo esas querebla ye la sequante interre=
ta adreso:

>

> http://www.ido.l=
i/filmoik14/couturathonorizo2014.mp4 .

>

> Ol havas grandeso di 84 MB e duras plu kam sep minuti.

>

> Me deziras a vi omna agreabla spekt=
ado.

>

> Kordiale salutas vi om=
na

>

> Frank Kasper

>

> Postfach 73 01 28

&=
gt; D- 90243 Nuernberg

> Germania

=
> telefonilo: +49911 9904930

> faxilo: +49911 4778=
130810

> portebla tetefonilo: +49176 45534248

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (41) 
  
  
  
 
 E yen ke Jesu sendesis a Poncio Pilato, ilqua sendigis il a Herodes, ilqua retrosendigis il a Pilato, pro ke amba autoritatozi trovis nul grava motivo por kondamnar la Nazaretano a morto-puniso, nam li konsideris ilca kom sorto di pacema e kompatinda folo, *kuya unika delikto o krimino esus kredar, ke il ipsa es la filio di Deo. Tamen, la Suprega Sacerdoto e la cetera membri dil Saja Oldularo insistis koram Pilato (ilqua probis liberigar Jesu mem per publike konsultar la populo hebrea), por ke tal blasfemeracho ne nur ne liberigesez, ma mem krucagesez. Lore, Poncio Pilato, qua duris pensar, ke Jesu esis ne-kulpoza, cedis al voco dil populo, qua manipulesis da sua chefaro, ed imperis krucagar il che l’ Monteto Kalvario, la loko kustumal. 
 
 --Me trovas nula kulpo che ica viro, ma ni agez segun via deziro! Me ne responsas pri ilua sango. Me lavas mea manui pri omno relatanta ica proceso --proklamis la Romanestro. 
 
  
 Plu tarde, Jesu charjesis per pezoza ligno-bloko transversa, qua ligesis sur ilua shultri, e koaktesis ekirar la strado survoye al vicina Monteto Kalvario, ube il tandem esus krucagata tilmorte... Dum trairar la streta stradi, Jesu, qua semblis aparte febligita, avancis kun difikulteso e mem falis adminime tri-foye, quankam il quik obligesis ristacar e durar marchar... La populo esis omnube, e Jesu insultesis da uli e laudesis e benedikesis da altri... Profitante mea privilijezita vido-kapableso, me sucesis kaptar la kurta renkontro di Jesu kun ilua matro, ilua kelka vorti a plura mulieri amika, e mem l’instanto, kande un plusa muliero, nome Veronika, probis vishar la sudoro e la sango di ilua vizajo per sua kaptuko, quan el proximigis al Nazaretano; tamen, se vi permisas a me uzar expresuro koncernanta tauro-kombato, me dicos a vi, ke to esis admaxime “mi-veroniko”, nam la muliero quik haltigesis, e Jesu pedo-frapesis por ke il ristaceskez e durez marchar... E yen ke ulu inter la publiko, nome Simon di Cirene, koaktesis dal Romani helpar Jesu, qua ne plus povis pedirar kun la pezoza ligno-bloko surshultre... Meze dil tragedio, semblis a me komika l’atitudo dal mencionita Simon, qua ne cesis informar omni, quin ni renkontris survoye al Kalvario:  
 
 --Me nur helpas ulu, qua ne povas charjar ica kruco, ma me esas nula kriminero, ve! Voluntez ne insultar me! 
 
  
 E tale, ni atingis la Monteto Kalvario, e la soldati Romana, qui esis ibe e ne saveskabis, ke Simon di Cirene esis nura helpero, sizis il e preske komencis ilun krucagar, pos ke ilca, maxim kandide, dicis al soldati: 
 
 --Ube me depozas ica ligno-bloko? Me devas quik departar. 
 
  
 Fortunoze, omno rapide klarigesis, e la koaktita helpero povis advere departar kom sana e sekura. 
  
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Hola Gonçalo, Hans e cetera samideani! 
 Semblas a me, ke nia nova Ido-lernanto ne ja esas membro dil forumo Ido-listo, e me timas ke, forsan, il ne mem lektas nia mesaji hike. Tamen, esus bona, ke ti de vi, qui havas konto che
YouTube, povus skribar ibe ula komento pri ilua unesma video en Ido (quale ja facis l'amiko Kiran), ed invitar ilu partoprenar nia Ido-forumi. Il esas Vietnamano, qua nun-tempe rezidas en
Usa (Houston, Texas). Ultre YouTube, vi anke trovos ilu che Facebook e che Parolez Ido! Maxim kordial saluto, kolegaro! 
  
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Ye ca dio, 16 agosto...

1858. La unesma komuniki per telegrafo eventis int=
er Europa e Nord-Amerika. La inicianto di la projeto di la transatlantika k=
ablo esis Usana entraprezisto Cyrus West Field. La pozado di la kablo, de I=
rlando a Nov-Lando, esis kompletigata ye 5 agosto, pos plura falii kande la=
 kablo esis ruptata. La unesma oficala mesajo ye ca dio esis gratulo-mesajo=
 de Rejina Victoria di Unionita Rejio ad Usana prezidanto James Buchanan. L=
a kablo faliis pos kelka semani; pos plusa kablo-pozado, duranta ligo esis =
efektigata en 1866.

1887. En Paris, la muzikisto Nadia Boulanger naskis. E=
l esis fratino di la kompozisto Lili Boulanger, qua mortis en 1918. Lia pat=
ro esis docisto ye la Konservatorio di Paris; Nadia studiis ibe ye frua evo=
. El esas maxim bone konocata kom docisto di multa famoza muzikisti, inkluz=
anta Aaron Copland, Elliott Carter, Dinu Lipatti, Igor Markevitch, Daniel B=
arenboim ed =C1stor Piazzolla. El mortis en 1979.

1896. Oro deskovresis en=
 la regiono Klondike, en Yukon en nord-westa Kanada. Ye la sequanta yaro, i=
nformeso pri to atingis Seattle e San Francisco, ed iniciis amaso-iro di ho=
mi a Klondike. La voyo tra montoza tereno esis desfacila, e multi perisis d=
um la voyajo. Cirkume 30000 homi arivis, e cirkume 4000 trovis oro. La serc=
ho por oro duris til 1899, kande oro deskovresos en Alaska.

Kordiale DGW

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Ye ca dio, 16 agosto...

1858. La unesma komuniki per teleg=
rafo eventis inter Europa e Nord-Amerika. La inicianto di la projeto di la =
transatlantika kablo esis Usana entraprezisto Cyrus West Field. La pozado d=
i la kablo, de Irlando a Nov-Lando, esis kompletigata ye 5 agosto, pos plur=
a falii kande la kablo esis ruptata. La unesma oficala mesajo ye ca dio esi=
s gratulo-mesajo de Rejina Victoria di Unionita Rejio ad Usana prezidanto J=
ames Buchanan. La kablo faliis pos kelka semani; pos plusa kablo-pozado, du=
ranta ligo esis efektigata en 1866.

1887. En Paris, la muzik=
isto Nadia Boulanger naskis. El esis
 fratino di la kompozisto Lili Boulang=
er, qua mortis en 1918. Lia patro esis docisto ye la Konservatorio di Paris=
; Nadia studiis ibe ye frua evo. El esas maxim bone konocata kom docisto di=
 multa famoza muzikisti, inkluzanta Aaron Copland, Elliott Carter, Dinu Lip=
atti, Igor Markevitch, Daniel Barenboim ed =C1stor Piazzolla. El mortis en =
1979.

1896. Oro deskovresis en la regiono
 Klondike, en Yuk=
on en nord-westa Kanada. Ye la sequanta yaro, informeso pri to atingis Seat=
tle e San Francisco, ed iniciis amaso-iro di homi a Klondike. La voyo tra m=
ontoza tereno esis desfacila, e multi perisis dum la voyajo. Cirkume 30000 =
homi arivis, e cirkume 4000 trovis oro. La sercho por oro duris til 1899, k=
ande oro deskovresos en Alaska.

Kordiale DGW

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (42) 
  
  
  
 
 E lore, paro de soldati sizis Jesu ed arachis maxim violentoze ilua vesti, tale ke il restis mi-nuda, kun nura kalsono Inri-stila, ed on ligis e klovagis il ankruce... Me preferas ne raportar detaloze pri l’enorma doloro e sufrado, quin tal krucago kunportis al Nazaretano, pro ke vi ya povas perfekte imaginar prie. E pro ke me esas nula sadisto. 
 
  
 Ibe esis le tri Mariya: la Santa Virgino Mariya, Mariya di Kleofas e Mariya de Magdala. Ed ibe anke esis du plusa Mariya, nome Jan e me ipsa, qui metabis mulieral manteli, sub olqui ni celis nia vizaji, por pover kelke proximeskar al kruco senprobleme. La preske tota cetera apostolaro desaparabis e su celabis, pro ke li advere timis arestesor. 
 
  
 Ta dimezo esis aparte obskura, e la vetero semblis minacar ni omna per ulo konjekteble desquietiganta... De tempo a tempo, Jesu ‘parlis’ sive a ni, sive ad ilua Patro, qua esas en la Cielo... “Patro: pardonez a li, nam li ne koncias quon li agas!”... “Elí! Elí! Lamà sabaktaní?” (Deo mea! Deo mea! Pro quo Tu abandonabas me?)... E lore, il dicis a sua matro ed a travestiita Jan, quan il ya deskovrabis sub ilua vesto feminal: “Matro: ibe esas tua filiino. Filiino di Zebedeo: ibe esas tua matro.”... E pose, Jesu dicis a me: “Partaka, karino: tre bela tua nova mantelo.” (To esis l’unesma ed ultima foyo, kande l’ Maestro nomis me quale mea amiki: Partaka, vice Partakael)... E plu tarde: “Me durstas”... “Omno kompletigesis”... “Patro: a Tu me konfidas mea spirito.”
 
  
 E Jesu mortis. E soldato Romana klamis: “Ka ta viro ja mortabas? Ho! Quante febla ta kerlacho esis!”... E lore, komencis granda tempesto e la tero tremeskis. E soldato klovagis enorma lanco en la korpo di Jesu, oltqua mustis atingar e mem transirar ilua kordio. E del korpo di Kristo ekiris nula sango, ma nur sorto di aquo rozea, qua memorigis da me olta ekirinta del kapo di mea avino, kande elua kadavro eskapis del du vira funeristi, qui transportis el, e bruske falis sur la harda sulo. Ho, yes! Lore, tala ceno tante impresis me, ke me mem nomizis la nova nuanco di koloro: “avinal rozea”... E ni mustis disirar pro la tempesto.  
  
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Me lasas hike me traduko dil komenco dil verko da Julius Cezaro "Pri la Mil=
ito di Gaul"

I. Omna Gaul esas dividita en tri parti: una qua habitas la B=
elgii, atra l'Aquitani, la triesma ti qui en lia linguo nomesas Kelti ed en=
 nia Gauli. Ti omni dissimilas inter li en linguo, kostumi e legi. Al Gauli=
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a balnas Hispania.


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ie lutas kontre la Germani, sive en lia frontieri, sive invadanta ita di li=
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Yen mea tradukuro, direte del Latina:

I. La tota Gallia esas dividita en t=
ri parti: l=E2=80=99unesman habitas la Belgi,
la duesman l=E2=80=99Aquitani=
, la triesman ti qui nomesas Kelti en sua linguo e
Galli en nia. Ci omna in=
terdiferas per linguo, kostumi e legi. La Gallin
separas del Aquitani la fl=
uvio Garumna, del Belgi la fluvii Matrona e
Sequana. Le maxim forta de ci o=
mna esas la Belgi, nam li maxime distas del
kulturo e civilizuro di nia Pro=
vinco; e maxim rare venas a li komercisti e
vari qui povus febligar lia kur=
ajo; li esas vicini dil Germani, qui habitas
trans Rheno, e konstante milit=
as kontre ici. Pro to la Helvetii per sua
kurajo superesas la cetera Galli,=
 nam li preske omnadie kombatas la
Germani, sive dum ekpulsar ici de sua te=
ritorio, sive dum invadar lia
teritorio. La mencionita parto habitata dal G=
alli komencas an Rheno,
limitizesas da Garumna, dal Oceano e dal teritorio =
dil Belgi; ol extensesas
anke an la teritorio dil Sequani e dil Helvetii ti=
l Rheno, inklinante su al
nordo. La teritorio dil Belgi komencas an la last=
a limiti di Gallia,
extensesas til la infra parto di Rheno, an nordesto. Aq=
uitania extensesas
de la fluvio Garumna til Pirenei e ta parto dil Oceano q=
ua balnas Hispania,
an nordwesto.

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2014-08-19 16:10 GM=
T+01:00 Chabi Chabi chabi1991@yahoo.es [linguolisto] <
linguolisto@yahoogro=
ups.com>:

>
>
> Me lasas hike me traduko dil komenco dil verko da Julius C=
ezaro "Pri la
> Milito di Gaul"
>
> I. Omna Gaul esas dividita en tri parti=
: una qua habitas la Belgii, atra
> l'Aquitani, la triesma ti qui en lia li=
nguo nomesas Kelti ed en nia Gauli.
> Ti omni dissimilas inter li en linguo=
, kostumi e legi. Al Gauli separas di
> l'Aquitani la fluvo Garonne, dil Be=
lgii la Marne e la Sena. La maxim brava
> di omni esas la Belgii, nam li ha=
bitas tre longe di edukado di nia
> provinco; e tre rare arivis ibe la kome=
rcisti kun kozi por etiolar lia
> kurajo; e pro esar vicini al Germani, qui=
 habitas ultra le Rhin, li esas
> konstante militante kontre li. Ica esas l=
a kauzo pro ke la Herveti vinkas
> en valoro a l'altra Gauli, nam preske om=
nadie lutas kontre la Germani, sive
> en lia frontieri, sive invadanta ita =
di lia vicini. La parto quon ni
> dicabas ke la Gauli okupas komencas en la=
 Rhone, limitas kun la Garonne, la
> Oceano e la lando dil Belgii; kun la d=
il Sequani e la Helvetii frolas la
> Rhin, inklinanta al Nordo. La Belgii p=
renas lua komenco la la lasta limiti
> dil Gaul, til la Basa Rhin, rigardan=
ta al nordo ed a l'esto. Aquitania
> extensas su inter esto e nordo pro la =
Garonne til la Pirinei, e ta parto de
> l'Oceano qua balnas Hispania.
>
> S=
e ol havas erori voluntez korektar li.
>
> Til!
>
>  
>

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Yen mea tradukuro, direte del Latina:

<=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:'Times New Ro=
man',serif">I. La tota Gallia esas dividita en tri parti: l=E2=80=99une=
sman
habitas la Belgi, la duesman l=E2=80=99Aquitani, la triesman ti qui no=
mesas Kelti en sua
linguo e Galli en nia. Ci omna interdiferas per linguo, =
kostumi e legi. La
Gallin separas del Aquitani la fluvio Garumna, del Belgi=
 la fluvii Matrona e Sequana.
Le maxim forta de ci omna esas la Belgi, nam =
li maxime distas del kulturo e
civilizuro di nia Provinco; e maxim rare ven=
as a li komercisti e vari qui povus
febligar lia kurajo; li esas vicini dil=
 Germani, qui habitas trans Rheno, e konstante
militas kontre ici. Pro to l=
a Helvetii per sua kurajo superesas la cetera Galli,
nam li preske omnadie =
kombatas la Germani, sive dum ekpulsar ici de sua teritorio,
sive dum invad=
ar lia teritorio. La mencionita parto habitata dal Galli komencas
an Rheno,=
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extensesa=
s anke an la teritorio dil Sequani e dil Helvetii til Rheno, inklinante
su =
al nordo. La teritorio dil Belgi komencas an la lasta limiti di Gallia, ext=
ensesas
til la infra parto di Rheno, an nordesto. Aquitania extensesas de l=
a fluvio
Garumna til Pirenei e ta parto dil Oceano qua balnas Hispania, an =
nordwesto.



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En mea antea tradukuro on lektez "kombatas kontre la Germani" vice
"kombata=
s la Germani".


2014-08-19 17:30 GMT+01:00 Gon=C3=A7alo Neves :

> Yen mea tradukuro, direte del Latina:
>
> I. La tota Gallia es=
as dividita en tri parti: l=E2=80=99unesman habitas la Belgi,
> la duesman =
l=E2=80=99Aquitani, la triesman ti qui nomesas Kelti en sua linguo e
> Gall=
i en nia. Ci omna interdiferas per linguo, kostumi e legi. La Gallin
> sepa=
ras del Aquitani la fluvio Garumna, del Belgi la fluvii Matrona e
> Sequana=
. Le maxim forta de ci omna esas la Belgi, nam li maxime distas del
> kultu=
ro e civilizuro di nia Provinco; e maxim rare venas a li komercisti e
> var=
i qui povus febligar lia kurajo; li esas vicini dil Germani, qui habitas
> =
trans Rheno, e konstante militas kontre ici. Pro to la Helvetii per sua
> k=
urajo superesas la cetera Galli, nam li preske omnadie kombatas la
> German=
i, sive dum ekpulsar ici de sua teritorio, sive dum invadar lia
> teritorio=
. La mencionita parto habitata dal Galli komencas an Rheno,
> limitizesas d=
a Garumna, dal Oceano e dal teritorio dil Belgi; ol extensesas
> anke an la=
 teritorio dil Sequani e dil Helvetii til Rheno, inklinante su al
> nordo. =
La teritorio dil Belgi komencas an la lasta limiti di Gallia,
> extensesas =
til la infra parto di Rheno, an nordesto. Aquitania extensesas
> de la fluv=
io Garumna til Pirenei e ta parto dil Oceano qua balnas Hispania,
> an nord=
westo.
>
> Gon=C3=A7alo Neves
>
>
> 2014-08-19 16:10 GMT+01:00 Chabi Chabi =
chabi1991@yahoo.es [linguolisto] <
> linguolisto@yahoogroups.com>:
>
>
>>
>=
> Me lasas hike me traduko dil komenco dil verko da Julius Cezaro "Pri la
>=
> Milito di Gaul"
>>
>> I. Omna Gaul esas dividita en tri parti: una qua ha=
bitas la Belgii, atra
>> l'Aquitani, la triesma ti qui en lia linguo nomesa=
s Kelti ed en nia Gauli.
>> Ti omni dissimilas inter li en linguo, kostumi =
e legi. Al Gauli separas di
>> l'Aquitani la fluvo Garonne, dil Belgii la M=
arne e la Sena. La maxim brava
>> di omni esas la Belgii, nam li habitas tr=
e longe di edukado di nia
>> provinco; e tre rare arivis ibe la komercisti =
kun kozi por etiolar lia
>> kurajo; e pro esar vicini al Germani, qui habit=
as ultra le Rhin, li esas
>> konstante militante kontre li. Ica esas la kau=
zo pro ke la Herveti vinkas
>> en valoro a l'altra Gauli, nam preske omnadi=
e lutas kontre la Germani, sive
>> en lia frontieri, sive invadanta ita di =
lia vicini. La parto quon ni
>> dicabas ke la Gauli okupas komencas en la R=
hone, limitas kun la Garonne, la
>> Oceano e la lando dil Belgii; kun la di=
l Sequani e la Helvetii frolas la
>> Rhin, inklinanta al Nordo. La Belgii p=
renas lua komenco la la lasta limiti
>> dil Gaul, til la Basa Rhin, rigarda=
nta al nordo ed a l'esto. Aquitania
>> extensas su inter esto e nordo pro l=
a Garonne til la Pirinei, e ta parto de
>> l'Oceano qua balnas Hispania.
>>=

>> Se ol havas erori voluntez korektar li.
>>
>> Til!
>>
>>  
>>
>
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En mea antea tradukuro on lektez "kombatas kontre la =
Germani" vice "kombatas la Germani".


2014-08-19 17:30 GMT+01:00 Gon=
=C3=A7alo Neves <gneves64@gmail.com>:


Yen mea tradukuro, direte del Latina:
I. La tota Gallia esas dividita en tri parti:=
 l=E2=80=99unesman
habitas la Belgi, la duesman l=E2=80=99Aquitani, la trie=
sman ti qui nomesas Kelti en sua
linguo e Galli en nia. Ci omna interdifera=
s per linguo, kostumi e legi. La
Gallin separas del Aquitani la fluvio Garu=
mna, del Belgi la fluvii Matrona e Sequana.
Le maxim forta de ci omna esas =
la Belgi, nam li maxime distas del kulturo e
civilizuro di nia Provinco; e =
maxim rare venas a li komercisti e vari qui povus
febligar lia kurajo; li e=
sas vicini dil Germani, qui habitas trans Rheno, e konstante
militas kontre=
 ici. Pro to la Helvetii per sua kurajo superesas la cetera Galli,
nam li p=
reske omnadie kombatas la Germani, sive dum ekpulsar ici de sua teritorio,
=
sive dum invadar lia teritorio. La mencionita parto habitata dal Galli kome=
ncas
an Rheno, limitizesas da Garumna, dal Oceano e dal teritorio dil Belgi=
; ol
extensesas anke an la teritorio dil Sequani e dil Helvetii til Rheno, =
inklinante
su al nordo. La teritorio dil Belgi komencas an la lasta limiti =
di Gallia, extensesas
til la infra parto di Rheno, an nordesto. Aquitania e=
xtensesas de la fluvio
Garumna til Pirenei e ta parto dil Oceano qua balnas=
 Hispania, an nordwesto.

<=
/div>
Gon=C3=A7alo Neves





2014-08-19 16:10 GMT+0=
1:00 Chabi Chabi ch=
abi1991@yahoo.es [linguolisto] <linguolisto@yahoogroups.com<=
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l"






I. Omna Gaul esass dividita en tri parti: una qua hab=
itas la Belgii, atra l'Aquitani, la triesma ti qui en lia linguo nomesa=
s Kelti ed en nia Gauli. Ti omni dissimilas inter li en linguo, kostumi e l=
egi. Al Gauli separas di l'Aquitani la fluvo Garonne, dil Belgii
 la Ma=
rne e la Sena. La maxim brava di omni esas la Belgii, nam li habitas tre lo=
nge di edukado di nia provinco; e tre rare arivis ibe la komercisti kun koz=
i por etiolar lia kurajo; e pro esar vicini al Germani, qui habitas ultra l=
e Rhin, li esas konstante militante kontre li. Ica esas la kauzo pro ke la =
Herveti vinkas en valoro a l'altra Gauli, nam preske omnadie lutas kont=
re la Germani, sive en lia frontieri, sive invadanta ita di lia vicini. La =
parto quon ni dicabas ke la Gauli okupas komencas en la Rhone, limitas kun =
la Garonne, la Oceano e la lando dil Belgii; kun la dil Sequani e la Helvet=
ii frolas la Rhin, inklinanta al Nordo. La Belgii prenas lua komenco la la =
lasta limiti dil Gaul, til la Basa Rhin, rigardanta al nordo ed a l'est=
o. Aquitania extensas su inter esto e nordo pro la Garonne til la Pirinei, =
e ta parto de l'Oceano qua balnas Hispania.




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Yes, evidente tu esas justa: "kustumi e legi" (Latine: "institutis,
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Yes, evidente tu esas justa: "kustumi e legi" (L=
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Danko ad omni pro via korektiguri.


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Yes, evidente tu esas justa: "kustumi=
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00 qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] :

 
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Danko ad omni pro via korektiguri.
 

 
  
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Hike me prizentas mea traduko dil komenco dil Teogonio da Hesiodos

Komence=
z nia kanto kun la Helikonida Muzi, qui habitas la granda e divina monto di=
 Helikon. Kun lia delikata pedi dansas cirkum fonto di violea reflexi ed en=
 altaro di tre povoza Kronion. Pose lavar lia milda pelo en l'aqui di Perme=
ssos, en la Fonto di Kavalo od en divina Olmeo, formacas bela e delicioza k=
ori en la somito di Helikon e movas vivace lia pedi. De-ibe departanta, vol=
vanta en densa nebulo marchas velizata da nokto, lansanta a vento lia marve=
loza voco, kun himni a Zeus, l'egido-portanto, a rejinala Here qua marchas =
en orea sandali, a filiino da Zeus, l'egido-portanto, Atenea di blanka okul=
i, a Febo Apollon ed ad flechisto Artemis, a Posidon qua sukusas la Tero, a=
 veneracinda Temis, ad Afrodite di =C2=A0viva okuli, a Hebe di =C2=A0orea k=
rono, a bela Dione, ad Eos, ad alta Helios ed a brilanta Selen, a Leto, a J=
apetos, a Kornos di =C2=A0insidiema mento, a Gea, a spacoza Oceano, a nigra=
 Nokto ed a sakra raso restanta di nemortiva dei. Un dio montris a
 Hesiodo=
s bela kanto dum ke pastorabis lia mutoni en la pedi di divina Helikon. Ica=
 mesajon unesme dicis a me la deini, l'Olimpiala Muzi, filiini di Zeus, l'e=
gido-portanto: "Pastori dil agro, trist aferi shamala, simpla, ventri! Ni s=
avas dicar multa mentii kun aparo di vero; e ni savas, kande ni volas, prok=
lamar la vero. Tale dicis la bona-parolata filiini di povoza Zeus. E donaci=
s a me ceptro pos taliar florala lauro. Infuzis a me divina voco por celebr=
ar la futuro e la pasinto e demandis me laudar kun himni la raso di felica =
Nemortiva e kantar ad eli en la komenco ed en la fino. Ma, pro quo me deten=
as pri querko o petro?



El , Chabi Chabi  escribi=C3=
=B3:
 


Danko ad omni pro via korektiguri.


El Mi=C3=A9rcoles 20 de agost=
o de 2014 12:32, "Gon=C3=A7alo Neves gneves64@gmail.com [idolisto]"  escribi=C3=B3:
 


=C2=A0 
Yes, evidente tu esas justa:=
 "kustumi e legi" (Latine: "institutis, legibus"). Danko!



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2 GMT+01:00 qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] :
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>=C2=A0 
>Kara Gon=C3=A7alo: 
>Ka ne esus plu justa "kustumi e legi" (vi=
ce "kostumi e legi"), mem se li anke interdiferabus perkostume? Danko pro t=
ua tradukuro, e maxim kordial saluto! 
>=C2=A0
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Hike m=
e prizentas mea traduko dil komenco dil Teogonio da Hesiodos

Komen=
cez nia kanto kun la
 Helikonida Muzi, qui habitas la granda e divina monto=
 di Helikon. Kun lia delikata pedi dansas cirkum fonto di violea reflexi ed=
 en altaro di tre povoza Kronion. Pose lavar lia milda pelo en l'aqui di Pe=
rmessos, en la Fonto di Kavalo od en divina Olmeo, formacas bela e delicioz=
a kori en la somito di Helikon e movas vivace lia pedi. De-ibe departanta, =
volvanta en densa nebulo marchas velizata da nokto, lansanta a vento lia ma=
rveloza voco, kun himni a Zeus, l'egido-portanto, a rejinala Here qua march=
as en orea sandali, a filiino da Zeus, l'egido-portanto, Atenea di blanka o=
kuli, a Febo Apollon ed ad flechisto Artemis, a Posidon qua sukusas la Tero=
, a veneracinda Temis, ad Afrodite di  viva okuli, a Hebe di  ore=
a krono, a bela Dione, ad Eos, ad alta Helios ed a brilanta Selen, a Leto, =
a Japetos, a Kornos di  insidiema mento, a Gea, a spacoza Oceano, a ni=
gra Nokto ed a sakra raso restanta di nemortiva dei. Un dio montris a Hesio=
dos bela kanto
 dum ke pastorabis lia mutoni en la pedi di divina Helikon. =
Ica mesajon unesme dicis a me la deini, l'Olimpiala Muzi, filiini di Zeus, =
l'egido-portanto: "Pastori dil agro, trist aferi shamala, simpla, ventri! N=
i savas dicar multa mentii kun aparo di vero; e ni savas, kande ni volas, p=
roklamar la vero. Tale dicis la bona-parolata filiini di povoza Zeus. E don=
acis a me ceptro pos taliar florala lauro. Infuzis a me divina voco por cel=
ebrar la futuro e la pasinto e demandis me laudar kun himni la raso di feli=
ca Nemortiva e kantar ad eli en la komenco ed en la fino. Ma, pro quo me de=
tenas pri querko o petro?
 

 
 
 
  El , Chabi Chabi  escribi=C3=B3:
  
  

 
Danko ad omni pro via korektiguri.
 


 
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es, evidente tu esas justa: "kustumi e legi" (Latine: "institutis, legibus"=
). Danko!


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Partaka, tu ke esas Hispanlingua-parolanto, quale on povas tradukar:
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Atenea de ojos glaucos
 


 
 
 
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Fu), ma klara okuli, maxim probable griza, blu-verda o simple blua. Til bal=
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Yen ke "glauk.a" esas vorto advere internaciona, ma, forsan, ol ne ja oficaligesis en Ido. Me do sugestus la sequanta paro de posibla tradukuri: 
 1. Atenea havanta glauka okuli. 2. Atenea havanta blu-verda okuli. 
  
  (Partaka)



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Ye 23 agosto...

1899. Unesmafoye, mesajo esis transmisata per radio de nav=
o a mar-bordo. La faro-navo "San Francisco", situita cirkume 15 km de la ur=
bo San Francisco, sendis mesajo a la urbo informante ke li vidis la armeo-n=
avo "Sherman", qua esis arivonta ye la urbo. La navo portis Usana soldati q=
ui kombatabis en Filipini. Ca radio-sistemo esis specale aranjata por furni=
sar frua informeso pri la arivo di ca navo, quo ne altre esus posibla pro n=
ebulo ye la litoro di San Francisco.=A0

1926. La aktoro Rodolfo (Rudolph) =
Valentino mortis en Nova-York pro plevrito, evante 31 yari. Il arivis en Us=
a de Italia, ube il naskis, en 1913. Ilua kariero en cinemo komencis en Hol=
lywood ye cirkume 1919, kande il pleis mikra roli. Il divenis famoza en 192=
1 en la filmo "The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse", e plusa sucesoza filmi=
 sequis. Ye lua funero en Nova-York, cirkume 10000 personi asistis sur la s=
tradi.

1961. La Usana kosmosondilo Ranger 1 lansesis. Ol esis la unesma de=
 la Ranger-serio; la skopo di la projeto esis fotografar la luno dum ke ol =
proximeskis, til ke la kosmosondilo destruktesus da la koliziono. Ranger 1 =
esis lansata por probar la equipajo en terala orbito. La lanso esis ne suce=
soza, e la sondilo atingis basa terala orbito, de qua ol falis pos tri dii.=
 La unesma sucesoza de la serio esis Ranger 7, qua fotografis la luno e kol=
izionis ye 31 julio 1964. Ranger 8 e Ranger 9 (la lasta de la serio) anke e=
sis sucesoza.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye 23 agosto...

1899. Unesmafoye, mesajo esis tra=
nsmisata per radio de navo a mar-bordo. La faro-navo "San Francisco", situi=
ta cirkume 15 km de la urbo San Francisco, sendis mesajo a la urbo informan=
te ke li vidis la armeo-navo "Sherman", qua esis arivonta ye la urbo. La
 n=
avo portis Usana soldati qui kombatabis en Filipini. Ca radio-sistemo esis =
specale aranjata por furnisar frua informeso pri la arivo di ca navo, quo n=
e altre esus posibla pro nebulo ye la litoro di San Francisco. =

1926. La aktoro Rodolfo (Rudolph) V=
alentino mortis en Nova-York pro plevrito, evante 31 yari. Il arivis en Usa=
 de Italia, ube il naskis, en 1913. Ilua kariero en cinemo komencis en Holl=
ywood ye cirkume 1919, kande il pleis mikra roli. Il divenis famoza en 1921=
 en la filmo "The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse", e plusa sucesoza filmi =
sequis. Ye lua funero en Nova-York, cirkume 10000 personi asistis sur la st=
radi.

1961. La Usana kosmosondilo Ranger 1 lansesis. Ol esis la unesma=
 de la Ranger-serio; la skopo di la projeto esis fotografar la luno dum ke =
ol proximeskis, til ke la kosmosondilo destruktesus da la koliziono. Ranger=
 1 esis lansata por probar la equipajo en terala
 orbito. La lanso esis ne =
sucesoza, e la sondilo atingis basa terala orbito, de qua ol falis pos tri =
dii. La unesma sucesoza de la serio esis Ranger 7,
 qua fotografis la luno =
e kolizionis ye 31 julio 1964. Ranger 8 e Ranger 9 (la lasta de la serio) a=
nke esis sucesoza.

Kordiale DGW
=

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (43) 
 
  
  
  
 Kande l’ vetero kalmeskis, ni retrovenis por rekuperar la korpo di Kristo e sepultar ol en tombo, quan Josef de Arimatea posedis ed ofris a ni por tal nobla skopo... Kande me tushis la korpo di Jesu, malgre omno, me havis duminstanta impreso, ke il esis ne tote mortinta, e lore venis en mea kapo la vorti dil soldato Romana, qua asertabis, ke l’ Nazaretano mortabas tro rapide, nam, segun semblo, la komuna mortinti ankruce, ante mortar, kustumis rezistar plu multa hori kam la Maestro rezistabis. Tamen, me quik konvinkesis, ke Jesu esis absolute mortinta, kande me vidis la vunduro, quan la lanco dil soldato produktabis en ilua flanko, oltqua ‘sendubte’ trairabis ilua korpo til atingar mem ilua kordio, quo ya esus ipse mortigiva. E pluse, homal korpo sensanga esas homal korpo mortinta, ka ne?  Lore, Josef de Arimatea, Nikodemo e plura de ni netigis la korpo dil Maestro, vestizis ol e duktis ol til la mencionita tombo, ube ni depozis ol, ante klozar olta per enorma petro. 
 
  
 La chefaro Hebrea pregabis Pilato sender plura soldati Romana por vigilar la tombo di Jesu, pro ke li timis, ke ilua korpo povus furtesar da ilua partisani, por plu tarde proklamar, ke il advere rezurektis, nam il ya esas la Mesio... Tamen, tal surveyado Romana esis tote sensucesa, nam, malgre la prezenteso dil soldati, la petro-pordego apertesis da misterioza e povoza energio, e la korpo dil mortinto desaparis, quo advere pavorigis la soldati, qui fugis de ibe. 
 
  
 Esis sundio, e plura mulieri iris vizitar la tombo di Kristo, ma, kande li atingis ol, yen ke li vidis ol apertita e vakua, quo pensigis da li, ke ulu furtabas la korpo dil Maestro e celabas ol ula-loke. Tamen, Mariya de Magdala raportis pose, ke esis ibe paro de anjeli, qui informis li, ke Jesu ne plus esas mortinta, ma vivanta. El mem asertis, ke Jesu rezurektinta aparis avan el, ‘parlis’ ad el ed invitis el transmiser a ni omna la bona novajo pri ilua rivivesko... Kande Mariya de Magdala venis vizitar ni en la loko ube ni celite asemblis ni, nulu kredis elua versiono dil fakti, quo tristigis ed iracigis el, qua livis la chambro per pordo-stroko. 
 
 Ka me dicis nulu? Nu, Simon Petro tandem kredis, nam il rimemoris, ke to esis exakte lo anuncita dal Maestro. E anke me, Partakael, kredis, nam to omna skribesis olim por ke tale eventez ula-die. Jesu mortis e rezurektis quale previdite. 
  
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Kara amiki,

la Germana Ido-societo invitas lua membri ed interesati
partoprenar la yaral asemblo ye morga saturdio 14 kloki.
A turistala programo eventas i.a. promenado tra la parko di Sanssouci
e vizito di domo di Einstein.

Amikala saluti vers omna samideani
Eberhard Scholz


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Kar Eberhard,

Me lektis per interreto ke Albert Einstein esis la honorala =
prezidanto dil Esperantista kongreso di KASSEL en 1923. Kad esus vera ?
Me =
deziras a la GIS sucesoza yaral asemblo 2014.

Amikale

Lo=C3=AFc Landais

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> Kara amiki,
> 
> la Germana Ido-societo invitas lua membri ed inter=
esati
> partoprenar la yaral asemblo ye morga saturdio 14 kloki.
> A turist=
ala programo eventas i.a. promenado tra la parko di Sanssouci
> e vizito di=
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> 
> Amikala saluti vers omna samideani
> Eberhard Schol=
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Kar Eberhard,
 
 Me lektis per interreto ke Albert Einstein es=
is la honorala prezidanto dil Esperantista kongreso di KASSEL en 1923. Kad =
esus vera ?
Me deziras a la GIS sucesoza yaral asemblo 2014.


Am=
ikale


Lo=C3=AFc Landais


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> A turistala programo eventas =
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> e vizito di domo di Eins=
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> 
> Amikala saluti vers omna samideani
> Ebe=
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Suceso, me salutas omna partoprenanti.

Saluti amikala,

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>----Origineel Bericht----
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>Kara amiki,
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>A turistala programo eventas i.a. promenado tra la parko di Sanssouci
>e vizito di domo di Einstein.
>
>Amikala saluti vers omna samideani
>Eberhard Scholz
>
>
>------------------------------------
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Ye ca dio, 30 agosto...

1797. Mary Shelley, qua skribis la romano "Franken=
stein", naskis en London. Elua patro esis filizofo William Godwin; elua mat=
ro esis filozofo Mary Wollstonecraft, qua mortis kelka dii pos la nasko. En=
 1816 el esis mariajata kun la poeto Percy Bysshe Shelley. En somero 1816 e=
l vakancis an Lago Gen=E8ve en Suisa, kun Shelley e la poeto Byron; Byron s=
ugestis ke singlu skribez fantomo-rakonto. La rakonto skribita da Mary dive=
nis "Frankenstein; o, La Moderna Prometeo", pri ciencisto qua kreas vivanta=
 ento.

1909. La Burgess Shale (la Skist-argilo Burgess), fosilo-plena areo=
 en Kanada, esis deskovrita da palaeontologiisto Charles Walcott. Remarkint=
e la multa fosili, il retrovenis singla-yare til 1924, kolektanta plu kam 6=
5000 specimeni. Il duris kataligizar la fosili til lua morto en 1927, evant=
e 76 yari. La Burgess Shale kontenas multa bone-prezervita fosili de animal=
i qui vivis cirkume 505 milion yari ante nun, de multa ne-familiara kategor=
ii, di qui preske omna pose divenis extingita.

1984. Ye la Kennedy-Spaco-C=
entro en Florida, la unesma misiono di Space Shuttle Discovery komencis. Ol=
 portis sis homi, inkluzanta Judith Resnik, la duesma Usana homino en spaco=
. Dum la flugo, tri komuniko-sateliti esis lansata, ed experimenti esis fac=
ata. La flugo finis ye 5 septembro. Discovery facis 39 misioni, quo esas pl=
u kam irga altra spaco-navo; la lasta eventis en 2011. 

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 30 agosto...

1797. Mary Shelley, qua=
 skribis la romano "Frankenstein", naskis en London. Elua patro esis filizo=
fo William Godwin; elua matro esis filozofo Mary Wollstonecraft, qua mortis=
 kelka dii pos la nasko. En 1816 el esis mariajata kun la poeto Percy Byssh=
e Shelley. En somero 1816 el vakancis an Lago Gen=E8ve en Suisa, kun Shelle=
y e la poeto Byron; Byron sugestis ke singlu skribez fantomo-rakonto. La ra=
konto skribita da Mary divenis "Frankenstein; o, La Moderna Prometeo", pri =
ciencisto qua kreas vivanta ento.

1909. La Burgess Shale (la Skist-argilo Burgess), f=
osilo-plena areo en Kanada, esis deskovrita da palaeontologiisto Charles Wa=
lcott. Remarkinte la multa fosili, il retrovenis singla-yare til 1924, kole=
ktanta plu kam 65000 specimeni. Il duris kataligizar la fosili til lua mort=
o en 1927, evante 76
 yari. La Burgess Shale kontenas multa bone-prezervita=
 fosili de animali qui vivis cirkume 505 milion yari ante nun, de multa ne-=
familiara kategorii, di qui preske omna pose divenis extingita.

1984. Ye la Kennedy-Spaco-Centro en Florida, la unesma=
 misiono di Space Shuttle Discovery komencis. Ol portis sis homi, inkluzant=
a Judith Resnik, la duesma Usana homino en spaco. Dum la flugo, tri komunik=
o-sateliti esis lansata, ed experimenti esis facata. La flugo finis ye 5 se=
ptembro. Discovery facis 39 misioni, quo esas plu kam irga altra spaco-navo=
; la lasta eventis en 2011. 

Kordiale DGW

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (44) 
  
  
  
 
 Ti omni, qui ne kredabis ke l’ Maestro rezurektabas ed aparabas a Mariya de Magdala, tre balde mustis kredar lo, nam, ipse ta-sundie, dumvespere, Jesu prizentis su en nia celeyo e salutis ni omna: 
 
 --Paco kun vi! Pro quo vi pavoras? Ka vi ne fidas a me ed a to quon me dicis a vi? Me esas nula spektro, ma me ipsa, via Maestro. Venez a me! Ka vi havas ulo por ke me manjez? 
 
  
 Tamen, yen ke Tomas esis absenta ta-die (forsan, il esis preparanta sua revata voyajo ad India), e kande ni komunikis ad ilu, ke l’ Maestro advere riviveskis, e ke ni omna vidis ilu lor ilua recenta vizito a ni, Tomas respondis: 
 
 --Me regretas lo, ma me ne povas kredar to quon vi dicas. Me ipsa vidis la Maestro esar mortinta, e ni entombigis ilu. Il esis ya mortinta, do il ne povas nun esar vivanta. Mem se il rivivigabus altra homi, nun, kom mortinto, il nule povus rivivigar su ipsa, ka yes? Ton me kredus nur kaze ke me vidus ilu, tushus ilua korpo, explorus ilua vunduri ed irigus mea fingri en olci. Nur tale me kredus. 
 
  
 Pasabis apen sep od ok dii de pos la vizito da Jesu a ni, kande ni audis voco qua salutis ni, e ni quik deskovris Jesu, qua esis itere inter ni, ma, ca-foye, il mem trairabis la muri, vice frapar la pordo... (Ho! Me sempre certesis, ke tal prodajo posiblesas, quankam me ipsa ne ja sucesabis trairar muri, ecepte per mea specal audo-kapableso). Kande Tomas audis la voco e vidis Jesu, il restis absolute astonata, ma, mem tale, il nule refuzis l’invito dal Maestro, ed il senfriste tushis ilua korpo ed observis e palpis ilua vunduri.  
 
 --Ho, Maestro! Pardonez a me! Tu esas mea Sinioro e mea Deo --klamis la ne-kredemo dum genupozar pede di Kristo. 
 
 --Aye, Tomas! Tu kredabas nur pro ke tu vidabas. Fortunoza ti, qui kredas mem sen vidir --Jesu reprimandetis Tomas.  
 
  
 E lore, me questionis me ulo aparante tote absurda, ma pri quo me volunte deziras raportar a vi: “Qua tipo de sango havus Jesu? Ube il obtenabos tal enorma quanto de olca por retroalimentar e rivivigar ilua korpo?”. Stultaji, ka ne? Ve! 
  
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>
>
Kara Loic, kara  Hans,

danko pro via bondeziri.
No, pri la prezidanteso di A. Einstein en l´ Esperantokongreso 
laboristal 1923 me (e ni hike) savas nulo.
On nur povas konjektar ka Einstein  esis simpatiozo di la laboristala 
movemento.

Kordiale, Eberhard
>
> Kar Eberhard,
>
> Me lektis per interreto ke Albert Einstein esis la honorala prezidanto 
> dil Esperantista kongreso di KASSEL en 1923. Kad esus vera ?
> Me deziras a la GIS sucesoza yaral asemblo 2014.
>
> Amikale
>
> Loïc Landais
>
>     > Message du 29/08/14 10:48
>     > De : "Eberhard Scholz eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de [idolisto]"
>     
>     > A : "idolisto@yahoogroups.com" ,
>     germanlinguaidist@yahoogroups.de
>     > Copie à :
>     > Objet : [idolisto] Yaral asemblo 2014
>     >
>     > Kara amiki,
>     >
>     > la Germana Ido-societo invitas lua membri ed interesati
>     > partoprenar la yaral asemblo ye morga saturdio 14 kloki.
>     > A turistala programo eventas i.a. promenado tra la parko di
>     Sanssouci
>     > e vizito di domo di Einstein.
>     >
>     > Amikala saluti vers omna samideani
>     > Eberhard Scholz
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      Betreff: Re: [idolisto] Yaral asemblo 2014

      Von: LOIC.LANDAIS@wanadoo.fr [idolisto]
      

      An: idolisto@yahoogroups.com

      Datum: 29.08.2014 13:42

    

    

      
      
    

    Kara Loic, kara  Hans,

    

    danko pro via bondeziri.

    No, pri la prezidanteso di A. Einstein en l´ Esperantokongreso
    laboristal 1923 me (e ni hike) savas nulo.

    On nur povas konjektar ka Einstein  esis simpatiozo di la
    laboristala movemento.

    

    Kordiale, Eberhard

    

      
Kar Eberhard,

        

        Me lektis per interreto ke Albert Einstein esis la honorala
        prezidanto dil Esperantista kongreso di KASSEL en 1923. Kad esus
        vera ?

        Me deziras a la GIS sucesoza yaral asemblo 2014.

      
Amikale

      
Loïc Landais

      
> Message du 29/08/14 10:48

        > De : "Eberhard Scholz eberhard.scholz@idolinguo.de
        [idolisto]" 

        > A : "idolisto@yahoogroups.com"
        ,
        germanlinguaidist@yahoogroups.de

        > Copie à : 

        > Objet : [idolisto] Yaral asemblo 2014

        > 

        > Kara amiki,

        > 

        > la Germana Ido-societo invitas lua membri ed interesati

        > partoprenar la yaral asemblo ye morga saturdio 14 kloki.

        > A turistala programo eventas i.a. promenado tra la parko di
        Sanssouci

        > e vizito di domo di Einstein.

        > 

        > Amikala saluti vers omna samideani

        > Eberhard Scholz

      

    

    

  


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Kara Partaka, kara sioro Martignon

anke me opinionas, ke, sen la interreto e sen komputeri, la maxim bona 
interkomprenilo forsan ja esus mortinta.
Quon docas a ni ica fakto? Ka vartar, vartar e vartar til ke ula personi 
aparos kom aktivisti?
Me opinionas, ke ni esez responsiva por agar vers la mantenigo.
Me ipsa agas en mea personala regiono.
Nur naracado ne helpas ,

Kordiale,   Eberhard


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>
>
> *Heus Partaka !*
> **
> *Tu esas tote justa. Tamen, hike, esas problemo ; nome Ido semblas ne 
> nur permanar danke la interreto ma pluvivar nur che la interreto. La 
> Ido-renkontri havas singlafoye min multa partoprenanti. Olta di Paris 
> pro la mikra nombro de asistanti esis falio. E, tamen Paris esas un de 
> la maxim atraktiva urbi turismal. On devus cerebragar por trovar 
> solvuro carelate.*
> *Ido vivez e ne nur che la interreto ! JM :::-:::*
>
> *From:* Che Partaka chepartaka@hotmail.com [IdoCatalaOccitan] 
> 
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 31, 2014 2:38 PM
> *To:* IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com 
> 
> *Subject:* [IdoCatalaOccitan] Ido ed Internet
>
> *Maxim probable certesas ke Ido, malgre sua granda qualeso ed 
> ancieneso, desaparabus, kaze ke l'arivo di Internet ne permisabus a ni 
> pludifuzar, permanante e mondo-vaste, l'existo ed apteso di nia 
> helpo-linguo internaciona. Ni ne cesez interkomunikar per 
> Ido che Internet, e ni durez pluvivigar nia interlinguo! Ido vivez! 
> Vivez Ido! *
> **
> * (Partaka) *
>
>
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Kara Partaka, kara sioro Martignon

      

      anke me opinionas, ke, sen la interreto e sen komputeri, la maxim
      bona interkomprenilo forsan ja esus mortinta.

      Quon docas a ni ica fakto? Ka vartar, vartar e vartar til ke ula
      personi aparos kom aktivisti?

      Me opinionas, ke ni esez responsiva por agar vers la mantenigo. 

      Me ipsa agas en mea personala regiono.

      Nur naracado ne helpas ,

      

      Kordiale,   Eberhard

      

      

      An: IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com

      Datum: 31.08.2014 18:35

    

    

      
      
      
      
      
Heus
            Partaka !

      
 

      
Tu
            esas tote justa. Tamen, hike, esas problemo ; nome Ido
            semblas ne nur permanar danke la interreto ma pluvivar nur
            che la interreto. La Ido-renkontri havas singlafoye min
            multa partoprenanti. Olta di Paris pro la mikra nombro de
            asistanti esis falio. E, tamen Paris esas un de la maxim
            atraktiva urbi turismal. On devus cerebragar por trovar
            solvuro carelate.

      
Ido
            vivez e ne nur che la interreto ! JM :::-:::

      

        


        

        

          
          
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Maxim
              probable certesas ke Ido, malgre sua granda qualeso ed
              ancieneso, desaparabus, kaze ke l'arivo di Internet ne
              permisabus a ni pludifuzar, permanante e mondo-vaste,
              l'existo ed apteso di nia helpo-linguo internaciona. Ni ne
              cesez interkomunikar per Ido che Internet, e ni durez
              pluvivigar nia interlinguo! Ido vivez! Vivez Ido! 

           

           (Partaka)  

        

      

      
      
      

    

    

  


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Kar kolegi en la tota mondo:
 
Voluntez atencar la prezenta pozicioni di om=
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kigita, til hodie, per singla helpo-lingui: 
 
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45. V=
olap=FCk: 119.254
95. Ido: 25.902
110. Interlingua: 14.288
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193. Interlingue: 2.507 
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Kara samideani,
 
por la nova Ido-Kalendario 2015 me bezonas itere kelka mikra texti pri diversa temi, anke tradukuri, se ne esas kopioyuro, esas bonvenanta. Hike en Germania, la autoro di la texto mustas esar mortinta depos 70 yari, pose lua texti esas libere tradukebla. Por omna texto qua aparos en la kalendario me sendos, quale en la lasta yari, du gratuita exempleri di la nova kalendario a la autori e anke gratuita exemplero dil IS :)
 Pensez anke pri texti skribita da vi qui aparis en via blogi o *web-situi.
 Texti devus havar cirkume 500 vorti. Or forsan esus poemi quankam kun plu mikra nombri de vorti ma qui havus plu multa senco ...

Sendez tua texti til fino di Septembro a 
 ido-saluto(arobo)idolinguo(punto)de 

Exemplo PDF versiono di la Ido-Kalendario 2011 esas hike:
 
http://www.ido.li/kalendarios/Kalendario-2011.pdf http://www.ido.li/kalendarios/Kalendario-2011.pdf 

 Kordiale,
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Kara Detlef,

forsan me povas skribar mikra texto pri la temo, ke Idisto (me) 
nominesis kom chefo dil Volapük-movado ("Cifal"). Ta texto anke 
kontenus kelka pri Volapük e pri olua rolo en la aspiro ad linguo 
universala.

Saluti,
Hermann

Am 04.09.2014 08:23, schrieb dgroth@gmx.de [idolisto]:
> Kara samideani,
>
> por la nova Ido-Kalendario 2015 me bezonas itere kelka mikra texti pri
> diversa temi, anke tradukuri, se ne esas kopioyuro, esas bonvenanta.
> Hike en Germania, la autoro di la texto mustas esar mortinta depos 70
> yari, pose lua texti esas libere tradukebla. Por omna texto qua aparos
> en la kalendario me sendos, quale en la lasta yari, du gratuita
> exempleri di la nova kalendario a la autori e anke gratuita exemplero
> dil IS :)
> Pensez anke pri texti skribita da vi qui aparis en via blogi o *web-situi.
> Texti devus havar cirkume 500 vorti. Or forsan esus poemi quankam kun
> plu mikra nombri de vorti ma qui havus plu multa senco ...
>
> Sendez tua texti til fino di Septembro a
> ido-saluto(arobo)idolinguo(punto)de
>
> Exemplo PDF versiono di la Ido-Kalendario 2011 esas hike:
>
> http://www.ido.li/kalendarios/Kalendario-2011.pdf
>
>
> Kordiale,
>
> Detlef
>
> 


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Kara Hermann,

yes, lo esus certe interesiva. Danko por helpar pri la nova kalendario. 

Kordiala saluti,
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Warum ist der Kalender auch in deutsch?l


2014-09-04 8:23 GMT+02:00 dgroth@gmx.de [idolisto] :

>
>
> Kara samideani,
>
> por la nova Ido-Kalendario 2015 me bezonas itere kelka mikra texti pri
> diversa temi, anke tradukuri, se ne esas kopioyuro, esas bonvenanta. Hike
> en Germania, la autoro di la texto mustas esar mortinta depos 70 yari, pose
> lua texti esas libere tradukebla. Por omna texto qua aparos en la
> kalendario me sendos, quale en la lasta yari, du gratuita exempleri di la
> nova kalendario a la autori e anke gratuita exemplero dil IS :)
> Pensez anke pri texti skribita da vi qui aparis en via blogi o *web-situi.
> Texti devus havar cirkume 500 vorti. Or forsan esus poemi quankam kun plu
> mikra nombri de vorti ma qui havus plu multa senco ...
>
> Sendez tua texti til fino di Septembro a
> ido-saluto(arobo)idolinguo(punto)de
>
> Exemplo PDF versiono di la Ido-Kalendario 2011 esas hike:
>
> http://www.ido.li/kalendarios/Kalendario-2011.pdf
>
>
> Kordiale,
>
> Detlef
>
>
>


.

.

.

.

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Warum ist der Kalender auch in deutsch?l


2014-09-04 8:23 GMT+02:00 dgroth@gmx.de [idolisto] =
<idolisto@=
yahoogroups.com>:









        

















Kara samideani,


por la nova Ido-Kalenda=
rio 2015 me bezonas itere kelka mikra texti
 pri diversa temi, anke traduku=
ri, se ne esas kopioyuro, esas bonvenanta. Hike en Germania, la autoro 
di =
la texto mustas esar mortinta depos 70 yari, pose lua 
texti esas libere tr=
adukebla. Por omna texto qua aparos en la 
kalendario me sendos, quale en l=
a lasta yari, du gratuita exempleri di la nova kalendario a la autori e ank=
e gratuita exemplero dil IS :)

Pensez anke pri texti skribita da vi qui=
 aparis en via blogi o *web-situi.

Texti devus havar cirkume 500 vorti.=
 Or forsan esus poemi quankam 
kun plu mikra nombri de vorti ma qui havus p=
lu multa senco ...

Sendez tua texti til fino di Septembro a <=
br> ido-saluto(arobo)idolinguo(punto)de


Exemplo PDF versiono =
di la Ido-Kalendario 2011 esas hike:


http://w=
ww.ido.li/kalendarios/Kalendario-2011.pdf

Kor=
diale,
Detlef





















.

.

.

.





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Saluto Bert,

la texti e la kalendario en la kalendario esas en Ido. Kelka aferi quale skol-vakanci e kontakt-adresi esas por nia Germana idisti pro ke la kalendario esas facita chefe por la membri di Germana Ido-Societo. Tamen la kalendario
esas anke uzeble en la tota Ido-mondo ;) Forsan me itere inkluzos la Germana-Ido vortaro, e la "Sprachlehre" la linguala kurseto cayare.

Kordiale,
Detlef
PS: Se tu ankre ne parolas Ido ... Falls Du noch kein Ido sprichts, kannst Du gerne die Der Deutsch sprechende Idist https://de.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/germanlinguaidist/info 
 
 https://de.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/germanlinguaidist/info 
 
 Der Deutsch sprechende Idist https://de.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/germanlinguaidist/info Die Deutsch sprechenden Freunde, Interessenten und Sympathisianten der internationalen Sprache Ido (reformiertes Esperanto) koennen ihre Ido und die Id...
 
 
 
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 Newsgruppe benutzen, dort antworte ich auch in Deutsch. Hier sollte möglichst nur Ido verwendet werden.



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Ye ca dio, 6 septembro...

1620. La navo "Mayflower" departis de Plymouth, =
Anglia, seglirante a Nord-Amerika. Ol portis 121 pasajeri, qui deziris eska=
par de religiala persekutado e fondar nova kolonio. Li renkontris tempestoz=
a vetero dum la voyajo, e li konsideris retro-irar kande la navo esis domaj=
ata; tamen la domajo esis reparata e li duris; li vidis tero ye 9 novembro.=
 La Plymouth-kolonio, en la nuntempa Usana stato Massachusetts, esis fondat=
a.   

1791. En Praha, la opero "La clemenza di Tito" da Mozart esis unesma=
foye pleata. La komiso, skribar opero por celebrar la kronizo di Leopold 2m=
a kom rejulo di Bohemia, esis ofrita ad altra kompozisti ante ke ol esis ac=
eptata da Mozart, e la sugestata libreto, da Pietro Metastasio, esis ja uti=
ligita en plura antea operi. Ca opero e "Die Zauberfl=F6te", unesmafoye ple=
ata en Wien plu tarde en septembro, esis la lasta operi quin Mozart skribis=
 ante lua morto en decembro di ta yaro.

1956. Michael Ventris, la deschifr=
into di anciena skriburi di Kriti, mortis evante 34 yari, en automobilo-aci=
dento. Dum exkavado da Arthur Evans di la prehistoriala urbo Knossos en Kri=
ti, argila skribotabeleti esis trovata, montranta du tipi di literi, nomizi=
ta "linear A" e "linear B". La duesma tipo, en frua Grekiana linguo, esis d=
eschifrita en 1952 da Ventris. Ilua intereso komencis en 1936 kande, kom sk=
olano, il asistis diskurso di Arthur Evans. Dum ke il sequis kariero kom ar=
kitekto, il duris studiar "linear B", konstatante ke ol esis Grekiana lingu=
o. Il mortis kelka semani ante ke ilua edituro pri la linguo aparis.

Kordi=
ale DGW

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Ye ca dio, 6 septembro...

1620. La navo "Mayflower" departis d=
e Plymouth, Anglia, seglirante a Nord-Amerika. Ol portis 121 pasajeri, qui =
deziris eskapar de religiala persekutado e fondar nova kolonio. Li renkontr=
is tempestoza vetero dum la voyajo, e li konsideris retro-irar kande la nav=
o esis domajata; tamen la domajo esis reparata e li duris; li vidis tero ye=
 9 novembro. La Plymouth-kolonio, en la nuntempa Usana stato Massachusetts,=
 esis fondata.
   

1791. En Praha, la opero "La cleme=
nza di Tito" da Mozart esis unesmafoye pleata. La komiso, skribar opero por=
 celebrar la kronizo di Leopold 2ma kom rejulo di Bohemia, esis ofrita ad a=
ltra kompozisti ante ke ol esis aceptata da Mozart, e la sugestata libreto,=
 da Pietro Metastasio, esis ja utiligita en plura antea operi. Ca opero e "=
Die Zauberfl=F6te", unesmafoye pleata en Wien plu tarde en septembro, esis =
la lasta operi quin Mozart skribis ante lua morto en decembro di ta yaro.

1956. Michael Ventris, la deschifrinto di anciena skriburi di Kr=
iti, mortis evante 34 yari, en automobilo-acidento. Dum exkavado da Arthur =
Evans di la prehistoriala urbo Knossos en Kriti, argila skribotabeleti esis=
 trovata, montranta du tipi di literi, nomizita "linear A" e "linear B". La=
 duesma tipo, en frua Grekiana linguo, esis deschifrita en 1952 da Ventris.=
 Ilua intereso komencis en 1936 kande, kom skolano, il asistis diskurso di =
Arthur Evans. Dum ke il sequis kariero kom arkitekto, il duris studiar "lin=
ear B", konstatante ke ol esis
 Grekiana linguo. Il mortis kelka semani ant=
e ke ilua edituro pri la linguo aparis.

Kordiale DGW
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (45) 
  
  
  
 
 Ta-tempe, pos riviveskir, Jesu duris aparar avan ni mem plusa-foye: survoye ad Emaús, che l’ Maro di Galilea, edc. Ni ne sempre esis ensemble, ma il prizentis su lore ad uni, lore ad altri. Tamen, la lasta ed ultima foyo, kande ni vidis Jesu, ni omna esis kune e, pos nia maxim specal asemblo, il duktis ni, la tota apostolaro, che l’ Monto dil Olivieri, proxim Betania. Ibe, il predikis a ni, benedikis ni, levis ilua brakii e komencis acensar pokope vers la cielo... Vidante quale il separis su de ni ed iris adsupre, quo ne tro multe impresis me, nam me ipsa voyajabis ne nur en la spaco, ma mem ad-dope en la tempo, me subite pensis pri mea matro e quon el povus komentar, kaze ke el esus ibe, kun ni, dum spektar tal acensado: “Ho! La cielo tre multe foresas... Se il duros acensar tante pokope, il nul-tempe atingos ol... E pluse, il sentos su esar kolda survoye, nam il prenis nul aparta vestaro... E quale’ il povos respirar exter oxo-zono? Me nule certesas kad il sucesos pri sua skopo.”
 
  
 Esis granda nubo super nia kapi, e ni spektis Jesu enirar ol e desaparar en olua internajo... Voluntez ne questionar me kad esis ulo od ulu celita en la nubo! Me vidis advere nulo ibe. Tamen, lo sequanta, quon ni omna spektis, esis ne plus acensanta Jesu, ma intensega lumo ekiranta la nubo ed iranta rapidege vers la cielo... Me ne povis evitar pensar e konkluzar, ke tal intensega lumo, forsan, produktesis da posibla navo exterterana, qua deturnis Jesu e duktis il exter nia limitizita planeto Tero, quo justifikus omna ilua mirakli, inkluzante ilua rezurekto. Ma, altra-latere, quoniam anke nia omnopovanta Deo esas exterterano, omno posiblesis e, forsan, esis Deo ipsa ta qua duktis Jesu aden la cielo exterterana. Irga-kaze, ni ne plus povis durar juar tala spektaklo, pro ke grupo de soldati Romana arivis intertempe apud ni, e li komencis pulsegar ni omna dum klamegar: 
 
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Kara samideani,

yen kurta raporto pri nia yarala asemblo e kelka imaji di nia renkontro en Schwielowsee, Germania.

Ido - Generala informi pri la Linguo Internaciona / DIG-JHV-2014 http://www.ido.li/index.php/ULI/DIG-JHV-2014 
 
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Kara Detlef, kara gesamideani!

Kun grandega plezuro me regardis l'interret=
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Me g=
ratulas a Detlef pro ica importanta agado.
La raporto esas tre interesiva.
=

Certe esabus utila por l'Ido-movemento e por interesemi, se anke membri di=
 ULI  e precipue di olua Direktanta Komitato e dil Germana Ido-Societo inte=
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Segun me=
a experienci ica espero esas vana, regretinde.
Ica vaneso esis un di mea mo=
tivi livar ULI fine di 2012 e GIS fine di 2013.

Kordiale salutas vi omna

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Kara Detlef, kara gesamide=
ani!

Kun grandega plezuro me regardis l'interreta inform=
i e la fotografuri da Detlef Groth pri l'yaral asemblo di GIS.
Me=
 gratulas a Detlef pro ica importanta agado.
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interesiva.

Certe esabus utila por l'Ido-movemento=
 e por interesemi, se anke membri di ULI  e precipue di olua Direktant=
a Komitato e dil Germana Ido-Societo interesabus pri ica afero ed ofrus lia=
 komento publike en nia forumi.

Segun mea experien=
ci ica espero esas vana, regretinde.
Ica vaneso esis un di mea mo=
tivi livar ULI fine di 2012 e GIS fine di 2013.

Ko=
rdiale salutas vi omna



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Kara Detlef,

Danko pro la publikigo dil yarala raporto di la GIS-chefkunve=
no e la korespondanta fotografuri qui montras tre amikala renkontro en tre =
bela kadro. 

Quale Jean Martignon me preferus partoprenar a la nexta Ido-r=
ekontro 2015 dum la 2ma-6ma di septembro 2015 por evitar la tro granda varm=
eso di agosto.
Esus bone questionar pri la posibla dati nur ti qui deziros =
partoprenar ca renkontro.

Yen mea korektiguri pri la texto:

konstruita ->=
 konstruktita
finigita -> finita
chefe -> principue
kande lu restis -> ante=
 ke lu ekmigris
usar -> uzar
retrovenos ek USA -> retrovenos de USA
St=C3=
=BCler-basilika -> St=C3=BCler-basiliko
datumo -> dato 

kordiale de Franci=
a
Lo=C3=AFc Landais 






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> Kara samideani,
> 
> yen kurta =
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ee, Germania.
> 
> Ido - Generala informi pri la Linguo Internaciona / DIG-=
JHV-2014




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Ido - Generala informi pri la Ling=
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Yarala Chefkunveo di Germana Ido-Societo en Schw=
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Kara Detlef,

Danko pro la publikigo dil yarala raporto di la =
GIS-chefkunveno e la korespondanta fotografuri qui montras tre amikala renk=
ontro en tre bela kadro. 

Quale Jean Martignon me preferus parto=
prenar a la nexta Ido-rekontro 2015 dum la 2ma-6ma di septembro 2015 por ev=
itar la tro granda varmeso di agosto.
Esus bone questionar pri la posi=
bla dati nur ti qui deziros partoprenar ca renkontro.

Yen mea ko=
rektiguri pri la texto:

konstruita -> konstruktita
finig=
ita -> finita
chefe -> principue
kande lu restis -> ante=
 ke lu ekmigris
usar -> uzar
retrovenos ek USA -> retroveno=
s de USA
St=C3=BCler-basilika -> St=C3=BCler-basiliko
datumo -=
> dato 

kordiale de Francia
Lo=C3=AFc Landais 
  
 



> Message du 07/09/14 17:18<=
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> 
> Kara samidea=
ni,
> 
> yen kurta raporto pri nia yarala asemblo e kelka i=
maji di nia renkontro en Schwielowsee, Germania.
> 
> Ido - Generala informi pri la Linguo Internaciona / DIG-JHV-201=
4


> =C2=A0

Kordiala saluti,
> Detlef 
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Ye ca dio, 13 septembro...

1501. En Firenze, la skultisto Michelangelo kom=
encis krear statuo di David, la personego de la Biblo, qua esis favorata su=
bjekto por arto en ta urbo. Il kompletigis ol en 1504. La statuo originale =
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sis por statuo di David, ma laboro abandonesis en 1466. La autoritato di la=
 katedralo, qua deziris utiligar la kustoza marmoro, komisis Michelangelo, =
qua evis 26 yari, krear la statuo.

1807. La Meso en C, korala verko da Lud=
wig van Beethoven, esis unesmafoye pleata. La verko esis komisata da Princo=
 Esterh=E1zy, por celebrar la nomo-dio di lua spozino. Tala komiso esis yar=
ala evento, recevita antee da Joseph Haydn, qua ne pluse povis facar lo. La=
 princo ne prizis la nova verko, e Beethoven, iracigata da lua opiniono, de=
dikis la meso ad altra patrono di la kompozisto, Princo Ferdinand Kinsky.  =
 

1956. La kompanio IBM anuncis nova *komputoro, la IBM 305 RAMAC; ol esis=
 la unesma komercala *komputoro en qua informeso esis konservebla en harda =
disko-aparato kun movanta kapi. RAMAC signifikis "Random Access Method of A=
ccounting and Control" - "hazarda-acesala metodo di kalkulado e direktado".=
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oduktado duris til 1961.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 13 septembro...

=

1501. En Firenze, la skultisto Michelangel=
o komencis krear statuo di David, la personego de la Biblo, qua esis favora=
ta subjekto por arto en ta urbo. Il kompletigis ol en 1504. La statuo origi=
nale esis parto de projeto qua komencis en 1410, por krear 12 statui por la=
 katedralo di Firenze. Du esis facata, de terakoto; en 1464 marmora bloko o=
btenesis por statuo di David, ma laboro abandonesis en 1466. La autoritato =
di la katedralo, qua deziris utiligar la kustoza marmoro, komisis Michelang=
elo, qua evis 26 yari, krear la statuo.

1807. La Meso en C, korala =
verko da Ludwig van Beethoven, esis unesmafoye pleata. La verko esis komisa=
ta da Princo Esterh=E1zy, por celebrar la nomo-dio di lua spozino. Tala kom=
iso esis yarala evento, recevita antee da Joseph Haydn, qua ne pluse povis =
facar lo. La princo ne prizis la nova
 verko, e Beethoven, iracigata da lua=
 opiniono, dedikis la meso ad altra patrono di la kompozisto, Princo Ferdin=
and Kinsky.   

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1956. La kompanio
 IBM anuncis nova *komputo=
ro, la IBM 305
 RAMAC; ol esis la unesma komercala *komputoro en qua inform=
eso esis konservebla en harda disko-aparato kun movanta kapi. RAMAC signifi=
kis "Random Access Method of Accounting and Control" - "hazarda-acesala met=
odo di kalkulado e direktado". Ol havis 50 diski di diametro 610 mm. Ol esi=
s un de la lasta *komputori di IBM qua utiligis vakuo-tubi, ed olua pezo es=
is plu kam un tuno; la mashino bezonis chambro di 9m per 15m. Plu kam 100 m=
ashini esis konstruktata, e produktado duris til 1961.
Kordiale DGW
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Kara Detlef,

hodie (13a di septembro) me sendis a tu mea artiklo pri la Idisto, qua divenis la "Cifal" dil Volapük-movado a tua privata adreso elektronal.

Kordiale,
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Kara Hermann, yes me recevis ol. Interesiva texto. Me tre dankas. Ma forsan ol esas plu apta por la Ido-Saluto! Tu povas decidar, ube me publikigos la texto. 
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Kara Detlef,
tu es justa: La Ido-Saluto certe esas plu bona loko por mea texto.

Kordiale,
Hermann

Am 13.09.2014 13:26, schrieb dgroth@gmx.de [idolisto]:
> Kara Hermann, yes me recevis ol. Interesiva texto. Me tre dankas. Ma
> forsan ol esas plu apta por la Ido-Saluto! Tu povas decidar, ube me
> publikigos la texto.
> Agreabla semanofino.
> Kordiale,
> Detlef
>
> 


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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (46) 
  
  
  
 
 Pos tal acenso e definitiva desaparo di Jesu de la Tero, anke me ipsa komencis pensar pri mea propra retroveno aden mea kustumal tempo ed epoko, nome aden la 20ma yarcento, nam nulu nek nulo plusa retenis me ibe, kontre ke familiani, amiki, vicini e konocati di mea yarcento, maxim probable, esus sufranta pro mea long absenteso, o li mem konjektabus, ke me mortis e, konseque, ke me ne plus retrovenos.  
 
  
 Me do decidis anuncar a le tri Mariya ed al tota apostolaro, qui esabis ecelanta kunvoyajanti e kolegi dum la lasta tri yari, mea balda e bezonata departo. Anekdotale, ta-die, kande me akompanesis da nur le tri Mariya e Jan, lor *adear li, yen ke me questionis Mariya, la matro di Jesu: 
 
 --He, Mari! Ka me duras pavorigar tu, same kam dum nia unesma renkontro en Jerusalem, kande tu e tua spozo, Josef, esis serchanta via puera filiulo? 
 
  
 E lore, la Santa Virgino Mariya, matro di Jesu, agis ulo quo advere men impresis ed astonegis; ulo quon nul komuna muliero audacabus agar, mem se endome, e koram nur du plusa mulieri e Jan... El, kun santega e serenega subrido, sideskis sur mea gremio, pasigis sua brakio sur mea shultri, quaze me ja divenabus por el sorto di arkianjelo Santa Partakael, e dicis a me: 
 
 --Me devas agnoskar, ke tua lora aspekto pavorigis me, ma tu de longe ne plus men pavorigas. Tu esas benigna homo, e me ya tote fidas a tu. 
 
 --Ho, danko, Mari! Ka tu do ne plus duras pensar, ke me esas rara homo? --me questionis, dum ke Mariya restis ankor sur mea gremio. 
 
 --Ha, no, Partakael! Me tote duras pensar, ke tu esas rara homo, mem rarega homo! --el respondis dum staceskar e rideskar (quale nur tre rare el facis), forsan aparte kontenta pro la recenta rezurekto e fulminante rapida “acenso laboral” di sua kara filio aden la Cielo. 
 
  
 Tal komento da Mariya, e mea sempre plu kreskanta astono, igis rideskar anke omna ceteri. E lore, me volunte deziris precizigar ulo por kelke justifikar me: 
 
 --Nu, fakte, me ne esas rara, ma nur me ipsa. Ka to esas lo rara? Eser su ipsa? Ke ulu esez su ipsa? 
  
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 Saluti e til balde! 
  
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Kara samideani,

Frank Kasper facis bela galerio di la imaji de la Ido-renkontro en Paris. Videz hike:

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Ye ca dio, 20 septembro...

1842. En Skotia, la fizikisto e kemiisto James =
Dewar naskis. Il esas konocata pro ilua laboro pri la liquidigo di gasi, ed=
 exploradi ye temperaturi proxim absoluta zero. Il desegnis e konstruktis m=
ashino qua produktis liquida oxigeno. Il inventis vakuo-cirkondita kontenil=
o por konservar liquidigita gasi; il ne patentizis ca inventuro, olqua plu =
tarde divenis generale konocata kom la vakuo-flakono o "Thermos"-flakono.

=
1908. La violinisto Pablo de Sarasate mortis en Biarritz, Francia, evante 6=
4 yari. Naskinte en Pamplona, Hispania, il esis notende habila ye la violin=
o ye frua evo. Il unesmafoye koncertis evante ok yari, en A Coru=F1a. De de=
k-e-du yari, il studiis ye la konservatorio di Paris. Il koncertis unesmafo=
ye en Paris en 1860, e pose pleis en plura kontinenti. Il kompozis plura ve=
rki por la violino; bone konocata esas "Zigeunerweisen" di 1878, e "Carmen =
Fantasy" (utiligante temi de la opero Carmen) di 1883.

1966. En Usa, la ko=
smosondilo Surveyor 2 lansesis. Ol esis la duesma de la Surveyor-projeto, p=
or demonstrar la praktikebleso di dolce atingar la surfaco di la luno. Surv=
eyor 1 atingabis la surfaco en junio 1966 e fotografabis la tereno. La proj=
etita misiono di Surveyor 2 esis arivar ye altra regiono di la luno e prena=
r fotografuri. Tamen, esis falio di korektigo di la voyo dum la voyajo, e l=
a sondilo kolizionis kun la luno proxim kratero Copernicus, ye rapideso 2,6=
 km/s, ye 23 septembro.

Kordiale DGW
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1842. En Skotia, la =
fizikisto e kemiisto James Dewar naskis. Il esas konocata pro ilua laboro p=
ri la liquidigo di gasi, ed exploradi ye temperaturi proxim absoluta zero. =
Il desegnis e konstruktis mashino qua produktis liquida oxigeno. Il inventi=
s vakuo-cirkondita kontenilo por konservar liquidigita gasi; il ne patentiz=
is ca inventuro, olqua plu tarde divenis generale konocata kom la vakuo-fla=
kono o "Thermos"-flakono.

1908. La violinisto Pablo de
 Sarasate=
 mortis en Biarritz, Francia, evante
 64 yari. Naskinte en Pamplona, Hispan=
ia, il esis notende habila ye la violino ye frua evo. Il unesmafoye koncert=
is evante ok yari, en A Coru=F1a. De dek-e-du yari, il studiis ye la konser=
vatorio di Paris. Il koncertis unesmafoye en Paris en 1860, e pose pleis en=
 plura kontinenti. Il kompozis plura verki por la violino; bone konocata es=
as "Zigeunerweisen" di 1878, e "Carmen Fantasy" (utiligante temi de la oper=
o Carmen) di 1883.

1966. En Usa, la kosmosondilo Surveyor 2 lanse=
sis. Ol esis la duesma de la Surveyor-projeto, por
 demonstrar la praktikeb=
leso di dolce atingar la surfaco di la luno.
 Surveyor 1 atingabis la surfa=
co en junio 1966 e fotografabis la tereno. La projetita misiono di Surveyor=
 2 esis arivar ye altra regiono di la luno e prenar fotografuri. Tamen, esi=
s falio di korektigo di la voyo dum la voyajo, e la sondilo kolizionis kun =
la luno proxim kratero Copernicus, ye rapideso 2,6 km/s, ye 23 septembro.

Kordiale DGW

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Kara samideani,
  
 me invitas vi omna sendar artikli por la *nexta numero di LA PLUMO IDALA, qua editesos balde.
  
 L'artikli darfas esar di irga speco, di informo o di literaturo.
  
 Li devas esar en Ido; se vi sendas texti en altra lingui, me publikigos la tradukuri en Ido, ma se la texti esas kurta (ne plu longa kam un pagino), me publikigos anke l'originalo.
  
 Ica esas la numero somerala, do esas bonvenanta texti pri la somero, ma anke pri irga altra temo.
  
 La numero ja esas tarda, do me povas donar a vi nur un semano por sendar la texti.
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (47) 
  
  
  
 
 Pose, me regardis Mariya de Magdala e questionis el:   
 
 --He, Magda! Ka anke tu pensas, ke me esas benigna homo? 
 
 --Ho, yes! Me tote konsentas, ke tu esas benigna homo, ma me ne tote fidas a tu, do ne expektez, ke me sideskos sur tua gremio. Semblas a me, ke tu esas viro advere posedanta granda su-dominaco; tamen, mem tale, tu ya viresas. 
 
 --Nula expekto, amikino. Irga-kaze, me joyas konocir tu. 
 
 --He, tu! Ne jokez! Tu nul-tempe konocis me! --el protestis.  
 
 --Ho, pardonez, Magda! Me probas dicar, ke me joyas havar tua respekto ed amikeso. 
 
  
 Dume, Mariya di Kleofas redeskabis admaxime, e kande me regardis el, el kelke balbutis lo yena: 
 
 --Anke me konkordas pri tua benigneso, ma anke me ne tote fidas a tu e tua aparanta sereneso, do me nul-kaze audacus repozar sur tua gremio. 
 
 --Ne suciez, Iya! Me nule expektas lo. Me dankas anke tu pro tua helpo ed amikeso. 
 
  
 E lore, kande me preske riganabis mea kustumal quieteso, yen ke eventis ulo, quo men astonegis mem plu multe kam antee, kande mea gremio aceptabis la santega posa parto di Mariya de Nazaret... Yen ke, subite, Jan sideskis sur mea gremio, pasigis sua brakio sur mea shultri, e dicis a me, dum palpebragar e ciliagar adminime tri-foye ne-mediata: 
 
 --Kara Partakael: anke me devas agnoskar, ke tu esas benigna homo, e anke me tote fidas a tu. Ne forirez, me pregas! Restez hike kun Matro e kun me! 
 
 --Ho, Jan! Ka tu nun demandas de me, ke me restez hike? Ka tu ipsa ne sendabis me, mem plura-foye, retroe aden mea tempo? Quo eventis?
 
 --Pardonez, amiko! Me esas tre komuna e simpla homo, ma me nun intelektas. Tu esas ulu qua su estimigas dal ceteri. 
 
 --Ka tu “intelektas”, Jan? Ka pro to tu pregas me, ke me restez? Me regretas lo, kara kompano, ma me ne povas permisar a me restar. Me devas departar e retrovenar en mea epoko por renkontror mea familiani ed amiki. Mea vivo. 
 
  
 Kande Jan staceskis e livis mea gremio, mea mento quik flugis aden l’urbo Efeso, ube, pos kelka yari, il e sua duesma matro, nome Mariya de Nazaret, alias Matro, rezidus... E lore, me rimemoris kun plezuro mea olima voyajo en Turkia, fine dil 20ma yarcento, e mea tre specal eniro al klozilo cirkondanta la famoza, ancienega ed akustike perfekta teatreyo Greka-Romana di Efeso... Ta-kaze, me selektis eniror la klozilo ne quale turisto, ma quale Efesano, nam me intuicis, ke, ne tro fore dil ofical enireyo, me trovos truo acesebla... E yes! Apud la voyeto, qua cirkondas la klozilo, me balde trovis ne nur truo facile acesebla da homo, ma truego trairebla mem da kamiono... Me eniris olta, e me pokope atingis la teatreyo ed omno altra ibe. Plu tarde, me preferis ekirar anke tra l’ truego, e ne tra l’ofical ekireyo.   
  
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Kara David,
Ka James Dewar relatas la konocata wiskio-marko Dewar? O ka nur=
 esas hazardajo, la nomo?
Saluti amikala,
Hans Stuifbergen
--
La skopo di l=
a stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
----Origineel Bericht----
Van : idoli=
sto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 20/09/2014 09:22
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com=

Onderwerp : [idolisto] 20 Septembro: tri pasinta eventi di ca dio
 
 
  
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Ye ca dio, 20 septembro...
1842. En Skotia, la fiz=
ikisto e kemiisto James Dewar naskis. Il esas konocata pro ilua laboro pri =
la liquidigo di gasi, ed exploradi ye temperaturi proxim absoluta zero. Il =
desegnis e konstruktis mashino qua produktis liquida oxigeno. Il inventis v=
akuo-cirkondita kontenilo por konservar liquidigita gasi; il ne patentizis =
ca inventuro, olqua plu tarde divenis generale konocata kom la vakuo-flakon=
o o "Thermos"-flakono.
1908. La violinisto Pablo de
 Sarasate mortis en Bia=
rritz, Francia, evante
 64 yari. Naskinte en Pamplona, Hispania, il esis no=
tende habila ye la violino ye frua evo. Il unesmafoye koncertis evante ok y=
ari, en A Coru=C3=B1a. De dek-e-du yari, il studiis ye la konservatorio di =
Paris. Il koncertis unesmafoye en Paris en 1860, e pose pleis en plura kont=
inenti. Il kompozis plura verki por la violino; bone konocata esas "Zigeune=
rweisen" di 1878, e "Carmen Fantasy" (utiligante temi de la opero Carmen) d=
i 1883.
1966. En Usa, la kosmosondilo Surveyor 2 lansesis. Ol esis la duesm=
a de la Surveyor-projeto, por
 demonstrar la praktikebleso di dolce atingar=
 la surfaco di la luno.
 Surveyor 1 atingabis la surfaco en junio 1966 e fo=
tografabis la tereno. La projetita misiono di Surveyor 2 esis arivar ye alt=
ra regiono di la luno e prenar fotografuri. Tamen, esis falio di korektigo =
di la voyo dum la voyajo, e la sondilo kolizionis kun la luno proxim krater=
o Copernicus, ye rapideso 2,6 km/s, ye 23 septembro.
Kordiale DGW
    
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Kara David,
 
Ka James Dewar relatas la konoc=
ata wiskio-marko Dewar? O ka nur esas hazardajo, la nomo?
 <=
/div>
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
--La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
<=
blockquote style=3D"margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 15px;">----Origineel Be=
richt----
Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 20/09/2014 09:22
=
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] 20 Septembro: tri =
pasinta eventi di ca dio














 

 



    

      
      
      
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<=
span class=3D"yiv3397721356" id=3D"yiv3397721356yui_3_16_0_5_1408444497986_=
22" style=3D"font-size: 18px;">1842. En Skotia, la fizikisto e kemiisto Jam=
es Dewar naskis. Il esas konocata pro ilua laboro pri la liquidigo di gasi,=
 ed exploradi ye temperaturi proxim absoluta zero. Il desegnis e konstrukti=
s mashino qua produktis liquida oxigeno. Il inventis vakuo-cirkondita konte=
nilo por konservar liquidigita gasi; il ne patentizis ca inventuro, olqua p=
lu tarde divenis generale konocata kom la vakuo-flakono o "Thermos"-flakono=
.

1908. La violinisto=
 Pablo de
 Sarasate mortis en Biarritz, Francia, evante
 64 yari. Naskinte =
en Pamplona, Hispania, il esis notende habila ye la violino ye frua evo. Il=
 unesmafoye koncertis evante ok yari, en A Coru=C3=B1a. De dek-e-du yari, i=
l studiis ye la konservatorio di Paris. Il koncertis unesmafoye en Paris en=
 1860, e pose pleis en plura kontinenti. Il kompozis plura verki por la vio=
lino; bone konocata esas "Zigeunerweisen" di 1878, e "Carmen Fantasy" (util=
igante temi de la opero Carmen) di 1883.

1966. En Usa, la kosmosondilo Surveyor 2 lansesis. Ol=
 esis la duesma de la Surveyor-projeto, por
 demonstrar la praktikebleso di=
 dolce atingar la surfaco di la luno.
 Surveyor 1 atingabis la surfaco en j=
unio 1966 e fotografabis la tereno. La projetita misiono di Surveyor 2 esis=
 arivar ye altra regiono di la luno e prenar fotografuri. Tamen, esis falio=
 di korektigo di la voyo dum la voyajo, e la sondilo kolizionis kun la luno=
 proxim kratero Copernicus, ye rapideso 2,6 km/s, ye 23 septembro.

Kordiale DGW
=


    

     

    









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Ye ca dio, 27 septembro...

1389. En Firenze, Cosimo de' Medici naskis. Ilu=
a patro esis bankisto, de qua Cosimo heredis sua richajo. Il utiligis la ri=
chajo por ganar politikala povo en Firenze; il divenis (fakte ma ne oficale=
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lo Piero, e Lorenzo filiulo di Piero (tatempe konocita kom "Lorenzo il Magn=
ifico"), simile divenis guvernanti di Firenze. La banko di le Medici diveni=
s la maxim importanta banko en Europa dum la 15ma yarcento.

1908. En Detro=
it, Michigan Usa, la unesma veturo Model T departis de la Ford-fabrikerio. =
Henry Ford volis ke veturo esez produktata, olqua esus suficante chipa por =
granda nombro di personi. La Model T esis amasale produktata sur movanta as=
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ris, la piktisto Edgar Degas mortis. Naskinte en Paris en 1834, il havis in=
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Ye ca dio, 27 septembro...

1389. En Firenze, Cosimo de' Medici
 naskis. Ilua patro esis ba=
nkisto, de qua Cosimo heredis sua richajo. Il utiligis la richajo por ganar=
 politikala povo en Firenze; il divenis (fakte ma ne oficale) guvernanto di=
 la urbo, esante la unesma de la
 Medici-dinastio. Ilua filiulo Piero, e Lo=
renzo filiulo di Piero (tatempe konocita kom "Lorenzo il Magnifico"), simil=
e divenis guvernanti di Firenze. La banko di le Medici divenis la maxim imp=
ortanta banko en Europa dum la 15ma yarcento.
1908. En Detroit, Michigan Usa, la unesma vet=
uro Model T departis de la Ford-fabrikerio. Henry Ford volis ke veturo esez=
 produktata, olqua esus suficante chipa por granda nombro di personi. La Mo=
del T esis amasale produktata sur movanta asemblo-linei. En 1918, duimo de =
la veturi en Usa esis le Model T. Kande produktado cesis en 1927, plu kam 1=
5 milion veturi esis
 fabrikita.

1917. En Par=
is, la piktisto Edgar Degas mortis. Naskinte en Paris en 1834, il havis int=
ereso en arto dum yuneso. Il renkontris la piktisto Ingres en 1855, ed en t=
a yaro il komencis studiar ye la =C9cole des Beaux-Arts. De 1856 til 1859 i=
l rezidis en Italia, e kopiis verki de la renesanco. Ye retroveno a Paris i=
l produktis historiala pikturi. De 1866 ilua pikturi montris aktuala temi; =
ca chanjo esis influita da la piktisto =C9douard Manet. Dum plura yari de 1=
874 il produktis ilua maxim famoza pikturi, quin il expozis kun verki da Im=
presionista artisti.

Kordiale DGW


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Kara Hans

James Dewar ne relatas la fondinto di la wiskio-kompanio, segunq=
uante me savas. Multa personi en Skotia havas la nomo Dewar.

Amikale
David=
 


>________________________________
> From: "'jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.n=
l' jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl [idolisto]" 
>To:=
 idolisto@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2014, 14:03
>Subje=
ct: Re: [idolisto] 20 Septembro: tri pasinta eventi di ca dio
> 
>
>
>  
>K=
ara David,
> 
>Ka James Dewar relatas la konocata wiskio-marko Dewar? O ka =
nur esas hazardajo, la nomo?
> 
>Saluti amikala,
> 
>Hans Stuifbergen
>
>--=

>La skopo di la stato esas libereso.(B. de Spinoza)
>
>
>
>
>----Origineel=
 Bericht----
>>Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
>>Datum : 20/09/2014 09:22
>>=
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
>>Onderwerp : [idolisto] 20 Septembro: tri p=
asinta eventi di ca dio
>>
>>  
>>Ye ca dio, 20 septembro...
>>
>>
>>1842. =
En Skotia, la fizikisto e kemiisto James Dewar naskis. Il esas konocata pro=
 ilua laboro pri la liquidigo di gasi, ed exploradi ye temperaturi proxim a=
bsoluta zero. Il desegnis e konstruktis mashino qua produktis liquida oxige=
no. Il inventis vakuo-cirkondita kontenilo por konservar liquidigita gasi; =
il ne patentizis ca inventuro, olqua plu tarde divenis generale konocata ko=
m la vakuo-flakono o "Thermos"-flakono.
>>
>>
>>1908. La violinisto Pablo d=
e Sarasate mortis en Biarritz, Francia, evante 64 yari. Naskinte en Pamplon=
a, Hispania, il esis notende habila ye la violino ye frua evo. Il unesmafoy=
e koncertis evante ok yari, en A Coru=C3=B1a. De dek-e-du yari, il studiis =
ye la konservatorio di Paris. Il koncertis unesmafoye en Paris en 1860, e p=
ose pleis en plura kontinenti. Il kompozis plura verki por la violino; bone=
 konocata esas "Zigeunerweisen" di 1878, e "Carmen Fantasy" (utiligante tem=
i de la opero Carmen) di 1883.
>>
>>
>>1966. En Usa, la kosmosondilo Survey=
or 2 lansesis. Ol esis la duesma de la Surveyor-projeto, por demonstrar la =
praktikebleso di dolce atingar la surfaco di la luno. Surveyor 1 atingabis =
la surfaco en junio 1966 e fotografabis la tereno. La projetita misiono di =
Surveyor 2 esis arivar ye altra regiono di la luno e prenar fotografuri. Ta=
men, esis falio di korektigo di la voyo dum la voyajo, e la sondilo kolizio=
nis kun la luno proxim kratero Copernicus, ye rapideso 2,6 km/s, ye 23 sept=
embro.
>>
>>
>>Kordiale DGW
>>
>
>
>
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James D=
ewar ne relatas la fondinto di la wiskio-kompanio, segunquante me savas. Mu=
lta personi en Skotia havas la nomo Dewar.

Amikale
David 

  
 
 
 
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ail.nl' jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl [idolisto]" 
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Kara David,
 
Ka James Dewar relatas la konocata w=
iskio-marko Dewar? O ka nur esas hazardajo, la nomo?
 
=

Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
--
La skopo di la stato esas liberes=
o.(B. de Spinoza)

=

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l Bericht----
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nti di ca dio














 

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Ye ca dio, 20 septembro...

1842. En Skotia, la fizikisto e kemiisto James Dewar naski=
s. Il esas konocata pro ilua laboro pri la liquidigo di gasi, ed exploradi =
ye temperaturi proxim absoluta zero. Il desegnis e konstruktis mashino qua =
produktis liquida oxigeno. Il inventis vakuo-cirkondita kontenilo por konse=
rvar liquidigita gasi; il ne patentizis ca inventuro, olqua plu tarde diven=
is generale konocata kom la vakuo-flakono o "Thermos"-flakono.
=


1908. La violinisto =
Pablo de
 Sarasate mortis en Biarritz, Francia, evante
 64 yari. Naskinte e=
n Pamplona, Hispania, il esis notende habila ye la violino ye frua evo. Il =
unesmafoye koncertis evante ok yari, en A Coru=C3=B1a. De dek-e-du yari, il=
 studiis ye la konservatorio di Paris. Il koncertis unesmafoye en Paris en =
1860, e pose pleis en plura kontinenti. Il kompozis plura verki por la viol=
ino; bone konocata esas "Zigeunerweisen" di 1878, e "Carmen Fantasy" (utili=
gante temi de la opero Carmen) di 1883.

1966. En Usa, la kosmosondilo Surveyor 2 la=
nsesis. Ol esis la duesma de la Surveyor-projeto, por
 demonstrar la prakti=
kebleso di dolce atingar la surfaco di la luno.
 Surveyor 1 atingabis la su=
rfaco en junio 1966 e fotografabis la tereno. La projetita misiono di Surve=
yor 2 esis arivar ye altra regiono di la luno e prenar fotografuri. Tamen, =
esis falio di korektigo di la voyo dum la voyajo, e la sondilo kolizionis k=
un la luno proxim kratero Copernicus, ye rapideso 2,6 km/s, ye 23 septembro=
.

Kordiale DGW


    

     

    











    

     

    
    






 
 
 
   

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Kara samideani,

me publikigis la nova numero di "La Plumo Idala":

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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (48) 
  
  
  
 
 E tale, senhaste ma senpauze, me *adeis omna apostoli, inkluzite Matias, qua sempre esabis ibe, ma qua sucesabis enirar la “Direktanta Komitato” nur pos la desaparo di Judas Iskariot, kande Matias elektesis por kompletigar la dozeno. Aparta kazo esis, ankor-foye, olta di Tomas, ilqua, ultre montrar sua intereso voyajar aden India, deziris vizitar anke Hispania, e havis la “brilanta ideo” propozar a me, ke Jakobo, il e me povus irar ensemble ad-ibe: 
 
  
 --Ho, yes, kara Partakael! Jakobo e me ipsa volunte profitus tua nuna retroveno aden Hispania por akompanar tu ad-ibe. 
 
 --Ho, Tomas! Ka tu ne ja komprenabas lo? Me venis de tre fora futuro, e me nun retrovenos ad ol. Me ne voyajos al nuna Hispania, ma ad olta dil futuro, ad-ube nulu povas akompanar me. Me regretas lo.  
 
 --Ka tu insistas durigar tua fantaziaji? --klamis Tomas--. Me ya kredas, ke tu venis de Hispania, e ke tu retrovenos ad ol, ma me nule kredas, ke tu voyajis de tempo futura aden olta pasinta, nam la futuro ne ja arivabas, dum ke l’ pasinto ja pasabas e ne plus existas. Nur la prezenta tempo existas. 
 
 --Ka tu ipsa ne spektis la Maestro elevar su ed irar adsupre vers la Cielo? Pro quo do tu ne kredas, ke me povas irar adavane e retroe en la tempo? Quon plusa tu bezonas vidor por kreder? --me dicis. 
 
 --Me kredas la Maestro pro ke il demonstris a ni esar ne nura homo, ma anke Deo ipsa; tamen, tu esas quale ni omna: nura homo. Tu ne esas Deo, ka yes? --Tomas audacis. 
 
 --Konsentite, Tomas! Quankam me povus dicar a tu, ke ni omna esas Deo, pro ke ni omna esas parto di Deo, me konsentas, ke me ipsa ne esas Deo. Me esas Partakael, e me volunte invitus tu spekter mea propra desaparo del prezento, se ne esus pro ke me timas faliar, kaze ke me probus agar koram ulu. Me saltabas ad-dope en la tempo nur un-foye, e me ne ja experiencabas retrovenar en mea epoko. Ico esas mea unesma voyajo en la tempo. 
 
 --Me sincere simpatias ed estimas tu, Partakael, ma tu esas nura rakontisto advere fantazioza --Tomas adjuntis. 
 
 --Oke, Tomas! Nun, me acensos sole la Monto dil Olivieri, e vi ne plus vidos me, nam me retrovoyajos aden mea fora futura tempo. Se vi deziras lo, vi ya povos facile surveyar omna voyi e voyeti dil monto. Me ne plus decensos la Monto dil Olivieri. Paco che vi omna, estimati! *Adeo!    
  
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(Sir) Hubert (von) Herkomer naskis en 1849 en Bavaria, e mortis en 1914 en =
Anglia. Il recevis tituli Germana ("von") e Britaniana ("Sir"), ma ilua tom=
bo portas nur la nomo Hubert Herkomer. Il habitis precipue Britania, ma oft=
e vizitis Bavaria.

Herkomer esis brilanta piktisto, grabisto ed emaliizist=
o, qua piktis famozi qui inkluzis Rejino Victoria, Edward Elgar e Richard W=
agner. Il piktis anke povri e peizaji. Ilua pikturi impresis e semble influ=
is Vincent van Gogh. Il fundis e direktis skolo di arto en Anglia, ed esis =
profesoro ye la universitato di Oxford.

En Landaberg en Bavaria esas du gr=
anda pikturi quan il facis e donacis al urbo. En Landsberg am Lech esas muz=
eo pri Herkomer.

Il skribis teatraji. Il pleis piano e citaro. Il kompozis=
 muziko. Olim famoza Germana muzikisto invitesis da lu ad Anglia e plurfoye=
 duktis orkestro pleanta muziko da Herkomer.

Herkomer esis pioniro di cine=
matografo. Regretinde nula filmo da lu esas nun trovebla. Il dizignis bela =
turmo, kun chambri, qua stacas ankore en Bavaria. Ol nomesas "matro-turmo" =
nam ol konstruktesis ye memoro di lua matro.

Il perceptis la utileso di au=
tomobili e kontributis al fondo (ye cirkume 1907) di konkurso en Germania, =
kun granda premio. Ol duras ankore ma por anciena automobili (konstruktita =
ante 1930).

Recente facesis, da firmo en Bavaria, filmo di cirkume 90 minu=
ti pri Herkomer. La parolado esas parte en la Germana e parte en la Angla, =
kun subtituli apta en singla versiono.

Kad irga lektanto en Germania savas=
 pri Hubert Herkomer, ta homo di multa granda talenti?

Robert C.


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Kara samideani,

me prizentas a vi hike la quaresma grupo de vorti propozita:

*komputer.o [Inf.] Elektronikal aparato qua traktas datumi ed exekutas plura taski segun instrucioni o programizo [A computer | F ordinateur | G Computer | H ordenador, computadora | I computer | R компьютер | E komputilo].

*komunitat.o. 1. Grupo de personi vivanta kune e/o unionita da komuna interesti, valori, bezoni, religio, nacionaleso e.c. 2. (Biol.) Grupo de organismi qui vivas ed interagas en la sama cirkumajo [A community | F communauté | G Gemeinschaft | H comunidad | I comunità | R сообщество].

*lift.o. Aparato qua movas personi o kargaji inter etaji di edifico [A lift, (US) elevator | F ascenseur | G Aufzug, Lift | H ascensor | I ascensore | R лифт | E lifto]. *liftisto. Persono di qua la tasko esas manovrar *lifto [A lift operator, lift boy, (US) elevator boy | F liftier | G Liftjunge | HI ascensorista | R лифтёр | E liftisto]. _ (~o) ROZE (p. 88), PESCH, RYLANDER (p. 62), STUIFBERGEN (Progreso 338, p. 8).

*logotip.o. Desegnuro o skriburo uzata kom simbolo por firmo, societo, edc [AFI logo | F logotype | G Logo | HIE* logotipo | R логотип].

*marsupi.o [Biol.] Abdominala pelo-posho che la femini di grupo de primitiva mamiferi, qua kontenas la mameti e shirmas la yuni dum la unesma kresko-tempo pos lia nasko [A marsupial pouch, AF marsupium | F poche marsupiale | G Marsupium, Beutel | H bolsa marsupial, HIE marsupio | R сумка]. marsupialo. Singla del primitiva mamiferi del *ordono Marsupialia (exemple kangurui e koali), qui habitas Australia e Sud-Amerika e di qui la femini havas *marsupio [AFH marsupial | G Beuteltier | I marsupiale | R сумчатое | E marsupiulo]. REM. MARSUPIAL- cesez existar kom aparta radiko.

*maskot.o. Persono, objekto o (plu ofte) bestio uzata kom simbolo od emblemo di grupo de personi, institucuro, evento, edc [A mascot | FI mascotte | G Maskottchen, Maskotte | H mascota | R маскот | E *maskoto].

*maus.o [Inf.] Aparato elektronikala kapabla sendar impulsi a *komputero talmaniere ke a movo di olu korespondas altra movo analoga di indikatoro flechoforma sur la skreno, nomata "apuntilo" [A mouse | F souris | G Maus | H mouse | I mouse | R компьютерная мышь].

*misil.o. [Mil.] Exploziva projektilo su-propulsanta e direktebla [AFI missile | G Rakete, Flugkörper | H misil | R реактивный снаряд; ракета | E misilo]. _ RYLANDER (p. 62).

*motel.o. Hotelo por automobileri [A motel | F motel | G Motel | H motel | I motel, autostello | R мотель].

*movement.o. Ensemblo de agi ed esforci koordinata da grupo de personi qui volas atingar skopo partikulara, precipue en domeno social, kultural, artal o politikal [A movement | F mouvement | G Bewegung | H movimiento | I movimento | R движение | E movado]. Rem. Vorto sempre plu ofte uzata, vice la tilnuna MOVADO. _ CARLEVARO (Esperantal antologio en Idolinguo, p. 5-11), MOUREAUX (Progreso 277, p. 9), HYSKO (Progreso 290, p. 4, 5), ANTON (Progreso 314, p. 4; 330, p. 31; 341, p. 8, 11; Kuriero internaciona 2006, 2, p. 13, 14; 2007, 1, p. 26, 27), STUIFBERGEN (Arthur Rimbaud, p. 3; Progreso 338, p. 20), NEVES (Progreso 326, p. 17; 339, p. 12-28; Nia justifiko, p. 30, 35, 37, 39; Gardero di trupi, p. 5, 6, 11), CHANDLER (Kuriero internaciona 2006, 2, p. 10), F. KASPER (Progreso 337, p. 17), PONTNAU (Progreso 341, p. 2), A. NEUSSNER (Ido-saluto! 3/2008, p. 15), MOLLER. *MUVMENTO che PESCH (nun apene uzata).

*mustach.o. Labio-barbo [AF moustache, (US) mustache | G Schnurrbart | H bigote, mostacho | I baffi, mustacchi | R усы | E lipharoj, *mustaĉo]. _ DYER (Ido-Angla, p. 382, che TRUSAR), STUIFBERGEN (Arthur Rimbaud, p. 66; Stono di helpo, p. 6, 33; Progreso 330, p. 30), MADONNA  (Bel aventuro).

*nazi.a. Koncernanta la Germana Nacional-Socialista Laborista Partiso (1920-1945). *nazio, *naziisto. Membro di ta partiso [AG Nazi | FHI nazi | I nazista | R нацист | E nazio]. *naziismo. Doktrino ed agado dil *nazia partiso, esence karakterizita da nacionalismo e rasismo [A Nazism, Naziism | F nazisme | G Nazismus | HI nazismo | R нацизм | E naziismo]. _ (~ista) CARLEVARO (Modern Ido-poeti, p. 13), (~o) STUIFBERGEN (Stono di helpo, p. 34).


L'artikli di omna vorti ecepte *maus.o e *motel.o esas da Gonçalo Neves.

Pos un semano me transmisos ica vorti a la Direktanta Komitato por oficaligo.

Kordiale,

Tiberio Madonna
Sekretario por Linguala Questioni dil ULI


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45. Volap=FCk: 119.332
96. Ido: 25.979
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Interlingua: 14.302
191. Novial: 2.700
193. Interlingue: 2.564 
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Ye ca dio, 4 oktobro...

1669. En Amsterdam, la piktisto Rembrandt van Rijn=
 mortis. Il naskis en Leiden en 1606; ye cirkume 1625 il apertis studieyo e=
n la urbo e, pos deskovreso da Nederlandana politikestro Constantijn Huygen=
s, il recevis importanta komisi. De 1631 il rezidis en Amsterdam e ganis su=
ceso kom portretisto. Ilua multa su-portreti esas notenda, la unesma piktit=
a en 1628, la lasta en 1669.

1883. La longa-dista treno-servado la Orient-=
Express komencis. Ol esis establisata da Georges Nagelmackers, qua fondis l=
a "Compagnie internationale des wagon-lits". La originala voyo de Paris a K=
onstantinoplo inkluzis paromo trans la Danubio, ye la frontiero di Romania =
e Bulgaria, e paromo-voyajo de Varna, an la Nigra Maro, a Konstantinoplo. D=
ireta voyo de Paris a Konstantinoplo komencis en 1889.

1959. Luna 3, kosmo=
sondilo di USSR, lansesis; ol esis la unesma sondilo qua fotografis la fora=
 latero di la luno. Ol esis pozata en tre elipsa orbito, tante ke ol povis =
atingar la luno. 29 fotografuri prenesis dum 40 minuti ye 7 oktobro, ye cir=
kume 65.000 km de la surfaco di la fora latero; cirkume 70 procenta de ta l=
atero esis fotografata. La filmo esis revelata, fixigata e sikigata en la s=
ondilo, e la rezultaji esis *skanata e transmisata. 17 de la imaji esis uti=
ligebla.

Kordiale DGW
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Ye ca dio, 4 oktobro...

1669. En Amsterdam, la piktist=
o Rembrandt van Rijn mortis. Il naskis en Leiden en 1606; ye cirkume 1625 i=
l apertis studieyo en la urbo e, pos deskovreso da Nederlandana politikestr=
o Constantijn Huygens, il recevis importanta komisi. De 1631 il rezidis en =
Amsterdam e ganis suceso kom portretisto. Ilua multa su-portreti esas noten=
da, la unesma piktita en
 1628, la lasta en 1669.

1883. L=
a
 longa-dista treno-servado la Orient-Express komencis. Ol esis establisat=
a da Georges Nagelmackers, qua fondis la "Compagnie internationale des=
 wagon-lits". La originala voyo de Paris a Konstantinoplo inkluzis paromo t=
rans la Danubio, ye la frontiero di Romania e Bulgaria, e paromo-voyajo de =
Varna, an la Nigra Maro, a Konstantinoplo. Direta voyo de Paris a Konstanti=
noplo komencis en 1889.

1959. Lu=
na 3, kosmosondilo di USSR, lansesis; ol esis la unesma sondilo qua fotogra=
fis la fora latero di la luno. Ol esis pozata en tre elipsa orbito, tante k=
e ol povis atingar la luno. 29 fotografuri prenesis dum 40 minuti ye 7 okto=
bro, ye cirkume 65.000 km de la surfaco di la fora latero; cirkume 70 proce=
nta de ta latero esis fotografata. La filmo esis revelata, fixigata e sikig=
ata en la sondilo, e la rezultaji esis *skanata e transmisata. 17 de la ima=
ji esis utiligebla.

Kordiale DGW
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EVANGELIO SEGUN PARTAKAEL, da Partaka (49) 
  
  
  
 
 Efektive, me chanjabis mea unesma ideo departor del supra parto dil Orea Pordego dil murego di Jerusalem, pro ke, kande me vidis ed exploris la loko, me ne sentis lo sama kam kande me vizitabis ol, fine dil 20ma yarcento, lor trairar la tota Esplanado dil Moskei ed acensar til la murego-garito. Me do decidabis, pos exploro, chanjar mea departo-punto de proxim la loko, de ube l’ profeto Mohamed voyajus al Cielo, a proxim la loko, de ube Jesu de Nazaret elevesabis, anke vers la Cielo, aproxime 600 yari antee. Fakte, mea timo erorar ed irar koakte aden la Cielo, plu frue kam previdite, nule desaparabis, ma me forte intuicis, ke me mustas serchar nul altra departeyo kam olta dil Monto dil Olivieri. 
 
  
 Dum ke me marchis adsupre, me ne povis evitar questionar me quon me renkontros che me, pos ke me retrovenabos en mea tempo, kaze ke nulo falios e mea salto esos ankor-foye sucesoza... Mea longa absenteso 3-yara, sen irga posibla komuniko kun mea familiani ed amiki, esis advere quaza tombo-petro, quan me sentis sur me, e pri olqua me ne konciabis til ke me vidis proximeskar l’instanto, kande me rivenos aden mea epoko, nome aden la 20ma yarcento... Tamen, jus atingir la tre specal loko, quan me selektabis, olqua permisabis a me videsar da nulu, me subite konjektis ulo, quo igis me quik emoceskar e ne plus suciar pri mea familiani, amiki, laboro, edc. Pro quo me ne konjektabis lo antee, se lo esas tote logikoza? Pro quo sufrar pro absenteso 3-yara, pos ke me sucesabis transirar, permente, preske 2000 yari en la spaco ed en la tempo? Lore, me partranquileskis. 
 
  
 Kande me esis absolute certa, ke nulu sequabis me, me sideskis e komencis preparar me por departar... Me konstatis, ke nula nubo esis super mea kapo; se yes, me ne audacabus mem probar departar, nam, quale skribite, me havis nula hasto irar al Cielo od irg altra stranja loko ne previdita da me... Me respiris maxim profunde, dum ke me probis esar maxim konkreta e detaloza lor pensar pri mea arivo-tempo ed arivo-loko... Quankam mea departo-punto esis tre diferanta de olta di mea vilajo en Valencia, omno quon me experiencis, lor mea retroveno, esis advere tre simila... Me respiris ankor-foye maxim profunde... La bluega cielo. Omno cirkum me. Mea nova kapablesi. Mea kordio. Mea cerebro. ME. Des-ME. LUMO. 
 
  
 Lore, me klozis mea okuli e vartis. Ed expektis. Ed esperis. E subite, me sentis itere ta sorto di “klash-klash” en mea cerebro, e yen ke mea korpo deprenesis, ca-kaze adavane ed adsupre, dum ke me videskis lumoza punteti flava, oranjea, reda e violea, e dum ke me experiencis, ke mea korpala strukturo disfragmenteskis ed omno divenis obskureso. E me ne povas raportar quo eventis pose, pro ke me cesis konciar ed esvanis; od adminime to semblis a me. Ka posiblesas sonjar dum esvanado? Pro quo me sentis, ke, malgre omno, mea voyajo esis advere nule longa, ma kontree, quaze on simple transportabus me til ne tro fora loko, proxim mea departeyo, forsan tra ne-videbla truo, qua duktabus me retroe de altra dimensiono spaco-tempa aden olta nia? Mea vorti repetesas, quale la fenomeno repetesis. 
  
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Kara samideani,

me transmisis la radiki a la Direktanta Komitato.

Kordiale,

Tiberio

---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Kara samideani,
 
 me prizentas a vi hike la quaresma grupo de vorti propozita:
 
 *komputer.o [Inf.] Elektronikal aparato qua traktas datumi ed exekutas plura taski segun instrucioni o programizo [A computer | F ordinateur | G Computer | H ordenador, computadora | I computer | R компьютер | E komputilo].
 
 *komunitat.o. 1. Grupo de personi vivanta kune e/o unionita da komuna interesti, valori, bezoni, religio, nacionaleso e.c. 2. (Biol.) Grupo de organismi qui vivas ed interagas en la sama cirkumajo [A community | F communauté | G Gemeinschaft | H comunidad | I comunità | R сообщество].
 
 *lift.o. Aparato qua movas personi o kargaji inter etaji di edifico [A lift, (US) elevator | F ascenseur | G Aufzug, Lift | H ascensor | I ascensore | R лифт | E lifto]. *liftisto. Persono di qua la tasko esas manovrar *lifto [A lift operator, lift boy, (US) elevator boy | F liftier | G Liftjunge | HI ascensorista | R лифтёр | E liftisto]. _ (~o) ROZE (p. 88), PESCH, RYLANDER (p. 62), STUIFBERGEN (Progreso 338, p. 8).
 
 *logotip.o. Desegnuro o skriburo uzata kom simbolo por firmo, societo, edc [AFI logo | F logotype | G Logo | HIE* logotipo | R логотип].
 
 *marsupi.o [Biol.] Abdominala pelo-posho che la femini di grupo de primitiva mamiferi, qua kontenas la mameti e shirmas la yuni dum la unesma kresko-tempo pos lia nasko [A marsupial pouch, AF marsupium | F poche marsupiale | G Marsupium, Beutel | H bolsa marsupial, HIE marsupio | R сумка]. marsupialo. Singla del primitiva mamiferi del *ordono Marsupialia (exemple kangurui e koali), qui habitas Australia e Sud-Amerika e di qui la femini havas *marsupio [AFH marsupial | G Beuteltier | I marsupiale | R сумчатое | E marsupiulo]. REM. MARSUPIAL- cesez existar kom aparta radiko.
 
 *maskot.o. Persono, objekto o (plu ofte) bestio uzata kom simbolo od emblemo di grupo de personi, institucuro, evento, edc [A mascot | FI mascotte | G Maskottchen, Maskotte | H mascota | R маскот | E *maskoto].
 
 *maus.o [Inf.] Aparato elektronikala kapabla sendar impulsi a *komputero talmaniere ke a movo di olu korespondas altra movo analoga di indikatoro flechoforma sur la skreno, nomata "apuntilo" [A mouse | F souris | G Maus | H mouse | I mouse | R компьютерная мышь].
 
 *misil.o. [Mil.] Exploziva projektilo su-propulsanta e direktebla [AFI missile | G Rakete, Flugkörper | H misil | R реактивный снаряд; ракета | E misilo]. _ RYLANDER (p. 62).
 
 *motel.o. Hotelo por automobileri [A motel | F motel | G Motel | H motel | I motel, autostello | R мотель].
 
 *movement.o. Ensemblo de agi ed esforci koordinata da grupo de personi qui volas atingar skopo partikulara, precipue en domeno social, kultural, artal o politikal [A movement | F mouvement | G Bewegung | H movimiento | I movimento | R движение | E movado]. Rem. Vorto sempre plu ofte uzata, vice la tilnuna MOVADO. _ CARLEVARO (Esperantal antologio en Idolinguo, p. 5-11), MOUREAUX (Progreso 277, p. 9), HYSKO (Progreso 290, p. 4, 5), ANTON (Progreso 314, p. 4; 330, p. 31; 341, p. 8, 11; Kuriero internaciona 2006, 2, p. 13, 14; 2007, 1, p. 26, 27), STUIFBERGEN (Arthur Rimbaud, p. 3; Progreso 338, p. 20), NEVES (Progreso 326, p. 17; 339, p. 12-28; Nia justifiko, p. 30, 35, 37, 39; Gardero di trupi, p. 5, 6, 11), CHANDLER (Kuriero internaciona 2006, 2, p. 10), F. KASPER (Progreso 337, p. 17), PONTNAU (Progreso 341, p. 2), A. NEUSSNER (Ido-saluto! 3/2008, p. 15), MOLLER. *MUVMENTO che PESCH (nun apene uzata).
 
 *mustach.o. Labio-barbo [AF moustache, (US) mustache | G Schnurrbart | H bigote, mostacho | I baffi, mustacchi | R усы | E lipharoj, *mustaĉo]. _ DYER (Ido-Angla, p. 382, che TRUSAR), STUIFBERGEN (Arthur Rimbaud, p. 66; Stono di helpo, p. 6, 33; Progreso 330, p. 30), MADONNA (Bel aventuro).
 
 *nazi.a. Koncernanta la Germana Nacional-Socialista Laborista Partiso (1920-1945). *nazio, *naziisto. Membro di ta partiso [AG Nazi | FHI nazi | I nazista | R нацист | E nazio]. *naziismo. Doktrino ed agado dil *nazia partiso, esence karakterizita da nacionalismo e rasismo [A Nazism, Naziism | F nazisme | G Nazismus | HI nazismo | R нацизм | E naziismo]. _ (~ista) CARLEVARO (Modern Ido-poeti, p. 13), (~o) STUIFBERGEN (Stono di helpo, p. 34).
 
 
 L'artikli di omna vorti ecepte *maus.o e *motel.o esas da Gonçalo Neves.
 
 Pos un semano me transmisos ica vorti a la Direktanta Komitato por oficaligo.
 
 Kordiale,
 
 Tiberio Madonna
 Sekretario por Linguala Questioni dil ULI


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Kara amiki di lingui,

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Reply-To: David Weston 
Subject: Ye ca dio, 11 Oktobro
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Ye ca dio,  11 oktobro...

1634. Ye la bordo di Germania an la Norda Maro, =
la Burchardi-inundo eventis; dum forta sturmo, ondo-reperkutado penetris la=
 marala defensili di Schleswig-Holstein ye multa loki. Cirkume 15.000 homi =
mortis. Pose, plura defensili esis ri-konstruktata, ma multa tereno sub mar=
o-nivelo esis permane perdata. La plu multa de la insulo Strand, ube du-tri=
imi de la habitanti mortis, esis perdata, la mikra insuli Nordstrand e Pell=
worm restante.

1896. En Wien, la kompozisto Anton Bruckner mortis, evante =
72 yari. Ilua precipua verki esas la non simfonii, la unesma simfonio kompo=
zita en 1866, la lasta komencita en 1887 e nekompleta ye lua morto. La simf=
onii havas plura versioni, modifikita da Bruckner ed ilua kolegi; esas kelk=
afoye ne klara qua versiono esas egardenda kom autentika. Bruckner esis hum=
ila homo, quo kontrastas kun la grandeso di la simfonii.

1968. Apollo 7, m=
isiono di la Apollo-projeto por eventuala voyajo a la luno, lansesis. Ol es=
is la unesma Usana misiono portanta homi depos la tragedio di Apollo 1, en =
qua tri homi mortis ye la lanso-loko. Dum terala orbito, la tri membri di A=
pollo 7 sucesoze probis la equipajo; to posibligis la sendigo di Apollo 8 p=
os du monati, qua atingis orbito cirkum la luno. Apollo 7 esis la unesma Us=
ana misiono dum qua TV-sendajo transmisesis de spaco. La membri di la misio=
no retrovenis a Tero ye 22 oktobro. 

Kordiale DGW

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Ye ca dio,  1=
1 oktobro...

1634. Ye la bordo di Germania an la Norda Maro,
 la Bur=
chardi-inundo eventis; dum forta sturmo, ondo-reperkutado penetris la maral=
a defensili di Schleswig-Holstein ye multa loki. Cirkume 15.000 homi mortis=
. Pose, plura defensili esis ri-konstruktata, ma multa tereno sub maro-nive=
lo esis permane perdata. La plu multa de la insulo Strand, ube du-triimi de=
 la habitanti mortis, esis
 perdata, la mikra insuli Nordstrand e Pellworm =
restante.

1896. En Wien, la kompozisto Anton Bruckner
 mortis, evant=
e 72 yari. Ilua precipua verki esas la non simfonii, la unesma simfonio kom=
pozita en 1866, la lasta komencita en 1887 e nekompleta ye lua morto. La si=
mfonii havas plura versioni, modifikita da Bruckner ed ilua kolegi; esas ke=
lkafoye ne klara qua versiono esas egardenda kom autentika. Bruckner esis h=
umila homo, quo kontrastas kun la grandeso di la simfonii.

1968. Apollo 7, misiono di=
 la Apollo-projeto por eventuala voyajo a la luno, lansesis. Ol esis la une=
sma Usana misiono portanta homi depos la tragedio di Apollo 1, en qua tri h=
omi mortis ye la lanso-loko. Dum terala orbito, la tri membri di
 Apollo 7 =
sucesoze probis la equipajo; to posibligis la sendigo di Apollo 8 pos du mo=
nati, qua atingis orbito cirkum la luno. Apollo 7 esis la unesma Usana misi=
ono dum qua TV-sendajo transmisesis de spaco. La membri di la misiono retro=
venis a Tero ye 22 oktobro. 

=

Kordiale DGW


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